PEMBUNUHAN WANITA BERZINA

1. Akhbar melaporkan seorang wanita Afghan ditembak mati kerana didapati bersalah dengan kesalahan berzina.

2. Ia telah dibicara satu jam dan dihukum bunuh. Dengan serta merta ia dibawa keluar, duduk ditepi longkang dengan memberi belakang kepada pembunuhnya.

3. Pembunuh bersenjata senapang mesingan menembaknya berkali-kali dengan dilihat oleh ramai lelaki yang bertepuk sorak perlakuan pembunuhan itu.

4. Badan wanita itu terguling selepas ditembak. Semua kejadian ini dirakam dengan video, termasuk bacaan Quran sebelum tembakan kononnya berkenaan jenayah zina. Tidak disebut nasib lelaki yang berzina dengannya.

5. Saya hanya ingin menarik perhatian kepada peristiwa ini. Saya ingin dengar komen pelawat ke blog saya.

108 thoughts on “PEMBUNUHAN WANITA BERZINA”

  1. Salaam Tun,

    To Sudin….. I am not what you think I am. I always view fellow humans with kindness, and also all the creations of Allah are to be respected.

    When I asked you not to call me ‘Thambi’ it is because the way you mention sounds not proper. You can call me Thambi if you talk to me in Tamil. When you write in English you should use an English word and so too when you are using the Malay language, then you should do that too. You sound provocative in the language you use.

    I wish you well and hope that you feel the same way too.

    When we discuss some topics, we should be more civil and not being angry. And also try to verify if what is said make sense or not. But from my observation is that you do not or refuse to understand what is said by us.

    ‘Besides the truth, what else but falsehood ?’ (Quran). God never err but humans always do. When our prophet (Muhammad) came, he brought no other book but only the Quran and he told us to follow ONLY the Quran. Is that difficult to understand? Follow the Words of God (Quran), the Living the Eternal.

    Thank you Tun. God Bless

  2. Tun

    May I..
    //BubblesSeptember 4, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink
    Salam Tun,
    …..Quran 33: 56 ” Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace.”
    ALLAH do not need us to tell him to confer his blessings on the Prophet !! ALLAH do not need us to tell him what to do!
    The reason ALLAH commanded us to do so is because ALLAH want us to show our gratitude to the Prophet (s.a.w) for bringing to us the final message from ALLAH, and to keep the special bond between the Prophet and his ummah alive at all times!..//

    1-I think you have quoted surah al Ahzab a no of times already to justify your salawat.And I think all of us ‘sesat’ people have tried to explain about the context of this surah just as numerous but either you have never read our comments or your mind is blocked completely.

    2-Mungkin Tuan mahu merenung dan mempertimbang komen hidden secrets didalam post ini August 16, 2012 at 2:12 tentang isu selawat ini lagi sekali.

    3-Baru baru ini saya telah menghadiri upacara akad nikah anak saudara saya di Johor elok habis saja acara, Tok kadi minta semua berselawat keatas nabi,berselawat lah mereka sambil bersalam2an sambil berpeluk2an anatara satu sama lain.Kemudian diwaktu petangnya bila rombongan lelaki sudah sampai untuk khenduri lagi sekali mereka membaca selawat berulang sampailah rombongan dah duduk di tempat masing2.

    4-Apa ertinya semua ini ? Untok mengingati nabi yang MEMBAWA AlQuran kepada kita? Mengapakah mereka berselawat keatas nabi dan bukan berzikir dan mengucap terima kasih kepada Allah yang telah MEMBERI kitab itu pada kita? Allah hanya diingati supaya beliau memberi salam kepada Rasulullah..

    5-Sejak beberapa abad kita juga berselawat keatas nabi secara sistematik didalam solat kita.Siapakah yang mengajarnya?Adakah rasulullah mengajarnya?Adakah rasulullah juga berselawat untuk dirinya sendiri?

    6-Kalau rasulullah cuma mengingati Allah didalam solatnya mengapakah kita tidak mengikuti solat nabi kita?Bukan kah Nabi datang untuk menjadi ‘model’ kita?

    7-Tahukah anda siapa yang sebenarnya mengajar kita berselawat keatas nabi didalam solat? Kalau nak tahu saya boleh beritahu.

    8-Kita tidak mengatakan kita betul atau awak salah.Anda pun tahu banyak hadis yang palsu apakah tidak mungkin hadis yang menganjurkan selawat ini juga palsu.Kajilah apa saja dengan hati yang terbuka dan pilih pandangan yang terbaik(surah AzZumar) semoga kita mendapat petunjuk.

    9-Kalau yakin 100% tidak ada apa salahnya dengan selawat ini buat sajalah seperti yang dah diamalkan.Allah SWT pun tahu kami cuma menyampaikan pandangan kami dengan ikhlas.Kalau ada hujah yang baik untuk menyokong berselawat, manalah tahu tuan sendiri boleh selamatkan aqidah kami seandainya tak berselawat hukumnya shirik.

    10-Tuan2 berbaik sangkalah dengan kami. Demi Allah SWT yang maha pengasih dan penyayang kami ikhlas dan jujur dengan pandangan kami,dan kami tidak mewakili musuh2 Islam atau ajen zionis ke,sapa2 ke yg coba merosakkan aqidah sesiapa.

    Terima kasih.

  3. Salam Tun.

    I wish to refer to abdulazizomar (30/08/12 @7:20pm).

    Your statement, “To Sudin I would like to ask him to refrain from calling names like Thambi or what to someone else. Are we related by blood? I am not of the Indian origin.”
    has made others to realise that you are a racist and seeking for glamour.

    When ‘dtan’ referred ‘Iskandar Shah 2’ as ‘Bro Iskandar’ the latter seems to feel obliged. In fact Iskandar Shah 2 referred back to dtan as ‘bro’ as well.
    I’ll be most surprised if you are to refuse or become angry to anyone referring you as ‘bro abdulazizomar’.
    Of course ‘thambi’ is not glamorous. Even some Indians choose to refer ‘bro’ among themselves instead of thambi.

    Since this is the second time you’ve tried to stop me referring you as ‘thambi’, you’ve shown to everyone that you’re a racist. I see no other reason that an Indian equivalent to ‘bro or brother’, which is English, is preferred.
    Your preference of an English namesake and rejected/angry when a similar meaning Indian word is used on you put you as a racist of the high order.

    Do not try to preach and mislead other readers when you have this deep racist feeling within you!

    The damage which you & gang could possibly or have already caused to THE MUSLIM WORLD is limitless!
    When you purportedly preach those unlawful narrow-minded belief and to continuously trying to cause uncertainties & ambiguities on Islamic matters, which is not just irresponsible, but all the kafirs are laughing and making questionable remarks about Islam.

    I do not wish to speculate who and how much you’re paid by those kafirs to purposely create friction and/or misunderstanding among Muslims, which you will undoubtedly deny. For once, stop being a coward and let’s resolve the whole issue with a proper discussion, face to face.

  4. Assallammualaikumwarahmatullahiwabarokatuh..
    Tun semoga sudi mengizinkan ucapan terima kasih saya kepada Tuan Bubbles..
    Thank you very much sir for your kind consideration..
    “Apabila kamu diberi penghormatan dengan sesuatu penghormatan, maka balaslah penghormatan itu dengan yang lebih baik dari padanya, atau balaslah penghormatan itu (dengan yang serupa). Sesungguhnya Allah memperhitungankan segala sesuatu.” (Qs. An Nisa: 86)
    Mr Bubbles..
    I am utmost sorry for unable to give you the considered respect.Nevertheless I am thanking you very much for defending hadith..Your good deeds means nothing to them but mean very much to us..
    Keep doing the good job sir..
    I would like very much to correspond with you..
    Please consider my request…:)
    Thank you.
    Terima kasih Tun.

  5. Salam Tun,

    We are still in month of Shawal so I guess it is not too late to wish you and your family ‘Selamat Hari Raya Aidil Fitri dan Maaf Zahir Batin’. I also wish to extend this greetings to all our Muslim brothers and sisters especially to Bro Wajaperak.

    Tun, comments I had sent earlier were censored… I respect your decision. I hope this one will go through.

    Abdul Aziz Omar :
    “When some of our friends said about ‘Anti-Muhammadan’ it does not mean anti Muhammad, it means anti those who take Muhammad as their ‘god’, unconsciously. Like the Christians name themselves with the name of Christ (Isa). We are Muslims and not Muhammadans like some of you.

    Quran 33: 56 ” Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace.”

    ALLAH do not need us to tell him to confer his blessings on the Prophet !! ALLAH do not need us to tell him what to do!
    The reason ALLAH commanded us to do so is because ALLAH want us to show our gratitude to the Prophet (s.a.w) for bringing to us the final message from ALLAH, and to keep the special bond between the Prophet and his ummah alive at all times!

    Abdul Aziz Omar :

    “When the Angels sujud to Adam, they were actually sujud to Allah because Allah commanded them to do it”

    So how does by giving selawat or asking ALLAH to confer his blessing on the Prophet make us Muhamadans !!
    Are we not just following ALLAH’s command just like the angels who followed ALLAH’s command to bow (show respect) to Adam (a.s).
    Incidently, you did not mention that Iblis refused to obey ALLAH’s command, he rather be banished than to bow (show respect) to Adam (a.s). Are you not doing the same thing here??

  6. May peace be upon u abdulazizomar,

    Thank you for bringing me in your discussion on hadith. Just like a person who is made a defendant in a legal action, I have no choice but to respond 🙂

    On your comments, on “muhammadan and muslim”, I personally don’t think its that important for discussion (others may differ) as islam needs to be practised as opposed to being put as labels. So I’ll stop there 🙂

    In 44:59, Allah said: “O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.”

    On your discussion on the status of hadith as a source of law, I firmly disagree i.e. I do believe hadith as a source of law AND as example of how we conduct our daily affairs. But, I do agree with you that hadiths can NEVER contradict the Quran. Any of the so-called “hadith” that contradicts the Quran is in fact not hadith and MUST be rejected. As for your point that “Hadiths could easily misguide the believers and can be very lethal and poisonous to our correct understanding of the religion of Muhammad”, I don’t think you are correct to say that. The reason is that a lot of the times, what the prophet say or do must always be understood in the context at the time. Just like the Quran, some hadiths are can be applied literally, and some cannot. That is the role of the Ulama’ i.e. they can be consulted on the validly of such hadith and the context behind it before we make up our mind and follow them. It is not an excuse for muslim make a decision whether or not to follow them just because we do not understand them.

    I do not know what you have discussed with the others in this post about “hadith explaining the quran”, but some hadiths do explain the Quran but not all. Some verses in the Quran are very clear and can be read literally while some must be read and understood based the context. Some hadiths are there based on the general principles based on the Quran. But no hadith/sunnah of the Prophet can ever contradict the Quran.

    On your challenge to show me that “the Quran is not enough without the Hadiths”… If we are psychic enough to know everything, then yes it is enough. There are principles behind those verses in the Quran. The hadiths may provide elaborations on those principles. On that challenge, I can think of one i.e. the eating of fish. I hope those who “rejects hadith” don’t eat fish because IF we follow 5:1-3, eating fish will surely be haram. It is only the hadith that allows us to eat fish 🙂 Even the description of how the lashes are not in the Quran, but the hadith provides further details 🙂 Without the hadith, people may be misconceived to lash convicts using the lashes that is carried out currently in Malaysia. One lash “malaysian style” will ruin and tear your skin apart. Can we imagine if we lash 100 times? That is why I really do not understand why some people think Hudud is barbaric or cruel.

    On the hadith on punishment for zina which I have quoted, I admit there are khilafs in whether the stoning can be considered as Hudud or taa’zir. The reason for the khilaf is because the Quran only provides for 100 lashes and only the hadith provides for stoning. Personally, since I accept hadith as a source of law, the punishment should be based on whether the offender is married or not. There is a reason for the the harsher punishment for married persons who committed zina as opposed to those we are not married. Islam place a lot of weight in preserving the sanctity of marriage and family. Zina committed by a married person is serious as it adversely affects his/her married partner. For unmarried person, it is likely that there will be no “victim”. Thus, the verse on 100 lashes can be distinguished from the application on stoning. It is contradictory to the Quran as there is valid reasoning for the introduction of stoning. And I have never encountered the Hadith ‘Bersikap sombong terhadap yang angkuh adalah satu sadekah’. Such hadith does not sound like Islam to me (unless its quoted out of context) and thus, it can be rejected. That is my opinion 🙂

    On the issue on amputation as punishment for theft, I disagree with you as the the context in which 5:38 is “amputation” but for verse 12:31 is “cut leaving a mark/scar”. Similarly verse. 5:33 also refers to amputation. We have to read the passage based on the Arabic language according to how an arab would read it. Translations of the Quran can sometimes be misleading, but it does not mean that we cannot use it as a source of law 😉 I believe u know that not all thefts are punishable by amputation based on plenty of sound hadiths.

    For the record, the Quran is not the words of the prophet. It is the word of God uttered through the mouth of the prophet in a language known to man. Whether you believe in hadith or not, I have no doubt it is our obligation to spread His word. There are passages in the Quran like 3:132, 4:69, 4:80, 4:115, 47:34 and etc where Allah commanded Muslims to obey Allah and the Prophet and thus, we must also follow his examples too. None of his examples can ever contradict the Quran. Whether the narration on his examples by his companions and other scholars are correct, false or weak is a separate issue.

