EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA

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1. Ever since the Europeans and this includes the Americans, lost to the Eastern countries in the manufactured goods markets, they have switched to the financial market. Through the many products they created in this market they seem to be able to grow and maintain their wealth and prosperity as shown by such indices as the GDP and Per Capita income.

2. But the business is spurious. The financial market is basically about gambling. Ever since America decided that the market should regulate itself, that there should be less Government, all kinds of unacceptable practices have been allowed. Short selling expanded from shares to commodities to currencies, Banks lend more money than they have and allowed highly leveraged borrowings by hedge funds and currency traders. They indulge in sub-prime loans, securing these imprudent lending by mortgaging and insurance.

3. In real business the costs in the European countries are unduly high because of high salaries and wages for workers’ pensions, bonuses, short working hours, long paid holidays, unemployment and other social benefits. The standard of living may be high but European products cannot compete with the products of the East in world markets.

4. The currency trading today, for example is said to be worth four trillion dollars a day, equal to the total productivity of Germany in one year. Whereas producing goods and services by Germany spins off all kinds of supporting and other businesses as well as millions of jobs, currency trading spins off no businesses nor create any real jobs. All the dealing involves only the entry of figures in bank books. The earnings are real enough and can contribute to GDP and Per Capita growth. But the picture of economic growth indicated by these indices is false as the wealth belongs to a very small percentage of the population.

5. The sums involved are however huge, running into hundreds of billions and even trillions of dollars. When the bottom fell out, the losses are equally huge, sufficient to bankrupt even the biggest banks. Even countries can go bankrupt.

6. When you lose money, you become poor. Countries are the same. When they lose money or they borrow beyond their means and cannot pay, they become poor.

7. The problem is an unwillingness to admit that they, the Europeans, the Americans, the icons of the free market and economic prosperity are now poor. As a result all the manoeuvres so far are aimed at staying rich, at maintaining a lifestyle that is untenable.

8. The only real way out is to accept a lifestyle that is associated with lower incomes. But the people are demanding to live the rich life they were used to before. The austerity programs are rejected with demonstrations and strikes. And these simply aggravate the situation.

9. If wages and salaries as well as bonuses and other perks are lowered, then the production of goods and services by the workers would cost less. The goods will be able to compete again in the markets against those of the East. Real businesses would then be able to be resuscitated.

10. At the same time the financial market should be curbed. Operations out of tax havens should not be allowed and all accounts must be submitted to the authorities. Currencies should be pegged to a new independent trading currency based on a specific amount of gold or other precious metal. The fluctuation in value would be minimal, making doing business less uncertain.

11. With the lower cost of production there will be no necessity to outsource in Asia. The industries of Europe would be revived and contribute towards overcoming unemployment and early settlement of debts. Real wealth would be generated.

12. The Europeans also spend far too much on weapons. Research, development and upgrading swallow up huge amounts of money. As the weapons become more sophisticated the costs go up sky high. Where before a fighter plane would cost a million dollars, now they cost 50 to 100 million dollars.

13. Yet these weapons are quite useless in fighting the guerrilla wars they are likely to face. And they dare not have wars with countries with the same military capacities because it would be ruinous for everybody and would probably spell the end of the world.

14. Their military budget contributes to the wastage of funds as the likelihood is that the weapons would never be used for the purpose they are developed, certainly not on the scale they are being prepared for.

15. Everything points towards a new Bretton Woods. The world’s economy has become much more liked and integrated that a new set of monetary, financial and banking system needs to be negotiated and devised, taking into consideration the views and problems of the poor countries as well. There should be no thoughts about hegemony; military, political or economic.

50 thoughts on “EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA”

  1. Dear Amin,

    I mean no disrespect to Encik Sudin at all. However your point of him being elder is irrelevant in the discussion that we are having. Respect is a two way street as I have mentioned before. We come from a society where the elder is always right. I dont think so in todays society where information is freely available to all ages. You may have one up on me in terms of life experiences. However, stating your age does not end the convo or make it right. I do respect your opinions and am glad that you brought up the stats. I am still learning about my country. Sir, you are trying to convince me otherwise on something that I have seen and read. Can we please get back to the issues here.

    I have stated yes, help the Malays. Are you denying the fact that we should help others that need it as well who are not Malays? Encik Sudin, respectfully, if you can come out and state that, then the conversation ends here and I wont forcefully reinforce the same point I have been making. It is tiring. Please also have a look at the oppositions manifesto and agenda. If you disagree, I would love to know why. And please stick to the facts. Dont bring up things like its empty promises and such. We will never know until they come into power. For now, lets just discuss about their views on Msia. I will bring certain issues to light and would love to hear your thoughts if you agree or disagree.

    1) Should we pursue further on the case of Altantuuya? The rakyat wants to know who pulled the trigger. Not the bullet.
    2) Is corruption an issue that should be addressed?
    3) Abuse of police power epsc police beatings.
    4) Judiciary system clean or not??? Why so many discrepencies between trials.
    5) Education system needs to compete with other countries in Asia
    6) One student who on merit got 15 As in SPM but denied scholarship because of race. Fair or not?
    7) Economically, we were once considered in competition with South Korea and Taiwan. Not anymore…Why???
    8) Government loves the constitution but been broken many times????
    9) ISA arrests legal or not? Including EO as well.
    10) Should we be allowed human rights or not? Conditions are bad and Human Rights Index dont paint us in a good light. If I post my opinions, I could be locked up. Justified or not?

    Encik Sudin, as an elder supporter of BN, these issues are in my mind as to how I place my vote in the next GE. If you could kindly address these issues, I would really be grateful. Thank you. Lastly, I am sorry if I did come across as rude in anyway. I hope you do not take any of my statements to heart. As a young voter, I would like to get down to the grassroots level and learn more about ppl`s perception on the country. Thank you and have a nice day

  2. Encik Sudin,

    I do apologize for not putting a proper name. My bad.
    Thank you ever so kindly for your advice. I would like also like to take a minute to spread your advice kindly to all our younger generation. Tak payahlah get involved or know what the country or government is up to. Focus on studies and work. Lepas tu, make sure you earn good money and take care of the family. Sudin, again thank you for your advice. I will continue to focus on my studies, so I can get a good job with decent salary. Also, I am thinking about my family. Life is not always about me, studies, work and money. I was once your apathatic Malaysian. Should we keep it that way? Tak payah vote also nvm. As long as the family is prosperous and no war, why worry about the neighbours. That way, BN can also continue ruling for the next 100 years. Do you see how your comment of focus on your studies does not tie in with what we are discussing? I presume you must also agree very much with the AUKU then. Uni students tak payah get involved with politics. Vote anyone saja, or better yet vote our PM issnt it. Because god forbid if you take too much awareness about politics, your studies will be affected. Politics is only for the working professionals and adults. Well sir, If I can kindly put it out there, there are thousands and thousands of students out there who are much more aware then your average Msian citizen. Take Adam for example in regards to the Najib flag fiasco, I dont necessarily agree with him. BUT we need ppl like him. Go around and ask your typical Msian out there. What politics in Msia. As long as pocket is full, tak yalah get involved. Yes, I will forget about awareness and study harder. Going for first class degree.

    You are extremely right in terms of the target not being reached yet. I said lets try and re-address it. But people are still thinking its fine. OK. So, let the government keep siding the bumis. Private sector will keep siding the chinese and indians. No wait, private sector and business are mostly ruled by them anyways. Government will be deemed racist cause they champion bumis. Chinese will also be deemed racists because they dont agree with the government. If Malays are alr getting help, lets help our own. And you know what, the pvt sector will overkill the bumis in terms of numbers. The so-called quota is being abused by the few. Have you never questioned why are the targets not being met? Are you not interested? Its like a viscous cycle. If you cant seem to reason with that, then I guess the convo ends here. I am not jealous or disagreeing with the system. I said re-address the issues. Why are the number not being met. Have they studied the reprecussions of having such policies in place?

    I know I may come off as rude or sarcastic. I apologize. You are older than I am. In asian culture, the man who has eaten more rice knows more about the world. It is true in some way and I respect that. However, in the world we live in today, information is available freely. I am merely trying to state facts from my side and would like that same respect that you demand from me as well. Yes, you are older but I believe respect is a two way street. You cant just brush me off saying masih mentah lagi, go study and you are right. Whatever facts that you have stated, I clearly agree and the facts are there. This is not about arguing but I am merely trying to put a point across. I get defensive yes, who on earth wouldnt after being asked to leave and give up my citizenship.

