LETTER TO ALFRED WILLNER

Dear Alfred ([email protected])

1. Thank you for your comments on my speech given at a forum held in Kuala Lumpur on 19th November 2012 themed “9/11 Seeking the Truth.” Apart from myself three others spoke, each with his own reasons for doubting that the attack against the twin World Trade Towers of New York was the work of Arab terrorists. Their talk was illustrated with video clips of the attack and the subsequent collapse of not just the two towers but of a third tower next to them which was not hit by any aircraft or by the collapsing towers.

2. One pointed out that upon being informed that the towers were hit by airplanes, Bush did nothing for almost 10 minutes. Rumsfeld who was in the Pentagon building was told that a commercial aircraft was headed for the Pentagon after the twin towers were hit. No commercial aircrafts or other aircrafts were supposed to fly towards the Pentagon. It was 50 miles from the building when Rumsfeld was told. But he did nothing. No fighter aircrafts were scrambled to stop the oncoming aircrafts. And the aircraft was said to crash into the Pentagon.

3. Another speaker illustrated his talk with video clips showing how the towers collapsed straight down as characteristic of planned demolition. There were shots of the fire brigade personnel describing the collapse and gesturing with their hands that the building came down with loud boom, boom, boom, boom, boom ….. at each stage. Other witnesses described the collapse in the same way.

4. An association of architects and engineers declared that the collapse was typical of a planned demolition. They pointed out that buildings do not collapse due to fire. The steel frames would not come down with the building unless they were destroyed by explosives, as happens with demolitions.

5. The video also showed melted steel pouring down the sides as the buildings came down. This can only happen if a certain chemical which burn with very high temperatures, higher than the melting point of steel, ignites during the fire. Traces of this chemical was found at the site later on.

6. But the most telling feature is the similar straight-down collapse of a third building next to the twin towers. This building was not hit by any aircraft or by the two towers crashing against it as they collapse.

7. The collapse of this building also showed the features of a demolition. No other buildings close by were damaged in any way.

8. Normally when a plane, especially a commercial plane crashes, the black box would be among the debris. No black boxes were found. Presumably they were melted by the intense heat.

9. Yet a passport was found in the debris, revealing the name of the “terrorist.” Isn’t it strange that intense heat which could melt steel could not burn the paper of the passport. There was no report of other passports being found.

10. All these things pointed out by the speakers indicate a very sophisticated operation.

11. A few years back a group of Americans came to Malaysia bringing with them videos of the 9/11 attacks against the twin towers, the Pentagon and the crash of the fourth plane in Pennsylvania. One of them was the janitor who was declared a hero by the US Government for saving the lives of 200 people in the lower floors.

12. He told the Government enquiry commission preparing a report on the 9/11 crash about the explosions as the building came down. His evidence, he said was not included in the report.

13. A society of engineers made public their doubts that the collapse of the towers was due to the plane crash and fire. They believed that it was due to demolition.

14. If you are interested enough you can access a whole lot of websites on “9/11 truth” and you will find that I am not the only one to question the veracity of the official version of 9/11.

15. Please keep an open mind when you read these websites. Please also remember that the truth is important because this incident resulted in Afghanistan and Iraq being invaded, hundreds of thousands being killed, the Muslims being demonised and discriminated against. Surely if the Muslim terrorists are not responsible, the Muslims do not deserve to be condemned, humiliated and killed.

18 thoughts on “LETTER TO ALFRED WILLNER”

  1. Askm Tun. Wishing that Allah SWT continue to bless us all good health and peace of mind.

    The main culprit and the greatest evil with master in deceitful acts are MOSSAD, hand-in-hand with CIA. Let us not waste money, energy and time to establish proof for their guilt.
    Do not take lightly about TV program such as “Mission Impossible” that actually are dress rehearsals for the actual planned activities.