    As for the rest of the issues, I don’t think it is addressed to me, so I leave it to the others to answer.

    May peace be upon u all.

  7. Salaam Tun,

    To fzal, zulkiflee and Sudin…… I would like to clear some points that you have brought in this forum.

    When some of our friends said about ‘Anti-Muhammadan’ it does not mean anti Muhammad, it means anti those who take Muhammad as their ‘god’, unconsciously. Like the Christians name themselves with the name of Christ (Isa). We are Muslims and not Muhammadans like some of you.

    And when we say that we do not believe in the Hadiths, that means that we do not take them (hadiths) to be a source of law in our declaration of faith in God’s religion. The Hadiths are alright as long as you do not take them to be a guiding light. As I have said earlier that Hadiths could easily misguide the believers and can be very be very lethal and poisonous to our correct understanding of the religion of Muhammad. They are simply (and proven) to be very misleading. Some Hadiths, though sounds very innocent could still be very wrong.

    Many Hadiths contradicts the Quran. I challenge you to show me that the Quran is not enough without the Hadiths. You people like to say that the Hadiths explain the Quran, while Allah (Quran) repeatedly says that Quran is fully detailed and enough for you!! Like the story (Hadiths) mentioned by fzal about the Prophet’s punishment to that woman who did the zina. That Hadiths just cannot be true, because it is contradictory to the Quran. And also the Hadith that you mentioned ‘Bersikap sombong terhadap yang angkuh adalah satu sadekah’. This also cannot be true, since the Quran ask you to forgive those who are different from you.

    The punishment for thief is never cutting the hand or hands (according to the Quran). ‘The thief, male or female, you shall mark (cut???) their hands as a punishment for their crime, and to serve as an example from God. God is Almighty , Most Wise’ (Quran 5:38). The same words are used in 12: 31 regarding the story of Nabi Yusuf ‘…When they (the women) saw him (Yusuf), they so admired him, that they cut their hands……’ . So do you think that those women really could possibly cut their own hands???? So the lessons here is to ‘mark’ the hands and not cut them !!!! Also if you count the surah and verses numbers of 5:38 and 12:31 the sum is the same.

    When the Angels sujud to Adam, they were actually sujud to Allah because Allah commanded them to do it.

    Also about doing the solat while walking or riding is found in the Quran 2:239 ‘Under unusual circumstances (fear of something), you may pray while walking or riding.’…..

    To Sudin I would like to ask him to refrain from calling names like Thambi or what to someone else. Are we related by blood? I am not of the Indian origin. For sure I am not your brother except in humanity.

    When our Prophet (the final prophet) brought the Quran to the world, the people of his time refused to believe him. When you say you love the Prophet, how could you say that you do not agree with him (Quran). ‘You have no other mission, but to deliver the Quran (message)….’ 3:20;5:67;13:40;15:57-65; and many more.

    Thank you Tun.

  8. May peace be upon you sudin,

    Thanks for your comments on my views. Like I said, I don’t consider myself an ulama’ so if there is anything I said that contradicts the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet, consider them taken back.

    On your presumption that I have already concluded it to be a case of “wrongly accussed”, that depends on what you mean by “wrongly accussed”. If you mean, “I already concluded that he was not guilty but still accussed, then NO your presumption is wrong. But, if you say that I have concluded that the accusation itself is wrong in the eyes of Islam, then YES your presumption is correct.

    With regards to evidence, since Islam requires a very high standard of proof as stated in my earlier post. If the judge wasn’t convinced under our current law of evidence, I surely doubt he will be convicted under islamic law of evidence.

    I beg to differ on your statement saying that the vast majority of the people thought otherwise. Quoting something we think is from the majority cannot be acceptable as I have my friends thinking that he is not guilty too. Besides, the right and just decision does not and should not depend on what the majority thinks. And to say that a person lies in court is serious accussation as lying in court is a serious contempt. If you have proof, please show it to me. I’m always prepared to change my mind if you can provide me the reasons for doing so.

    You see, Rasulullah SAW have taught us how to deal with adulterers. Someone who committed adultery came to him and asked him to carry out the punishment. Rasulullah made efforts and tried to avoid him as Islam is not really a religion that focuses on the punishment. He asked the adulterer to go away as Islam is not a religion that requires us to confess our sins to saints, rulers or prophets. Islam is a religion that allows us to repent straight to Allah. Tak boleh juga, rasullulah tanya macam2 untuk sedapkan hati baginda yang pesalah tersebut tidak sebenarnya melakukan perkara tersebut. “boleh jadi raba-raba sahaja”, “boleh jadi cium sahaja” etc. but the offender insisted that he did commit such an offence and Rasullullah had to carry out the punishment. That is no where near what happen in the case of Anwar.

    On your question on “what will be the punishment for those who don’t know the actual situation however choose to blindly support Anwar if truthfully he actually did those things? They can be categorised as being in collusion with Anwar!”, I am not sure what is the punishment for that honestly. Some of them are too fanatical because of their political ideologies. For me, that is really not relevant here. I couldn’t care less what his supporters say. They are not the judiciary. The prosecution failed to prove the case and thus Anwar is innocent. Whether he really did those acts, I don’t know and I don’t really care as its none of my business. Whatever he actually did is between him and Allah. Sebabnya the charge was “sodomy” with consent of the other (so its suka sama suka). I’m sure you and me as Muslims believe in Allah and the Day of Judgment right? The Quran says avoid suspicion, so why would I waste my time going against it 🙂

    So come, let us go back to the teachings of the Quran and the Prophet. Islam itu sangat indah. So lets make an effort individually to set the right environment so that the implementation of Hudud will not be questioned.

    May peace be upon you sudin.

  9. Salam Yang Dikasihi
    YAB Tun Dr Mahathir.

    1. Lelaki dan wanita setuju makan sedap yang haram bersama-sama, tetapi wanita saja dihukum tembak.

    2. Ternampak seperti ‘trend’ terkini pulak, kerana di negara kita pun ada orang lelaki yang terbela diatas penzinaannya.

    Wallahu’alam

  10. Peace be upon u, mr amin tan.

    Yes, I have read the constitution. Ok. Let’s talk about the issue on the use of the name “Allah”. Firstly, there is nothing in the constitution that says non-muslims are prohibited from preaching their religion to Muslims. Its not under our constitution, but under state legislation 🙂

    Secondly, there is nothing wrong with using the word “Allah” as a name by a non-Muslim. We have to remember that he is the one and only. The three “abrahamic” religion originated from the fact that He is the one one true god. It is the christian concept of trinity is what is wrong according to us Muslims. We need to be able to distinguish that properly.

    Sometimes being to legalistic is not good for the muslims in Malaysia. I know we have statutes and the law but we have to look at it from a broader perspective. How can we attract non-Muslims if we ourselves are not convinced of our beliefs. It is wrong for us to equate their use of the word “Allah” as being an ulterior motive of converting muslims. And how a “non-muslim majority country” would react in a similar situation should not determine how we Muslims should react in such situation. Rasulullah and the Quran has taught us to have no prejudice and avoid suspicion! Kalau sayang Nabi, we have to follow cara nabi.

    There is too much prejudice going on instigated by Muslims ourselves. “Baca bible sikit, boleh jadi kristian”; “Minum air dari orang non-Muslims boleh jadi kristian”; … Ini semua perkara-perkara yang mengarut dan tak masuk akal. In fact, ia bertentangan dengan ajaran Islam itu sendiri.

    We Muslims have really got to move on and stop pointing fingers at others our own misfortunes. Instead of being paranoid about it, let’s look at ourselves first. We should prepare ourselves mentally for anything put before us. If we are worried that our children may get converted just because of this (though I think this is just us being paranoid tak tentu pasal), Islam tidak mengajar kita terima semua yang ada dalam sesuatu buku atau dilaman web secara bulat-bulat. Ini kerana tiada orang yang maksum seperti para rasul. Even the works of a grand mufti may be rejected on grounds that it contradicts the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet. Imam Shafie sendiri kata kalau ada sesuatu yang dikatakannya dalam kitabnya itu bercanggah dengan al-Quran dan Hadith, dia tarik balik kenyataan beliau yang bercanggah tersebut. Jadi atas sebab itu, it is our duty to educate our children to think before accepting anything blindly. For me, the name is really not an issue. It is their concept that is the problem. So, if we think their concept of God is wrong, it is our duty to educate ourselves and tell them that. But it is really not an excuse for us to ban a non-Muslim who believes that “Allah” is the name of God from using such a magnificent name. Lemah sangat ke Islam ni sampai kena ban here and there? I don’t think so. I don’t know how you think about it but Islam does not need such a “protection”. In fact, it is more damaging and embarrassing to have such a ban.

    So, come. lets go back to the way of the prophet. Educate ourselves and spread the word of Allah.

    May peace be upon you.

  11. Assalamualaikum Tun,
    Komen saya disini adalah berdasarkan pengalaman saya beberapa kali berulang alik ke Afghanistan dan pengamatan saya tentang rakyat Afghanistan.(sebab2 dan pengalaman saya akan kita bincangkan sekira berkesempatan)
    Saya hanya mahu menyentuh berkenaan video tersebut kerana hukum hudud telah dibincangkan dgn panjang lebar di sini.

    Video berkenaan diambil ketika pemerintahan Taliban dan perempuan tersebut dihukum oleh Taliban ketika itu. Saya rasa semua pernah dengar berkenaan kekejaman Taliban ketika memerintah Afghanistan. Atas alasan utk menegakkan Islam, mereka memaksa lelaki dan perempuan Afghan untuk mengikut Islam yang diinterpretasi oleh mereka. Contohnya, kaum lelaki yang mencukur janggut akan dipukul beramai2 dikhalayak ramai. Terdapat juga kes2 kaum perempuan dipotong hidung mereka kerana tidak mahu menutup muka. Perkara-perkara ini kadang-kadang dilakukan oleh kaum keluarga mereka sendiri atas tekanan pemerintah Taliban.

    Berkenaan dengan hukuman bunuh menggunakan AK 47 atas kesalahan berzina pula, ini mungkin Islam yang diinterpretasikan oleh mereka sendiri. Hukum hudud berkenaan zina yang kita sering dengar ialah 100 sebatan bagi mereka yang belum berkahwin dan rejam bagi mereka yang sudah berkahwin. Dan tidak adil sekiranya hukuman tersebut diklasifikasikan sebagai “Islamic”. Persoalan penting yang kita patut tanya diri kita ialah, apakah yang dikatakan ‘Islamik’? ( What is Islamic and what is not?)

    Di Afghanistan, walaupun hampir 100% rakyatnya Islam tetapi terdapat berpuluh2 puak dengan interpretasi berkenaan Islam mengikut kefahaman atau budaya mereka sendiri. Terdapat kawasan-kawasan di Afghanistan yang mana mereka adalah pengikut Syiah. Ada yang sujud diatas batu yang dibawa dari Karbala’. Ada yang hanya solat fardhu 3 kali sehari.
    Alhamdulillah kita di Malaysia dapat mengekang unsur2 seperti ini yang cuba dibawa oleh Ashaari dan lain2 unsur untuk memecahbelahkan orang-orang islam disini.

    Persoalan yang perlu kita tanya ialah, apakah motif sebenar video itu ditayangkan setelah bertahun2 berlaku. Adakah ia untuk mempamerkan kekejaman undang2 Islam atau ketidak adilan Islam terhadap kaum wanita?

    Apa yang pasti ialah, video tersebut telah berjaya menakutkan orang ramai dengan Islam atau mencetus “Islamophobia” dikalangan mereka yang tidak memahami Islam.

    Video tersebut juga adalah untuk mempamerkan yang negara2 barat telah berjaya membebaskan rakyat Afghanistan dari kekejaman dibawah pemerintahan Islam. (versi BBC)

    Penjajahan minda adalah penjajahan yang akan menghasilkan kejayaan yang besar. Oleh yang demikian dengan menaja demokrasi dan lain2 undang2 Barat, umat Islam akan meninggalkan Al Quran dan As Sunnah sebagai sumber rujukan mereka.

    Perpecahan dikalangan umat Islam atas berbezaan fahaman dan pendapat juga akan menjadikan jurang antara satu golongan dan golongan yang lain dlam Islam jauh antara satu sama lain. Jesteru itu, tidak akan ada penyatuan dalam Islam dan umat Islam akan menjadi lemah.

    Wassalam.

    *Utk makluman semua, rata2 di Afghanistan, mereka menjadikan Malaysia sebagai model negara yang mereka impikan.

  12. Salam.

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    Since some of the commentators of this blog would like to know on how the so-called ‘anti-hadith’ people observe their contact prayers (salat), those who would like to know may visit the following links as I could not possibly post all the content from the link into this blog :-

    http://submission.ws/pillars-of-islam-submission/contact-prayers-salat/how-to-perfomr-contact-prayers-salat.html

    http://submission.ws/pillars-of-islam-submission/contact-prayers-salat/mathematical-miracle-confirms-contact-prayers-salat.html

    Please note that I have no intention whatsoever to promote Submission to the visitors of this blog. It’s just that some people are curious to know how the so-called ‘anti hadith’ observe their contact prayers (salat) and the above links will help to provide good explanation regarding this matter.