  3. Dear Amin Tan,

    I think when it comes to discussing politics and religion, it is never personal and should never be personal whether we are championing causes for ourselves or others. I do apologize if I sound arrogant. Believe me, that is not the case and I am merely stating facts. However, when you say that I look down on others, I have to disagree. Please point me to the direction where I was disrespectful towards them. It was the straight shooters out there who like to state cold hard facts. My point is Amin, if we all stated the cold hard facts, there would be another race riot. Now in terms of self censorship and having a filter, I have held back espc when it comes to speaking about race. There are videos from parliament where chinese and indians were blatantly called pendatang. I mean these ppl exist in Parliament. The so called wakil rakyat. I guess at the end of the day, lets not talk about it anymore. I do apologize to everyone for bringing up negative things or lies. Amin, is that what you would want to hear? I mean come on, I have a right to voice my opinions as well. Speaking of the trial, YES I will agree that Anwar has gone around the country speaking about the trial which would be wrong. But then again, that is Anwar…He is a criminal and convict. I expect that from him. I dont expect any nonsense from our judiciary. Amin, why have you not commented on certain things that I have brought up. You keep bringing up the big picture time and time and again. Then, I am deemed rude instead. Please do kindly comment on the specifics of the trial that I brought up before. I really would like to hear the other side. Again, doesnt mean if I criticize our government, I am with the opposition. I have stated many times, opposition is not ready or prepared for putrajaya IMO. Amin, if you tell me that as a rakyat Malaysia, tak boleh criticize and diam, then I will. I shall spread that cause freely for other Malaysians as well. We shall see how well that cause is taken up by people.

  4. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,
    Sdr. Mubarakchan said,
    …Life has been no big deal for me. I just complete every project given to me successfully. I never counted the ringgits and sens beforehand. And for me the priorities are health, happiness and money !
    IT IS THE REFLECTION OF OUR LIFE, SIR.

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN
    Ps. Birds of a feather flock together.. ehm

  5. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,

    Salam kasih sayang ‘uncle’ Mubarakchan,

    Four days were like four frustrating months trying to get excess into chedet.cc. Just got through and your lighthearted remarks on ‘uncle’ gave us the gigles… we are finished too..hahaha
    Sir, it needs a better man to call us a good man.. and we very much appreciated when it came from the heart of a better man.
    But both of us knew that the best of all amongst the good men is none other than our Ayahanda Rakyat Tun!
    And to the Grand Statesman we say THANK YOU VERY MUCH for making us proud rakyat of Malaysia at home and abroad.

    May Allah swt bless the rakyat of this beautiful nation with love and harmony.

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
    Ps.. We’re now officially a Datuk and can’t wait for the sweet grandchild of mine to call for her Atuk when she starts talking.. hehe

  6. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,
    Four days were like four frustrating months trying to get excess into chedet.cc. Just got through and the lighthearted remarks on ‘uncle’ gave us the gigles… we are finished too..hahaha
    Sir, it needs a better man to call us a good man.. and is very much appreciated when it came from the heart of a better man.
    But both of us knew that the best of all amongst the good men is none other than our Ayahanda Rakyat Tun!
    An to the grand Statesman we say THANK YOU VERY MUCH for making us proud rakyat of Malaysia at home and abroad.

    May Allah swt bless the rakyat of this beautiful nation with love and harmony.

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN.
    Ps.. We’re now officially a Datuk and can’t wait for the sweet grandchild of mine to call for her Atuk when she starts talking.. hehe

  7. Salam Tun.

    I wish to clarify a few ‘rights’ which were misconstrued to be ‘wrongs’ by ‘juks’.

    Hi ‘juks’,

    Please don’t feel offended by my statement “whoever or whatever you are”. I really don’t know who you are and it’s your fault that you never put a proper name instead of just ‘juks’, besides I can’t guess whether you are male/female/bisexual.

    By the way, the Bumis are still very far from the targeted 30% economic cake ownership and thus there’s no stopping in the implementation of article 153. Furthermore, there’s no mention anywhere that article 153 to be scraped even after the 30% achievement!!
    Why should the Bumis want to scrape it!

    After reading through all your replies, I wish to give the same humble advice to you, concentrate first on your studies.

  8. Assalamualaikum Tun,

    1. Agree. Sadly, it is a worldly issue and not just theirs.

    2. Sometimes I do think that they read your blogposts,as it seems like some of them are cutting their military budgets. Good for them.

    3. Most of Asian countries are now independent from their total control and that scares them to the bone. If they fall economically, the power balance will certainly be shifted to the East.

    4. One option that I can see where they might opt doing is to bring others fall together with them. Certainly it would not be good for Eastern and Southern countries, but would be good for them. Sparking another war and destabilising energy prices might work.

    Keep healthy Tun.

    fbm

  9. [email protected]

    Let us have something lighthearted in the midst of our famous annual festivities with the Tun’s permission. This is a true story.

    A long time ago, I used to travel down to Singapore by the ‘ Comet ‘ a four engined jet, from the Sungei Besi International Airport at 6 a.m. The stewardess always sat next to me when I had my breakfast. Some years later, the stewardesses would call me ‘Ing. Chan’ and much later I was known as ‘Sir’. Now, when I travel they call me ‘Uncle’. I know I am finished !

    Saudara [email protected] you are a good man !

  10. Dear Sudin,

    Thank you for educating me with the stats of the nation and disparity between the races. I always knew there was a gap but wasnt too sure on exact numbers. It is somewhat scary seeing it firsthand. However, you are mistaking my point. What would be your proposed solution to that? I guess we live in a world where it is a numbers game and majority takes the pot. You are either with the current system or against it. I just realised that the reprecussions of having this in place is causing tension as well. Fine, help the malays. I have no problems with it as long as someone truly needs it. However, as mentioned by Tuntuah previously, he has had his fair share of being sidelined in chinese companies. That is the effect of having a racial sided policy in place. Governments can always side the Malays and the private sector will continue to side chinese and indians. Is this the Malaysia you want? I guess racism it not out in the open as we all practice self censorship. The stats speak for itself where we will never see a Malay CEO running a chinese corporation. Same goes for international companies. You will rarely see a foreigner running it from the top. Does it not start with governance to change ppl`s mentality and perception. The opposition has been championing ppl regardless of race. I think the chinese race have also contributed to the disparity by sidelining other races due to anger perhaps??? Or maybe we are just tuned the way we are where we gravitate more towards our own kind. Whatever it is, we need to change that perception. By engaging in these converstaions out in the open, perhaps we could all be more aware or also try and change ourselves first. Dont ask others to give up their citizenships and what not.

    Looking back at my other posts, I apologize again for the statement I made where I said I was ashamed. I think that was my emotion talking and not rational thinking. I still regard Malaysia as home and haev no intention of leaving it in the longer term. You clearly know Malaysia well and Im surprised that you dont see any problems with it.

  11. Dan perdana menteri DS Najib mensasarkan rakyat malaysia menjadi rakyat berpendapatan tinggi…!!

  12. Dear Tun,

    Please allow me to reply to Juks,

    Juks says,

    “Anyone here followed the way the trials were conducted including the first?????Now this is not about PM. Im not going to get into politics. In regards to our judiciary system. I have shown articles to law students over here who are laughing their heads off at the way the trial was conducted. Even with tampering of evidence and such. Now, no one here is interested in irregularities. The thing is many of us Msians had already made up our mind before the 2nd trial. Some thinks he is and some dont. The process or outcome will not change our minds as we all believe its political. Hence, whatever the outcome is, we have already made up our minds. So fine, I sit on the fence. I dont care about the verdict. IT IS THE CONDUCT OF THE TRIALS. Amin, could you kindly reply. You are no lawyer as Im not, but do read up. It is based on layman`s terms. I am not trying to change your mind. But lets be aware about it. This is the sort of judiciary running in Msia and I love it. Malaysia Boleh!”

    Dear Juks,

    You said that you are not anti national or anti Malaysia, but your unfair and lopsided comment of our judiciary speaks otherwise. Our beloved BN government has been very fair to the accused, Anwar Ibrahim, this time around. Just because the government has been trying to please the Opposition and people like you this time around, the accused has been given so much freedom which he abused it. In a criminal trial like sodomy or rape the accused is remanded in jail because he would be deemed to be dangerous and can influence the verdict to his favor. Anwar was allowed to travel all over the country and the world to claim his innocence. This should not be allowed. This is not fair to the victim, Saiful whose anus has been sodomised. Mr Juks, please remember 901 the day the verdict was announced. Anwar’s political machinery and fierce supporters had declared Anwar was innocent even before the verdict was announced. The noisy and dangerous crowd of his supporters had threatened the government so much so that the Honourable judge was intimidated and pronounced an acquittal verdict. I saw the video of Tien Chua, PKR Vice Predident instigating the crowd by declaring using a hailer ‘yang paling jahat Mahathir, Najib..’ Why should this illegal demonstration be allowed just to make people like Mr Juks happy. But Juks and his type would always belittle and disdain his own country no matter what and sarcastically declare ‘Malaysia boleh’. Your condemnation of our judiciary and you said the ‘stench of our own back yard’ shows that you are not neutral but anti national. Your opinions are lofty and arrogant and you insult and look down on Sudin and all of us. If you know Sudin personally he is such a jolly good fellow, no one can deny. He graduated from University of Malaya in Engineering and some of his children may be older than Mr Juks.

    amin tan

  13. For [email protected]

    Some people think I am stupid not to seek rewards and poor because I have no decorations. But I walked to the sound of my own drums since I was a teenager. I became a fervent nationalist by mixing with my Malay friends a long time ago during the days leading up to Merdeka. Before this, I never met a single Malay.