    We already have some indication as how much annual budget the respective governments have allocated for their respective “licensed” terrorist organisation to carry their subversive activities especially in countries that they have classified as their national threat. Even if you have done nothing but just to keep what the natural resources you have. They can still consider you as their national threat if you do not comply to their greed/need for the resourses such as oil. As simple as that. After all, there is a clear mention in Quran that Allah SWT warned the prophet PBUH, ” oh Muhamad, the enemy of Islam will not let you alone until you follow their way of life “.
    Therefore, let us apply the principle of USA law.. they are guilty until they prove otherwise…

  2. i believe future generation will continue re-investigate this mystery…

    cuma kesian kat generasi US yang seterusnya…

  3. SEPT 11 is an EMERGENCY CALL FOR UNITED STATES 911

    THE WORLD JUST LISTEN TO U.S WORDS
    BE IT THE WORDS OF LIES
    UNITED STATES LIE TO MANY

    IRAQ WAS ACCUSED OF WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION
    WAS BRUTALLY PUNISHED WITHOUT TRIAL
    PROVEN NOT GUILTY BUT WAS SENTENCED

    SO WHAT IS SEPT 11 ?
    DEFINITELY ANOTHER BIG LIE OF U.S BESIDES THE SO MANY
    IT,S JUST AN BLUNT ACCUSATION FOR A REASON

    WE KNOW , U.S ITSELF KNOWS, THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS

    YET WE CONSENTED IT TO HAPPEN
    WE ARE ABETTING TO THESE CRIMES

    THE WORLD CONSENTED UNITED STATES TO WALK AWAY
    WITH THESE BIG CRIMES

    WORLD WILL ALLOW UNITED STATES TO DO MORE

    THOSE WE THAT KNOWS IS VERY WRONG
    WE MUST STAND TOGETHER
    A COMMUNITEE MUST BE SET UP
    TO BRING JUSTICE TO THIS WORLD
    VIA UNITED NATIONS
    THROUGH INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE
    REPRESENTED BY WORLD REPRESENTATIONS
    NOT JUST BY WESTERNS

    WE ARE ABETTING TO THESE EVIL HUMAN CRIMES
    IF WE KNOWS THESE ARE NOT RIGHT

    WE ARE NOT ACCUSING
    WE HAVE A DUTY TO PUT MATTERS RIGHT
    IT,S A DUTY OF ALL HUMAN

    HUMAN SPENDS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CELEBRATES
    OLYMPICS , WORLD FOOTBALL CUPS ,AMERICAN IDOLS
    ASIANS IDOLS , GREEN PEACE, ETC ETC

    IT,S A BIG DISGRACE
    TO HUMAN CIVILIZATIONS
    IF WE ALLOW THESE TO FLOW WITHOUT JUSTICE

    WE ARE ABETTING TO THESE
    INHUMAN INTERNATIONAL CRIMES
    IF SUCH
    WE SHOULD ALLOW THE ANIMAL KINGDOM
    RUNS THE UNIVERSE

  4. salam Tun Yg Dihormati ,
    saya ingin tanya Tun satu soalan .
    * di negara ini Malaysia , Tun pentingkan
    1) Bangsa atau
    2) Agama atau
    3) Negara ?
    Thank You !

  5. Tun

    Thanks to you for your reply to Alfred Willner’s comment. As always you are conscious and focussed on Malaysia’s sovereignty, national interest and self-esteem which form the bulwark to our beloved country’s peace, harmony and prosperity concerning the safeguards of our national security.

    At this momentous juncture of our beloved’s country’s long history of peace, harmony and prosperity, I wish to convey my best wishes for the UMNO General Assemby to be held this week. It is mind-boggling that the nascent party was formed as long ago as 1946 or thereabouts and is on par with the major political parties of the World unlike the Opposition which has no record. All Malaysians stand tall, proud and strong.

    Since the Opposition has been at the fore-front of the street rallies etc, the amplification of money and sex scandals, for a Singapore Lee Kuan Yew one-man more than 50 year-rule type of governance and meritocracy and what the BN as led by the UMNO is assumed to be white but was twisted or spun into black, let all Malaysians at the present time before the General Elections scrutinize what the future might bring through the coloured glasses of the detractors and the attempts to brainwash us all so much so that the ill-informed’s brains and minds are washed by the constant feeding of disinformation thus.

    Please study the following facts in the interest of yourself, your family, your children and your friends within the context of the past, present and future.

    1. All Malaysians should consider whether the Opposition has a leader who fits into the 3 Golden Attributes to be a Prime Minister :-

    i. Commonsense – Civil behaviour holds sway
    ii. The Ability to Think out of the Box – No record
    iii. Compassion – It is alleged some people might end up in jail.