    Rgds.

  13. Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    How do the so called ‘anti-hadis’ people observe their contact prayers (salat)?

    Before I continue, I would like to inform that THERE IS NO COMPLETE AND COMPREHENSIVE HADITH ON HOW TO PERFORM THE SUBUH, ZOHOT, AZAR, MAGHRIB, ISYA AND JUMAAT PRAYERS. If you don’t trust my statement, please verify it for yourself.

    This is how the so-called ‘anti-hadis’ people observe their contact prayers (salat) :-

    1. 1st they will chant the adhan.

    If you pray by yourself, an Adhan is not needed. The Adhan is usually observed when a group of people are ready to observe the prayer. One person stands up and utters the Adhan words, or chants them as follows:

    1.Allahu Akbar (God is great)
    2.Allahu Akbar (God is great)
    3. Allahu Akbar(God is great)
    4. Allahu Akbar.(God is great)
    5.Laa Elaaha Ella Allah (There is no god besides God).

    This is the correct adhan. It could be confirmed mathematically. It is impossible for me to present it here as this blog does not support certain format of data. You may witness the matemathical confirmation at submission dot ws.

    2. They will perform the ablution and their ablution is STRICTLY AS PER GOD’S COMMAND, STRICTLY AS PER [5:6] nothing more, nothing less. They will never wash their ears, forehead, nostrils, gargle their mouth etc. as their GOD never command them to do so. They will never follow any other command except their GOD’s commands.

    [5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) WASH YOUR FACES, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles. If you were unclean due to sexual orgasm, you shall bathe. If you are ill, or traveling, or had any digestive excretion (urinary, fecal, or gas), or had (sexual) contact with the women, and you cannot find water, you shall observe the dry ablution (Tayammum) by touching clean dry soil, then rubbing your faces and hands. GOD does not wish to make the religion difficult for you; He wishes to cleanse you and to perfect His blessing upon you, that you may be appreciative.

    3. They observe five daily contact prayers (salat) and a Congregational Prayer on Friday.

    The Dawn Prayer must be observed during two hours before sunrise (11:114, 24:58).

    The Noon Prayer is due when the sun declines from its highest point at noon (17:78).

    The Afternoon Prayer can be observed during the 3-4 hours preceding sunset (2:238).

    The Sunset Prayer becomes due after sunset (11:114).

    The Night Prayer can be observed after the twilight disappears from the sky (24:58).

    * The Friday noon congregational prayer is an obligatory duty upon every Submitting man and woman (62:9). Failure to observe the Friday Prayer is a gross offense.

    4. Their contact prayers (salat) could be confirmed mathematically. All the five contact prayers (salat) and the Friday Prayers, the movements and frequency of movements could all be confirmed mathematically. It is impossible for me to present them here as this blog dose not support certain format of data. You may witness the matemathical confirmation at submission dot ws.

    5. They do not mention any other name(s) except the name of GOD alone in their contact prayers (salat). They know that Abraham, Ismail, Moses, Jesus and all other prophets and messengers and their followers after Abraham also observe the contact prayers and these people cannot possibly mentioning Muhammad’s name in their contact prayers (salat).

    CHILDREN OF ISRAEL :-

    [2:83] We made a covenant with THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL: “You shall not worship except GOD. You shall honor your parents and regard the relatives, the orphans, and the poor. You shall treat the people amicably. You shall OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat).” But you turned away, except a few of you, and you became averse.

    [5:12] GOD had taken a covenant from the CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, and we raised among them twelve patriarchs. And GOD said, “I am with you, so long as you OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT), give the obligatory charity (Zakat), and believe in My messengers and respect them, and continue to lend GOD a loan of righteousness. I will then remit your sins, and admit you into gardens with flowing streams. Anyone who disbelieves after this, has indeed strayed off the right path.”

    JESUS :-

    [6:72] “And to OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT), and to reverence Him–He is the One before whom you will be summoned (for the reckoning).”

    [19:31] “He made me blessed wherever I go, and enjoined me to OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT) and the obligatory charity (Zakat) for as long as I live.

    ABRAHAM :-

    [14:37] “Our Lord, I have settled part of my family in this plantless valley, at Your Sacred House. Our Lord, they are to OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT), so let throngs of people converge upon them, and provide for them all kinds of fruits, that they may be appreciative.

    ISMAIL :-

    [19:55] He used to enjoin his family to observe the CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT) and the obligatory charity (Zakat); he was acceptable to his Lord.

    MOSES :-

    [20:14] “I am GOD; there is no other god beside Me. You shall worship Me alone, and OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT) to remember Me.

    LUQMAN :-

    [31:17] “O my son, you shall OBSERVE THE CONTACT PRAYERS (SALAT). You shall advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and remain steadfast in the face of adversity. These are the most honorable traits.

    All the above people (Abraham and sons, Ismail and sons, Jesus, Moses, Luqman, Children of Israel) observe the contact prayers (salat) before Muhammad exist.

    GOD willing, to be continued…

    Rgds.

  14. Salam Tun.

    Thank you to ‘fzal’ (24/08/2012 @12:45am) for the thorough explanation on zina and rape, which may not be agreeable to some with regard on certain clarifications. I wish to refer to your following statement,

    “As the main objective is to protect the innocent, Islam recognises that ‘accusing a particular person of rape or zina’ is a very serious crime to another human being (a clear example would be Anwar Ibrahim’s case on sodomy) and the punishments just for that is very severe. It is equivalent to a serious slander.”

    I beg to differ on the sodomy case against Anwar which I presume you have already concluded it to be a case of “wrongly accused”.
    Anwar was declared not guilty by the judge (when vast majority of people thought otherwise) simply because HIS CEMENT that was extracted from inside Saiful’s anus was not convincingly narrated or something like that. Even a series of ‘lies’ called technicalities that were presented by his defense lawyers seemingly could not prevent the guilty verdict against him, however the smart judge managed to nail that loophole to acquit him.

    As for the sodomy 1 case more than a decade ago, all the 9 different judges were fully together with the opinion/conclusion that Anwar sodomised Azizan (and others?) for which he was rightly sent to prison. But the judges were helpless to differ against the ‘blatant lies’ called ‘minute technicalities’ during the series of appeals.

    I fully concurred that such/similar accusation will result in severe punishment by Allah, but what will be the punishment for those who don’t know the actual situation however choose to blindly support Anwar if truthfully he actually did those things?
    They can be categorised as being in collusion with Anwar!

    In fact the hardcore supporters stoutly declared Anwar as not guilty before day 1 of court proceedings without knowing/having any details.
    How did they know Anwar never do those things?
    Are they continuously following every step of Anwar’s movement every hour of the day?

  15. Dear Tun,

    Please allow me to quote fzal
    //As a Muslim, I disagree with a number of the policies of the present Federal Government (though NOT ALL) as they are not compliant with Islam. With regards to the invasion of churches few months ago, I really do not condone such act as it is against the teachings of Islam. It is forbidden by the Quran and our Prophet. With regards the the use of the word “Allah” by Christians, there are no requirements in Islam that non-Muslims cannot use that name. Even the so-called “Malay agenda” is against the teachings of Islam. With regards to the reference of “islamic state” or “welfare state”, DAP and PAS have wasted a lot of time on this. A true Muslim should not really care what label we put for Malaysia. Islam is a way of life for people and does not require us to label a state/party/product as Islamic. It teaches individual accountability and fairness based on the Quran and teachings of the Prophet. What matters most for a Muslim is the aim for implementation of Hudud and the benefits derived from it and along the way in (i.e. in the process of) implementing it. All the teachings of Islam is actually for the welfare of humanity (Muslims and non-Muslims). Thus, if a ruler actually follows the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet (including implementing Hudud), Malaysia will become a welfare state.//

    Dear fzal,
    You must read the Malaysian constitution which clearly states that Christians or non muslims are not allowed to preach their religion to the the Muslims in Malaysia. The Malaysian Government is only enforcing the Malaysian law in Malaysia. Anybody who trangress or go against the law would be acted upon by the law enforcement authority.
    The use of the word ‘Allah’ only in the Malay version of the Bible has the ulterior motive of converting the Muslims in Malaysia which is against the law in Malaysia. Please ask this simple question to yourself. Why the word ‘Allah’ is not used in the English version as well. Try to use ‘Allah’ in the Bible in England and America and see what happens?

    amin tan

  16. I wrote this simply because I DO NOT think non-Muslims (and even plenty of Muslims) understand how Hudud actually works. That is why we are so afraid of it. So, here is my take on Hudud. I am prepared to RECONSIDER my position stated herein if they turn out to be incorrect. So read it, review it, criticize it any way you wish 🙂

    A. A DUTY OF MUSLIMS

    It is an obligation for every Muslim to uphold Hudud, whether they know it or not. Hudud is a big concern for Muslims. Some people may think that it is ok to go against implementing Hudud (and saying that you are not against Islam) but here a straight forward fact: anyone individual (whether he belongs with UMNO, MCA, MIC, PAS. DAP, PKR etc) who opposes the implementation of Hudud is actually opposing and against Islam. Personally, such person shall not get my vote PERIOD. Before we proceed with the implementation, please note that we have to understand how it actually works (minus all the misconception) and that a lot of measures must be done along the way. See below.

    B. APPLICATION FOR MUSLIMS AND NON-MUSLIMS

    I think anyone making general statements like “Hudud should be applicable only to Muslims” are just either being plain ignorant or lazy to think. I am sorry but I have to say such person is really creating confusion within society in saying such a thing. As a general rule, Hudud should be applicable to ALL (Muslims and non-Muslims). This is the truth and I am prepared to bet my life on it.

    BUT, notwithstanding its general application, we must first differentiate between crimes against God (which the punishments should not be applicable to non-Muslims) and crimes against humanity (which should be applicable to all). The difference lies in whether such crime would have adverse impact on another human being. Example, for theft or rape (having sexual intercourse without consent of the other) which leaves the victims with something less than what they previously have. The punishments for crimes against humanity such as this is applicable to non-Muslims too. In contrast, zina (sex by two consenting adults) or consuming alcohol, although forbidden by God may not be applicable to non-Muslims (depending on the circumstances i.e. if there are no “victims”). That being said, all these discussions saying that hudud will create unequal justice should not arise in the first place.

    C. BURDEN & STANDARD OF PROOF

    The implementation MUST ONLY be carried out after satisfying VERY STRICT requirements and when the appropriate environment is in place. In fact, the requirements are far more strict than what is required by our current law.

    As an example we cannot apply Hudud if we are using our current law of evidence (“beyond reasonable doubt” test). Critics (who are either worried of being convicted because they have actually committed these crimes, or because they are worried of being wrongfully convicted) must see that you don’t see people in Saudi Arabia walking around without hands (in the case of punishments for thefts). This is probably due to its deterrent effect and because Islam requires a very high burden of proof (i.e. “beyond shadow of a doubt”) when it comes to accepting evidence. Even the slightest doubt can get an accused person to be discharged from his case. This is very different from our current evidence law and from my perspective, when it comes to these requirements I think it is more just and fair than our current law. It clearly complies with the presumption of “innocent until proven guilty” which provides that a case must be proven without any doubt. What is the rationale for this in the eyes of Muslims? This is because we believe in God and the Day of Judgement after life. Truthfully, there will always be things that we just cannot know/ascertain with absolute certainty. Thus, Muslims believe that if a criminal gets away with his crime before he dies, and fails to repent for such crime, he will be accounted for it during the Day of Judgement. No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in this! So true Muslims are less worried about criminals not being convicted but are more worried if an innocent person is wrongfully convicted. Islam has its own system, criminal law and its own law of evidence etc which the ultimate aim is to protect the innocent (i.e. the accused and the victim). Clearly, we cannot be applying hudud using our current common law of evidence.

    As an example, in the case of zina (sex by consenting adults / adultery), there “is” a strict requirements that the person who accuses must bring four (4) reliable and worthy witnesses that actually saw the penis penetrating the vagina. Critics may argue that the requirement is very strict, but what is the reason for such a requirement? The reason is that conviction must be done with absolute certainty without doubt. If the accuser can provide other solid evidence of such crime, the judge may deem such evidence as equivalent to the testimony of 4 reliable witnesses and issue a conviction. Islam never restricts the use and application of science and technology in our daily lives. For me, this is not really a big issue.

    I also would also like to clear the misconception that is happening in another “Muslim” country where a woman came to the ruler to seek help because she was raped and she was punished for failing to bring 4 credible witnesses and for committing zina. This is NOT Islam. In actual fact, this requirement of “producing 4 credible witnesses” is NOT APPLICABLE in the case of rape as the offence is NOT between two consenting adults. Women who are raped do not have to produce 4 witnesses just to assert that she did not commit zina! Once she swears that it was committed without her consent, her word will be taken as a valid proof solely to to prevent her from being charged/punished for zina. With regards to proving rape, like any criminal case, there must be sufficient proof of the actus reus and the mens rea. It must be proven that the intercourse was done without the consent of the victim. Yes, statements by credible witnesses can be admitted. But of course again, we must understand that this does simply not mean that the crime cannot be proven by other means (like DNA test, photos, videos, admission of the accused and etc). Thanks to technology, we can! As the main objective is to protect the innocent, Islam recognises that “accusing a particular person of rape or zina” is a very serious crime to another human being (a clear example would be Anwar Ibrahim’s case on sodomy) and the punishments just for that is very severe. It is equivalent to a serious slander. “And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses – lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient,” (Surah An-Nur 24:4 – Translation by Yusuf Ali)

    If Hudud is applied, Anwar would not have had to go through all those painful suffering as he had to for many years before he was finally acquitted. What happened to him is an example of the injustice of our current system and Hudud provides the solution to the problem.

