1. Flight International reports that India may upgrade the Sukhoi-30MKI.
2. The MiG-21 would be retired but the MiG-29 would be upgraded.
3. Malaysia has been working with India on the modification to the Russian-built aircraft. Maybe we should find out what the upgrading of the Sukhoi Su-30 and the MiG-29 is all about.
4. There was talk before of replacing the MiG-29 with other aircraft. I wonder whether there is a threat of war currently. If there is none, then if necessary only we should upgrade what we have.
Salam Tun yang amat kami kasihi,
Setelah saya membaca semua yang menulis sehingga 8 Jan 2011, saya dapat rasakan kerisauan dan kebimbangan mereka tentang perbelanjaan pertahanan, keperluan menaik-tarafkan aset2 perang sedia ada dan apakah kita boleh memenangi perperangan terbuka (open conflict) dengan negara jiran. Tidak kita apa latar-belakang penulis2 tersebut, rata2 mereka berpendapat ada baik dan sebaliknya jika dibandingkan diantara faktor membeli aset pertahanan baru terkini (state of the art)dengan menaik-tarafkan aset2 sedia ada (jika ada keperluan dan keadaan ekonomi mengizinkan).
YBhg Tun, izinkan saya berkongsi sedikit tenteng konsep pertahanan serantau.
Pada hemat sayaKata2`diplomacy is the best policy’ masih relevan di masa kini untuk mengelakkan segala konflik. Didalam sejarah dunia, ada konflik yang dapat dibendung dari merebak kepada perperangan dengan kuatnya ikatan diplomatik dan hubungan antarabangsa. Rundingan untuk menjernihkan kekeruhan adalah menjadi lazim di rantau ASEAN dan sebab itu kita tidak pernah dilanda konflik ketenteraan setakat ini. Semuanya dapat diselesaikan dengan semangat setiakawan ASEAN dan ada yang di bawa hingga ke ICJ (International Court of Justice) seperti kes Batu Putih dan Sipadan/Ligitan. Tidak dapat disangkalkan bahawa jika ada sikap mencabar (provoking act) oleh beberapa negara jiran, rata2 adalah adalah didorong oleh rasa curiga,cemburu,syak wasangka dan tingkah-laku juga kata2 pemimpin2 politik yang tidak menjiwai kesepakatan dan semangat setiakawan ASIAN. Jangan lupa juga dengan pengaruh dari kuasa2 besar yang tidak senang dengan konsep ZOPFAN (Zone of Peace Freedome and Neutrality) ASEAN dan mereka2 ini sentiasa memimpikan untuk bertapak di rantau ini sebagai `rakan pertahanan’ selain bimbang kita akan cenderung kepada kuasa besar tertentu.
Jadi,berbalik kepada soal pertahan negara kita,sememangnya kita telah ada dasar dan garis panduan untuk setiap pembelian aset pertahanan tidak kira kecil atau besar. Jika perancangan dibuat atas dasar untuk mengimbangi kekuatan negara jiran, itu adalah terkeluar dari semangat ASEAN dan realitinya kita tidak mampu untuk melaksanakannya dengan bujet pertahanan di bawah RM10bil. Keutamaan pembangunan negara dan rakyat perlu di utamakan.
Namun, tidak bermakna kita hanya berdiam diri dan membiarkan keupayaan pertahanan kita semakin kurang dengan kekurangan aset dan peralatan yang usang (out dated). Kita patut menubuhkan satu badan atau suruhanjaya bebas (seperti kes melupuskan pesawar tempur A-4 Skayhawk) untuk mengenal pasti keperluan pembelian, menaik-tarafkan aset2 pertahanan atau melupuskan dimana matlamat utama kita adalah untuk berbelanja atas dasar keperluan negara dan keadaan semasa dengan mengambilkira keadaan ekonomi kita ketika ini.
Great Britain telah memeranjatkan dunia dengan pembentangan bujet 2011 oleh kepimpinan baru dengan mengumumkan pemotongan besar bujet pertahanan dan mengutamakan pembangunan negara dan rakyat. Penglupusan `aircraft carrier Royal Ark, pesawat(harrier,tornado,nimrod)dan penutupan beberapa pangkalan tentera termasuk di German telah turut meresahkan kalangan pemimpin tentera mereka sendiri yang sekian lama menikmati bujet pertahanan yang tinggi sebagai kuasa besar dunia. Walaubagaimanapun, langkah tersebut disusuli dengan menjalinkan MOU ketenteraan dengan negara jiran seperti penggunaan bersama kapal pengangkut pesawat bagi menjalankan tugas operasi. Mereka menganalisa-semula(re-evaluate) ancaman sebenar negara sepeti petikan berikut:
‘Most national security threats arise from actions by others: states or non-state actors, who are hostile to our interests. There is much we can do to reduce the likelihood of such risks occurring, on our own or with partners. We will directly disrupt adversaries such as terrorists; we will promote cooperation to reduce the motivation of states to be hostile to us; we will build alliances that make hostile acts against us more risky to their perpetrators; we will act to control the spread of advanced technology systems and the development of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons; and we will promote development and combat poverty to reduce the causes of potential hostility. In many cases, we aim to tackle problems at root overseas, to reduce the likelihood of risks turning into actual attacks on us at home’. (Sedutan dari `The National Security Strategy Presented to Parliament by the Prime Minister
by Command of Her Majesty October 2010)
Pada hemat saya, konflik di rantau ASEAN adalah bersifat sementara dan hanya dari aspek politik dan sentimen rakyat. Realitinya,tidak akan berlaku perperangan sebenar selain dari ketegangan disebabkan faktor2 semasa dan bermusim. Tentunya kerajaan kita tekah mengenal-pasti apakah ancaman2 masakini terhahap negara kita.
Dari itu, adalah lebih baik kita memaksimakan penggunaan aset2 pertahanan sedia ada dan jika perlu untuk di naik-tarafkan, penelitian yang perancangan yang terperici perlu dibuat untuk memastikan matlamat dan objektif yang disasarka tercapai.Pembelian pesawat tempur baru tidak bermakna pertahanan negara akan menjadi lebih kuat jika aset2 yang sedia ada tidak dimenafaatkan dengan optimum. Aspek pembangunan dan keupayaan sumber manusia (pengendali dan penjagaan) juga perlu di titikberatkan.
Saya hanya sekadar berkongsi pendapat, maaf jika terkeluar dari topik.
Salam hormat pada Ayahanda Tun yang amat dikasihi.
Y. Bhg Tun,
Persoalan tentang pembelian pesawat pejuang yang baru oleh negara sememangnya satu persoalan yang besar. Ini kerana ianya bakal membabitkan perbelanjaan yang bukan sedikit jumlahnya. Sedangkan dalam masa yang sama negara perlu lebih sensitif di dalam mengagihkan belanjawan negara dalam bidang-bidang yang lebih memerlukan. Saya percaya bahawa di dalam menentukan keputusan pembelian pesawat pejuang MIG-29N ianya haruslah dipersetujui oleh kerajaan hasil daripada cadangan dan penelitian yang dibuat oleh jawatankuasa yang dilantik oleh kementerian yang bertanggungjawab. Jadi apabila timbulnya persoalan pembelian pesawat baru bagi menggantikan MIG-29N, saya tertanya adakah pesawat pejuang yang kita miliki itu seumpama sebuah kereta yang jangka hayatnya hanyalah setaraf kereta. Iaitu perumpamaannya kereta itu apabila menjelang umurnya 10 tahun maka akan mendatangkan berbagai masalah kerana ianya digunakan sepenuhnya. Tetapi bagaimanakah pula dengan pesawat MIG-29N itu adakah ianya digunakan sepenuhnya (misalnya terlibat di dalam peperangan atau digunakan secara “massive” di dalam zon peperangan. Bertitik tolak daripada persoalan itu, saya berharap agar perkara ini perlu diteliti dengan selanjutnya sebelum apa-apa keputusan diambil oleh pihak yang berkenaan kerana ianya membabitkan kepentingan umum dan yang lebih utama ialah kebajikan rakyat harus dijaga. Masih banyak ruang yang perlu “dikemaskan” dan ianya menuntut tanggungjawab yang bukan sedikit khususnya daripada mereka yang telah dilantik di dalam penelitian pembelian pesawat negara.
Sekian.
We leave too much of defending the country to the men in green, blue and other emergency services authority. Why dont we create a huge reserve of citizens trained in basic military tactics and techniques as well as handling basic weapons?
Make the enemy – big OR small…find it extremely hard and very bloody to eat us.
Imagine eating a porcupine with its quills attached!
How many MiGs, Sukihois or F18s we need to fight? They all need fuel to fly, pilots to manouvere and airfields to land as well as technicians to do technical check ups and repairs.
Imagine enemy soldiers facing layers and layers of Malaysians – they will NOT want to fight locals who are keen to protect their own soils. They will NOT be keen to harm people who look like their brothers, sisters or parents.
The age of war mongering is slowly diminishing – only threats are what neighbours show. No country can ill afford a war.
Our immediate threats are from Singapore and Indonesia – Sings have superior weapons but have no experience in attacking and occupying as they have a small professional military.
They can only threaten us.
Indonesia has a large standing military but the larger a military is, the most sophistication it needs to be to manage it. Do you think the Indons have state of the art technology to do just that?
They canot risk a war with Malaysia as their economy depends on Malaysia ans they also realises that they would have to concentrate all their military towards Malaysia leaving open gaps for rebellion in Sumatera and Irian Jaya.
A chaotic and destropyed Malaysia will bring more harm to Singaporean and Indonesian interest!
Both Indonesia and Singapore needs a stable Malaysia as a stable and prosperous Malaysia means more jobs and money for many, many Indonesians and it also means that no on will be of an immediate threat to Singapore too.
Malaysia needs a purely defensive weaponary system – multi level radars, sophisticated jamming systems, light tanks to manouvere amongst Malaysian jungles, anti aircraft missiles, anti tank projectiles, attack and transportation choppers and refurbished Harrier Jets with state of the art avionics and weapons so that these Harrier Jump Jets do not need stand alone airfields – use the hundreds of thousands of spaces in plantations, kampungs, small islands etc etc.
Malaysia need to create, maintain and continously train companies of professional soldiers attached with local policing authority so that they can create and train Malaysians as new age home guards.#These new age home guards will also act as peacekeepers in tandem with the police.
A country full of military trained citizens or at least more than half of the population will make an enemy think many, many times before engaging in war!