    2. The street rallies in which even the well-endowed and well-fed Malaysian Chinese who are treated better than in Singapore, Hong Kong , Taiwan, China and the whole wide world, ran around the streets like dungus. Except for Kuala Lumpur and Hong Kong, no Chinaman run around the streets for the causes of others which have nothing to do with them e.g. to run around the streets in the tussle for the Prime Ministership of Malaysia.

    Hey ! Malaysia has a Constitution since 1957 !! And our Judiciary is competent as always to obviate the need for the rough stuff !
    Such rallies are for photogenic shots for the financiers and to impress the ordinary folk of the might of the Opposition ! But there are 27 Million citizens of our beloved country !

    3. What is the Foreign Policy of the Opposition, towards the East and the West ?

    Malaysia has become the top geo-political and strategic nation because it is the Mother of all choke points as the littoral State which abuts the Straits of Malacca and the South China Sea with the Peninsula, Sabah and Sarawak. More and more sea traffic will pass through her territorial waters. The self-proclaimed Straits of Singapore choke point is peanuts !

    The problem on the Opposition’s Foreign Policy is not only unclear but maybe non-existence because nobody thought about or if they did, they are not telling. The stand of PAS is unclear. PKR has friends in the West. DAP is definitely pro-Lee Kuan Yew Singapore and is alleged to have the friends of Singapore as their friends as well.

    With this hodge-podge of friends and crypto-friends, the Opposition’s Foreign Policy for Malaysia ( if any ) must be suspect and maybe biased in view of the phantom interest and behind the scenes support of the Opposition.

    This will bring our beloved country into a lot of suffering and trouble.

    But the BN as led by the UMNO is aware that the our politics has always been balanced on a knife’s edge. But the worse did not happen thanks to the Royal Sultans, the UMNO and the early Malay patriots since 1946.

    However, the BN as led by the UMNO has been friends to all and the BN Government has brought all of us Malaysians a long period of peace, harmony and prosperity despite some interference in our domestic politics by jealous types. Vide. NSTP controlled by Singapore cadre not too long ago and our Nation’s treasure chests were opened for close scrutiny by outsiders. A trillion ringgits flowed out after 2003 !

    It is to this end that the BN as led by the UMNO is by far better than the Opposition in the conduct of diplomacy towards all nations as events are hotting up in the East and the rise of Islam in the West.

    4. Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule of Singapore and beyond.

    There is hardly a day in which the awesome and fearsome Lee Kuan Yew’s fantasy tropical island’s derring dos were not touted by the Opposition.

    Here is a list of facts concerning his one-man over 50 year rule of Singapore ( not a squeak from the West about Singapore Spring ) and some cogent questions which must be asked :-

    i. Money was used as an instrument of foreign policy which resulted in the killing, maiming and injuring innocent men, women and children to this day. Prime Ministers of friendly countries were sent into orbit like the Flying Dutchman. Malaysia under the BN as led by the UMNO has no blood on her hands. Vide. ASEAN Regional News.

    Is the Opposition going to do the same to friendly countries ?

    ii. The 2-child family Policy of Singapore, 1970s-1980s, reduced the replacement birth-rate to 1.2 and forced the importation of rich Chinamen and Indiamen to fill the void – the elitist void. The mass of manual workers are not counted. Is this permanent with the glass half full and the annual pronouncements of more and more millionaires produced ? Clause 16 of the United Nations Universal Charter of Human Rights may have been contravened.

    Is this going to be imposed on us by the Opposition like Singapore ?

    iii. The much-touted meritocratic pyramid of Singapore with the smartest fellow at the top lost US$108 Billions ( RM250 Billions ) of her citizens Trust money in a jiffy in October 2008 on Wall Street. This horrific loss was during Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule. In 2010, a much revised book ‘ Malaysian Maverick ‘ was written by a hired hack which claimed that Malaysia lost RM100 Billions over 22 years. But to put this correctly, the RM100 Billions were lost over a period dating from 1957 and may be put down to development expenditure unlike Singapore which put Trust money on speculation. We must compare chalk with chalk and cheese with cheese. Vide. Channelnewsasia. Lee Kuan Yew. November 2008. All Singaporean Blogs. Financial Times. London. Gillian Tett ‘ Singapore’s Harvard Investment Model ‘ April 2010. How can a soverign country surrenders its obligations to the riff-raff of Wall Street ?
    The Star. Seah Chiang Nee Column. Saturdays.