    D. RIGHT TO PARDON

    The right of pardon is more lenient in Islam, unlike in Malaysia where only the YDPA can pardon someone subject to certain “conditions”. This is another flaw in our system which Islam provides a solution. For CERTAIN crimes between the offender and the victim, the victim (or the victims dependants/ families) has the right to pardon. Islam teaches us to forgive. Though it is not an obligation to pardon the offender, but it is really recommended by the Quran and the Prophet. In effect, this gives the victims/his family the right to decide whether punishment should be carried or not (although they cannot determine what is the punishment to be carried out).

    E. SPYING IS FORBIDDEN

    “O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it…But fear Allah: For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.” (Surah Al-Hujurat 49:12 – Translation by Yusuf Ali).

    Based on the above, no one (including officials) should be allowed to spy on others to seek for proof for offences specifically against God such as zina and consuming alcohol. This is not like how it is being done by our officials – hari hari ronda tangkap khalwat. I am not disputing on the wrongfulness of the offence but spying is clearly NOT the Prophets way. As long as the crime does not affect the rights of others, whatever that is being done in private is between the individual and God. It is clearly not for the officials to spy whatmore humiliate anyone on live TV. Spying is clearly forbidden in Islam!

    F. COURTS SYSTEM

    Our adversarial style in courts has also got to change. I think when it comes to the lawyers and judges (politicias too) involved, they must do their job with honesty and integrity. Stop falsifying evidence and “putar belit” facts knowing that its untrue. In my opinion, we would be better off with the inquisitorial style where both parties seek the truth rather than focusing on winning.

    G. TAKZIR

    It must be noted that the Quran only provides for the punishments for the worst crimes but there are other petty crimes that can be punished at the discretion of the ruler. A person who is convicted of theft will not necessarily have his hand copped off if the amount of theft is so petty. It must exceed certain threshold (i.e. nisab) and thus what amounts to petty can be determined as a matter of law. In this kind of cases, other lenient and proportionate punishments to be determined by the lawmaker (called Takzir) can be carried out against the offender. We can even maintain the use of our Penal Code if the case falls under Taazir instead of Hudud. As you can see, integration between our “common law” and Hudud is actually possible.

    H. RIGHT ENVIRONMENT BEFORE PUNISHMENT

    As a Muslim, I believe that Hudud is suitable for all (past, present and future) without discrimination of ranks or position. Even after conviction, it is unjust (and I would say forbidden – scholars might disagree) for the courts to punish thieves who commit thefts because of their poverty when our top officials are involved in high profile corruption and gets away with it. Note the difference between conviction (to determined someone did the wrongful act) and punishment for such wrongful act. So before imposing the punishments on the rakyat, it should first be imposed on those corrupt officers upon conviction.

    Punishments cannot be carried out when the Government has failed to help reduce the burden of the people in their cost of living. This is where things like improvement in education, reduction in poverty, employment rates come into play. Prices of cars must go down. There is much to be done by the Government (PR or BN) before Hudud can fully be implemented. This is why I always say that Hudud is the destination, so many things will be done to ensure that the welfare of the people is taken care of before imposing any punishment. So everyone (Muslims and non-Muslims) must understand that even if Hudud is enacted, punishments cannot be taken if the Government has not provided a conducive environment for its implementation. Those punishments SHOULD BE the last of our concerns. We cannot do it in one shot and it has to be done in stages. Most important for Muslims is to work towards implementing Hudud a society that is caring having a just Government.

    I. SEVERE PUNISHMENTS.

    Ah yes, punishments (if a convict is sentenced) must be done in public and not in private as an example to potential offenders. Those fixed punishments are of course severe and I will not deny that. Here is the thing, a punishment that is not severe can’t really be called a punishment. This is a very simple logic of creating the deterrent effect. This is an example of how our society is becoming so weak. In the old days, we got smacked with a rotan for doing something wrong. Nowadays, if kids do something wrong, they get “grounded”. This clearly defies logic: Your kid did something wrong and you give them a bed to sleep and chill (some of them have playstations in their bedroom!). There is nothing wrong with giving severe punishments like rotan if they already know the consequence of their actions. Where is our logic, when we give repeated convicts more time for (a) shelter, (b) food, and (c) a place to regroup/strategise/recruit accomplices for future crimes? How long can the system withstand the growing prison population? When it starts to crack, you see convicts get lesser and lesser sentence. Logically if the criminal justice system is to deter crimes, punishment should get more severe especially if it gets rampant! All of this is paid by tax payers money. Talk about leakages! If Hudud is applied, we probably do not need any prison in the country.Then comes the question of proportionality of the punishment. This I admit is a tough issue and the debates on this will never end if no standard is set and followed. So what standard do we follow? As a Muslim, we believe in the 6 pillars of faith (“rukun iman”) i.e: (1) believe in God, (2) believe in the Angels, (3) believe in the Holy Books (including the Quran) (4) believe in the Prophets, (5) believe in the Day of Judgement and (6) believe in the Qada and Qadr (i.e. fate determined by God – some of which may be altered by our own conduct and some may not). No “muslim” is a muslim if he does not believe in all the above. As you can see, believing the the Quran is one of the critical elements of being a Muslim. The Quran is the word of God, a guide for all mankind. Just like when you buy appliances like washing machine or vacuum cleaner, it always comes with a manual. You might not read the manual and may still (or may not) be able to use such appliances but it is better for us to read the manual simply because it is directly from the manufacturer and there are things that you may not know about the product. Well, the Quran works in similar ways. God creates humans, and the Quran is the manual. It is false to say that the Quran is only for the Muslims. It is actually a manual for ALL (Muslims and non-Muslims) to inform us of the important things in life that are obvious and the things that are “not so obvious” or unknown. So back to the question of “what standard do we follow?”, Islam provides the solution. For those who don’t know, Hudud comes from the word “Hadd” which means limits. The fixed punishments in the Quran are examples set by God on the standards/limits to criminal punishments. So, if you ask me on whether we should follow the standards set by men (where in this case, we have a problem) or by the all-mighty who is the creator, I pick the latter.

    CONCLUSION

    Again, I wish to make it clear that those severe punishments that non-Muslims (and even Muslims who don’t understand Hudud) are so afraid of is in my opinion, one of the last things to be acted upon. After leaders who give bribes and engage in corrupt practices are justly punished; after we learn that it is NOT OK to defame anyone regardless of race, religion or status (whether for campaign purposes or press statements); when everyone has enough to eat (translated – cost of living becomes more bearable), then it is OK to enforce those severe punishments. Punishments cannot be carried out when the right environment is in place even if the law is enacted

    As a Muslim, I disagree with a number of the policies of the present Federal Government (though NOT ALL) as they are not compliant with Islam. With regards to the invasion of churches few months ago, I really do not condone such act as it is against the teachings of Islam. It is forbidden by the Quran and our Prophet. With regards the the use of the word “Allah” by Christians, there are no requirements in Islam that non-Muslims cannot use that name. Even the so-called “Malay agenda” is against the teachings of Islam. With regards to the reference of “islamic state” or “welfare state”, DAP and PAS have wasted a lot of time on this. A true Muslim should not really care what label we put for Malaysia. Islam is a way of life for people and does not require us to label a state/party/product as Islamic. It teaches individual accountability and fairness based on the Quran and teachings of the Prophet. What matters most for a Muslim is the aim for implementation of Hudud and the benefits derived from it and along the way in (i.e. in the process of) implementing it. All the teachings of Islam is actually for the welfare of humanity (Muslims and non-Muslims). Thus, if a ruler actually follows the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet (including implementing Hudud), Malaysia will become a welfare state.

    I have non-Muslims friends too, in fact, many of them. They are friends who I would die for if it is necessary to go against a Muslim ruler who is unjust and corrupt. Islam teaches us to be fair to all. Please do not take whatever done by any Muslim (whether he is a member of PAS, UMNO, PKR, Taliban etc) as solid proof that it is Islam. Islam is whatever that is in the Quran and taught by our Prophet Muhammad. Anyone who contradicts that cannot say themselves to be a true Muslim. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim or an extreme Muslim, you’re either a Muslim (by following the Quran and our Prophet) or you are not (by not following the Quran and our Prophet).

    Anyway, the above is what I have to say. In all honesty, this is actually a huge topic (there is too much misconception on it) which must be discussed and debated in great detail with the experts in order for us to have a much bigger understanding. I myself am still learning and would GLADLY RECONSIDER my position stated herein if they turn out to be incorrect. I’m sure scholars can come up with a longer and informative article. One good article on the misconceptions on Hudud that I can recommend for your reading: http://drmaza.com/home/?p=1624

    BACK TO YOUR POST

    With regards to your post, Imam Nawawi in his book “Gardens of the Righteous” quoted Imam Muslim who narrated Imran ibn Husain Khuza’ai who told that a woman from the Juhainah, who had become pregnant in consequence of adultery, came to the Holy Prophet and said: “Messenger of Allah, I have committed a capital offence, so direct to execution of the sentence”. The Holy Prophet sent for her guardian and said to him: “Treat her kindly and when she has delivered the baby, bring her back”. He did accordingly. Her clothes were secured around her and the sentence was directed to be carried out. She was accordingly stoned to death. The Prophet let the funeral prayers for her. Umar submitted: “Messenger of Allah, she had been guilty of adultery”. The Prophet answered: “She repented to the extent that if her repentance were to spread over seventy people of Medina, it would still suffice. Can there be a higher degree of repentance than that she laid down her life voluntarily to win the pleasure of Allah, the Lord of honour and glory?”. This is an example how our Prophet (1) separated the right and the wrong, (2) ensure that the right environment is in place before the execution of the punishment, while at the same time (3) treating the offender with respect and dignity.

    So, if the judge was satisfied beyond a shadow of a doubt that she did commit adultery (this includes proving who was the guy that was with her – see the part on burden and standard of proof above), then her conviction is justified. If not, it the conviction is NOT justified and thus is NOT within the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet.

    Upon conviction, it must be sentenced properly with dignity and respect. Based on the story you posted above, the way the punishment was carried out is CLEARLY NOT in accordance with the teachings of Quran and the prophet.

    Peace be upon you. Thank You 🙂

  17. Hukum hudud bagi pesalah zina yang masih belum berkahwin ialah sebat 100x, bagi yang sudah, rejam sampai mati.

    Adakah pasangan zina pun perlu dihukum sama? Maksud kalu nak hudud mesti ada 2 orang, itu tidak semestinya begitu. Dimasa lalu zina ini dilakukan secara sembunyi, tertutup, tak ada kamera canggih, tak ada CCTV, kalu dia tak ngaku orang tak tau. Jadi kes untuk dihukum pun melalui pengakuan, bukan tangkapan. Oleh itu yang mengaku sahajalah yang kena, dan yang pengaku itu tidak pula diberatkan untuk mendedahkan siapa pasangan zinanya.

    Selain dari itu hudud hanya untuk orang Islam. Seperti kes anak saidina Umar, pasangan zinanya yang berbangsa yahudi tidak dikenakan hukuman hudud.

    Jadi dari cerita di atas bolehlah kita buat andaian:-

    i) Pasangan zinanya bukan Islam;
    ii) hukuman dijalankan atas pengakuan wanita tersebut;

    Pasal tembak ganti rejam, itu saya tak tau.

  18. Salam Tun.

    To abdulazizomar ( aao) and followers.

    Please come and do solat Jumaat at Masjid Negara. You will find Muslims from Arab, China, Bosnia, India, Pakistan, USA, Africa, Europe, Indonesia, Bangladesh that constitute the various maghzab all do the solat Jumaat there.

    How come your brand new maghzab, the maghzab anti-Mohammadian or maghzab Quranic Islam as announced by MiddleAges, is exempted to do the solat Jumaat at a mosque?
    Or is it true that you & followers that formed the so-called anti-Mohammadian maghzab do your prayers just by having/doing the equivalent of thought only? Thambi aao & gang can do any solat while driving, while walking, while dating, or even while doing short call/long call?

    Maybe thambi aao can tell your followers, “you don’t have to eat, just think yourself as eating/having delicious meal will suffice to make your tummy full”!

    If you say/think that I’m wrong, then do tell us how you do the solat. I’m sure every Muslim are interested to know, especially if the solat movements are explained/described by the renowned abdulazizomar himself, the undisputed grand Imam/leader of maghzab anti-Mohammadian or maghzab Islamic Quran. We’ll be most honoured.
    Don’t let us start talking and calling out “hey thambi aao, you’re just like another duckling”.
    You know duckling, the bird that continuously make the quack quack quack noise?

  19. Salam Tun.

    I wish to refer to ‘MiddleAges’ (16/08/2012 @9:12pm).
    So pathetic , such ignorance.
    Making generalised assumptions/conclusions as though the equivalent to summarising a children bedtime storybook!

