International Medical University. I directed a major part of my talk
to the new graduates.
2. I explained that medicine is not just a profession, a qualification
for earning a good income. It is a vocation, a calling which involves
dedication to the job of healing the sick and caring for them.
3. What their qualification confers upon them is not just a degree but
as doctors they have been elevated to a special status and endowed
with special powers. They would have in them the capacity to inspire
confidence and trust in their patient. The confidence and trust are
such that people would literally entrust their lives to them, allowing
them to cut open their bodies and do things which could kill if done
by others.
which they were brought up and their access to education up to the
highest level. Not all human society can do this. A poor society, an
unstable society, an uncaring society would not be able to give them
even primary education, much less training to become a doctor. The
cost borne by the society is high.Whether they get a scholarship or
their parents pay for their education, they all owe a debt to society.
It behoves them to repay to society through the service in which they
are trained.
5. They should therefore be ready to offer their services to the
society in which they lived. It may be by serving the Government or if
this is not attractive enough, at least their country. They can earn a
good income in Malaysia’s private sector.
6. But some easily forget their debt and are easily enticed by higher
pay in other countries. These countries paid nothing for their
education and training and yet for a little bit more money they get
the services of the people we paid a lot to train whether in
Government school and universities or in private ones. Quite often the
countries which get the service of our doctors are developed and rich.
7. The nation loses a lot when the people we train opts to work in
other countries.
8. But the association of doctors make matters worse by refusing entry
to foreign doctors to practice. It wants to keep the opportunities for
making money in this country to its members only. It does not mind
Malaysian doctors going out but foreign doctors may not come in. Only
if they work with the Government can they come in.
9. The flow is one-way. Our doctors can leave the country but foreign
doctors cannot replace them. We are losing the brains that we develop
without the foreign brain coming in.
10. Despite all the Government’s efforts we are losing especially the
much-needed specialists.
11. There is something wrong here. If the Malaysian Medical
Association (MMA) wishes to close the country to outsiders then it
should also object to Malaysian doctors from leaving the country. As
it is the MMA seem to be wanting to have their cake and to eating it
as well.
12. I am not suggesting that as we have embraced globalisation and the
free flow of capital etc that we should now allow foreign doctors to
come and open their hospitals here. But I do think that if local
hospitals need to employ foreign doctors then they should be allowed
to.
Great post man! I always follow your blog because it is full of compelling information about various things. I like to read this post because I met so many new facts about it actually. It’s really great that I noticed this post. Thank you very much again for sharing this informative article. Many thanks,
dear tun,
this is my 1st time commenttating on ur blog,
anyway, to tell ya’ll the truth
to all the malaysia rakyat,
the government are unable to pay
high pay for the doctors because all the malay
doctors education are already spend on the government money,
just imagine, one of my collegue, studied in
IMU and cost her rm 400,000.
all she had to pay back is rm 4,000.
shit, 1 % only??….
but myself was partially sponsored by my parents
and since i started working, im paying
rm 2000 every month for the loan that
my mum took for me…
(a starting pay for a UD41 grade doc is rm4000 only)
above all i dont mind the gov spend that amount
of money for her for her education,(since its a ketuanan melayu thing)
but isnt she at least have to pay at least 50% of
the loan???…
Now ya’ll the rakyat malaysia tell me,
would or wouldnt will i take chance and go to oversea
if any opportunity came in my way??…
plus i only have left with rm 2000 for all
the rest of the shitty 30 days to go…??
By the way, ma dearest friend just bought a vios
for her last month…
ME???….
Re my comments on the 1st Sept, my son who is an aspiring doctor with FAMA (father, mother scholarship; we are not rich, just makan gaji but placing education as vital and not to deprive others more deserving) had put forward his comments and I would like to share this young generation thoughts without any parental emotional influence, as below:
Dear Tun, salam Ramadan selamat berpuasa harap sihat. Kiriman ini menjawab sebuah komen seorang pengirim dgn izin….
Pandangan pada komen ‘Dukun’ on August 24, 2009 9:53 AM dgn izin.
………………KAUM LAIN MENGUASAI POLITIK
Kira betul betul. Jumlah wakil kaum lain keseluruhan sebenarnya kurang dari PRU dulu! Cuma mrk beralih dari MCA GERAKAN MIC semua ke DAP/PKR. Wakil Melayu PKR menang dari kaum lain BN, menambah kerusi Melayu. PAS atau Umno menang tak rugi kerusi Melayu.
Dulu dlm MCA GERAKAN MIC wakil ini banyak membisu (krn sibuk jaga projek) tapi wakil pembangkang skrg banyak masa bersuara. Politik pembangkang bebas bersuara, bukan cara tikus BN takut hilang labu.
Umno saja tak biasa dgn ini melaung laung kuasa Melayu tergugat. Kerusi Umno diambil oleh Melayu PAS/PKR bukan DAP. Kata kuasa politik kaum lain bertambah dari segi jumlah kerusi tak tahu kira!
Kaum lain dah lama bercakap dgn Umno yg pekak badak, megah sombong. Mrk dah meluat dgn jenis Umno dan mula bermuafakat dgn PAS/PKR yg dulu dianggap lawan.
……………..RINTIHAN MINORITI
Mrk tidak puas hati dgn penyelewengan Umno bukan dengki bantuan untuk Melayu yg lemah dan ketinggalan. Umno saja giat memutar belit, memfitnah minoriti konon ingin mengongkong Melayu sampai sanggup kecam bangsa sendiri pengkhianat.
Kisah Ali Baba dan ketirisan dasar kroni Umno nak salahkan dan aniaya minoriti lagi. Orang makan nangka lain yg kena getah. Dah memang tahu dasar mudah dibelit dan diseleweng tapi diteruskan. Kenapa?
Dearest Tun,
Selamat Berpuasa.
It is so difficult to stop the outflow of doctors. Solution, pay them high and they will stay. I
Dengan izin Tun..Terima kasih.
ekompute
I am sorry for your loss.Care to consider my opinion?..
Most of us are end user.Meaning,we truly takes for granted everything that we use, in this sense Medical requirement.There is ample need for requirement in medical and health department.You could say we lack special Instituition like Heart ( IJN ) and Opthamology ( The Tun Hussein Onn National Eye Hospital ).
You did not realizes this until you and your relatives in dire needs of those requirement.To put it mildly..now you are in hot soup..
[[mild stroke]]
How many of us monitor our parent and relatives for sudden onset of stroke?
When elderly ( especially ) have high risk of unmonitored blood pressure and diabetic control, utmost care must be undertaken.Has he been eating proper diet? Has he taken proper medication? Has he had proper excercise and so on..
If the relatives cannot have proper chart on this monitoring,they should have proper monitoring in their mind.They should emphasizes on ..What if? He collapsed when nobody was around? What if..and so on..Hence when stroke or CVA ( Cerebro Vascular Attack ) happens most of us caught unprepared.
[[The doctor at the other end of the line said, “Bring him over quickly. We will operate on him. Remember to bring as much money as possible.”]]
In this sense, even rich cannot counter measured the damaged that have been done by ‘improper’ health monitoring.Nevertheless the ample amount of money that they have, can minimized the effect of any sudden onset of attack like stroke,CVA,cardiac ailment and so on.
For the poor and the needy, this is where health insurance plays vital role.The question the Dr will asks will be..”Bring him over quickly.We will operate on him.Remember to make sure his Health Insurance Policy is A scheme.”
Unfortunately most of us do not have this kind of information that can be acquired through Health Education.
Where do we get them? How to get them ?
Nowadays, self procurement I would says..
[[“Don’t worry,” the doctor said, “we guarantee that he will have no problems after the operations, just remember to bring as much as money as possible.”]]
If somebody declared this kind of promise, makes sure he or she documented them.It will come handy later on.
Finally..Does it all makes a difference when you have proper Health Education?
Yes you do and don’t find it the hard way because it’s truly pays to be prudent.
Thank you Tun.
Salam
Let’s be fair Tun.Malaysian doctors are overworked and the pay is not that good.Not too mention the physical as well as psychological health hazard that must be endured throughout.In my personal opinion, Malaysian patients are a demanding lot.This make life more difficult.Yes, we serve because we care about our pateints.Do you see any of us do ‘rusuhan’ as a result of discontentment regarding our low pay and long-hours of working? NO! That is because we care about our patients.But this must not be taken for grandted.In return, we hope that the government could show us some empathy and be sincere in rectifying the problem that we faced.Thank you
My dad had a mild stroke, his second, at the age of 83. My sister phoned a specialist at Wisma Maria, Johor Bahru to see what can be done as my dad was very weak and suffering.
The doctor at the other end of the line said, “Bring him over quickly. We will operate on him. Remember to bring as much money as possible.”
My sister told him that my dad was very weak and cannot survive an operation. He was grossly underweight because of a peptic ulcer operation that he had done years earlier.
“Don’t worry,” the doctor said, “we guarantee that he will have no problems after the operations, just remember to bring as much as money as possible.”
Did we bring our dad to the specialist centre? Of course not, although we know that he will have no problems after the operations. Die already, what problem? Anyway, my dad died three days later after being admitted to the Sultanah Aminah General Hospital.
Assalamualaikum Tun yang dihormati,
You have said a lot in recent years – similar to pensioners but during your 22 years in office you cannot even tell MMA to fly kite. Who are they? Bunch of personal interest doctors keeping the cake to themselves similar to lawyers, architect and all other so called professional bodies. Let other professional people come and work here and let the principle of survival of the fittest avail. We the businessmen do not enjoy such a protectionsim and we have to compete with the Japanese, British, Germans, Americans and others in business but we survived due to our business prowess.
Now you are telling Najib to tell the Minister of Health to tell the MMA that it is high time they close MMA and open the market. Maybe in another 22 years or with another PM.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
firstly I have to disagree with your opinion regarding MMA role in health situation in Malaysia. As an active member, I am obliged to say that MMA strive to protect doctors in Malaysia. I do think we as the Malaysian doctors, especially in the government sector were underpaid and under appreciated. Most of the government doctors still sit well in the middle class and although under a new health minister, the salary increase, it is much less compare to our colleagues in the private sector and the salaries the doctors in Australia or Singapore had. You as an ex-doctor should realize that MMA have their own reasons to prevent the foreigners from taking over the positions that should belong to Malaysians. I had personally experienced working with some foreign doctors and specialists. Some of them even had low quality than us. Example like 1 surgeon from middle east unable to do simple appendicectomy that can be done by my junior MO friend in Gua Musang. What’s worse was they expect more than they can give. I am not judging their knowledge but how does this group of non-speaking Malay able to help Malaysians and understand well whats the real problem. There was a story where 1 foreign doctor mistakenly give medication to 1 of my patient. They also need more help and sometimes make the staff nurses not doing their job due to a lot of their time helping the foreigners. I am not suggesting that all foreign doctors are bad but there are ways we can fulfilled the spaces for doctors in Malaysia.
1. Increase the paycheck
2. Give government doctors in clinical field clear pathways of rise in rank without having to change to management.
3. The doctors in the management must be less burdened with paperwork and encouraged to involve in clinical work
4. Huge budget must be made for healthcare and please no more hospital but more on human resources like doctors allowance, paycheck rise, bonuses and benefits.
5. Give rebate to doctors on daily living needs like petrol, mobile connection, taxes and food.
6. Stop quarelling negligence persay but more on patients care and health
7. Give more attention to doctors need than what the patient needs as good doctors meant a good healthcare to the patient.
8. Sent more dedicated doctors outside to learn for masters (send doctors who want to learn and spend time in Malaysia later ;not doctors who cannot commit to Malaysian needs)
9. Stop harassing doctors, let us do the job, just give us the opportunities, time and supports (financially, emotionally and logistically), the Malaysian doctor can prevail as the best in the world
Tun, we need you as a supporter. Please do more survey on us before judging us. Thank you – [email protected]
Dear Tun, salam Ramadan selamat berpuasa harap sihat. Minta izin memberi pandangan pada sebuah komen di sini….
Pandangan pada ‘Dukun’ on August 24, 2009 9:53 AM dgn izin.
………………..PENCURI SORAK API
Minta hapuskan kuota yg membiak Melayu rapuh, dipusing nak tarik balik hak Melayu. Bukan tarik bantuan pada Melayu tujuannya, cuma alih pada bantu yg miskin dan perlu. Kalau 100% Melayu yg layak biarlah, kenapa had 30%? Sebenarnya mudah untuk bagi Umnoputera tak layak!
Cerita kaum tamak mengambil dari Melayu, dakyah Umno sibuk hal perkauman, (demi kuasa bahagi kekayaan), bukan mendidik kaum untuk maju. Kuat menuduh sendiri buat apa? Hanya pandai bahagikan projek, saham dan permit.
Cara pembahagian wang cukai tak boleh samakan dgn modal persendiriran.Wang cukai milik semua untuk bantu yg kurang berada bukan pertuankan sesiapa. Ini falsafah Negaraan. Wang persendirian bebas nak tuankan mana mana sanak saudara.
Hujah yg sanggup kira sumber pendapatan tidak bermoral sebagai menunjukkan kaum sendiri tersepit, ketinggalan sudah hilang iman dan kurang akal. Larangan agama merugikan kamu? Mcm sindir agama sendiri?
………………..BERSULTAN DGN SAHAM
Pakai pegangan saham petunjuk penguasaan ekonomi adalah kerja bodoh, mcm kucing kejar ekor. Dah jelas sudah di permainkan 40thn. Mcm minta kanak kanak simpan gula gula. Kalau dimakan kita beri lagi, sampai bila dia kaya gula? Masih tak faham?
Hanya Melayu yg betul betul jujur ikhlas akan simpan saham itu. Nak untung jual, nak jadi hamba pegang. Lepas jual dapat untung beli mahligai, umrah berkala, lawat luar negara, kereta mewah, labur di Australia. Usah risau boleh minta lagi krn pegangan saham di kira sudah jadi kosong!!
Ini dasar bagi monyet pisang! Tengok gelagat monyet diberi pisang di taman bunga P. Pinang dan K. S’gor. Dia balut dan simpan baik baik? Lebih makna ajar monyet petik buah pisang dari cabut tandan pisang. Kalau beri pisang padanya, manusia yg tak ada akal, bukan monyet itu!
