1. The Perdana Global Peace Organiation‘s team of five which drove an ambulance and three trucks across Europe to Gaza returned yesterday. It was a truly Malaysian team with a Chinese Malaysian, an Indian Malaysian and three Malays. They went through some tough times, having to sleep in the open in cold winter weather, no facilities for washing or bathing, no toilets.
2. With them went a Bernama team of four made up of three girl reporters and a cameraman. They too went through harrowing experiences. The journey from United Kingdom to Gaza took a month. The convoy carrying food medicine and construction materials was made up of more than 200 vehicles with nationals from seventeen countries driving.
3. I cannot describe their journey adequately. Perhaps they should give talks where they would be more free to give a full account.
5. And here is something that we all do not know. We think that the Israelis had stopped attacking Gaza one year ago. But no. The team tells of the daily bombings which are still going on.
6. The targets are the civilian installations – the university, the hospitals, the administrative buildings. The precision with which the attacks are made leaves no doubt as to the intention of the Israelis. Yet the Gazans cleaned up the rubble very quickly. They try to ensure good sanitation also. They are determined to live a normal life.
7. There is an illegal Israeli blockade of Gaza. Very little is allowed to go through as most things are regarded as having double usage i.e. can be made into bombs etc.
8. The promised support by the various Governments is not forthcoming. Whatever have been sent have to be stored for checking in Egypt to ensure they are harmless. Of course most countries have sent nothing.
9. The Israelis do not approve helping the Gazans. You run the risk of being labeled anti-Semitic if you do or if you reveal the things that the Israelis have done and are doing. One example is the locking up of a whole family in their house. When a child went out to fetch water, he was shot. Another child escaped but when she returned she found the family brutally murdered, including a baby in her mother’s arms.
10. This is what is happening in Gaza today. They world doesn’t want to know about it. The fate of a Chinese dissident who is arrested is of far greater concern, worthy of worldwide coverage. But the sufferings of the million people in Gaza, their homes destroyed, living in tents in the cold winter, being bombed daily – these are normal, deserving of no sympathy or attention.
Assalamualaikum Tun. Could war like Israel and Palestin can happen to us. Or in other meaning we palestin and singapore will be israel. For me it is posibble. but for me we don’t have to be afraid because anything that mean to happen will happen we just have “redha”.Sorry if it’s not related to this article or seem childish. I just want be sincere.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
SEmoga di izinkan Tun..
[[By wajaperak on January 28, 2010 8:51 AM
[[Allah only order us to go to war when the propargation of the kalimah Laillahaillallah Muhammadarrasuluullah are stopped.]]
Sorry sir..
I just would like to know which sura or verse that says those words above ie. Allah only order us to go to war……………stopped.]]
Alahai budak oi..Bila pulak aku cakap camni?
For your information..This was said by mthago aka Dr Nasoha..I qouted them in protest..
Oi budak..do you homework before asking other’s to do their’s..
From me your elderly..
Terima kasih Tun..
Salam Dr. Mahathir..
Lama saya tak masuk blog ini sebab saya sedang mempelajari Al Quran..maklum lah i’m just a 16yr old student.
By wajaperak on January 28, 2010 8:51 AM
[[Allah only order us to go to war when the propargation of the kalimah Laillahaillallah Muhammadarrasuluullah are stopped.]]
Sorry sir..
I just would like to know which sura or verse that says those words above ie. Allah only order us to go to war……………stopped.
Btw to all bloggers here :
As far as i know, no matter how or what we try to do to save Gaza or any other war zone country, we will never win without the help of the one and only God the Almighty,the Greatest,the Biggest, the Initiator of the Heavens and the Earth, the Decider, the best Ruler,the most Powerful Destroyer,the Saviour,the best Judge, the one who need no weapons the one who never eat nor sleep,who is awake every second,the one who will never ever die..He will live forever.Allahu Akhbar
Forgive me all who are reading this.
I need to tell everyone of you,whoever you are,wherever you are, whatever power you have,whatever rank you hold,you and me…we are all going to Hell,unless we start reading the only words of the Creator, The Quran….He [God] is the one who create us,He {God} is the one who decide our fate, what we do and where we go.
From Him we came and to Him we shall be returned.
Remember this Brothers and Sisters…No one can protect you or save you if He has confirmed you to Hell. No Prophet [Nabi] nor any Messenger [Rasool],no Adam no Ibrahim no Musa no Noh no Jesus no Muhammad no Rashad {PBUT}. Not one soul can save you. Only Him The Great One can save us all if He so will.God Willing [Insya Allah] may God forgive us all.
Praise be to God.
Terima Kasih
Dr Mahathir
Dear Hanan..
Many muslim particularly malay confused with the issue.
Those Gaza Convoy were blocked by Egypt not Israel but media here made it look like it was by israel.So it was really deceptive.
Dont worry Hanan..more and more muslim here getting to understand Arab Israeli conflict better.The conflict becomes worst becoz those arabs (only those in conflict with israel,not all arabs are )are simply arrogant and deliberately mixing arab nationalism and religion to rally a point for palestine.
Rysa.
Malay and Muslim.
Dearest Tun Mahathir,
One wise old Malay man in Langkawi once told me :-
Muslim wear the Ihram during the Haj pilgrimage, beneath all is naked.God Almighty wants us to see the colours of the skin, beneath it all we are all human, His beloved creations. We are all the same.
God Almighty gave us 4 precious things :-
Brain
To be able to understand , to learn and applies the learnings,to know what is right or wrong, aka the Logic;
Heart
To be righteous, to have compensation for fellow human and all other God’s creation, aka Humanity (as guardian) ;
Immortality
to pass on our genes to the next generation, and so on, to learn from our sins, mistakes, wrong doings, gradually to make the world a better place to live, aka the Quest for truth ;
Dead
to finally understand we are all His creation and that we all all equal. No matter how rich, poor, handsome, beatiful, ugly we have to die and let the cycle begin all over through our generations, aka We are all God Almighty’s children.
Sadly, we never learned from the past. We still live in a cruel and pathetic world…
Thank You for making me see a better different world.
Adam Langkawi
Dengan izin Tun,
Hanan
Sigh. That story was picked up by the Jerusalem Post based on an allegation by the “Rev Majed al-Shafie”.
Who is Majed al-Shafie?
He’s a Christian from Egypt, who came to Canada in 2002 seeking asylum. He made a refugee claim, alleging he was persecuted in his home country, for promoting Christianity in his bookstore.
The Immigration and Refugee Board didn’t believe he was telling the truth. Neither did the federal court. In September, after he exhausted all appeals, Canada deported him back to Egypt — a country where Christians make up 10 per cent of the predominantly Muslim population.
Tell us something about Israeli “kindness” Hanan, like this Israeli satire on Haiti
You said, Isn’t it the real face of terror?…
No it’s not, but this one is:
Settler Rabbi publishes The complete guide to killing non-Jews
Have you checked out Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira’s book? It must have useful advice for (Jewish) Israelis:
“The book includes another conclusion that explains when a non-Jew may be killed even if he is not an enemy of the Jews.
Tun,
Is it possible to provide the Gazans with ballistic missiles? I think let both sides wipeout one another once and for all.
Azlan
KL
Assalamualaikum,
The dark side of the moon, oops, the dark side of Gaza, the people and Hamas which you support. Is it different from burning churches in Malaysia?
The life of Christians in Gaza.
http://www.sodahead.com/fun/hamas-claims-christian-burials-in-gaza-pollute-earth/blog-214211/
Where are you dear Tun? Don’t you have to say a word? Maybe your fans have something to advocate the Hamas?
I can understand their hatred to Jews, but to Christians? How come?
Isn’t it the real face of terror? Isn’t it a part of Islam? Isn’t it the commandment of the holy quran to cast terror in their (Jews, Christians and pagans) hearts?
Wassalam,
Hanan, Jewish,
Israel.
http://friendship-prior-peace.blogspot.com/
Yes, Tun and everybody,
Blockade on Gaza.
From ynetnews:
Herzog: Israel should consider easing Gaza blockade if Shalit is released
Published: 01.28.10, 12:07 / Israel News
Welfare and Social Services Minister Isaac Herzog said that in his opinion Israel “should consider relief measures in the Gaza blockade should Gilad Shalit be released and in case the aid won’t serve Hamas’s terror.”
From Amnesty International:
Israel’s Gaza blockade continues to suffocate daily life
18 January 2010
Israel must end its suffocating blockade of the Gaza Strip, which leaves more than 1.4 million Palestinians cut off from the outside world and struggling with desperate poverty, Amnesty International said one year on from the end of Israel
Assalamualaikum,
Blockade on Gaza?
http://friendship-prior-peace.blogspot.com/2010/01/tip-israel-continues-to-provide-aid-to.html
Wassalam,
Hanan, Jewish,
Israel.
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hi waba rokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..
Salam [[mthago@Dr Nasoha Saabin]]
[[We can go to war when it is the order of Allah and to please Allah]]
This is utmost subjective statement of all.Saiditina Aisyah r.a bring’s out her follower to seek Ali explanation of Usman r.a shed blood.Muawiyah in this sense see the opportunity to claimed that since Ali did not heed Aisyah r.a. request, it is he ( Muawiyah ) that deserves to succeed Usman r.a. instead of Ali r.a So..in the name of Allah,Muslim blood were shed..It goes to show that since immemorial time, the definition of “going to war in Allah order and to please Allah is very much subjective.
[[Allah only order us to go to war when the propargation of the kalimah Laillahaillallah Muhammadarrasuluullah are stopped.]]
With all due respect Dr..It is not true.Muslim are allowed to defend their properties and life in act of self defence.This act of self defence is very much a broad subject.The broadness and depthness of this subject can be traced back to Islamic history.I need not be elaborate about it.The point is, we understand the magnitude of written decree only when we practiced it.In this practice war is not an option when the propargation of Tayibbah kalimah are stopped.This is debunked myth that Islam was spread by sword.It never was and never will be.Islam is spread by the only mean of dakwah.See history again.Muslim have to use arm and resort to war when they were oppresed or the ‘act of self defence’ warranted them.Not the other way around..
[[As a muslim, our work is to deliver the great kalimah to all non-Muslims in the whole world and when the rulers of any non-Muslims country stop us from delivering this great kalimah to their peoples then Allah ordered us to wage war against those rulers and their armies.]]
Again.Not true.Any Muslim clerics of esteemed act and faith will verify this.
[[Are the war against Israel for this purpose or for getting a lands.]]
Ditto.Not true.The war against Israel is about the Al Aqsa Mosque.The main and only principal.The Israelis tries to destroy the third holy Muslim shrine.This must be stopped at all cost.Other related issues are mitigating circumstances.
[[Allah give no values to lands.Allah gives values only to the orders of Allah.Even the whole world is our country it has no values to Allah.The war against Israel in my opinion is not jihad]]
The war gainst Israel is Jihad.Free Al Aqsa Mosque like Salahuddin Al Ayubi did..Muslim all the world over will starts negotiation with Israel and will concede grounds..But this is impossibe under the present smokescreen..
Terima kasih Tun..
>>
Dear brother wajaperak,
We can go to war when it is the order of Allah and to please Allah.Allah only order us to go to war when the propargation of the kalimah Laillahaillallah Muhammadarrasuluullah are stopped.As a muslim, our work is to deliver the great kalimah to all non-Muslims in the whole world and when the rulers of any non-Muslims country stop us from delivering this great kalimah to their peoples then Allah ordered us to wage war against those rulers and their armies.Are the war against Israel for this purpose or for getting a lands.Allah give no values to lands.Allah gives values only to the orders of Allah.Even the whole world is our country it has no values to Allah.The war against Israel in my opinion is not jihad.
Please also read my articles about wat in
[ see in ] http://mthago.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/is-war-a-crime/
Thank You
Dr Nasoha Saabin
Dear YAB Tun, salam mesra harap sihat sejahtera. Kiriman menyahut seruan seorang pengulas di sini dgn izin….
Menjawab sdr ‘suratkhabarlama’ on January 21, 2010 7:23 PM
………NEW DEAL
Majority will rule. Meritocracy not monopoly will prevail. Affirmative action for rural areas. Subsidy for urban poor. Education for all.
The issue is not helping deserving Malays (or any race) or uplifting their living standards which is basic duty of any govt. The issue is how some people become instant millionaires, cash couriers, own boats and villas, build palaces and mansions, go on multiple umrahs, get new young wives by howling DEB rights.
Nobody is jealous of their mansions and wives, but it is shameful and unconscionable to get rich using a policy intended for the many poor you justify to continue abusing the policy.
………SOCIAL CONTRACT
It is part of the ‘social contract’ for rakyat to criticize and oppose any govt that fails to uplift their living standard. Why else we entrust them with the nation’s wealth.
……….1M’SIA
M’sia is a blessed country. True, we should move as one M’sian race (without erasing our identity) as Thailand (65mil) Indon (230mil) Vietnam (85mil) Phillippines (93mil) Myanmar (50mil) are doing. These bigger neighbours will overwhelm us, not our fellow citizens.
We continue to squabble and distrust each other, we will be the Myanmar of today in 50 yrs!
Israel is not like most countries in that it was constitutionally put together as a European colonist venture AFTER WW II. Most of us have been taught how, at least in part, WW II was fought to end such colonial landgrabs. However, Israel is a country founded by European Jews and still run by descendants of this elite. Moreover, Ashkenazic Jews from Europe made up the vast majority of Jews worldwide prior to the Holocaust and they and their descendents still make up the majority worldwide, although assimilation of them in North America diminishes them as a culturally distinct group (or set of groups, there being very large differences across German-speaking Jews, and E. Yiddish speakers in Poland, Ukraine, Russia, etc.).
If Pres. Obama really wanted to break from America’s awful past record regarding its unqualified support of Israel and its oppression of Palestinians (Muslims but also Christians), he would push for a viable two-state solution, which means the Palestinians must be given back enough of their land and infrastructure to have a viable country. Or he would impose economic sanctions and cut off aid until they relented to this or a one-state solution that constitutionally protects the rights of all inhabitants of Palestine. I favor the abolition of an exclusive Jewish/secular Zionist state and a one-state solution with democratic rights for all. But the zealots of Zion are so in love with their national security state abomination, that there is very little chance. By its very nature, Zionism can not be reformed.
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hi wabarokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..
[[Zulkiflee Bin Arip]]
Syukur ke hadirat Illahi..moga-moga Allah Subhanaullah Ta’ala memberi limpah kurnia juga kepada anda dan pengulas-pengulas yg berpenat lelah menangkis propaganda-propaganda kaum perosak yg tamak yg hendak merompak belahan bumi milik Allah ini
[[dulu saya selalu berdoa meminta agar pemimpin-pemimpin kita diberi kewarasan yg sealiran dgn anda sekelian.tapi nampak nya,yg itu..itu juga]]
Saudara Zulkiflee..selagi umat Islam terkena penyakit utama itu iaitu cinta dunia dan takut mati maka selagi itulah kita akan terus terkena templak dari Allah sendiri..Penghinaan Allah yang paling dahsyat ialah tidak di perdulikan nasib mereka oleh Allah sendiri..Jika kita mengkaji sifat Allah yang 20 itu maka hakikat inilah yang amat di takuti oleh para mukmin sehingga hal ini di sebut oleh Rasullulah s.a.w sendiri dalam doa Baginda s.a.w yang mulia..
apabila berlumuran darah di baling batu oleh penduduk Taif..
Ya Allah..kepada siapa engkau serahkan daku? Adakah kepada hambamu itu?..Walau apapun hambaMu redha di atas ketentuan Mu..
Rasullulah sendiri merasa sedih dan takut jika Allah tidak memperhatikan perjuangan Baginda s.a.w sedangkan amanah ini di serahkan secara langsung oleh Allah..Malaikat Jibril yang mendengarnya turut berasa sedih..lalu berkata..Cukuplah wahai Muhammad..Allah mendengar doa dan rintihan anda..Di sini ada malaikat yang siap sedia untuk mendengar perintah anda..Cakap apa nak kita balaskan penduduk Taif ini..Nak kita langgarkan dua gunung ini supaya mereka tersepit di antara keduanya atau kita terbalikkan sahaja bumi ini atas ke bawah?
Jangan wahai Jibril..jika mereka menolak seruan ku..tidak mengapalah..Moga-moga anak cucu mereka mahu menerima ajaran ku..
Maka benar dan tepat sekali harapan Rasullulah s.a.w..Akhirnya berduyun-duyunlah anak cucu penduduk Taif itu yang memeluk agama Islam!!..
Pengajarannya ialah :..Kita sendiri janganlah berlaku angkuh dan sombong kepada oarng-orang yang menentang Allah dan Rasul..mungkin mereka tinggal sejengkal lagi nak masuk neraka tetapi dengan Rahmat Allah di selamatkannya..Dan kita juga mungkin tinggal sejengkal sahaja lagi untuk masuk syurga tetapi dengan ketentuan Allah binasalah kita dan masuk neraka..
Tepatlah Firman Allah :Tiada yang berasa aman dari azab Allah melainkan orang yang aniya..
[[sedang negara menjadi kecoh oleh isu demi isu yg di-escalate-kan secara tersusun,pemimpin-pemimpin kita terus lena di buai mimpi damai 1malaysia.cuma ada bunyi ancaman tapi langsung tiada tindakkan.ini amat membimbangkan]]
Syabas..anda prihatin..
[[lima atau sepuluh tahun dulu,orang-orang asing tahu dgn pasti bahwa seluruh nusantara adalah milik melayu.tapi hari ini mereka beriya-iya benar hendak menipu akal mereka sendiri dgn mengatakan bahwa orang melayu datang dari Indonesia,seolah-olah ada hasutan golongan politik yg hendak melegitimasi-kan keberadaan mereka di rantau kita.baik di Malaysia atau Indonesia atau seluruh nusantara,argument mereka hanya menuju kesatu arah iaitu…mereka adalah Columbus dan Nusantara adalah Dunia Baru dan mereka berhak meng-komersialkan nya tanpa halangan.Islam,Raja-raja dan DEB adalah halangan yg harus dirobohkan dgn cermat.sebab itu sedikit demi sedikit mereka cuba menghakis kedudukkan kita melalui berbagai arah,bertopengkan berbagai isu]]
Kita tangani masalah ini satu persatu..
[[wajaperak,anda seorang yg berpendidikkan tinggi yg tentu nya pula berkedudukkan baik.saya harap anda adalah orang Umno dan boleh membantu membetulkan apa yg tak betul,dari dalam.terimakasih]]
Malang sungguh..UMNO adalah umarak iaitu pemerintah..Sejak zaman Muawiyah umarak bukanlah ulamak..Islam berjaya di puncaknya kerana ulamak di hormati oleh umarak.Ini berlaku kerana umarak mahu atau percaya kepada sokongan ulamak.Tanpa sokongan ulamak,maka binasalah kerajaan itu..
Jika UMNO hendak selamat,mereka perlu hormat kepada ulamak ( Bukan Nik Abd Aziz dan rakan sejawatan beliau )..
Salahuddin Al Ayubi adalah contoh ulamak dan umarak.Mengamalkan ajaran Islam tulin baru mampu menghadapi apa jua masalah dunia..Mereka di berkati di dunia dan akhirat..
Saya ulangi pesanan ini..Jika UMNO hendak selamat..
Hormati dan beri penghargaan yang sebenarnya kepada ulamak tulin di kalangan masyarakat..
Terima kasih Tun..
Assalamu’alaikum Tun,
izinkan mengulas wajaperak…moga-moga Allah Subhanaullah Ta’ala memberi limpah kurnia kpd anda dan pengulas-pengulas yg berpenat lelah menangkis propaganda-propaganda kaum perosak yg tamak yg hendak merompak belahan bumi milik kita ini.dulu saya selalu berdoa meminta agar pemimpin-pemimpin kita diberi kewarasan yg sealiran dgn anda sekelian.tapi nampak nya,yg itu..itu juga.
sedang negara menjadi kecoh oleh isu demi isu yg di-escalate-kan secara tersusun,pemimpin-pemimpin kita terus lena di buai mimpi damai 1malaysia.cuma ada bunyi ancaman tapi langsung tiada tindakkan.ini amat membimbangkan.
lima atau sepuluh tahun dulu,orang-orang asing tahu dgn pasti bahwa seluruh nusantara adalah milik melayu.tapi hari ini mereka beriya-iya benar hendak menipu akal mereka sendiri dgn mengatakan bahwa orang melayu datang dari Indonesia,seolah-olah ada hasutan golongan politik yg hendak melegitimasi-kan keberadaan mereka di rantau kita.
baik di Malaysia atau Indonesia atau seluruh nusantara,argument mereka hanya menuju kesatu arah iaitu…mereka adalah Columbus dan Nusantara adalah Dunia Baru dan mereka berhak meng-komersialkan nya tanpa halangan.Islam,Raja-raja dan DEB adalah halangan yg harus dirobohkan dgn cermat.sebab itu sedikit demi sedikit mereka cuba menghakis kedudukkan kita melalui berbagai arah,bertopengkan berbagai isu.
wajaperak,anda seorang yg berpendidikkan tinggi yg tentu nya pula berkedudukkan baik.saya harap anda adalah orang Umno dan boleh membantu membetulkan apa yg tak betul,dari dalam.terimakasih.
terimakasih Tun.
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Izin kan saya berinteraksi dengan S….Tan
Thank you S…Tan for the sensible answer, at least I hope you are not racist and would like to see the poor Malays helped especially those in the rural areas.Please dont blame UMNO and the government who are trying their level best to help everyone including non Malays in the kampongs and villages. Not everyone is an angle , and that is why God also created SATANS I too feel very angry at these poor people ,look at the amount of subsides the government is giving them and yet they sell them to the neighboring countries for a profit.
Please S.. Tan get rid of your hatred for what the Government is trying to do for the Malays and perhaps someday they will be at par with all other Malaysians. We have a big cake here, and let us share equally when the time comes. I love Malaysia and Malaysians of all races, say what you like S…Tan Malaysia is second to none provided everyone must unite and show the world Malaysia BOLEH.
Wasalammualikum YAB Tun maaf kerana mengambil ruang semoga sehat sehat selalu insyallah.
salam Tun…
islam contry also didnt suport Palestin…
what happended?
i thinks most arabic leader are muslim but they are wors n ignore Palestinian people…
One day Allah will send a lesson..
as a long time ago..
shocking story of the antichrist..(DAJAL)
it’s here the whole time…
The Arrival – The Antichrist (DAJAL)
http://madcafee.blogspot.com
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat. Kiriman berupa jawapan pada pengulas sebagai penjelasan lanjut bukan menuduh. Dgn izin…
Menjawab sdr ‘hamairudin’ on January 18, 2010 11:59 AM. Terima kasih krn perhatian sdr.
………..CONTROL OF ECONOMY
Tentang siapa bolot ekonomi baca kandungan kiriman yg tercatat dibawah. Ukur dari segi pegangan aliran wang bukan jumlah rumah kedai di bandar! Ukur pegangan hasil negara bukan saja rumah di bandar.
Pendapatan negara dari minyak dan gas(Petronas), perladangan (Felda Sime Darby), balak (krjn negeri) dan elektronik. Hanya elektronik ditangan swasta (tapi milik pelabur asing). Mana milik minoriti?
Belanjawan negara 200bil setahun. Siapa pegang wang ini? Separuh untuk kakitangan awam. Siapa 95% perkhidmatan awam? Nak tahu kenapa Melayu tak ada dalam perniagaan? Mrk rela bersenang pegang jawatan dalam berjuta jawatan dlm perniagaan berikut….
Baca di M’sian Maverick December 30, 2009 1:07 AM December 28, 2009 1:57 AM, ‘Umno December 3, 2009 12:47 AM’, ‘DEB Sep 6 12.40pm’ and ‘Kaki Dalam Kasut 23 Jul 1.37am dan July 22, 2009 1:22 AM.
…………MEMBOLOT
The other races did not ask to dominate the govt. either to rule or administer. No minority in the world has such rights. Minorities here accept majority rule, just be fair. It is part of BTN (Umno?) teaching to demonise people with such accusations.