    Is the Opposition going to set-up an exclusive meritocratic pyramid with the smartest fellow on top and follow Singapore’s one-man rule for over 50 years ?

    iv. Singapore is the world’s most emotionless country as reported by the famous Gallup poll of the United States. Vide. TR Emeritus and
    ‘ Has Singapore become an Orwellian state with the world’s most emotionless people ‘? by Jentrified Citizen. Please study all the comments therein !

    In fact, Singapore was turned into an Orwellian state as early as 1972, not as at present as reported by Jentrified Citizen. That was when the super super computers were put into place. Malaysia’s Immigration was only partially computerised by the year 2000 ! Singapore’s citizens now exist in an Orwellian environment ruled by ultra-capitalist philosophy and methods. Eventually, the choice for Singapore is :

    a. To become the 53rd State of the United States Union.
    b. To be a colony of United Kingdom like the Caymans.
    c. To merge with Malaysia.
    d. To remain status quo.

    By aping Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule, the Opposition will put all Malaysians into an Orwellian strait-jacket.

    v. A perfunctory Judiciary as has been reported in the media. Vide. Admiral Canaris was demeaned by throwing him naked in a cell by Hitler and hung naked with piano wires. The unfortunate and fortunate Dr Chee. The unfortunate and unfortunate Tan Koon Swan. Woffles Wu. Shaw. etc. etc.

    By comparing Singapore and Malaysia all the time, is the Opposition going to follow the Judiciary System as has been set up in Singapore even though Malaysia’s Judiciary is fair and competent ?

    vi. Singapore did not practise humanity and multiculturalism. Vide. Channelnewsasia. The Curry Smell Tribunal. 2011. The Toilet Fights. 2012.

    Is the policies of the Opposition going to force the citizens not to practise humanity and multiculturalism which were in place in Malaysia now and since ancient times ?

    vii. Is the philosophy and the methods of ULTRA-CAPITALISM as practised by Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule in Singapore on the 99% of the population going to be adopted by the Opposition ?

    viii. Many more Singaporean warts !

    Even though there are many warts which have erupted in Singapore in the last few years of Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule, all Malaysians have to seriously consider one of the Opposition’s main tenets to gain power to rule us is that of simply touting the greatness and virtues of both Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore at the present time and keeping a blind eye to the titanic faults and mistakes of Lee Kuan Yew’s one-man over 50 year rule of Singapore.

    Obviously, the Opposition tried to climb onto to the partially successful brainwashing of Malaysians especially the Malaysian Chinese by Lee Kuan Yew.

    Time has already shown that Lee Kuan Yew has failed. And credit to him is that he tried his utmost.

    Vote BN. All Malaysians and join hands. Until the Opposition can prove that Malaysia under BN as led by the UMNO is not a runaway success compared with floundering Singapore, do not believe them.

    Do not be hoodwinked by easy talk and complacency. The barbarians whoever they are, are at the gates ! Vide. TR Emeritus ‘ Singapore is the world’s most emotionless country.’ and all Singaporean comments pertaining to it !

  6. A R E P L Y T O “B O T A K”

    You say

    “IF ITS PROVEN OF THEIR INNOCENTS WE ACCEPT IT AND MUST COMPENSATE THEM FOR DEFAMATION”

    but the other way around is really how it should and does work in all civilized countries of the world, namely:

    YOU ARE CONSIDERED INNOCENT UNTIL FOUND GUILTY – THE PLAINTIFF HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF.

    Your guilt has to be proven, not your innocence. Presumption of innocence prevails and this is the right way, otherwise we’ll all be subjects to dictatorships of PUBLIC OPINIONS which, as well all know, is often mistaken because it is mostly led by ideologies, which many often within themselves be erroneous but only found so after a long and painful process of analysis and recognition.

    To be of the OPINION that someone is guilty is thus not good enough. We must prove the guilt.