Switzerland is afine example – thats why Nazi germany avoided it because of its combined military service population and terrain.
Dearest Tun
1-The US has to exit Afghanistan soonest possible.
2-The longer she stays the resistence will only intensify.These Taliban armies are people who seek paradize in their deaths so the moment they are equipped with some state of the art death machines the yankees are going to be easy meat.
3-Make no mistake about that.The Americans are going to face the same fate as the Russians.What goes around comes around.They have too many enemies who are just too eager to empower the Talibans.The stronger the Taliban gets the more external support its gonna get too.
4-So if America is wise its better for her to walk out now with a slightly bruised image but her troops alive than stay and let the world see her later humiliated and the way that made the USSR history.
5-She has to make a decision to determine the continued survival of her civilization.Her economy is bleeding so profusely she actually has no choice.But then,how can she let the World watch her eat humble pie?How can she let the terrorist win without a fight?
6-Let this be a powerful lesson to us all,that we will only land ourselves into trouble the moment we think that we are the strongest!Let us not forget this forever.
Thanks Tun
Tun,
Saya kagum dengan tulisan azmiahmadithanin pada 10 Disember, 2010 1:22 PM yang mahir tentang selok belok ketenteraan.
Saya setuju dengan pendapat bernas beliau kecuali saranan beliau supaya wakil pembangkang dibawa bersama apabila negara membeli peralatan pertahanan.
Tun dan azmiahmadithanin, saya minta maaf banyak-banyak la kerana tidak setuju dengan saranan tersebut sebab berpendapat bukan sahaja tiada wakil pembangkang yang mahir tentang selok belok ketenteraan malah termasuk semua ahli politik daripada kerajaan sendiri.
Bagi parti pembangkang di negara ini, mereka cuma pandai mengkritik apa sahaja peralatan ketenteraan yang dibeli negara walaupun ia penting demi untuk pertahanan negera.
Sebagai contoh pembelian dua buah kapal selam walaupun mengalami kerosakan sedikit telah ditentang hebat oleh wakil-wakil pembangkang sejak awal-awal lagi walaupun umum tahu pentingnya sesebuah negara mempunyai kapal selam.
Pengalaman peperangan di Falklands telah membuktikan betapa pentingnya peranan kapal selam dimana hanya sebuah kapal selam British sudah cukup untuk menghalang satu armada laut Argentina ke laut.
Dalam erti kata lain, sebuah kapal selam sudah cukup untuk menggerunkan walaupun sebuah armada laut yang canggih yang dilengkapi dengan kapal pengangkut pesawat pejuang yang dimiliki negara musuh.
Malangnya, pemikiran ahli-ahli politik di negara kita ini cetek, asal dapat membangkang apa sahaja yang dibuat kerajaan, cukuplah.
Bukan niat saya memihak terhadap kerajaan tetapi sikap pariotisme dan sayangkan negara langsung tidak ada bukan sahaja di kalangan ahli-ahli politik malah rakyat negara ini disebabkan kejahilan mereka terhadap peralatan ketenteraan.
Bagi mereka apa sahaja yang dibelanjakan untuk pertahanan negara adalah mahal dan membazir wang negara serta mudah membuat perbandingan tentang perlunya wang tersebut digunakan untuk kebajikan rakyat.
Ada rakyat kita yang menghentam sebarang perbelanjaan untuk pertahanan negara dengan membuta tuli disebabkan fahaman politik dan kejahilan mereka dan ada juga yang menentang disebabkan sikap perkauman dan iri hati tetapi pada masa yang sama turut berbangga serta memuji sistem pertahanan sebuah negara jiran kita.
Tun, bagi saya pertahanan negara adalah penting seiring dengan pembangunan negara.
Ia melibatkan kedaulatan dan maruah negara.Jangan disebabkan kejahilan kita nanti, negara kita dimalukan dan diaibkan oleh sebuah negara pulau yang lebih kecil kerana tentera mereka lebih kuat daripada kita.
Apabila kita diugut oleh sebuah negara pulau yang kecil, kita bukan sahaja akan malu dan hilang maruah malah akan jadi bahan ketawa oleh negara lain.
Tun, pada saat itu tiada guna lagi kita membeli pesawat udara dan peralatan tentera yang paling canggih di dunia kerana ia sudah tidak relevan lagi bagi pertahanan negara sebab tanpa kemahiran mengendalikan peralatan yang canggih, tentera kita akan kecundang dalam peperangan dengan negara lain.
Saya doakan supaya mimpi ngeri itu tidak berlaku pada negara kita.
Salam Tun.
We should upgrade what we have. We don’t know what will happen in the future. We can’t believe the US or anyone else. Later on, there will be a big war (if war between North and South Korea did happen). Like former war, it was just a small war between few countries but then it spreads to neighborhood countries.
The government should put this on a priority, especially in aero field. This is the most critical thing. I wonder when we can develop our own missile.
I’m not talking in ‘war mood’, but I’m stating this based on my awareness for what will happen in the future, and for the sake of Malaysia.
Dear Amin Tan…
First of all, some of your facts are incorrect. During Falkland War (1982), Argentina used the Super Etendard bomber which carries Exocet missile to sink the British Frigate. The Super Etendard bomber has now outdated made by France.
Discussing the topic of Russian and American Fighterplane. Never heard in any aircombat after Vietnam War has the MiG, Sukhoi, YAK or Tupolev jets won against US-made plane in air combat. In Beka’a Valley, Syria in 1980’s, 83 nos of Syrian fighters consist of MiG-23 and 21 were blown-up from the sky by the Israeli’s plane consist of F-16s and Kfir 2 (modified Mirage – France). The Israeli however only lost ONE F-16.
Off coast of Libya over Gulf of Sidri, 2 Tomcats (F-14A) downed several MiGs belonged to Libyan Airforce.
The Soviet made fighter is always one generation behind of the US one. Meaning that our SU-30 is only equivalent F-18 which already absolete in US. But US starts distributing F22 to its allies including Singapore. The F22 is at least 2 generation ahead of our SU30. So, whats the point of spending so much money to purchase the big bird?
It is better for us to concentrate to our air defense and purchase a high quality missile defense system such as long range SAM as well SSM which can destroy land target such as airport and other military arsenal.
I believe the Russian has pretty good kitty in the basket as the have to deal with sophisticated American plane.
My recommendation;
1. Buy military jets from US or European country.
2. Buy air dense system such SAM (surface to air), SSM (surface to surface) as well as cruise missile from Russia.
3. Against warship, the lazy moving of Exocet is no longer useful. Modern warfare sees Russia and China opt for supersonic anti ship missile. Five supersonic missiles launch at one time are impossible to be intercepted even by Harpoon
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang..
[[Either we buy American aircraft or not at all. Let us be like Japan and Germany, let our air defence be covered by US Air force]]
Dear Abg amin tan..
Pemerintahan adalah untuk menggantikan nubuwwah ( kenabian ) bagi mengawasi ad Din ( Agama ) dan mengawasi siasah dunia yang berkaitan dengannya.
This is one of the lesson that our previous ulamak have made sure we must abide and follows.And there is no proper English word for this.Consequently,Muslim must realizes that we cannot allows non-muslim to takes the responsbilities of taking care of us muslims.The job and responsbilities solely lays on our own shoulders..muslim.
Meaning,how could we handle over a knife to non muslim to ‘sembelih’ a chicken for us?..We must take the role as ‘simple’ as menyembelih and not the other ways around!!
Now..
The role of defending one own country..To whom do we trusts our neck? To be lead like the cattle or to be slaughtered like a lambs?
Trust the sheperd?Trust the proven mechanism and machinery and the people that populated them?..Ahem..you are with us or aginst us?..
This is the very bone of contention!!
If we trust the American ( read : the powers that be ),they will surely wrings our neck the moment we disagrees with them..To my utmost respect many thanks to Tun who have the utmost nerves and courages of steel to defied them times and again..( read Tun new posting US ).
So..what do we do? What do we do?
Conventionally,its what Abg amin tan and most of us will do and have done.Trust the American.
Conventionally as opposes to the American,some will seeks to balance this equation and chose Russian..case in point..Tun.
Conventionally too..Some have started someting by their very own defence mechanism which does not inclined to American or Russian..building their own…China and Iran..
Unconventionally..Islam offers something better..No war and no need to waste all of this kind of “skulldudgery”..Peace..
But unfortunately,American have another attributes most chose to ignores..that is a bully!
A bully does not recognizes other languages but their own that is strength and power.And to make a point and makes notice, this small country named Malaysia must showed the big bully named American and his kind that we can and actually can bloodied their nose when needs to be..And this need must be always demonstrated in minor and small forms..I refers them to appendix a.
Cutting it short and a make it as simple as it is.
Appendix a.
1)Conventional.A show of force.The ability to flex a muscle.
In one of the assembly of the fighter’s all over the world..An American SEAL have met a Malaysian Commando.A Malaysian? mused the American SEAL..How good can you be??..This American SEAL can launchs a lightning jab of 10 fist a second and as much kick.They met in semifinal..and The American SEAL thought to make it quick and does not have to sweat..True enough..He don’t have to sweat because the moment he launched his lightning jab he was owerpowered by the Malaysian commando by one simple move of Silat Cekak..
There..The American have learnt his lesson the hard way albeit the uproar of the humiliation..This is a minor scale of respect by the American towards the Malaysian.
2)Unconventional.The pagan challenges Rasullulah s.a.w to proves his mettle and ability in course of his ‘dakwah’.Rasullulah rose to met those challenges and up to the task even in splitting the moon asunder..
Now..the modern era of the world..
We as a muslim,must be able to proves to them that we can met and rose to meet any challenges that anybody throws at us be it conventional or unconventional..The question as are we up to it?
Qou vadis spartan?
QOU VADIS MUKMIN??
Terima kasih Tun.
Dear Tun,
According to BBC news today, NATO and American forces are not winning the war against Taliban in Afghanistan. They cannot win in another 6 years. But Obama has given the dateline to pull out American troops in 6 months.
amin tan
Malaysia is not suitable for an active physical war, and we don’t have enough everything to walk into the war. Compared to other SEA country, I believe my country stand last, but their overall duty guarding Malaysia, make us all feel safe, always gets more and more relevant.
Dearest Tun
May I…
By wajaperakAuthor Profile Page on December 12, 2010 1:52 PM
Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh
//Mr Parameswara 2..