Menajawab sdr ‘suratkhabarlama’ on January 17, 2010 11:34 PM. Terima kasih di atas perhatian sdr.
………..SALAH HINGGAP
If you are part of the still many deserving Malays who need assistance, I never proposed affirmative action be withdrawn for you. I am against the policy being abused by the greedy and corrupt masquerading as Malay defenders.
Is it really backward Malays getting assistance? Many turn a blind eye to this deviation as collateral risks. But it is becoming the principal risk and poor Malays become collateral beneficiaries only.
The policy in its current form or current hands has been massively abused. How else Umno got rotten to the core? Either we change the operator, or we change the system.
…………BANDING BUKAN SAMA
Israel tak mungkin sama dgn M’sia. Saya cuma bayangkan bandingan alasan yg pihak penganjur sekatan kedua negara ini beri menghalalkan pendirian mrk. Kalau tak setuju alasan Israel, jgn sendiri pula pakai di M’sia!
…………NEW PLACES OF WORSHIP
I salute the Muslims of Kampung Baru and Kelana Jaya (which you mentioned) who did not protest the building of those places of worship. May they be blessed.
Read carefully, I didn
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hi wabarokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..Terima kasih..
Prof_Ridcully..
As far as I know there is two “official” way to gain and attain knowledge..
1.Through the official line like in Medicine,they believe there is no definite origin of human mentality disorder namely craziness,maniac,lunatic,psycho and other’s..etc..etc..
2.But in Islam we have been told succintly that all those affliction’s came from anger.So..mental disorder is the result of not being able to control one anger in the original situation.When rage took over, human have lost the inner sense of peace.Like hypertension caused by the tension in blood circulations,anger is the underlying cause of mental disorders..
So..in this regards..I have high regards of intellectual people like Prof_R who will go all the way in research to find knowledege especially the Islamic one.And the best part, you have the ‘proper’ proof of documentation aspect not to be ridiculed by other intellectual..Foolprof aspect of your knowledge.Hanan and co are not withstanding.
Hence my knowledge in all thing’s can be considered ‘not foolproofed’ and not beyond reproach by Hanan and co..
Consequently,Snouck Hurgronje is the Architect of Acheh strong muslim disintegration like what Lawrence did to the Palestinian..indirectly..
In this case..I can be doubted and stand to be corrected.But I have my own source saying it is him who cleverly and insidiously broke through Acheh rank and file strong muslim constituition..
I was trained soldier’s..so we dont give away secret and information.I alway’s keep the best for the enemy on the field..
I was truly hoping Prof_Ridcully can do this research for muslim well being.It is good to learns from history.
I am a simple man in this sense.All material resources are beyond me..This is one instance I hope Prof_R can take the trouble for muslim in Malaysia to learns what happened when you allows
sacrilege act
like allowing Allah name to be abused..
Pray heeds..I know but can be rebutted..But Prof_R in his capacity as an intelectual can do more where I cannot..
Please consider my request Prof..and Tun too..May Allah helps us all through this turbulent times..
*Ps..Saudara Zulkiflee Arif..anda memang bagus juga..malangnya kita mesti tabah dan jangan biarkan minda kita di permainkan musuh.Mereka memang cekap dan jangan kita suka melatah..Hanan jauh lebih hebat dari apa yang kita sangka..Mossad dan Shin Beth seperti CIA memang mencari ramai rekrut Islam untuk dakyah dan propganda mereka..Saya berlagak bodoh dan apply tapi mereka tak mahu terima..:)
I guess they saw it from miles away..And
I guess it just part of the game..
Ribuan terima kasih Tun..
Salam Tun,
Gazans’ Humanity
The people living in Gaza are barely surviving after the blitzkrieg of a year ago but whatever they have they are willing to share with the victims of the earthquake in Haiti.
Gaza
Assalamualaikum,
Latest news from Gaza. the Hamas terror isn’t stopping at Israelis solely.
Read this articele:
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Cairo turns screw on Hamas: Execute snipers who killed Egyptian soldier
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report
January 20, 2010, 3:09 PM (GMT+02:00)
Cairo has warned Hamas’ Damascus-based leader Khaled Meshaal in its toughest language ever that Egypt will have no more truck with his Palestinian extremist organization until the snipers who shot dead an Egyptian soldier on the Gaza-Sinai border on Jan. 6 are tried and executed, DEBKAfile’s intelligence sources report.
Their names are known to Cairo.
The Egyptian ultimatum was relayed through Saudi Arabia and Kuwait which are trying to patch up the quarrel between Cairo and Hamas.
Meshal offered to come to Cairo and apologize formally for the Egyptian soldier’s death. He was brusquely snubbed: The Hamas leader had better not land in Cairo because he would not be let off the plane, he was told: “We have given Hamas-Gaza the names of the men who shot the Egyptian soldier and now Hamas must hang them.” Until then, the Hamas leader has no business in Egypt.
Our sources add: Saudi security officers who interceded with Egyptian intelligence minister Gen. Omar Suleiman were told that the Palestinian group’s leaders had become too uppity and begun addressing Egypt as their equal. President Hosni Mubarak decided they needed cutting down to size and taught to respect the region’s real boss.
DEBKAfile’s military sources report that Egypt has tightened its siege of the Gaza Strip, regardless of the torrential rains and flashfloods which swept Egypt and Israel this week. Some 12 Egyptians and tourists died and more are missing, while two Israelis were swept to their death by the raging waters which devastated roads and infrastructure in Sinai and the Negev.
Nonetheless, dozens more military roadblocks went up on all the Sinai road links to Gaza’s smuggling tunnels at a distance of 60-80 km and Egyptian surveillance helicopters began passes, day and night, over the Bedouin smuggling routes.
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Wassalam,
Hanan, Jewish,
Israel.
Friendship initiates “in-house”, “within a society”.
http://friendship-prior-peace.blogspot.com/
Salam Ayahanda Tun,
Dengan izin Tun …..
Cuma nak update sedikit to people like Andrew Tay tentang Israel Regime “humanitarian aids” to the people living in Gaza…. see
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/gaza-horror-large-photo-gallery-of-gaza-massacre-by-israel/
Terima kasih saya kepada Ayahanda Tun … and please take care.
Wasallam.
Salam to all,
Dengan izin Tun….
Here are some of the latest “humanitarian aid” provided by the Israel regime to the civilian living in Gaza for people like Andrew Tay to increase information that he should know.
1. Provision of water to the Gaza people ….. see
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m62326&hd=&size=1&l=e
2. Recycling of parts and components ……see
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m62336&hd=&size=1&l=e
3. Provision of fireworks for the people of Gaza too … see
http://uruknet.info/index.php?p=m62332&hd=&size=1&l=e
4. Awareness presentation to the people in London on how Israel have tried to improvise the livelihood of the civilian living in Gaza…see
http://www.paltelegraph.com/columnists/peter-eyre/3686-the-israeli-rape-of-palestine
… which we doubt that any country in the world today can afford to do.
Thank you very much ayahanda Tun and please take care.
Wasallam.
Assalamu’alikum Tun,
saya mengikuti dgn tekun tulisan-tulisan Tun dan komen-komen yg tersiar di blog ini.pendek kata apa pun yg Tun cakapkan pasti mendapat celaan biadap dari segelintir orang yg hati nya telah penuh dgn kebenciaan terhadap apa pun yg berbau Melayu dan Islam.
penat saudara-saudara kita mengemukakan hujah-hujah bernas namun tak dapat tembus benteng kekafiran yg menyelubungi hati mereka.tapi semua ini tidak sia-sia sebab melalui nya kita dapat lihat dgn jelas betapa benci nya orang kafir terhadap Islam dan Melayu.mereka sentiasa hendak mengukur sejauh mana upaya kita mempertahankan status quo yg telah wujud sekian lama.
sejauh mana kita bertindak mempertahankan diri kita,kerajaan kita,agama kita,kedudukkan kita dan kedaulatan raja kita…semua itu diukur oleh orang-orang kafir sebelum mereka mencetus satu lagi topik baru untuk berbalah.
komen-komen yg dibuat oleh jericho atau s..tan atau andrewtay bukanlah ikhlas mencari kebenaran tapi sebalik nya berbau kebencian yg meluap-luap.orang jujur yg berakal sihat tidak lah akan sampai hati menyamakan DEB kerajaan Malaysia dgn sekatan Zionist terhadap rakyat Palestin.konon nya agama lain didiskriminasi…dan berbagai lagi tuduhan yg membuat kita jadi defensif,padahal mereka tahu semua tuduhan itu tidak benar dan tuduhan itu dilemparkan hanya sekadar untuk mengukur reaksi orang melayu dan kerajaan untuk kemudian nya mereka cetus isu lain pula….
terimakasih yg tidak terhingga kpd pembela-pembela kita seperti wajaperak,prof.ridcully,burung dan lain-lain yg berpenatlelah bersusah payah melindungi martabat agama dan bangsa.semuga Allah Subhanaullahu Ta’ala memberkati usaha anda sekelian dalam mengekalkan Malaysia sebagai negara Islam,Beraja dan Berdaulat.moga-moga kerajaan akan terbuka mata untuk menjadi tegas didlm menangani isu-isu perkauman yg hendak meruntuh status quo yg telah ada sejak sekian lama.
terimakasih Tun.
Dengan izin Tun,
wajaperak
Sorry, I can’t help in this case. First time I’ve heard of Snouck Hurgronje to be honest. What was he? A Dutch colonial administrator? Maybe you can shed some light on who he is.
Salam
Assalamualikum YAB Tun semoga sehat sehat selalu insyallah
Izinkan saya membuat sedikit komen kepada andrewtay.
andrewtay, I guess as much .you got your brain in your knee. If you read my post between the line you know what I meant. There is no point arguing with you. Why don’t you answer my question. what would you do if you are treated like the palestinian?,just pack you bag and leave, or stay and fight? Did I say about slaughtering the Chinese ? don’t be racist, I have many good Chinese friends , since my school days more than you can think of not like you .
Wasalamualikum, maaf YAB Tun, Terima kasih kerana memberi peluang mengguna ruang ini/.
Dear people who dislike my comments.
My opinions have somehow offended the Muslims who do not like how other Muslims are being treated in the Middle East. I can see how my opinion has invoked some strong comments against me. The fact is the MUslims in the Middle East are weak, fueled with anger, revenge and blood lust.
Neither the Israel or the Palestine are exactly what you call the “good guy”. Each have their share of killing or violence. This is what i know.
1) British wants the Arabs to share their land with Israel when independence from the Brits is achieved.
2) Arabs being Arabs, full of pride but weak, decided they CANT accept the fact that the Jews are going to live in settlements in “Arab” land.
3) Arabs tried to force the Jew out from West Bank, by force.
4) Jews had to resort to terrorism and what not to resist the Arabs (like how the Arabs are resorting today)
5) Jews owned Arabs and Israel was created.
6) Arabs unite against Jews. Conventional war broke out. Weak Arabs attack Israel (5-6 organisation and countries attack poor little Israel). But still, Israel manage to resist them because they are strong and according to the Bible, they are God’s chosen people.
7) Arabs kept on harassing Jews. Israel like any other country has to defend itself with the welfare and safety of its people a priority. The Israelites dont exactly have home made rockets. All they have is awesome weapons. They dont hide in civilian township and launch their rockets behind a civilian’s backyard. They dont deliberately launch rockets to civilian township as opposed to the spineless Hezbollah. If Hezbollah stop waging war against the Isrealites, the peace process can resume and everyone can eat rainbows and poop butterflies.
And to suratkhabarlama. I dont think i am kurang ajar when i address our ex-PM as Mr. Mahathir. I certainly dont get offended if people refer Mr. Mahathir as Tun. I am sure he wont be offended if i call him by his name. Stop imposing your values on other people. Its because of people like you, Malaysia is currently volatile.
And you know what, maybe the Malays should slaughter the Chinese since this has been playing in your mind. What is holding you back? 1Malaysia?? haha,spare me.
I’d like to shoot a bullet against the comment made by S.Tan. Long time ago there was a very srong country named Britain which invaded Malaya. At that time, the principle used to administer Malaya was divide and rule. The chinese lived in the towns doing businesses, while Malays were in the kampong doing their paddy field and Indians in the estates doing rubber tapping. The country which originally belonged to the Malays, but the Malays were so kind that they let together the chinese and the indians to rule Malaysia with certain conditions and they accepted. And until now, the chinese are really good on doing business and they generally control every aspect of business in Malaysia while leaving only small portion of the cake to the Malays (the owner of the country). Just imagine with stronghold of business sector and also the administration also be given to them, what would happen to the Malays, just like Singapore lah……what happen to the Malays in Singapore….menang sorak kampong tergadai lah…..why didn’t you (S.tan) ask the singapore government the same questions you asked Tun???????? Blurred….
Assallammmualaikum warah matullah hi waba rokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..Terima Kasih..
Salam Prof_Ridcully..
Many many thanks for the briliant article like always..:)
Prof..saya ini orang tamak..lepas dapat betis, saya nak peha pulak..
Kalau prof ada masa dan sudi,harap dapat ceritakan pula tentang
Snouck Hurgronje
dan peranan beliau dalam menghancurkan kesatuan umat Islam Aceh..
Prof..kami amat memerlukan sumbangan yang bernas dari Prof dan Tun..Harap terus menyumbang untuk masyarakat..
Cukuplah Allah sebagai Pembela dan Pembalas Kebaikan..
Terima kasih Prof..
Terima kasih Tun..
Assallammualaikum warahmatullah hiwabarokatuh
Semoga di izinkan Tun..
[[Dr.Nasoha Saabin]]
Sekali lagi..saya amat amat kesal dengan anda..:(
Salah satu sebab banyak orang melayu generasi muda murtad ialah kerana mereka terpedaya dengan petah dan bijak bicara golongan profesional seperti SR,Kilatberkilau,Kassim Ahmad,The Hidden Secret dan Shaikino..
Mereka tidak berminat kepada keseluruhan pokok persoalan..Hanya berminat dengan hujah yang menarik minat mereka..
Dari segi logik..hujah anda memang first class..( without honour )
Dari segi keislaman..ianya kosong..kosong semata-mata..
Anda sering pandang hina golongan bawahan seperti saya..Oleh itu saya ambil Hujjatul Islam..Imam Ghazali untuk menjawab kemelut yang anda cuba timbulkan..
Dari Ihya Ulumiddin..Hayatilah..
Seorang penyair dari Ihya’ Ulumiddin.Tentang Dunia.
*Kepayahan seperti ulat sutera,
yang bertenun selalu masa,
dalam kesedihan ia binasa,
di tengah-tengah apa yang ia penenunnya!
*Manakala engkau berangkat dari satu kaum,
dan mereka itu sudah sanggup,
bahawa engkau itu tidak berpisah dengan mereka,
maka yang berangkat itu adalah mereka!
*Kelemahan dari memperoleh pengertian itu suatu pengertian jua..
*The inability ( weakness / incompetence ) to attain comprehension itself is an
understanding..
Iman itu ilmu mukasyafah.Keingkaran engkau itu akan alam al-malakut itu seperti keingkaran golongan As-Sumaniyah ( Nama satu golongan yang menyembah berhala-nama sebuah negeri di India )
Keingkaran engkau bagi apa yang kami musyahadahkan ( persaksikan ) dari apa yang di belakang pancaindra yang lima itu seperti keingkaran golongan As-Sufasthaiyah ( satu golongan dari failasuf Yunani ) akan pancaindra yang lima.
Qoute
“Apa yang kami lihat, kami tidak percaya.Semoga kami akan melihatnya dalam tidur ( bermimpi )”
*Bahawa ini adalah orang yang telah rosak tabiatnya dan tercegah pengobatannya.Maka biarkanlah dia dalam beberapa hari yang sedikit sahaja.Tidaklah setiap orang sakit itu di sanggupi oleh para doktor kepada mengubatinya!
Inilah hukumnya orang yang mengingkari!
Dan semua lafal yang di sebutkan dalam bahasa-bahasa itu tidak mungkin di pakai pada Allah Taala selain atas jalan pinjaman kata
( Isti-arah ) dan pelampauan dari erti aslinya ( tajawwuz ).
Naqal ( di ambil dari ajaran agama ).Tidaklah dengan naqal adalah tekaan semata-mata!
Allah berfirman dalam satu Hadith Qudsi
“Apakah engkau tidak tahu bahawa Aku ( Allah ) memberikan rezeki kepada hambaKu dengan tangan hamba-hambaKu lebih Aku ( Allah ) sukai daripada Aku ( Allah ) memberikan rezeki kepada hamba itu dengan Tangan QudrahKu”..
* Jikalau adalah rezeki itu berlaku di atas akal,nescaya binasalah bintang ternak dari kerana kebodohannya!!
If fortune chanced upon wisdom then animal will flounder of being devoid the wisdom!!
Nampak atau tidak? Tepat sekali firman Allah yang mulia di dalam Al Quran Surah Al Haj Ayat 56..
Yang Buta Itu Bukanlah Mata..Tetapi Mata Yang Di Dalam Dada!!
Ribuan Terima Kasih Prof_Ridcully ilmuan Islam yang tulin..
Ribuan Terima Kasih Tun..Negarawan Islam tulin..
Prof Ridicully
LOL, I like how you think I’ve hedged my “arguments” to cover both sides…whereas everyone else supporting Tun M has only one clear view..(or so the perception is set)
Lets go back to the original statement I made…the underlying issue with Palestine-Israel in my view is not only the result of Israel’s doing?
Israel as we know today was created from what was once a Palestine (Muslim-Jew cohabited landmass). The Jews once hostorically held this land (Juddah/Judea), and then reemerged as being a dominant race in this geography – Do you agree with that view?
Lets go back to your statement on the British mandate – in 1922, the British declared that the boundary of Palestine would be limited to the area west whereas area east of the river, then called Transjordan (now Jordan), was made a separate British mandate and eventually given independence.
A large Jewish population felt betrayed that this Historical Palestinian landmass was unlawfully seperated by the Colonial powers even though Britain’s logic to this was in hope of establishing self-governing institutions in the broader region.
The Jews were alarmed by the prospect of such institutions, which would have an Arab majority (especially as they felt they were the minority and would once again be subjected to the plight they faced following the Roman conquest).
However, the Arabs would ALSO not accept proposals for such institutions if they included any Jews at all, and wanted no alignment with the Jews OR THE MANDATE, so this is what I term a “no win” situation.
It could have probably addressed the issues we see today if only the Arabs had been pragmatic in their demands.
Then post partition and the UN mandate, Yasser Arafat and his blotched co-joined plan with Syria and Egypt to capture land from Israel, literally caused the situation that Palestine-Muslim population is facing now
– so where does the majority of the blame to this issue now lie my friend?
I will not be surprised if you don’t agree to the above two statements – that is your entitled opinion. But history and facts dont lie brother – it can be twisted which is what some quarters do by use of creative English like yours…but if you want to research the facts, don’t just plagiarise by extracting text out of a book/online and pasting it…understand the context of various publications first.
And re Tun’s aid work – pls note I acknowledge it …but that is not the argument is it friend?
Am happy to discourse this further online if you will give me a yahoo mail id 🙂
(Ravi)
Tun,
is there anyway we can help? What is the avenue to channel assistance? What can we do if we would like to donate food & money to the Palestinian?
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat. Kiriman saya dgn izin selepas sedikit ubah suai. Ini bukan melulu masuk menuduh tapi menjawab tuduhan yg dilontar. Right of rebuttal….
Pandangan pada tulisan sdr ‘kamal ahmad’ on January 13, 2010 7:39 AM on labeling other parties as peddler of hatred(Pas), racism(Dap), treason and ingratitude(Pkr). Lets compare notes.
…………HATE PARTY
Pas is consistent in its crusade(label hate) against non Islamic behaviour, esp by Muslims. It is right to condemn unreligious behaviour by people who gloat their religious creed (like Umno). Muslim in appearance not deed.
Another party condones hate and fear of neighbours (middle kingdom that suppress minority), other races (greedy, demanding, dominating), other religion (challenge Islam, excessive), US (anti Islam, evil capitalist).
Which hate is more vicious?
………..RACIST PARTY
Read the meaning of these words.
M
Assalamualikum, Yang Amat Barbahagia Tun, semoga sehat sehat selalu insyallah
Izin kan saya untuk membuat sedikit komen terhadap komen S…Tan yang belom lagi faham faham terhadap apa yang saya pernah komen terdahula kenapa kerjaan masih mahu meneruskan DEB demi untuk mempertingkatkan kedudukan orang Melayu dan mempertingkatkan cara hidup mereka supaya standing dengan kaum kaum lain seperti orang China yang kini telah menjadi kaya raya, dan meninggalkan orang Melayu jauh kebelakang dari semua aspek. S…Tan masih lagi iri hati ,sakit hati, busuk hati terhadap kerajaan dan orang Melayu yang di beri peluang untuk memperbaiki diri mereka . Beliau bandingkan orang Melayu seperti orang Israel mahu menyekat mereka dan Malaysia juga tak ubah seperti Israel. Saya mahu tanya S….Tan yang akal nya agak sempit, berapa ramai kah kaum kaum seperti orang China ,India dan lain lain lain di negara ini telah di bunoh dengan kejam? di cacat ,di runtuh dan di bakar dan di bomb rumah rumah kediaman,mereka hospital, kedai kedai, sekolah sekolah rumah rumah Ibadat di bakar burnt to the ground? Can you name them? How many old people, women and children have been killed? How many people are hungry without food and medicine? Dont you compare Malaysia with Israel, dont be bodoh la. Kerajaan tidak pernah merampas hak orang lain untuk menolong kaum bumiputra. Kalau tidak tahu jangan menuduh, Tahukah S…Tan that the biggest Guardwara near the Chow Kit Market was built in Malay area, a couple of years ago near the Kampong baru mosque? Do you know that the biggest Hindu Temple was built in Kelana Come ljaya near the Bintang supermarket a couple of years ago which is about 100 meters from a mosque? They are still there and the Malays who are born Muslim are more tolerant , accommodating and they have not protested or try to bomb the temples? S…Tan dont put more oil to the fire, the Malays who are born Muslim have been living with the Christians in this country for the last 500 years without any incident of burning of churches etc. Now some stupid people just threw bottles or molotove cocktauil, and damaged a little bit of the churches, and they blame the Muslims.Islam teaches Muslims especially in Malaysia not to destroy places of worships, Islam says your religion is your relegion my relegion is mine, I do not worship what you worship, and you do not worship what I worship, so you can carry on with your belief and ours with ours.Come on la S…Tan jangan lah berdenki, try to help the Malays to be at par with you because at the moment they are not on a level playing field, you have gone so far ahead and it will take many more years to catch up with you. You said that you are not allowed in the civil service, do you know that there are many non Malays fighter pilots in the TUDM? can you name one Malay fighter pilot in the the neighbouring country’s Air Force? How many Malay ministers are there, how many top ranking police or army officers are there. Here in Malaysia you have many non Malay top ranking officers in the civil service, police and Army. You dont want to be soldiers,and mata matas you only want to be generals, manah boleh maa
Pohon Maaf Yab Tun, kerana menggunakan tempat yang banyak wassalammualikum
Dengan izin Tun,
Ravi,
In 1947 the membership of the UN consisted of 58 member states [link to UN site]. There are now 193 member states in the UN if you add Montenegro. In 1947 there were two UN proposals for the partition of Palestine: one was a Federal State of Palestine consisting of an Arab State and a Jewish State; and the other partition with economic union consisting of an Arab State, a Jewish State and the City of Jerusalem. There was no consensus on a settlement of the question of Palestine. The majority of the members of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP), recommended that Palestine be partitioned into an Arab State and a Jewish State, with a special international status for the city of Jerusalem under the administrative authority of the United Nations.