    Life has been no big deal for me. I just complete every project given to me successfully. I never counted the ringgits and sens beforehand. And for me the priorities are health, happiness and money ! Some of my friends are also of the same ilk !

    I wish you and your family well !

  14. One last thing Encik Sudin,

    You have posted numerous things about Anwar being guilty since 98. Can I enlighten you with a news clip featuring SUKMA on an aussie news channel confessing how the government forced him to confess. FAKE right? ALSO, our fav Private Investigator Bala is featured on youtube with his lawyer. His real lawyer stating how the cops were in cohorts. FAKE too right. I am too guillible and still young. Please forgive me. I dont watch tv3 or local media but only follow opposition blogs which are filled with garbage. THe last GE which was filled with dirt. There are pics and vids live evidence backing them. I guess it was a stage show. BERSIH demands for electoral reforms are also fake. We want kotor instead. BERSIH which has nothing to do with opposition. ITS AN NGO ffs. Human rights lawyers also arrested. Wait, we are not allowed to talk about human rights? Do you follow the news in China? Can I send you some evidence? You send me some of Anwar as well. Clearly, you seem to know much about his personal life. I have said before that I am on the fence. Politically, I am not too convinced on the opposition. BUT, these are the issues. Lets not hide them. Bring in some dirt on BN pleaseee. BN has done so much and I will admit that. However, I have never seen the country in a worst state over the last few years. Sudin, you talk convincingly about the constitution and I love that. Can I provide more examples of where the constitution wasnt followed? So now the government can choose specifically on which ones they would like to follow.

    Mate, the thing is whatever you come up with, there is something else. For every good BN has done, there were also horrible times. My point is, dont sugar coat it. Lets discuss the problems freely and spread awareness.

  15. Salam Tun.

    I made some statistical errors in my comments submitted on 24/01/2012 @1:38am.

    To ‘juks’ and fellow bloggers, kindly refer to the amended statistics as shown below on the Malay students studying in western countries & the estimated Malaysian population during the early 1970s:

    “During the early 1970s, only about 20,000 Bumi students studied in western countries, and about 99% of them were sponsored by the Malaysian government. In contrast there were more than 100,000 Malaysian Chinese that were studying overseas and >99% of them were family sponsored!

    “You can imagine the economic and educational gap between the Bumis and the Chinese.

    “Now if you consider the Chinese to comprise 26% of Malaysia’s 12 million population then as compared to the Bumis 62% majority population, and if on the average a Malaysian family has 6 household members, there were then 520,000 Chinese families and with a ratio of 1 in 5 Chinese family affordably sent a child to further studies overseas.

    “In comparison, there were 1.24 million Bumi families, and a ratio of 1 in 62 Bumi family having a child studying overseas ON SCHOLARSHIP!

    “The statistics were far worse and to the Bumi’s disadvantage before the May 13 ’69 racial riots.
    I strongly believe the Malaysian Chinese shudder at the thought of its recurrence.”

    Any inconvenience is greatly regretted.
    Thank you.

  16. Oh one last thing Mr. Sudin,

    Conduct of trials in Malaysia have broken the constitution many times. Have you ever attended any hearings? They sway all the time and never follow accurately. You seem to love the consitution. Watch more news offshore rather than TV3…Get both sides of the perspective and choose. All the detainees under EO and ISA was against the constitution.
    It also states that people are allowed to speak freely without offending of course. The BERSIH rally which was peaceful initially was abiding the constitution. Man, you people jst love to debate. Stop bringing up nonsense defending yourself THEN blindly shooting yourself in the foot.

  17. Oh Sudin,

    What we are asking for is change. Are we not allowed to do so?
    I know it is in the constitution. We life in diff times now mate. I know you would love to see your OWN people suceed too. I am against poverty all over the world. It is regardless of race or anything. In other countries, what we practice today in civil society is backwards and downright discrimination. So, stop bringing up history. We are not questioning history. We are questioning the present and are those things still relevant in society today when there are poor chinese, indian and malays out there. Its saja. Oh, tak boleh??? Haram.
    Pendatang asing. give up your citizenship.

    Sudin, as mentioned before again, easy jabs are just a cheap shot. It does not provide for any solution to country`s problems. Yes, the country because we are not leaving. Sorry to disappoint. Instead of coming up with empathic solutions or thoughts, like your idol YB Khairy Jamaluddin from UMNO says, people are asking me to leave. Good on you. =)

  18. Oh right, technical grounds sorry my bad. I was too buzy reading other articles rather than watching TV3. lol
    Anyhow, as mentioned before time and time and again,
    it wasnt the verdict that was fussed about. If he is guilty prosecute accordingly. DONE.
    Anyone here followed the way the trials were conducted including the first?????Now this is not about PM. Im not going to get into politics. In regards to our judiciary system. I have shown articles to law students over here who are laughing their heads off at the way the trial was conducted. Even with tampering of evidence and such. Now, no one here is interested in irregularities. The thing is many of us Msians had already made up our mind before the 2nd trial. Some thinks he is and some dont. The process or outcome will not change our minds as we all believe its political. Hence, whatever the outcome is, we have already made up our minds. So fine, I sit on the fence. I dont care about the verdict. IT IS THE CONDUCT OF THE TRIALS. Amin, could you kindly reply. You are no lawyer as Im not, but do read up. It is based on layman`s terms. I am not trying to change your mind. But lets be aware about it. This is the sort of judiciary running in Msia and I love it. Malaysia Boleh!

  19. Sudin,

    Lets be real. Are you in support of the racial policies because you are a Malay or you respect the constitution? Or whether you were given help? These are the facts. I think the government neeeds to study why people are indeed opposing these policies. It is causing social disturbance. BUT WAIT, you would prolly say that Juks, it is ppl like you fussing about it. Lets not talk about it. Leave it as it is. We need to subsidize for more bungalows and cars for the Malays. My point is, by questioning so, does not make it wrong. Yes, I am young and have much to learn. However, I am saying that people are not happy with it. There has to be reason and it needs to be studied by the government. The thing is many ppl do not have problems with the less fortunate. So, of course in your defence is the constitution. Well, in my defence of my believe, keep helping the poor Malays. DEFINATELY. However, after that, earn your own money and get yourself your own bungalow for christ sake. Now for people who think I may be jealous, TRUST ME, IM NOT!!!! The world is so caught up with people who have more things and money. Lets look the other way…..I dont care about the richest ppl in the world. I am more interested the ones who cant help themselves.

    And for the last time, you question my maturity??? Mr. Sudin, look around us in this blog. People are asking me to leave my country. Picture a diff country. Haha. If you are british but tak suka government, you can leave to europe. Funny thing is that this nonsense of giving up citizenship only exists in Malaysia.

    Lastly, mate there is no need for harsh or childish ways. whoever or whatever??? seriously. Are you a working professional or a family man? Thing is, be careful for what you wish for. If you decide to start shooting straight at others, do kindly expect the same treatment in place.

  20. Tun, now I understnad why self-cencorship is important. Lets not speak out. People think we are more content that way. Because god forbid, anything we say, will cause outrage.
    Oh btw, Amin, the opposition is poisoning my mind.
    Could I send you youtube vids. I think they paid some people to record their interviews and vids. Bala is on youtube declaring he was paid to keep quiet. Sukma is on youtube interviewed by aussie journalist saying how he was tortured into confessing. The same idiot cops are still around. Some promoted even. Amin, please do yourself a favor and watch it. Then, come back and let me know if I am misguided. Because in asian terms, you have eaten more rice than me. I am still young and have much to learn. Do advice please.