    Making an open admission,
    “….I am of course on the so called “anti-hadis” side. But this i think is not the right name.
    3. The right name or term perhaps should be anti-Mohamadian….(sic)”

    Astaghfirullahilazim.
    To call oneself a Muslim while simultaneously admitting to be against Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.
    To gladly represent abdulazizomar(aao) & followers when announcing the LOST GROUP be named “anti-Mohamadian”.
    To make unscrupulous assumption that there exists another Islamic group called “Mohamaddian Islam, who are not balanced”.
    Cepatlah bertaubat!

    I don’t know what is meant by anti-Mohamadian is “self balancing”.
    I don’t know what is meant by “.…Mohammadian Islam, who are not balanced (sic)”
    Nobody knows what is meant by “I suppose all this is too complex for the Mohammadians to handle, and so will not accept the Quranic Islam. There are more reasons it will not be accepted …(sic)”
    I’m affirmative everyone is scratching their head trying to figure out “And i think the Quranic group will not be able to proceed any further, such is the nature of it (sic).”

    Hey thambi aao & gang, mana awak jumpa budak dari zaman middleage ni?
    Budak sekolah kebangsaan abad 21 ini pun punyai IQ jauh lebih terror dari budak zaman middleage tu. Patutlah gelarkan diri sedemikian!

  20. Salam Tun.

    I wish to refer to abdulazizomar (aao) and his ‘followers’.

    There is similarity in their behaviour to dtan’s, that is, when cornered they will either change to different storyline or just pretend not to notice the negative and/or wrong facts thrown at them. They never like to answer queries!
    I’ve commented several times on their numerous entries, but never receive any answers at all from them other than to accuse me as crazy and the likes. I’ve even asked for a meeting with them at a time and place of their choice, but aao always gave illogical excuses to the extend that those excuses can be construed as an open lying!

    I just wish to reiterate here, there is no stopping anyone from making positive and fruitful discussions in Tun’s blogsite, however uncertainties and wrongful teachings on Islamic matters are totally unwarranted! They are “the enemies within” and thus the most dangerous lot!

    When aao tried to strengthen/emphasize his preachings by giving ridiculous examples from an article found at a garbage yard in India that stated a girl trying hard to correct a loose hair of a motherly figure during prayer, a father drawing a shoe that signifies that of prophet Muhammad’s and should be hung up at the doorway, his woeful followers just nodded!!

    I dearly hope to witness separately how aao and his followers do the solat and to observe the differences made by each of them, and to enquire separately from each of them on who taught them to make the solat movements since the al-Quran never mention the details.

  21. Asslamu’alaikum Tun,

    mohon izin mengulas abdulazizomar…..nama karpal singh lebih sesuai untuk anda pakai sebab kebijak-sanaan anda dalam memutar tafsir Al Quran setara dgn kebijak-sanaan karpal memutar undang-undang Negara ini.

    anda sudah mengambil pendirian menjadikan Al-Quran setaraf resepi McDonald,yg siapa pun tukang masak nya tidak akan menambah atau mengurangkan keenakkan juadah mereka.

    Al-Quran bagi anda sesuai ditafir oleh sesiapa saja yg cukup akal untuk menterjemah bahasa nya dari bahasa Arab.sedang kami beranggapan Al-Quran itu Kemuliaan nya sebagai Kalam Allah penuh dgn berbagai Rahsia,Mukjizat dan zillion macam hikmah yg tidak akan mampu kita hitung satu-persatu.

    anda bermula sebagai orang yg sesat.kini iblis sudah pun bersarang di hati anda.walaupun anda berlagak bagaikan mempertahankan Al-Quran,namun anda sekelian secara perlahan-lahan tapi pasti telahpun meninggalkan Al-Quran.

    Al-Quran,untuk pengetahuan anda,adalah jauh lebih kompleks dari kemampuan anda berfikir.satu-satu nya jalan memahami Al-Quran ialah dgn cara menghayati nya.faham kah anda apa maksud ‘menghayati’ Al-Quran?

    secara ringkas,maksud ‘menghayati’ bererti ‘menghidupkan’.dan menghidupkan Al-Quran bermula dgn memuliakan Al-Quran.dan untuk memuliakan Al-Quran saja ada seribu satu macam ilmu mengenai nya.

    dari sekadar suci dan berwudu’ hingga lah kpd kefasihan dalam bahasa Al-Quran,tahu dgn jelas sebab dan tempat disebalik turun nya sesuatu Ayat kisah-kisah disebalik nya atau pengajaran jelas yg diambil dari nya,ini semua adalah asas-asas penting untuk menghidupkan Al-Quran didalam diri kita.

    ada Hadis Qudsi dimana Allah Subhanaullah Ta’ala mengatakan selangkah yg kita ambil untuk mendekati Nya,maka Allah akan mengambil dua langkah pula mendatangi kita.

    sayang nya,Hadis yg seindah inipun anda tolak.jadi jgn hairan kalau keberkatan pengetahuan anda hanya datang dari syaitan yg terkutuk.

    anda bercakap tentang Sholawat dgn agak panjang.tapi apa yg anda tahu Sholawat? membantu? menyokong? mendorong? teruk sungguh kefahaman anda.

    apa pendapat anak tentang Nabi Ibrahim a.s?

    kalau memakai cara anda memahami Al-Quran,Nabi Ibrahim a.s melakukan 3 dosa besar ketika Baginda a.s ketika

    1) meninggalkan isteri dan bayi nya di Mekah,tanah tandus yg tidak berpenghuni.

    2) berniat membunuh satu-satu nya anak yg Baginda a.s ada ketika menyembelih Nabi Ismail a.s

    3) kes pertama ‘child-labourer’ ketika mengajak anak nya membangunkan Kaabah.

    kami Umat Islam mempunyai kefahaman yg bersih terhadap Nabi Ibrahim a.s.nama nya bererti ‘bapa yg penyayang’.tidak mungkin akan meninggalkan anak-isteri nya di bumi yg tandus tidak berpenghuni atas sebab yg bukan kerana Allah.

    anti-hadis atau anti-Islam,untuk mendebat anda adalah perbuatan yg sia-sia.sebab hati dan otak anda telah ditutup mati dari memahami Al-Quran.anda mengambil jalan-pintas dgn menolak Hadis dan hak Rasulullah s.a.w sebagai ‘walking-Quran’,maka Allah pun mengambil jalan-pintal,iaitu memintal pemikiran anda bergulung-gulung,agama sekadar teori yg diperdebatkan saja.

    bukan amalan.bukan ikutan.bukan Iman.cuma sekadar mengikut trend memisahkan diri dari majoriti,konon nya terpelajar dan berpemikiran kritikal.

    Anti-hadis,orang-orang seperti anda lah yg menimbulkan ancaman-ancaman besar terhadap Islam seperti middleages,yg mengambil peranan sebagai pengadu-domba Lim kitsiang,untuk memecah-belah Umat ini,yg mula nya hanya retak sedikit.

    seperti Karpal,anda fikir anda orang ber-akal,namun tak sedar diperalat oleh Lim kitsiang.otak dikawal,tidak mampu berfikir jernih.

    anti-hadis,sekali lagi saya tegaskan,tanpa memahami Hadis dan Sejarah,kefahaman anda tentang Al-Quran cuma lah andaian dan teori saja.memang Sejarah dirosakkan dgn berbagai versi dan terlalu banyak Hadis dipalsukan.namun itu tidak menutup Kebenaran.

    kepalsuan tidak dapat menutup kebenaran.Hadis palsu adalah cabaran besar untuk Umat Islam mengenal Kebenaran.lakukan CSI terhadap Hadis dan Sejarah.menolak hadis palsu bukan jalan keluar.sebalik nya selidik kenapa hadis dipalsukan.

    insya-Allah,Kebenaran pasti mengalahkan kepalsuan.

    terimakasih Tun

  22. if really want to follow the Islamic law, shooting is not even the method of execution prescribed… correct me if I am wrong.
    the way I see it…its male chauvinistic.

  23. Salam Tun,

    The Quran is God’s Final Testament to the world, and He has pledged to protect it from the slightest distortion (15:9).

    [15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it.

    Thus, the Quran is surrounded by invisible forces that guard it and serve it (13:39, 41:42).

    [13:39] GOD erases whatever He wills, and fixes (whatever He wills). With Him is the original Master Record.

    [41:42] No falsehood could enter it, in the past or in the future; a revelation from a Most Wise, Praiseworthy.

    Unlike any other book, the Quran is taught by God (55:1-2);

    [55:1] The Most Gracious.

    [55:2] Teacher of the Quran.

    He teaches us what we need at the time we need it. This is why we read the Quran hundreds of times without getting bored. We can read a novel, for example, only once. But the Quran can be read an infinite number of times, and we derive new and valuable information from it every time. On the other hand, the insincere readers – those who read the Quran to find fault with it – are diverted from the Quran (7:146-147, 17:45, 18:57, 41:44).

    [7:146] I will divert from My revelations those who are arrogant on earth, without justification. Consequently, when they see every kind of proof they will not believe. And when they see the path of guidance they will not adopt it as their path, but when they see the path of straying they will adopt it as their path. This is the consequence of their rejecting our proofs, and being totally heedless thereof.

    [7:147] Those who reject our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are nullified. Are they requited only for what they committed?

    [17:45] When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.

    [18:57] Who are more evil than those who are reminded of their Lord’s proofs, then disregard them, without realizing what they are doing. Consequently, we place shields on their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (the Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what you do to guide them, they can never ever be guided.

    41:44] If we made it a non-Arabic Quran they would have said, “Why did it come down in that language?” Whether it is Arabic or non-Arabic, say, “For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being addressed from faraway.”

    In fact, God’s invisible forces help them find the faults they seek. Since the Quran is perfect, such “faults” serve only to reveal the stupidity of God’s enemies.

    God uses His own attributes to describe the Quran; He calls the Quran ” `Azeem = Great” (15:87), “Hakeem = Full of wisdom” (36:2), “Majid = Glorious” (50:1), and “Karim = Honorable” (56:77). What can we say?

    [15:87] We have given you the seven pairs, and the great Quran.

    [36:2] And the Quran that is full of wisdom.

    [50:1] Q., and the glorious Quran.

    56:77] This is an honorable Quran.

    Since the Quran is God’s message to all the people, regardless of their language, the Quran is accessible to the believers, regardless of their language (41:44). This explains a profound phenomenon: the believers who do not know Arabic know the Quran better than the Arabic speaking unbelievers. Because of the invisible forces serving the Quran, it is readily and enjoyably accessible to the sincere believers, and utterly inaccessible to the unbelievers (17:45, 18:57, 56:79).

    Thank you Tun

  24. Salam Tun,

    1. I was “fasting” from comments on this particlar topic, because i can sense it will be hot, red chilli hot.

    2. I was right. The religious parties are all out fencing each other better than the Italians in Olympic. I am of course on the so called “anti-hadis” side. But this i think is not the right name.

    3. The right name or term perhaps should be anti-Mohamadian, because they profess following the Quran. The Quran further guides us to Mohammad, Moses and Jesus and all prohets, and so it is self balancing.

    4. But i think the proper label for that group is Quranic Islam. This differentiates them from Mohammadian Islam, who are not balanced.

    I suppose all this is too complex for the Mohammadians to handle, and so will not accept the Quranic Islam. There are more reasons it will not be accepted …

    a. Political
    b. Personal Benefit
    c. Racial Benefits & Privileges

    And i think the Quranic group will not be able to proceed any further, such is the nature of it.

    I however pray Allah will help.

    Thank You Tun

  25. Dear Tun,
    Please allow me to quote abdulazizomar
    “”This “system” or religion of ‘Submission to God’ is called Islam, and the one who practices the religion exactly as per Quran is called a Muslim. In English, the words for Islam and Muslim are “Submission” and “Submitter.”

    (islam means peace not submission. Muslim is the practitioner of religion of peace. Submission is your own invention, trying to be too clever. Clearly you try to be be different and find fault with main stream islam. We have to fight back against your sinister and evil intention to confuse the ummah and proclaim an English religion of islam. I suspect you are a western or Orientalis saboteur deployed to undermine islam similar to the character of Abdullah bin Ubayy of Medinah.)

    Unfortunately, those who call themselves Muslims often do not really qualify to be Muslims by virtue of the fact that they neither worship God alone, nor follow the Quran alone as their source of religious guidance.

    What they believe and practice (knowingly or unknowingly), is sometimes significantly different from the clear and precise instructions detailed in the Quran. A few examples below will explain this:

    Violation of the First Pillar of Islam

    The foundation or first ‘pillar’ of Islam is La Elaaha Ella Allah (No god except God), and all Muslims are required to bear witness to this fact. This is highlighted in Quran verse 3:18, where God also bears witness for Himself that “there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge.”

    But the Muslims do not bear witness about God like this. Instead of their Shahaadah (proclamation of faith) which should be Ash-hadu Al La Elaaha Ellaa Allah (I bear witness that there is no god except God), they proclaim, Ash-hadu Al La Elaaha Ellaa Allah, wa Ash-hadu An Muhammad Rasool Allah (I bear witness that there is no god except God and I bear witness that Muhammad is God’s messenger). Adding names or bearing witness about another entity along with God constitutes ‘Shirk’ (Idolatry), and a direct violation of the first pillar of Islam, nullifying anyone’s claim to
    Additionally, proclaiming that Muhammad is God’s messenger and not doing the same for God’s other messengers such as Abraham, David, Moses, John, Jesus etc, directly violates God’s command not to make distinction among His messengers.