The UN thus decided to adopt the second proposal as Resolution 181 (II) of 1947 [link to Yale University law school]
This meant the following:
a. The creation of the Arab and Jewish States not later than 1 October 1948;
b. Division of Palestine into eight parts: three were allotted to the Arab State and three to the Jewish State; the seventh, the town of Jaffa, was to form an Arab enclave within Jewish territory;
c. The international regime for Jerusalem, the eighth division, to be administered by the United Nations.
One of the two States envisaged in the partition plan proclaimed its independence as Israel [on 14 May 1948 when the British bolted out of Palestine] and in the 1948 war expanded to occupy 77 per cent of the territory of Palestine. Israel also occupied the larger part of Jerusalem. Over half of the indigenous Palestinian population fled or were expelled. Jordan and Egypt occupied the other parts of the territory assigned by the partition resolution to the Palestinian Arab State which did not come into being.
That basically is the genesis of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The Palestinians as yet don’t have a state [the “Arab State” as per Resolution 181, the Resolution you were referring to, Ravi] although there are many “road-maps” in that direction; most of their land [as per UN Resolution 181] is under occupation; the Palestinian right of return is unresolved [again, as per Resolution 181]; and Jerusalem is not administered by the UN [yet again as required by Resolution 181].
And to somebody who understands history, it’s a bit of a puzzle when the point man for the Middle-East Quartet, the peace mediators, is Tony Blair who comes from the very country that issued the Balfour Declaration promising a Jewish homeland in Palestine way back in 1917. [Arthur Balfour, as you well know, did not consult the Palestinians about this matter although he was talking about their land; he dealt mainly with the Zionists in the UK and Europe]
It is an issue of arbitrary allocation of land by the then superpowers, the European colonialists, similar to the Kashmir issue after the partition of the Indian subcontinent, the early borders of the Sudan, Timor Leste, Kuwait (historically a part of Iraqi Basra province), the now unified Vietnam, the Western Sahara, Cyprus, Sudetenland (now resolved), etc, without consulting the people staying on the land.
So do you now understand why the issue is protracted Ravi?
You said, he [meaning Tun] wont be just criticising Israel but truly understanding that Muslim nations cannot just call Israel criminal to end this war, and have them sit around a table and work out a plan that will see the Palestinians and Israelis have their separate borders..
The border issue is something the Israelis are dragging their foot at. From their point of view, the longer they can stall this issue the better. It gives them space to build facts on the ground in the Palestinian Occupied Territories by building the illegal so-called “security wall” and illegal Jewish settlements. They blithely swat aside the pious pronouncements of the the UN on this matter when it doesn’t suit them. They even disregard rebukes on settlement-building by the US, their main, albeit — in the eyes of many –impotent, supporter.
It’s not just Muslim nations who are complaining. Let me quote you what somebody who is revered, especially in South Asia, had to say about the Palestinian issue in very early on 1938:
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat sejahtera. Kiriman saya pada pandangan yg di lontar di sini dgn izin…
……….LEMBU PUNYA SUSU SAPI PUNYA NAMA
Mosques, cathedrals, temples, gurdwaras within sight of each other and longest sleeping buddha were all built more than 50yrs ago. Last 40 yrs please name a single temple, cathedral, gurdwara built near existing mosque? The other way round plenty of course. To use structures from 50 yrs ago to proclaim the generosity of present generation is making false claims.
The current round of controversy is caused by the attitude of the present people, the old structures are the generosity of our ancestors. These two generations are the sky and the earth.
……….MATTER OF DEGREE
US definition of race does not extend to ID, unlike M
Dengan izin Tun,
Salam wajaperak
I’m no historian but I’ll try to answer your request with what little I know. I hope the following will be helpful.
I don’t know a lot about TE Lawrence although like countless others I’ve read his “Seven Pillars of Wisdom.” Lawrence was an intelligence officer who attached himself to the forces of Shariff (or Amir) Hussain, Amir of Makkah and a descendent of Prophet Muhammad (saw) ie a member of the Bani Hashim, when the latter declared a revolt — by firing a shot from a window in Makkah — against the Turks in the Arabian peninsula during WW1. The Arab Revolt therefore has to be seen in the context of a much larger conflict, ie World War One. I’ve not come across an account of the Revolt written by an Arab or a Turk. Maybe somebody can point me to one.
Amir Hussain, whom the Ottoman Turks viewed with both reverence and distrust, declared the revolt after the Arabs were promised self-rule by the British should they emerge victorious against the Turco-German alliance in the Middle-East during that war.
Lawrence worked mainly with Amir Faisal, one of Hussain’s younger sons in the Hejaz and became Faisal’s deputy with the Arab forces. Lawrence’s campaign lasted about two and a half years. One of the European powers — I think it was the Brits — wanted the Revolt to be declared a Jihad, but of course it was difficult for the Arabs to do so when their main ally was an infidel and the enemy was another Muslim power, the Ottoman Turks. But they, the Europeans, had thought of exploiting the concept of Jihad even then (1916-19). So they were “Jihadis” long before the term became fashionable as it is now.
Lawrence and Faisal went all the way from Makkah to Damascus. Lawrence was apparently sympathetic to Hussain’s cause, going so far so as to describe himself as “pro-British and pro-Arab.” But he was pro-British first. He certainly had no problems donning Arab dress, was comfortable with Arab culture and knew the Arab (Bedu) mind quite well. This was something because in those days the British colonialists were suspicious if any of their own went “native.” They were afraid that one of their own would take the side of the natives instead of working in their interest. They had no need to worry in Lawrence’s case as, like I said, Lawrence was pro-British first.
If I remember correctly Lawrence withdrew from the post-War conference (where he was a British delegate) as he was ashamed of the fraudulent promises made to the Arabs by the British about self-rule: the British and the French had already secretly hatched a plan (Sykes-Picot Agreement) on how to carve up the Ottoman Empire among themselves should they win the war — the French getting the Lebanon and parts of Syria and Iraq, and the British the rest, etc. According to a biographer of his, Lawrence claimed to have quietly advised Faisal on the existence of this hitherto secret treaty. At any rate the family of Shariff Hussain ruled Arabia for a while until they were expelled by the family of ibn Saud. The descendents of Shariff Hussain are now the rulers of (Hashimite) Jordan.
These events — the machinations of the European Powers behind the scenes — of course laid the groundwork for the British Mandate in Palestine and consequently the Balfour declaration and we all know how that turned out. There is a lesson in there somewhere for people in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and, now, Yemen.
Wasallam.
Salam Tun,
IS WAR A CRIME?
War is a crime. War lead to devastation and miseries. War lead to hatred and criminal acts. Because of war, women are molested and children are made orphans and many children are born without clear lineage. War is not the way to solve problems. Men should resort to other ways other than war to solve their problems. When two countries have misunderstanding about their borders, they should not resolve the problems by having wars between them. Such problems should be brought to the International Court of Justice and whatever decided by the court should be accepted by both nations as final. When the Muslims in southern Thailand and Philippines claimed a separate country, the International Court of Justice should resolve the issues. Both the governments of Thailand and Philippines and the Muslims of their respective countries should put their views regarding the matter. Whatever decided by the court should be accepted by both sides and the wars that has been going on for so many years should stop immediately.
Muslims in southern Thailand and Philippines should not go to war only because the Muslims want to have a country of their own. Why we need a country of only Muslims. We should be able to live cordially with the non-Muslims and invited the non-Muslims to enter Islam. What has happen to the Muslims in India who has moved away from India to establish the predominantly Muslim country of Pakistan and Bangladesh? Are the problems of the Muslims in the subcontinent solved .Although the Muslims have their own country but they remain poor and illiterate .The creation of Muslim countries of Pakistan and Bangladesh does not solve the Muslim problems .Allah has ordered the Muslims to live with the non-Muslim cordially and while living with them we should invite them to accept Islam. What are the reasons that the Muslims in Thailand and Philippines want a country of their own? Are they not allowed to practice their religion and do the work of dakwah? Would it not be better for the Muslims to remain in Thailand and Philippines and to do the work of dakwah to the non-Muslims?
Allah would make the Muslims supreme and honored when the Muslims obeyed the orders of Allah. The first order of Allah to the Muslims is to do the work of dakwah. Dakwah means to convey the great words to the non-Muslim and the second order of Allah is to perform five times daily solat. Allah has sent Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and the Muslims as a blessing for the entire humanity. Allah has ordered Prophet Muhammad s.a.w and the Muslims to invite the non-Muslims to accept Islam and to recite the great words, I bear witness there is no God except Allah and Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah. Now the work of dakwah is dead. Muslims have stopped doing the work of dakwah. Muslims do not do the work of dakwah as they used to do. When the Muslims disobeyed Allah then Allah is not pleased with the Muslims and problems come
In order to solve the problems of the Muslims, the Muslims must obey Allah. The problems come because of disobedience and it would be solved only when the Muslims obeyed Allah. When the Muslims try to solve the problems by waging war against the non-Muslims then the problems increased .When the Muslims wage war against the non Muslims because they do not grant our claimed of having our own country then the Muslims has disobeyed Allah .Allah does not allow us to go to war with the non-Muslim only because they do not agree with our demand to have a country of our own. Whether we have a country of our own or not is not important to Allah. What is important to Allah is we obey Allah at all times and circumstances. When we obey Allah, Allah is pleased and when we disobey Allah, Allah is displeased.
When Muslims wage war against the non-Muslim because they do not want to agree to our demand to have a country of our own then the Muslim has disobeyed Allah. Allah does not allow us to wage war against the non-Muslim on reasons of material things. When we disobeyed Allah, we certainly will not get the help of Allah. Allah will make us lose the war and at the same time, many Muslims children and women will die and injured because of the war. Allah will make us tired of the war and yet the land still does not belong to the Muslims. The war between the government of bothThailand and Philippine and the Muslims have gone for so many years and until now nothing has been resolved. War is a crime. The war has caused untold suffering to so many people. The war does not make Allah pleased and the war is not jihad. War against the non-Muslim because of power, land and wealth is not jihad. Muslims should only go to war when the rulers of the country stopped the work of propagating Islam or the great words. In Islam, war is like tayamum .Tayamum is done when there is no water available for ablution .When the work of dakwah is stopped then only war is necessary. When Muslims wage war against the non-Muslims on reasons other than to propagate the great words then the Muslims have disobeyed Allah. Allah prohibits Muslims to engage in wars that arise because of materials and power. Muslims are sent in this world only for the propagating the great words to the non-Muslims and to invite them to enter Islam. Muslims are sent in this world for the benefits of mankind and not to cause miseries and suffering to the peoples.
Dr.Nasoha Saabin
January 2010
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Dear Tun Dr.M
Please allow me to comment: andrewtayAuthor Profile Page on January 15, 2010 3:15 PM
Andrewtay;
You are being very heartless, cruel, selfish and does not seems to care what happen to other people not of your kin, especially for innocent victim of war. Do you pity people hit by natural disaster e.g. in Haiti now? I think you are young, your parents may be rich and you does not have a family of your own. If you have children, then your thinking would have been different, especially for the peace in future. You also seems not to know history well.
I do not assist them (Gazan) in any away. I can only pity them, and does not say anything if other people want to help. What happen in the middle east is not because of oil; It’s about land. Long ago, when war was fought with sword, bows & arrows, the Arabs are mighty and drove the Jews away.
You said;
“If a conflict involves wars, then the losing side should pack up and move else where”.
That’s right, thousand year ago. Nowadays, you need passport, money (lots of them) or talent/knowledge of any kind beneficial to your new host, for them to accept you. In migrating, you must accept it on their terms. You know Vietnam refugees that Malaysia helps, about 40years ago? Many of those who flee arms conflicts are professional & wealthy people and they are the ones, first accepted by America, Australia…. The poor will stay behind to fend for themselves.
Back to Middle-east.
Yes, OIL makes money and only causes the Arabs to become weak, indirectly breaking their unity. But that was just about 100yrs ago, as dependent of oil increase. It also hasten the Jews return to claim what they have lost, hundreds of years ago. If not for the West, meddling Arab affairs, the Palestinian would not be as they are today. Malaysian too, would not be as it is today, if not for the west aggression, and the Malays greed, of course.
Please read below:-
By prof_ridcullyAuthor Profile Page on January 14, 2010 6:22 PM
We in Malaysia, could be another Middle east, if we keep on being selfish and does not care for needs of others.
Lets say, there is communal strife, in Malaysia, 10, 30, 100yrs time, and being in control of guns, the Malays treated the Chinese & Indian cruelly. You think the China & India won’t come to help their kins. Of course US, being the world police, would come too. The Malays are sure to loose their land. Can they flee anywhere else? Our neighbours, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, do not care? But many innocent lives would already be killed. You think the war will end, as simple as that. The losing Malays will become the same as Palestinians, today. Somebody else in this world will surely help them. Imagine the hatred, amongst us then.
You said;
“And if any money reach Palestine, its used to train militia, suicidebombers and arming militias. The Hizbollah are so engrossed in killing any Israel that they forget about the welfare of their people”.
I only hope 1Malaysia, would not be another Palestine.
The only way to achieve that:-
1. One school for 1Malaysia.
2. Change our names, faith, skin colour, etc. so that we are same race, 1 human race.
May Allah bless us all, regardless what faith we are.
Thank you Tun.
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hi waba rokatuh..
Tun..
Dahulu di dalam blog Tun..Tun mencadangkan penggunaan bot untuk pembekalan barangan keperluan ini..Saya protes kerana bot memang tak mampu memberi ruang yang banyak untuk perbekalan ini..
Alhamdullilah..Tun berjaya dengan jalan darat.Di harap nanti Tun dapat meninggalkan banyak ambulan dan Pegawai-Pegawai Perubatan untuk keperluan rakyat Gaza..By the way mengapa
medicine sans frontiers senyap je…? Dapatkah Mercy set up base di Gaza??
Tun..saya ada satu cadangan..
Di dalam ‘rank and file’ Pegawai-pegawai Tentera Mesir ada banyak yang membenci Hosni Mubarak kerana cuba membunuh rakyat Gaza secara halus ini.Mereka tidak berdaya bertindak kerana tangan mereka terikat..
Tun carilah mereka..mereka ini berkemampuan memberi jalan selamat ‘safe passage’ kepada perbekalan yang akan datang..Janganlah perbekalan akan datang..datang setahun sekali..:(
Marilah kita berusaha supaya perbekalan ini dapat di bekalkan sekurang-kurangnya sebulan sekali..
Kepada siapa kita berharap?
Hanya kepada Allah Yang Maha Esa..
Melalui tangan siapa ?
Tangan Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad yang mulia..
Ribuan Terima Kasih Tun..
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hiwaba rokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..
Dear Prof_Ridcully
[[the disintegration of the Turkish Ottoman Empire. Palestine was among the several former Ottoman Arab territories]]
Does Lawrence of Arabia
had anything to do with this integration that paved the way for Balfour Declaration eventually?Does British and their counterpart have “formulated’ plan that make this possible..I would like very much to trouble you for some very informative feedback..Thank you..
Kamal Ahmad bro..
The citizen of kane..oopss..I mean the city folks and elsewhere can never be “Gazan” for anything that it truly matters..The hardship we suffer is Our own devise in choices of option..
We make our bed..we lie on it..
The Gazan were forced this option.They inherited them from their father and their father before them..Some forefather does make error of mistake in their choiche of option that makes their children and their children suffers several generation..( Harimau Jadi-Jadian = weretiger for example )In this respect..Gazan children’s are absolved of all this blame..
Tun have highlighted this correctly against many other struggles like Tamil Eelam,Rohingya and Muslim in Southern Thailand..In all this places of trouble water of trouble nation..
Lim Kuan Yew should be their spokeperson and Champion of Human Right..
We demanded that Tun sticks to Palestinian..
Terima kasih Tun..
Assallammualaikum warah matullah hiwaba rokatuh..
[[The Muslims should stop the war with Israel as it is against the order of Allah. Allah is not pleased with the war and Allah is not going to help us to wins the war.]]
Dr.Nasoha Saabin
Dr..I assume mthago is you..I am so dissapointed with professional of your calibre who does not take cue from Prof_Ridcully and Tun himself..I am office boy as a profession..After sweeping,moping and dusting..Boss allows me to use the computer.From Tun blog I learnt a lot of wisdom..Obviously you missed out this verse from Al Quran..I will give you a hint..
Boleh jadi kamu membenci pada sesuatu..Sedangkan ianya baik bagi kamu..
If you learned the Asbabul Nuzul, you will understand clearly..Even my very limited intelligence understand this..
I am truly afraid the phenomenon where more and more the so called ‘Islamic’ professional question the wisdom of Allah through Al Quran..
They question the hadith..They question the purpose of Jihad and so on..Obviously they have achieved material achievement in their career..How about their understanding in Islam itself?…:(
Terima kasih Tun..
andrewtay
[[I have always been rooting for the winning team, Israel]]
Aha..Obviously you are not a military student nor history..Winning or losing is determined by many year’s..hundreds and even many thousand’s year’s..Noah are at the losing end when he started preaching to his people..It took him..seribu tahun kurang lima puluh ( Al Quran ) to finally emerged victorious..
And in the named of Salahuddin Al Ayubi we managed to wrest away Jerusalem from the Crusader after less than 100 years occupation..
Now in this modern world..you are rooting a winning team that will not last then 40 more year’s..Just count out your numbered year’s..This time our victory is forever…:)
[[And if any money reach Palestine, its used to train militia, suicidebombers and arming militias. The Hizbollah are so engrossed in killing any Israel that they forget about the welfare of their people]]
Wow..such a clear view from..from..er..where were you say you are from again..Jerusalem??
[[I dont sympathise with the Palestine. They lost a few wars (Israel – Arab wars) and yet they have the pride to live at the land which was GIVEN to them by Israel after losing that same piece of land to conventional wars which they initiated first]]
Aha..you have seen the Land lease..or the grant..I don’t..Can you furnish a copy so everybody can see..clearly..as clearly as you are..by the way who granted the land..God ? UN..America or you granted it to them..?
I am so in the dark…:(
[[If a conflict involves wars, then the losing side should pack up and move else where]]
Yes..they should..Starting with you..starting with Tun blog..
Terima kasih Tun..
Prof Ridicully
I am not refering to the British mandated partition, but the one scribed by the UN – Partition Plan 181 in 1947
At the end of day, the “Palestinian land” was segregated to avert conflicts between Palestinians of Arab/Muslim and Jewish background (now the Israelis).
So, I’d suggest you read up about the partition plan …and then form your judgement of who’s protracted this issue…
2/ Whats your comment on Arab nations who I say are just doing lip service of their sympathy of Palestine. Do you believe they honestly want peace in that region or their own motivation is to see Israel non-existant?
3/ What’s your take on Tun’s own initiative in supporting the Palestinian cause – my view is he is just interested in lip service else if he was sincere in finding a peaceful solution, he wont be just criticising Israel but truly understanding that Muslim nations cannot just call Israel criminal to end this war, and have them sit around a table and work out a plan that will see the Palestinians and Israelis have their separate borders…
Nice to see Tun’s perdana foundation doing some aid work…but that is akin to applying a bandaid to a severed limb…not doing anything to reattach it…
(Ravi)
salam Tun,
It has been a long time since I was last here.
to andrewtay,
what else can I say except that you are typically OPPORTUNISTIC by nature.You really don’t care about human sufferings,what’s right and wrong.
to tunnel visioned Hanan,
do not try to bullshit us with your rhetorics.We can spot a devious satan like you anywhere.Your illegal Zionist regime WILL eventually someday be tried in an International Court of Justice for crimes against humanity.
YOU ARE MASS MURDERERS MASQUERADING AS HUMAN BEINGS!PTUI!
Jeng3
I love Dr Mahathir so much. I shooke his hand 3 times whwn he came to visit Maktab Tunku bainun a few years ago. When sea of people line up to shook hand with him, i shift 3 times and shook his hand 3 times hehehe that’s why.. His date of birth is 20th December mine is 19th December. My father’s name also Mohamad and I’m also from Kedah 🙂
Dr Mahatir,
Sir,
I agree with AndrewTay. It seems that the Arab nations are acting like sore losers. Most Malaysians are probably not aware or even care that the Ottoman Empire sided with Hitler. The Grand Mufti Amin Al Husseini paraded around with the Nazis calling for the blood of the jews. They lost and the land was carved up by the British. Instead of making peace they choose to go to war over and over again. Gamal Abdul Nasser not satisfied with getting his ‘ass kicked’ formed the fedayin to terrorize the hebrew nation. Today the Arab nations have made Palestinian ‘Ghetto’s’ in their lands. Refusing them citizenship and/or human rights. It has always been Israel’s fault or so they say.
As for donations for Palestinians. Please help them. One also has to
be honest about if they are a forgotten people’s. Who has forgotten who? It is a well known fact that
‘PLO officials used the billions of dollars donated by the Arab oil states and, during the Oslo era, by the international community to finance their luxurious style of life while ordinary Palestinians scrambled for a livelihood’
North Korean starving peasants didn’t even have the opportunity for
food compared with the amount of resources that poured into the PLO coffers through the years. Israel has on many occasions attempted to negotiate peace with the Palestinian Authority. HAMAS does not want peace and are subsequently holding the Palestinians hostage in Gaza.
Assalammualikum Yang Amat Berbahagia Tun
Please allow me to comment on andrewtay’s comment.
I do not know whether you are a Malaysian or otherwise. If you are, than you are really kurang ajar for not addressing YAB Tun the proper way.You may hate him but he deserved a proper treatment as an ex Prime Minister.
2 Put yourself a Chinese ,in the shoes of the Palestianian people, and let us presume that the Malays are the Israelists. Now the Malays want to get rid of the Chinese because they have no right to be in Malaysia. The Malays have the Army , the weapones, Air Forc e ,Navy ,Polis etc. They keep bombing you ,kill your children, your father and mother brothers and sisters . They keep on bringing more Malays to outnumber you, they build settlements in your housing areas,they build fence to seperate you, they stop you from comming to work in their area, they stopped food and medical supply. In other words they want to slowly starve you to death, so that you will pack your bags and leave for China. You have only stones and home made rockets to throw at them. They keep on killing you everyday of the year.Since you feel that Malaysia is your country , your home and you have the right to stay here ,because your families are here. Would you just pack your bags and leave???? Are you happy that they want to get rid of you, or kill you. Would you smile at them and wave good bye? and let them kill your relatives. Think andrewtay, think weather what the israel is doing is right? It is only right you want to fight back because this is also your country.
3 That is what the palestianians are doing , they are fighting for their homeland
I hope andrewtay does not have his brain in the knee, you are nothing compared to Tun, not even with his toenail.
maaf, YAB Tun semoga Tun sekeluarga sehat sehat selau insyallah. wasalamualikum
i agree with andrewtay!
MOST OF ARABS SUPERIOR/GOVERMENT ARE TOTALLY GREEDY!!
AND MOST OF ARABS LIKE TO KILLING EACH OTHER EVEN ON THE SAME BOAT!
1921,1949,1952 AND 1967 OF ARABS-ISRAEL WAR END UP WITH NOTHING!
EVEN NOW, SYI’AH AND SUNNI ARE EVEN SLAUGHTER EACH OTHER JUST BECAUSE A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING THAT KEEP WIDER WIDER AND WIDER..
ROYAL KING OF SAUD MUST STEP DOWN QUICKLY!
ROYAL KING OF SAUD MUST STEP DOWN QUICKLY!
ROYAL KING OF SAUD MUST STEP DOWN QUICKLY!
WE NEED TO START TO BE UNITED!
THIS IS OUR LAST GLORY..
Dengan izin Tun,
andrewtay
Thanks for putting down your “thoughts” down, such as they are.
Judging by your language you are obviously someone who is well brought up. I congratulate your parents for bringing up such a fine person as you. They’ve done a good job. They must be extremely proud of their offspring.
Now let me tell you something, you arrogant little pig
The Palestine-Israel conflict is not a matter of ego, pride or saving face. It is not a matter of embarrassment. It is about a land-grab by a people that is based on false history and an ideology, Zionism, that calls for the cleansing of the occupied land of its native inhabitants in order to form a Jewish state.