Dear brother..What I am trying to convey is the wisdom.Conventional wisdom and unconventional wisdom…..Their very view is how to win the war..a results that always end up tragic and pathethic.By contrast in Islam we win war by…
Making peace!!//
1-Aha..so that is what you meant…Thank you for a very good insight of unconventional wisdom of Islam.Well I wish to add on to the above captioned point of winning by making peace or what I would prefer to call a war on capturing hearts and souls.This has been the most glorious of the Muslim strategy of winning wars when we have not a winnable chance against the enemy.
2-This is not a mere wishful or idealistic strategy but instead a reality that has happened before.The first of such known cases has been attempted by the the people of 12th century Baghdad when they converted their formidable and ruthless conquerors the Mongols to Islam.I have brought up this case umpteen times already because I think this is truly a marvelous achievement not done before in history.
3-A second such victory was attempted in our own midst in the 15th century,by the Sultanate of Malacca over their much powerful Hindu Majapahit Kingdom.The moment emperor Yong Le of Ming Dynasty China had awarded protectorate status,Malacca immediately worked out diplomatic and trading initiatives to make peace with Majapahit.
4-The Sultan married the Javanese princess through which blood relationship was established later.A myriad of other initiatives were also introduced that eventually captured the hearts and souls of Majapahit kingdom so much they were willing to accept the language of Malacca to be the lingua franca over the whole of their dominion now called Indonesian islands.Majapahit was the original centre of civilization before the advent of Malacca.
5-In the end the people who were once bitter enemies became brothers in faith when the staunch Hindus of Majapahit, people who had built the awesome temple at Borobudur and elsewhere eventually accepted en-mass the religion of Malacca as their own too.Its truly unthinkable that such a feat could be done.It didn’t happen in a vacuum nor was there magic.Malacca had done the right things…
6-The Muslims now are in the same situation all over again.Our enemies are ready to destroy us too and militarily we may not be winnable. So like it or not this way of capturing hearts will be the only strategy employable or left to us in this 21st century.We do not have a choice.
7-Its going to be a war of the minds again.But can it be done?Obviously.After all what has been done once can be done again.All we’ve got to do is to research the principles from history,use our brain power to apply all these principles using the 21st century leverages afforded us now and seek from the Almighty for his guidance and help.Let’s start by winning the hearts and souls of the other races in Malaysia first,shall we?
8-Yes Andrewtay the United Nations is useless now because they are being dominated by the West that is why I mentioned if only we can empower it..I believe that God would not allow injustices and corruption to go on forever..God would eventually restore peace in this End of History once all the means for global peace are available..one of which is the advent of the Global village where the whole world is ready to be one huge Malaysia…
9-The West will finally bow out, graciously or ungraciously, to the unstoppable new successors from the East led by China and assisted by India if not soon then a little later. These two wise men from the East at the helm may lead eventually to the empowerment of the United Nations to the original position it was hoped to function.Democracy will be introduced to the United Nations eventually.And there will be no more of this stupid and evil Veto powers.
10-The United nations will be the only body to be allowed to have weapons to keep the world at peace forever.Nations can use all their money now allocated for their defense for the good of their people instead.The world will be a land of plenty it has actually been made by the Almighty.Poverty will be taken off the streets eventually all over the world!
11-Beautiful dreams can and will come true and we better believe it.After 7000 years mankind has become too tired of wars and more wars.Enough is enough.Peace shall prevail in the end as God has promised.’Our lord in heaven,hallow be thy name,thy kingdom comes thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven..’
Thanks Tun.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
harap-harap Tun ada kakitangan yg cukup untuk meng-kategori-kan komen-komen yg pro atau menentang dalam topik kali ini.sebab saya lihat komen-komen disini yg terbahagi dua antara pro dan menentang sebenar nya juga terbahagi kpd bangsa.rata-rata bangsa asing seperti andrewtay dan kaum nya,menentang apa-apa saja idea positif yg boleh memperkuatkan Negara.orang-orang asing ini tidak ingin melihat Negara yg di terajui Melayu menjadi kuat.
lebih-lebih lagi jika kekuatan kita melebihi singapura.ada satu-dua ekor yg cuba meng-arahkan permusuhan kita kpd Indonesia sekaligus memperlihatkan dgn amat jelas sekali kepentingan mereka sebangsa dalam melaga-lagakan Umat Islam dan Bangsa Melayu Nusantara.itu strategi Lee Kuan Yew untuk melemahkan kerajaan-kerajaan Melayu baik di Malaysia atau Indonesia.dan strategi itu difahami dgn jelas oleh seluruh anak bangsa nya.baik dimana saja mereka menumpang,di Malaysia atau Indonesia,mereka BERTUGAS.bertugas untuk kepentingan bangsa mereka.ketaatan mereka hari ini adalah kpd singapura.sebab itu lahir idea-idea yg menentang apa-apa juga idea yg mendokong kepentingan Bangsa Melayu Nusantara.
sebab itu Malaysia atau Indonesia,atau kedua-dua nya sekali perlu kuat dalam hal ketenteraan.selain teknologi dan peralatan perang tercanggih,kita juga perlu menapis orang-orang yg kita boleh percaya memegang senjata dan menjamin senjata yg kita beri tak makan tuan.
malang nya pemimpin-pemimpin kita belum ada keberanian untuk bertegas terhadap orang-orang ini.kita masih berselindung dibalik ketinggian budi terhadap kaum yg tak reti bahasa.padahal pemimpin-pemimpin cina di singapura begitu lantang berterus-terang enggan orang-orang Melayu singapura berkedudukkan penting dalam tentera mereka.dari LKY,Goh Chok Tong hingga lah anak LKY,semua nya tegas mengatakan “tak mahu meletakkan orang Melayu dalam serba-salah” jika terjadi perang dgn Malaysia atau Indonesia.sebab tentulah tak masuk akal untuk orang Melayu tembak bangsa sendiri untuk mempertahankan bangsa asing.
selain rasuah,itulah beza nya pemimpin Melayu dgn pemimpin cina.mereka berani berterus-terang,kita pula takut dgn anggapan buruk.sentiasa hendak berlaku adil.Islam Hadhari dan SatuMalaysia adalah bukti jelas ketidak-upayaan kita mempertahankan hak mutlak kita terhadap Tanah-Air kita.hanya sekadar laungan retorik yg menjijikkan…”takkan melayu hilang didunia”, “maruah bangsa”
dan lain-lain laungan kosong yg tidak menjadi realiti dalam bentuk polisi kerajaan atau undang-undang Negara.kalau setakat menghunus keris dalam dewan perhimpunan agung Umno,pakai skirt lagi baik.itu bukan pemimpin yg boleh mempertahankan bangsa Melayu.dan kalau pemimpin begitu yg kita pilih untuk melindungi kita dari ancaman orang sehebat LKY dan chinpeng-chinpeng kapitalis,nescaya penakatan bangsa kita sangat dan tidak mustahil kita akan merempat dibumi kita sendiri.
dgn pemimpin seperti Hishamuddin dan Khairy,tak dapat tidak,kita akan sampai pada kedudukkan yg sama seperti bangsa Melayu singapura.negara nya kaya,tapi milik orang seratus-peratus.orang Melayu jadi bangsa kelas ketiga.orang dari india diberi layanan istimewa dgn helah untuk menunjukkan kpd dunia bahwa orang melayu tidak dipinggirkan dan sebab kemunduran bangsa melayu adalah amat munasabah kerana singapura mengamalkan sistem meritokrasi.
terimakasih Tun.
Dear Tun,
I am at all not familiar with MIG AND SUKHOI. I AM more familiar with American combat aircraft. I have been brainwashed by the American media the American has air superiority. I am awe-strucked by their fearsome air power as displayed by the latest Iraq war. Iraq was a sitting duck. They have speed, range and maneuverability. aided by satellite and missile technology, their precision is deadly. They have in their arsenal F15 and F16 fighter bombers, short and medium range fighter bomber aircraft. They have F111 swing wing radar evading satellite guided precision bomber. Last and the their best is B1 long range satellite guided bomber based in the USA. They have the Apache combat helicopters.
I heard of MIG delivering French Exorcet missile sinking a British destroyer SHEFFIELD during the Falkland war.
But the downside is the American don’t sell their combat aircraft to muslim country like Malaysia, Indonesia or Pakistan. They sell to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Singapore and Taiwan.
The American possesses AWAC radar system which Singapore also possesses. In any air war with Singapore, we would lose outright based on the aircraft and equipment possessed by the 2 countries. Let us not waste time and money on Russian aircrafts. Either we buy American aircraft or not at all. Let us be like Japan and Germany, let our air defence be covered by US Air force.
amin tan
War is a waste……..Arab bought everythings since Gamal Nasser to Sadam Hussin…If only all the resource was mobilised to industries,production and modernization the wealth probably enough to subsidise all palestinian in Gaza and west bank. They get trap in Cold War Game for past 50 years
However , sometime you have no choice but to be prepared
or at least appear to be so as a deterent
Upgrading must be parrallel wit human upgrading of technology
research,invention and inovation through research
NOT PURE CONSUMER………Germany had spearhead technology and industry in 1940s when the population was only 59 million and limited resources….what is important is to mobilised the brain and technology
kalau upgrade pun tak boleh buat, nak buat pesawat perang jauh lagilah nampaknya. Maka masa depan dan keselamatan negara nampaknya malap. Bukankah di IPTA sudah banyak fakulti kejuruteraan dan fakulti perkomputeran? Geran penyelidikan pun ada. Apahal tidak boleh upgrade atau saja hendak sedut duit?
The reasons for India’s wanting to upgrade the MiG 29’s in its arsenal is to avail itself of updated technology in this state of the art fighter aircraft. It is also part of a deal they signed with the Russians which enables them to access the advances available to the Russians in newer avionics, fire control systems and electronic countermeasures (ECM’s).
The MiG 29 remains a great formidable aircraft and an effective one at that. The MiG 21’s once the mainstay of the IAF has long reached its use by date and is now largely a second rate fighter which has limited roles to play in that country’s very large arsenel and armed serevices. It was state of the art in its day but its airframes have long corroded and many are patently unservicable in India’s airforce.
Israel (IAF)assisted India with replacement electronics it jointly developed with the Indians in MiG 21’s, 23’s and 27’s a few years ago as an experiment which improved the performance of each of these ageing aircraft.
Needless to say although denied, Israel got ‘up close and personal’ as they say to these variants of the MiG in order to thoroughly satisfy themseves of their abilities and weaknesses in the event they have to counter them again in the middle east against Syria or Libya.