    Setting up Muhammad as a partner or ‘god’ besides God.

    (no muslim set up Muhammad as equal to God. Mohammad was the messenger of God through angel Gibrael. Mohammad is human like you and I. Whereas God is unseen and of different entity and different dimention. Please do not accuse Muslims of what is not. Jangan tuduh orang islam yang bukan-bukan)(Dua kalimah syahadah was practised since the time of the prophet. And now you say satu kalimah syahadah is the right one. ABSOLUTE RUBBISH).

    God alone created the universe and He alone is the Lord and Master over all things. He has no partner and none equals Him. While the Muslims may claim to worship God alone, the truth is that they often have difficulty in just mentioning God without mentioning Prophet Muhammad along with Him. Instead of reverencing God, they idolize Prophet Muhammad against his will and give him superhuman status by claiming that he was infallible with power of intercession and mercy, which God never decreed for him or anyone else.””

    (According to islamic history, the jews and the christians were jealous of Mohammad as the Prophet of god because he was an arab perceived to be inferior. Now you are saying 1.4 billion muslims all over the world will go to hell due to shirik because they proclaim dua kalimah shahadah. Abdulaziz, clearly you are the one who is wrong. The muslims understand fully that Mohammad is only a messenger of God as it is so clearly pronounced in the second kalimah.)

    To Abdulazizomar, Iskandar shah 2 and to all other muslims, I wish
    SELAMAT HARI RAYA. MAAF ZAHIR BATIN.

    amin tan

  26. Salamunalaykum!

    ‘ANTI-HADIS’ MENOLAK SERTA MEMINGGIRKAN NABI MUHAMMAD?

    Tuduhan bahawa ‘golongan Anti-Hadis’ menolak ataupun meminggirkan Nabi Muhamad adalah tidak benar sama sekali.

    Sebenarnya, golongan ‘Anti-Hadis’ tidak pernah menolak ataupun meminggirkan Nabi Muhammad.

    Memang benar bahawa golongan ‘Anti-Hadis’ tidak “berselawat” iaitu tidak menyebut ataupun menyeru nama Nabi Muhammad sepertimana orang-orang Islam yang lain.

    Kenapa golongan ‘Anti-Hadis’ tidak menyebut ataupun menyeru nama Nabi Muhammad?

    Mungkin semua telah sedia maklum bahawa TUHAN berfirman di dalam Al-Quran bahawa TUHAN dan para malaikat ‘berselawat’ ke atas Nabi Muhammad. TUHAN juga memerintahkan orang-orang yang beriman supaya ‘berselawat’ ke atas Nabi Muhammad? Sila rujuk ayat [33:56].

    Apakah maksud sebenar ‘selawat’? Bagaimanakah caranya kita ‘berselawat’?

    Mari kita lihat ayat-ayat ini :-

    [Quran 33:56] Sesungguhnya Allah dan Malaikat-Nya ‘YOSSALLOON’ kepada Nabi; wahai orang yang beriman, ‘SALLOOALAYHEE ‘ lah kamu kepadanya serta ‘SALLEMOO TASLEEMA.’

    [Quran 2:157] Mereka itulah orang yang dilimpahi dengan ‘SELAWAT’ dari Tuhan mereka serta rahmat-Nya; dan mereka itulah orang yang dapat petunjuk hidayah-Nya.

    [Quran 9:103] Ambillah (sebahagian) dari harta mereka menjadi sedekah, supaya dengannya engkau membersihkan mereka dan mensucikan mereka dan doakanlah untuk mereka, sesungguhnya ‘SALAWAT’mu itu menjadi ketenteraman bagi mereka. Dan (ingatlah) Allah Maha Mendengar, lagi Maha Mengetahui.

    Dari ayat [33:56], kita tahu bahawa TUHAN ‘berselawat’ kepada Nabi Muhammad.

    Dari ayat [33:56], kita tahu bahawa para malaikat ‘berselawat’ kepada Nabi Muhammad.

    Dari ayat [33:56], kita tahu bahawa orang-orang beriman ‘berselawat’ kepada Nabi Muhammad.

    Dari ayat [2:157], kita tahu bahawa TUHAN ‘berselawat’ kepada orang-orang beriman.

    Dari ayat [9:103], kita tahu bahawa Nabi Muhammad ‘berselawat’ ke atas orang-orang yang beriman.

    Persoalannya, APAKAH MAKSUD SEBENAR ‘SELAWAT’?

    Bagaimanakah caranya untuk kita ‘BERSELAWAT’ kepada Nabi Muhammad? Adakah dengan cara kita menyebut-nyebut atau menyeru nama Nabi Muhammad?

    Bagaimanakah caranya TUHAN ‘berselawat’ kepada Nabi Muhammad? Adakah TUHAN menyebut-nyebut ataupun menyeru nama Nabi Muhammad?

    Bagaimanakah caranya malaikat ‘berselawat kepada Nabi Muhammad? Adakah malaikat menyebut-nyebut ataupun menyeru nama Nabi Muhammad?

    Bagaimanakah caranya TUHAN ‘berselawat’ kepada orang-orang yang beriman? Adakah TUHAN menyebut-nyebut ataupun menyeru nama wajaperak, bubbles dan zulkiflee?

    Bagaimanakah caranya Nabi Muhammad ‘berselawat’ kepada orang-orang yang beriman? Adakah Nabi Muhammad menyebut-nyebut ataupun menyeru nama wajaperak, bubbles dan zulkiflee?

    GOD willing, to be continued…

  27. Assalamualaikum,

    To Abdul Aziz Omar and gang, what we Muslims are practicing today in regards to prayers and other ibadah was taught by the Prophet (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) and have been in practice during his time , followed by his companions and the companions’ followers and their followers’ followers and so on and so forth. They have been in practice for thousand of years. The prophet’s (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) descendants and his companions’ descendants are living amongst us today. Who is Rasyad Khalifa compare to all these people

    The Prophet s.a.w, (MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) )is the last MESSENGER with the FINAL message. There is no new prophet and no new faith. You and your gang are introducing a new faith.
    Either you are imposters or you are a misguided lot! There are many verses in the Quran where Allah says He will not guide : the arrogant, the transgressors, the hypocrites, and the insincere, so do some self reflection.

  28. Salam Tun

    May I..

    Amin Tan

    I am not an evil person trying to confuse anyone.Sunnah Allah merely means God’s ways..its in the Qur’an and all the universal laws that God had created.

    Wajaperak

    I don’t see why is it that I have to see you personally to understand the reason why there are no hadis recorded by the prophets own fathers in law,Abu Bakar and Omar and his sons in law Usman and Ali,the ‘correctly guided caliph.

    Sudin

    We are here to share our sincere opinions.We are not here to hate anyone.I don’t see why I should hate anyone just because we all see things differently.Why can’t we be friendly with anyone,even with people who may hate us?

    Thanks Tun

  29. Salam Tun,

    I would like to share a very interesting article about true practice of Islam compare to current practice by so called ‘Muslims’. Please read it with sincere heart and put your ego away.

    Are “Muslims” really Muslims?

    Most people who profess to be Muslims are not really Muslims in the true sense. And when they claim to follow the religion of Islam, most of what they believe or practice is quite different from the religion detailed in their scripture, the Quran.

    Understanding the meaning of the words Islam and Muslim

    The principal role of all human beings is to seek redemption to God so they may return to Him after their death in this world. But to be redeemed to Him, they must first develop their souls large enough to withstand His awesome presence in the Hereafter which can only be achieved by worshipping God alone and leading a righteous life that pleases Him.

    To ensure that they achieve the required level of soul growth and stay on the right track throughout their lives, God has been sending the humans instructions from Him, telling them exactly what they should do or not do on Earth. These instructions have come to the people in the form of ‘scriptures’ delivered by select ‘messengers,’ called prophets – specially appointed by God for this purpose. Any individual or community that “submits to” or obeys God’s will in His scriptures, is guaranteed a happy life in this world and redemption to God in the Hereafter.

    The Quran is God’s Final Testament to the world. Revealed in Arabic to Prophet Muhammad over twenty three years between 610 and 632 AD, it is the only scripture in existence that is intact and accurately preserved by God down to every letter. It confirms, consummates, and supersedes all previous scriptures from God, giving the world a complete and perfect manual of “how to submit to God,” in one single book. Everything you need from social, economical, political and judicial laws, along with specific worship practices to develop your soul and enjoy God’s grace and protection throughout your life, is contained in the Quran.

    This “system” or religion of ‘Submission to God’ is called Islam, and the one who practices the religion exactly as per Quran is called a Muslim. In English, the words for Islam and Muslim are “Submission” and “Submitter.”

    Unfortunately, those who call themselves Muslims often do not really qualify to be Muslims by virtue of the fact that they neither worship God alone, nor follow the Quran alone as their source of religious guidance.

    What they believe and practice (knowingly or unknowingly), is sometimes significantly different from the clear and precise instructions detailed in the Quran. A few examples below will explain this:

    Violation of the First Pillar of Islam

    The foundation or first ‘pillar’ of Islam is La Elaaha Ella Allah (No god except God), and all Muslims are required to bear witness to this fact. This is highlighted in Quran verse 3:18, where God also bears witness for Himself that “there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge.”

    But the Muslims do not bear witness about God like this. Instead of their Shahaadah (proclamation of faith) which should be Ash-hadu Al La Elaaha Ellaa Allah (I bear witness that there is no god except God), they proclaim, Ash-hadu Al La Elaaha Ellaa Allah, wa Ash-hadu An Muhammad Rasool Allah (I bear witness that there is no god except God and I bear witness that Muhammad is God’s messenger). Adding names or bearing witness about another entity along with God constitutes ‘Shirk’ (Idolatry), and a direct violation of the first pillar of Islam, nullifying anyone’s claim to be a Muslim at the most elementary phase.

    Additionally, proclaiming that Muhammad is God’s messenger and not doing the same for God’s other messengers such as Abraham, David, Moses, John, Jesus etc, directly violates God’s command not to make distinction among His messengers.

    Setting up Muhammad as a partner or ‘god’ besides God

    God alone created the universe and He alone is the Lord and Master over all things. He has no partner and none equals Him. While the Muslims may claim to worship God alone, the truth is that they often have difficulty in just mentioning God without mentioning Prophet Muhammad along with Him. Instead of reverencing God, they idolize Prophet Muhammad against his will and give him superhuman status by claiming that he was infallible with power of intercession and mercy, which God never decreed for him or anyone else.

    Reverencing anyone else besides God; mentioning other names along with God; or believing that anything or anyone besides God can help you in this life or in the Hereafter, constitutes setting up of partners or ‘gods’ besides God. This is Shirk or Idol Worship by definition, and is an unforgivable offense if maintained till death.

    Violation of the other Four Pillars of Islam

    Besides the first pillar of Islam, there are four other pillars which comprise the specific practices that must be performed to enable the soul to grow in huge proportions. These are the Salat (Contact Prayers), Zakat (Obligatory Charity), Seyam (Fasting) and Hajj (Pilgrimage). Like with everything else, these practices are also grossly violated by the Muslims.

    Salat (Contact Prayers): There are five ‘Contact Prayers’ which must be performed daily at particular times during the day. These prayers are a mathematically coded set of specific sound and body movements that create a mystical harmony in the universe and establish ‘direct’ contact with God. Any deviation from the format prescribed by God nullifies the prayers, which is just what the Muslims world over are doing. For example:

    – They perform some parts of the Salat prayer silently, while God commands the Contact Prayer to be uttered in a moderate tone.

    – The Muslims add some extra prayers/units of their own which break the mathematical connection of the specified five prayer set. The ablution to prepare for prayer has only four simple steps but they do upwards of eight steps. In Islam, the premise that “more is better” does not apply in the case of specified religious practices. What counts is that God’s instructions are carried out exactly as prescribed by Him – which is what submission to God is all about.

    – Some Muslims do not do the Dawn and the other Salat prayers at their scheduled times. They practice an innovation called Kazaa or ‘make up’ prayer which allows them to do the prayers at a later time convenient to them. This completely defeats the purpose of performing a specific practice when God wants you to.
    Many Muslim women do not observe the Salat Prayer during their period, denying themselves a few days of vital soul growth every month. Menstruation is a natural body function like mucous in the nose, wax in the ear or continuous discard/replenishment of skin and hair. Deeming it to be a spiritual impurity or curse from God is a condemnation of God’s perfect design of the human body. In Islam, God treats men and women as absolute equals and nowhere in the Quran does He prohibit women from worshipping Him during their period.

    – The objective of the Salat Prayer is to remember and commemorate God. By taking the name of Prophet Muhammad or mentioning any other name besides God in the prayer, the prayer is nullified as it is no longer devoted absolutely to God alone.