Dear Tun,
Salam Ramadan,
Ramadan Mubarak,
Ramadan Kareem,
Selamat Berpuasa,
If we regard Doctors as commodities they will go where the price is right. Whether is just to go the for work, yet retaining his/her citizenship or to uproot and leave Malaysia for good.
The decision is the individual’s.
As you have mentioned – let them go if they want to BUT at the sametime LET those from other countries come if they want to. Its as simple as that.
Creating barriers causes cost to go up with out any increase in quality. This causes the doctor’s pay in Private Hospitals to go up.
Goverment pay cannot follow suite as the goverment is committed to providing cheap medical care to the citizens of malaysia. Imagine if Governments hopsital have to compete with private hospitals – the govt doctor pay need to go up. with that the facilities and everything else needs to be upgraded to optimise this expensive doctors.
This will cause public medical care cost to go over the roof – as have happened in Singapore and some other countries.
Who will bear this cost? Do we charge the public? Can the public afford it? Does the govt bear the cost – then taxes will need to go up.
So those who needs to go – please go and don’t pass judgement on anyone else. Its your decision for you own personal reasons. What is certain if you up root than go in peace. But if you feel money or other push factors is no more an issue you are welcome to come back – as we MUST also be welcoming any qualified doctors from any part of the world into Malaysia.
So the Medical Association take heed. Your decision will affect negatively or positively the very people you are avowed to take care of thru your oath.
Please don’t be shortsighted and save the person in the Hospital bed but kill the many more people who needs cheap medical care.
Salam Tun,
Since you are (or were) in the medical profession, I have a question. How come Cuba has the highest doctor-per-population rate in the world?
All of our universities are fully operational. Year in and year out, all the medical faculties are teaching and training university students to become doctors. If the doctoring course is on going, what is happening then to all the doctors ? There should not be a shortage of supply of local doctors. Once a graduated and trained doctor is accepted by the Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam and he or she works in the government hospital, he or she is bound by a contract of at least a few years. Within that few years, newly graduated doctors are coming in. Question is where did all the locally qualified doctors go to ? The issue here is locally qualified doctors. Not Malaysian doctors trained overseas. But if you plus locally graduated doctors and overseas
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
By kwang10Author Profile Page on August 22, 2009 11:50 AM
Dear Dr M,
…
I googled very hard to know our Malaysian system very well but received no information, no promising information at all…is very kelang kebut (if my malay still correct). At the same time, every part of the world is wooing physicians to their country. It is a free world and everyone of us make a decision which will suit us better. I received a contact from Singapore regarding the position offer, I was so touched and so excited but at the same time, why M’sian government never come to find me ?
….
Ex-Malaysian
DR. KWANG SIR,
READING YOUR STORY REALLY MADE US FEEL FRUSTRATED AND SAD.
FRUSTRATED WITH THE APATHETIC BUNCH OF MALAYSIAN GOVERMENT OFFICIALS RESPONSIBLE… AND SAD TO LOSE A TRULY ‘ANAK JATI’ MALAYSIA. ALTHOUGH YOU NO LONGER CARRY A MALAYSIAN PASSPORT, YOUR BLOOD AND SOUL IS STILL A MALAYSIAN…
IT REALLY HURTS TO LOSE A PRODIGAL SON AND DOCTOR OF YOUR CALIBRE DUE TO THE ‘TIDAK APA’ ATTITUTES OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE TO STOP THE BRAIN DRAIN.
WE BELIEVE THEY ARE MANY MORE DR. KWANG SOMEWHERE IN THEIR ADOPTED COUNTRY BUT THEIR HEARTS ARE ALWAYS AT HOME IN MALAYSIA, THE LAND ‘WHERE I WAS BORN’.
WE THINK ‘FOREIGNERS’ LIKE YOUR GOODSELF SHOULD ALWAYS BE WELCOME BACK TO SERVE AS A LEGITIMATE CITIZEN.
MAY THE ALMIGHTY BLESS YOUR FAMILY AND YOU WITH GOOD HEALTH, HARMONY, PROSPERITY AND SECURITY ALWAYS.
Dear Tun,
I think there is a misunderstanding with regards to the intention of our medical students coming back to serve the country after they graduate. Money is not everything although it may be important. Eventhough money may be important, it boils down to the management of the whole issue. A government medical scholar sent to the UK and Ireland costs about RM 1.2 million currently per student for five year medical course. After graduation, this student may not be very competent to cure because they have just graduated. They only have the basic theoretical knowledge of being a doctor, eventhough they may have acquired a degree in Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. They need to attain a specialist qualification, then only they are truly a qualified doctor. This means they have to go through at least two years foundation of Housemanship, then maybe another three years to pass MRCP Specialist Examination. If we hurry these students to come back immediately after graduation, they may not be of good quality doctors. The government has to be patient and allow these medical students to pursue their studies until they become specialists. Then only require them to come back. The cost to the government is only up to five years bachelor level. Housemanship and specialist qualification is obtained while working. It is not deniable that the standard of medical practice in the West is better than in Malaysia. Having a bachelor degree without specialist qualification a doctor is only half baked. If you want world class doctors. let our fresh medical graduates do their houseman in advanced countries. These countries have better and up-to date methods in medical science. If you were to ask them to come back after their 5 year course and be trained by Malaysian doctors, we will get Malaysian-trained doctors. It defeats the whole purpose of sending Malaysian doctors overseas in the first place. The money spent in doctors trained in advanced countries are worth every cent as the knowledge and experience they bring back not only save lives but uplift the standard of doctoring in our home country. What is money compared to life. Only less than 1 percent of our population have the intelligence, ability and quality to be a good qualifed specialist.
In order to attract Malaysian Specialists working overseas, the government should device a scheme reasonable and suitable to their worth as a specialist, not undervalue or underpay these specialists. I sincerely believe most doctors if they’re well trained must be very caring. This is the main attribute of a medical student before they are admitted as a medical student in a UK University. Any student wishing to take up medicine must attend an interview to gauge the suitability of their attitude as a future doctor unlike in Malaysia where the students are admitted based on academic result alone.
MMA restricting foreign doctors from coming and serve in Malaysia is appropriate and reasonable. They must have their own good reason to do so. We should not doubt their sincerity or accusing them for being selfish. They have a duty to ensure the minimum standard is obtained in the medical practice in Malaysia. This is not all about money. it is about standard and life. If we simply allow doctors from any country to come into Malaysia, the qualification as a doctor may be doubtful. The terminology used may be different and the procedure may be different. This may result in death or fatality. Let us not do a quick fix. We have our own capabilities to train our own doctors. There are so many Malaysian specialist doctors in UK, and other Western countries. We only have to attract them back with suitable remuneration. The average doctors in UK earns at least 3000 GBP. In Malaysia if we pay half the converted value plus the freedom to do locum we should be able to attract these doctors back. Lets not be negative. The government or health ministry should have initiative, proactive and positive minded about the whole issue by conducting roadshows, tracking down these specialist doctors on a personal basis through their families and relatives in Malaysia as contacts. Be flexible with the terms of offer. We have so many Malaysian specialists doctors in Singapore, Australia, UK and Ireland. In harnesting medical experties, we should increase not only the quantity but enhance the quality as well by roping in and going after these elite specialists. Imagine if we have 20 world class Nobel prize winners in the field of medicine, we would be looked upon very highly not only by our peers but by advanced countries too. Don’t be jealous of our young professionals. Treat them with respect for their ability and achievement. I have a daughter who is doing Housemanship in UK hospital and a son second year medical student in UK. I am sure they will not want to live forever in the foreign land. All of them want to come back and serve the country.
amin tan
Apa yang saya perhatikan masalah doktor dimalaysia ini , ialah masalah pengurusan , masalah cara bekerja , masalah pengetahuan , masalah menyelesaikan sesuatu masalah serta masalah komunikasi , itu yang menampakkan kelemahan sesebuah Hospital. Doktor dengan masalah duit yang tak pernah dianggap cukup atau tak tahu bersyukur ( hanya sebilangan sahaja ) . Matron pula masalah suka mengherdik jururawat tanpa mengira penat lelah jururawat itu , Sister pula masalah kekurangan pekerja serta kurang berpengetahuan dari segi pengurusan , Jururawat pula masalah semua kerja yang dia kena buat ( termasuk kerja-kerja doktor nasib tak baik kerja sister pun kena buat ) dengan masalah shif petang naik ke pagi ( penatlah kawan tu ), bekerja dalam pengurusan yang berserabut atau kelam kabut , dari doktor , matron hingga ke Sister asyik mengarah jururawat serta ditambahkan junior yang berlagak pandai dengan senior . Medical asistant pula berlagak macam doktor , tak tahu apa kerja yang dia buat kat hospital itu , melilau sana melilau sini , ( lebih sibukkan masa membetul mesin dari pesakit ) Pembantu perawatan kesihatan pula tak pernah ada tempat dia bertugas , sehingga nak ambil pesakit pun jururawat yang kena .
Inilah masalah yang berlaku sebenarnya , Adakalanya kita lihat doktor hanya berpeluk tubuh sahaja , seolah olah geli hendak memegang pesakit disekitarnya walaupun diwaktu kecemasan .
Dear Tun, salam Ramadan selamat berpuasa harap sihat. Kiriman saya untuk topik ini….
…………GLOBAL TREND
Human capital flows just like financial capital. All developing countries face a talent drain to developed countries (look at S’pore, Hong Kong, India). The elite and well to do of such countries tend to migrate to developed countries for a better environment and this tide is unstoppable.
To grovel before these people to stay is futile. Govt. there know this. To counter the flow the govt assists the disadvantaged to excel as replacement. The disadvantaged group present lower risk of migration. But when there is no more disadvantaged group to tap, they resort to selective immigration of talent.
…………COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM
M
To kamal ahmad,catitan Tuan amat bernas dan mempunyai lateral thinking umpama Dr M.Sepatutnya catitan begini Tuan muatkan di blog AI supaya org P K R boleh PIKIR mana yang batil.Tapi saya rasa anda akan kena kutuk berterusan,tetapi tak salah mencuba….nothing to loose.
Adam
just to argue on the fact you raised – so he sent one of his sons to Japan – what about the other son? what about his daughter? What about the younger children?
I guess, one can argue it being the case “not having too many eggs in one basket eh”. Or is it to just set the perception he is subscribing to the very look east policy he captioned?
Is it the same perception setting of his catch-cry – “bersih, cekap, amanah” which was another of his theme under his Prime Ministership?
Adam, perception is indeed reality – hence why magicians wave one hand while they quickly slip the object they wish to hide with their other.
However, thanks for enlightening me that Tun sent one of his kids to Japan, while omitting the bigger picture…
Coming back to the blog argument in itself …. For being able to afford sending his kids overseas to study – I say good on him for being able to afford it.
His kids now have access to the bigger world with their overseas education other than the wealth the have. That is the “passport” that any parent would want to give given the circumstances the standard of Malaysian living and education is today.
So, why can’t we, proud Malaysia truly live by another catch-cry that Tun left us with – “Malaysia boleh”, and make our education standard world class.
If only we built fewer skyscrappers and spent the funding on improved public schooling, or while establishing a world class under utilised airport also established a world class education hub in South East Asia, you and I might be proud enough to send our kids to University Malaysia Sarawak, instead of University of Sussex.
Well, the country is now busy arguing if we should be learning technical subjects in Malay, English, Mandarin or Tamil instead of focusing progressive development of education.
We started a program that Tun proudly claims as his legacy, however due to poor implementation, it gets scrapped with excuses that it’s implementation was wrong.
While I appreciate Tun taking the Govt to task on this 360 degree about turn, not one of you devotees dare question if only the program had the correct strategy in the first place, would we have been seeing this backtrack?
Instead, most of you are incensed by the present Govt. Why? Why blame the present Govt? Why ONLY blame the present Govt.?
Why don’t you question if only the vision was laid down with a clear execution plan, might it have been scrapped? Could Tun have mandated the Education Ministry to ensure it’s strategy be more robust and implemented long term than try to just roll it out?
The more loyal of you Tun devotees will chastise me – that’s your right in being loud without trying to understand the alternate point of view. That too is a by-product of our Malaysian Education system…
(Ravi)
Dengan izin Tun..Terima kasih..
Nice posting gubelin.Thank you.
Hear my 2 cent’s of worth.
Some Dr achieved their profession by other mean than compassion.
When I mentioned this criteria the Dr in particular said..”You mean empathy?”..
I do not need to elaborate that compassion is the essence of the Medical Profession.He clearly indicates the mentality of some Dr regarding..
“When you performs an operation,you must detach yourselves from any emotion towards the subject.Only then you can apply your professionalism to the optimum”.
By contrast, the compassionate Medical Practitioner ( there is a BIG difference between them and the Dr )takes all cases like they treats their own family..See the differences between the two..
To capped to their ego,this Dr proudly said that..”There is two kind of people in the world.Dr and non Dr”..His statement summed it up.
Here in Malaysia there is another kind of Dr.
The one who play God.This is more so in Psychiatric Department.I cannot again elaborate.Suffice to say,if you are brave enough ‘masquarading’ as a mentally unsound patient, you will be given a hell of time.
The whole point is,it is tough being a government servant.A civil,hardworking,sincere and compassionate at that.Being a Dr would capped it all.Tun is a living testimony of this statement.
A Dr is a top dog of his or her profession.They says it is lonely at top.Specialist is doubly lonely in this fields.The issues Tun mentioned does not helps and the people outside the profession can only second guessing of why they do this and does not do that..
It pained me to tell what actually happens from Non Medical Personnel of view.In the wards especially the surgical wards, Dr and all the medical personnel really are pushed and stretch to the limit.And yet they performs admirably.
So..despite their silence and continues being the unsung heroes,public should starts and learn to appreciates medical personnel.
One of the crux matter of Medical problem in Malaysia is contingencies.Have you realizes how big Ministry of Health is? Logistic alone gives the administrator the headache.And it sure does not help by being populated by the ‘above’ kind of Dr.
I notice some ‘unlearned’ public cries for the removal of Tan Sri Dr Ismail Marican.Our Health DG.Don’t you know he is one kind of rare Dr?Some Dr becomes administrator and no longer practices.A loss to the public.He is an Administrator and still treats patients..