The Sukhoi is of course a masterly piece of aeronautical engineering. With such aircraft in Malaysia’s armoury RMAF needs to keep its fleet and its flyers in tip top condition ever ready to do combat. And with young committed individuals fighting for love of god and country half the battle is won.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
Tun..harap sudi mengizinkan ruang..
Mr Parameswara 2..
Dear brother..What I am trying to convey is the wisdom.Conventional wisdom and unconventional wisdom.See here in Tun blog people gives all kind of opinion.What they did not realizes is their opinion just confines to conventional ones..We should explores the unconventional wisdom that Islam offers..
Most people opiniated on certain kinds of stratagem in dealing matters regarding wars.Their very view is how to win the war..a results that always end up tragic and pathethic.By contrast in Islam we win war by…
Making peace!!
Aha..How to achieves peace then when your adversary believes war is winnable by them and not by you??And..winner takes all?
This is the billion dollar questions..
Let me highlight what Islam have showed us.
1)First.The origin of dispute.It can be whatever issues happening,made to happen,devised to happen,conjuredly happened but most are all trivial happening in the first place.Solutions?
Avoid the happening by prevention.Prevention is better than cure!
2)Second.Matter comes to boil.So the other party could not take it anymore.By certain claimed that we have violated their kind of sovereignity that their could not stomach it any more,they launch a preemptive strikes.Solutions?
Reporting and documenting any incidence from ‘hotspot’ by minutes detail to UN Security Council.Note in case – Pulau Layang-layang once upon a time.We have shown utmost restraint by adhering to the UN Resolution.The ‘friend’ can turned ‘foe’ not by being ‘doppleganger’.They have devised and planned the ‘excused’ quite some times to make those preemptive strikes..Our role is
Denying those excuse!!
3)Third.Brinkmanship.Remember the phrase?…It is easy,like taking the candy from the baby..The other party might feels we are ripe for taking..Proves them wrong by the demonstration of our strength in defence..That is what ‘friendly’ exercises of our Arm Forces all about..Showing the tip of iceberg of our military strenght..Flexed a bit muscle..showed what we might gives your intrusion a suprised ‘welcomes’..
A Provocateur Impression..
Last and not least..Fools and his money soon part company..We all are resident of a country.We pooled all our money in bank and treasuries.We elected politician to keep good all our monies and returned them to us in forms of safety and development.If we have chosen the wrong politician by the folly of our own stupidity,why we lament the fact the loss of our money..even the lost of our lives?
We had it coming!!
So..we are responsible for our own safety.The moment deals turn sour we must have our own backup plan.
To err is human.Letting it stand that is inhumane!!
Terima kasih Tun.
Sorry for misinforming the forum.
It was DEFCON 4 in South Korea
And Parameswara 2, the United Nations is useless. The UN doesn’t have its own troops and most of their budget comes from the coffers of the West.
Salam Hormat Tun,
I also think the same thing.We should upgrade all the thing that we have now and get ready for any war threat.Even we don’t have any enemy but the world now is unpredictable.So we just have to get ready every time.
Thanks,Tun
Jaquar you are absolutely right.
Dogfight is a thing in the past. Planes nowadays are maneuverable so it may have a chance to outmaneuver missiles. However there may be times where a dog fight may be inevitable.
Its all about detection and staying away from the effective range of missiles.
Russian technology is not all bad. Its cheaper and they do have good stuffs. Always 0.5 generation slower than their western counterparts.
Please note that the F-22s are not combat proven against the Russian aircrafts. Maybe if things turn out for the worse in the Korean peninsular, we get to see the F-22s in action. My Korean friend told me that the F22s were up in the air most of the time now as it was DEFCON 1 in the korean peninsular when the North shelled the South.
As for Malaysia, tak payah beli all the good shit if we cant even maintain our planes. Realistically, how long can our planes handle a 7 day war with any of our neighbours? We have so little planes, so little trained pilots and very little spare parts. Its pathetic.
To those who say malaysia is not threatened, you are wrong. We have the Indons who are so ever willing to chop off Malay heads because they love how you guys stole their culture and rebrand them as Malaysian culture. And we have the Singaporean who might get sick of their 2×2 metre country and land grab Johor however unrealistically that may sound.
One thing for sure, like the Isrealis said before, if in doubt, preemptive strike is the way to go. They are so good at preemptive strike its sinful just talking about it. However, the Arabs know what im taking about.
Dearest Tun
may I..
//By wajaperakAuthor Profile Page on December 9, 2010 7:43 PM
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang..
Aha..Mr Parameswara 2..now you are really out of your depth here in this posting..:) //
1-Sorry bro don’t know much about these war machines but just positively trying to contribute an idea of why should we be still having wars now that we already have the United Nations.
2-We already have a tool to secure world peace actually and that’s why I think our Tun had dared dream about criminalizing wars.
3-Just how do we mobilize the world to empower the United Nations again..
Thanks for the feedback!God bless you.
Thanks Tun.
Dear Tun and all,
Fakta sejarah menyarankan kita berbaik-baik dengan semua negara seperti menghantar bunga emas kepada Siam agar kita tidak diserang.
Fakta sejarah juga menyarankan kita mengadakan perhubungan yang baik dengan negara Cina agar kita mendapat perlindungan daripada angkara musuh-musuh lain.
Fakta sejarah juga tidak menggalakkan kita bergaduh dengan kuasa-kuasa besar seperti Portugis, Belanda dan Inggeris kerana kita kurang keupayaan ketenteraan berbanding mereka.
Kalau dihalusi, boleh ke kita mengadakan perhubungan diplomatik yang baik dengan kawan-kawan atau sekutu kita agar kita mendapak perlindungan serta sokongan daripada kuasa-kuasa yang mungkin menyerang kita.
Ada kalanya, ada baiknya merendah diri demi keselamatan negara sejagat.
The river is great
sadly majority of our fighter planes was downed without going through combat….. the planes itself might cost money… but sadly our commanders forgotten about the people behind the controller…. most of the young pilots died with the said accident…. sadly the culture of maintenance is lacking…. because of the lackey of foreign money…
SADLY … OUR AIRFORCE IS NOT ABLE TO PROJECT THE IMAGE OF RESPECT OR USE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPART KNOWLEDGE OF DISCIPLINE, COURAGE, FEARLESS AGAINST THE LACKEYS OF FOREIGN MONIES…. SADLY INDEED…
DEAR COMMANDERS OF THE FORCE… YOUR DISCIPLINE TEACH YOU THAT THE GOOD MUST OVERCOME THE BAD.. THE FEARLESS YOU IN FACING THE EVIL MUST BE UNLEASHED… YOU SAT ON THE EPITOME OF NON PARTICIPANT IN POLITIC… YOU ABLE TO SEE AND DIGEST WHAT THE LEADERS HAD DONE OR HAD NOT DO…. YOU THINK… AND FEEL …
FACE THE COURAGE TO ASK YOUR LEADER TO THINK… AT LEAST THIS IS WHAT “THE LAST FEW MEN” SHOULD DO. STAND UP BE COUNTED… NOT THROUGH MUSCLE BUT THROUGH INTELLECT…..
WE MUST CHANGE….. CHANGE WE MUST … DOWN WITH UMNO, MCA, MIC
Ayahanda Tun yang di kasehi, yang di kagumi, dan yang di sanjungi….
These are what I wanted to do last night during the annual dinner:
1. Shake your hand with my two hands, but I was holding a plaque in one hand so I could just shake you with one hand instead.
2. To say..”Terima Kasih Ayahanda Tun”…while shaking hand with you but there are so many people around to get an opportunity to see you in person, so I just have to keep that intention in my heart.
3. To kiss your hand, but kissing hand is too strange for me since my early age. I am so regret I didn’t push myself doing it to you although that is what I always want to do if I had a chance to meet you.
Terima kaseh Ayahanda Tun yang di kasehi, yang di kagumi, dan yang di sanjungi….!
Semoga Tun dan Tun Dr Siti Hasmah sentiasa beroleh kesihatan dan kerahmatan…
What is the worry?
While in the meantime, our Navy still learning how to use that 2subs.
So far, not sure what fish had these 2subs had caught?
Maybe a military exercise will be good to show that 2 subs, were doing submerge and surface (not surfacing at the moment).
In short term, I don’t think Malaysia will be threaten with war other than Bendera(from Indonesia).
Obviously, in SEA, only Singapore has the armoury and gadgets that is more superior than Malaysia in sense, but our rethoric has been, what are they…just a dot underneath Johor??!!
Technically, dont buy something that we cannot maintain.
Operationally, dont buy something that we cannot operate.
Financially, dont buy something we cannot afford to buy.
Politically, dont buy something we dont need yet.
kebanyakkan komen maklumbalas tentang perkara ini bolehlah saya simpulkan begini, ‘ramai tidak faham isu’…
1.kalau nak bercakap pasal pesawat fighter, kapal perang, kapal selam, kena tahu hanyat sebenar komponennya, kos up-gred dan pusat serantau dimana ia boleh dirujuk dan baik pulih.
2.ramai tidak faham justifikasi tentang pembelian ‘pada waktu semasa dibeli’. mana mana negara yg ingin membeli peralatan pertahan mesti mempertimbangkan ini; ia berkait rapat dengan doktrin atau falsafah pertahanan negara, kesesuaian geografi, kos selengara, apa kelebihan peralatan yg dibeli, keadaan ekonomi negara semasa dan 20 tahun mendatang, keadaan politik negara serantau dan mesti berkesiapsiagaan dengan peralatan yg setanding dengan apa yg negara jiran sekelilingnya ada.
cubalah kita ingat kembali kenapa dan apakah justifikasi negara kita sewaktu membeli pesawat pesawat tersebut dulu. saudara akan mendapati bahawa ianya sangat berbaloi dari segi konteks ketenteraan dan kesesuaian kemampuan maksimum negara kita pada waktu itu.
kita juga harus ingat bahawa jika kita membeli sebarang peralatan ketenteraan dari US, kita tidak akan dapat samasekali memperolehi keupayaan maksimum peralatan itu. sebagai contoh Indonesia dan Thailand, dua negara tersebut telah membeli pesawat pesawat fighter dari US dengan beberapa sekatan tertentu keatas pesawat tersebut. pesawat tersebut mereka beli dengan harga yg tetap mahal juga. jika Indonesia atau Thailand memiliki pilot yg paling handal didunia sekalipun dan jika mereka bertempur dengan US mengunakan pesawat model yg sama diudara dengan US, mereka tidak akan mampu menghempaskan walau sebuah pesawat fighter dari US! ini kerana sistem amaran jarak jauh yg menjadi kelebihan pesawat pesawat US tidak diberi kepada mereka. dari jarak jauh pesawat fighter Indonesia atau Thailand kena bom peluru berpandu pesawat fighter US dulu.. adakah berbaloi? mana boleh lawan tauke..