    Zakat (Obligatory Charity): The Zakat charity is an efficient economic system which guarantees regular provisions for the needy and ensures constant circulation of wealth. It is calculated at 2.5% of net income and given away on the ‘day of harvest’ (like when you receive a paycheck) to parents, relatives, orphans, poor and the traveling alien, in that order. It is such an important practice that God specifies His mercy for those who give it, but the Muslims insist on doing it all wrong. They calculate their Zakat only on gross assets, once a year during the month of Ramadan, and do not distribute it in the specified order of recipients. Their corrupted practice is not practical because:

    – Calculation on gross assets instead of net income causes inaccurate and unnecessary deliberation on arriving at the Zakat amount to be distributed. If the gross assets have appreciated greatly, it may encourage cheating in the accounting basis, or force the giver to sell assets to fund the high amount. On the other hand, smaller amounts calculated only when net income is received, place no burden on the giver. Islam is an extremely practical religion and God wants His servants to have convenience, not hardship, in practicing it.

    – A large amount given only once a year may cause overspending by the recipient and not leave enough reserve for the rest of the year. Additionally, if the Zakat is lost, stolen or destroyed, the needy recipient will have to wait one whole year to get relief again!

    Seyam (Fasting): Fasting throughout the month of Ramadan is a great opportunity to develop the soul by practicing self discipline, besides its scientifically proven health benefits by giving the digestive system some rest. But the Muslims have innovated so many complex rules around it that it appears difficult and takes away from the significance of the practice. Some of their illogical rules include; not swallowing saliva when fasting, not watching TV for the whole month, starting and ending
    the month only after physically sighting the moon, ending the fast only with date fruit or salt.

    Hajj (Pilgrimage): The pilgrimage to Mecca is decreed once in a lifetime only for those who can afford it. It cannot be performed by one person for another person who is alive or dead. Yet many poor Muslims sell off their assets or go into lifetime debt to make it, because they believe that performing Hajj wipes out all past and future sins. God has decreed four months in which to do Hajj but local Governments restrict it to a few days for their convenience. The consequent overcrowding results in constant dealing with crowds rather than spending those precious few days in concerted worship of God alone.

    Besides a variety of complicated rules never decreed by God, most pilgrims also visit Medina to pray at Prophet Muhammad’s tomb. The Prophet, like every true Submitter (Muslim), dedicated his worship practices absolutely to God alone and preached that everyone should do the same. He never visited his own tomb (obviously), and never asked or expected anyone to reverence him before or after his death. He could not help people when he was alive so how will it help to commemorate him after his death?

    Abandonment of Quran

    The Quran is a perfect, easy-to-follow manual of religious guidance for every generation, if only people would just kill their egos and follow it for their happiness and salvation. In it, God has outlined a comprehensive system that deals with and provides a solution for every aspect of a human’s life from birth to death. Besides the prescribed religious practices, there are also specific laws and guidelines for people to establish a free, fair, and progressive society to live in. But the Muslims have abandoned the Glorious Quran in favor of conjecture, personal opinions (mostly for their convenience), and sources not authorized by God, such as the Hadith and Sunna, which they believe are needed to explain the Quran.

    In reality, the Hadith (narrations) and Sunna (actions) are gross falsehoods attributed to Prophet Muhammad which appeared about two hundred years after his death. In Quran, God mentions the word Hadith by name several times and commands Muslims to study and follow no other Hadith except His Hadith – the Quran. The Quran is totally free from any nonsense or contradictions, unlike what is found in the many books of Hadith. It is also an acknowledged fact that the Hadith compilers abandoned over 90% of their own collections because they could not confirm them to be accurate or authentic. Strangely, when the Muslims insist that the Hadith books are needed to explain the Quran, the Hadith passages never tell you which verses of the Quran they are supposed to be explaining!

    Because they do not study the Quran, the Muslims do not realize that the prophet’s role was only to deliver the Quran, not explain it. Even the religious practices of Salat, Zakat, Seyam and Hajj were not taught to him as commonly believed. These practices were taught to Prophet Abraham many centuries earlier and were already in existence when the Quran was revealed. However, as a religious and political leader, the prophet was authorized by God to issue certain instructions for the proper functioning of the society and responsible dissemination of God’s message. Whenever he issued such instructions, the people were required to obey him and carry out those instructions.

    So in Quran, when God says, ‘obey the messenger,’ it is with reference to those specific instructions when he was alive, not after his death. But the Muslims have taken this completely out of context and created a false parallel religion based on what Prophet Muhammad “apparently” said or did. This covers things like what clothes he wore, how he walked, combed his hair, ate his food and what not which, even if true have nothing to do with the religion. Whatever we need to do—even our personal actions—is already made clear in the Quran. Ironically, when they claim that they must ‘do as the prophet did,’ the Muslims never seem to copy the prophet’s excellent example of devoting his life and worship absolutely to God alone and following nothing but the Quran for his guidance.

    “Muslims” need to become True Muslims

    At this time, God has put in motion the process of restoring His great religion of Islam to its pristine purity. The list of religious violations committed by those who call themselves “Muslims” is really huge and they must change themselves soon in their own interest. If they do not abandon their falsehood and become true Muslims as defined in the Quran, they will never exit the miserable and disrupted existence most of them are experiencing all over the world. Additionally, by upholding their blind practices and setting the wrong examples, they will carry the burden of misleading or repelling millions of people from the truth.

    Thank you Tun

  30. Salam Tun,

    Not accepting the hadith is one thing, we have the right to differ, but not showing respect to the Prophet s.a.w is just too much.

    Thank you.

  31. Assalamu’alaikum Tun

    mohon izin membalas komen-komen antihadis abdulazizomar,hidden secret dan iskandar shah…..

    tiada perkataan yg sesuai untuk menyeru anda sekelian.perkataan ‘saudara’ hanya untuk sesama Islam saja.tidak sesuai untuk golongan murtad seperti anda sekelian.

    baik lah,bagaimana saya menyeru atau memanggil anda sekelian tidak lah penting sangat.kita sudah bersetuju bahwa kita berlainan Agama.

    cuma yg saya tidak setuju adalah penggunaan secara berleluasa oleh pihak ‘agama’ anda terhadap kita suci kami Al-Quranul Karim.

    dan lebih tidak kami sukai ialah jika kitab suci kami Al Quran digunakan secara memandai-mandai untuk menyebar ‘agama’ versi anda terhadap kami.

    kalau pandai sangat,kenapa tidak cipta kitab sendiri? atau kenapa tidak cari kitab agama lain untuk anda putar-belikan? kenapa pilih Al-Quran? kenapa tak tak pilih Bible atau Old Testament? atau Veda?

    atau adakah kerana Umat Islam sedang lemah dan tidak mampu bertindak terhadap anda,lalu anda memilih untuk memangsa Agama kami?

    Umat Islam memang sedang terlalu lemah.sebab itu kita harus bersikap keras terhadap orang-orang yg hendak memecah-belahkan lagi Agama ini seperti anda.

    ada hadis yg mengatakan;
    “Bersikap sombong terhadap orang orang yg angkuh adalah satu Sedekah”….

    anda tolak hadis ini? saya juga menolak banyak hadis yg terang-terang bertentang dgn Al Quran.namun saya tidak menolak keseluruhan Hadis.

    sebab Hadis adalah asas penting dalam memahami Al-Quran.semua Umat Islam sedunia (dan akhirat juga) berpegang pada asas ini,Quran dan Sunnah.

    Ijma’ dan Qias,boleh kita tolak dan boleh kita terima sesuai dgn tahap ilmu kita.erti nya,untuk menolak Imam Ghazali,anda perlu ilmu setinggi Imam Ghazali.ini adalah keadilan dalam berilmu.

    demikian juga untuk menolak hadis,perlu ada pengetahuan yg jelas tentang sesuatu hadis itu.banyak ulama-ulama Islam sendiripun menolak satu-satu hadis.misal nya ulama AhlusSunnah menolak kebanyakkan hadis dari puak Syiah.

    dan ulama-ulama Syiah juga menolak kebanyakkan hadis dari AhlusSunnah.

    namun kedua-dua nya tidak pernah mempertikaikan Rasulullah s.a.w sebagai sumber kefahaman mengenai Al-Quran.hadis-hadis yg diyakini jelas memang datang dari Baginda s.a.w di jadikan pedoman memahami Al Quran.

    sejak 1400 tahun dulu,tiada seorang pun ulama,yg walau bagaimana celupar sekalipun,berani bertindak biadap meminggirkan Rasulullah s.a.w dari Al Quran seperti yg Rasyad Khalifa dan anda sekelian lakukan.

    hadis-hadis palsu,yg seharus nya menjadikan kita lebih tercabar untuk memahami kebenaran,dihumban keluar bersama Rasulullah s.a.w sekali.apakah biadap yg lebih besar dari pada ini?

    bila saya kata anda dungu,anda tak percaya.tapi anda tetap mahu terus berpegang-teguh dgn kedunguan kawanan anda.memandai-mandai dgn ilmu yg tak seberapa.

    kail panjang sejengkal,cempedak luar pagar.memetik ayat-ayat Al Quran tanpa untuk di jadikan dalil perbahasan semata-mata.tiada keinginan memahami kebenaran langsung!

    anda sekelian tak ubah bagai Karpal Singh memutar-belit Undang-undang tanpa ada rasa hendak menghormati Undang-undang itu sendiri.

    antihadis….saya rasa anti-Islam adalah gelar yg lebih sesuai dgn anda sekelian…Anti-Islam,agama anda hanyalah teori semata-mata.samalah seperti teori Iblis iaitu mentauhidkan Allah ‘at all cost!’.

    sekalipun terpaksa menentang perintah Allah.

    sebab itu Iblis enggan sujud pada Adam a.s.dia rasa Allah tidak ber-hak memberi perintah supaya sujud kpd selain Allah.

    didalam Islam,kita di ajar untuk sujud kpd selain Allah.tak percaya? semak Al Quran.Malaikat sujud kpd Nabi Adam a.s.Nabi Yaakoub a.s sujud kpd anak nya Nabi Yusuf a.s.

    dan kami Umat Islam di seluruh dunia sujud menghadap Kaabah yg di sisi nya ada makam seorang hamba wanita kulit hitam,iaitu Siti Hajar,isteri Nabi Ibrahim a.s dan juga ibu Nabi Ismail a.s.

    ini lah Islam.kita tidak menyembah selain Allah.namun kita sujud kpd perintah Allah Subhanaullahu Ta’ala.kita tidak menyembah selain Allah.jadi kenapa anda risaukan azan yg menyebut nama Rasulullah s.a.w? atau sholawat dalam sholat?

    atau anda sekelian memang serpihan Wahabi yg hendak merosak Agama ini dalam? namun saya lebih percaya anda sekelian hanyalah orang-orang dungu yg tersesat dalam kembara ilmu.

    terimakasih Tun

  32. Assalamualaikum

    Izinkan saya petik kata kata Abdul Aziz Omar..

    “Bagi zulkiflee, saya cadangkan anda berhenti mengatakan sesuatu yang anda sendiri tidak pasti akan amal kami. Kamu mengatakan kamu tidak memuja Muhammad, sedangkan di masjid berdekatan rumah saya ini kedengaran Imam melaungkan nama Muhammad setiap kali siap habis 2 rakaat solat sunat terawikh, dan tengah hari tadi saya ke masjid untuk menunaikan solat jumaat juga, Imam itu melaungkan nama Muhammad dan Ibrahim dan sahabat-sahabatnya serta nama Raja negeri. Jadi apakah ini sah di dalam rukun solat Jumaat? Kamu hanya layak melaungkan nama Allah swt sahaja. Kerana setiap ibadah kamu hanya untuk Allah swt dan tidak kepada mana-mana entiti lain. Walaupun Muhammad itu seorang Nabi dan telah pun wafat, kita tidak harus menyebut namanya hanya kerana kita mencintai baginda. Sedangkan baginda sendiri tidak menyebut atau salawat ke atas diri baginda sendiri, macam mana kamu mengatakan kamu berhak? Kalau kamu betul-betul ingin menuruti ajaran Nabi Muhammad, maka ikutlah apa yang terkandung di dalam Al Quran dan insyAllah kamu akan mendapat petunjuknya.”

    What’s your problem with the Prophet s.a.w.? Such arrogance, the same arrogance that we see in Iblis. He too believe in Allah but refused to show respect to Nabi Adam a.s. even though Allah COMMANDED him to do so, Iblis rather be banished than to lower himself to Nabi adam a.s.

    Are you not doing the same thing? when Surah Al Ahzab verse 56 clearly says ” Lo! Allah and his angels shower his blessings on the Prophet. Oh ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutations”.

    So which Quran are you using? Rasyad khalifa’s ?

    Tun,

  33. Peace.

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    HUDUD AS MENTIONED IN THE QURAN.

    HUDUD means LAW. Please refer to the Arabic text of the following verses regarding HUDUD. Please note that I do not include verses regarding Islamic laws which do not have the Arabic word ‘Hudud’ :-

    [2:187] Permitted for you is sexual intercourse with your wives during the nights of fasting. They are the keepers of your secrets, and you are the keepers of their secrets. GOD knew that you used to betray your souls, and He has redeemed you, and has pardoned you. Henceforth, you may have intercourse with them, seeking what GOD has permitted for you. You may eat and drink until the white thread of light becomes distinguishable from the dark thread of night at dawn. Then, you shall fast until sunset. Sexual intercourse is prohibited if you decide to retreat to the masjid (during the last ten days of Ramadan). These are GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS); you shall not transgress them. GOD thus clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may attain salvation.