Some says ignorance is a bliss.For me it is a sin.
Consequently Tun mentioned Dr should stay home or make other’s made their home here.I just one thing to say..Palestinian and GAZAN Dr are the best examples.Instead of running, they stay and tried their damn to make sure the people have as humanely as possible available medical treatment.No carrot or stick.Just pure love.Money? What Dr in Palestinian gets??
And people like Dr Jemilah who founded MERCY makes Malaysia proud.
“So..Instead of complaining,maybe you should help”..Dutch.Predator.1986.
Terima kasih Tun.The Greatest Dr and Medical Practitioner of all!!
Salam Ramadan buat YAB Tun berdua.
Izinkan saya Tun.
Buat Dr. Mohd Tarmizi Ahmad or Tuanku (Author Profile Page on August 23, 2009 1:18 AM)
Saya akan gunakan bahasa Melayu. Saya harap Dr masih boleh berbahasa Melayu walaupun Dr sudah lama di rantau orang.
1. Saya kecewa dengan pendirian Dr walaupun Dr merupakan orang Melayu yang mempunyai keupayaan yang cukup tinggi.
2. Daripada senarai sebab-sebab kegagalan dalam negara yang berlaku, Dr nyatakan adalah DEB, salah guna kuasa, BN dan bermacam-macam lagi.
3. Tidak dinafikan kesemua masalah yang Dr huraikan memang berlaku. Namun saya kira keupayaan Dr yang begitu tinggi itu melengkapkan jati diri Dr untuk berhadapan dengan masalah ini.
4. Kami (yang rendah kemampuan dan keupayaan) mengharapkan orang seperti Dr untuk membela kami supaya kebajikan kami terpelihara.
5. Tapi apa yang terjadi, keadaan di Malaysia telah menyebabkan Dr merajuk dan memilih untuk sanggup menetap di negara orang lain. Apatah lagi di negara orang lain Dr dibayar dengan pendapatan yang tentunya lebih tinggi daripada negara sendiri, tempat tumpah darah.
6. Ketahuilah wahai Dr, Tuhan tidak akan memberi kepada kita secara percuma. Kita dituntut untuk menggunakan nikmat-nikmat pemberianNya semula melalui amalan fardu ain dan fardu kifayah.
7. Tindakan Dr ‘melarikan diri’ seperti tidak reda dengan kelebihan yang telah dianugerahkan Tuhan kepada Dr.
8. Atau ibarat seperti seorang nabi yang tidak mahu berdakwah kepada umatnya kerana terlalu banyak kepincangan dalam umatnya, seperti yang Dr huraikan.
9. Adakah ini hasilnya dari keupayaan yang cukup tinggi Dr miliki. Apabila Dr menuding jari menyalahkan orang lain, Dr sama seperti mereka yang hanya tahu menyalahkan orang lain tanpa memikirkan sumbangan diri sendiri yang dapat bantu menyelesaikan.
10. Walaupun negara kerugian apabila banyak di kalangan Dr tempatan bekerja di negara lain tapi dalam kes ini saya kira negara kita gagal melahirkan insan-insan yang mempunyai keupayaan yang tinggi ini tadi, jiwa yang besar yang sanggup berkorban dan menyumbang semula pada negara tercinta. Tentunya melalui rintangan-rintangan, tapi itulah gunanya kelebihan dan keupayaan yang dimiliki.
11. Jika tiada sebab-sebab lain penetapan Dr di tempat orang, Dr hanya tahu ambil jalan mudah dengan melarikan diri dari kenyataan.
Selamat Berpuasa Dr.
Sekian, terima-kasih.
Assalamualaikum Tun..
Saya doakan supaya Tun dan Isteri sihat dan ceria selalu..Saya tak mau komen pasal topik ni tapi cuma nak ucap Selamat Berpuasa kt Tun sekeluarga..Bila Tun nak pegi Pasar Ramadhan Putrajaya, nak jumpa dan salam ngn Tun..
Selamat Pagi Tun,
People luv visiting doctors because of the MC
SALAMMM SIR!!!
SOMETHING LIKE,KACANG LUPAKAN KULIT!!!
AM I RIGHT!!?
SALAMMM!!!
Salam Tun,
Selamat menyambut bula ramadan… jarang tun keluar TV sekarang… apa kata buat Chedet TV online… as a National Gallery for future referance dan sebagai khazanah untuk generasi muda yang akan datang.
Sekian,
ANDAIAN sebelum ini bahawa kaum Cina hanya berminat untuk menguasai ekonomi sementara kuasa politik akan terus dipegang oleh orang Melayu, nampaknya tidak lagi begitu.
Pasca Pilihan Raya Umum Ke-12 membuktikan bahawa banyak pihak kaum Cina sedang mengasak habis-habisan untuk turut sama menguasai politik negara ini.
Makin banyak petunjuk ke arah itu termasuk menerusi laporan media tertentu khususnya berbahasa Cina yang mempromosi sentimen sedemikian. Mesej yang boleh dibaca ialah banyak kalangan kaum Cina sudah tidak berpuas hati dengan sekadar menguasai ekonomi?
Persoalannya apakah yang akan berlaku jika kaum Cina juga menguasai politik dan di mana kedudukan Melayu nanti? Awang lontarkan persoalan ini untuk renungan kita semua lebih-lebih lagi kedudukan Melayu kini makin kritikal.
Apa sahaja yang tinggal pada Melayu mahu dirungkai termasuk yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan negara. Realitinya walaupun Melayu menguasai politik tetapi yang lebih berkuasa di negara ini adalah kaum Cina disebabkan penguasaan dalam ekonomi yang amat ketara.
Di sebalik banyak rungutan terhadap dasar kerajaan, sebenarnya kaum Cina paling banyak mendapat nikmat. Dasar Ekonomi Baru (DEB) yang dilaksanakan sebelum ini hanya memberikan kouta 30 peratus kepada bumiputera tetapi penguasaan 70 peratus terus dinikmati oleh masyarakat usahawan Cina yang sudah membentuk kartel mega, selain berlaku gejala ali baba dan ketirisan dalam 30 peratus kouta bumiputera.
Jika Melayu dibantu dalam bidang perniagaan ia dianggap tongkat tetapi jika syarikat-syarikat Cina diselamatkan oleh kerajaan, ia didiamkan sahaja. Jika banyak usahawan bukan Melayu mendapat bisnes monopoli seperti gula, stesen televisyen satelit, stesen janakuasa bebas dan sebagainya sehingga menjadi kaya raya dan mengalihkan berbilion ringgit ke luar negara, ia juga tidak mengapa. Jika ada usahawan Melayu cuba menceburi bidang penguasaan usahawan Cina seperti membekalkan limau, ia akan diboikot sampai gagal. Namun jika ada usahawan bukan Melayu menguasai bisnes seperti pengedaran produk daging dan ayam halal, yang melibatkan pasaran orang Islam, itu dianggap biasa.
Penguasaan Cina dalam syarikat-syarikat swasta dan persendirian selain mengutamakan pekerja kaum itu juga bukan isu. Pada masa yang sama majoriti Melayu di sektor awam makin hebat dipersoalkan malah terus diperlekehkan.
Awang bukanlah mahu bersikap rasis. Apa yang disuarakan ini sekadar menyanggah gelombang fitnah, tohmahan dan persepsi liar banyak pihak terhadap usaha meningkatkan pencapaian bumiputera, yang masih jauh ketinggalan berbanding kaum Cina.
Begitulah kebijaksanaan banyak pihak kaum Cina berpercaturan. Dalam mereka mengeluh dan merintih, mereka terus kaya dan berkuasa. Kouta untuk bumiputera mahu dihapuskan tetapi ‘kouta khas’ bukan bumiputera seperti bisnes berkaitan pusat hiburan, arak, judi dan maksiat yang mereka kuasai selama ini, tidak boleh disentuh sama sekali.
Pada hari ini, kaum Cina yang merupakan 24 peratus penduduk negara ini menguasai ekonomi. Tradisi dan budaya niaga yang lama terpahat selain dasar kerajaan yang terbuka, membolehkan kaum Cina terus melonjak. Masyarakat Cina mempunyai simpanan wang yang banyak berbanding kaum lain dan itulah antara asas kekuatan ekonomi kaum itu. Sedangkan Melayu yang merupakan kaum majoriti terus keciciran. Bayangkan seketika jika Melayu lenyap kuasa politik?
Dear Tun,
One of the main reasons you had been successful in facing the financial & economic crisis of your time – was precisely because you approached these problems as a well trained and experienced medical doctor.
You explored all the possible causes of the problem (sickness). You verified these possible causes. You zero in on the most probable and again verified the remedies is correct. Then you prescribed the correct one to solve the problem (cure the sickness).
This was apart from the way the IMF and World Bank Economist went about it. They had a set mind (as they have been trained that way) and a limited set of remedies/medicine in their bag. They would most often than not prescribe – belt tightening, opening up trade, democracatic elections, taking loans from them, etc..
The human body as the national economy are very complex systems which requires a holistic approach to cure problems in it. Just as a doctor was trained to do.
The same cannot be said of training for economist.
What Malaysia can learn from Tun and what Tun did during the economic crisis is – create an Economics Faculty in Uni Malaysia or any other Uni – which training will be geared toward that of a doctor when solving economic problems. A ground breaking approach to train new economist to solve the world economic problems. A World Class school of economics.
Salam Dr Mahathir,
Inilah tajuk tajuk utama Utusan dan Umno pada bulan puasa(ramadan)menghina dan mengutuk kaum lain..dan politiking tak habisx2 dalam bulan yang mulia bagi kaum islam…
Presiden Pertubuhan Pribumi Perkasa Malaysia (Perkasa), Datuk Ibrahim Ali berkata, kerajaan negeri tidak sepatutnya membenarkan kuil dibina di kawasan yang majoriti penduduknya beragama Islam.
Beliau berkata, walaupun Perlembagaan memberikan hak kebebasan beragama kepada setiap individu tetapi mereka tidak boleh melampaui batas sehingga boleh menggugat keharmonian negara.
Salam Tun and family selamat menunaikan fardhu puasa tahun ini
To all doctors, please avoid 7 sins of medical profesional.
Tak lama Tun, tiba masanya…. sirih pulang ke gagang jua.
SELAMAT MENYAMBUT BULAN RAMADHAN AL MUBARAK.
SELAMAT MENYAMBUT HARI KEMERDEKAAN
Dear Tun, salam Ramadan selamat berpuasa harap sihat. Kiriman saya untuk tajuk ini…
………………..BETRAYAL
If it is the Malay govt sponsored doctors, we should ask the commenters who labelled minorities as traitors, ungrateful, unpatriotic, greedy. What should we label these doctors? What about all the govt aided graduates sent overseas who refused to return (or delayed their return to enjoy foreign hospitality).
Minorites contributed tax revenue and services to this country, what did the above people give back to the country? Who is labelled traitor, ungrateful? Siapa makan darah tanah Melayu? Or they have a higher right of ‘sin’ against the country which others not entitled?
………………..MIGRATION
If it is the self sponsored other races, their departure could be encouraged by the type of racial comments here. Comments hounding minorities out, threats to citizenship, claiming racial supremacy, wanting negara Melayu Raya etc. With these type of comments in this blog, do you expect the doctors to come back or refuse a better offer? Ask yourself sincerely!
The minorities are taught this is their country, where they are born, where they will bleed till death (read their comments insisting M’sian identity). The Malays are taught minorities are bounty hunters who can be chased away (read their comments on pendatang).
………………OPEN DOOR POLICY
Well qualified foreign doctors (not ordinary ones which we have) should be allowed to be employed by private hospitals. We can counterbalance via quotas the outgoing doctors with similar no of foreign doctors if we fear the incoming tide?
DEar Tun,
Selamat Berpuasa,
1) In Malaysia , it is common for the society looking for greener pasture, like most of us from Kedah, Kelantan trying to have better future with better opportunities to sustain a family will be staying and working in the Klang Valley. Soon the Syawal will significantly withdraw us back to hometown and balik kampong will begin.
2) I have a few friends from Norway. They are all scattered in China, and everywhere. They are encourage to work abroad and come back home for holiday and count their money and claims. They need to be in their country for at least 20 years ( not very sure ) to claim their social security fund. Some are young families, some have several jobs (representing some companies from their country, with some new invention or services)
I was told by some of them, it is humiliating for them to be in their country and not working. There are only 2.5 million of them and they are different.
Example: The Deep Sea Ship owners only need to fulfill their quota of catch , eg. Tuna. some of them with sophiscated ship can achieve the quota in 4 months!. The rest of the year , they will do something else abroad.
I believe earning in foreign currencies like Euro or even Sing$ its good to spend in Malaysia, but earning in KL and spending in Alor Setar make not much different nowadays.
Lets bring back those Pound, Euro , USD, S$ and invest in Malaysia.
I suspect the network of Singaporean are investing in Malaysia and they are in retails of the Major Departmental Stores, farm in Johore and Cameron Highland and many more. They are individuals and private companies. These are beside the big boys like OCBC, OUB , Temasek etc..
Thanks
halimsagrod
http://www.youtube.com/sagrodasia
Salam,
Tun, apa kata kalau kerajaan Msia dengan kerajaan Britain dan Ireland buat MOU. Suruh depa check dulu status graduate doktor samada dibawah tajaan kerajaan Msia atau tidak semasa pengajian sebelum diterima application untuk temuduga bekerja dengan National Health Service (NHS) atau dengan Ireland.
Kalau dibawah tajaan, tolak sebulat-bulatnya application depa ni. Ini hanya cadangan saya, mungkin Tun atau yang lain ada cadangan lebih baik.
Wasalam
So much have been discussed about medical doctors. What about politicians? What qualities they are supposed to possess? What are their do’s and don’ts. Unlike medical doctors (who normally have most of the qualities needed), the politicians, on the other hand , rarely satisfy the average qualities expected from them.
The major qualities of a clean politician could be listed as follows:-
Honesty
Sincerity
Caring
Possesses leadership qualities
Influential (Positive)
Well respected
Dedicated
Reliability
Accountable
etc
If we were to give our grading to the politicians around us, many of them would not meet the minimum standard. Maybe, it could be that the politician with the above qualities would not last long and would be toppled by their rivals.