    Whom we “presume guilty” may have done things he may have thought were right. If he was wrong in his thinkings and doings Courts of Justice are established to determine just that, to judge and to punish if need be. This is supposed to prevent the innocent from having to suffer erroneous or malicious prosecution.

    All of us being human, mistakes are some times made on the way of such proceedings and then the systems and institutions are in place and stand well beyond Politicians and Judges in power at any given time and innocents who were prosecuted erroneously will be COMPENSATED and indemnified.

    This is the established way and it works as well as any system invented and operated by Humans can work. Since there are inevitably mistakes being made, Judgments will also forever be disputed by the people but at least there is a frame and a system for us all to follow.

    We are all innocent until found guilty!

  7. Salam Tun,

    to Dtan,

    you sound like sour grapes and refuse to believe in the overwhelming evidences relating to the 9/11 conspiracy.
    I feel you are a devious person with ulterior motives just trying to belittle Muslims.

    PAShit

  8. UMNO GOVT HAS TO DO 1 STEP AT A TIME
    TO SHOW A GOOD EXAMPLE TO THE MUSLIM WORLD

    UMNO MUST UNITE PAS, PAKATAN RAKYAT
    AT ANY COST
    TO BE TOGETHER IS TO BE STRONG
    THAT,S WHAT DAP & PAP HAS IN THEIR AGENDA
    THEY WANT US DIVIDED
    IT,S NOT THEY SUPPORT ANWAR & MR. NIK

    THE ECONOMIC INVASION THAT
    HAS TAKEN PLACE IN JOHOR
    VAST MALAY LAND HAS BE SOLD TO FOREIGNER
    THESE MUST BE PUT A STOP

    JOASHE IS NOT AT EASE OF THIS MASSAGE
    HE THINKS HIS SMART
    THAT IS HIS THINKING

  9. Assalamualaikum Tun,

    I would like to refer to Alfred and all skeptics about what really happened on 9/11.

    The investigation is about finding out the truth. Therefore, the outcome can go both ways.

    The West might be right that the attack was done by Arabs. If it was done by Arabs, it still does not justify the killing of hundreds of innocent Afghanistan and Iraqi people.

    On the other hand, if it is found that it really is done by the US government themselves led by Bush, then think of what it all means :

    1) That the US government have created a false 9/11 tragedy to scare the US people as a pretense to attack Afghanistan and Iraq.

    2) That Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was not the real mastermind behind 9/11 attacks.

    3)That the real mastermind was actually the US government led by Bush.

    4) That the real terrorist have been the US government themselves led by Bush.

    5) That the US government killed their own people in the 9/11 attacks so that the US can attack Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Osama bin Laden was executed without a fair trial. As always, the Western concept of “innocent until proven guilty” does not apply here. Osama was proven guilty the day the 9/11 attacks happened.

    Maybe if he was captured and put on trial, the truth about the 9/11 being staged might come out. Therefore, it is better to kill him and case close on the 9/11 attacks.

    Anyways, I await eagerly on the outcome of this investigation by the Global Perdana Peace Investigation.

  10. Salam Tun,

    The story is not complete. The underlying reason or motif for all this is not mentioned. Oil.

    Thank You Tun

  11. A REPLY TO “tahir757”

    You sound a reasonable man by your comments. Are you a 757 pilot or captain? Your thesis though that CIA and MOSSAD conducted 9/11 to provide so called excuse in order for US to invade Iraq and Afghanistan is very adventurous and daring.

    I have commented on Afghanistan in my reply to Tun Dr. Mahathir – nothing needs to be added there.

    In regard to Iraq the invasion was “justified” before the Security Counsel of the United Nation by General Powell at the time. He argued Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and that for this reason one had to invade. The U.N. agreed.

    I agree with you that Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Osama were all essentailly quite stupid people – rich and just brave.

    To agree that the credit for the 9/11 attack should not go to Osama or Alqaedah for they don’t deserve it at all is disputable for once because no-one gives them any CREDIT of any kind; the entire world is BLAMING them and I believe rightfully so. Also see my reply to Tun Dr. Mahathir on this subject.

    Hopefully I won’t become one of those individual who will mysteriously die after I exposed my views here. 😉 I am confident I won’t be because I am too insignificant a World Citizen to make any difference to anyone. And, as you say, those are all versions of conspiracy theories – difficult to proof. And, as I say to Tun, the issue will be forever controversial.