    Amin,

    I couldnt agree much much more with what you have said in regards to Britian. So called developed world, but it is crumbling down espc the upcoming generation. Booze and sex is your average Friday over here. I condemn that completely. However, if you do get to experience certain ppl over here, they are much more civilised. THe country is wayyy cleaner. People are more outgoing and social. In asia, just be quiet and put your head down. Coz uncle knows more about the world than you do. This sort of oppression starts young in asia which I think really limits their personality. I am all for respect but I also believe that respect is a two way street espc here in the UK. You boss is not much bigger than you. You can clearly disagree with him without being in fear of losing your job. As I said, respect being key is a two way street here. Not back home, I dare you challenge your boss. I said challenge and not disrespect. So, yea I am not saying change to western culture. But we can learn little things. I was an extremely quiet person before I left for the UK. Never really wanted to say much as that was the so called environment. Dont voice your opinion or your thoughts. I have seen children here who speak with such confidence. Just my two cents on the UK.

  21. Sudin,

    I know the history and purpose of racial balancing in Malaysia. It was back in those days. Is it still unbalanced in Malaysia? That is the real question. I highly doubt you are sure of that. Fine, lets just say it is still inbalanced. Keep fixing it. However, it has changed but they are now subsidizing all sort of nonsense. There are subsidized bungalows near Mont Kiara which is only allowed for purchase to BUMIS. Again, you call me racist. Mr. Sudin, why cant a chinese or Indian purchase those properties? I have never had a problem with anyone getting anything. You bring out cold hard facts like the constitution. Fair enough, Bold and straight. Well, the straight facts are, Malays were always struggling. You talk about needy. Getting a freaking bungalow has nothing to do with needy anymore. This is more about social standing. Go get a job and work hard. Pay for your bungalow. Sudin, you can come out with everything. I respect the constitution clearly. But youre asking me to sit by and say nothing for others who are less fortunate than some Malays who are getting a slice of the cake. NO. I wont just sit by. Get a real job and pay for your own fancy house. Straight enough? If you can ask me to leave the country which I love, then yea.

  22. Salam Tun,

    Perhaps it is time to abandon the usury-based global financial system. The Europeans and Americans should take a close, unprejudiced look at the Islamic financial system as an option to get them out of the problem they are in. The bankers won’t like it of course because it will stop them from making money out of nothing, but the ordinary European or American citizen might find it attractive if the principles of Islamic finance are explained clearly to them.

    Now, before some of your visitors start shouting ‘Islamic extremist’, ‘human rights violator,’ or ‘red-eyed raghead’ at me, please allow me to explain why I think Islamic finance is the way to go not only in curtailing financial crises but a host of other problems.

    The present financial crisis started in the US when the Americans raised interest rates leading to a slowdown in the US housing markets. Home buyers who could barely pay their mortgages when interest rates were low started defaulting on their payments. Default rates went up and the effects were felt in the entire US financial system because mortgagers had parcelled their loans to other financial institutions. As the effects were felt, these institutions reduced their lending resulting in a credit crunch. The supply of money dried up affecting financial institutions in other countries including Europe. At the same time, European banks also felt the brunt of the ‘sub-prime’ mortgages as they had bought the toxic loans that had been nicely packaged and parcelled out to them by US banks. Money then became really tight and banks started telling people that they they won’t be getting their money back. People got anxious and started a run on their banks and the banks, in turn, started going belly up — because they had no physical money in the first place. In Europe, Icelandic banks were among the first to keel over along with banks in the UK, Switzerland, France and Germany. This caused a recession; governments had less money because of reduced tax income and people who had made investments became nervy and wary and started looking at countries’ debts. Greece was found to have a high debt to income ratio and the rest is history.

    But the underlying problem is usury. Greece has a large debt and has to pay about USD 2 billion a month in interest payments alone. European finance ministers huddle up in some swanky building in a swanky town and what do they talk about? Interest rates. Greece has been told to smarten up its act if it wants ‘cheap loans’ or bail out money: meaning loans at low interest rates. Again, interest rates.

    Every action to relieve the PIIGS countries of their problem gives a nod to interest rates. Usury underpins every Greek’s misery. It is truly ironic that the home of Aristotle who said that usury was a ‘monstrous perversion’ is suffering as a result of usury.

    Islamic finance (and ‘Christian finance’ at one time) has no room for usury. Lenders can’t make money out of money. Shylock, who has been keeping Matt’s money, can’t make money by lending Matt’s money to Luke. When money is lent or borrowed there are clear terms on the mode and period of repayment, risk and profit-(or loss) sharing, viability of an enterprise. There is, at the end of it, a final economic transaction, something tangible, something material.

    There is no room in Islamic finance for speculation either. Lenders simply won’t lend money for borrowers to speculate on commodities, for example. There is no futures trading. Nobody will get money to speculate on the price of red beans, cotton, potatoes, rice, maize, coffee, cocoa, precious metals, crude oil, and indeed currencies — things which have not been physically harvested, extracted or mined. Islamic lenders simply won’t lend money to barbarous scum who use the money to speculate on the prices of food, driving the prices of food up and making people die of hunger around the world.

    And all these ensure justice. At the individual level there is no exploitation of either the borrower or the lender: both share risks and profits or losses. At the social level the poor may not be oppressed by rising food prices caused by speculation by the rich.

  23. Salam,
    Amerika dan Eropah akan cuba terus menjajah dunia sejak dari zaman dahulu lagi. Senjata digunakan untuk memaksa dunia ikut kehendak depa sekiranya kaedah diplomasi gagal. Jadi kalau depa sengket/miskin, depa masih ada senjata untuk lanyak orang lain. Lihatlah sejarah Amerika Utara, Amerika Selatan, Australia dan New Zealand. Habis orang asli kena lanyak dengan depa kerana kerakusan depa kepada kemewahan duniawi.

    Siapa dengar cakap Amerika dan Eropah seperti Singapura, Korea Selatan, Taiwan dan Jepun banyaklah ganjaran diberikan. Siapa lawan cakap, banyak kesengsaraan dikenakan. Ingatlah kata2 hikmat George Bush kata “”If you are not with us you are against us” . Sebenarnya bukan saja George Bush tetapi saya percaya hampir semua pemimpin Eropah dan Amerika bersifat demikian.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    (Al-Baqarah 2:120)
    Orang-orang Yahudi dan Nasrani tidak sekali-kali akan bersetuju atau suka kepadamu (wahai Muhammad) sehingga
    engkau menurut agama mereka (yang telah terpesong itu). Katakanlah (kepada mereka): “Sesungguhnya
    petunjuk Allah (agama Islam itulah petunjuk yang benar”. Dan demi sesungguhnya jika engkau menurut kehendak
    hawa nafsu mereka sesudah datangnya (wahyu yang memberi) pengetahuan kepadamu (tentang kebenaran),
    maka tiadalah engkau akan peroleh dari Allah (sesuatupun) yang dapat mengawal dan memberi pertolongan
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Perbuatan pemimpin2 Eropah dan Amerika tidak semestinya menggambarkan sifat rakyat depa. Ada tangan2 ghaib disebalik tindakan pemimpin2 politik Eropah dan Amerika .

    Sama2 kita doakan Malaysia bebas dari campurtangan asing .

  24. errr.. juks,

    being ‘cleared’ on technical grounds doesn’t mean that you did not commit.

    correct me if Im wrong.

  25. The problems you quote are particularly acute in Europe and America where the acquistive, macho culture is dominant. But are we really free from these universal tendencies and to what extent does it pose a challenge to UMNO and Malay dominance? If the situation is truly dicey, can glib talk or unexpected developments tip the scale in favour of ‘regime change’ ala Europe and America?

  26. Dear Tun,

    Please allow to reply to Juks on western culture

    Mr juks say,

    ” Lastly, what is so wrong with western society? I have said before. Lets learn good from them. AND AGAIN, dont take this out of context. I said we can learn good from western culture as well. Western culture in itself is not all bad. There is good in every culture be it asian or western.”

    When I say the decay of western culture i mean the promiscuity and free or perverted sex in the western society. Homosexuality like gay or lesbians are normal. Pornography is widespread in England. You can even download pornography into your hand phone in England. Their newspapers are full of naked women like the Sun or Daily Sports or Sunday and Saturday Sports are full of pictures of naked women meant to arouse men sexually. These newspapers are easily available on news stand every where in England. In that case might as well everybody goes about naked. Of course, young men like Mr Juks would enjoy ogle at their newspaper which does not contain much news anyway except gossips.

    The hospitals in England mostly treat people injured as a result of heavy drinking of alcohol. Almost every row of building in England has a bar or alcohol serving outlet. This alcohol drinking culture is not healthy.

    However, the climate and the quality of education in England is good.

    amin tan

  27. Dear Tun,

    May I reply to Juks, second part.

    Mr Juks says amin tan is a muslim extremist.