US sebagai ‘polis dunia’ telah seawal dari saat kita membeli telah merencanakan susun atur perjalanan perang sekiranya kita di asia tenggara ini berperang!!! begitulah juga sikap mereka terhadap negara negara Timur Tengah.. saudara jika kita bertempur diudara dengan jiran terdekat diseberang tambak sana mengunakan pesawat fighter sama seperti mereka, tentu saudara akan faham faham sendiri apa akan terjadi keputusanya nanti, kerana US menjual pesawat fighter kepada mereka dengan sedikit sekatan berbanding kita. mana boleh lawan sahabat uncle sam..
berbeza dengan sikap Rusia, mereka menjual peralatan ketenteraan dengan tanpa sebarang sekatan keupayaan maksimum sebenar sesuatu peralatan tersebut. pesawat fighter dari Rusia memang berbaloi dibeli dari segi harga jika dibandingkan dengan keupayaan keupayaan hebat yg ditawarkan, murah, ye murahhhh… tapi jangka hanyat selamat pengoperasian pesawat adalah 15 tahun, pendek berbanding pesawat pesawat fighter dari US yg boleh menjangkau 25 tahun!
maka, disinilah timbulnya isu atau perdebatan tentang kewajaran samaada pesawat pesawat Rusia yg kita beli dulu mahu kita lupus jual kepada negara ketiga dan beli pesawat lain atau kita membuat keputusan menaiktaraf pesawat pesawat fighter tersebut. kita tahu bahawa India merupakan rakan ataupun kita panggil wakil pusat sehenti segala pesawat fighter Rusia dirantau Asia. India merupakan pelanggan setia Rusia sejak dari zaman Kesatuan Soviet lagi, kerana musuh mereka, Pakistan adalah pelanggan setia US. perbalahan berterusan sehingga kehari ini antara India dan Pakistan telah menyebabkan India menjadi sangat begitu mahir dan memahami selok belok pengendalian dan baikpulih peralatan ketenteraan Rusia. malah, India mampu menghasilkan alat ganti mereka sendiri atas kebenaran Rusia, kerana telah lama mendapat kepercayaan Rusia. disini kita dapati kita mempunyai pilihan, tidak perlu hantar ke Rusia, pergi kepada India dengan kos naik taraf yg sangat berpatutan atau beli lain.. tahukah saudara, pergi ke India adalah pilihan semua negara Asia yg menggunakan pesawat fighter buatan Rusia?
untuk makluman, adalah benar fakta pesawat fighter F16/F18/F22 buatan US hanyat selamat pengoperasian adalah antara 15 tahun sehingga 25 tahun berbanding Rusia, tetapi harga sewaktu kita beli baru adalah sangat mahal. benar juga kos naik taraf selepas habis hanyat adalah murah sedikit berbanding pesawat fighter buatan Rusia. pesawat fighter buatan US memang canggih manggih, namun jangan kita lupa tentang pertimbangan memikirkan sekatan sekatan keupayaan maksimum sebenar peralatanya dari US jika kita membeli. jika kita beli sekadar guna buat operasi pemantauan je laaa.. kalau nak buat bertempur diudara dengan negara sekutu US diudara nun dihujung sana, takpayah, lari balik je, selamatkan nyawa pilot dan duit rakyat ratus ratus juta sebiji tu.. bukan takut, TAK BERBALOI. nak perang kena cerdik sikit. apa guna setakat bangga memiliki F22 sekalipun andai pesawat kita nanti pesawat tak cukup sifat, pesawat mandul??? apa guna setakat boleh main tembak tembak, keupayaan radar amaran jarak jauh tak deberi!!!
beralihlah kepada buatan Rusia. pesawat fighter mereka murah dibeli, meletup bertempur pun rasa berbaloi, perajurit negara tercinta kita pun akan rasa yakin kerana mengendalikan pesawat yg ‘jantan’ walaupun kurang canggih sikit je dari pesawat fighter buatan US. kalau perajurut negara terkorban pun biarlah berbaloi..
saya rasa sedikit kecewa kerana ramai yg tak faham bahawa semua pesawat tempur mana mana negara pun sebenarnya ada jangka hanyat selamat pengoperasian tertentu. seperti, mereka sekadar tahu injin jet sangat berkuasa namun, mereka tidak tahu dan faham bahawa gunalah logam apa sekalipun untuk dibuat injin jet, dalam tempoh tertentu bilah kipas jet lambat laun akan terhakis binaannya kerana haba dan seretan memotong udara dan partikel diudara. dan lagi seperti ini, mereka sekadar tahu bahawa badan pesawat fighter diperbuat dari logam namun, mereka tidak tahu dan faham bahawa setiap mata ‘revet’ yg melekatkan dikerangga pesawat itu adalah akan hilang kekuatan ikatan logamnya, lambat laun akan rapuh jika tidak diganti. begitu juga dengan rangka utama yg perlu diperiksa dalam tempoh tahun tertentu kerana setiap kali pesawat fighter dioperasikan daya gerak sentapan begitu kuat. dan semua peralatan elektronik, radar, hidraulik perlu dibuat pemeriksaan penyelarasan semula / calibration dalam tempoh tertentu demi tujuan keselamatan. mereka hanya tahu bercakap tanpa mengkaji apa benda ‘barang’ yg nak dicakapkan.
tapi satu perkara,off topic, sekiranya kerajaan telah memutuskan untuk membeli mana mana peralatan ketenteraan, bomba atau tren tren, bawalah sekali wakil pembangkang sewaktu proses pembelian. sori, saya meragui ketelusanya. bagilah pembangkang main peranan sikit..
Sure M’sia will not stand a chance against mighty forces like US, China and so forth but it does not mean we now must be defenseless and leave our fate to world police.
There can be many unforeseen circumstances whereby some kind of threat (smaller than US or China but a threat nonetheless) to M’sia that require our own defense, instead of waiting for world police to come our aid. What if so call world police decide not to intervene or busy? It is not unknown that world war did happen couple times and world police wld be very busy so we need to play our role a bit.
It may be unlikely so to have a war or world war but may be a good idea to have as much as we can what’s affordable. The question is how much is affordable for defense when so much needed elsewhere to build our economy when war is not yet expected – that we need people that run the country to justify. But let’s not jump into sudden conclusion to be totally naked defenseless, not yet.
Why shld we worry? Remember when we said tht USA manufacture machines of destruction? We are a middle country. We cannot compete with USA,Russia,China or Japan or even Korea. They have multiple times of our army or aircraft or anything offensive and therefore need not fight. We are, however, better than other countries like Cambodia or Myanmar. We are peace loving and I see spending money on Defence is wasteful.
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan..
[[Perang dan meneruskan kehidupan zaman sekarang adalah seperti saya teringat akan sepotong ayat Al-Quran yang bermaksud – akan sampai masa di mana umat manusia memerlukan kekayaan untuk menegakkan agama]]
Musato anda keterlaluan…Tidak ada ayat sebegini di dalam Al Quran.
Apabila kita memperkatakan tentang AL Quran mestilah amat berhati-hati..jika tidak tahu jangan hentam keromo dan berbuat sembrono..ok?
Tun..apabila kita memperkatakan sesuatu..sewajarnya kita memperkatakan…pada pendapat saya, setahu saya,saya di maklumkan bahawa,telah sampai kepada pengetahuan saya,mohon di maklumkan samada berita ini benar atau sebaliknya dan ayat-ayat yang sepertinya..
Bila kita berlaku cuai dan orang lain menyangka kita telah memberi satu fakta maka kesilapan yang timbul akibat kita memberikan fakta itu boleh jadi amat menyesalkan..Moga kita lebih berhati-hati dengan apa yang kita dengar,tulis dan perkatakan sebagaimana riwayat satu atsar yang menyatakan..
Cukuplah menjadi satu kejahatan bagi seorang muslim apabila ia menyebarkan sesuatu yang ianya tidak pasti kesahihan beritanya..
Dan dari Ayat AL Quran..
“Janganlah kamu memperkatakan sesuatu yang kamu tiada pengetahuan tentangnya kerana setiap pendengaran,penglihatan dan hati semua akan di pertanggungjawabkan..”
Kembali kepada upgrade MIG…Tun setahu saya pesawat terbang bukanlah macam pesawat dan enjin jenis-jenis lain.Amat berisiko tinggi untuk upgrade mana-mana pesawat terbang..Persoalan samaada sesuatu pesawat itu ‘airworthy’ atau tidak ‘feasible’ atau tidak,’viable’ atau tidak..kita serahkan kepada pakar-pakar yang terlibat dan berkenaan..
Cuma pada pendapat saya,memadai kita ada “single squadron of super aces pilot” yang bertanggungjawab untuk membuat rondaan ruang udara dan maritime.Skuadron ini mesti di bantu oleh attack chopper yang ‘complementary’ kepada sistem sedia ada.Bak kata seorang ‘military strategies’..
At the end of the day..weeks..month..years..
It is the infantry that are going to win you the war..
An damn those strategies..those strings are pulled by..
Politician!!
Terima kasih Tun..
Good morning Ayahanda Tun,
From MI…..
1. Dr M calls Suaram foreign lackey
By Asrul Hadi Abdullah Sani December 09, 2010
2. BUKIT JALIL, Dec 9
Salam Tun,
For all those bloggers who think defense spending is a waste of money, please think again. Remember Argentina and Britain; they were so buddy buddy that Britain sold warships to Argentina. Two years later they were killing each other.
It might seem that we have no credible threat to our sovereignty at the moment but please remember an old Latin saying; si vis pacem, para bellum – if you want peace, prepare for war.
Salam
Assalamualaikum,
Tun, ini isu yang tidak kena dengan topik Tun di atas. Tapi, saya nak cakap juga. Wakil rakyat yang nak dipilih nanti janganlah lagi pilih Datuk Yasir tu. Tukar aje orang baru, muda yang mempunyai keinginan untuk membangunkan parit baru menjadi lebih maju berbanding sebelumnya.