    Nice to exchange views with you here! Please keep in touch. I will be in Malaysia soon. Maybe we can get together to discuss matters in person and I will thus find a new friend in this country which I so admire for its people, the life style and the climate.

    Take care and best regerds

    Alfred Willner

  12. Dear Tun Dr. Mahathir,

    thank you for your open reply on my comments. It gives me great pleasure to have managed to reach you on a direct line here as it were be it but over a controversial issue.

    On other subjects I was addressing you here before you might want to reply to my directly at [email protected]

    As to our controversial issue over the 9/11 attack let me say that Muslims do not deserve to be condemned, humiliated and killed in any case regardless of whether or not it was Muslims or Arabs involved in the 9/11 attack. There is never any good enough reason to demonised and discriminat, condemn, humiliate or kill a human being because they are not of your race or religion. This is inhumane, if not even insane!

    I do know, that you are not the only one to question the veracity of the official version of 9/11. Many conspiracy scenarios can be found on the Internet. I personally to believe the Official Version, last but not least because even the German Authorities confirmed that the persons publicly named as the attackers were indeed Muslim Arabs and some have lived an unpretentious live in Hamburg as so called “sleepers” for many years before 9/11. They were called when their time had come.

    I am a German and I do have faith in German Intelligence Services.

    Like you, I was also critical about what the Americans had initially presented to the public about the 9/11 case.

    But I was in my room 1819 at the Renaissance Hotel in Kuala Lumpur when at around 11 a.m. I believe it was, the second air plane hit the second tower, WATCHING THE ATTACK LIVE ON CNN. So it is difficult to argue that air planes can not have destructed the the WTC towers. The suspicion that explosives might have been involved for the towers fell too straight, like they were dynamited, was investigated by international institutions and found not to be sustainable.

    I am with you when you say that the truth is important because this incident resulted in Afghanistan and Iraq being invaded, hundreds of thousands being killed, the Muslims being demonised and discriminated against, with the a reservation on Afghanistan for Afganistan had been invaded many years before and by various other Nations like for instance Russia – so this didn’t result from 9/11. All had failed in Afghanistan though. And no-one will ever “succceed” their either. Like what I have said about Palestina, Israel and Gaza, one should also leave Afghans alone. It is their country where they are free to do what they please. It is not really one one else’s business.

    As for Iraq, I do remember with distinction that when George W. Bush’s Army invaded Iraq under the pretension that Iraq was keeping weapons of mass destruction, I told my friends that “this was the beginning of the End of the United States of America” – I am not sure whether I haven’t mentioned this here on your blog before. Repeating is does not harm though for from the looks of the current over all situation in regards to the U.S.A. all tends to eventually proof me right.

    The U.S. is falling and China is rising.

    This is the sequence of things. The Phoenisans have fallen, Rome has fallen, Old Egypt has fallen and one day the U.S. will fall – not in the too distant future it would now seem.

    Trusting I have demonstrated that I do indeed keep an open mind on matters albeit them being controversial I do therefor also hope you can see my view things. I am afraid the issue will forever be controversial and that there will not be much that any of us as individuals can be doing about that except to make our voices heard when and wherever we can.

    Salam and good health, dear Tun. It would be great if you contact me by E-Mail on our other pending issues.

    Alfred Willner

  13. Dear Tun,

    Thank you for consistently presenting information for the sake of the truth , that will eventually redeem the Muslim fate against injustice.

    Yg Berbahagia Tun,

    I have been reading that you are stepping up your efforts in support of UMNO/BN in the coming General Election.

    I pray that you can get Dato Seri Najib to have the courage to change UMNO.

    I believe in UMNO’s vision but my doubts on UMNO’s ability to change and inspire the Malays old and young to greater heights continue to exist. As yet, I cant shake it and I hope to see a ray of light when Dato Seri Najib finally call for the election.

    Among the factors if I may, Tun :
    1. UMNO is not doing enough to remedy corruption among its leaders. It just need to do more.

    2. Most of the ‘has-been’ leaders should step aside. They feel they have support but the support are only from their own loyalist in the party who are mostly ‘loyal’ because the ‘boss’ can give them ‘benefits’.