Israel, which you support, practices genocide and ethnic cleansing on a daily basis in defiance of world opinion and countless UN resolutions. People like us are sick of the atrocities committed by the Israelis on a hapless who happen to want to stay on their land.
The Palestinians are resisting eviction from their land in the face of overwhelming military might. I’ve written about this in one of my earlier comments
I don’t know where you live but if you live somewhere in the SE Asian region, aren’t you glad the Japanese didn’t ask your forefathers to move on after they occupied the countries in this region? Or even the British, the French or the Dutch in earlier times? Who knows, you could be living in a pigsty, sorry, tent, today if that were to happen.
But I honestly don’t expect a swine to understand these subtleties. Best wishes to your parents. It must have been a joyous day when they had you in their mob of piglets.
Salam Tun & readers,
For those interested (Jews or Gentiles) read:
By Way of Deception: The Making of a Mossad officer
Author: Victor Ostrovsky
(A book Israel seek to ban)
and
The Other Side of Deception: A Rogue Agent Exposes the Mossad’s Secret Agenda
Author: Victor Ostrovsky
Or Google the above titles to get some excerpts.
En. Kamal Ahmad – Well said. Kudos!
Wassalam
Mr Mahathir,
The fate of the people in Gaza has been noted for a long time. In fact, the ongoing crisis in Gaza has been making headlines all over the world since the conception of Israel.
People are just SICK of the whole news. I personally dont care anymore. I have always been rooting for the winning team, Israel.
You can blame Israel or American but lash your fury on the Arabs with as much intense as the American or Israel? But of course, you are bias to the bones too. If the Arabs wanted to help their fellow Arabs, they could have done so a long time ago. There are 3 reasons : OIL OIL OIL!
They got the Americans balls in their grip but Arab are scared of the American and Israel. They have a good reason too. Look at their fellow Arab, Iraq. 41 days of war and BOOM!!! That is embarrassing.
What is even more embarrassing? Israel vs The Arab World(Iran, Jordan, PLO, Eqypt, Syria/Lebanon) tried to kick Israel’s ass with bigger army in terms of soldiers, mechanised vehicles, air-superiority jets, bombers, helicopters. Some of those weapons are newer and more superior as compared to the Israelites. What happened? One of the wars ended in 6 days. Malu, malu malu!
Another thing, Arabs are greedy bastards who wants moolah, bling, another Range Rover, another palace, another wife. They dont give a rat’s ass about the Palestines.
And if any money reach Palestine, its used to train militia, suicidebombers and arming militias. The Hizbollah are so engrossed in killing any Israel that they forget about the welfare of their people.
I dont sympathise with the Palestine. They lost a few wars (Israel – Arab wars) and yet they have the pride to live at the land which was GIVEN to them by Israel after losing that same piece of land to conventional wars which they initiated first. If a conflict involves wars, then the losing side should pack up and move else where.
Salam Tun,
http://mthago.wordpress.com/
The war between Palestine and the Israel has lasted more than six decades. Since the creation of the state of Israel the war continues and thousands of people died due to the war. The peoples particularly the Palestinians have undergone untold suffering due to the war. Many attempts have been made to create peace between Palestinian and Israel and The United State of America has always been the peace mediator between them. None of the peace treaty created by The United State of America since six decades ago has reached any success. All the peace treaties developed by The United State of America had reached the state of failure. One after the other of the American President has attempted to make peace between Palestine and the Israel but all attempts so far has not bear any fruit.
What causes the war between the Palestine and the Israel? Once we know the causes then we know how to deal with the issue. Wars are due to rivalry between two nations the Palestine and Israel about the lands that the Israel claimed to be their lands since thousands of years. Historically the land belongs to the Israelites. The Israelite used to live in this land for thousands of years before they were driven away and forced to live as fugitives in other parts of the world. After World War Two the Israelites return to occupy the lands that their forefathers used to live and call the land by the name Israel. When the Israelites were driven away from their lands, the lands are occupied by the Arabs who are predominantly Muslims and they call the lands by the name Palestine. The Arabs also have lived in the land for a very long times and has regarded the lands as their original homeland. None of the two nations want to relinquish their right over the lands. Both claimed that the land belong to them. Although the Arabs are willing to recognize the right of the Israelites to occupy some part of the lands but Israel on the other hand is not even willing to give any inch of the lands to the Arabs. The Israel wants the whole lands belong to them and they are not willing to relinquish even the lands that they have occupied from the Palestinians. The Israel wants the whole lands to them and the Arabs to live only as a citizen of Israel.Israel does not want to recognize Palestine as a sovereign nation.
As long as both nations are not willing to come to terms the problems will remains the same. The Israel is not willing to come to any terms proposed and agreed by the Palestinians. The Jews are the main citizen of Israel and they believe that they are the children of God while others are not. As the children of God the Jews believe that they have the most right to remain in the land where the city of Jerusalem lies. Although Jerusalem is also the sacred city of the Muslims yet Jerusalem is the only sacred city of the Jews. The Jews have only Israel as their homeland while the Arabs have almost the whole Arab Peninsula as their lands. The Jews find many reasons to remain steadfast with their claim that Israel is the land of the Jews. The proposed solution of having two sovereign nations Israel and Palestine are not acceptable to Israel.
The Jews wants the whole land to become Israel or otherwise the problem would never be solved. Thousands of peoples including children died or injured due to the war. Since the Jews are better equipped militarily, the catastrophe is mainly on the sides of the Muslim Arabs. The war has become massacre of human being and it has been going on for more than six decades and it should be stop immediately. As a Muslim we do not like war. War is a crime unless it is done because of the order of Allah and to please Allah. Allah ordered us to wage war only when the work of propagating the great words has been stops by the rulers of the country. Muslims only engage in war when the rulers of the country refused both the offer to accept Islam as his religion and to pay tax to the Muslims. When the work of dakwah is stop by the rulers of any country then the choice that is available to the Muslims at that time is to wage war against the ruler the country. When Muslims goes to war only because of the order of Allah and to please Allah, then Allah
Dear Tun,
I don’t understand why some of the readers here are fussing over the Arabs not doing anything for the Gazans. Just because they don’t, does not mean that we have to be like them. There are some situations that we must practice ” kubur kita, kubur dia. Biarlah.”(Our grave, their grave, let them”). Somebody has to start doing something about it.One day, I hope I could join the Convoy but not before my biggest hope of all that the Palestinians could live in peace.
Tun, pada saya Tun adalah contoh terbaik yang ada di depan mata kita dalam menyebarkan keindahan Islam.. tak payah pakai serban, berjubah dan bercelak. Tak payah sibuk sibuk nak praktikkam hudud. Buat sajalah apa Rasullullah sampaikan. Doa jika tidak disertakan dengan usaha, tak kan jadi. Begitulah sebaliknya.
Untuk pengetahuan semua, Tun adalah Pengerusi PGPO.
Syabas PGPO. Syabas Tun.
Salam Sejatera kepada Tun beserta Keluarga.
Thank you for keeping Malaysia informed about the situation around. I believe if you were not born in this country, my fellow members would treat Malaysians the same way as Jews are treating the Palestinians and as the open example is Singapore.
You can imagine what is on the mind of my member (Pendatang) Mr. Liew, he would be very happy if your sons would give away their wealth together with all other Malaysians (Malays if there is any). He and most of other members believe that Malaysians don’t deserve to have any wealth.
Please keep Malaysia enlightened.
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun,
Just wanted to respond to some of the ridiculous accusations posted by some people.
Dear Helmi,
If calling Chinese Malaysian, Indian Malay etc is separate & rule, can you explain why Americans are defined by Asian American, African American,Latino, etc.. and suprisingly Caucasians are just called Americans. Should they be called British American since everyone is identified by their country of origin?
If i were to apply the same principle that you applied on Tun,can i also say that ” the revered land of democracy” America also practice separate & rule?
Hanan, you dont live here, do make any presumptions on things that you just read on the internet…
FYI, in the little town named Seremban which is 45 mins drive from KL, the state Mosque, Cathedral, Indian Temple and a Sikh Gurdwara all co existed happily for more than 50 years, all within walking distance of each other. Nothing were ever cast here, not a even single stone.
This is prevalent all throughout Malaysia, chinese budhist temples, thai budhist temple, so many places of worship near to each other and if i am not mistaken also a couple of Jews prayer hall , one in Penang and one in KL.
We have the longest sleeping buddha in the most predominantly islamic state in the country, Kelantan. Well, just to tell you, the buddha have been “sleeping very soundly” for many years.
But just like a marriage, you have to be careful or your words and actions may hurt your partner’s feeling. Most Malaysian are happy in the spirit of Muhhibah.
Unlike Israel’s, we dont fire machine guns on stone wielding kids or people praying in mosques, we do not encroach of other country’s land, the same country who allowed you part of their land when your people had nowhere to go. In fact, Singapore were carve from Malaysia. We are a very benevolant country.
I believe the “crazies” that are doing all these stupid burning of churches , just like some “crazies” are trying to encroach on some areas of our country’s social contracts.. maybe these people are just taking a leaf out your wonderful country’s books… 🙂
So please understand, if you feel you need to defend your country and religion, so do all of us in Malaysia and the rest of the world. Please also note that we dont send missiles and set up wars killing innocent people to do it. We only have a war of words in our beloved Tun’s webblog.
We do hope your people take a leaf out our of country’s books.. remember , War of WORDS, not bombs, missiles, AK47 etc
P/S) Burung, : wonderful articles, excellent research . Thank you for sharing.
Thank you Tun. Salam to beloved ‘MUMMY” Tun Hasmah.
Take care..
Salam kasih dan salam hormat Ayahanda Tun. Minta izin dengan terima kasih Tun.
Some of us here are really big shots who we would not normally rub shoulders with in a daily wet market, some here are commanding brokers whom we would never normally rub shoulders with at the supermarket check-outs. Some here are the super rich, who would fly above others in private jets crisscrossing their daily world. I am a man who is a worker. I am for ever a worker caste. When I eat my lunch I eat fast because my upbringing had dictated to me that human
As usual Ayahanda Tun,
The Star Online…
//Friday January 15, 2010
DPM: Greater understanding could have averted attacks on churches
By CHOI TUCK WO
LONDON: Greater understanding and tolerance among people of various religions could have averted the arson attacks on churches.
Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said such incidents might have been avoided from the beginning if there had been a culture of understanding, tolerance and moderation.
The Deputy Prime Minister said he had been receiving quite a number of messages from his Christian friends from Sabah and Sarawak over the issue.
No one has answered Jericho’s claims. He may be right or not yet no one has answered him.
In 3,000 Years Humans have fought 5,000 wars. It will not get better despite all our Prophets,religions,avatars,etc……2,000 years have passed since Jesus’ time and more war had happened due to religious intolerance than anything else.
There are 2 types of sicknesses – Spiritual and Psychological. The Psychologists are Spiritually sick and the so-called Spiritual teachers are Psychologically sick. The rest are suffering from both. Very rarely is a man found to be free from these sicknesses. He is the man who has found his own true nature and he keeps silence…even speaking has become futile! All the wars will only end when every human reaches his own peak.
We have more than 6 Billion people on earth now and one day in future may reach 10 billion. More war and famine will erupt. We need more Global Peace Organizations to have meetings and arrange a get together? Unless everyman helps himself there is no way he can help others. You alone are responsible to your inner self……
Dear Tun Dr.M
Please allow me to comment: By silvervillage Author Profile Page on January 13, 2010 9:58 PM.
Dear Sivervillage.
(I type a capital S to show respect to you).
Tun Dr.M does not even know who we are. Still we praise him just to show respect for a man who have created a peaceful environment in this multi ethnic & multi religious country, where all insist of preserving their own culture, language & faith. This is sure a recipe for communal strife. What would happen to us if another Balkan conflict erupt here.
(Please read “By kamal ahmad, Author Profile Page on January 13, 2010 7:39 AM).
Look at our neighbours, except down south, where all show respect and use only the language & culture of the definitive original people. However, we the Malays have been very generous & in fact, make-way too much. We even gave away our territory, down south and recently lost Pulau Batu Putih. Please show some respect by not asking too much, too soon.
As for Mr.Hanan, you & Jericho might also not be Malaysian citizen. So you do not care, what happen to this country, in near future. Or if you are a foreigner, you may be inciting conflict, so that we can buy arms from you. If you are Malaysian, you might already have a 2nd. home, somewhere else to fled to, when we start killing each other over this land. Just like in Mr.Hanan’s ancient homeland, except that his people is mighty now & does not need to flee, again.
Tun’s worshippers might be blind in the eyes, but not at heart. You may not like him, but he is the man, we as a peace loving people, would find solace when all hell break loose, in this country of ours.
Thank You.
Salam Tun & respectable CheDet fellow bloggers,
Please ignore and forget the 2 jokers, namely Hanan & Jerico. The former with childish comments , not worth a cent but the latter is worst for his big lies, thus treating us like blinds and fools.
Maybe some of us should ask ourselves ” why for all the clear injustice and cruelty inflicted by the Jews/Zionist to the Palestinians, they still remain on this earth with impunity?”
There must be a lesson ( hikmah )for us to learn here. Perhaps Allah purposely make this to happen so that we can be reminded to strengthen & maintain highest level of faith ( Iman )in Allah as always mentioned in the Quran, only for those selected to understand that nothing will happen without Allah permission ( Izin ). It is a TEST of our FAITH ( IMAN ).
Dear Tun,
We as a civilised HUMAN RACE are deeply sadden by the kind of inhuman suffering we can inflict on ourselves.
And for what..that we are better the others?
That Isreal is able to blantantly get away with MURDER on a daily basis is incomprehensible. That it can happen in this day and age of enlightenment and freedom of speech..opps sorry except if its about Isreal cause you can be jail for Anti…semi….I don’t even dare say the word.
So it not really free after all.
Again Jangan jadi BODOH…kenapa kita nak tiru cara orang2 ni…kita ada cara kita…BUAT cara kita.
Institusi mereka2 ni tak betul..buat apa kita ikut2.
May GOD BLESS ISREAL WITH THEIR JUST REWARD in the promised land. But ALLAH the one and only GOD has different plans we are SURE.
ALLAH the one and only GOD of all that exist.
ALLAH one not given birth to nor precreates.
ALLAH one which is beyond our comprehension (none like to).
Any other god cannot be the one and only if these qualilites are not the attributes. How can god look like any of us? How can god fornicate to procreate? How can god have equals or partners? God GOD (ALLAH) the one and only.
And yes ALLAH is the most just…no race is blessed by ALLAH (not even the JEWS) except those HUMANS who seek ALLAH BLESSINGS by good deeds and just to other humans and creatures.
Want to know facts about who supports Israel…
Read this two links..
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=78731&d=4&m=8&y=2006
http://www.waleg.com/archives/014916.html
Make your own judgements…
PEACE TO THE EARTH…
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
SDR. KU KAMAL AHMAD,
YOUR POSTING ON THE 13TH JAN. IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND THANK YOU.
WHAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED DO JIVE WITH OUR THOUGHTS IN SOME WAYS AND WE ENVY YOUR ENDURANCE.
OF LATE, OUR EYES GET EASILY TIRED AND THE BODY JUST CANNOT RUN THE ‘MARATHON’ ANYMORE.
PLEASE CONTINUE DOING YOUR ‘MARATHONS’ FOR THE SAKE OF ANAKANDA RAKYAT CHEDET.CC AND GUIDE THE WAY TO A ROSTRUM FINISH.
MEANWHILE, ‘SAMURAIMELAYU’ WILL JUST TANGO WITH PENDEKAR AZIZ (BUJANG LAPOK) WITH HIS SHORTHAND!…HE HE HE
WAWASAN 2020 BUKAN TITIK PENYUDAH BAGI JENERASI MENDATANG IA BERMULA
ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
Salam Tun M….Sentiasa curahkan bakti TUN…amiiiinnn…
To Boz who commented on Jan 14: (1) If you think Gazans keep “hammering on issues which did not matter once upon a donkey time ago,” you need to close your eyes tight and imagine a bulldozer hammering your house to a pulp; (2) I know for a fact that you weren’t there at the creation of this world to witness Gazans begin the fighting; and (3) open your eyes wide and know that with the sole exception of Al-Qur’an, whatever you read, Boz, are not facts but his-story, someone’s perception and probable manipulation of a story in time. Now please do go grow your intelligence. Oops… one more thing – the world will stop fighting when “Israelis” stop stealing land.
Ravi
I’m not sure if you’ve read up properly on the Palestinian-Israeli issue.
When the United Nations was founded on 24 October 1945, the territory of Palestine was still administered by the UK under a Mandate received in 1922 from the League of Nations that was established after WW1. Among the issues that had to be dealt with by the Mandatory Power (UK) was the question of a Jewish home in Palestine. Increasing Jewish immigration to Palestine following the Second World War was strongly opposed by the Arab inhabitants, who in the mid-1940s comprised about two thirds of the territory
Dear Sir,
Once my malay boss ask me, why I am a hindu and I told him I am not sure what to say however, he expalined that I am a hindu because my father is a hindu likewise he was a muslim cos his father was a muslim. Deep inside, I was wandering what he meant by all those things.
He futher asked me, how to define ‘god’, I frankly told him I don’t know. Well he said ‘god’s existence exist in a form of energy that circulates around us as the five elements of nature that is earth, wind, fire, water, air.
He said as a human we need all 5 elements of nature to survive and adapting to the surrounding environment shall enable us to live life utmost.
He also mentioned, once while coming towards the ‘sand pit’ how he encounted with 30 foot huge phyton face to face and knowing the immediate looming danger he quikly ‘murmed’ to himself that as long as you have you way of life and so do I, after which the huge phyton slowly disapeared into the swamp. I assume that the phyton understood those words ‘murmed’ by my boss.
After more talkings, we when back to work, again I was thingking to myself, all this while we indians and chinese have been praying to the 5 elements of nature and the godly nature exist inside once self.
In the end, it all surmarise how one values once ‘right to life’ harmoniously with nature bearing in mind 2012.
Well, I just wanted to share this story.
Dear Tun Dr M,
It shows your political maturity and sharp instinct to give a break to local politics and spend sometime on the international scene. If all Malaysians can know when, where and how to indulge on issues that affect them directly or indirectly, peace and progress would be fast in Malaysia. If there is any conflict in the country, the politicians should take the role of a peacekeeper (I mean, the real peacekeeper). The enforcement units should give the same treatment to the affected parties.
Many here said well about kamal ahmad comments. So I read his.
I think everyone should find kamal ahmad and read.
Thank you.
nm
P.s. Tun, this guy is good!
I am astonished at the obtuseness projected by silvervillage and jericho. Their lame allegations unveil some sort of callowness or perhaps imbecility.
Dont be angry to Hanan. He just defend his beloved country, Israel.
I dont want to comment about his comment because his comment directive to Tun and not to other readers.
Waiting anwer from Tun.
Burung..
BRAVO..
Feed me more..cause I cannot feed the ‘bird’ of superior being like the Garuda and
Phoenix..
Keep us well informed..
Terima kasih Tun..
more about true jews/zionis/israel here:
http://www.globalfreemasonry.com
More about Zionis/Jews/Israel. You’ll surprise when u find out it happen in front of our own eyes!
Check here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FarhanK501#p/c/5258E19AA2AA7F72/0/-_sqhCVsIMw
And here:
http://tr1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/16020/FREEMASONRY,_THE_SYSTEM_OF_THE_ANTICHRIST,_DENIES_ALLAH_AND_WORSHIPS_SATAN
My Dearest Tun Dr.M
I fully support your effort of assisting the Palestinian, on humanitarian aids. However, I am sure, you have advise them to unite and not to fight amongst them.
Dear Abg. Kamal Ahmad
I have always been fascinated by your observation, ever since I’m hook on Che Det. This posting of yours is most interesting to read. Tun Dr.M’s detractors should read this, especially those who are inclined to do away with the present BN.
Thank you Tun Dr.M & Abg. Kamal.
May Allah, bless us all.
I totally agree with Kamal Ahmad, as a Malaysian I’m really worried where our country’s future is heading.
Many Congratulations to PGPO/VIVA Palestina and their Malaysian supporters especially Tun Dr Mahathir. Tun carries Great Moral authority in the world for his leadership and vision, Tun has forged the great nation of Malaysia, independent and proud still championing the cause of the oppressed around the world. Malaysia Boleh!
Peace should start from our homes. Only when we understand what is real peace can we bring real peace to the world. We are only slapping our own faces when we do something internally which we do not do externally. We might be like the Gazans if we keep hammering on issues which did not matter once upon a donkey time ago. There are many great people in history whom we will always remember. Example is one, Gandhi. Two, Hitler. One led India to independence without violence. The other conquered a lot of land with violence. If they are still living today and if they are the only two great people in the world, many would choose Gandhi. Only when there is peace can you get things done. Without peace, you will only be concentrading on fighting instead of things which bring more advantages. However, events unfolded. Today, Germany has one of the best technology in the world while India is still lacking behind even though possessing some of the best brains. Germans have a more systematic approach to doing things. May be it is because of that their ancestors wanted a strong leader like Hitler. The Nazi soldiers looked very systematic and as if they had one system of doing things. So now we are seeking for a strong leader. The leader can be as strong and good as another leader who is strong and evil. How will these leaders be remembered in history ? No doubt, firstly for their great feats. Next is whether they are seen to be good or seen to be bad. You see, when you read more, you discover that there are many areas to a situation. When you read more, you are able to challenge the existing situation. But if you do not read, you are just following the crowds. A person who is learning every second will ask every second. That is how his intelligence will grow. His intelligence will only reach a certain level if he never asks or never challenges. Just like little kids who only depend on the adults for the answers but never knowing the actual facts for themselves. By the time they think they know, they forgot they are already heavily influenced rather than knowing it for themselves. Sometimes the fear, the disbelieve and the threat are there when confronted with something never before confronted. Like the Gazans, they fight everyday. How do they replace their warriors so quickly ? Do they themselves never think of peace ? How long have they been fighting ? Since the creation of this world. So when will anybody stop fighting ? When the world ends ?
Tok Det
Pandangan saya…..yg boleh mengubah nasib mereka adalah kaum mereka sendiri dan diri mereka sendiri…..sebagai manusia kita boleh membantu…tetapi tidak ada gunanya jika kita membantu sedangkan mereka sendiri tidak mampu untuk memperjuangkan diri sendiri…..Bagi saya akal seseorang manusia mampu memgatasi segala-galanya…..pokok pangkal …..diri sendiri…….kalau kita benar -benar ikhlas berperang kerana agama , negara dan juga bangsa……
sudah pasti akal dan fikiran kita condong kearah yg terbaik utk diri kita…….sebagai manusia saya hanya boleh bersimpati saja….dan menolong dari segi yg mampu sahaja…..cuma saya terfikir…kalau lah saya dilahir kan disana….niat dihati saya hanya satu………sebelum saya mati ….saya akan bunuh seberapa ramai yang saya boleh…..kerana saya tahu….jika saya mati pun …saya akan berada disisi tuhan saya……dan itu adalah yg terbaik dalam hidup saya dan terbaik utk tuhan saya yg pernah saya buat…..
The grand “Malay maverick” can say whatever he likes in his blog, often twisting facts here and there to suit his jaundiced beliefs and prejudices. It is his well known trademark as well as his way of boosting his own ego. For every blog posted, his blind worshippers here would send in hundreds or even thousands of praises such as “Tun, you are great”, “Tun, what a great mind and foresights you have”. This ritual is well established and can be seen in any blog he has posted. The number of his worshippers is big sufficient to drown out less flattering comments such as those given by Mr Hanna and Jericho.
Dearest Tun,
Thanks so much for the information. Congratulations to the team – job well done.
I totally AGREE with item 10. Some people just cannot think rationally.
Tun, please allow me to respond to the following blogger:
To, Jericho on January 12, 2010 1:39 PM
GROW UP! And please write/argue wisely.
** May Allah SWT bless Tun & family **
To: Jericho
Jerusalem has been mentioned many times in the old and new testament. With that you say that Jerusalem belongs to the Jews and it is ok to MURDER, TORCHER and LIE the Palestinians just because Jerusalem has been mentioned in the Bible. This is the first time i have heard of a religion teching it’s followers to commit crime.