We could also notice that people who are clean and honest quit politics prematurely and decide to retire or get involved in social movements.
Politicians should be prepared to do just about anything to keep their position and power. A slight slip could be disastrous to the politician.
The negative aspects of being a politician are inevitable unless majority of the politicians agree to change.
So, who is going to get the ball rolling (Top to bottom or bottom to top).
Salam,
Tun, apa kata kerajaan Msia dgn kerajaan Britain dan Ireland buat MOU. Sebelum graduate doktor pelajar-pelajar Msia ni ditemuramah utk bekerja di National Health Service (NHS) di UK atau di Ireland, suruh depa check dulu samada mereka ni ditaja atau tidak oleh kerajaan Msia.
Kalau ditaja, tolak sebulat-bulatnya application mereka ni. Saya tak nampak cara lain utk mereka balik serve dgn kerajaan Msia.
Wasalam.
Sungguh Melucukan! KAKI RASUAH SENDIRI MARAHKAN KAKI RASUAH LAIN, KAKI PENYAPU KUTUK BOS SENDIRI, KAKI PUKUL PEREMPUAN CAKAP PASAL BUAT TINDAKAN YANG BETUL! HAHAHAHA! SUNGGUH LUCU SURAT KHABAR MELAYU SEKARANG INI!
KHALID GAGAP, YOU TERUSKAN SAJA BUAT KERJA MACAM BIASA. SEBAB SEMUA YANG KRITIK YOU MEMANG TAK ADA TOKOH PUN. GET YOUR LAWYERS TO BUY TIME, THEN YOU SELIT IN FEW UMNO VVIPS NAME IN THE CASE. YOU PUN MEMANG KAKI RASUAH KHALID, TAPI SEBAB YANG RASUAH LAGI TERUK DAN TERBUKA TAPI TERLEPAS CUBA NAK
Salam YAB dan Di Kasihi Tun,
Minta izin Tun sebab terkeluar topik:
1. Lega/bangga saya bila lihat Tun memakai topeng hidung dan mulut semalam
After watching the Lingam video, I don’t hold much faith in our courts especially if political interest are involve. More so if the case goes to Federal court.
Salam,
Patrotism died the day Mr. Anwar became the education minister. I admire you a lot TUN but like in your previous blog you did mention that you are human and you have made your mistakes in the past. I feel the biggest mistake you did was to allow Anwar in the cabinet.
I am sorry but thats how i feel.
http://asrajosen.blogspot.com/
“What their qualification confers upon them is not just a degree but as doctors they have been elevated to a special status and endowed with special powers”
Salam Tun,selamat berpuasa..
Ayat Tun diatas buat saya nak timbulkan soal student Medic Malaysia di Mesir yang dihantar secara private.. Secara prosedurnya,setiap student yg nak belajar luar negara mesti melalui KPT, tambah-tambah lagi student Medic.. Tetapi di Mesir dah jadi kacau 1-2 tahun kebelakangan ni..
Dulu di Mesir, hanya JPA dan MARA yang hantar student dengan kelayakan yang benar-benar qualification utk ambil kursus medik ni..
Tapi yang terbaru ni,agensi dah mula hantar bdk ke Mesir.. KPT pulak kata agensi-agensi ni haram..cakap je haram,tapi takde apa-apa tindakan susulan..
So sekarang dah menjadi lambakan pelajar melayu di Mesir, cuma masalahnya sekarang, bukan Melayu or bilangan..
Tetapi kelayakan pelajar,ada yang sampai spm 4A pun mengambil sit medic, ini bukan soal dengki, sedangkan ramai kawan2 sy terpaksa belajar macam orang gila utk skor 4.0 di Matrik utk mendpt sit medic di U Malaysia.. So bagaimana sekarang Tun?
Adakah sistem pendidikan Malaysia yang tidak teratur dengan pengurusan KPT yang tidak telus menyebabkan bilangan mereka yang BERKELAYAKAN berkurangan?
So apa guna SPM dan Matrik utk kami lalui? Kalau begini, dapatkan SPM 2A, ada duit 10-20 ribu dah buleh ambik sit Medic..
Bagaimana ya Tun.. kalu nak maklumat lanjut rujuk Kedutaan Mesia di Mesir. Diorang pun dah cam agensi gak rasanya
“Tugas kita sebagai doktor adalah untuk mengubati pesakit dan menolong pesakit mencapai kualiti hidup yang lebih baik menurut kehendak mereka sendiri” Ujar Dr Mohamed Yahya, ketua Wehda round O & G penulis.
Dengan kata lain, seorang doktor itu sebenarnya berperanan dalam masyarakat untuk membawa mereka ke arah cara hidup yang sihat dan mendapatkan tahap kesihatan yang baik namun masih dalam ruang lingkup yang dibenarkan oleh pesakit mereka tanpa membuat keputusan sendiri membelakangi pesakit. Itulah yang tercatat dalam etika dan moral seorang doktor perubatan.
Tahap perkhidmatan kesihatan mungkin berbeza antara sebuah negara dengan sebuah negara yang lain. Walaupun perubat an itu bersifat universal dan sejagat, namun terdapat perbezaan yang cukup ketara pada sudut tahap kesedaran dan amalan kesihatan di sebuah negara yang maju seperti US ataupun UK berbanding negara membangun seperti Mesir mahupun Malaysia.
Hak Pesakit.
Di US atau di UK, terdapat pelbagai akta dan peraturan telah diperkenalkan dan diguna pakai bagi memastikan hak pesakit-pesakit untuk mendapatkan perkhidmatan kesihatan yang terbaik terjamin . Apa yang pernah disebut oleh pensyarah O & G penulis sendiri, Dr Mohammed Faris, “Di negara-negara maju, jika seorang doktor tidak melakukan ujian biochemical dan ujian chromosome ke atas ibu yang sedang mengandung dan tid ak dapat menceritakan keadaan bayi yang dikandungnya sama ada mempunyai kecacatan genetik ataupun tidak pada peringkat awal, iaitu sebelum bayi terse but dilahirkan, doktor tersebut boleh disaman, tapi ini tidak berlaku di Mesir”
Kenapa? Kerana tiada peraturan dan akta yang membincangkannya di sini dan tiada kesedaran masyarakat dalam menjaga dan memperjuangkan hak mereka.
Begitu juga dengan kes kecuaian doktor dalam mengubati pesakit dan pelbagai lagi bentuk malpractice yang dilakukan doktor yang dimaafkan dan disenyapkan oleh pesakit dengan mengganggapnya sebagai suatu lumrah kehidupan dan ketentuan qada’ dan qadar Allah Taala.
Etika Pengamal Perubatan. Di mana?
Penulis melihat perkara ini sebagai suatu yang cukup tidak beretika bagi pengamal-pengamal perubatan di Malaysia. Ramai antaranya yang bersikap take for granted dengan kenaifan pesakit-pesakit itu tentang hak-hak mereka ini dengan bersikap sambil lewa merawat pesakit walaupun profesyen mereka sebenarnya melibatkan nyawa manusia, hidup dan mati seseorang. Teruknya pekerjaan sebagai seorang doktor yang terpaksa berkorban masa dan tenaga, mengerah otak untuk merawat seorang pesakit pastinya bukanlah suatu alasan yang bijak untuk kita mengetepikan peranan mulia seorang doktor untuk menyelamatkan nyawa dan jiwa seorang pesakit.
doc doomDi dalam terminologi undang-undang terdapat istilah yang disebut, ‘Act of Omission’ iaitu satu tindakan betul yang sepatutnya dilakukan oleh seorang doktor untuk menyelamatkan pesakit namun dia tidak melakukannya, maka dia dianggap bersalah dan telah melakukan kesalahan. Satu istilah yang lain adalah yang disebut ‘Act of Omission’ iaitu suatu tindakan salah yang dilakukan doktor yang menyebabkan kecacatan atau kematian pesakit yang turut dikira sebagai kecuaian dan jenayah.
Kes-kes yang berlaku seperti kesilapan doktor memberikan suntikan kepada bayi menyebabkan kecederaan dan kematian sel pada tangan bayi sehingga perlu dipotong seperti dalam kes adik Lai Yoke Chan di Hospital Tengku Ampuan Rahimah pada Julai 2007. Kes seorang wanita yang dijangkiti kuman HIV melalui pemindahan darah akibat kecuaian pihak hospital mengesan kehadiran virus tersebut pada darah yang digunakan. Kes seorang perempuan yang telah hadir ke hospital mengadu berkenaan sesak nafas namun diberitakan menghadapi ectopic pregnancy sehingga perlu dibedah segera dan setelah dibedah didapati kesilapan berlaku apabila sampel air kencing pesakit sebenarnya tertukar dengan pesakit lain yang mempunyai nama yang sama sedangkan dalam masa yang sama, sebelum dari pembedahan, keluarga pesakit telah memaklumkan kepada pihak hospital bahawa pesakit belum lagi berkahwin.
Begitulah siri-siri kecuaian dan kesilapan pengamal perubatan yang kadang-kadang mengundang gerun kepada para pesakit untuk mendapatkan rawatan di hospital. Bayangkan hospital yang sepatutnya merupakan rumah untuk mereka yang menderita mendapatkan kesembuhan dan ketenangan ironinya bertukar sebagai detik bermula kisah tragis dan malang buat diri sendiri sepanjang hidupnya.
Saman?
Namun begitu, di negara-negara maju seperti US atau UK, atas dasar kesedaran dan peruntukan undang-undang yang diberikan, kadar saman terhadap malpractice doktor dan hospital adalah cukup tinggi walaupun kesilapan yang dilakukan mungkin tidak disengajakan atau tidak dapat dielakkan. Perkara ini kadang-kadang memberikan rasa gerun kepada doktor-doktor ini dan kadang-kadang menimbulkan rasa terkilan sekiranya usaha murni ingin menyelamatkan pesakit disalah anggap hanya kerana sedikit kesilapan yang dilakukan. Apapun kebanyakan doktor-doktor ini dilindungi oleh insurans-insurans tertentu bagi menghadapi kes-kes saman sebegini.
Apapun, menjadi tanggungjawab kepada pengamal-pengamal perubatan terutamanya pelajar-pelajar perubatan untuk memastikan diri sendiri bersedia dan mampu untuk memberikan khidmat kesihatan yang terbaik kepada pesakit dengan kemahiran-kemahiran yang sepatutnya dimiliki. Ingatlah, walau di mana dan apa keadaan sekalipun, pastikan kita adalah doktor muslim/muslimah terbaik yang meletakkan taqwa dan keimanan kepada Allah sebagai teras pekerjaan kita menyelamatkan jiwa insan yang memerlukan.
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Dear Friend,
Are you frustrated because people aren
Salam kasih Ayahanda Tun.
24 Ogos 2009, genap 498 tahun kejatuhan Melaka kepada Portugis dan juga tanda mulanya penjajahan bangsa asing keatas bangsa Melayu.
SIMPATI KAMI, PARA SETINGGAN YANG KAIS PAGI MAKANNYA PAGI:
Saya bukan doktor maka mohon diizinkan saya komen luar topic lagi Tun. Saya hanya tahu makan 2 biji Panadol, inshallah
TUN…TUN…TUN SENDIRIPUN TAK MINAT NAK BERKHIDMAT SEBAGAI DOKTOR APA LAGI DOKTOR KERAJAAN/SWASTA…MUNGKIN DOKTOR KAT MALAYSIA NIE RAMAI YANG INGIN JADI DOKTOR MACAM TUN. MEREKA JUGA BERMINAT NAK BERPOLITIK MACAM TUN DARIPADA BERKHIDMAT SEBAGAI DOKTOR. LAGIPUN RAMAI ORANG POLITIK SEKARANG DAH DAPAT ANUGERAH “DOKTOR” DARIPADA UNIVERSITI TEMPATAN…HAHAHA MACAM DR. PAKLAH, DR. NAJIB DAN DR. ROSMAH. JADI NAK JADI DOKTOR TAK PERLU AMBIK BIDANG PERUBATAN TETAPI AMBIK BIDANG POLITIK…HAHAHA SUATU HARI NANTI DAH BANYAK JASA ORANG BAGILAH ANUGERAH DOKTOR TU…HAHAHA
Selepas kuasai ekonomi…
ANDAIAN sebelum ini bahawa kaum Cina hanya berminat untuk menguasai ekonomi sementara kuasa politik akan terus dipegang oleh orang Melayu, nampaknya tidak lagi begitu.
Pasca Pilihan Raya Umum Ke-12 membuktikan bahawa banyak pihak kaum Cina sedang mengasak habis-habisan untuk turut sama menguasai politik negara ini.
Makin banyak petunjuk ke arah itu termasuk menerusi laporan media tertentu khususnya berbahasa Cina yang mempromosi sentimen sedemikian. Mesej yang boleh dibaca ialah banyak kalangan kaum Cina sudah tidak berpuas hati dengan sekadar menguasai ekonomi?
Persoalannya apakah yang akan berlaku jika kaum Cina juga menguasai politik dan di mana kedudukan Melayu nanti? Awang lontarkan persoalan ini untuk renungan kita semua lebih-lebih lagi kedudukan Melayu kini makin kritikal.
Apa sahaja yang tinggal pada Melayu mahu dirungkai termasuk yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan negara. Realitinya walaupun Melayu menguasai politik tetapi yang lebih berkuasa di negara ini adalah kaum Cina disebabkan penguasaan dalam ekonomi yang amat ketara.
Di sebalik banyak rungutan terhadap dasar kerajaan, sebenarnya kaum Cina paling banyak mendapat nikmat. Dasar Ekonomi Baru (DEB) yang dilaksanakan sebelum ini hanya memberikan kouta 30 peratus kepada bumiputera tetapi penguasaan 70 peratus terus dinikmati oleh masyarakat usahawan Cina yang sudah membentuk kartel mega, selain berlaku gejala ali baba dan ketirisan dalam 30 peratus kouta bumiputera.