    Theoretically speaking, from CIA or infidels’ (kafir) point of view, YES. Actually, there is only one type of islam or muslim in the world, that is based on the Quran, the one and only. But you may have Anwar Ibrahim, Nik Aziz, Najib, amin tan, Mahathir, Sudin, Nazri Aziz, wajaperak, or zulkiflee. All these people are muslims or at least they profess themselves as muslims, but they are different people with different self interest and therefore some of them pronounce certain issues according to their best advantages. But all of them abide by the 5 rukun islam and the 6 rukun iman. But if you refer to opinion on political issues, then we may be different, then you can label Anwar Ibrahim and Nik Aziz as liberal or moderate muslims and amin tan as extremist muslim because I say the word ‘Allah’ should NOT be allowed to be used in the bible only on Malay translation copies. The word ‘Allah’ should be used in the bible in the English version in America or England first or simultaneously.

    amin tan

  28. Dear Tun,

    May I reply to Juks,

    Mr Juks,

    “Secondly, in regards to sodomy, have you not heard that DSAI has been cleared? The first trial, he was cleared. Second trial he has been cleared. So, if you have still made up your mind about him being guilty, arent you disrespecting our judicial system which clearly people in BN right now claim our judicial system is strong and independent. I have seen and read so many comments here which contradict themselves. Espc before and after the trial results. MAKE UP YOUR MIND. Which is it?”

    Clearly, Mr Juks, you have not read the posting I made regarding the verdict of acquittal. Just for your sake, I will repeat what I said earlier that the acquittal was on technical ground. The Honourable judge commented that Saiful was credible meaning anal intercourse did take place. I do not want to go deeper into this because I may be sued for rm100 millions on technical ground as well. Lawyer Karpal Singh is very good on ‘technical ground’. Don’t ever be mistaken ‘fool hardiness for bravery’.

    When you say our backyard stinks, don’t you mean you abhor the legally elected government of the day? I can see that you would like the promises of the Opposition which consists of islamist party blindly supporting Sodomy party and chauvinist party in the interest of their own GREED for POWER. The Opposition continues to make false and baseless claim of widespread corruption in the government and they concocted all sorts of defamation and evil stories about our Prime Minister taking bribes, really stupid concoction on the submarine episode. Innocent offshore students like you are gullible and start thumbing your chest calling for challenges. Mr Juks, I would lose to you because you are lucky to be able to study in England and see the world. Whereas I am an old man who studied only in the University of Malaya in 1970.

    amin tan

  29. Salam Tun.

    I wish to give some kind advice to a student called ‘juks’, so that he/she can concentrate on his/her tertiary studies in UK and passed with flying colours and come back to help Malaysia achieve the Wawasan 2020, even though many Malaysians prefer that he/she continue to stay there permanently.

    Dear ‘juks’ (whoever or whatever you are),

    Earlier when you commented on my entry (30/12/11 @5:38am, ‘Malaysia’s World Bank Loans’) I just sort of ‘brushed-off’ your thoughts considering you are only a student and need to learn much more about life & reality, especially many of your thoughts then were ‘out of tune’!
    However since you purposely & persistently engaged in submitting outrageous comments which will eventually lead you to become a racist & an ingrate, I’ll give some hard facts for you to ponder.

    Please read carefully the facts below, and after you’ve done that kindly spread the words around to those non-Bumi friends of yours that are very much at ease and very comfortable when they are referred as ingrates.

    During the early 1970s, less than 25,000 Bumi students studied in western countries, and about 99.7% of them were sponsored by the Malaysian government. In contrast there were more than 100,000 Malaysian Chinese that were studying overseas and >99.7% of them were family sponsored!
    You can imagine the economic and educational gap between the Bumis and the Chinese.

    Now if you consider the Chinese to comprise 26% of Malaysia’s 15 million population then as compared to the Bumis 62% majority population, and if on the average a Malaysian family has 6 household members, there were then 600,000 Chinese families, and the ratio of 1 in 62 Bumi family having a child studying overseas and on scholarship!

    The statistics were far worse and to the Bumi’s disadvantage before the May 13 ’69 racial riots.
    I strongly believe the Malaysian Chinese shudder at the thought of its recurrence.

    If you had signed a contract with Britain, you MUST fully abide to it and the same applies to the British.
    Even when the late Mao Tze Tong was at his peak, the mighty Communist China dared not take back tiny Hong Kong from Britain!

    Like ‘ecompute’ once said, “a contract is a contract” when referring & defending Singapura’s outrageous advantage in the lopsided water agreement with her nemesis called Malaysia!
    (‘ecompute’ even suggested instead to ask for compensation from China since most Malaysian rivers discharged water into a sea called South CHINA Sea!! Why allow the word China to the sea that derived its water from Malaysia! Kah kah kah!
    Anyway just forget about him, he’s a proven perpetual liar and hypocrite. He even challenged me to show my income tax returns just to emphasize to everyone that he’s paying big amount on taxes!!)

    You see ‘juks’, the so-called special Bumi quota that you keep babbling & blabbering is rigidly enshrined in the Malaysian Constitution.
    If you don’t agree to it than you should never claim yourself to be a Malaysian citizen, which is rightfully so since it was created purposely to allow the Bumis to catch-up economically & education-wise with the non-Bumis, and in return the non-Bumis can stay in this country!!!

    So now ‘juks’ tell those ingrates either to accept the Malaysian Law or surrender their citizenship!

    WE SHALL OVERCOME!
    WE CAN EASILY OVERCOME!

    Recently I submitted some comments on the Malaysian Constitution, clearly drafted to safeguard the rights of the various ethnicity that formed the Malaysian population. It was written in Bahasa Malaysia.

    Just in case you pretended never having read those comments, I’ll copy and paste part of that entry (25/12/11 @2:40am, ‘Mengenang Masa Dulu’) for your perusal:

    “…….Memandangkan kehidupan & ekonomi yang amat tersepit yang sedang dialami dan ditambah pula kebaikan serta kemuliaan budi pekerti orang2 Melayu, kaum pendatang tersebut telah berpusu2 datang tanpa henti, hinggakan selepas kita merdeka mereka masih lagi datang dan disambut dengan diberi KEWARGANEGARAAN percuma walaupun mereka tidak boleh bertutur sepatah pun perkataan Melayu!
    “Oleh kerana perjalanan menyeberangi lautan luas & bergelora dengan sehelai sepinggang hanya untuk meneruskan kehidupan dibumi Melayu ini setelah melalui kesengsaraan hidup dibumi asal, dan juga disamping mengharapkan sangat2 kesenangan yang dimimpikan, pendatang yang kelaparan ini terus membanting tulang berkerja dengan pulun dan rakus tanpa henti untuk mengubah nasib dan kehidupan mereka.
    “Disebabkan tiada saingan dari orang Melayu yang ketika itu tiada mempunyai apa2 tekanan menghadapi survival kerana berada ditanah tumpah darah nenek moyang, kejayaan pendatang2 tersebut memperbaiki ekonomi yang amat2 di kejar/harapkan mudah tercapai. Tambahan pula orang2 Inggeris yang merupakan Godfather kaum pendatang memberikan laluan mudah untuk mereka berjaya, dan seterusnya dapat mengurangkan risiko kebangkitan orang Melayu menentang mereka.
    “Tatkala dunia (terutama di Asia) sedang bergema dengan laungan menuntut kemerdekaan dari penjajah, pemimpin2 semua kaum di Tanah Melayu menyedari akan permasalahan besar iaitu disebabkan ketidaksamaan yang keterlaluan bidang ekonomi dan pembelajaran yang tidak menyebelahi orang2 Melayu, dan kewarganegaraan kaum pendatang.
    “Penyelesaian telah dipersetujui oleh setiap pemimpin yang mewakili kaum masing2, dan dirumuskan dengan 3 perkara terpenting yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan:
    1. Hak2 istimewa kaum Bumiputera.
    2. Islam ugama resmi, berserta dengan perkara2 yang telah digariskan.
    3. Semua pendatang diberi taraf kewarganegaraan.
    “Setiap yang mengakui diri mereka itu adalah rakyat Persekutuan Tanah Melayu/Malaysia, adalah WAJIB menghormati ketiga2 artikel diatas!!
    “Apabila usia negara meningkat, kaum Bumiputera telah ditentang untuk menuntut hak2 keistimewaan saperti termaktub dan ugama Islam telah cuba dipermainkan oleh mereka, sedangkan kewarganeraan percuma yang mereka perolehi dengan cara paling mudah tidak pernah dipertikai!
    “Penjajah Inggeris pun tidak sejahat dan sejijik perbuatan2 terkutuk oleh kaum keturunan pendatang biadap ini!
    “Kaum keturunan pendatang tidak berpuas hati dengan 70% kekayaan negara yang telah dijanjikan sebagai hak mereka!!! …….(sic)”

  30. Salam Tun.

    I wish to give some kind advice to a student called ‘juks’, so that he/she can concentrate on his/her tertiary studies in UK and passed with flying colours and come back to help Malaysia achieve the Wawasan 2020, even though many Malaysians prefer that he/she continue to stay there permanently.