And by saying that Jerusalem is not mentioned in the Quran, u should seriously think of pre-school.
Malaysia is one of the beautiful and developed countries which i have visit earlier , my son will study there , Malaysia and other countries are supporting Palestinian case,, but if the subject come to discuss Palestinian refugees problems, everybody will escape and will not support at all ,In Malaysia when they saw my passport which is an Egyptian document for Palestinian refugees , they gave me only 13 days to stay in Malaysia as a tour even i got a visa from Malaysian Embassy , No body in this world want to support the Palestinian refugees and solve their problems ..
assalamualaikum…apa khabar Tun sekarang…saya ingin bertanya berkenaan isu Kalimah “ALLAH” apakah pendapat Tun tentang perkara ini kerana sepanjang pentadbiran Tun, tidak pernah timbul isu ini adakah pentadbiran sekarang etrlalu berlembut dengan isu ini..
It wasnt Muslim (Part 6)
It isn’t Muslims who rule the world by proxy and get others to fight and die for them in wars; it is Jews, whose modus operandi is to select rich host populations that will let them in, pose as their “ally” whilst draining them of hard-earned wealth, employ deception to trick the hosts into fighting poorer nations, and reap the spoils of war such as Afghan opium trafficking, missing Pentagon funds, looting of oil-for-food funds, etc, along with other opportunistic scams such as the $550 billion electronic run on the banks. Note: some reports incorrectly state Thursday September “15”, 2008 for the latter; it should of course be September 11, the Thursday prior to September 15.
It isn’t Muslims who have been expelled from countries on numerous occasions, it is Jews who keep getting kicked out as soon as the host gets wise to the fact that Jews’ only loyalty is to their own tribe, rather than the host nation to whom Jews pose as an “ally”.
It wasn’t Muslims who started a World War in 1914 in the hope that they could successfully launch a hoax about “six million” of their number being killed in order to obtain their own country and net a substantial fraction of global wealth in “reparations”, failed, but also exploited the opportunity to annex and loot Russia and indulge in horrific blood-letting and oppression as a means of settling old scores with the Rus who had chased them westwards from former Khazaria; it was Khazar (fake) ‘Jews’.
It wasn’t Muslims who blew up Francois Duprat’s car killing him and maiming his wife, beat up Dr. Robert Faurisson at least ten times in which his jaw was broken / teeth knocked out / nearly killed several times / hospitalized for weeks and was persecuted in legal battles and had his home raided by police, tried to kill Ernst Zundel on at least three occasions in arson and pipe bomb attacks and had him and Germar Rudolf deported to Germany and jailed for years, beat Jurgen Rieger unconscious and blew up his car, beat up David Cole and threatened to kill him and his family, persecuted and beat Joseph Burg, attacked Frank Walus seven times and nearly killed him in an acid attack, forced Ivan Lagace to resign from his job as a crematory expert after endless threats from thugs claiming to be from the Jewish Defense League, perpetrated numerous terrorist attacks in France including sulfuric acid sprayed into faces / attacks with iron bars / baseball bats / gas sprayed / excrement strewn around, had historian David Irving spend 400 days in jail before being released on Appeal from a three year sentence which was for two speeches and a newspaper interview he gave 16 years earlier, had Dr. Frederick Toben jailed in Germany for ten months for using his Australian website to express his views, and who had dozens more jailed, fined, and financially ruined by character assassination and legal battles; it was Jews attempting to prop up their idiosyncratic brand of “truth” which profited them handsomely for decades.
It wasn’t Muslims who fabricated a hoax about “six million” of their people being “murdered” involving an evidence-free conspiracy theory about a plot to exterminate them in “gas chambers” which netted them – by way of a huge, illegitimate land grab – their own sovereign state, colossal profits in “reparations”, hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign “aid” and “loan guarantees” and waiving / subsidizing of interest payments, etc, and now serves as their “sword and shield” to practice apartheid and kill and oppress their enemies with impunity; it was Jews.
It wasn’t Muslims who were caught red-handed forging fake “smoke” onto wartime photographs of Auschwitz; it was the Simon Wiesenthal Center, whose suitability as guardians of truth is comparable to a choice of Count Dracula as a maintainer of blood banks.
It isn’t Muslim mathematics that holds that the sum of a set of variables a + b + c + d + e… remains constant, e.g. at “six million”, when several variables fluctuate downwards by, say, nearly three million and about half of that, in the absence of any corresponding upwards revision; it is financially and politically motivated Jewish “mathematics”.
It isn’t Muslim physics and chemistry that holds that corpses may be rapidly and economically cremated with between a pound and a kilogram of coke per body when the firebricks of the cremation ovens are not even replaced after some 20,000 cremations (which is rather like expecting a Trabant to be capable of doing 100,000 miles non-stop at 100 mph on 100 gallons of gasoline and a couple of cans of motor oil); it is politically and financially motivated Jewish “physics” and Jewish “chemistry”.
It wasn’t Muslims – or even the “Russian police” – who behave as if they authored The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion; it is International Jewry, and if it hisses like a snake and rattles like a rattlesnake, it isn’t exactly benign.
It is not the “international Muslim” who has much to answer for; it is the international Jew.
The mainstream media�s conspicuous silence over the collapse of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory has clearly exposed them as “the dogs that didn�t bark”.
It wasnt Muslim (part 5)
It wasn’t a Muslim who ordered aides to plan for striking Iraq barely five hours after the Pentagon was attacked on 9/11; it was Donald Rumsfeld.
It wasn’t Muslims who ordered 250 police to smash their way into a house in Forest Gate, London, in the middle of the night and arrest two brothers after shooting one of them in the shoulder, on the basis of intelligence said to be from a “reliable”, single source regarding a conspiracy involving a “cyanide bomb”, with the brothers being released without charge several days later before it was subsequently revealed that the source was a man with an IQ of 69 who was already in jail on a terror conviction; it was Jewish supremacist lackeys MI5, Tony Blair and John Reid.
It isn’t Muslim countries that have hundreds of nuclear warheads and submarines equipped with cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads with a 900-mile range; it is Israel.
It isn’t Muslims that have a powerful political lobby capable of extorting vast sums; it is Israel.
It wasn’t a Muslim who boasted “We Muslims control America, and the Americans know it”; it was Ariel Sharon who boasted “We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it”.
It isn’t Muslims who fake phony “hate crimes” against themselves, such as vandalising their own cars or graves, or poisoning their dogs and defacing their houses with swastikas, or cutting their clothes and drawing swastikas on their stomachs; it is Jews.
It wasn’t Muslims who took control of The New York Times in 1896, or who indeed own and control much of the mainstream media today; it was and is Jews.
It isn’t a Muslim country that crushes peace protesters to death with bulldozers or shoots them, or shells a picnicking family on a beach (and then refuses to own up) when it wants to launch a war within the next three weeks, or warns civilians to flee after blowing up bridges so it can target them like sitting ducks, or shoots at Red Cross ambulances or UN observers after promising they would be safe, or bombs a power station so that more than ten thousand tonnes of crude oil leaks into the Mediterranean as a “collective punishment”; it is Israel.
It isn’t Muslims who routinely employ weapons such as phosphorus shells to inflict grave and horrific injuries on civilians, and who deliberately fire more than a million cluster bomblets of which 40% fail to detonate on impact and 90% are employed in the final three days before a ceasefire so they can “get them all in while the going is good”; it is Israel.
It isn’t a Muslim nation that holds the world record for defying UN resolutions; it is Israel.
It wasn’t Muslims who ganged up on a handicapped Jew for hiking on his own land, beat him with clubs, dragged him along the ground, tied him to a power pole and continued to beat and kick him as Muslim soldiers did nothing to stop it and police merely advised the thugs to pour water on the victim’s head to wash away the blood before journalists and photographers arrived; it was a gang of four cowardly, bigoted Jewish settlers who beat up a handicapped Palestinian with impunity, basking in the knowledge that Jewish soldiers and police would not act impartially, and even returning a week later to torment the neighbors, ransacking their home and destroying their few possessions.
It wasn’t Muslim soldiers who beat up and killed a Jew with clubs and rifle butts and kicks to the head and then, after an ‘investigation’, concluded that the soldiers had “acted properly”; it was the Israeli “Defense” Forces who smashed three holes in a Palestinian teenager’s skull killing him as he merely waited at a bus stop, continuing to beat him as he lay unconscious, then made up a story about him “pulling a knife” and suggested that he was “mentally unstable” in a case that is sadly all too typical of violence perpetrated by racist, bigoted right-wing extremist Jewish supremacists upon those whom they perceive as “animals in human form”.
It wasn’t Muslims who created a global organization named the “Anti Defamation League” in order to defend Muslim criminals by playing the race card and accusing their pursuers of being “racists” and “anti-Semites” who were guilty of “hate crimes”; it was Jews who set up the Anti Defamation League of B’nai B’rith in response to the lynching of Leo Frank, president of the Atlanta chapter of the B’nai B’rith Jewish secret society who had been convicted of murdering 13-year-old Mary Phagan who worked at Frank’s pencil factory, with the lynching of Frank being in response to the commuting of his death sentence to life imprisonment after organized Jewry had tried to cast doubt on Frank’s conviction by shifting the blame to a black man even though ritual murder is a known Jewish tradition, the ADL being used thereafter to denounce anti-criminals as “anti-Semites” whenever the criminals happened to be Jews.
It isn’t Muslims who, for political and financial gain, demolished the World Trade Center with nano-thermite and crashed remote-controlled planes into it in order to set up a hoax about “Jewish kamikaze pilots” and then attempt to throw researchers off the scent by pretending to “investigate” the demolitions whilst ‘accidentally’ plumping for the wrong hypothesis (e.g. H-bombs rather than thermite), and then stubbornly refuse to change to a hypothesis that is in accordance with the evidence; it is Jews who set up a hoax about “Muslim kamikaze pilots” and have their deliberately misleading ‘work’ about the demolitions hosted at sites that are owned and edited by Jews.
It wasn’t Muslims who practised pseudo-science by refusing to look for Iron Blue at Auschwitz or explosives at the World Trade Center, in order that their ‘investigation’ would come up with the required financially and politically motivated result; it was Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, and Jerzy Labedz of the Jan Sehn Institute at Krakow (Auschwitz fraud), and “scientists” and “engineers” at NIST (WTC fraud).
It wasn’t Muslims who took over the “investigation” of the World Trade Center collapses when FEMA were making a hash of the cover up, mixed up Figures 11-51 and 11-52 in NCSTAR1-9Vol2 on their WTC7 report which was published two days after the mysterious death of eyewitness Barry Jennings whose testimony of explosions in WTC7 before either Tower had collapsed – note he specifically says (4:43) “I was trapped in there when both buildings came down” – blew their politically motivated assumptions and conclusions apart, failed to spot their mistake in their accompanying description, assumed unrealistically high gas temperatures in order to derive their required unrealistically high steel temperatures, published a preposterous hypothesis of a “thermal-expansion”-based collapse with the logical conclusion that the 180 kip shear capacity of four bolts in a seated connection would be exceeded if the steel heated up from 20 C to 32 C making the force to completely resist the thermal expansion 191 kip, irrespective of the fact that no steel-framed high-rises had ever collapsed due to “fires” or “impacts” apart from the three that allegedly did so on 9/11, claimed inward bowing of the WTC1 perimeter columns between floors 94 to 100 peaking at 55 inches at column 316 on the 96th floor which could not be reconciled with the fact that the columns’ moment of inertia or second moment of area was at least 342 ins^4 along the minor axis and a maximum deflection of 55 inches given fixed – fixed boundary conditions and a distributed load would have required the failure within 102 minutes of at least ten consecutive floors, many of which did not have any fireproofing ‘dislodged’ by a plane and did not even experience substantial fires; it was NIST, whose top scientists and engineers have extensive knowledge of nano-thermites, but said they had found “no evidence” of explosives at the WTC and later admitted that they had not bothered to look for any. The 9/11 perpetrators had to ensure those in charge of the “investigation” were aware of that which they must not find.
It wasn’t a Muslim who announced on Sunday September 16, 2001 that a “hijacker’s passport” (allegedly that of Satam al Suqami) had been found “several blocks from the ruins of the World Trade Center”, with other reports asserting that the passport was found “in the vicinity of Vesey Street”; it was former Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who was indicted November 2007 on multiple counts including lying, fraud and conspiracy, which is consistent with the fact that the laws of aerodynamics dictate that the passport should have been found in the vicinity of Liberty Street, the scriptwriter forgot that Suqami was supposed to be on Flight AA11 approaching from the north, and, of several attempts made by the authorities to guess where the passport should have been found, not one of them was correct!
It wasn’t Muslims who had JFK killed; it was Jews.
It wasn’t Muslims who stole elections by exploiting electronic voting machines that biased the results such that the odds for several swing states to swing as much as they did from the exit polls was 250 million to one against; it was George W. Bush.
It isn’t Muslims who exhibit traits of supremacist megalomaniacs by referring to their enemies as “grasshoppers”, “beasts”, “crocodiles” and “cockroaches”; it is Jews.
It wasn’t a Muslim who set up a Ponzi scheme that netted $50 billion; it was a Jew.
It wasn’t Muslims who made a record about doing “The Wall Street Shuffle” and whose other songs included scatological references; it was Jews.
It wasnt Muslim (part 4)
It wasn’t Muslims who had a motive for employing a “Flight Termination System” to take control of EgyptAir Flight 990 – a Boeing 767 – on October 31, 1999 (after a bizarre coincidence in which “air crash victims grief counselor” Ed McLaughlin of the Family Enterprise Institute was the only person to board the ill-fated plane in Los Angeles and get off at New York), send it plunging into the Atlantic 60 miles south of Nantucket killing all 217 on board, none of whom were Israelis but 33 of the casualties were Egyptian army officers including two Air Force brigadier generals and two army major generals, and promote the concept of “Muslim suicide pilots” to a gullible public; it was Jews who would have needed to conduct a trial run of electronically hijacking in-flight Boeing aircraft for their imminent false-flag terror operation that was to be blamed on “Muslim suicide pilots / hijackers”, with the EgyptAir Flight 990 “inquiry” being overseen by Zionist Jew Bernard Loeb who had Jewish translators transcribe the cockpit recordings, and the FBI conducting a character assassination to smear the alleged “suicidal” co-pilot.
It wasn’t Muslims who wrote in 1998 of a “transforming event” rather like “Pearl Harbor”; it was John Deutsch, Ashton Carter and Philip Zelikow.
It wasn’t a Muslim who served as Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, whose expertise and job entailed the creation and maintenance of public myths or “presumptions”, and who confirmed that the Iraq war had been for Israel’s benefit; it was Philip Zelikow.
It wasn’t Muslims who published a paper in 1996 entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, which mentioned “removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq” and introduced the concept of pre-emptive strikes for which some phony pretext such as halting drug money or striking counterfeiting infrastructure or “weapons of mass destruction” could be devised that Americans would sympathise with; it was The Institute for Advanced Strategic & Political Studies (IASPS) of Jerusalem and Washington which, for new Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu, discussed how such a policy would benefit Israel.
It wasn’t a Muslim who, in a 1995 book, predicted that “if the West doesn�t wake up to the suicidal nature of militant Islam, the next thing you will see is militant Islam is bringing down the World Trade Center”; it was Benjamin Netanyahu.
It wasn’t Muslim security officials who, in 1991, inspected the garage of a Muslim shipping company in the World Trade Center and concluded that the WTC garage was vulnerable to a car bomb, two years before the WTC garage was in fact hit by a car bomb and the FBI were aware of the plot yet let it go ahead killing six people and injuring more than a thousand, and ten years before the WTC was demolished one week after the very same shipping company had moved out of the WTC; it was Israeli security officials and an Israeli shipping company.
It wasn’t Muslims who paid Ali al-Jarrah more than $300,000 for services rendered, i.e., posing as a “supporter” of the Palestinian cause while betraying his country to an enemy state, and who was a cousin of Ziad al-Jarrah who was alleged to be one of nineteen 9/11 “suicide hijackers”; it was Israel that paid this Mossad asset.
It wasn’t Muslims who 1) broadcast the pilot episode on March 4, 2001 of The Lone Gunmen TV series, an episode about a plot by a secret cabal within the US government to electronically hijack by remote control a Boeing heading for Boston and divert it to crash into the World Trade Center 2) said in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks that no one had ever conceived of aircraft being used by terrorists as missiles to target buildings; it was 1) Fox TV, owned by Rupert Murdoch, a long-time friend of Benjamin Netanyahu 2) National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice / acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers / President George W. Bush / Vice President Dick Cheney / White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.
It wasn’t a Muslim who said he’d seen the (first) plane hit the (North) Tower and reckoned it must have been “one terrible pilot” and “a horrible accident” before going into a classroom and subsequently being informed of the second impact when the first impact was not broadcast live on TV; it was George W. Bush.
It wasn’t Muslims who, on Tuesday, October 2 through Friday, October 5, 2001: 1) met with, and 2) received $3 million in gifts for “funds for victims” from Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifah Al-Thani, the Emir of Qatar who started the Al Jazeera channel in 1996 with a $150 million grant, the channel which broadcasts audios and videos purporting to be of “Osama bin Laden” aka Emmanuel Goldstein; it was: 1) George W. Bush, Dick Cheney (an “old friend”) – Cheney also met the Emir on October 20, 2001 to discuss the “Osama” interviews, Rudy Giuliani, Colin Powell, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Myers 2) Rudy Giuliani, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Myers.
It wasn’t Muslims who fabricated a fairy story about Pfc. Jessica Lynch being ambushed, stabbed, shot, bravely continuing to shoot Iraqis, being abused, raped, and held captive in a hospital by Iraqi guards, and later rescued by elite US forces; it was “unnamed US officials” who lied, since in fact there was no “rescue”, Lynch’s gun had jammed with sand, she was being cared for by the Iraqis after being injured in a car crash, she had no “bullet holes” or “knife wounds”, the hospital was not “under guard”, and doctors had even tried to return Lynch to US forces themselves.
It wasn’t Muslims who conspired to invade a defenseless nation by lying about “weapons of mass destruction” (“WMDs”) when they had already made up their minds to invade for “regime change”, resulting in excess Iraqi deaths estimated at 655,000 to one million, the displacement of more than four million, the sacrifice of thousands of troops and throwing away of $3 trillion to no avail save for enriching a few war criminals and profiteers to the tune of billions of dollars in this proxy war for Israel; it was George W. Bush and Tony Blair.
It wasnt Muslim (Part 3)
It wasn’t Muslims who profited by speculating on airline and insurance stocks in advance of 9/11; it was Israelis.
It wasn’t Muslims who concocted a hoax about pork-swilling, money-eschewing, celibate, truthful, courageous, pro-animal rights, “devout Jews” who were “suicide hijackers / pilots”, almost half of whom later turned up alive and well; it was Jews who concocted a hoax about drinking, gambling, strip joint-frequenting, womanizing, “devout Muslims” who were “suicide hijackers / pilots”, almost half of whom later turned up alive and well.
It wasn’t a Muslim who was a former unit team leader in an elite special forces unit and whose father was a senior aide, secretary and pallbearer to a man who in 1937 was commander of the Irgun Tzvai Leumi, a Jewish terrorist organization responsible for atrocities such as the King David Hotel bombing; it was Benjamin Netanyahu.
It wasn’t a Muslim who was the mentor of Benjamin Netanyahu’s father Benzion and who wrote a column in the Revisionist Zionist magazine Doar Hayom under the title “From the Notebook of a Fascist”, praising Mussolini and referring to one-time commander of the Irgun Ze’ev (Vladimir) Jabotinsky as “our Duce”; it was Abba Ahimeir the founder of Revisionist Maximalism, a Jewish fascist ideology.
It wasn’t Muslim terrorists who plotted to assassinate British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin; it was Jewish terrorists.
It wasn’t Muslims who orchestrated, and whose operatives were caught red-handed in, a failed false-flag terrorist campaign in Egypt; it was Israel.
It wasn’t Muslims who attacked the USS Liberty killing 34 Americans, and had the US President saying “I don’t give a damn if every man drowns and the ship sinks. I don’t want to embarrass our allies”; it was Israel.
It wasn’t Muslims who were evacuated “apparently due to a specific security threat” in advance of the Amman, Jordan terror attacks on November 9, 2005 (9/11 by Israeli and European calendars), which included a blast at the Radisson hotel that was known to have emanated from a bomb hidden in a false ceiling, even though the official story held that it was really the work of “suicide bombers” and therefore by some bizarre coincidence the ceiling bomb must have been placed there previously by someone else; it was Israelis who were evacuated in advance of these attacks in which there were no Jewish casualties, most of the dead were Jordanian Sunni Muslims, two Israeli casualties were both Arabs, and five Palestinians died including Major-General Bashir Nafeh, the head of military intelligence in the West Bank.
It wasn’t Muslims who were caught and arrested inside the Mexican Congress chamber on October 10, 2001 in possession of guns, grenades, dynamite, detonators and wiring while posing as “press photographers”; it was Mossad agent Salvador Guersson Smecke and Israeli illegal immigrant Saur Ben Zvi at the very time that Zionists would obtain maximum benefit from a false-flag terror attack that would mobilize support for the war on “Muslim terrorists” in Afghanistan that had been launched only three days previously.
It wasn’t Muslims who were convicted and jailed for six months in 2004 for fraudulently attempting to obtain a New Zealand passport in the name of a tetraplegic man; it was Mossad agents Uriel Kelman and Eli Cara who were seeking to create a false identity for Zev Barkan.
It wasn’t Muslims who claimed to know the identity of “suicide hijackers” Abdulaziz al-Omari and Saeed al-Ghamdi when, since individuals with the exact same names and other personal details such as birth date, place and occupation subsequently turned up alive and well, the population of Saudi Arabia in 1975 was 7,180,000 and even given a high annual birth rate of 30 per 1,000 and ignoring infant mortality the daily birth rate was only 590 and so it is highly improbable that individuals would share the exact same name, birth date, place and occupation, al-Omari’s passport had been stolen in 1995 when his apartment was burgled in Denver, Colorado (a state where Mossad agents have been active), and only utter cretins would steal the identities of people with a different appearance but having their exact same name, place, date of birth and occupation, ergo those hypothetical “suicide hijackers” would have had entirely different names; it was the FBI who published a list claiming that the 9/11 perpetrators included Abdulaziz al-Omari and Saeed al-Ghamdi in addition to several others who had turned up alive and well, and even though the FBI admitted that some hijackers may have used stolen identities and that there is “no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers,” they denied having misidentified the alleged “suicide hijackers” and refused to change the names, photographs or backgrounds on their list – albeit obfuscating and trying to cover themselves by including multiple spellings and aliases.
It wasn’t Muslims who were behind a failed coup in Turkey; it was crypto-Jew and Mossad agent pseudo-Rabbi Tuncay Guney, who fled to Canada in 2004, and who in 2001 lived in New Jersey towns that were centers of activity for Mossad Urban Moving Systems operatives.
It wasn’t Muslims who set up an “al Qaeda cell” in Palestine; it was the Israeli Mossad.
It wasn’t Muslims who had established a reputation for having the capability to stage false-flag terror attacks, i.e., to target U.S. forces and make it look like the act of a third party, prior to 9/11; it was the Mossad.
It wasn’t a Muslim who infiltrated the Pentagon and betrayed his country of birth by selling classified documents to another country that were then traded to the USSR; it was convicted spy Jonathan Pollard whose treachery resulted in stolen nuclear secrets being passed on to the USSR with Israel as the paying intermediary.
It wasn’t Muslims who were running an exercise commencing at 9:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11 involving a plane crashing into a tower; it was officials at the National Reconnaissance Office, Chantilly, VA.
It wasn’t a Muslim who, in response to the question “Do the orders still stand?” regarding the response – or more precisely, the lack of response – to an aircraft that was rapidly homing in on the Pentagon and ten miles out after both of the Twin Towers had already been hit by planes more than half an hour previously, whipped his neck around and replied “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?”; it was Dick Cheney.