    3. Leaders like Khairy Jamaluddin, are not representing the youth, they are only representing themselves and their band of posse. The test is easy, strip him off all the financial gains that he has during Pak Lah’s time and will he still be the same ‘leader’? Many would bet on the downside.

    I’m off topic on this comment but this is the only way I know to write something to you Tun ( I’m of course assuming you do read most of the comments to your blog )

    Sincerely
    Cakkuncak

  14. Tun,

    There will be no end the USA evil doing. People like Bush and Blair are everywhere including inside Malaysian Politics.
    The difference is who are they killing and how they are killing? Physically or mentally?
    Muslim or Non-Muslim?
    For Money or Power?
    or Money and Power?

    Even it is the truth or with written black and white, I dont think you can prosecute the wrong doing of the USA Govt. Even if you have all the proof what can you do to that country. Bush and Blair are just a tiny person in the system and they are told what to do and say for their salary and maybe other perks. The two are untouchable and the zionist system will protect them at all cost.

    We can only hope and pray that this bad things dont happen again or better still dont happen to Malaysia and Malaysians.

    Sad to say, most white people will not understand what you are doing as they instil with their natural bullying, stronger win all and barbaric instinct. They have been doing this for centuries to Red Indians, Indians, Chinese, South Americans, Eskimos, Australian Aborigines and soon Martains when they reach Mars.

    I think it is better you save your energy and concentrate to motivate Malaysians to better themselves while they are living and stop think too much about afterlife and segmentation of sexes.

  15. Assallammualaikumwaarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruangan..
    Mr Alfred..
    In ethics, the plank of Carneades is a thought experiment first proposed by Carneades of Cyrene; it explores the concept of self-defense in relation to murder.

    In the thought experiment, there are two shipwrecked sailors, A and B. They both see a plank that can only support one of them and both of them swim towards it. Sailor A gets to the plank first. Sailor B, who is going to drown, pushes A off and away from the plank and, thus, proximately, causes A to drown. Sailor B gets on the plank and is later saved by a rescue team. The thought experiment poses the question of whether Sailor B can be tried for murder because if B had to kill A in order to live, then it would arguably be in self-defense.

    Some of the opinion though not strongly pronounced says this is exactly what Israelis are doing.They have not find in them capable of forgiving other hostile and alien belief from them.
    There can only one..That is us..
    We treat you nice of course provided after..after the master have eaten their fill..Now you can wash my feet with that…:)
    What else is new?
    It is the strenght of faith that can only made Israel stand up and notice..
    Officially none of world academician will acknowledge that it is the success of Mujahideen that cross the Red Sea by wading..yes..the word are wading that breach the Israeli’s defence in Yom Kippur…That was in 17th of Ramadhan..
    In life there is many truth that defied fiction because truth is Allah made and fiction is human..
    Many Tun blogger’s write through their best figment of imagination believing that is the truth.
    The truth is where subject is tested with all barrage of trial.
    In these sense what is truth and what is not?..
    We all can compromise by citing the origin of the data and the fact.If you ask me I could not furnish many proof too about what I have written ‘by seeing through the third eyes’..
    It is a wonderful experience though and maybe we should tries them in Gaza & Palestin,911..etc..etc..

    Terima kasih Tun.

  16. Assalamualiku Tun

    Isu zionist telah termaktub dalam Al Quran dan dibawah ini mungkin satu video yang berguna untuk dilihat oleh Umat Islam. Video ini dibuat oleh orang-orang Kristian yg juga sangsi dengan zionist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=IJxdIXgMGAI&feature=endscreen

    Inilah kenapa dunia tidak akan aman selagi zionist & perancangan Illuminati & one world order berterusan.

    Mereka boleh merancang & membuat pelbagai angkara untuk berkuasa, tetapi ALLAH yang menentukan.

    Yang malangnya dalam Islam sendiri (terutamanya parti politik yang kata berasaskan Islam) sudah jauh tersasar dgn ajaran mereka. Kalau diperhatikan dalam Islam juga sudah ada puak mirip zionist!

    Pas is a pest & past! UMNO mesti berusaha & capai kemenangan besar – tembelang Pas sudah jelas tenganga!