Apa yang menghairankan, kenapa bangsa Melayu yang apabila terpilih di mana-mana tempat waima di kampung sendiri berubah sikapnya? Malah, mereka juga menjauhkan diri dari bertemu muka dengan penduduk kampung malah sukar untuk ditemui dan mengadu masalah. Seolah-olah penduduk kampung begitu kotor dan miskin berbanding mereka. Walhal amanah dan kuasa diberikan kepada wakil rakyat untuk mewakili suara orang kampung yang memerlukan bantuan. Yang menariknya, selepas sahaja terpilih menjadi wakil rakyat, terus berpindah ke bandar. Jadi, siapa yang akan membela nasib orang kampung?
Saya ingin mencadangkan agar diwujudkan satu saluran komunikasi untuk penduduk mmenyalurkan masalah mereka misalnya menerusi sms, talian hangat atau pun email. Namun, hakikat bahawa orang kampung tetap orang kampung. Perasaan teruja dan lebih mesra menerusi pertemuan secara bersemuka adalah lebih digemari.
Persoalannya sekarang, apakah pihak kerajaan tidak berminat menjengah ke kampung ini dan kampung di sekitarnya untuk bertanya khabar dan memperbaiki masalah yang wujud? Apakah hanya menunggu di saat hampir pilihanraya baru wakil-wakil kerajaan mahu menunjukkan muka dan menurap mana-mana jalan yang berlubang? Malah, kini jalan dari Kg Teluk Rhu menuju kg Parit Baru sudah senget sebelah dan bertampal merata-rata. Adakah alasan bahawa kawasan tersebut merupakan kawasan timbun maka ia tidak boleh diperbaiki? Jika inilah alasan yang akan digunakan, penulis terus terang menyatakan ini merupakan alasan yang dah ‘basi’ kerana hampir 20 tahun penulis mendengar alasan tersebut. Jika kawasan lombong boleh dibangunkan menjadi pusat membeli belah seperti The Mines dan Sunway Lagoon, ini kan pula tanah timbun.
Apa ukuran sebenar yang boleh penduduk kampung gunakan untuk mengukur tahap keberkesanan wakil rakyat di sesebuah kawasan? Jika kejayaan cemerlang peperiksaan UPSR sekolah adalah kerana keupayaan guru besar yang mentadbir dengan cemerlang, adakah ini juga boleh dijadikan kayu pengukur untuk wakil rakyat di sesebuah kawasan?
Penduduk kampung Parit Baru AMAT memerlukan lampu jalan yang telah bertahun dipohon sejak sekian lama, namun sehingga kini masih lagi belum menjadi kenyataan. Jalan-jalan di kampung Sungai Tengar, Sungai Air Tawar semua terang apabila malam menjelma, namun sebaik-baik sampai di kampung Parit Baru hanya suasana gelap gelita sahaja yang ada. Bayangkan jika ada orang yang menaiki basikal atau pun babi sekeluarga melintas jalan, tidakkah aniaya pemandu kenderaan dibuatnya di tengah kepekatan malam. Pilihanraya demi pilihanraya berlalu, namun lampu jalan masih lagi tidak kunjung tiba di sebalik semua janji-jani manis.
Berdasarkan trend sejak dahulu lagi, selepas seminggu pilihanraya maka jalan-jalan di kampung akan mula berlubang-lubang kembali dan senget sebelah selepas kerajaan/parti pembangkang berjaya memenangi kerusi pilihanraya. Maka penduduk kampung akan meneruskan kehidupan dengan masalah mereka sedia ada dan menunggu lagi untuk tempoh 5 tahun untuk memangkah pihak yang mampu menjaga kebajikan mereka dan penduduk setempat itupun jika umur mereka cukup panjang dan waras akal fikirannya. Begitulah nasib penduduk kampung yang sudah tua dan tidak bermaya hanya kerap diberikan janji-janji manis untuk mengaut undi. Umpama sudah habis manis, sepah dibuang.
Sekian,
Maa
Salam Tun.
Just wondering….bukan ke time MIG dibeli dahulu sebuah syarikat ditubuhkan untuk menjadi syarikat yang akan buat semua maintainence terhadap semua MIG jet. Takan dah lebih 10 tahun syarikat ini tahu cuma buat parachute untuk MIG je. Se tau saya german beli MIG dari Poland dan Upgrade MIG tersebut. Tak bolehkah kita buat semua ni. takan rosak sikit. frame nak kena hantar pi Rusia. payah lah camni.
I have some knowledge about this issue. Most of the military aircraft in India are old ones. Even though they upgrade it, they are still old air-crafts. Therefore, some of it have technical faults which causes the aircraft to crash. The components inside the military air-crafts would have worn out. That is why in India, the rates of military air-crafts crashes are very high because they are flying old junks! After that, their Ministry of Defense might blame the pilot for the crash and pilot becomes the scapegoat!
Details of the air-crafts involved:-
Sukhoi-30MKI
Introduced 27 September 2002
old junk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30MKI
MiG-29
Introduced August 1983
Another old junk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29
Sukhoi Su-30
First flight 31 December 1989
Introduction 1996
old junk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30
You said
“I wonder whether there is a threat of war currently.”
I ask you back this question.
So you want the Malaysian government to receive a threat of war before buying new air-crafts or weapons?
By then, it would be too late! The country would have been attacked and conquered by enemy soldiers. When it comes National security, we cannot take things for granted! We must be prepared before a threat of war or a breach of security takes place! If the enemies’ military air-crafts are far more superior and high-tech, how would the Malaysian air force apprehend the enemies’ air-crafts?
If our Malaysian air force fly old junks, then the enemies’ air-crafts would again advantage over ours! Maybe our Malaysian air-crafts would be wiped out within minutes by enemies air-crafts which might be far more superior and high-tech. Anyway, I feel that the American manufactured military air-crafts can out manoeuvre their Russian manufactured counterparts because the American government spend a lot of money in war industry compared to Russia. That is why they are always one step ahead in everything!
You please send me your feedback. TQ.
My e-mail address is [email protected]
hi tun..love u so much…..
saye ade request, boleh tak tun jelaskan serba sedikit yang tun tahu pasal free mason dan seangkatan dengannya..plz..
Salam Tun,
I have to disagree with you this time. The MIGs are no longer economical for us to operate. The best option is to sell the MIGs back to the Russian as a buy-back package to purchase 6 MKMs in return. Other option is to retired the MIGs and the Hornets then sell back the Hornets to the boeing as a buy-back package to buy 18 Super Hornets in return. I believe that I may not be as smart as you, but the worrying situation in the South China Sea especially to defend our claim on the Spratly Island against several nation including the Chinese, we need to boost our defence capability in every aspects by procuring many defensive equipment for the country. But, I believe that this is not our main priority and we should concentrate on other thing first.
My suggestion is, apart from upgrading the MIGs, we should instead buy an AWACS or AEW&C platform to act as the eye in sky for our fighter fleet. Without this very vital assets, our fighter aircraft cannot operate effectively. Apart from that, our navy need a large fleet of patrol vessels to patrol our very large water area. In the foreseeable future, we, the local defense scene observer would suggest that the govt should procure the Multi Purpose Support Ship which is very useful in time of peace and war and more patrol vessels to patrol out water.
I hope you will read my just 2 cents thought here. Thank You Tun for every amazing thing you did for this country during your premiership as the country Prime Minister.
-Syameer Firdaus
(http://syameer.blogspot.com)
Assalamualaikum w.b.t
Dear Tun,
The hidden war that we are waging with others are getting visible day by day. The only thing kept us at status quo is our capabilities of showing military prowess. Thus, the extension of our military forces are necessary.
By the way Tun, I have recently observed our university students culture and it’s getting worse by the days. The common mind of modern university students are getting more pragmatic. They do not need to know things that are not of sudden use to them. They only want to know information that are relevant for their upcoming exam. Thus, the quality of knowledgeable students seems to drop day by day. We do not have universities, what we have are only factories producing common stock doctors, engineers and others that we do not need.
Please Tun, do comment on this issue.
Thanks…
Assalamualaikum Tun,
In my humble opinion,
1. A leap in a country defence budget sometimes will also lead to an arm race in the region which will destabilise intra-regional relationship. On the other hand an unbalance defence spending regionally will also lead to insecurity of the lesser ones. We sure don
salam kasih buat tun sekeluarga..
1.bajet utk pertahanan patut di kecilkan.
2.sy setuju dgn cadangan menaiktaraf, bukan membeli.
3.cukup sekadar ada pertahanan.
4.tidak perlu terlalu canggih sbb kos yg mahal.
5.krn strategi lebih penting jika diserang.
sekadar pendapat..
Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruang..
Aha..Mr Parameswara 2..now you are really out of your depth here in this posting..:)
Contrary to Jaquar believes that Malaysia could not survives ‘dog fight’ with Singaporean or even American and Israelis fighter pilots,it is the attrition that will bogs Malaysian pilot down and not the massive air superiority..
Remember the War of Britain in World War 2??
Any airstrikes must be decisively precise and overwhelming the enemies,blanketing and plundering them to the oblivion..The key word is
Engagement..
The output
Neutralization.
It is pointless debating in Tun blog something of this magnitude.We are akin to “politik kedai kopi”..:)All smokes and fired up..All dressed up but nowhere to go..We could not impacted any meaning outcome in our debates but makes the coffeshop owner smiling ear to ear..
But for the sake of amusing ourselves and for self entertainment, I offers you some insight when I was officially trained in Royal Malaysian Airforce..
It is the man that makes the machine..
Not the machine that makes the man..
I am most definitely not Da man…:)
Terima kasih Tun..
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Bila sebut pasal perang,teringat peristiwa sejak zaman Rasulullah s.a.w sampai pada empayar Baghdad Abbassiyah,Turki Kamal Attartuk,Perang Dunia ke-2 dan kuasa dunia sekarang,United State of America.
Perang adalah keputusan yang bukan mudah.Rasulullah s.a.w sendiri tidak akan sekali-kali berpaling kebelakang apabila menuju ke medan perang.Apatah lagi apabila sudah menyarung pakaian perang,pasti tidak akan ditanggalkan.
Ini menunjukkan perbahasan tentang perang adalah berada pada tahap yang tinggi.Begitu juga dengan tasawuf.Terdapat perbahasan yang di luar pemahaman awam serta juga terdapat perkara yang tak perlu dibahaskan.
Perang dan meneruskan kehidupan zaman sekarang adalah seperti saya teringat akan sepotong ayat Al-Quran yang bermaksud – akan sampai masa di mana umat manusia memerlukan kekayaan untuk menegakkan agama.