    Dear Juks (whoever or whatever you are),

    Earlier when you commented on my entry (30/12/11 @5:38am, ‘Malaysia’s World Bank Loans’) I just sort of ‘brushed-off’ your thoughts considering you are only a student and need to learn much more about life & reality, especially many of your thoughts then were ‘out of tune’! However since you purposely & persistently engaged in submitting outrageous comments which will eventually lead you to become a racist & an ingrate, I’ll give some hard facts for you to ponder.

    Please read carefully the facts below, and after you’ve done that kindly spread the words around to those non-Bumi friends of yours that are very much at ease and very comfortable when they are referred as ingrates.

    During the early 1970s, less than 25,000 Bumi students studied in western countries, and about 99.7% of them were sponsored by the Malaysian government. In contrast there were more than 100,000 Malaysian Chinese that were studying overseas and >99.7% of them were family sponsored!
    You can imagine the economic and educational gap between the Bumis and the Chinese.

    Now if you consider the Chinese to comprise 26% of Malaysia’s 15 million population then as compared to the Bumis 62% majority population, and if on the average a Malaysian family has 6 household members, there were then 600,000 Chinese families with a ratio of 1 in 62 having a child studying overseas on scholarship!

    The statistics were far worse and to the Bumi’s disadvantage before the May 13 ’69 racial riots.
    I strongly believe the Malaysian Chinese shudder at the thought of its recurrence.

    If you had signed a contract with Britain, you MUST fully abide to it and the same applies to the British.
    Even when the late Mao Tze Tong was at his peak, the mighty Communist China dared not take back tiny Hong Kong from Britain!

    Like ‘ecompute’ once said, “a contract is a contract” when referring & defending Singapura’s outrageous advantage in the lopsided water agreement with her nemesis called Malaysia! (‘ecompute’ even suggested instead to ask for compensation from China since most Malaysian rivers discharged water into a sea called South CHINA Sea!! Why use the word China to the sea that derived its water from Malaysia! Kah kah kah!
    Anyway just forget about him, he’s a proven perpetual liar and hypocrite. He even challenged me to show my income tax returns just to emphasize to everyone that he’s paying big amount on taxes!!)

    You see ‘juks’, the so-called special Bumi quota that you keep babbling & blabbering is rigidly enshrined in the Malaysian Constitution.
    If you don’t agree to it than you should never claim yourself to be a Malaysian citizen, which is rightfully so since it was created purposely to allow the Bumis to catch-up economically & education-wise with the non-Bumis, and in return the non-Bumis can stay in this country!!!

    So now ‘juks’ tell those ingrates either to accept the Malaysian Law or surrender their citizenship!
    WE SHALL OVERCOME!
    WE CAN EASILY OVERCOME!

    Recently I submitted some comments on the Malaysian Constitution, clearly drafted to safeguard the rights of the various ethnicity that formed the Malaysian population. It was written in Bahasa Malaysia.

    Just in case you pretended never having read those comments, I’ll copy and paste part of that entry (25/12/11 @2:40am, ‘Mengenang Masa Dulu’) for your perusal:

    “…….Memandangkan kehidupan & ekonomi yang amat tersepit yang sedang dialami dan ditambah pula kebaikan serta kemuliaan budi pekerti orang2 Melayu, kaum pendatang tersebut telah berpusu2 datang tanpa henti, hinggakan selepas kita merdeka mereka masih lagi datang dan disambut dengan diberi KEWARGANEGARAAN percuma walaupun mereka tidak boleh bertutur sepatah pun perkataan Melayu!

    “Oleh kerana perjalanan menyeberangi lautan luas & bergelora dengan sehelai sepinggang hanya untuk meneruskan kehidupan dibumi Melayu ini setelah melalui kesengsaraan hidup dibumi asal, dan juga disamping mengharapkan sangat2 kesenangan yang dimimpikan, pendatang yang kelaparan ini terus membanting tulang berkerja dengan pulun dan rakus tanpa henti untuk mengubah nasib dan kehidupan mereka.

    “Disebabkan tiada saingan dari orang Melayu yang ketika itu tiada mempunyai apa2 tekanan menghadapi survival kerana berada ditanah tumpah darah nenek moyang, kejayaan pendatang2 tersebut memperbaiki ekonomi yang amat2 di kejar/harapkan mudah tercapai. Tambahan pula orang2 Inggeris yang merupakan Godfather kaum pendatang memberikan laluan mudah untuk mereka berjaya, dan seterusnya dapat mengurangkan risiko kebangkitan orang Melayu menentang mereka.

    “Tatkala dunia (terutama di Asia) sedang bergema dengan laungan menuntut kemerdekaan dari penjajah, pemimpin2 semua kaum di Tanah Melayu menyedari akan permasalahan besar iaitu disebabkan ketidaksamaan yang keterlaluan bidang ekonomi dan pembelajaran yang tidak menyebelahi orang2 Melayu, dan kewarganegaraan kaum pendatang.

    “Penyelesaian telah dipersetujui oleh setiap pemimpin yang mewakili kaum masing2, dan dirumuskan dengan 3 perkara terpenting yang termaktub dalam perlembagaan:

    1. Hak2 istimewa kaum Bumiputera.
    2. Islam ugama resmi, berserta dengan perkara2 yang telah digariskan.
    3. Semua pendatang diberi taraf kewarganegaraan.

    “Setiap yang mengakui diri mereka itu adalah rakyat Persekutuan Tanah Melayu/Malaysia, adalah WAJIB menghormati ketiga2 artikel diatas!!

    “Apabila usia negara meningkat, kaum Bumiputera telah ditentang untuk menuntut hak2 keistimewaan saperti termaktub dan ugama Islam telah cuba dipermainkan oleh mereka, sedangkan kewarganeraan percuma yang mereka perolehi dengan cara paling mudah tidak pernah dipertikai!

    “Penjajah Inggeris pun tidak sejahat dan sejijik perbuatan2 terkutuk oleh kaum keturunan pendatang biadap ini!

    “Kaum keturunan pendatang tidak berpuas hati dengan 70% kekayaan negara yang telah dijanjikan sebagai hak mereka!!! …….(sic)”

  31. Jamal,

    That is so true. Living in here in Britian, you can clearly see how people are so spoilt as this is the way of life that they are used to. Welfare and benefits here are massively being abused by people to substitute laziness. The thing is it is almost impossible now to radically change that system as people will rise and cause chaos. It is already happening as you austerity measures being put in place. Strikes and unions are not foreign here in the UK. Citizens here cant seem to understand that they have had it really good for the last 50 years or so. Work hours ends exactly at sharp 5. Doing any additional productivity rarely guarantees promotion or what not unlike asia.

  32. Tun

    How many countries have a leader who wishes Hari Raya Aidilfitri, Gong Xi Fa Cai, Happy Deepavali and a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to his/her fellow citizens in a year ?

    Your Chinese New Year Greetings to all Malaysians not only illustrate how Malaysia and her citizens come together and hold hands but also provide the necessary glue and ingredient to complete the whole picture of peace and harmony through humanity and multiculturalism as was practised through the centuries by the Royal Sultans and successive Governments. This is what is holding our country together always.

    Any country which can do this would have had overcome a lot of barriers or obstacles in the promotion of real multiculturalism and humanity.

  33. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,

    Sdr. Mubarakchan said,

    Many people on the Net wonder why I support you in the face of curses vulgar insults or whatever at my face. Some even conjectured that I was paid to do the job by you or even be decorated with a medal as a consequence. I retorted that I did not seek these things when I was 21 years old. Why should I do so that I am already 100 years old ?

    Salam kasih sayang to the Grand Old Man, we salute you!

    ‘Uncle’ Mubarakchan, you made us smile reading your above statement and the ONLY difference is, we had just reached the 59th floor… and we hope to reach your level to view the Vision 2020 at its peak… Insyaallah.

    WAWASAN 2020 BUKAN TITIK PENYUDAH BAGI JENERASI MENDATANG IA BERMULA

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN
    Ps. We wondered why our request to sdr. joashe to control the ‘F’ key and search for ‘Mubarakchan’ to know what real life is, was deemed ‘unfit’…???

  34. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,

    Sdr. Mubarakchan said,

    Many people on the Net wonder why I support you in the face of curses vulgar insults or whatever at my face. Some even conjectured that I was paid to do the job by you or even be decorated with a medal as a consequence. I retorted that I did not seek these things when I was 21 years old. Why should I do so that I am already 100 years old ?

    Salam kasih sayang to the Grand Old Man, we salute you!