It wasn’t a Muslim who was CEO of a company that made remote control “Flight Termination Systems” that could electronically hijack in-flight aircraft and steer them into targets by means of a “Command Transmitter System”; it was Rabbi Dov Zakheim.
It wasn’t a Muslim who, well aware that a percentage of trillions of dollars is still hundreds of billions of dollars, took a position as Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001 when it was already public knowledge that the Pentagon’s accounting systems were in complete disarray with $6.9 trillion of “adjustments” having been required in an attempt to make the figures add up, and with no receipts for $2.3 trillion of these hard to track changes on non-integrated computer systems and antiquated paperwork that could be readily taken out by a missile or plane strike on the relevant auditing section at the Pentagon, and who subsequently delivered a commemorative sermon on the Pentagon lawn to hundreds of co-religionists from 40 countries six months after such a terror strike did in fact occur killing at least 34 budget analysts / accountants / financial experts; it was Rabbi Dov Zakheim.
It wasn’t a Muslim who was at a breakfast meeting with Donald Rumsfeld when the first plane hit the WTC, and was at the Army Navy Country Club “when the plane that hit the Pentagon came right over the top of the Army Navy Club and bounced down the hill and hit the side of the Pentagon”; it was Thomas E. White, who is linked to the Enron fraud, who participated in JINSA trips to Israel, e.g. with his wife Susan in 1997, and who was sworn in as Secretary of the Army on May 31, 2001 which is 27 days after George W Bush appointed Rabbi Dov Zakheim as Undersecretary of Defense and Comptroller of the Pentagon, both White and Zakheim having been placed by Bush at the Pentagon where more than $2 trillion of transactions had no receipts and Pentagon finances were vulnerable to a “terror attack” that would target the appropriate auditing section.
It wasn’t Muslims who in 2000 co-authored a document which called for a “new Pearl Harbor”; it was Roger Barnett, Alvin Bernstein, Stephen Cambone, Eliot Cohen, Devon Gaffney Cross, Thomas Donnelly, David Epstein, David Fautua, Dan Goure, Donald Kagan, Fred Kagan, Robert Kagan, Robert Killebrew, William Kristol, Mark Lagon, James Lasswell, I. Lewis Libby, Robert Martinage, Phil Meilinger, Mackubin Owens, Steve Rosen, Gary Schmitt, Abram Shulsky, Michael Vickers, Barry Watts, Paul Wolfowitz, and Rabbi Dov Zakheim.
It wasnt Muslim (Part 2)
It wasn’t over a hundred Muslims who, from around January 2000 to September 2001, posed as “art students” and attempted to penetrate US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) offices and other federal buildings including 36 sensitive Department of Defense (DoD) sites, were caught with diagrams of the interior of federal buildings and photographs of federal agents and often evaded security by entering through back doors or parking garages, and even visited the homes of senior federal officials but not those of their neighbors; it was Israelis, none of whom were “art students” but many of whom had backgrounds in Israeli military intelligence. Not surprisingly, the Press went for a limited hangout by trying to pretend the Israelis were merely shadowing “Arab hijackers” and either failed to pass on information, or “it was not treated seriously”, the old canard about “intelligence failure”. The operations of the Israeli fake “art students” is well documented, including plenty of names and even descriptions. An unusually large number of these Israelis were located in Irving, Dallas, TX (p.23, previous link), which is about ten miles west of Tom Leppert’s Alva Court home, which is barely more than a mile north of the Dallas home that George W. Bush moved into after leaving office.
It isn’t Muslim countries that have a massive spy ring in the USA capable of tapping into much of the telecoms network and using information obtained to blackmail Americans; it is Israel.
It wasn’t Muslims who received advance warning on Monday September 10, 2001, against flying the next day; it was San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, and a group of top Pentagon officials.
It wasn’t Muslims who acquired a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers, Buildings Four and Five and approximately 400,000 square feet of retail space, and insured for billions of dollars against terror attacks a mere six weeks before terror attacks did in fact occur, and then employed (to press for the insurance claim) a ‘structural engineer’ who misleadingly asserts that steel loses half its strength at “400 degrees”; it was – in a deal negotiated by Lewis Eisenberg of the Port Authority – Benjamin Netanyahu’s (and Ariel Sharon’s and Ehud Barak’s) friend Larry Silverstein and his partner Australian billionaire and “Holocaust survivor” Frank Lowy who fought “in the Jewish underground”, was embroiled in a high-level bank corruption scandal with Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert and found to be making payments to Lord (Michael Abraham) Levy who was arrested several times in relation to a “cash for honors” scandal, Levy being a “tennis partner” and advisor of Tony Blair.
It isn’t Muslims who have a reputation for perpetrating arson scams in order to claim off insurance companies as evidenced by any colloquial use of the term “Muslim lightning”; it is Jews as evidenced by the recognized term “Jewish lightning”.
It wasn’t Muslims who normally breakfasted at the Windows on the World restaurant on the 106th and 107th floors of the North Tower, but by some bizarre coincidence did not happen to be there on 9/11 and were thus spared the fate of occupants on that tragic day (none of whom escaped from the floors above the aircraft impact at 8:46 AM); it was Larry Silverstein who was spared due to having a “dermatologist’s appointment”, an event which also spared his two children who worked at Silverstein Properties.
It wasn’t a Muslim who went on TV within hours of the attacks to tell everyone that “It… certainly has the fingerprints of somebody like bin Laden” and the World Trade Center had collapsed because of “the velocity of the plane” and “intense heat probably weakened the structure as well”, and who reportedly on that very day advised the White House to take Cipro, an effective antibiotic against anthrax, seven days before the commencement of an anthrax letters terror campaign targeted at Democratic U.S. Senators and news media offices, who on 9/11/01 was a managing director of the crisis and consequence management group at Kroll Associates, who was an advisor to the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) regarding “epidemiological surveillance” and national security advisor at the National Institute of Health (NIH), and who gave his ‘friend’ John O’Neill a job as Head Of Security at the World Trade Center; it was Jerome Hauer.
It wasn’t Muslims who carried out a terror campaign mailing letters containing anthrax spores that had their electrostatic charge altered so that they would disperse more readily, anthrax that was traced to the weapons grade Ames strain originating at the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, neither was it the FBI’s final “suspect” Roman Catholic Bruce Ivins, who, unlike the true perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, had no motive to target news media and Opposition Senators and thereby scare them into uncritical acceptance of the “Arab hijackers” conspiracy theory. Ivins died of an overdose and alleged “suicide” in July 2008 after the FBI gave up attempting to pin the blame on Steven Hatfill because there was not a scintilla of evidence against him; a logical suspect is Philip M. Zack who left Fort Detrick under a cloud in December 1991 after having headed a clique calling itself the “Camel Club” that was racially harassing Egyptian-born Dr. Ayaad Assaad. Zack was found by a 1992 inquiry to have been caught on surveillance camera being let into a Fort Detrick lab building at 8:40 p.m. on Jan. 23, 1992 apparently by Dr. Marian Rippy, a lab pathologist and close friend of Zack. The inquiry also found someone had been in a lab late at night secretly conducting unauthorised research, evidently on anthrax believed to include the Ames strain. Nearly ten years on, during the week between 9/11 and the commencement of the anthrax campaign, the FBI received an anonymous letter attempting to frame Dr. Assaad as a “bioterrorist”. The anthrax letters seemed contrived so as to appear to have been written by a Muslim, and a New York Times writer told of a “Mr. Z.” who failed some FBI polygraph tests and was once caught with a girlfriend at Fort Detrick “surrounded only by blushing germs”.
It wasn’t a Muslim who was claimed to have been killed on the alleged American Airlines “Flight 77”, to have lived at Silver Spring, Maryland (as did a certain Rabbi Dr. Dov Zakheim), and to have worked on top-secret “deep-black” projects at the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC-IH), a “renowned leader in energetics” which operates an “Energetics Manufacturing Technology Center”, carries out “advanced research in energetic systems” and “absorbed the function of the closed Naval Ordnance Laboratory, formerly in White Oak, MD” which is a couple miles from Silver Spring; it was William E. Caswell.
It wasn’t Muslims who were claimed to have been killed on the alleged “Flight 77” and who worked for government or defense, particularly the Navy; it was John Yamnicky who, strangely, for the first time did not tell his daughter that he was going on travel, and who, like William Caswell, had worked for the Navy on top-secret “black” projects. Others included Charles Burlingame, a former Navy fighter pilot who used to work in the section of the Pentagon that was hit and who had formulated a response for the eventuality of an airliner being flown into the Pentagon and whose daughter Wendy subsequently died in a “suspicious fire” at a 50-story high-rise in New Jersey in December 2006, Wilson “Bud” Flagg, a retired American Airlines pilot and Navy Admiral, Stanley Hall, an expert in anti-radar technology and a director of program management at Raytheon, Bryan Jack, a senior executive and top budget analyst who worked at the Pentagon, Chandler Keller, a Boeing propulsion engineer, Dong Lee, a Boeing engineer who worked for their Integrated Defense Systems and who had worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) for 14 years, Barbara Olson, CNN commentator and wife of the US Solicitor General who claimed to have received cell phone calls from “Flight 77”, Ruben Ornedo, a Boeing propulsion / satellite communications engineer, Robert Penniger, an electrical engineer with BAE Systems, and another dozen alleged “Flight 77 passengers” who were linked to defense and government who, we are told, all just happened to be on this unusually low occupancy flight. These people, well loved and respected as honest, decent heroes, are the very sort of characters whose work could have been horrifically exploited without their knowledge, and whom the 9/11 perpetrators would need to eliminate to prevent them speaking out after the attacks.
Hanan & jericho
Dont think people are so dumb and naive. The anti-christ has a PHD in deception. In this end times reality is opposite to appearance.How long do you think you people can rattle on with your monstrous lies?
IT WASN’T MUSLIMS (part 1)
With a peer-reviewed scientific journal having published “loaded gun” (i.e. unreacted nano-thermite) evidence finally proving beyond doubt that World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7 were brought down in a series of controlled demolitions, here are a few more facts to consider.
It wasn’t Muslims in an Afghan cave who had access to highly energetic nano-thermites; it was the US military and government scientists such as those connected with NIST.
It wasn’t Muslims who ran a construction company that was awarded a $124 million contract for construction of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) headquarters in Washington, DC, which oversees the Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC-IH), which was described during the 1990s as the “National Center for Energetics”, the military’s term for “explosives work”, and as of 1999-2000 the “only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States”; it was Tom Leppert who was CEO of Turner Construction as of 9/11/01, and who even writes parts of Presidential speeches.
It wasn’t Muslims who ran a construction company that had supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post 9/11 collection and disposal of the steel wreckage of the WTC towers, and carried out extensive renovations throughout the World Trade Center complex right up to the morning of 9/11 including fireproofing upgrades on the floors that were struck by planes and subsequently “failed”, when the steel had already been certified to ASTM E119 by Universal Laboratories, and, in tests sponsored by NIST on corresponding floor assemblies subjected to greater heat exposure and protected with less fireproofing than was the case at the WTC, the test specimens “were able to sustain the maximum design load” without collapsing for as long as the tests were run (2 to 3 1/2 hours); it was Tom Leppert who was CEO of Turner Construction as of 9/11/01 and received a Torch of Conscience award from the American Jewish Congress.
It wasn’t Muslims who trained their cameras on the World Trade Center Towers prior to the first aircraft impact, who danced and celebrated with high fives prior to the second impact as most onlookers still believed it had been a terrible accident rather than terrorism, and who were caught with foreign passports, $4,700 in cash hidden in a sock, maps highlighting certain places in the city, and a van that tested positive for traces of explosives; it was Israelis Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner, and Omer Marmari, several of whom have been confirmed as Mossad agents, as part of their job in “documenting the event”.
It wasn’t Muslims who were caught on 9/11/01 operating in teams with vans full of explosives, including one team who attempted to blow up the George Washington Bridge with a truck packed with tons of explosives, and another who blew up a van between 6th and 7th on King Street with a mural painted of a remote controlled airplane diving into New York and blowing up; it was Israelis, which is why the authorities did their best to ignore and bury these reports which included a suspected van bomb driven into the WTC basement and exploded to weaken the structure.
It wasn’t Muslims who were caught shortly after midnight on May 7, 2002 very close to the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, Oak Harbor, Wash., (where the Navy conducts explosive ordnance training for bomb disposal mobile units to the consternation of local marine life) with a rental truck that tested positive for TNT and RDX plastic explosives; it was Israelis whose cover story was of “delivering furniture” but regarded by authorities as dubious because of the early morning hour, and the authorities’ subsequent claim that the dog’s reaction and initial tests for explosives were wrong is so full of holes that it merely demonstrates the power of the Israeli lobby.
It wasn’t Muslims who were in New York on 9/11 and in London on the morning of the 7/7 attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu and Rudy Giuliani.
It wasn’t Muslims who received advance warning of the London 7/7 attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu and the Mossad.
It wasn’t Muslims who provided two hours’ advance warning of an attack on the World Trade Center via an instant messaging company based in Herzliya; it was Israelis.
It wasn’t a Muslim who fled the US on September 14, 2001; it was Dominick Suter of “Urban Moving Systems” who fled to Israel.
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat sejahtera sentiasa. Kiriman saya untuk mengisi ruang tajuk ini…….
………SYMPATHY FOR MISERY
Chedet blog can help in this area by focusing more on this than on Pak Lah, Allah, Anwar, Singapura, jambatan yg tak ada. Direct the many supporters energy here to Gaza than to get gung ho on race, religion and rights.
Organize how to use Muslims huge zakat funds to help Muslims in Gaza than spending on snoop squads, financing organizations that breathe fire over a word but dare not volunteer to Gaza. Advise Muslims here there is more
Stones hurled at Sentul Sikh temple KL – Malaysia not out of the woods. This has nothing to do with religion but it is pure political driven act. They want a reaction but the church people are not reacting as they hoped. Now they are going to hit other religion hoping for a violent reaction. They want chaos in Selangor. So lets not give these demons the satisfaction. Be smart, do not resort to violence. Get registered as a voter.
jericho your wits and your vote is the best weapons against these idiots. They want Selangor in chaos. You and your friends must give them the message it will not work.
Tun,
If you are so concern about the People of Gaza, will you give everything of yours including your two sons wealth to them? Words only not enough!
Tun,
There are good and bad people in this world, jews or non-jews . Things that you mentioned and written are right but not necessary good as it may cause more problems rather than helping those unfortunate people.
Why must you always bring religion and race into every subject of yours? Why must you always compare Muslim and Non-Muslim? Nothing is this world is fair! The powerful always win! That is why everyone wants to be powerful and influential. If you want to compare then you should ask yourself, why you become PM and not me or Anwar or someone walking along the road? You did what you have to do to be PM, right? The same goes to the people in Middle-east or any part of the world.
Stop putting more fuel and fire into a ready bad situation. Many of current hot issues in Malaysia are fan by your comments. You can cause civil unrest. Stop attacking or pointing mistake of Pak Lah, we already know he is not a good PM. We need to move-on.
It is not only the Jews and Israel that are doing bad things to the people of Gaza, everyone and every country is doing bad things to the people of Gaza but there are also Jews or people doing good things too.
PEACE, SHARE, LOVE AND LIVE
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Mungkin Gaza pun tak dapat luahkan bagaimana sebenarnya yang mereka rasa.Mungkin ada hikmahnya apa yang berlaku di Palestin.
Urusan Allah yang kita tidak ketahui.Umpama menaiki LRT.Kita cuma boleh berhenti apabila pemandu berhenti.Bagaimana boleh kita menentukan LRT berhenti untuk kita?
Cuma kita boleh menggunakan LRT untuk ke sesuatu tempat.Hopefully,kita akan sampai.
Terima kasih Tun.
YABhg Tun,
We’ve done our best and our part to lessen other peoples sufferings….
I believe that’s the most important thing sir….
True indeed, Sir.
Back to our beloved country, the religous dispute that we are witnessing now is appaling. It is imperative to enforce ISA. It is also important at the same time to make the people aware that at times like this, we need ISA to be implemented to deter the attack on churches whuch could lead to attack on mosques and others.
I watched BBC the other day about the attack on churches. As usual, it looks bad. More important thing that I want to highlight is, in the interview, Teresa Kok mentioned that (as I understand) Muslim religious leaders should come out and tell the Muslims not to carry out terrorist attack. This is bad. What she did not mention is the fact that the Christian leaders need to be more sensitive and discerning to prevent this from happening and not to make any suggetsion which could impose a serious public unrest in our country. Why a Chinese judge, who I assume is a Chritian, was assigned to preside a matter concerning a dispute between Muslim and Christian is another question that needs to be answered.
Thanks Sir.
BERSEKUTU BERTAMBAH MUTU
Assallammualaikum warahmatullah hi waba rokatuh..
Semoga di izinkan Tun..
[nazri..abdul malik..]
Saya amat kesal dengan anda..Selagi orang-orang kafir ( ingkar ) tidak letih-letih untuk mengusik orang-orang Islam..maka kami juga tidak akan letih-letih untuk mempertahankan Islam..
Jericho,Hanan and all of you whom are alike..
In your religion,faith and believe..there is no such thing as sacred..
In Islam..all Allah and Nabi Muhammad s.a.w related’s issues are sacred..So..you have no ideas why Muslim are so sensitive in thing’s all sacred..
You poke Muslims faith and conscience with reason’s known only to you and your brethren..
The enormity of your thought and action’s escape beyond your mere comprehension..
If you care to know..just asks..If you wonder why Muslim’s reacted the way they do..just look at your own action first..
I believe they just act in accordance and correspondingly..
The real issue’s I believe is the proportioned and measure’s of response’s towards the first motion in adherence
For every motion..there is equal and opposite reaction’s..
..That..is what the issue’s should be all about..moderating the intensity of response where force of violence is concerns..
Terima kasih Tun..
Kemenangan Nabi Muhammad s.a.w dalam memperjuangkan Islam
bukan kerana balah tenteranya yg hebat,
bukan kerana senjatanya yg canggih,
beliau tak ada F-18,atau Weapons OF Mass Destruction.
Kemenangan beliau adalah kerana Akhlak Beliau yg Mulia,
melembutkan hati musuh,mengIslamkan musuh,memberi kemenangan pada Islam.
Senjata apakah yg kita perlukan sekarang !
hanan, talk is cheap and you may portray “hero-like” in your log but that’s all you can do. why not bring all your “followers” and we’ll bring our “followers” and we’ll show you the end result! ok?
Salam kasih dan salam hormat Ayahanda Tun, and please do forgive me as I am about to verge off-course again with my observations.
If we observe how the underprivileged value their existence and survival, we could draw a conclusion that they are always contented with their daily labor. They know it
WORLD WAR ONE CASUALTIES (WWI) European casualties: 15-25 MILLION DEATHS
References:
U.S. War Dept. in Feb. 1924, amended by the Statistical Services Center, Office of the Secretary of Defense on 7 Nov. 1957, ( Brzezinski, Britannica, Norman Davies, Encarta, Gilbert, Hammond, Small & Singer, Wallechinsky)
WORLD WAR TWO (WWII): European CASUALTIES: 40-55 MILLION DEATHS
References:
Haywood: Atlas of World History (1997): 50M
Keegan, J., The Second World War (1989): 50M
Messenger, The Chronological Atlas of World War Two (1989): 50M
The Times Concise Atlas of World History (1988): 50M
J.M. Roberts, Twentieth Century (1999): >50M
Dictionary of Military History (1994): 41M
Wallechinsky: 40-55M
Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978): 55M
Hammond: 55M
Guiness World Records: 56.4M [http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/index.asp?id=46252]
Sivard, Ruth Leger, World Military and Social Expenditures
Brzezinski:
If we are to follow the flawed logic of people like Jericho and others
I believe what the people of Gaza told Perdana Global Peace Organization (PGPO) instead of Hanan’s acclamation that they are all a “BIG LIE”.
Hi, Tun & Others
Hanan, Jericho and others whom has something in common…
Causing :
a)8 churches burnt over the kalimah Allah issue = WRONG
b)Gaza people suffer because of continuing rocket & mortar shelling to Israelis by Hamas =WRONG
Both are Wrong if we look at the single perspective..if only onto these 2 naked items..Can we just think further??.
Anyway, to correlate a) & b) is simply STUPID..To condemned whoever support the works to reduce Gaza people suffer is rather EVIL..
Specific to Hanan
Majority of us(Malaysian Muslim) don’t have any problem with living together with Christian..Can you people done better than us?..for example only 10 mosque in Palestine being put on fire with no casualty(oopps..I’ve to explain that I’m being sarcastic here..if not as usual you’ll twist it). I seriously condemn people who set that church on fire but I will never twist my statement and keep on confusing people like you do..To me the way you think is no different with a terrorist(the mastermind)..
Why you bother Dr M so much? He’s not running this country anymore..
Regards & Peace
HRS
people like jerico will never understand what is tolerance n d importance of peace in malaysia…if u do know,u wont give such a selfish and nonsensical comment…may Allah SWT protect us who never intend to harm others…ISLAM is all about peace…so, dun ever try to make a chaos situation…enough with all racial issues n now religion issue???cant u people who started this, go home n think properly, your way is just disgusting…4ever!!!
Dear Tun,
As a human being, i am sad and totally against any wars in this world. Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains unsolve for many decades due to many reasons. People like to blame other people for their own mistakes and ignorant, please stop blaming games.
Both sides are the same from the same root, human greed (corrupted mind) ‘One hand alone cannot clap’
I am respect Tun that you are good hearted person to lift people from the darkness of deep hole, this foundation provided successful humanitarian aid, bravo! Indeed, it is good to help other people when they are in helpless time. However, have u heard before ‘charity begins at home’? There are still many Malaysians are suffering due to poverty, education, health and so on. Please help your countrymen before others. Beside that, why bother to mention Chinese, Indian and Malay involved in this humanitarian aid since we are Malaysian afterall? In fact, the truth is we are still in segregation period like previous decades and unable to change our mindset yet.
Salam Tun & Viva Palestine,
The time will come when Palestine people will get back their land.
Why are so many people hate Jews?, I don
1/ Kudos to the team for their activities …
2/ Tun, I am sympathetic to the current Palestinian plight, however feel the issues of today is not just caused by Israel, but also brought upon Palestine unto themselves.
3/With UN intervention, the Palestinians had a sactioned piece of land in the 1940s, but Palestine wanted more, and went out to war against Israel (along with other Arab country colleagues) and in the process lost the landmass they had.
4/ While I am concerned that what I write next could appear insensitive to some, but at end of day, it’s important to note that there are always 2 sides to a coin – is it all Israel’s doing or are Palestine to take some of the blame for their present state?
5/ Secondly, do the other Arab countries truly symphatise with Palestine or is it all a show? Does Iraq, Syria or Saudi Arabia really care if Palestine prospers? Lets be frank – how much non-confrontational discussion have they initiated or arbitrated with Israel in peace talks? Is waging war the only approach?
Doesnt that mindset go against your present catcry “make war a crime?”
6/ Why dont you take these Arab Nations to task as well the US and UK for placing more emphasis on aggression rather than finding common ground for peace?
7/ And once again, I ask you – under your administration, other than criticising Israel, what did you do to arbitrate on behalf of Palestine? Did you look at organising peace talks? Or is your only strategy to finding a solution talking/writing about it? Is your Palestinian sympathy too a “show”?
(Ravi)
Assalamualaikum Tun,
1.Gerhana di Tengah Kalimah Allah
Assalammualaikum Tun,
Western and developed countries idealized universal values such as human rights, freedom of speech, democracy, globalization and free trade. They only used these ideas for their own benefits or their associate benefits. When these ideas are used by their enemies, they disagree and against them. This is what happened in Palestine. Palestinians didn’t have their rights to use these values. As what had been mentioned above, there is no absolute basic rights in this world. If this is the reality in Malaysia, there should be no freedom of speech, human rights and democracy. Sometimes we Malaysian did not appreciate these values. It is better in Singapore where everything is being blocked and controlled.
http://ayubjamil93.blogspot.com/
~HATI BUDI MELAYU~
Dengan izin Tun,
Hello Hanan
You ask which makes Tun happier, “the real help for the Palestinians or is it your rhetoric of hatred against Israel and the Jews.”