Tidaklah salah sekiranya saya juga bertawassul kerana untuk melihat kekayaan bagi menegakkan agama,yang tidak menjadikan kita hamba kepada harta.
Terima kasih Tun.
better upgrade the land troopers e.g SAM. airforce only useful on air. on the ground it is useless. Six Days War 1967 proven that even though Mesir own the latest of the Russian.
we can never win any air combat only with 10 sukhois…
Salam Tun,
Why bother buying new aircraft when we can upgrade?
Why bother having an Air Force when we can’t even match Singapore (perceived) air superiority?
Why bother having the military when we are at peace?
Why bother fight when we can be slaves right?
Saya menyokong pasukan tentera. Bajet pertahanan sepatutnya ditambah /dikekalkan mengikut peratusan GDP negara setanding dengan negara jiran. Aset-aset pertahanan juga perlu ditambah supaya setanding dengan mereka. Mungkin nampak membazir kalau dilihat secara kasar, tetapi kemerdekaan kita perlu ada yang mempertahankan.
Sarip memetik “In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace.”(Sun Tzu Art of War). Sokong 100%. Lihat sejarah lampau, macamana Melaka dijajah atau bagaimana Kedah hilang P Pinang misalnya.
Adakah tidak mungkin konflik bersenjata berlaku antara satu negara dengan negara lain? Tidakkah ada kemungkinan satu negara yang bilamana merasakan dirinya gah, kuat, perkasa dengan aset persenjataan terhebat, terkini dan tercanggih menjadi ego, bongkak dan mula menekan negara2 lain? (Hitler bila menawan Poland dan memulakan Perang Dunia Kedua, Saddam bila menawan Kuwait, Serbia bila menyerang Croatia, Bosnia).
Maaf, lari topik tapi saya meluat dengan komen mereka yang tidak faham tentang keperluan pertahanan negara dan sering mempertikaikan pembelian kapal selam, jet pejuang, helikopter Combat Search And Rescue, etc. Asyik2 lebih baik wang itu digunakan untuk rakyat, kita berperang dengan siapa sebenarnya dll.
Bajet untuk keperluan pertahanan patut dicantaskah? Sekiranya kita upgrade, negara lain pun upgrade jadi tak guna kita upgrade dari mula… Yakah? Jadi tentera kita hanya perlu raifal dan meriam sahajalah? Tak perlu beli kapal selam, membazir. Tak perlu beli jet pejuang, tak mungkin boleh menang Singapore yang ada ratus2 pesawat jadi buat apa buang duit? Beli helikopter CSAR harga bilion2? Buat apa? Guna NURI tak bolehkah? Atau heli lain tak boleh terima tembakan kombat dan survive sampai ke pengkalankah? Tak ada lagi murahkah. Yang 2nd hand tak adakah?
Kan kita boleh gunakan taktik perang gerila macam vietnam, kan boleh menang juga akhirnya. Atau kalau dah tahu kita tak boleh menang, buat apa kita menentang? Kan bagus kalau kita mengalah sahaja?
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
Ministry concerned should fully alert of this
Totally agree with you Tun, Salam Alikum semua.
Don’t waste our taxpayer’s money buying new fighter aircrafts. It would never churn local business. Aircraft and weapon producers will benefit.
Get prepared for currency war…… what are the weapons used in the currency war? I donno coz I am not prepared. We use to have the Ringgit fixed…it works as we manage to come out of the economic slowdown.
Tun, during 1997/98 currency crisis you went to meet Suharto many times, apa yang Tun discuss dengan Suharto?
Assalamualaikum.
Saya setuju dengan pendapat Tun dan juga pendapat jaguar.
Perbelanjaan untuk pertahanan Negara adalah salah satu keutamaan dalam perancangan belanjawan kerajaan. Jika pertahanan Negara lemah, kita akan gagal mempertahankan aset negara seperti pelantar minyak dan juga kawasan perikanan Negara. Namun begitu perbelanjaan pertahanan hendaklah kurang daripada perbelanjaan pembangunan dan juga pendidikan.
Kerajaan juga mungkin boleh memikirkan untuk mengeluarkan peralatan pertahanan sendiri seperti yang cuba diterokai oleh Deftech dan BHIC.
Kemenangan dalam peperangan bukanlah sangat bergantung kepada peralatan ketenteraan canggih tetapi yang lebih utama semangat para pejuang itu sendiri. Jika anggota tentera kita sanggup berjuang ketitisan darah terakhir kerana mempertahankan AGAMA, Bangsa dan Negara, INSYAALLAH kita akan menang seperti yang dicatatkan dalam sejarah. Kesetiaan warganegara yang akan menentang sebarang cubaan membawa masuk kuasa asinglah yang menyelamatkan dan memenangkan Negara daripada kecanggihan peralatan tentera. Lihatlah Iraq dan Vietnam untuk memahami keadaan ini.
Kerajaan rasa saya sepatutnya sanggup berbelanja lebih untuk menanamkan semangat patriotik dikalangan pemuda dan lebih-lebih lagi untuk mengelakan mereka daripada menjadi hamba dadah dan segala macam anasir yang tidak sihat dari segi moral dan akhlak. Pemuda yang baik akan menjadikan Negara ini aman makmur, berdaya saing dan maju. Hendaklah kita hidup dengan harmoni antara kaum dan bersama-sama mempertahankan dan memajukan Negara ini. Saya ingin bertanya kepada sesiapa yang merasakan Tun menyeleweng kekayaan Negara semasa beliau menjadi PM, adakah anda boleh menahan diri jika berada dikedudukan beliau? Adakah kehidupan anda tidak pernah melakukan kesalahan ataupun kesilapan? Saya rasa buanglah sifat buruk sangka itu kerana ianya akar kepada perasaan dengki dan tamak yang amat buruk itu.
Sediakan payung sebelum hujan.Supaya nanti bila suda darurat ..dapat bersedia dengan lebih awal
Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
Fully agreed with Tun’s suggestion to go for upgrade option. What possible war threat are we facing? Where are they coming from? As I can see, none. Must get our priorities right. We should clear up the threats from within; poverty, social decline, infrastructure, transportation etc.
Purchases of weapons will only enrich the weapon manufacturers based in countries that will purposely create and maintain world instability as a global strategy for others to be heavily dependent on them, modern time colonisation strategy. We must get out that scenerio.
Study may perhaps indicate the corellation between increased war threats or provocation to create possible wars in any hot-spots in the world in order to boost their weapon industries to support their declining economy. We should not fall into that trap.
Just think of it. Korean issue will not be solved, so are the rest; Khasmir (India/Pakistan), Middle-east to include Israel/Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, Central America etc. Why do you think Singapore need so much high-tech weapons? For defence? from whom?
The most important thing for Malaysia is to keep our people remain united, leaving in peace, harmony & properity. That’s the true strength of a nation. For that, Malaysia need leaderships with high integrity, great wisdom and people caring.
May Allah bless us all.
salam tun..
1. idea yang baik dimana keupayaan pesawat tersebut dapat dipertingkatkan.
2. pesawat-pesawat tersebut adalah diantara yang setanding dengan keluaran pesawat negara-negara barat dan amerika syarikat.
3. mungkin ada yang tidak mengetahui kelebihan pesawat tersebut iaitu sukhoi yang mampu bertindak balas dengan pesawat pejuang F16.
4. dengan ini ia dapat mengimbangi kekuatan pertahanan negara jiran yang diketahui mempunyai pesawat yang tidak kurang hebatnya seperti F16.
5. tidak ada gunanya mempunyai pesawat pejuang yang hanya boleh digunakan untuk pameran dan juga latihan sahaja.
6. semoga tun diberkati usia dan dapat memberi nasihat serta idea-idea yang berguna untuk semua.
SALAM BUAT TUN BERDUA MOGA DIRAHMATI ALLAH S.W.T
1) SEORANG PENTADBIR YANG BAIK TERUTAMA SEKALI JIKA INGIN BERURUSAN MENGUNAKAN WANG RAKYAT PERLULAH PANDAI DALAM TUKARAN WANG ASING SUPAYA TAHU NILAIAN SUPAYA TIDAK KERUGIAN.
2) MISALAN SEKARANG NILAI ‘DOLLAR’ YANG JATUH, ADAKAH HARGA BARANGAN NEGARA AMERIKA MURAH ? SUDAH TENTU MURAH KALAU WANG NEGARA PEMBELI SAMA DENGAN NILAI ‘DOLLAR’. KENAPA SAMA KITA PATUT BELI BUKAN MASA NILAI KITA TINGGI. SEBAB KITA MENGGUNAKAN ‘DOLLAR’.
3) LEBIH ELOK URUSAN JUAL BELI INI DIRAHSIAKAN DARIPADA PENYANGAK MATA WANG. TETAPI DALAM DUNIA TAMPA SEMPADAN SEKARANG PENJUAL ITU SENDIRI BOLEH JADI PEMBELI MATA WANG ATAU BROKER MATA WANG. SEBAB ITU KADANG-KADANG BERBAGAI HELAH DILAKUKAN UNTUK MELAMBAT-LAMBATKAN PENJUALAN.
4) SEPATUTNYA MENTERI ITU DIWAKILI OLEH KETUA-KETUA KEWANGAN ATAU MEREKA YANG BOLEH MENGUBAH NILAI RINGGIT SERTA MERTA SUPAYA DAPAT MENGUBAH DALAM TEMPOH 24 JAM NILAI RINGGIT MALAYSIA BERBANDING ‘DOLLAR’ AMERIKA.
5) UNTUK MEMBELI TIDAK BOLEH DENGAN KUASA VETO YANG ADA PADA MENTERI TETAPI PERLUKAN PENERANGAN UNTUK MENGATASI KERUGIAN OLEH PERDAGANGAN MATA WANG. BARULAH RAKYAT TAHU TIADA PEMBAZIRAN YANG KEMUDIAN HARI BOLEH MEMBEBANKAN RAKYAT BILA KERAJAAN KEKURANGAN WANG.
6) PENDAPAT TUN KEPADA PENYELENGGARAN SAHAJA ADALAH JALAN SELAMAT KALAU GOLONGAN YANG MENGUTARAKAN PENDAPAT UNTUK MEMBELI TIDAK DAPAT MEMBERI JAMINAN KEPADA KERUGIAN WANG NEGARA DAN AKAN LEBIH BAIK LAGI KALAU SESUATU PENDAPAT ITU DISUSULI AKAN APA KEPENTINGAN KEPADA NEGARA SECARA HITAM PUTIH MELALUI PERJANJIAN YANG BERUNDANG-UNDANG.