    ‘Uncle’ Mubarakchan, you made us smile reading your above statement and the ONLY difference is, we had just reached the 59th floor… and we hope to reach your level to view the Vision 2020 at its peak… Insyaallah.

    WAWASAN 2020 BUKAN TITIK

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN
    Ps. We wondered why our request to sdr. joashe to control the ‘F’ key and search for ‘Mubarakchan’ to know what real life is, was deemed ‘unfit’…???

  35. Dear Tun,

    I am sure we all wish the people of Europe and North America all the best in finding workable solutions to their present financial problems.

    I believe the politicians and leaders in this countries know what the root problems are and perhaps also the solutions.

    However, it seems they do not see a way out of the side effects of they solutions that they need to take.

    There is the question of public dissatisfaction and it effect on such matter as grave as angry violent unrest to leaders staying in power to see the solution thru, i.e. if the proposed ever gets implemented in the first instance.

    An entity such as a person, company or country that is in deep debt without a viable source of income to service these debts need nothing less than real sacrifices. A drastic change in life style and spending habits.

    And Credit Counsellor will tell you that. He will tell you first to work out a debt repayment plan with the available income at our disposal. That will entail downgrading our dwellings, eating at home (no eating out), selling the car and taking the public transport, etc..

    You have got to bite the bullet and get on with it.

    Now North America is instead looking at increasing their income (earning) in the hope that it will be large enough the be used to repay the debts, without having to bite the bullet.

    In Europe some are biting the bullet and some try to go the North American way.

    The problem with the North American way is that in order to earn more they need to invest more. Which means they need to take up more debts. It will be a never ending vicious cycle.

    China and Japan the biggest lenders to North America have no choice. They are playing along as long as they can. Essentially to protect their capital from devaluing any further (relative to the US Dollar) as their investments (loans) are in this currency as US Treasury Bills and Bonds.

    If China and Japan are not careful they will be sucked in by the North American debacle.

    For those countries bitting the bullet, their people are more resilient and we all may think. Just like Indonesia, Thailand and the other Asian Tigers during the financial crisis or should I say the currency attacks.

    Yes there may be politican change ( as we have seen in Italy..having a non democratically elected goverment). But that’s life as they say and they should get on with it. The longer they try to delay the natural process the worst it can get.

    All said they will be blind to the real root cause of the problem. And once they get out of it they will return to the greedy ways again. They will say it just the natural economic or financial cycle going full circle.

    But do we really need this unnecessary demeaning, tragic, and de-human-ing cycle. Especially, when we can have a more socially sensitive, enlightening and uplifting financial system.

    Lets rid our financial system of any element of gambling (speculations), promising thing we can’t keep everytime – all the time (bank interest), rich centric (people with more money/asset getting the investment money while the poor are taken advantage off) and lending what we do not own.

    Thanks Tun.

  36. Western Elites have sold their soul. As for their ordinary men would be sold down the river before they know it.

  37. Amin,

    Please kindly direct me to any anti Islamic or anti Malaysia or anti Malay messages that I have written previously. You have clearly made up your mind about the world and people jumping to your own conclusions. If I do come off as any of those, I do apologize. My best friends are Malays for christ sake. And why is it that we cant have open conversations without having people lable us with all sorts of prejudgements. Amin, if you can come out and clearly say that I have no right to voice out or criticize then you are clearly deluded. As a supporter of Tun himself, wasnt Tun in the same position as well previously criticizing and voicing out his personal opinions on Abdullah Badawi? Tun himself was then labelled all sorts such as Anti this and that. And please, if you can call some anti something, I can label you a Muslim extremist and nut as well based on messages that I have read. It is not a nice feeling is it, espc not even knowing anyone of us personally.

  38. Dear Amin Tan,

    You have clearly made up your mind about everything. I thought we were here to exchange ideas and thoughts on different things. Isnt it after all about trying to exchange views but not JUDGE. You claim there is only one way to looking at the world. I am saying travel. See the world. We all practice good of different religions and cultures in a way.

    Secondly, in regards to sodomy, have you not heard that DSAI has been cleared? The first trial, he was cleared. Second trial he has been cleared. So, if you have still made up your mind about him being guilty, arent you disrespecting our judicial system which clearly people in BN right now claim our judicial system is strong and independent. I have seen and read so many comments here which contradict themselves. Espc before and after the trial results. MAKE UP YOUR MIND. Which is it?

    Thirdly, I love my country deeply. Ask anyone who have left their country abroad. Patriotism somehow strengthen itself when you are abroad. However, I am also practical and will not hide the stench in our backyard.

    Lastly, what is so wrong with western society? I have said before. Lets learn good from them. AND AGAIN, dont take this out of context. I said we can learn good from western culture as well. Western culture in itself is not all bad. There is good in every culture be it asian or western.
    Plus, why are you jumping to conclusions that the young today worship western culture? You clearly see the world very one sided and refuse to be open about other theories. I have given an explanation as to why money was essential to chinese. I have yet to hear from you and instead to reinforce your idea on chinese religion, you go on saying that chinese people are now subscribing to western theories. FYI, there is nothing wrong about western culture as long as you preserve yours. I will always hold Malaysia as my homeland. But for now, there is little to be proud of with the state of the country.

    Just curious, for people who support BN only, PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND READ SOME OPPOSITION BLOGS> I do the same for myself with both sides. I am not interested or affliated to any political side. I am more interested in the facts. But again, politics is like religion and if you cant see the other side, then so be it.

  39. Tun

    I have been following some political blogs for awhile.

    For a leader of a country, it is of utmost importance for him/her to lead and think out of the box with conviction which befits his/her position. Every country needs leaders who can think. Many souls are dependant on a single decision, rightly or wrongly.

    Yes ! Meritocracy is good and must not be over-cooked like some other countries when inaction or wrong action happened to the pyramid with the smartest fellow at the apex in crisis. I have also observed that some leaders used subterfuge to undermine others or countries as part of a foreign policy. The weapon which is commonly used is money. And sometimes, astute businessmen are recruited into the ranks to undermine societies or for inside information by seduction with money.

    Now with reference to our beloved Malaysia, we have had peace and harmony for many years since Merdeka in 1957. The British half-expected us to fail like some of their charges who also attained freedom because the participants of different communities in this great endeavour were so raw and green. What they knew was money and money in a racially compartmentalised society. They knew nothing about the business of running a Government and its business of governing. If I may recall, there were hardly any Malay in the towns apart from the civil servants and the drivers in 1957.

    Fortunately, our beloved country had the leadership of the Tunku, Tun Abdul Razak, Tun Hussein Onn and yourself who understood the meaning of leadership and could think out of the box in the general interest of all our citizens. There was no doubt that mistakes would be made in time. It is from these lessons that Malaysia should march forward !

    Tun Abdul Razak was able to uplift the political socio-economic level of Malaysia to a higher plane and you followed to further strengthen the country to even a higher level of achievements but there were limitations.

    As you, Tun, were able to think out of the box and had commonsense, the people you talk to were actually in the basement when you thought you were talking to them on the 88th floor of the Petronas Towers. In other words, their minds were far away thinking about something else while you spoke to them. I observed that you always carried a note-book. But your aides did not.

    And my observation was that actions which should not be done were carried out by your closest aides after you had given out your orders. These aides should have warned you that the results would have been negative with dire consequences. They did not. It was imperative for them to warn and consult before proceeding with further action. Hence, the political conundrum today which is really not of your making. You were a Prime Minister and should not be responsible for the nitty-gritty or the mundane job of doing things for your aides. All these fellows kept quiet during the 22 years of your Administration and now some say you were a ‘ dictator ‘ !

    As no one to this day has come forth to explain the truth, I seek your permission to do so.

    Many people on the Net wonder why I support you in the face of curses vulgar insults or whatever at my face. Some even conjectured that I was paid to do the job by you or even be decorated with a medal as a consequence. I retorted that I did not seek these things when I was 21 years old. Why should I do so that I am already 100 years old ?

    My job is quite straightforward. I based my comments only on facts.

    The truth is that I have always been a nationalist since 1954, a long time ago. My loyalty has always been to the Yang di Pertuan Agong and my country, Malaysia. I am not accustomed to paying lip-service for gain or favour or back-stab others. My curiosity was aroused by an event which happened in my family in October 1951.

    Now that my position is clear and I am not 21 years old anymore, I say again in the face of your detractors that you Tun, did not :-

    1. Use money as an instrument of foreign policy to kill, maim or harm
    the innocents. You have no blood on your hands.

    2. Lose US$ 108 Billions of your citizens Trust money on Wall Street in a
    jiffy in 2008.

    And

    1. You safe-guarded the sovereignty, national interest and self-esteem
    of our beloved country, Malaysia. And with this intent, we have
    peace and harmony, hopefully, for all time. This is the most
    important of all !