Jika Melayu dibantu dalam bidang perniagaan ia dianggap tongkat tetapi jika syarikat-syarikat Cina diselamatkan oleh kerajaan, ia didiamkan sahaja. Jika banyak usahawan bukan Melayu mendapat bisnes monopoli seperti gula, stesen televisyen satelit, stesen janakuasa bebas dan sebagainya sehingga menjadi kaya raya dan mengalihkan berbilion ringgit ke luar negara, ia juga tidak mengapa. Jika ada usahawan Melayu cuba menceburi bidang penguasaan usahawan Cina seperti membekalkan limau, ia akan diboikot sampai gagal. Namun jika ada usahawan bukan Melayu menguasai bisnes seperti pengedaran produk daging dan ayam halal, yang melibatkan pasaran orang Islam, itu dianggap biasa.
Penguasaan Cina dalam syarikat-syarikat swasta dan persendirian selain mengutamakan pekerja kaum itu juga bukan isu. Pada masa yang sama majoriti Melayu di sektor awam makin hebat dipersoalkan malah terus diperlekehkan.
Awang bukanlah mahu bersikap rasis. Apa yang disuarakan ini sekadar menyanggah gelombang fitnah, tohmahan dan persepsi liar banyak pihak terhadap usaha meningkatkan pencapaian bumiputera, yang masih jauh ketinggalan berbanding kaum Cina.
Begitulah kebijaksanaan banyak pihak kaum Cina berpercaturan. Dalam mereka mengeluh dan merintih, mereka terus kaya dan berkuasa. Kouta untuk bumiputera mahu dihapuskan tetapi ‘kouta khas’ bukan bumiputera seperti bisnes berkaitan pusat hiburan, arak, judi dan maksiat yang mereka kuasai selama ini, tidak boleh disentuh sama sekali.
Pada hari ini, kaum Cina yang merupakan 24 peratus penduduk negara ini menguasai ekonomi. Tradisi dan budaya niaga yang lama terpahat selain dasar kerajaan yang terbuka, membolehkan kaum Cina terus melonjak. Masyarakat Cina mempunyai simpanan wang yang banyak berbanding kaum lain dan itulah antara asas kekuatan ekonomi kaum itu. Sedangkan Melayu yang merupakan kaum majoriti terus keciciran. Bayangkan seketika jika Melayu lenyap kuasa politik
Bangkitlah Melayu…
SEJAK beberapa bulan kebelakangan ini, Raja-raja Melayu tidak berhenti bersuara dalam hal melibatkan kepentingan agama Islam dan orang Melayu yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan.
Terbaru Raja Muda Perak Raja Dr. Nazrin Shah mengingatkan tentang tujuh wasiat Raja Melayu. Ia diikuti Sultan Kedah yang mahu kontrak sosial dipertahankan bagi mengelakkan negara ditimpa huru- hara. Beberapa hari selepas itu, Sultan Selangor, Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah terpaksa campur tangan menolak cadangan kerajaan pakatan pembangkang di negeri itu mahu menggunakan wang zakat untuk tujuan pembangunan semua kaum.
Seingat Awang, semua Raja Melayu dari Perlis hingga ke Johor telah melahirkan pandangan dan penegasan agar rakyat tidak meruntuhkan asas kenegaraan yang berpaksikan sejarah, tamadun dan masyarakat Melayu itu sendiri.
Malah sebahagian raja Melayu makin lantang mempertahankan kepentingan Melayu. Belum pernah berlaku dalam sejarah Raja-raja Melayu ke hadapan dan secara konsisten menjadi benteng melindungi perlembagaan. Ini semua berlaku kerana sesungguhnya juga belum pernah berlaku kedudukan Melayu, agama Islam dan institusi raja dicabar sebegini dahsyat oleh pergerakan politik bukan Melayu tertentu dengan dibantu oleh pengkhianat Melayu yang mahu berkuasa.
Kebiadapan terhadap Islam, raja dan Melayu makin menjadi-jadi yang tidak boleh dibiarkan. Setakat ini tiada seorang pun pemimpin pembangkang yang tampil memohon maaf terhadap banyak penderhakaan yang turut mereka cetuskan sama ada secara langsung mahu pun tidak langsung. Bibit-bibit ke arah negara republik sudah bermula.
Maka apa yang disuarakan oleh Raja-raja Melayu mempunyai mesej tersendiri bahawa Melayu perlu bangkit bersatu dan lebih yakin dalam menghadapi persekitaran politik yang makin membahayakan. Awang sudah lama bangkit…
Assalamualaikum Tun Dr M,
I’m a trained doctor cum qualified chest specialist from a reputable ivy university in UK for past 15 years. I totally agreed with Tun comments especially regarding the nation loses a lot when the people we train opts to work in other countries.
I believed that Tun Dr M know the many reasons why a big brain drain among many qualified Malaysians of all races are unwilling to serve their own people here. Well, I can easily quote several vital reasons for the consideration of the readers and you to agree or disagree with me :
1. The failure of NEP policy to abolish and reduce the poor Malaysians but the policy caused severe corruptions, cronies and abused of power by BN politicians and UMNO leaders for past 22 years since its implementation. Hence, majority Malaysians especially the elite Malays, rich Malays and educated Malays prefer to work and serve in foreign soils instead of their own race because these qualified Malays are left out by greedy UMNO warlords in many high positions in their interest in politics and social services.
2. BN has caused severe inflation and prices hike in Malaysia that caused Malaysians to suffer more due to depreciation of ringgit value. Majority Malays are fixed income earners and civil servants cannot cope with high inflation rate and income decreases annually as a result of BN govt failure to control inflation. For instance, why must majority Malay buyers paid high car premium double tax for an imported car as compared with our neighbors, Indonesians and Siamese? An imported Toyota Camry 2.4 costed RM170K in Malaysia but the actual price is RM70K in Indonesia and Thailand. Hence, Malay buyer is paying RM100K tax to UMNO / BN govt. The AP policy only enrich a small elite Malay crony in UMNO but majority Malays suffer.
3. Majority Malays are denied by UMNO controlled BN from learning and reading English language and Science and Maths in English since 1970 when UMNO decided to abolish English medium. However, the minority elite and rich Malays will send their off-spring children to be educated in local international schools and overseas. Therefore, majority poor and medium income Malays are left out to expand their knowledges and opportunities to learn English.
4. The elite, rich and well connected Malays are rewarded with high scholarships to pursue their overseas studies. The less influenced smart Malays are left out to study in low standard and third class local universities and Mara higher institutions. So majority local Malay grads are less competent in English and poor exposure in international competitions. Such mass production of Malay grads with poor quality in their local tertiary educations are insulting and threatening the future Malay generations.
There are many other negative reasons why Malay grads failed miserable in their career advancement because of the “Tongkat Ali” system created by UMNO to destroy their future. We, poor Malays and other Chinese, Indians and Pri-Bumi grads are less fortunate as compared with the elite, rich and well connected Malays, UMNO and BN politicians and leaders, but we strive very hard to work hard cum study hard without any tongkat ali from UMNO/BN.
Does Tun think a poor smart Malay who able to achieve his/her doctorate without the tongkat ali help is willing to return and serve Malaysians? How about other negative factors like a petty income from Health Ministry, a long housemanship, a poor promotion scheme, a inferior Malaysia education system, a low standard of living, a corrupted BN govt, etc ?
Last but not least, Malays are smarter today! Malays and other Malaysians know that our next future generation is getting worst if BN corrupted and arrogant leaders continued to rule Malaysia.
Selamat Berpuasa Tun.
Sekian, terima-kasih.
Dr Mohd Tarmizi Ahmad
This Applies to all professions,not only to Doctors.They lack the soul of the Profession by the greed of Financial gains.Tun,you had set the example when you started your Private Clinic to help the poor in the 60s in Alor Star.I wish the present day Doctors can emulate you in doing the same.You have been sincere and honest in your soul,but some people refuse to accept you as you are.They just want to blame you of their own failure to achieve what they had hoped for.
Assalamualaikum wahai Dokter Mahathir.
Excuse my pun but in Indonesia, Dr maybe something (DOKTOR) which is a PhD but a Dokter (Dr. or Drg.) is what you are and I’m replying not as a common man, but a fellow profession.
Did you know MMA is full of Bull Crap that they and their cronies only dictate what goes about? That someone holding a valid GMC or SMC is actually ALLOWED TO PRACTICE (foreigner) as registration to MMA is not a pre-requisite to practice (APC) but it’s the KKM who has the say. I don’t have APC but at times, I do locum. Why? Because KKM is where the bull crap comes in, requiring the things that are not needed. I can easily BUY a MEDICAL DEGREE from a country that MMA accredited but then, that DOES NOT MEAN I AM QUALIFIED. Yet, in Malaysia, talking about social debt, the MALAYSIAN DOCTOR is not 100% dedicated to their profession. Drop by UPM and see the number of Lecturers who NEVER DID CLINICAL PRACTICE (as in running the A&E etc etc) and yet they have the gut to teach our youngsters on public health!
Yet, I had a bunch of monkey doctors who were undergoing houseman-licensing from UK (they are already graduated mind U with Honors) and the thing is, can’t even differentiate a common flu with Meningitis and funny thing is, they can’t even take a BP without the use of DIGITAL APPARATUS.
What I am trying to say is, these ‘Malaysia Boleh’ doctors don’t actually want to be doctors in the first place. All for the money not for the love of the profession thus the blooming of MC Doctors who gave wrong prescriptions etc and all for RM10, you get a day MC!
Yes, some of the INDIA Doctors’ doctrine is far from standard. I can’t even make out the prescription myself and diagnosis, but then they are PROFESSIONALS. Many practice using the circumvent method I mentioned. To me, if the Malaysian doctors want to find money overseas..go ahead..they will only come back…..when they are in trouble in the foreign land and during then, we should cuci them, just as how Singapore does with their Doctors on Call. Oh ya..Doctors in Singapore are governed under Chap 297 of the Enlistment Act, so the army teaches a thing or two. Pay their debt for where they dessert the country (PR alike). Like SARS, and recently H1N1 recall. Called up without pay and at worst times.
Then they get charged under Article 13 for dessertion and after the fine etc, they have to serve their dues, meaning instead of 2 weeks a year ICT, they paid 12 weeks for every year they missed consecutive in bad places like war torn areas or UN Missions. There U sacrifice your life towards HUMANITY. Many doctors and medics lost their life to the cause. And like many, I was a Medic in the Medical Corps before I became a Doctor of Medicine…
So the social responsibility is PAID. That is how we should teach our Doctors. Not money. To seek, To save, To serve.
It’s my 2c Doc….And I agree we need more doctors….but DEDICATED ONES…. not one reading the paper in the office.
Capitalism plaguing away nationalism.
Welcome to this world, people. Nevertheless, we owe it to the medical profession.
Stay healthy & a healthy ramadan, InsyaAllah!
love,
Tukang Kebun
The Doctors! not only the doctors but nurses too and for that matters the most important the ministry of health.I remember when i was a little boy and was admitted for some ailments, to one govt. hospital where at that time still lots of mak salleh doctors still roving the hospital wards,one thing i still remember was that the nurses was like angels spoke to the patients almost in a whisper gentle and soothing the wards was clean the services shud i exagerate British Standard if not Queen Standard(now its asian standard with our tidak apa attitude), the Doctors can snap at the nurses or scolding is the proper words if the nurses ever be rough to their patients but not now the nurses are like the hell angels majority of them are there scream at the doctors and most of the doctors are timids, and the doctors just move around like robots around the wards waiting for them to complete their contracts and move on to open their own clinics and makes tons of Moneies. Sad to say this happen to all services in the government department and it started and pointed to one primary department, The Ministry of Education and the Schools! They all started from here!
It has become a fad and a fashion these days for some of our local universities to confer honorary doctoral degrees on some political figures. The “honorary award” spree of the higher institutions of learning in our country leaves much to be desired. It appears to me that these higher educational institutions have nothing better to do. They want to perpetuate the rut and routine.They don’t seem to be doing much research and aspire to be research-driven institutions. This is indeed a deplorable situation. Even the citations made during the honorary award ceremonies appear to be a hyperbole!
Will this sad situation ever change?
ABI
Salam Ramadan buat Tun berdua moga dirahmati Allah s.w.t.
1)Ibu saya pernah berkata banyak perkara yang baik tentang Tun malah dari rakan-rakanya tentang kebaikan Tun ketika menjadi Dokter di klinik Maha dahulu.
2)Bagi saya Tun tidak akan menjadi orang kaya segera jika Tun terus menjadi Dokter kerana sikap Tun yang pengiklas itu.Tun sanggup tidak menerima bayaran demi kemiskinan pesakit Tun.Allah s.w.t maha kaya akhirnya kebaikan Tun di balas oleh Allah s.w.t dengan rezeki dalam bentuk lain.
3)Rakyat pasti gembira jika mereka yang mempunyai mentaliti seperti Tun ada pada seorang pakar penyakit kronik sekarang.Dokter yang mendahulukan wang untuk mengerakkan kerjanya tiada gunanya dibantu oleh pihak pemerintah dan diterima mempelajari ilmu kedokteran.
4)Ilmu kedokteran bersumber ilmu suci perlu ditapis dan tidak terlalu terbuka kepada jiwa-jiwa yang kotor untuk mempelajarinya.
6)Agak malang ilmuan pakar perubatan memperturunkan ilmunya dengan memperdagangkan wang terhadap nyawa manusia.
7)Kemuliaan anda merupakan amalan pahala yang berganda dan wang serta ketenangan jiwa pasti dikurniakan Allah s.w.t hingga keakhir hayat anda.
WALAHUA’LAM
Dear Tun,
Let me share one real scenerio with you and appreciate comments from yourself and others.
My distance cousin obtained 5 A’s in STPM in early 90’s. He was not only being rejected a schorlarship, worse, he wasn’t offered a place in local University (UM) for medical degree. He was offered engineering in stead.
He got disappointed and finally decided to furher his study in Perth whereby he was subsequently awarded schorlarship there. He is now a very famous bone surgeon in Australia. Think about brain drain that is happening rampantly in Malaysia!!!