WALLAHU’ALAM
Dearest Tun
1-I don’t understand if there really is a need for nations to waste unnecessary money to purchase all these overpriced machines that are usually only deployed for training purposes only, as wars if any, will usually be from the initiatives of the world police America.
2-All the great wars of the world in the 20th century has the involvement of America to fight keep democracy away from the evil forces of communism and now Axis of evil mainly muslim terrorism.So if Russia wants to attack us,then the USA will come to our defense..so why do we need these costly machines at all.
3-Now should the USA decide to attack you,well you don’t need to upgrade at all and waste more money,all you need to do is just sit back and enjoy their shock and awe.They are just no match for us.They have weapons of mass destruction we will not be allowed to have.
4-Other nations won’t dare to bully other nations for fear of this world police, remember like what happen to Iraq when they invaded Kuwait or like how North Korea now may be in trouble for their acts of aggression against South Korea.
5-So do we really need these costly war machines to only enrich the manufacturers and impoverished our people unnecessarily knowing we have this self proclaim world police to keep this planet safe and free?
6-But what happen if the nation that may be our threat is a good friend of America?Will America come to our rescue?Or will any amount of upgrade help us against this friend of America that can also rely on America for more support?
7-I think Malaysia’s only real war threat may only come from Singapore should we decide to do something that they perceive may jeorpadize their future economic survival and hence their national survival.Like the Jembatan Bengkok perhaps.
8-Don’t ASEAN have a joint-military cooperation to make use of whatever military might they have to safeguard jointly the region against any aggression.Or is it not about time to fight all out to restore the power to UN as the only body to justify or authorise wars and punish these erring nations.Let us allow the USA to retire from this policing job to focus on their messy economy.
9-I think let us not waste money for upgrading these overpriced aircrafts that is only usually used for trainings,Merdeka day processions or to officiate world class events like the F1 races..when the money could be put to better use of the rakyat.
10-But I guess the real decision to upgrade or not will depend on how convincing the aircraft salesman is to influence the man in power.Their salesman is not any ordinary salesman….
Thanks Tun.
Dear Tun,
When do you think Malaysia will be able to develop the technology to upgrade these Fighter Jets and build our own military helicopters?
It is high time we work towards these goals.
Stay Healthy Sir.
Salam Tun,
Always support you!!! 🙂
True,why spend the money when it is a token air force. The Indian version of Sukhoi-30MKI does has a higher thrust vector and can manuever with the best of the F16’s. But then again, it is simply better training, avionics and technology that wins the air war nowadays. The pilot who detects first, lock-on and fires first accurately wins. The days of dogfights are long gone as close combat is a thing of the past. A plane can get blown to bits without even seeing each other miles away. Malaysia is only kidding itself when it only has less than 30 fighter planes. Attrition, lack of parts and maintenance will cause the Malaysian Air Force to last only a day or two in real combat. Your planes do not have enough AAM’s and radar detection capability to stop a real threat. Malaysia can maybe stop Brunei or Cambodia and it can’t even match Singapore or Thailand AF. It is better to invest in ground to air missles with a sophiscated radar detection network. This will be much cheaper and easier to maintain and manufacture.
Salam Tun,
i think the situation is slightly precarious what with recent leaks and the shift in balance of superpowers, coupled with developments in middle eastern politics as well as asian and south east asian events and others.
but i am confident the great civil minds and societies the world will prevail and take charge to prevent wars, and further unnecessary spending or investment in the millitiary industrial complex.
ironically, much of the science and technology we use today do come from the millitiary. but it does not mean that that is the formula or the absolute way to progress.
there is no proof that civil scientists and technologist worldwide cannot provide the world with exrtemely high quality, humane and sustainable solutions for the human civilisation. there is less need to conduct research and development in “highly secured” areas. in other words, there is less need to make more destructive weapons, or indeed even to make more weapons at all. what can we possibly hope to achieve by making it more and more efficient to kill people ?
a war free world is not a necessarily a happy or problem free world. life itself, and nature, forces us to meet extreme challenges just to sustain life.
my 10sens worth.
A’kum
Tun, what about all of the f-18 that we bought
Shouldn’t we upgrade it too? Or at least get the code of the “bomb launcher” rather than wasting it just for training only
We should do something about that first or it is such a wasteful money to invest and to be burn
Just food for thought Tun, no offense
TQ
Salam Tun
semoga tun sekeluarga sihat sejahtera..
Teruskan menggunakan buatan Russia..say no to USA..
Salam,
Malaysia’s military spending has always been questionable in terms of requirement and budgets. Everyone is aware that it has always been mainly to line the already fat and overflowing pockets of politicians and their cronies. It’s not like we really need fighter jets and submarines. If war were to break out, would we even be able to hold out against even Singapore? I doubt it very much, what say you?
It would seem that all these people (politicians and their cronies) believe that they can take the billions they have squandered into the their graves when they eventually die someday. Tak kan dah songlap duit rakyat beratus billion selama berpuluh puluh tahun “memerintah” tak cukup cukup lagi kot. Enough is enough…
Dear Dr M,
Today is a very sad and infuriating day for loyal, tax paying Malaysians. For today, the non-appreciate Malaysian government has announced that it has launched a 10-year resident pass for highly skilled expatriates for those who were originally from Malaysia but are no longer citizens. The link to the news is as per below.
http://business.asiaone.com/Business/News/Office/Story/A1Story20101208-251521.html
I have no problems to make the process easier for highly skilled expats to live and work in Malaysia. This is a perquisite to make the country excel, and it
Salam bahagia Tun.
Sometimes the common folks like us would think very hard to understand why the MOD or Government made such purchases of warfare equipments that cost billions to buy, and then millions further just to maintain them.
Malaysia recently joined the elite Navy world with the acquisition of two Scorpene submarines. Nevermind if the submarines are operational or not, but the question here is do we actually need them? Will the submarines be a more potent deterent to any rogue foreign armies or countries?
But before we dwell in the reasons of what should and what’s not to purchase, we need to have an understanding of the political situations of our neighbors because any threat that come from this region would be from some rogue armies of these countries in wanting to change the world or making a political stand. At the moment, there is no threat of political instability or any formidable warfare equipments that Malaysia is not able to counter with.
If I may Tun, if the cost of upgrading the MIGs are high, why not consider purchasing attack helicopters instead? A squadron of Apaches attack helicopters would be the most ideal air defence for Malaysia’s geographical condition. Its VTOL versatility and packed fire power will be a good deterent to would be threats from any countries.
Nevertheless, it is in the interest of the country to ensure that it has the neccessary defence equipment to protect the country’s boundary and interest from any threat whether in-land or from outsiders.
But I do not see how the Scorpenes could be a deterent tool?
salam bahagia.
Agreed! Pls proceed. Rgds
Seriously Sir
Who is Malaysian Constant threats , that Msia needs constant upgrade of Military equipment, by that i do mean that just use old archaic equipment.
1/2 the time most of these purchases, go in with “fat ” built in to serve admirals, dep sec , deputy minister and ministers. Seriously there should be a real through check by
independent parties on Defense forces accounts and all purchases
totaling more than RM 1 million is investigated , i can almost bet that it is rock bed of corruption…opps Current Pm is former defense minister…i got to ask to take this back haven’t i?
I really challenge you sir the paragon of virtue and prudent spending to ask for such a commisson..
If there is no purchasing, means . no commisions . as the Scorphane submarines . So we must try an effort to buy anthing that we cam get commission
By HBT on December 8, 2010 3:52 PM
Dear Ayahanda Tun,
1. Published: Wednesday December 8, 2010 MYT 2:30:00 PM
Updated: Wednesday December 8, 2010 MYT 2:49:27 PM
No intention to question non-Malays’ patriotism: Zahid
By YUEN MEIKENG
2. KUALA LUMPUR: Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said he did not mean to hurt the feelings of any race when he cited a lack of patriotism as one of the reasons for the small number of non-Malays in the army.
3. He said he also did not intend to question the patriotism of non-Malays in the country.
4. “History has proven that national heroes who fought against communists and British invaders consisted of Indians, Chinese, Kadazan, Serani and so on,” he said in his ministerial statement at the Dewan Rakyat on Wednesday.
5. “I am sad if my answer to the Parliament on Nov 9 has upset others.”
6. He urged political party leaders, non-governmental organisations and youth movements to work together with the Government to increase the participation of non-bumiputras in the army to make the 1Malaysia concept a success.
7. Dr Ahmad Zahid, however, did not apologise when M. Kulasegaran (DAP-Ipoh Barat) asked him to do so.
8. On Nov 9, Dr Ahmad Zahid told Parliament that non-Malays made up less than 1% of new recruits in the armed forces for the 2008/2009 session.
9. He said this was possibly due to a “sense of patriotism that is not strong enough” the fear of the strict discipline in the Malaysian Armed Forces and less attractive pay compared to the offer from the private sector.
10. Other possible reasons he cited included lack of encouragement from family members and less encouragement to join the armed forces because of the various prejudices.
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11. PM: Boost army intake of non-Malays by liaising with NGOs
12. Cabinet to attract non-Malays to armed forces
13. Muhyiddin: Zahid needs to explain his recent remarks
14. Zahid: I was only exploring the possibilities
15. Lack of patriotism among reasons for lack of non-Malays in armed forces
Comments:
A. Even teenagers across multi-races are advised not to participate national defence services in MOD because the civil servants in this sector are perceived as only interest to upgrade or make purchases of ” how much can you offer me by ‘price mark-up
Salam TUN dan semua
Setuju TUN …saya rasa membazir la kalau berbelanja banyak kepada pertahanan. Tapi susah nak cakap juga, tiba tiba singapura serang macamana nak lawan kalau tidak ada persenjataan yang lengkap. Bukan boleh percaya sangat dengan LKY ni.
Satu hal lagi adalah sampai bila kita tidak tahu bahawa persenjataan kita itu memadai atau tidak? Kita upgrade, diaorang pun turut upgrade..kita beli dia orang pun beli…pakai tak juga..last last buang atau jual lelong.
Kalau macam korea selatan, iran, korea utara, palestin dan israel memang patutpun sebab banyak orang gila nak serang dan orang gila nak berkuasa.
sekadar pandangan
http://pantausblog.blogspot.com
Threat of war is everywhere. PM of South Korea is coming to Malaysia to lobby for our support. I hope the North Korean won’t retaliate. Say no to war please.