    2. You practised humanity and multiculturalism like the Royal Sultans
    of yore and successive Governments through the decades.

    3. You did not line your pockets, either legally or illegally.

    4. You did not pay me a single sen or give me a medal in my
    life-time !

    Let your commonsense comments, Tun, continue to flourish for the good of our beloved country, Malaysia, and its citizens.

    Life is Good !

  40. Dear Tun,

    What Tun has described about the Western economy, socio-polititical scenario in indeed true. The Western society is in the stage of social decay and entering the stage where it is in imminent collapse, like the fall of the Great Roman Empire.

    To Juks, AndreyTay, Menujukehadapan and their supporters in PAS and PKR who are clearly anti Malay, anti national, anti Malaysia, anti islam or continue to criticize their own country, whether in this very liberal, uncensored blog or in interviews with BBC, your praise or idol worshipping (‘taksub’) of everything Western is really misplaced, misguided and will eventually lead you to failure and your own destruction. Some of you even defend sodomy, kinky sexual intercourse via anus which is against the law in Malaysia. Sodomy is not only forbidden in the Quran and Bible, it is offensive and against God. How can you continue to support such personality. The notable supporters of sodomites are the chief clergy of PAS and DAP leadership due to political vested interest and advantages and not due to truth and sincerity. God created Heaven and Hell. Whichever path you choose to tread, it is your choice and your destiny. I feel sad for young people like Jukes and AndreyTay who have gone to study and stay in Western society and turn around and spit at Malaysia and islam, the religion of the Malays. It is history repeating itself. Chinese people in Malaysia are the offsprings of migrant Chinese from China. Now you guys are the migrants in England and Australia. The whites in Australia say ‘Two Wongs don’t make a White. They multiply like flies’. Some of the derogatory remarks against their own Chinese population. The Malays say ‘Biar hujan batu di negeri sendiri dan hujan emas di negeri orang, lebih baik negeri sendiri.’ The Whites in England do not welcome Asians to work or stay there. They prefer the Whites from Eastern Europe even though these people do not speak English.

    amin tan

  41. A very good article sir but the West with hundreds of years of ego, they will not listen and continue to be ignorant.

  42. Askm Tun. Semuga Allah SWT bersama kita semua.

    That’s the simplest explanation on economy theory as one can get to understand. The best route is to go back to basic principle of economy: CREATION OF NATIONAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES WITH THE LEAST LEAKAGES. Let us look at an example in housing developement:
    Objective – House ownership for every family.
    1. A developer has to carry-out a housing developement. Need additional capital for bridging finance & subsequently project financing (+++$) from a BANK.
    2. Developer engages the professionals including the contractors to start the project. Pay for the services ( -$$$ )
    3. Developer market those housing units to public ( and this is important point – the public NEED to take the loan as much as possible, from the SAME bank that finance the developer. By this way the bank will make sure that the houses are completed and the prospective buyers have the capacity to pay back the loan).
    4. The developer will have sales revenue to start paying back the bank loan. ( the circle is complete. Bank issue loan to developer, developer get revenue from the sales to house buyers who in turn get the money from the bank loan, Bank get back their money AND economic activity has been created).
    5. The situation can be improved if EPF is the BANK that finance the project. Public contribute to the EPF fund, and can withdraw the part of the fund from personal contribution for the purchase of the house unit from the developer. Developer pay back the loan taken from EPF. EPF recovers back the fund issued to the developer. No leakages with economic activites achieved.

    Only my 2-sen view of how economic policy and decision should be adopted. Of course, in reality it is more complicated and this is where the experts should come in.

    May Allah SWT show us the right way.

  43. Salam,

    It is very obvious now, as it always has been that your logic and theories are not relevant in real life.

  44. Tun

    Your observations on the political socio-economic performance of America and Europe are factual and on par with other commentaries on the same topic. Robert Peston, the BBC commentator suggested that the British neglected their manufacturing industries and focussed on their City financial services from the early 1980s onwards which resulted in their present dilemma.

    Major brand names like Jaguar, Rolls Royce, Bentley, and other manufacturing concerns could only lived up to their traditional heritage after being taken over by more serious foreign business concerns. The industrial heartland of Britain in the North and the famed ship-building yards, Harland & Wolff, in Northern Ireland have all disappeared. And many many more have been lost to history.

    I was in Munich in 1956 and even eleven years after the end of World War II in Europe, I could see the Germans quietly cycling to work at 6
    a.m. in the morning. The city was still flattened from the carpet bombing of the Allied bombers. During this same period, the shops in London did not open until 9 a.m. Because of their hardwork, the Germans began to build their socio-economic structure to protect their workers very early on. By the 1970s, the Turkish people were in great demand as workers in West Germany. The German workers eased into periods of longer holidays spiced with additional attractions like holidays in spa hotels which gave rise to the new industry of spa hotels around the world. However, the Germans managed to keep up with the pace of a momentous world with new or improved manufacturing methods or inventions to increase productivity and revenue together with a sound Government policy on inflation and economic growth. They are still fearful of the hyperinflation of the 1920s which produced the Third Reich and Hitler.
    With a solid political and socio-economic background, Germany stands tall in the European Union today.

    In the 1950s, Britain was still in an austerity mode, lacking in life-style and luxury goods. The people had no money to speak of. London had the greatest concentration of the ladies of the street until a law was passed in 1956 to bring matters to an even keel after the excesses of a horrible war, the World War II.
    The first shipload of West Indians arrived in Britain 1954 by the returning banana boats from the West Indies to fill the lowest rank of workers e.g. street sweepers, etc.
    By the 1960s, the Beatles arrived and since then, Britain never looked back and the whole political socio-economic structure ballooned and more so with the ‘ Big Bang’ in the financial world in the early 1980s.
    As you mentioned, Tun, the whole scenario mentioned above was compounded by spending on armaments in the face of the Cold War. And together with America, Britain continued with her arms expenditure since 1990 which remained as a status quo without a review of their expenditure after ‘ winning ‘ the Cold War.
    The British were promised most of the free social benefits like the National Health Service, Education etc arising out of the need of support for the War effort and the weakened condition of the general populace. The Labour Party under the leadership of Clement Attlee came into power and began building the all-embracing socio-economic structure which lasts to this day – and this costs a lot of money. However, Margaret Thatcher tried to privatize some of the nationalized businesses but this was not enough to counter balance the long term effects of the ‘Big Bang’ as we can see the results unfolding before our eyes at the present time.
    And surprisingly, the Times of London, reported in 2006 that Britain had just completed her last payment for the Lend-Lease Program of World War II, to the United States and Canada – a good 61 years after the War.

    In every country in the European Union, similar scenarios were established after the World War II which was over 60 years ago – a thick overlay of free socio-economic goodies for the populace. The politicians promised the electorate all sorts of panaceas or quick fixes for socio-economic ills but were not there to refine or follow these through which culminated in the disastrous results now appearimg before us. There were not enough productive efforts in manufacturing to produce revenue for the Government coffers to counter the rise of the determined efforts of the emerging countries of the East. The previous competitive edge was lost. The benefits of globalization and free trade appeared to have benefited these countries the most after the Cold War. These have no choice but to produce more and more to survive and support their huge populations.

    Hence, your observations and suggestions are sound and of merit.

  45. What is taking place financially in Europe today will also happen in Malaysia, all thanks to Dato Najib’s high-income policy.

    As the public sector’s income is raised the prices of goods will also rise. Unfortunately the majority of Malaysian are not part of the civil service.

    As the prices of goods continue going up and up and up and up, the majority of Malaysians will suffer and consequently they will say to themselves “Enough is enough” and finally decide to remove UMNO from power. Pakatan Rakyat need to be prepared taking over governing Malaysia.

    Azlan
    KL

  46. Wow John of Alibabamahathir…..where did you get the facts or err myth? Let’s be fair to yourself first. Show the evidence and proof. OK? If you do not have them, then do not waste our precious time here. BTW, why on earth do you need to associate with Tun M’s name? Alibabajohn is better. Be proud of your own name, man….

  47. Later part of article sounds like Malaysia.

    1,500 million ringgit for a littoral boat when filipina pay 30 million for a similar function boat. Malaysia want to fight with who using the six units of boats that will cost 9 billion ringgit?

    Thank you.
    John

  48. Salam Tun,

    Malaysia have so much Raw Material, it can make us live very well

    But People’s mind constricted by “We don’t have the Money”

    We have the Resources, and Scientific minds but “We don’t have the Money”

    “We don’t have the Money” lingers in the mind while watching an owner-less Papaya tree bearing fruits without costing any money.

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