Salam Tun,
I cannot deny the fact that all your previous cabinet ministers from UMNO/BN component parties have shown thier true colours as soon as you have stepped down as the Prime Minister of Malaysia. (The ‘rakyat’ obviously know what went wrong ever since you resign your position. However, they are too afraid to speak because of the current ruling Government is using all kind of threats to those who voice out thier opinions with evidences)
It is indeed very sad to see Malaysia as it is now and an unfortunate country that has run badly by the current government led by Najib Tun Razak. It doesn’t show enough commitment from the current Prime Minister and Deputy Prime Minister to curb corrupted issues within BN/UMNO. They are just interested in taking care of thier own businesses and money rather than to have the heart of a doctor to atttend to those who in need of help. The humane heart of serving the people has long forgotten ever since you have stepped down as the Prime Minister.
sad sad Malaysia….
Assalmualaikum Tun,
Maaf apa yang saya nak katakan keluar dari topik. Kerana kesibukkan masa saya sudah lama tidak layari blog Tun.Saya ingin merujuk pandangan Emer Ahmad Hefizal tentang NABI MUSA (a.s) DAN ANWAR IBRAHIM.
Tidak masuk akal sama sekali apabila EAH cuba samakan Nabi Musa (a.s) yang mengkhianati Firaun dan Anwar Ibrahim yang mengkhianati UMNO. EAH cuba samakan perjuangan Nabi Musa dan Anwar Ibrahim.
Firaun adalah raja yang zalim yang terang terang menentang ALLAH Dimanakah bukti yang menunjukkkan UMNO telah menentang ALLAH (s.w.t)? Saya tidak katakan yang UMNO perfect, tidak ada siapa pun yang perfect tapi apa yang dilakukan oleh UMNO selama ini selaras dengan ajaran Islam dan diiktiraf sebagai salah sebuah NEGARA ISLAM YANG termaju oleh masyarakat antarabangsa.
Apa kah tidak terlintas dalam fikiran EAH bahwa Anwar Ibrahim disokong oleh US dan Israel yang terlibat dengan pembunuhan beribu ribu umat Islam termasuk kanak kanak dan BAYI BAYI yang tidak berdosa! Firaun bunuh bayi bayi dari Bani Israil dan kawan kawan Anwar Ibrahim bunuh kanak kanak dan bayi bayi Islam!!!!
Ramadhan Mubarak dan selamat berpuasa kepada seluruh umat Islam.
Semoga ALLALH (s.w.t) melindungi kita semua dari fitnah Dajjal.
Dearest YAB Tun,
Congratulations Tun!
Saya pun doktor juga Tun, tapi Doktor Falsafah. Tapi dulu masa sekolah belajar semua dalam BM, sebab itu BI taklah bagus sangat walaupun semasa BSc & MSc saya belajar di luar negara; masa buat BSc & MSc perit rasanya sebab kena belajar semua dalam BI; sebab itu saya MEMBANTAH PPSMI DI MANSUHKAN dan kerajaan kena dengar pendapat kami yang boleh dikatakan pakar dalam bidang sains/matematik/teknologi. Tetapi untk Ph.D saya buat di dalam negara (tesis dalam BI) kerana kecintaan saya terhadap Malaysia, dan saya akan terus menyumbang untuk negara ini (walaupun sumbangan saya sedikit saja).
As always, I agree with Tun
aslammuallaikum TDMM smuga dalam lindongi allah & selamat mengerjakan ibadah puasa dengan aman, alhamdulillah
dalam peristiwa rayat malaysia eggan pulang berkhidmat di malaysia,sabenar nya mereka ni pengkianat bangsa keturunan tanah melayu, sebalik nya mereka bangsa papa kedana kolot, beneh penceroboh datang merempat, mintak di kesian, lalu lahir lah melayu celup berupa melayu derhaka,tali barut musuh serba bolih, banyak dosa apa pun biar lah mereka tipu terus menipu diri sendiri,yang pasti dari allah datang,kepada allah kita kembali.
hebat, memang hebat,nik aziz dakwa pengikut UMNO tak bolih masok surga hanya khas kepada pengundi PAS-DAP-PKR saja, buat kita orang islam beriman dengan ALLAH, jangan terpengaroh hasutan dajal, wajib percaya berserah kepada maha suci allah dan maha perkasa berserta junjungan nabi mohammad s.a.w & sahabat nya yang dikasihi,insyaallah selamat dunia akhirat, insyaallah.
Salam,
kepada Tun dan para bloggers selamat menyambut kemerdekaan yang ke52 dan selamat menunaikan ibadat puasa. semoga umat Islam di Malaysia tercinta ini dapat lebihkan ibadat daripada berhibur amin…
dengan penuh keikhlasan,
hsm_cai
1. The grass is always greener on the other side. Money is always the main factor of any switch in any profession. Malaysian doctors who are currently working overseas were indoctrinate informally to work outside even before they start. This is more obvious to those who obtained their degree overseas. Parents who paid for their children
To Ravi:
Just so you know. Tun sent his son to study in Japan when his son actually wanted to study in US. Maklumlah, Tun baru buat dasar pandang ke timur. I’m pretty sure he has his family intact.
Adam
Dear Dr M,
I really want to thankyou because you are the main engineer to bring the name of our country to the globe, as a medical student in Canada years ago, most of my caucasian friends know about malaysia and they are so amazed by the KLCC, and me, as Malaysian, very proud of it, because we stand up…. I do not want to comment on the politics because it is dirty. I have to say, your JASA to Malaysia will stay forever.
I finished my medical school in Canada and in Cardiology training program sponsored by Government of Canada. I keep asking myself, where I want to serve as a cardiologist later, in Malaysia ? in Canada ? In Singapore ? in US ? I googled very hard to know our Malaysian system very well but received no information, no promising information at all…is very kelang kebut (if my malay still correct). At the same time, every part of the world is wooing physicians to their country. It is a free world and everyone of us make a decision which will suit us better. I received a contact from Singapore regarding the position offer, I was so touched and so excited but at the same time, why M’sian government never come to find me ?
Over the past few years, I met my wife in Canada and we have a daughter, I have decided to stay in North America for goods, not because of the money (of course, I can get a brand new BMW or Mercedes here starting $ 38 000), I do not want to go somewhere where I have to restart everything in the blurred system. I still reading malaysiakini, chinese papers, berita harian daily online and my malay language still kept well…
There are thousands of reasons why someone migrated; to get a better life for themselves or children, this does not mean this group of people has forgotten their motherland. In today’s globalised world, the world is getting smaller and new generations of citizens dare to find new challenges in other parts of the world.
Finally, I wish you good health and like to thankyou again for contributing to Malaysia!!!
Sincerely,
Ex-Malaysian
Dear learned Tun,
Would you please enlighten me which professional body in what country allow free flow influx of expatriates…?
Salam Ramadhan kepada Tun..
Jika dikaji balik tentang mengapa graduan doktor tempatan lebih cenderung berminat untuk bekerja di luar negara adalah kerana tawaran gaji yang lebih lumayan. Menjadikan negara maju tanpa golongan profesional ini amatlah sukar. Sasaran kerajaan iaitu 1 doktor untuk 10 orang rakyat masih lagi kabur jika tiada langkah drastik diambil. Pemberian biasiswa pelajaran tidak lagi relevan. Oleh itu kerajaan mesti peka terhadap golongan ini tentang apa kehendak mereka agar mahu berkhidmat di negara tumpahnya darah mereka ini.
Sungguh menyedihkan apabila si Miskin sibuk memikirkan bagaimana mencari duit di negara sendiri,
Dan si Kaya sibuk memikirkan bagaimana ingin berbelanja di negara orang.
Lebih pelik,apabila si Miskin tadi diberi biasiswa,dan menjadi si Kaya dia juga memikirkan bagaimana untuk memperoleh harta di negara orang.
Sepatutnya pemberi biasiswa lebih-lebih lagi si Kerajaan membuat kontrak supaya penerima biasiswa duduk bekerja selama sedekad atau dua di negara sendiri.
My beloved and much respected Tun Dr Mahatir
The more I read about the articles you write and at the same time, thinking about the achievements of Malaysia during you era, I can only sum up that you are second to none, as the greatest leader whose interest is only for Malaysia and her plural society.
Apart from your good-self and some faithful and undivided followers, surprisingly you are now fighting against your own kind, the Malays and not the Chinese or the Indians, who had all along been supporting you, unconditionally. The Malays you were trying to nurture to replace you and also, another who subsequently succeeded you, turned out to be foes. While they were in your cabinet, they were waiting for the right time to either topple your government or wait for your retirement to show their true colour.
It is either you are gifted or born with a brain ala Einstein, which the general masses could not understand till many years after. If that is not the case, chances are the medical training that you inherit makes you feel for the plight of others first, especially the sick and unfortunate ones. How many doctors think of serving the needy? We are sure and which is generally true, many doctors think of the big money they can make in a private practice.
In the same wave-length, how many politicians, once voted in, think about serving the people? They will be the same like those doctors, thinking of making big money and also, turning a blind eye towards the responsibilities they shoulder. Lately, we read that some of the politicians in a first world country were abusing tax-payers funds for their own private use, instead. If this could take place in a first world country like Britain and maybe also, some others, this form of dishonesty or fraud is definitely rampant in the third world countries.
This is only hypothetical: Had Tun Dr Mahatir and his faithful followers been born a
If the government doesn’t want her scholars to work overseas they should make it clear in the binding contract that they shouldn’t be allowed to work overseas after graduation. I myself am working outside the country right now (guilty, sorry), and I was a government scholar. Thank goodness I’m not a doctor.
Before graduation I was told that my sponsor would like to see their scholars work overseas for awhile to gain knowledge of how the working environment is outside Malaysia. But eventually they would want their scholars to go back and contribute to the country. I totally agree on this… at least for students who are not aspiring/have become doctors. Since there is a shortage of doctors back home there really isn’t any reason for medicine overseas graduates to work anywhere outside of Malaysia.
I love my country more than anything that money can offer. Which is the reason why I will definitely go back. Plus I don’t want my future children to grow up anywhere outside Malaysia. Malaysia is where the heart is… however at the same time I don’t want to go back and claw my way from the bottom.
Is this selfish? Or is this strategic planning? Will I be able to contribute more to the country after I have exposed myself for a few years overseas? I don’t really know. But that is the plan.
Adam
Dear Tun
Being a doctor requires a certain degree of social and communicative skill, after all, as a specialist friend says, you are not a doctor without your patients. But truth be told many of our doctors assume a ‘god-sent’ status and forget how to relate to their patients as fellow human in need of health care. Many of us are able to share stories about certain doctors who have forgotten the beauty of service and the reason they are doctors that they treat their patients with little or no humanity. But then again, thankfully, there are those, like my daughter’s pediatrician, who despite seeing over 40 patients in one session, can still speak with care and courtesy to the 41st patient who comes into her office. I truly wish whoever considers this crucial profession takes into consideration the demands of service in its true sense. Otherwise go make money in some other profession.
Salam and Ramadhan Mubrak.
salamun ‘alaikum
1. doctor ia a good profession, but when they start to feel they heal, then its the end of story. riak has emerged within themselves & its a syirik to those patients who believes so.
2. many said, when you fall sick, see the doctors, swallow some pills, then tawakkal. which is wrong. make solah 1st, ask from Allah swt is the main priority, then go to the doctors. the last solution definitely, will throw a muslim out from the ‘tawakal’ vips membership, so the chances of getting through the judgement day without being questioned gets very thin. Umar al khattab ra died of being stabbed, after 3 days of severe bleeding. at that time there were ‘doctors’. but he didnt bother to see or have a treatment with them. he even knew such person will come & kill him.
3. Nabi saw said (mafhumnya), when you practise madu, 1000 sickness will be pulled out from you. So how many of malays practise this? how many ‘yakin’ of this method?
4. doctors in malaysia are really making profit through selling medicine in clinics. not through their contribution to society, bear that in mind. when they are in private hospital, they charged on unbelievable amount of money just for a short period of their time & this make situation even worst. the malays starts to build wealth out of ‘haram’ activities just to make a place for them in this kind of ‘rich facilities’.
5. its true many flies out to work oversea, because the pays are really high, compares to bolehland. but i cant imagine muslims doctors treating the arrogant, as mentioned by Allah swt in the Quran. Especially when they do this because of money & that is certainly a bad news, very bad news.
6. Its funny when you mentioned about them going out & foreigners were not allowed to come in. Its the same with umno dont you think? only those who slaves themselves to umno gets the big fish. Leadership is business, not responsibilities. Selamat berpuasa, maaf zahir & batin. You should be lucky because Allah swt prolonged your age, my very good friend died at age of 23. Can any doctors fix this? You cant, because there is this one illness that Allah swt sent & it has no cure, it is called DEATH.
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
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MERDEKA! MERDEKA! MERDEKA!
DAULAT TUANKU!
ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
…BUT AYAHANDA TUN, NOT ALL THE DOCTORS WERE DISLOYAL TO THEIR COUNTRY BUT DUE TO UNHEALTHY PRACTICES (NEPOTISM AND DISCRIMINATION) FOUND IN THE GOVERNMENT HOSPITALS FORCED SOME OF THESE DOCTORS TO SEEK COMFORT AND SATISFACTION ELSEWHERE. A COUSIN OF OURS WAS AMONG THE ‘VICTIM’ OF SUCH PRACTICES. FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS HE WAS LOYAL AND WORKED DELIGENTLY IN THE IJN WHILST MOST OF HIS COLLEAGES HAVE LEFT FOR BETTER SALARIES IN THE PRIVATE HOSPITALS.
FINALLY, HE LOST HIS PATIENCE WHEN HE REALISED HIS CAREER APPARENTLY HAD BEEN ‘MORTUARISED’ BY HIS SUPERIORS AND LEFT FOR DUBLIN, IRELAND.
HE IS VERY HAPPY THERE WORKING AMONGST PROFESSIONALS AND HAD BEEN ACCREDITED FOR SOME RESEARCH WORKS IN THE HOSPITAL.
IT’S IRONY WHEN SOMEONE GOOD IS NOT RECOGNISED HERE BUT IS APPREICATED ELSEWHERE. HOWEVER, HE HAS ONE CONSOLATION TO SERVE THE COUNTRY I.E. GIVING THE BEST OF HIS MEDICAL KNOWLEDGES AND ADVICES TO OUR MEDICAL STUDENTS IN THE SAID HOSPITAL SO THAT WHEN THEY RETURN HOME WILL GIVE THE BEST AND NOTHING BUT THE BEST TO THE COUNTRY.