I can’t answer for Tun but for people who support Tun’s point of view — and I am one of them — it’s hard to like, much less love, a terrorist criminal state like Israel.
Now before you go into your standard denial mode and start calling me an anti-semite, have you read Richard Goldstone’s report which is available at the UN’s High Commissioner for Refugees site? Fascinating reading.
Here, let me post some findings by Judge Goldstone’s Mission in case you haven’t read it. It’s really eye-opening to read about the deliberate attacks on two hospitals. Here’s the report on one: “The Mission also examined the intense artillery attacks, again including white phosphorous munitions, on al-Wafa hospital in eastern Gaza City, a facility for patients receiving long-term care and suffering from particularly serious injuries. On the basis of the information gathered, the Mission found a violation of the prohibition of attacks on civilian hospitals in both cases.”
A mosque was also attacked, to wit, “The Mission further examined an incident in which a mosque was targeted with a missile during early evening prayers, resulting in the death of 15 people, and an attack with flechette munitions on a crowd of family and neighbours at a condolence tent, killing five.”
Further, in relation to an attack on a house where 22 Palestinians died, “From the facts ascertained in all the above cases, the Mission finds that the conduct of the Israeli armed forces constitutes grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention in respect of wilful killings and wilfully causing great suffering to protected persons and, as such, give rise to individual criminal responsibility. It also finds that the direct targeting and arbitrary killing of Palestinian civilians is a violation of the right to life.”
The list goes on. And all the while, during Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli military press officer was denying that the deliberate targeting ever took place.
You keep on trotting out the complaint about rocket attacks on Israel — in reality illegally occupied Palestinian territories — from Gaza. How many people have died from such attacks since 1948? 10,000?, 1,000?, 100? The answer is 15 of whom 5 were soldiers. You say Kerem Shalom is attacked every day but the one and only news item I could find on this is this report by the Jerusalem Post dated 1 Jan 1020 which said:
A mortar shell fired from the Gaza Strip hit an open area near the Kerem Shalom border crossing at the southeastern end of the Gaza Strip on Friday evening.
No one was hurt in the attack and no damage was reported.”
That was the whole report Hanan. A bit of an anti-climax don’t you think?
If I didn’t know you better I’d think that there was a bit of an exaggeration in your comments, wouldn’t you? But of course you only speak the truth and you don’t lie.
Why don’t you tell the truth about how the people of gaza actually live Hanan, since you are closer to them and you love the truth. Why don’t you tell the world that Palestinians children in the Palestinian Occupied Territories are denied access to medical treatment until they die of their illnesses?
Bring us up to date and tell us about how Israeli Occupation Forces enter Palestinian homes and shoot people in front of their children
It’s a lovely war isn’t it Hanan? Isn’t it a thrill to be able to trap 1.2 million people, the majority below the age of 15, and blow them to pieces at will? Isn’t it a big joy to be able to point a gun at the face of a 5 year-old and scare her out of her skin and mentally scar her for life? Isn’t it great to be able to slowly strangle a whole population to death? And talk about peace while you’re at it.
It would have made me laugh were it not a serious matter when I watched a TV interview of a female resident of Sderot who is now taking tranquilisers as a result of the rockets. And her home wasn’t even harmed. Her child was happily surfing the internet and she was cooking dinner in her nice kitchen during part of the interview.
The world knows that the unspoken policy of Israel is to get the Gazans and those in the West Bank to leave. That is why life is made as miserable as possible — in order to break their spirit when they will give a collective sigh of despair and say, “OK, we give up, we’ll leave”. Many who know choose to not to act but there are some like those in Viva Palestina who are undeterred and continue to prick at the world’s conscience to at last acknowledge the unlawful and dehumanising treatment of the Gazans.
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PS. To other readers, the words in blue are hyperlinks and are not meant to show emphasis. Thanks.
Dear Jericho,
Based on what ground you said Jerusalem not mentioned in Quran? It was the place Isa (Jesus) PBUH was born and it mentioned in Quran. It also mentioned in Hadith.
May Allah bless you.
Hanan wrote : I wonder if a mosque would be put on fire, how fast could act the POLIS to find the culprits?
For your information Hanan, the Malaysian police are made up of people from all faith backgrounds. The church torchings in Malaysia are just another addition of cases to the police. We in Malaysia have no problem with whatever the police can or cannot find.
Some cases are solved, some are not. It’s just the nature of what the police (in Malaysia I should add) go through.
Hope this will enlighten your general knowledge of the Malaysia.
Azlan
KL
SALAM BUAT TUN BERDUA MOGA DIRAHMATI ALLAH S.W.T.
1) RIMBA EMAS RASA UNTUK MENGHENTIKAN PEPERANGAN TERLETAK PADA RAKYAT PELESTIN DAN ISRAIL. HENDAK MENYALAHKAN NEGARA ARAB LAIN SEPERTI MESIR PUN TIDAK BOLEH KERANA NEGARA ITU SUDAH TERIMA AZAB APABILA BERPERANG DENGAN ISRAIL.
2) MALAH KITA MARAHKAN ARAB SAUDI PUN NEGARA ITU SEBENARNYA MENYUMBANG WANG LEBIH BANYAK DARI NEGARA KITA. ADA YANG TIDAK KENA DENGAN SALASILAH KETURUNAN YANG BERADA DI SEMENANJUNG GAZA ITU. LEBIH KURANG SAMA DENGAN PERKAUMAN DI IRAQ.
3) KADANG-KADANG SIFAT MENYERAH (HIJRAH) SATU AKAL MENOLAK PEPERANGAN DAN PENDEKATAN TEKANAN SELEPAS DIJAJAH BUKANLAH SIFAT YANG ADA PADA KETURUNAN ARAB ITU.
4) SIMPATI KITA KERANA ANAK-ANAK KECIL, KAUM WANITA DAN GOLONGAN TUA PERLULAH DI UBAH DENGAN BANTUAN PELARIAN PERANG KERANA SUDAH TENTU MEREKA ADA KELEBIHAN KEMAHIRAN YANG BOLEH DIGUNA PAKAI.
5) DAH LAMA DAH KALAU TIDAK SELESAI HIJRAHLAH KEPADA PENDEKATAN LAIN.
6) KALAU PENDAPAT HIJRAH INI TIDAK MEREKA MAHU TERIMA SAH ADA SIFAT DIRI YANG TERLALU KUAT YANG TIDAK BOLEH KITA BERI NASIHAT.
WALLAHU’ALAM
I’m a catholic and I disagree that christians are allowed to use kalimah ‘Allah’. There are strict laws and the syariah courts to prevent muslims from converting to other religions, but there are non for people of other religions to embrace islam.
As Islam is the official religion of Malaysia, we are exposed to islam everyday and everywhere, and remided of it 5 times a day. I was the only non-muslim in my class, but was able to hold on to my faith because then there were tolerance and respect by my muslim classmates and teachers for other faith and also because there was a clear distinction between Islam and Christianity.
Now how am I going to explain to my daughters if they ask me, why are we not muslims when we pray to allah the same as the muslims? How do I explain the difference between the two religions if we both pray to Allah?
That is why many Sabahans and Sarawakians find it easy to embrace Islam because for them there is no difference between the Allah in islam and Allah in Christianity.
I grew up with malays and the one thing I learned from them is that their religion is very important to them. Non malays are always invited to learn and follow every aspect of their culture but never mess around with their religion.
Christians won’t gain anything by being able to use the kalimah Allah, but we have a lot to lose if we use it, our country’s peace and stability, 52 years of understanding and tolerance, and our strenght as unified malaysians.
Salam kasih dan salam hormat Ayahanda Tun. An article from the Malaysian Business Times I came across.
Citigroup Inc said it received approval from Malaysia
I am so confused by jericho’s. Either he is too stupid to understand history or really he is moron. The land first occupied and owned by the Palestinians. By the help of british you (mostly khazars) invaded palestin. And nowadays, being helped by US, you killed people, innocent children, demolished their houses and utilities. What a strange war, the palestinians mostly kicked your ass with stones, but you shot them with real bullets. Shame on you Khazars. But, we muslims will wait with an open heart for the forthcoming Christ and Mahdi to help us Insya Allah. For every single person that you killed and tortured, we will claim from you. And during that time, you’ve no place to hide…….
The only way that we the World Muslims can show our disgust at Egypt is by boycotting the Haj Pilgrimage fpr the year 2010!
Assalammualaikum ayahanda Tun.
Dunia Islam amat memerlukan tokoh Islam yang berani seperti Ayahanda Tun. Kami di Malaysia amat beruntung kerana dapat berada 22tahun dibawah pemerintahan Ayahanda Tun. Kesian rakyat Palestin kenapa dunia tidak berhati perut dengan penderitaan mereka. Ayahanda Tun memang berani.
Tahniah Ayahanda Tun.
http://kedahkekl.blogspot.com
Hahaha! I’ve jsut went through Tun’s blog and noticed that many are still arguing about the issue of ‘kalimah Allah’. Tak habih-habih! Sudah laaa…
Slm Tun,
Saya kira hal berkenaan isu penggunaan nama ‘Allah’ ini tidak akan menjadi sensasi sekiranya pihak Media berperanan untuk tidak mengeluarkan kenyataan-kenyataan yg mempunyai unsur provokasi. Memang sudah menjadi lumrah akhbar akan mencari sesuatu isu yg hangat untuk melariskan jualan mereka. Namun, gaya olahan ayat mampu mengubah persepsi setiap pembaca samada ke arah kebencian, sekadar maklumat am dan banyak lagi.
Selain itu, sikap beberapa pemimpin persatuan dan kumpulan yg menyatakan sokongan serta muncul dalam berita dengan mengadakan perhimpunan walaupun mendapat permit, menyemarakkan lagi suasana yg sememangnya sedang hangat ini ibarat api yg marak disimbah minyak tanah dan dikipas-kipaskan lagi. Kadangkala amat lucu sekali kelihatan gelagat-gelagat mereka ini. Maaf bukan niat untuk memperkecilkan usaha-usaha yg telah dilakukan. Tapi pernahkah kita terfikir bahawa perkara ini seolah-olah menunjukkan kelemahan pihak kerajaan kita yg menggelarkan negara Malaysia sebuah negara islam tetapi dalam masa yg sama kita mampu dipermain-mainkan oleh pihak lain terutama sekali dlm isu agama. Kerana negara islam yg dilaung-laungkan tersebut tidak mempunyai asas yg kukuh dan mutlak sehingga isu-isu berkaitannya boleh dicabar di dalam mahkamah. Dan saya kira tindakan kerajaan membenarkan perhimpunan seperti ini diadakan adalah amat kurang wajar. Adakah dgn membenarkan perhimpunan diadakan bertujuan menutup kesalahan yg telah dilakukan oleh kerajaan atau kerajaan takut bersuara sehingga terpaksa menyorok di belakang kumpulan-kumpulan ini bagi menyatakan pandangan mereka? Bukankah biasanya mereka yg memekik-mekik di jalanan adalah ciri-ciri org yg tertindas dan teraniaya?
Isu penggunaan kalimah ‘Allah’ ini sepatutnya perlu ditangani pihak atasan dan bukannya membiarkan rakyat yg mudah dimanipulasikan berjuang sehingga menimbulkan suasana kacau dalam negara. Sekiranya kerajaan ingin mengembalikan keyakinan rakyat terhadap mereka, perlu membuktikan dgn kebijaksanaan mereka serta menonjolkan kredibiliti dalam menangani isu ini.Justeru itu, rakyat tidak lagi diperalatkan oleh pihak-pihak tertentu untuk merosakkan perpaduan yg telah lama kita bina.
Bagi pandangan saya, kekuatan Islam di Malaysia mula berkurangan bukan kerana serangan golongan luar, tetapi daripada kita sendiri yg amat lemah sehingga tidak mampu memikirkan kaedah dan pendekatan yg lebih bijaksana malah gemar mengadakan perhimpunan-perhimpunan aman untuk menyelesaikan sesuatu isu yg mana bole mencetuskan ketegangan dan isu-isu berkaitan lain seperti yg telah berlaku sekarang iaitu kejadian serangan ke atas gereja-gereja. Di manakah sifat sabar dan bertenang dalam menyelesaikan masalah dapat dipraktikkan?dalam solat kita diajar untuk khusyu’ yg bertujuan melatih minda kita agar sentiasa fokus dalam sesuatu perkara. Malah dalam al-quran juga telah menyebut perkataan ‘berfikir’ lebih daripada 20 kali untuk mengajar kita sentiasa merenung sesuatu isu sedalam-dalamnya sebelum membuat sebarang keputusan.
Selain itu, sudah tentu akan wujud tuduh menuduh oleh beberapa pihak dan juga penafian-penafian oleh kumpulan tertentu kerana yg melakukannya adalah golongan rakyat yg tidak memahami kesan buruk yg bakal menimpa di sebalik tindakan yg telah dilakukan kerana mereka ini didorong oleh rasa tidak puas hati dan kemarahan setelah mendapat maklumat daripada akhbar-akhbar serta oleh gesaan dalam perhimpunan-perhimpunan aman itu tadi. Suasana ini juga akan menimbulkan keadaan dan persekitaran tidak elok dalam masyarakat berbilang agama di negara kita.
Saya berharap agar semua pemimpin kumpulan di luar sana memainkan peranan yg lebih produktif dan positif dalam menimbulkan kesedaran ahli-ahlinya dan bukannya mengeluarkan kenyataan-kenyataan yg mungkin menimbulkan rasa tidak senang pihak lain. Apalah guna kita menang sekarang tapi akhirnya kemenangan itu hanya bersifat sementara dan menimbulkan pelbagai isu berbangkit yg tidak akan kunjung tiba penyelesaiannya. Fikirkan perkara yg lebih jauh dalam mencari kebaikan bersama. Barulah kita akan dihormati oleh semua, samada kawan atau pun lawan. Cuba wujudkan situasi ‘win-win’ yg benar-benar ‘win-win’. wallahu a’lam.
sekian terima kasih
YABhg Tun’
Mr Hanan and Jerico has a similar thought in common. They may come from the similar tribal clan which always have prejudice against people who dislike Israel and the regime. They commented with anguished and never use deep rational heart and mind to understand the real misery in gaza. They have been doctrined by the wicked regime to hold and thrumatised pelastinians in whatever means they could to rule the land of the holy prophets. They get the wrong interpretation of what we malaysians look at their values. We never hate jews ! It was the jews that deserted themselves from malaysia due to their race-pride and after the british returned ! we only hate atrocities of the regime. It is not just ! Hanan and jerico live in a good confortable life in the expanse of pelastinians suffering . We dont see much of the attack news on gaza because the news network are blocked till it arrived from the viva convoy yesterday! What is this hanan ? The BIG LIES are from you ! Dont fool international communities in this millinea anymore ! You make us sick of your fillty inhumane aggression tactics ! Think and repent !
Yes, i know the so called religion of peace does not condone the buring of churches but the followers or should I say, some of the followers who are awfully sensitive did the dastardly deed….infact if you see worldwide, there are an awful lot of examples of over sensitive followers of the religion of peace that have burn places of worships, bomb ancient statues, murder over trivial matter like cartoons, teddy bear with the name Mo…and now in Malaysia over the word “Allah”, which incidentally is not copyrighted and has been used by people of different faiths in places like mideast, Indonesia, East Malaysia for hundreds of years with no issues.
If you say that just because the word is not in the bible but in the quran, therefore only muslim can use it. Then I say since Jerusalem is mentioned is never mentioned in the quran but mentioned many times in the old and new testament, muslims have no claim whatsover over the city of Jerusalem. So why bother with this gaza trip.
Palestine dijelajah secara Perang,secara paksa
Malaysia sekarang dijelajah Singapura secara Economy,
tak berbunyi langsung.
Capital Land kepunyaan Kerajaan Singapura sudah bermaharajalela dengan pembangunan yg pesat di JOHOR.
Banyak tanah Bumi sudah digadai.
Apakah kita masih nak pertikaikan nasib Palestine
sedangkan nasib kita serupa,cuma berlainan cara.
Kita perlu tolong diri kita sendiri,
barulah sauadara kita.
Saya harap apa yg saya kemukakan adalah benar,
dan menjadi kesedaran pada kita sebelum nasi jadi bubur,
dah jadi bubur,nanti hari hari makan bubur.
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
Sebab itu Tun, negara-negara Islam perlu bergabung tenaga untuk mewujudkan satu agensi berita yang boleh membuat liputan adil kepada negara Islam tetapi dunia bukan Islam..negara Islam di bawah OIC perlumenubuhkan agensi. keluarkanlah dana kerana hasil bumi negara Islam bukan sedikit..melalui agensi itu, kita boleh tunjuk negara2 luar bagaimana etika kewartawanan menurut Islam itu sebenarnya..mungkin Pertubuhan Berita Nasional Malaysia (Bernama) boleh memulaknnya..namun Bernama perlukan suntinakan dana besar untuk melakukannya..Al-Jazeerah boleh dipakai, masalahnya dia tidak ada identiti yang melambangkan dia sebagai agensi berita Islam tulen. Jadi Aljazeerah belum boleh menjadi alternatif..
assalamualaikum tun,
excuse me tun,
to jericho,
i think you should mix around with 13 years old ppl la..
Salam Ayahanda Tun M
Salam warga Chedats sekalian
ALLAHUAKBAR!ALLAHUAKBAR!ALLAHUAKBAR..JIHADLAH KAMU DALAM APA CARA SEKALI PUN WAHAI UMAT ISLAM SEKALIAN..Bangunlah dari lena mu…bagunlah wahai umat Nabi Muhammad S.A.W sekalian…sesungguhnya kita sudah terlalu lama tidur dan menyepi sehingga habis agama,maruah org ISLAM,dan sedara mara kita di kutuk,dikeji dan dihini…DIKIRBKAN PANJI-PANJI ISLAM…
Salam Tun and a very good day to you,
I am very proud to hear at least a small group of Mala
One important thing we finally managed to find out despite all the media propaganda (just like the continued daily Israeli Gaza bombing exposed by chedet even though we are made to think that the Israel bombing has stopped) is that : even the Egyptians themselves are allies to Israel. Otherwise why would Hosni Mobarak want to guerilla raid the Viva Palestine group on its way to provide aid and supplies to Palestine? We have heard from an earlier blog on chedet that even doctors who want to enter Palestine from the Egyptian border have been stopped by the Eqyptian authorities during the time of the 30 day bombing some time back.
So you guys should have realized that those Arab neighbours themselves are the Gazans worse enemies because they put on public face of appearing to support the Palestines but in reality they bersekongkong dengan Israel. If the Viva Palestinian group had not been attacked we would not know but the prevention of the doctors entry into Palestinian from the Egyptian border (they claimed that proper documentation was not produced) have already been giving us signs of the Egyptian hypocrites.
Friends of Palestinians, we have to be more careful now. We cannot even trust the Arab neighbours. They may actually be our worst enemieis. The Israelis have bought them with money and power and fear.
That stupid Hosni Mobarak should have realized that the Israelis will fail him at the slightest instance. Cannot he see that the Israelis have begin to build a massive wall along the Israel-Egyptian border to stop people from coming to Israel? Benyamin Netanyahu says that why should the Egyptians care since the wall is built on Israel side? See how much the Israeli PM care about Israel-Egyptian relations?
We cannot be better Muslims if, as Tun Dr M has said, we could not care when thousands of our Palestian children and mothers are killed and suffer the utmost sufferings but instead choose to care about one Chinese national? We should also not be fooled by the world press owned by the kafirs.
I sure am glad Tun decided to personally lend his support to this Palestinian NGO group which he has setup. The Palestinians must above all else pray to Allah for His Assistance in a sincere manner. Then true help will come.
Dear kind Tun, allow me and instance to answer Hanan’s comments:
To: Hanan
We are proud of the word “Allah” and it is exclusive to Islam. Although we respect human right, we do not put it above Islam. Let me make it clear to you. Islam is ABOVE your human rights principle brought about by the West simply because it is Allah that is the Creator of humankind, All Praise Be To Allah Subhanahuwa Ta’ala. So we loyal Muslims give you a stern but gentle warning: stick with your use of the word ‘God’ and do not think of using the word ‘Allah’ to promote Christianity or Judaism. Here is a simple fact. As Dr M had said in his earlier blog, even the holy books of the Jews and the Christians do not use the word ‘Allah’. Allah is an Arabic word used in the holy book of Muslims, the Koran,which came AFTER your Torah and Bible. Before this, in the Torah and Bible there is no such Arabic word called ‘Allah’ which was used in your books. So you simply vilify and stain your own “religions” by using the word Allah. It just shows your animosity towards Islam when your “purported religions” which you follow stresses not to create disunity or disharmony.
As to the Church burning incident, where is your proof that true and faithful Moslems burnt your Churches? Come forth with your evidence!
On another note, I have full confidence in Tun Hishamuddin to settle the matter. He is a strong, “young” Malay leader, Western and open minded and yet a Muslim. All Muslim, Hisham, the MHO and our Malay leades needs all our support for them to stem this stubborn Christian minority who want to create disunity in this beautiful and lovely country. Let us express our disagreement that Christians can use the word “Allah” but let us express it calmly though patience, firmness and perseverance and not through bloodshed, riot or demonstrations which create public disorder. Allah SWT does not like this. And we can see how the Prophet PBUH peacefully managed to bring back Islam to Mekkah when he returned from his stay in Medinah.
And I agree totally with nash (the first reply to this blog). He hits it spot on!
absolutely true…..and as for the churches which were “beaten”, this is the problem which was caused by themselves in the first place!
Tahniah tas OIC
YABhg Tun,
Bravo!…to all those involved.
Dear Tun,
I am responding to the comment posted by ‘mokna’.
Dear ‘jericho’,
What’s up with you, dude.. didn’t you read papers and notice what the authorities are doing? Are you lost? Do you need help by the way?
Peace between Israel and Palestine will never happen in our lifetime. Hate,stubbornness and distrust is so ingrained into each others psychic that it is to the point of no return. The truth is, Israeli Jews will never leave the promise land and Palestinians will never be able to drive them out unless it is Armageddon where both sides end in total destruction.
Peace initiatives have been mediated over the last 35 years with no solution in sight. It is the new and young generation that suffers the most. They were brought into the new world and learn to being distrustful and hateful.
This aid convoy is very noble gesture but will ultimately not make a slight difference. It is just a tiny drop in a vast ocean. I salute these people who made this sacrifice but this is not how the holy land is suppose to be.
Peace unto all.
Tun yang dikasihi,
I have a comment for Hannan.
1) The Gazans are deprived of basic facility that any humankind is entitled for. Is that too much to ask for?
2) If the Muslim in Malaysia are not tolerable, we would have burnt down the churches and temples long time ago. We will not allow any room for them to spread their teaching? So, please do more exercise to your brain!
3) Muslim has been fair to the Non-Muslim since the days of the prophet Muhammad. The Jews and the Christians have always fail to ensure fairness. Please do more history reading.
4) The Muslim of Malaysia deserved to be recognized for its effort to promote world’s peace, justice and fairness. We maintain our dignity and independence. We don’t trade our religion, pride and dignity for money. Unlike most of our Arab friends, I’m sorry for them. They are a disgrace to the religion.
Melayu itu hebat!
Salam..
Semoga tun dalam keadaan walafiat hendakNya…
Sepertimana yang dunia maklum, beberapa negara setuju untuk menghantar bantuan terutamanya kemanusiaan selepas Palestin di hentam teruk oleh Israel baru2 ini.. namun semuanya hanyalah momok dalam suratkhabar dunia sahaja..realitinya, apa yang berlaku sebelum dan selepas sama sahaja..