  17. Assalamualaikum Tun.

    Hi Alfred,
    in the 1960’s NASA sent rocket to orbit the earth with just a Chimpanzee on board, and came back safely to earth.
    Imagine what the American can do in the 21st century.
    Remember who killed President Kennedy as well as his brother Jack. CIA did it as they found out that JFK is not towing their line.
    But American being American, they dig deep enough to find the real culprit behind the famous assasination of the century.
    MOSSAD is the world expert on deceiving, that goes without saying as it is a known fact.
    Together CIA and MOSSAD conducted 911 to provide so called excuse in order for US to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Listen Alfred, like Saddam and Gaddafi, Osama are all stupid people , maybe just brave.
    The credit should not go to Osama or Alqaedah for they dont deserve it at all.
    Like Tun suggestion to go to the various website available to find out for yourself of other theories of 911.
    And again watch those website with an open mind.
    By the way several individual have died mysteriously after they come out with their own version of conspiracy theory, with one or two of them even after having met the US President to convey their side of the story.
    Thanks Tun.
    Save Gaza.
    Save Palestine.

  18. SO IF IT,S THE SECRET DOINGS OF PENTAGON OR NATO
    WHAT WILL THE WORLD DO ?

    JUSTICE HAS PUNISH THE WRONG GUY WITHOUT TRIAL
    WHICH IS MOST SEVERE THAN
    PUNISHING THE TRUE CULPRIT

    AT THE EXPENSE OF INNOCENTS LIVES
    AT THE EXPENSE OF A TRUE GOOD LEADERS
    GADAFFI,SADDAM,OSAMA
    AT THE DESTRUCTION OF YEARS
    OF HARD WORD DEVELOP NATION

    WE WORLD ARE ABETTING TO UNITED STATES
    NATO, PENTAGON,WESTERN INHUMAN CRIMINAL

    TRUTH HAS TO BE REVEALED
    THIS IS NOT A KACANG PUTIH MATTERS
    THAT JUSTICE CAN BE OVERLOOKED
    IT,S A SERIOUS CRIME
    THESE IS NO BARBARIC ERA

    AMERICAN LAW
    GUILTY TILL PROVEN
    HAS THEY PROVE TILL TODAY
    A BIG NO
    IT,S JUST AN ACCUSATION

    PERHAPS MIDDLE EAST,ISLAMIC WORLD OR THOSE HUMAN
    WHO KNOWS THE TRUE MEANING OF JUSTICE
    WE CAN APPLY TO THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE
    TO INVESTIGATE THOROUGHLY THESE TRUTH
    WE WILL BE FAIR
    INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE MUST NOT BE REPRESENTED BY WESTERN ALONE
    IT MUST INCLUDE THE REPRESENTATION OF WORLD

    TILL TODAY
    BUSH,RUMSFELD,NOT FORGETTING TONY BLAIR
    WAS NOT QUESTION NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION
    WE MAKE IT CLEAR IN MEDIA LIVE
    SO AS WE HUMAN CAN HAVE OUR OWN BELIEVES
    WITHOUT ANY LIES
    LET EVERY DETAILS BE ON THE TABLE OF THE MEDIA
    INTERNATIONAL COURT WILL DECIDE

    IF ITS PROVEN OF THEIR INNOCENTS
    WE ACCEPT IT AND MUST COMPENSATE THEM
    FOR DEFAMATION

    IF NOT ALL PRISONERS IN GUANTANAMO BAY
    MUST BE RELEASED
    PERHAPS A FEW LEFT BEHIND
    TO ACCOMPANY BUSH,BLAIR,RUMSFELD OR WHO ELSE
    THE GUILTY CULPRIT IN GUANTANAMO
    OR
    WE BE GOOD TO THESE GUILTY CULPRIT
    WE SENT THEM TO HOLIDAYS IN IRAQ,SYRIA,AFGHANISTAN OR PERHAPS NORTH KOREA

    IT IS LEGAL FOR ANY TO APPLY THE RIGHT
    OF GOING THROUGH OF INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE

    IF THESE IS NOT DONE
    WE WORLD ARE ABETTING
    TO THE WORLD MOST SERIOUS CRIMES
    YOU & ME

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