THANK YOU DEAR COUSIN AND WE REALLY HOPE THE ‘DIRECTORS’ HERE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE THESE YOUNG DOCTORS’ DEDICATION AND CONTRIBUTIONS.
ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Saya doakan agar Tun sentiasa sihat dan berada didalam perlindungan Allah SWT. Saya memohon maaf sekiranya comment saya tidak kena pada tempatnya, tapi saya tidak ada cara lain untuk menyampaikan hasrat hati saya kepada Tun. Sempena kehadiran bulan yang penuh barakah ini, saya ingin mengambil peluang untuk memohon jutaan kemaafan daripada Tun. Saya banyak berdosa dengan Tun (terutamanya dosa mengumpat). Teman sekolah saya dahulu pernah berkata, (lebih kurang macam ni) ‘Kita dah banyak mengutuk Dr Mahathir, macam mana nak minta maaf dengan dia nanti?’ Terkedu hati saya mendengarnya, so benda tu tersimpan dalam kepala saya sampai sekarang. Sekarang peluang dah ada, dan kiranya Tun baca ‘comment’ saya ni, saya harap Tun sudi maafkan saya. And to tell you the truth, I really miss you as our Prime Minister. Please take care of yourself. And to your faithful readers, I apologise sebab lari tajuk…
Tun,
Susah nak cakap juga laa. The problem plaguing our healthcare industry goes beyond the H1N1 which we are struggling to solve right now. There is a bigger virus that needs solving, that is the opportunist among the professionals (read Doctors) which are no more than rascals. And together with like-minded businessmen, they turn private hospitals into money-making machine.
Look at how much the privates are charging, look at claims made to insurance companies. Bear in mind that the insurance money belongs to the people themselves, their lifetime savings. And it gets used up once they undergo certain treatments.
I am fed-up with the likes of KPJ, Pantai and so on which take pride for being led by so-called successful bumiputra businessmen, but to remove kidney stone can cause a man 10,000 for the whole treatment. How can the average income earners afford such a cost? Yet these people are going round the country organizing talks, seminars, motivations and whatnot just to tell how successful they are in running their businesses. And yet those bike-riders, bus-takers, hawkers still go to government hospitals for their treatment.
To make matters worse, those risky type of ailments (like H1N1) gets sent back to government hospitals. And the government hospitals are left with the burden to clean-up the mess.
I was wondering actually, what has the Health Ministry been doing all these years? Are they actually regulating these private hospitals. Why does the burden can only be carried by government doctors? I hate T.Murugiah the Deputy Minister when he claimed that he caught some doctors reading some newspapers when there are many patients waiting. Without checking the facts, this joker thought he is the champion of the people. But what he did not bother to check is that almost all of these doctors work 36 hours round the clock. That is how life is in government hospitals.
How many ministers of health have changed throughout the years and yet the situation still remains the same. There is a need to regulate the operation of both government and private hospitals.
salam kasih Tun..
dah lama saya bimbang tentang perkara ini. kawan2,sepupu yang dihantar belajar keluar negara dgn biasiswa kerajaan, sekarang menjadi pemastautin tetap di negara luar, berbakti dgn org2 asing. Sungguh menyedihkan.
Walaubagaimanapun, saya harap MMA dapat berbuat sesuatu. Untuk meminta doktor kita yg telah berpengalaman di luar negara yg pulang utk cuba manabur bakti di sini, kemudian diminta bermula dari “A” di hospital kerajaan amatlah tak logik. Jangan samakan profesion doktor dgn profession lain..
Sepatutnya orang politik di Malaysia lebih banyak berlatarbelakangkan doktor, itu lebih baik berbanding lawyer. Lawyer bikin huru-hara satu Malaysia.
Kata kawan cina saya, kalau anda ada rumah kosong jangan sewakan pada Lawyer. Nak2 sedara kepada Gobala, Siva dan Lingham.
Why won’t MMA allow foreign doctors? The answer is simple. MONEY. Plain and simple. If foreign doctors are allowed into the country to overcome the shortage of doctors (100,000 doctors short, according to Star), it would simply be that the medical fees would drop drastically. People will eventually realise that foreign doctors would charge a fraction of what the local doctors would, with equal or even better service. Simply because these foreign doctors come here to work. Not because they they passed SPM with flying colors and given a scholarship on a silver platter.
Same goes for the medical specialists. As a result, the local doctors would now have to work harder, meaning they now can only play golf once a week instead of three times a week. They now have to be on call. They also are forced to charge lower, meaning no more charging RM170 per minute, when visiting patients at the ward. They also cannot be first in line for the latest BMW or Merc. Pity them. Worst still, they would not be able to get their triple Datukships.
So, how should they maintain status and status quo ? Easy. Stop foreign doctors from coming in. The local doctors still make their buck; at the expense of the people.
After all, doctors are important. They save lives. So do firemen, except that they face death when saving lives, and never see the light of a BMW or Merc.
Memang duit bukan segala-galanya.. Tetapi.. segala-galanya memerlukan duit..
Atas sebab itu barangkali keikhlasan untuk berkhidmat sebagai doktor kurang dan mungkin tiada.. Memang betul jawatan doktor/engineer/akauntan di malaysia UNDERPAID akan tetapi jika kerajaan naikkan gaji setinggi mana pun bolehkah mereka bekerja bukan atas dasar wang semata-mata?? Lihat sahaja POLIS.. Jika kerajaan menaikkan setinggi manapun gaji polis, adakah RASUAH dikalangan POLIS akan hilang 100%??
Pucuk pangkal diri masing2.. Mungkin silapnya didikan peringkat rumah.. Lebih2 lagi orang melayu.. Biasanya orang2 tua Melayu akan berkata “Belajar pandai2, dah besar nanti jadi doktor,lawyer,engineer”
Pernyataan di atas menunjukkan, anak-anak melayu telah diterapkan sejak kecil bahawasanya pendidikan menjamin masa depan.. Sebenarnya SALAH SAMA SEKALI.. INGAT!! Biar GAGAL DALAM PELAJARAN, JANGAN GAGAL DALAM HIDUP..
Saya PASTI, dalam kepala kebanyakan orang..
1. Ketika belajar di universiti fikir untuk lepas exam
2. Ketika kerja fikir untuk dapat gaji
Inilah silapnya..
Belajar bukan untuk Kerjaya.. Belajar untuk timba ILMU.. Kerja bukan untuk duit.. Kerja untuk berbakti..
KALAU NAK DUIT BUKAN KERJA.. BERNIAGA.. FAHAM TAK KALIAN SEMUA??
So… Sesiapa yang rasa gaji yang diperolehi tak kira doktor/engineer/akauntan/lawyer tak setimpal.. Berhenti kerja!!Pergi berniaga.. Jangan kerja sebab kalau kerja menyusahkan orang lain.. Duit pun tak berkat.. Sebab apa, sebab apabila meletakkan kepentingan diri lebih dari orang lain.. duit tak berkat.. Sebab asyik fikir gaji aja.. UTAMAKAN KUALITI KERJA ANDA!! Jangan fikir anda DOKTOR/LAWYER/AKAUNTAN dan seumpamanya anda dah cukup bagus dan tidak boleh ditegur..
Pelik? Memang betul orang yang sakit semakin ramai.. Tetapi kalau betul2 hospital boleh merawat pesakit, kenapa orang yang sakit dari dulu tak baik2.. FIKIRKAN.. HOSPITAL SEBENARNYA PUSAT RAWATAN/PERKHDMATAN ATAU PUSAT PERNIAGAAN??
ORANG BUKAN SEMAKIN SEMBUH.. TETAPI SEMAKIN PARAH.. SEMAKIN BERTAMBAH PENYAKIT.. SEBAB TU DI MALAYSIA, HOSPITAL SWASTA TUMBUH MACAM CENDAWAN LEPAS HUJAN.. MATLAMAT DAH LARI.. Memang lah motto kat pintu masuk semua AYAT MANIS.. HAKIKATNYA???
KEMANA HALA TUJU KUALITI PERKHIDMATAN HOSPITAL??
PARA-PARA DOKTOR.. TOLONG BERI KOMEN!!
KERJA YANG IKHLAS DAN JUJUR AKAN MENJAMIN KUALITI KERJA YANG BERMUTU TINGGI..
Dear Tun,
1. I like this one.I agree on certain points but disagree on others.
2. I lost count on how many honorary degree you have. Can I have one?
3. I agree medicine is a vocation. If somebody wants to be a doctor so that they can become extremely rich and famous, they should choose a different career.
4. I agree on the social responsibility , which is why I think even foreign doctors who wants to work in Malaysia should have their share too. Malaysian doctors have to do compulsory service, so they must do some sort of compulsory service too.
5. I am sure you know that not all doctors are MMA members. All doctors are registered with MMC however ( MMC – Malaysian Medical Council). May be you should get MMC to get doctors to vote. 1 doctor 1 vote. However that is not how it works in Malaysia. The power that be usually decides.
6. When I was still in the government service,you were still the PM and one of our senior doctor said ” Even Dr. M gave up on government service, in fact he gave up on medicine totally”. We should appreciate our doctors be it government or private.
7. We have to see reasons why doctors emigrate. Some emigrate because of children education,some for better financial gain,some to further their specialisation etc etc. Find ways to lure them back. The current way of attracting them is just not good enough.
8. I agree nation loses when professional migrate, not just doctors. Every profession would try safeguard their profession. Ask architects, Engineers, Lawyers etc etc,, they have their own regulations too.
There should be a strong reason for the foreign doctors entry i.e. they must try to lure Malaysians doctors to come back first or they have advertised the position to Malaysian doctors or there is really no Malaysian specialist in the said field.
9. I have never heard MMA encouraging people to migrate. OK. May be they should be more active to discourage doctors from migrating.
10. I am sure government hospitals would disliked private hospitals to pinched their much needed specialists. The local private hospitals which need to employ foreign doctors I presumed is a hospital for the rich and famous. I also presumed this hospital for the rich and famous wants to employ Mat Saleh’s doctor instead of Myanmar doctors ( those few countries that government hospital could still afford). What about the poor and the not famous.
11. Here I want to emphasize the gap between the rich and the poor. Be it Malay,Chinese,Indian,Kadazan,Iban etc etc. We keep on harping on economical cake but I am more concern about the poor distribution of wealth between the super rich and the so many poor.
12. All said and done. You have done a lot of wonders. I hope the new generation of leaders think about the disparity between the very rich and the very poor.
13. Lastly Tun, Selamat Menyambut Ramadan and take good care of yourself and Tun Dr Siti Hasmah.
14. Wassalam.
We should be free to all.We should allow government doctors to work in the private sector and the private doctors to work for the government.We should allow foreign doctors to work for the private and government sector too.With no restriction, we can see the settings of standard and perhaps the lowering of costs.We should have a monitoring body to see genuine doctors are produced by our medical schools.Nowadays we seem to produce doctors easily whether locally or foreign.We should have regular examinations for doctors so that we know they are up to date in their practice.We should also have medico-legal trained people to check on doctors for malpractices.We cannot assume that once they are doctors they can play with our lives.At present in this country it looks like that!
Tun
echoing Pak Pandir’s sentiments – the country is not only at risk as losing skilled doctors due to lack of opps in our country, but good Engineers, Accountants, Administrators etc etc
Tun, our education system was not build to generate talent – it was built like a factory outlet…just churn out students.
Quality control was not our best characteristics…we “discarded” those that were deemed not in the correct demographics, and in turned paid the price, when they left to pursue challenges and opportunities elsewhere.
Some of the more ill-informed amongst us might say, good riddance. But the country has paid the price and will continue to pay the price for retaining mediocrity and discarding excellence.
Sir – lets face it. The more affluent and learned Malaysian Malays want to leave the country. These individuals realise they have more to gain and offer elsewhere. Those who were given a govt. scholarship return to complete their bond, and some then use their past contacts and leave regardless if they have opps to grow and succeed.
Just last month, a Malaysian Malay family I know migrated to the US because the principal breadwinner got a job offer he couldnt refuse.
And as for those Malaysian Chinese and Malaysian Indians who didn’t get that opportunity to advance their education in course of their choice in a Public Higher Learning establishment, the more affluent amongst them just spent the money and obtained their higher learning degree elsewhere. That gave them their “passport” to migrate.
And what has Malaysia got to say for itself?
– it does not have an education system that is of high standard
– it does not promote true competetiveness to it’s students
– it confuses knowledge and culture
– it loses it’s highly skilled and trained individuals to other countries and laments it, instead of addressing root cause and retaining it’s sons and daughters
And Tun, what about your grandchildren – are they going to stay in Malaysia and make this country prosperous? What will be their take on making Malaysia their only home in years to come?
In 10 to 20 years time and with the current state of brain drain in this country, Malaysia might just end up establishing dual citizenship to avoid it’s talent from packing up and leaving for good.
Thoughts?
(Ravi)
Dear Tun Dr M,
Being a medical doctor is 1 of the most noblest profession and vocation (as you put it). It needs a humanitarian, hardworking, dedicated, committed, caring, etc.
The medical doctor not only is committed to do whatever that is necessary to save life at anytime, anywhere and under any circumstances. It is not easy to be a medical doctor as they are deemed to on call 24 hours a day.
It is for that reason, medical doctors are accorded the honor to include their title with their name officially.
However, the bulk of current medical graduates, seem to take the profession as another rewarding career. Nothing more than that. Negligence and carelessness in them is on the raise.
However, we cannot deny that there are many doctors, who meet all the requirements of an ideal doctor. Let us salute and welcome them and give them the due recognition and respect.
Salam,
Doktor sekarang tidak mencukupi dalam negara.
Kalau pergi klinik makan masa.
Orang yg sakit tambah sakit sebab tunggu lama.
Salam Ramadhan A-Mubarak
http://www.zoompanas2.com/2009/08/ramadhan-lafaz-niat-puasa-ramadhan.html
Tun,
Imagine how nice it would be if you, been a remarkable doctor of the country have stayed on as PM. Alas, what is done is done.
I don’t think our doctors can do well after 2012 when we implement the non-english science and maths teaching. With poor teachers begetting ill-taught students, the medical fraternity will have them for desert.