Apa yang ingin ditekankan disini ialah “kompromi” antara Mesir dan Israel yang menghalang bantuan masuk ke Gaza..apakah ada perjanjian sulit antara Hosni Mubarak dgn kerajaan haram Israel? Demi kuasa, nampaknya mesir “takut” untuk berkata “tidak” kepada israel..
ckp pn xguna..xde sape dgr..kite sendiri yg kne bertindak..boikot barang israel!..hapuskan starbuck…kedai mkn yg lain byk lg..lg sedap!…
Bagus sungguhlah blog Tun.
Ramai pandangan,banyak interaksi,
ada sampai nak tulis Novel.
Tak dapat publish Novel sendiri,kat blog Tun pun jadilah,
bila lagi,Beb
Dunia Islam sudah dicemar,dizalimi,difitnah,di apalagi..
Adakah kekuatan mereka,atau kelemahan kita menjadi punca
Kita tak berdaya,hanya bolih berkata kata dan berdoa.
Marilah sesama kita cari huraian bagi menyatupadukan Umat Islam
Kita mulakan di Malaysia,UMNO bersama PAS
Dengan niat yg tulus ikhlas,dengan kalimah ALLAH,
InsyaAllah kita akan dapat hidayah yg tak terfikir manusia.Amin
Senjata yg digunakan Isreal adalah penglibatan Amerika.
Amerika mengunakan pengaruhnya untuk menipu Dunia.
Dunia Islam tak berdaya,hanya kata kata
Dear Tun,
I know you always have a great point of view almost in everything.Here i just wanna ask your thought about our new current issue that happen in our lovely country. Several church had been blast by unknown group that highly possible can create a catastrophic riot among Malaysian. For me it is a sad day for malaysian, but maybe for some people this is a way to pull their legs and make some profit from it. What is your opinion Tun?
jericho,
I care!
AlSalmu Alaykum Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir,
Your comments are spot on regarding the situation in Gaza. The Arabic world is pathetic at best and it saddens (being a Muslim Arab) to see what is happening in Gaza and elsewhere.
Our internal conflicts have surpassed those of Andalusian City-States (Tawaefs) or “Sects” or “Parties” and is reaching a level that i can not find historical precedence for, unfortunately.
I worry about Malaysia and the international campaign being organized and waged daily in the New York Times, The Wall street Journal, The times, The Telegraph..etc and other publications that are obviously carefully choreographed (Barry Wain was just a shot across the bow) and i expect much more to come.
Malaysia is Islam last bastion of Hope. The church burning incidents are instigated but “Agent Provocateurs” using those that dont quite understand the spirit of Islam.
I do Not like the idea of using the word Allah in a manner intentionally meant to mislead and create friction and chaos. But i also do NOT agree with the actions of the small minority that have fallen under the control of “Agent provocateurs”.
Islam is about balance and justice and Islam does not condone at all the burning of churches or other religious places of worship, especially Jewish and Christians. They are our brothers in the book and we should never confuse the message of Christianity and Judaism with the behaviors of the followers who have strayed from the teachings of both Christianity and Judaism.
To the Gentleman Jericho, please understand that Islam does not condone this, but notice the events in Egypt, Algeria, Thailand and the Philippines, they are all linked and not random. Some “patsies” are being used to propagate these issues purposefully.
To all the Malays and Muslims in Malaysia, study history and do NOT FALL for this old trick of inciting racial and religious strife to facilitate the intervention and interference of those foreign powers that wish Malaysia Ill. Brothers of all faith in Malaysia dont fall for this Fitna trap. Rise above it and outfox the fox.
I worry about Malaysia, for i can already see the finger prints and “Modus Operandi” of the same organizations with the same blue prints. (Nothing new here) Please DO NOT fall for it.
Dark clouds are gathering and everyone should keep their wits and wisdom about them, we are all going to need every bit of it.
God Bless you Tun
God Bless Malaysia
The Perdana Global Peace Organization is not really Global at all. Nothing of the similar effort was taken or reported in Sri Lanka or other “non-muslim” countries.
Isn’t it strange, we hate America for saying ” America and the rest of the World” and yet at home we say “Muslims and non-Muslims”….strange coincidences?
Tun Mahathir,
Salam dengan penuh hormat.
I wish to repeat my personal opinion as I have said time and again in my previous postings in your blog.Some were accepted but many were removed.That is quite OK because I understand that we need to stay within the permitted lines. After all as a civilised society we need to be entrapped by mordern day rules of law because of the many vices brought before our tender nafsu. Even with the rules set by Allah, there are still many that need to be restrained and contained. As human, we have many faults but the Democratic princilples enhanced by the West( many were explicitly diluted to free them from such democratic entrapment ) has cut off human wisdom to bring about a better and longer lasting world and worst,it has been perlaced by greed for wealth creation.
The much lauded freedom of exprassion allows me to say what I need to say whether it is accepted and well recieved or not is irrelevant.
1. As a Muslim we know that these non believers of Allah and disposes the Koran as myth,will continue their suppression of Islam and all Muslim countries.
2. We were also made known that the Jews lead by Nabi Musa were the chosen people but by their own greed, they are not worthy of an ounce ot trust.
3. The Christians towed by the Jews (zionist)will swiggle their way and continue their efforts to establish christian supremacy as they know that Islam possesses the truth for world peace and order.If they can break Islam, the rest (other relegion) are already halve done as their followers are in the front pack in the great chase and manipulation for personal wealth.
4. We have also been reminded to look for signs when the world has reached the ripe old age of self destruction and with all these power hungry and mad for personal wealth and people clamoring to be in the front centre row and willing to stoop for every oppertunity, wierd wheather conditions,suffocation environtments ect, ect; I think, perhaps just perhaps that humankind is in our last lap,100 years, 500 years or less? wallah waalam.
Your involvement to promote world peace is most honorable but please do not expect any recognition from the world community as most of them are lost people and blinded by the worthless American $$$$$$$. Wonder why people are buying gold now ?
May Allah blessed you with many more fruitful years ahead.
Assalamualaikum Tun:
Every time news about Palestinians or any Muslim being cruelly treats, it makes my heart pumping hard as if it going to burst. But as we Muslim know, it
to jericho, whos start first? we know people like u easy to switch the problem
Salam Tun,
We are always support you and may god bless you and family always,
To Jericho ~ Don’t blame anybody if you play the fire, can burn yourself.
Be understanding and respect other people religion, k mah…
Malaysia – 60% muslim and 9% christian.
Thank you.
dear jericho,
up until now there still no evident Muslims are involve in the church attack. by the way, it can’t be compared to the amount of lives being murdered everyday. you are too bias.
Salam Tun,
I would like to volunteer myself for the next program. I’m a medical doctor and I can contribute.
Thank you.
Salam Tun,
I’m looking forward to hear the talks from all 5.
Kepada mereka yang menyertai rombongan ini, terima kasih kerana sanggup menggadai nyawa demi membantu rakyat Gaza, God Bless you…. good job!
Salam Sejahtera kepada Tun dan Keluarga.
1)Shukur kepada Allah kerana pejuang pejuang kita yang menyertai konvoi Viva Palestine telah selamat kembali ke tanah air.
2)Jutaan terima kasih kepada Perdana Global peace yang di pimpin oleh Tun,bernama dan lain lain persatuan lagi,Dan perserta perserta dan pemberita yang mewakili bernama yang bertngkus lumus menjayakan Viva Palestine.
3)Hairan Lah Tun mengapa kita di pengaruhi oleh media barat.Saperti yang Tun kata kan, di harap bernama dapat mengutarakan berita berita yang di kumpulkan oleh pemberita mereka yang berserta Viva Palestine ini.Itu lagi tepat
4)Pasal berita kan Tun Tak payah nak pergi jauh.Kita tahu jiran kita selalu memburuk buruk kan negara kita,tetapi apa tindak balas yang kita lakukan.Agak nya pemberita kita takut ke Tun.Tak tau lah Tun.
Tun jaga kesihatan moga di rahmati Allah sentiasa. Amiin
Some people are lucky, some aren’t. Life in never a fair deal.
What was done to the churches were deplorable. Here is my 2 cents worth of thoughts on that matter. The Catholic Church shouldn’t have use the word ‘Allah’ because of the cultural context in Malaysia (West Malaysia) but if they insist on doing it, only means that they are not sensitive to other religions and that their idea is to be provocative. Sometimes when things happen and the blame is on the followers of the ‘religion of peace’, I always believe that sometimes, these are perpetrated by the non-followers to instigate and cause problems. Anyway, this article is not about this problem right?
Thanks Jericho
why the phrase “chinese malaysian” and “indian malaysian”.
what actually are youself trying to prove?
once again separate and rule factor???
It
Salam, Tun;
Mereka semua yang terlibat adalah kebanggaan kita. Mereka benar benar berhati mulia dan saya amat bangga dengan anak anak didik Tun itu. Syabas. Saya ingin belajar akan pengalaman dan pengurbanan mereka.Terima kasih Tun.
a’kum tun,excuse me.
dear jericho,
Are YOU sure the said religion of peace people did it.Majority of the people of religion of peace are angry with the tragedy and openly condemning the act.
Just let the police handle the investigation.Let the law do its part.
We should’nt point fingers.Let’s have an open mind, maybe someone is taking advantage of the situation.Maybe its political, maybe the other religion of peace,maybe CIA,KGB,MI5,NAZI,JEWS or ABC or CDE…
I still believe the police will do their best to solve the incident.
HEY FRIEND, SORRY IF I ANNOYED YOU BUT FOR YOUR INFO I M A MUSLIM AND BOTH MY BEST FRIENDS THAT I CALL BROTHER TILL DEATH DO WE APART IS CHRISTIAN.
MAY GOD/ALLAH BLESS U AND ALL MALAYSIAN.
SALAM TUN AND ALL CHEDET’s
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
…AND WE ARE REALLY PROUD THAT OUR NIECE WAS AMONGST THE BERNAMA TEAM AND SHE SAID THAT ALTHOUGH THE MISSION WAS A DIFFICULT ONE, HAVING A HANDSHAKE WITH AYAHANDA TUN AT THE ARRIVAL HALL YESTERDAY REALLY MADE IT ALL WORTHWHILE.
NOW WE CAN SEE THAT EVEN THE YOUNGER GENERATION ARE ENERGIZED BY YOUR PRESENCE…
KAU LAYAK MENERIMA ANUGERAH
RIMBUN PELINDUNG UNTUK SEMUA
AYAHANDA, TUTUR PENGHARGAAN BANGSA
BONDA UNTUK ISTERI TERCINTA
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN DR. MAHATHIR MOHAMAD
SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG BONDA RAKYAT TUN DR. SITI HASMAH ALI.
ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
jericho:
That’s hitting below the belt. The real perpetrator has not been caught yet. It’s an open secret that people will do surprising things for their political gain
Alhamdulillah the Malaysian team came back home safely.
This proved that Malaysian really care about what happen in GAZA.
The issue now is why Egypt government which is a Muslim country didn’t help GAZA? Shouldn’t they sympathize with what happen to their brothers and sisters in GAZA?
Islam taught us to unite and help each other especially during hard times.
Look what happen to Muslim nowadays, instead of helping each other they are helping the enemies.
This is also what happen in Malaysia today. Muslims didn’t unite and instead hate each other. The impact cannot be seen now but in future.
Let’s hope the best for our country.
Assalamualikum dear Tun Dr. Mahathir.
It is good that the Gazans managed to get some helping aid and the great contribution of Malaysians.
Dear Tun, by reading your posting, I am confused what makes you happier? Is it the real help for the Palestinians or is it your rhetoric of hatred against Israel and the Jews. From your posting it looks like that your happier dancing is the hatred to Israel and the Jews.
Regardless to the mood of the posting of hatred, it looks like you are basing your writing on false facts or telling half of the truth (just to be polite).
Israel is not bombing since the last Gaza war any hospitals, universities, etc
Dear tun, hope you can orchestra another magic to the gazans. Your hands are still powerful as always unlike barry who. I believe many will stand behind you, for the gazans.
Thanks Tun for the info…
May Allah bless us Muslim.
Dear Jericho
“who cares about this when in Malaysia, churches are being persecuted”
Whats wrong with u dude..did u really miss somethg here..
We all talking about the Gazan..after all they still can’t live a normal life.
Of course we also dun want it to happen,don’t blame others..
Congratulations to the team and everyone involved in the crusade. I have been following the progress since the journey started in the UK.
Tun,
It is their mission.They want to abolish the Palestinians/Gazans..
and the Arabs are doing nothing… These Jews are conquering the world..and it is only the Muslims that can stop them. But Muslims are not united…
Why? Because Muslims are peace loving.. That’s what jericho (Jan 11, 1:21pm) said. And if we have more people like jericho, it is the end of the world!!! He doesn’t see the problem. He only sees the result!!
Jericho = go and stay in Gaza !!! Then you will understand why….
Assallammualaikummwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Dan Tun..siapakah engineer di sebalik kejayaan ini?
It is a bird?
A plane?
No it’s Superman..Tun Mahathir is superman!!
Terima kasih Tun..hari tu saya sakat Hanan kerana berjaya melepaskan konvoi ini ke Gaza..Pukul anak sindir menantu..
Saya rasa dia tak faham..Tak hairan hanan tak reti bahasa..
Tetapi mengapa Hosni Mubarak tak reti bahasa??
Yusuf Qardawi amat bersuara lantang mengkritik Hosni Mubarak..
Ehem..ehemm
Terima kasih Tun..Cukuplah Allah membalas jasa Tun..
Salam Tun,
by Jericho,
You all were the one who did the first blood..
My Dear Tun,
To make a long story short, what are the arabs doing about Gaza? Even the Egyptians themselves are preventing the convoy from entering Gaza. Israel is surrounded by muslim and arab countries, but yet, Israel seems to be holding the upper hand here. So, What are the arabs doing about it?
Yeah, who cares?
Khilafah is the only solution to save Gaza
By HBT on January 11, 2010 4:44 PM
Ayahanda Tun,
This misfortune may happen to any countries, not only Gaza, Palestine. If we have no feeling for Gazans, why should we support Satu Malaysia, Satu Malaysia, Satu Malaysia then??
Do we think that the world would support us on N.E.?? Malaysia proudly declared to Malaysians and the world that Malaysia is an Islamic country, but our Government (BN) and PKR/PAS/DAP are not interested to provide assistance to these Gazans. Since the 1st race, Muslims are not interested to help, do you think that the 2nd major and other races in Malaysia will respect the Government (BN)/Ruling parties??
Like we say Ayahanda Tun, if Malaysians do not help these Gazans, is Malaysia qualify for 1 Climate and One World for Greener Earth??
The world is round, and Chinese are trained from young that “Tong Yuen” (a tiny round sweet dumpling in rainbow colour made from pulut with “intim” of kacang merah, kacang or plain) is a MUST HAVE on the 1st day of Winter and Eve of Chinese New Year (this year is February 13, 2010) according to the Chinese Calendar. Now, Malaysian Chinese can have “Tong Yuen” as and when we like because they are sold in all major and hypermarkets (sometimes stock habis, tak dpt beli)to remind that “Kekelurgaan” is the most precious “bonding” in life that can never be replaced, and this special “bonding” is similar to Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters.
Ayahanda Tun, I think the points stated by Ayahanda Tun as follows, maybe 1 Malaysia 1 Malaysia 1 Malaysia can understand better:-
10. This is what is happening in Gaza today. They world doesn’t want to know about it. The fate of a Chinese dissident who is arrested is of far greater concern, worthy of worldwide coverage. But the sufferings of the million people in Gaza, their homes destroyed, living in tents in the cold winter, being bombed daily – these are normal, deserving of no sympathy or attention.
11. The Israelis do not approve helping the Gazans. You run the risk of being labeled anti-Semitic if you do or if you reveal the things that the Israelis have done and are doing. One example is the locking up of a whole family in their house. When a child went out to fetch water, he was shot. Another child escaped but when she returned she found the family brutally murdered, including a baby in her mother’s arms.
12. The promised support by the various Governments is not forthcoming. Whatever have been sent have to be stored for checking in Egypt to ensure they are harmless. Of course most countries have sent nothing.
13. There is an illegal Israeli blockade of Gaza. Very little is allowed to go through as most things are regarded as having double usage i.e. can be made into bombs etc.
14. The targets are the civilian installations – the university, the hospitals, the administrative buildings. The precision with which the attacks are made leaves no doubt as to the intention of the Israelis. Yet the Gazans cleaned up the rubble very quickly. They try to ensure good sanitation also. They are determined to live a normal life.
15. The people of Gaza welcomed them. Seems that they all know Malaysia well. According to the team the Gazans were in good spirit and were determined not to give in.
16. I cannot describe their journey adequately. Perhaps they should give talks where they would be more free to give a full account.
17. With them went a Bernama team of four made up of three girl reporters and a cameraman. They too went through harrowing experiences. The journey from United Kingdom to Gaza took a month. The convoy carrying food medicine and construction materials was made up of more than 200 vehicles with nationals from seventeen countries driving.
18. The Perdana Global Peace Organiation’s team of five which drove an ambulance and three trucks across Europe to Gaza returned yesterday. It was a truly Malaysian team with a Chinese Malaysian, an Indian Malaysian and three Malays. They went through some tough times, having to sleep in the open in cold winter weather, no facilities for washing or bathing, no toilets.
19. This is the TRUE SPIRIT of UNITY for Satu Malaysia, Satu Malaysia, Satu Malaysia for mankind and greener earth before year 2020.
I am compelled to respond to jericho. S/He quoted: “who cares about this when in Malaysia, churches are being persecuted. 8 churches have been attacked so far by the followers of the religion of peace” unquote.
Now, who says that Malaysian leaders do not care about these incidents? The Prime Minister and even the Muslim NGOs have pledged to assist these non-Muslim/Christian to safeguard their worship places. Only narrow minded and negative thinking people will say that Malays are racist. Just think about this real scenario. When a group of malay employees of multi-national company grouped together for lunch or evening coffee, they are labelled as racist by the non-malays. But when a group of chinese employees grouped together for the same purpose, they are not labelled as racist.
Just recently, a friend of mine complained to me about the treatment he received working in a chinese dominated company in Malaysia. During a working meeting, this poor malay chap had to just ‘melopong’ as the rest of his chinese colleagues spoke in mandarin without a single respect for this poor malay chap. Can you imagine…??
Dear Tun,
I enjoy reading your perspectives on global issues, as your opinions are written with good intention and an objective view. I hope you will share many more things here.
I usually find Malaysians too muddled up in their own affairs and cares too little to do homework to find the truth of things and yet shouts out their views on things as if they were right.
And I find a lot of people on this blog, especially the ones who drop comments and blatantly agree with you, they suddenly give their opinions on things when they do not even align with the points you have made in your article.
I am not all-knowing as well. But I hope that you can show us more of the process of how you come to the conclusions of things you write. (Not that you don’t, just more) I think many Malaysians (especially me) will benefit from that.
Lastly, I would say keep up the good work. This site is good brain food when I need a clearer/alternative idea of things happening. Have a good day.
X.Rui
P.S. @Jericho. The things that are currently happening in Israel-Palestine have a bigger magnitude, involving larger forces of the world. Compared to the things currently in Malaysia, Malaysia’s commotions seem so childish, and your serious attitude towards it is definitely something we do not need to cultivate, IMO. Peace out.
Salam Tun.
Refering to posting by jericho on January 11, 2010 1:21 PM
…. in Malaysia, churches are being persecuted. 8 churches have been attacked ……
You’re mixing up things. Israel aggressions on the palestinian involve killings of innocent victims and has been going on for almost 50 years.
And you churches …. muslims were not taught to do this kind of things. Probably this are the doing of PR supporters to tarnish malaysia’s image internationally. Your Anwar Ibrahim is the master of such acts.
Thanks for the update Tun, though someone obviously is not thankful.
What’s happening in Gaza now could happen to us, if there are no respect between one religion and another.
Lakum Dinukum Waliyadin…..
dear Tun, i dont know if you read this website (attach below).
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24336.htm
VIVA! VIVA! PALESTINA!
Viva Palestina Starts Entry To Gaza
Wednesday January 06, 2010 21:28
Report by George Galloway
The Viva Palestina Convoy, and after facing ongoing Egyptian rejection and violent attacks by the Egyptian security forces, started on Wednesday evening to roll into the besieged Gaza Strip.
Thousands of Palestinians, carrying flowers and flags, gathered in the streets while the convoy continued to move in.
A Press conference would be held on Thursday and would be followed by the official ceremony of handing the international humanitarian aid.
The Qatar-based Al Jazeera reported that a convoy of eight truck started crossing the Rafeh Terminal.
On its website the Viva Palestina reported that
oh jericho, what do you mean by the churches have been attacked by the followers of the religion of peace? all religion teach their followers not to do the bad things rite.
Good humanitarian effort!
ASSALAMUALAIKUM TUN,
THANKS FOR INFORMING THE TRUE SCENERIO IN GAZA.UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THE WORLD CARE LESS.AS LONG OS THE OPPRESSED ARE MUSLIMS,THE WORLD TAKES “THEY DESERVE WHAT THEIR GETTING’STANCE.EVEN FELLOW MUSLIMS SEEM TO JOIN HANDS IN THIS MATTER.
IF THE WORLD MEDIA DARE TO EXPOSE THE CRUELTY,THEN MAYBE….WE CAN SHOW THE WORLD THE TRUTH.UNTIL THEN,LOOKS LIKE WE GOT TO DO IT ON OUR OWN.SO ALL THOSE REALLY INTRESTED IN THE TRUTH,LET’S START ONE STEP AT A TIME.
TUN TOLONG LEAD.INSYALLAH RAMAI SOKONG.GUNA MEDIA KITA.SAMPAI BILA MEDIA MALAYSIA HANDLE SIARAN2 SURE HEBOH,A.F,INILAH ITULAH.AJAK BUAT EXPOSE STANDARD DUNIA.WASSALAM
jericho..,
that happened coz one religion want to take other religion god name known as religion of peace..
why….???
becoz myb this is one of propaganda to make followers other religion easier to convert other religion just becoz ol prays with the same god…
hey common la…jgn main kotor…
najib pun same…sendiri kene ingt..bende cmni pun xleh handle….
…satu malaysia,pecah belah..
Assalammulaikum,
ROYALTI KOMISEN.
1. Saya dah habaq si cilaka Barry Wain dok jual nama gah Tok Det buat untung besaq satu dunia!
2. Sampaikan buku untuk buat display pun kena sapu semua!!!
3. Sudah diulang cetak kali ke-3!!!!
4. Siap pre-release order lagi tu!!!!
5. Kena cari jalan patenkan nama Tok Det cepat! Ada cadangan???
Tok Det milik kita Rakyat Malaysia.
Tok Det Negarawan Ulung Malaysia.
Jangan biarkan orang lain suka-suka salahguna nama Negarawan Malaysia untuk buat duit tanpa bertanggungjawab menjaga nama baik negarawan dan juga negara kita Malaysia!!!
PEMBELA
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who cares about this when in Malaysia, churches are being persecuted. 8 churches have been attacked so far by the followers of the religion of peace.
Dear Tun,
Congratulations on the success of the mission. truly, it has never been done on this scale before, and you did it. A big thank you also to the whole team of the convoy, who dare to endure the hardships they know they would face.
Malaysians are so proud of you all.
Tun,
Good to hear the team came back to Malaysia safely.
The fact that there is so little information from Gaza is disturbing. In this day and age of internet where information is shared freely the Gazan have no way to communicate their struggle of daily life.
I am not sure if we could Google Earth Gaza but I doubt it.
Salam Tun,
I still blame the arab countries for what happen in Gaza.They are still in sweet dream with their wealth given by God.Even Dubai projects are financed by Jews. In fact they have means to develop modern weapons themselves and get support of China and Russia. They even go against Iran.
OIC remains “Oh I See” and does not put heavy pressure on USA for the withdrawal of the Jews. For the Gazans they are helpless without foreign supports.
What can we do? Except pray. The aids given will definitely not last long.
Thank you.