Medical science for one is among the toughest journey for a graduate to take, indulging in millions of bits of information, mostly sourced from English. Inaccuracy can mean untimely death.
We have to open our doors to better English educated doctors from poorer countries such as India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Philippines. Our country is not offering free education. Why would our students stay? They have high debts to pay.
In order for our graduates to return to this country, its policies must be friendlier and far-sighted as Dr. Mahathir’s was. 22 years was too short. Tun should not have given in to the detractors and just stayed on.
Salam Ramadhan Al-Mubarak!
Redhuan D. Oon
PendAtang Dengan Izin
goverment hospital doctor paid from 2K to 3k for 200-400 patients per day. private hospital doctor paid 20k to 30k for 20-40 patients per day. Then the high mgmt said goverment hospital doctor has high stress. Well, the numbers tell.
Salam Ramadhan especially to TUN & FAMILY,
There is only one Education, and it has only one goal: the freedom of the mind. Anything that needs an adjective, be it civics education, or socialist education, or Christian education, or whatever-you-like education, is not education, and it has some different goal. The very existence of modified “educations” is testimony to the fact that their proponents cannot bring about what they want in a mind that is free. An “education” that cannot do its work in a free mind, and so must “teach” by homily and precept in the service of these feelings and attitudes and beliefs rather than those, is pure and unmistakable tyranny. Much education today is monumentally ineffective. All too often we are giving young people cut flowers when we should be teaching them to grow their own plants.
Go here for further discussion…
http://the-online-education.blinkweb.com
TUN,
i am very agree when you said that Malaysian doctors should serve their own country. But the thing we have to remember that doctors are also human which had to fulfill their needs and wants like other human being.
I understand when people said doctor is not only a profession but also “dedication to the job of healing the sick and caring for them”(paragraph 2) but is it okay to see doctors who are very dedicated but have a poor life relatively to other professionals. Even a singer have a better income compare to a doctor. It is unethical if student choose to be a doctor is driven by income(but many does) but my point is doctor also needs money to eat, to spend with family, to shop, to have a good vacation. Government should make serving in Malaysia looks the best in the eyes of the doctors. Doesn’t means that Gov need to pay as good as rich countries abroad, but Gov may give supports and benefits like holidays, insurance coverage etc to the doctor.
This is only my humble opinion since this entry really attracted me because i am graduated as a doctor in few more years.
Like to read more entries from you.
Salam Tun,,
Selamat menyambut bulan Ramadhan untuk Tun dan isteri.
Saya masih ingat artikel One Fine Day dalam The Star tentang gambar2 Tun yang diambil di Sri Perdana pada bulan Ramadhan pada hari terakhir Tun bersara sebagai PM. Artikel itu ditulis oleh Tara Sastroyardoyo, menantu Tun.
Gambar yang paling menarik ialah gambar Tun berbaring sambil membaca surat khabar disamping buku-buku yang ada dimeja sisi.Termasuk juga gambar bersahur Tun bersama Tun Dr. Siti Hasmah. Serta gambar Tun di bilik mencium cucu Tun sambil diperhatikan oleh Datin Marina.
Saya berharap satu hari nanti saya dapat bergambar dengan Tun.
Salam Ramadhan.
I prefer this kind of story than politic.
However some doctors prefer to lie and give bad medicine that worsen the condition of the patience. wishing them to come again – sick means money.
Maybe these are the ones who controlled the Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) at this moment.
Don’t worry,Tun.By the end of this year, AFTA will be fully opened, foreign doctors from ASEAN are free to come to work in Malaysia.
I expect an influx of Indonesian doctors next year.Why? Simply because RM1 = about 2800 rupiah
Are we going to be more selfish day after day?
Tun, doctors leaving the country for reasons.
1. Good income
2. Good working environment
3. Ability to further their study without too much of red tape
Malaysian doctor are well sought after. Something must be done to prevent them frm leaving the country.
I doubt lots of able foreign doctors will come to Malaysia if we open up the profession to foreigners.
At the end of the day we may end up with the Pakistani, Bangladeshis , Myanmars etc etc etc…
Do you really think let say Australian doctors will come in drove to Malaysia if we open up the proffession to others?
Doctors are also human. They need to feed their family and live the lifestyle that fit their status.
I had worked in both local and foreign environment, and there are lots of differences between the two.
For example : houseman in Malaysia work on call from almost a day and the day after continue working up to 4.30 pm (officially) unoffically most will work at to 6 PM.
Houseman in a developed foreign country: doing on call for a day, the day after work up to 12 pm , and allowed time off thereafter.
Yes doctors have certain expectation but at the end of the day , they have family to look after and to mingle around.
Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir..
I’ve always looked up to doctors (and teachers) and I will always do!
The early years of a doctor is HARD to endure. The long shifts, meagre pay and now their holiday being frozen… But long before that, to get into Med School is HARD too. (I’m experiencing it right now)
I’ve spoken to junior doctors and all of them agree on the same thing ‘A doctor’s life isn’t a bed of roses’
But, like a friend of mine said, “Dapat pahala is EASY”.
Salam Tun,
I can understand what you are trying to say.
But even in the Govt Hospitals, they are very unwilling to take junior doctors, they only want highly experienced ones.
My predicament..
I am a non-malaysian, who has been living in Malaysia all this while.
I completed my medical degree from a malaysian private college.
Yet I have been asked to go back to my Home country (despite all my family still residing here).
I am told that the KKM does not employ foreign Housemen, even if they have completed their graduation here..
Although there are ppl who are trying to make way for me, yet its taking too long, while all other batch-mates have already months into their housemanship.
I hope KKM is willing change policy to take non-malaysian fresh medical graduates into housemanship training, provided they have graduated from Malaysian medical colleges – Like Me.
I could apply PR, but then again I am put off by reports that its a hell of a job getting PR, the application most of the times takes years for approval.
Assalamu’alaikum Tun & Family,
ITS ALL ABOUT PATRIOTISM AND SELFISHNESS.
IF U REALLY WANT TO SERVE UR COUNTRY AND NOT MONEY ALONE MATTERS, WHY BOTHER LOOKING FOR JOB OUT THERE?
REASON FOR NOT ALLOWING FOREIGN MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS TO WORK HERE SIMPLY BECAUSE MMA AFRAID OF LOCALS GETTING BETTER TREATMENT WITH CHEAPER COST. CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG.
Tun, please take good care of urself and Tun Hasmah.
Hahahaha…this old is very funny.
How do you expect some doctors’ family to recover the HUGE tuition fees that they have fork out to pay for their education? I mean, some of them score more than 10A1 in SPM and yet not accepted into local universities. So they have to resort to any means (sell house, land, loan from relatives, etc) to look for money in order to go to foreign universities. And the government expect them to come back and work in local hospital for a mere RM3,000 salary a month? This is a joke!
Assalammualaikum Tok Det.
SELAMAT MENYAMBUT BULAN RAMADHAN AL MUBARAK
1. Bukan profession doktor sahaja yang memilih bekerja luar negara tetapi hampir semua professional pun sama.
2. Engineer, akauntan, saintis, peguam, ahli farmasi, dll, semua mahu mencari PENDAPATAN lebih.
3. Contohnya kalau ada tawaran jadi PM atau menteri, semua orang akan berebut memohon sebab boleh dapat pendapatan tinggi. Yang tak layak pun akan mengaku berlayakan sebab nak dapat GAJI BESAR!
4. Bukan tak bagus professional IMPORT ini. Kalau pengambilan bersifat SEMENTARA atau kontrak bagi memenuhi keperluan semasa rasanya tiada masalah dibenarkan.
5. Tetapi kalau tidak dikawal-selia takut nanti bila terlampau ramai mereka akan jadi PATI pulak. Mereka melekat di sini dan susah nak dihalau balik. Mereka ni semua pandai-pandai. Nanti kita pulak diajar atau disamannya nanti.
6. Sepatutnya lebih banyak universiti dan institusi pengajian tinggi tempatan menawarkan jurusan kedoktoran kepada anak tempatan khasnya anak bumiputera dan Melayu/Islam.
7. UiTM sepatutnya boleh menjadi penggerak melahirkan ramai doktor Melayu/Islam. Biar ramai DOKTOR PAKAR dikeluarkan oleh Malaysia dan majoritinya beragama Islam
8. Tetapi paling mustahak KUALITI doktor yang dilahirkan nanti mesti tinggi dan diktiraf seluruh dunia!!!
SELAMAT BERPUASA
PEMBELA
http://pembelamelayu2009.wordpress.com/
Same dedication and values should also be embeded into our teachers.
The doctors who got scholarships to study should come back to Malaysia or their Malaysian passports and assets in Malaysia forfeited and the doctors here shouldn’t be allowed to work overseas unless they sponsor at least 2 Malaysian students to study medicine overseas.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
I am really disappointed with the situation here in Penang. Particularly regarding the issue where my grandmothers kampung house (landed with spaces) in Tanjong Tokong(has been there for hundreds of years) has been demolished and being replace by a mere flat house(which not completed yet due to on going politics situation). On the other hand, the “nutmeg” villagers is being offer a double storey landed house. Well Done. Bravo!! MALAYSIA BOLEH!!
Kenapa perlu birokrasi mengatasi kemanusiaan?..
Memalukan perkara mudah macam ni orang bijak pandai macam doktor tak dapat berpikir. Rezeki datang dari tuhan, bukan dengan membolot semua sumber pendapatan.
Hazman Abu Bakar
/// 7. The nation loses a lot when the people we train opts to work in other countries.
10. Despite all the Government’s efforts we are losing especially the much-needed specialists. ///
Yes, very true. Not just in medicine. In practically every field. And why is that? Could it be due to the fact that if they stay and work in Malaysia, they will not get ahead because of their skin colour? Could it be due to a lack of kulitfication? I think you know the answer.
Assalamualaikum Ayahnda Tun n Bonda,
SALAM 1MALAYSIA to all.
Please allow me,
my humble opinion,
there’s a saying which goes,
“do good unto others n the good will come unto you”
however, some people can only take the good things given to them but can never give back the good to the giver or givers. this happens to many of the brainies who have gone to work overseas just to gain more profit for themselves without having any kind of gratitude towards whom ever has directly brought them up, sacrificed for them or taught them or indirectly paved way for them in the first place. dont be surprised if some have even left their own parents in the the welfare of the government!!! they have forgotten all about their alma matter, their background, family, relatives and friends…
The professionals, expatriates and even some malaysian illegal immigrants overseas always act nonchalantly as if they never owe themselves to this country. they never have the love for malaysia. that is why they behave the way they do. they never have faith in building up their own nation. they only believe that the grass is greener on the other side…
and they will say that common people like the rest of us who stay put and work in this country are the unfortunate ones because we are not like them, the brainies…
what ever, there’s only one destination for all human beings in the end…hopefully not an ugly ending, all alone, on their own, being individualistic and selfish…
May Allah SWT bless both Ayahnda n Bonda and all malaysians who help to build our nation…
HAPPY 52ND INDEPENDENT DAY CELEBRATION!!!!
Wassalam.
MMA: Selfishness in its worst sense!
The government must ‘recall’ all its gov-sponsored doctors to come back and serve the nation.
Salam tun and all,
1. They want their cakes and eat them too.
2. Who are they? Only they, and those around them know. After all, it is an elite circle of professionals which we, the-don’t-knows-and-don’t-haves; are not privy to.
3. This elite circle is much like the Bar Council; closed to the rest, open only to a privileged few. So closed that they are untouchable, they can say, do, whatever they want because they KNOW the law- and we are unlearned ones who don’t know anything.
4. Tun, these people are always right, wonder if your article today hits anywhere near their sacred bodies, doctors and lawyers alike. These people are above the society and live among their elite circles only- don’t believe me? Go check and see.
5. Very few escaped this circle Tun, and you very narrowly did.
Jaga diri, jaga solat, Tun and all.
sikenit.
Tun
What is there such a big problem in migration of doctors and educated individuals in Malaysia to other countries which goes back during your tenureship? What could have done to arrest this issue?
Salam Tun,
Saya rasa sudah sampai masanya kerajaan mengkaji struktur gaji para Doktor di Hospital Awam.
Selamat menyambut bulan Ramadhan.
we need new sincere breeds of doctors…
had unpleasant experience last month… details…
http://sharat-s.blogspot.com/2009/07/medical-gods.html
sheikh faleigh
My dear TUN,
If a man loves the labour of any trade apart from any question of success or fame, the gods have called him. For many people a job is more than an income – it’s an important part of who we are. So a career transition of any sort is one of the most unsettling experiences you can face in your life. Consequently, it is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles.
Happy Ramadhan!!!………..http://leadership-development.blinkweb.com
Aslmualaikum wbt
Tun,
every year government support hundred (maybe thousand) of student to study abroad. one of my friend who his daughter study in Dublin said that the cost to study medic there almost 1 million ringgit. i’m quite surprise but i think it is worth.
actually it is not worth if our doctors (who under JPA or private scholarship)prefer to contribute to the develop country which can offer them handsome income without any concern that they should repay to the society who really need their services.
one of my friend who still study in IIUM Kuantan studying nursing plan to work in Dubai after he graduate. He said to me that many of Malaysian professionals (engineers, doctors, architect etc) work in Dubai because they are paid better than in Malaysia. As a nurse, he can earn more than 5k per month in UAE. But in Malaysia, he could only earn below 2k.
Tun,
It should be okay for them to work abroad. it is their rights but how about Malaysia?
we spent billion of ringgit to support education but at the end of the day our people contribute to other countries.
we are losing
in fact, we have to bring foreigner to do things that our people don’t want to do at the first place.
my suggestion
1. we already have technology and expertise – we should restrict to sent our students abroad especially student who are taking critical courses. Study in Malaysia is better. we can cut cost. instead of send our student, we can pay reputed academician to work here and teach our doctors
2. force the students to work in Malaysia after graduate. Amend the previous term n conditions regarding scholarships because it seems not working. ask them to sign an agreement before they fly.
3. Allowing foreign expertise to enter will not settle things down in the short term. But it is one of the solution for the moment.
Tun
year 2020 is just around the corner
Most of the talented doctors work in other countries, as they are not given opportunity in his/her own country ….
and guess what …. they get scholarship from other countries rather than own country … not a fact? hmmm ….