    [2: 229] Divorce may be retracted twice. The divorced woman shall be allowed to live in the same home amicably, or leave it amicably. It is not lawful for the husband to take back anything he had given her. However, the couple may fear that they may transgress GOD’S HUDUD (LAW). If there is fear that they may transgress GOD’S HUDUD (LAW), they commit no error if the wife willingly gives back whatever she chooses. These are GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS); do not transgress them. Those who transgress GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS) are the unjust.

    [2: 230] If he divorces her (for the third time), it is unlawful for him to remarry her, unless she marries another man, then he divorces her. The first husband can then remarry her, so long as they observe GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS). These are GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS); He explains them for people who know.

    [4: 12] You get half of what your wives leave behind, if they had no children. If they had children, you get one-fourth of what they leave. All this, after fulfilling any will they had left, and after paying off all debts. They get one-fourth of what you leave behind, if you had no children. If you had children, they get one-eighth of what you bequeath. All this, after fulfilling any will you had left, and after paying off all debts. If the deceased man or woman was a loner, and leaves two siblings, male or female, each of them gets one-sixth of the inheritance. If there are more siblings, then they equally share one-third of the inheritance. All this, after fulfilling any will, and after paying off all debts, so that no one is hurt. This is a will decreed by GOD. GOD is Omniscient, Clement.
    [4: 13] These are GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS). Those who obey GOD and His messenger, He will admit them into gardens with flowing streams, wherein they abide forever. This is the greatest triumph.
    [4: 14] As for the one who disobeys GOD and His messenger, and transgresses HIS HUDUD (LAWS), He will admit him into Hell, wherein he abides forever. He has incurred a shameful retribution.

    [9: 97] The Arabs are the worst in disbelief and hypocrisy, and the most likely to ignore the HUDUD (LAWS) that GOD has revealed to His messenger. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

    [9: 112] They are the repenters, the worshipers, the praisers, the meditators, the bowing and prostrating, the advocators of righteousness and forbidders of evil, and the keepers of GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS). Give good news to such believers.

    [58: 4] If you cannot find a slave to free, you shall fast two consecutive months before resuming sexual relations. If you cannot fast, then you shall feed sixty poor people. You shall believe in GOD and His messenger. These are GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS). The disbelievers have incurred a painful retribution.

    [65: 1] O you prophet, when you people divorce the women, you shall ensure that a divorce interim is fulfilled. You shall measure such an interim precisely.* You shall reverence GOD your Lord. Do not evict them from their homes, nor shall you make life miserable for them, to force them to leave on their own, unless they commit a proven adultery. These are GOD’s HUDUD (LAWS). Anyone who transgresses GOD’S HUDUD (LAWS) commits an injustice against himself. You never know; maybe GOD wills something good to come out of this.

    * Footnote for [65:1] : The divorcee’s interim, before becoming eligible for remarriage, is a waiting period of three menstruations. This ensures that the divorcee was not pregnant (2:228).

    Rgds.

  34. Salam Tun,

    I would like to ask friends from this blog to give some answer to the verses below from chapter 3, Al Imran.

    The Most Important Commandment

    [3:18] GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.

    Submission: The Only Religion

    [3:19] The only religion approved by GOD is “Submission.” Ironically, those who have received the scripture are the ones who dispute this fact, despite the knowledge they have received, due to jealousy. For such rejectors of GOD’s revelations, GOD is most strict in reckoning.

    [3:20] If they argue with you, then say, “I have simply submitted myself to GOD; I and those who follow me.” You shall proclaim to those who received the scripture, as well as those who did not, “Would you submit?” If they submit, then they have been guided, but if they turn away, your sole mission is to deliver this message. GOD is Seer of all people.

    [3:21] Those who have rejected GOD’s revelations, and killed the prophets unjustly, and killed those who advocated justice among the people, promise them a painful retribution.

    [3:22] Their works have been nullified, both in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.

    [3:23] Have you noted those who were given part of the scripture, and how they are invited to uphold this scripture of GOD, and apply it to their own lives, then some of them turn away in aversion?

    [3:24] This is because they said, “The hellfire will not touch us, except for a few days.” They were thus deceived in their religion by their own fabrications.

    [3:25] How will it be for them, when we summon them on that inevitable day? Each soul will be paid for whatever it earned, without the least injustice.

    If you read 3:19 and 3:20, you will know the exact word come out of Prophet’s mouth about the message in the Quran. And if you read 3:18, you will understand that is the exact syahadah from Prophet’s mouth too. It was told to the people of the world about admitting that there is no god except He. So why then people adding Muhammad’s name beside the syahadah? This is happening to the ‘Muhammadans’. Same thing happened to followers of Jesus, admitting that Jesus is son of god and believing that Jesus can protect them. So what is the difference between Muslim and Christian? Can you explain?

    Then when you read 3:20 again, you will understand when ‘they’ argue with you, u answer with 3:20. Then in 3:21, God mentioned those who reject the revelations….who are they? Are they those who follow Quran or Hadith who reject the Quran? You can;t follow both, you must choose one….There is no justification for following Hadith over Quran in regards to accepting God’s revelations. Because God did not authorize Hadith but the Quran alone.

    I hope those who are against the ‘anti-hadith’ group, please argue with facts from Quran and not mumbling like Wajaperak…who will just make it more obvious of his ignorance….:)

    Thank you

  35. Salam Tun,

    Kepada Zulkiflee dan Wajaperak.

    Setahu saya kita di sini adalah untuk ber tukar tukar fikiran dan pendapat tentang sesuatu topik atau issue walau mengenai ugama atau lain lain.

    Kita di sini bukan untuk nak menguji kepandaian atau ilmu. Kita hanya hendak mencari kebenaran. Kalau Wajaperak nak tahu terlebih dahulu tentang ‘ilmu’ seseorang itu sebelum nak berbincang maka sini bukan tempat nya. Orang yang waras hanya mahu tahu sama ada yang di katakan itu betul atau tidak, walau yang membawa berita itu seorang budak kecil. Kalau kita memperkatakan sesuatu daripada Al Quran maka kenapa kamu tidak mahu percaya? Kenapa kamu suka mengatakan bahawa itu tak betul dan ini tak betul, sedangkan ianya bukan kata kata kami tapi dari Allah (Quran)? Tuan tuan ini selalu marah marah dalam berhujah dan ini berbeza dengan ajaran Islam. Kamu suka mengatakan yang Rashad Khalifa mengaku dia seorang nabi. Ini tidak betul. Dia hanya mengaku sebagai ‘Imam Mahadi’. Dan ini pun tidak semesti kita percaya. Yang pentingnya ialah kita beriman kepada AlQuran yang di bawa olih Muhammad, nabi yang akhir. Rashad tidak pernah meyuroh kita percaya kepada nya.

    Tuan tuan sangat marah kalau kita tidak mahu percaya kepada Hadith2 yang terang2 palsu, tetapi tidak peduli kalau Hadith2 itu bercanggah dengan AlQuran. Tuan tuan sudah lama berada di dalam kegelapan tetapi masih percaya yang tuan tuan lah yang betul.

    Minta tuan tuan guna bahasa yang baik dalam berhujah dan baca tulisan The Hidden Secret dengan teliti.

    Hukuman yang di beri kepada si di tuduh di Afghanistan itu terang2 bercangah dengan ajaran Quran tetapi mengikut ajaran ‘Hadiths’. Jadi bolihkah tuan tuan menerangkan mana satu tuan tuan nak ikut? Kita orang semua mahu tahu.

    ‘Kenapa kamu bekata sesuatu yang kamu tidak buat?…… (Quran)

    Terima kasih Tun dan semua.

  36. Salam!

    DENGAN NAMA TUHAN.

    HUKUMAN BUNUH (Capital Punishment) samada secara rejam dengan batu, tembak , pancung dan sebagainya TIDAK WUJUD DI DALAM AJARAN ISLAM.

    Sila rujuk terjemahan ayat Al-Quran di bawah. Terjemahan ini diambil dari website Jakim :-

    [4:16] Dan dua orang di antara kamu yang melakukan perbuatan keji itu, maka hukumlah keduanya; maka JIKA MEREKA BERTAUBAT DAN MEMPERBAIKI DIRI MAKA BIARKANLAH MEREKA; sesungguhnya Allah adalah Maha Menerima taubat, lagi Maha Luas Rahmat-Nya.

    [4:25] Dan sesiapa di antara kamu yang tidak mempunyai kemampuan yang cukup untuk berkahwin dengan perempuan-perempuan yang baik-baik lagi beriman, maka bolehlah kamu kahwini hamba-hamba wanita yang beriman milikmu. Dan Allah lebih mengetahui akan iman kamu; Sebahagian kamu adalah dari sebahagian yang lain. Oleh itu kahwinilah mereka dengan izin walinya serta berikanlah mas kahwinnya menurut yang patut. Mereka hendaklah yang sopan bukan perempuan lacur, dan bukan pula yang mengambil lelaki sebagai teman simpanan. APABILA MEREKA TELAH BERKAHWIN, LALU MEREKA BERZINA, MAKA MEREKA DIKENAKAN SEPARUH DARIPADA SEKSAAN WANITA-WANITA MERDEKA YANG BERKAHWIN. Yang demikian itu ialah bagi orang yang bimbang melakukan zina di antara kamu; dan sabarnya kamu itu adalah lebih baik bagi kamu. Dan Allah Maha Pengampun, lagi Maha Mengasihani.

    http://www.islamgrid.gov.my/quran/terjemahan_ayat1.php

    Kalaulah pesalah zina telah dihukum bunuh, macam mana kita nak biarkan mereka?

    Kalaulah pesalah zina yang bukan hamba dihukum bunuh, macam mana kita hendak kenakan separuh hukuman terhadap pesalah zina berstatus hamba?

    Daripada kedua-dua ayat di atas, amat jelas bahawa hukuman bunuh (capital punishment) dalam apa jua bentuk (rejam dengan batu, pancung, tembak dan sebagainya) terhadap kesalahan zina tidak ujud di dalam Islam.

    Dari manakah datangnya hukuman bunuh (capital punishment) terhadap pesalah zina?

    Sumber-sumber berkaitan hukuman bunuh terhadap pesalah zina datang dari tiga sumber iaitu :-

    1. Taurat (Torah) ataupun Old Testament di dalam Book of Deuteronomy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning

    2. Mishnah *.

    * Nota : Mishnah merupakan ‘hadis’ versi Judaism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishna

    3. Hadis.

    Muslim (17:4196) – A married man confesses that he has adultery. Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.

    Muslim (17:4206) – A woman who became pregnant confesses to Muhammad that she is guilty of adultery. Muhammad allows her to have the child, then has her stoned (the description is graphic).

    Muslim (17:4209) – A woman confesses adultery and is stoned to death on Muhammad’s order.

    Ibn Ishaq (970) – “The adulterer must be stoned.” These words were a part of Muhammad’s farewell address to his people on the occasion of his final pilgrimage to Mecca.

    Ketiga-tiga sumber di atas (Taurat, Mishnah dan Hadis) adalah bertentangan dengan Al-Quran (ayat [4:16] dan [4:25]). Oleh kerana ianya bertentangan dengan Al-Quran, KISAH MENGENAI NABI MUHAMMAD MELAKSANAKAN HUJUM REJAM SAMPAI MATI TERHADAP PESALAH ZINA ADALAH KISAH YANG TIDAK BENAR. Nabi Muhammad tidak akan melakukan sesuatu yang bertentangan dengan Al-Quran.

    Apakah hukuman pesalah zina di dalam Islam?

    Hukuman pesalah zina di dalam Islam adalah 100 kali sebat dilakukan di hadapan orang ramai.

    [24:2] PEREMPUAN YANG BERZINA DAN LELAKI YANG BERZINA, hendaklah kamu SEBAT TIAP-TIAP SEORANG DARI KEDUANYA SERATUS KALI SEBAT; dan janganlah kamu dipengaruhi oleh perasaan belas kasihan terhadap keduanya dalam menjalankan agama Allah, jika benar kamu beriman kepada Allah dan hari Akhirat; dan HENDAKLAH DISAKSIKAN HUKUMAN SEKSA YANG DIKENAKAN KEPADA MEREKA ITU OLEH SEKUMPULAN DARI ORANG YANG BERIMAN.

    Hendaklah kita ingat bahawa sebatan yang dikenakan bukanlah sebatan yang kuat. Sebatan yang dikenakan hendaklah sebatan yang simbolik. Sebatan yang kuat akan menyebabkan kematian kepada pesalah zina.

    http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails/tabid/96/smid/414/ArticleID/163320/reftab/96/t/Woman-dies-after-caning-cleric-held/Default.aspx

    Sekian.

  37. Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruangan..

    Saudara Iskandar Shah 2…….:)

    [[10-Sebelum saya mengundurkan diri mari kita berbalik kepada petikkan kata kata tuan diatas sana”,kalau tanpa ilmu dari hujatul islam imam al Ghazali,bagaimanakah caranya kita nak beribadah?’]]

    Adakah ini di sengajakan atau tersilap tulis?…Konteksnya maksud saya?…
    Pada satu masa dahulu Imam Al Ghazali pernah di kecam dengan hebat seperti anda dan golongan anda mengecam kami bila beliau mula mengajarkan Ihya di satu sudut sebuah masjid..
    Kecaman mereka adalah kepada tajuk ‘Ihya Ulumiddin’ yang bermaksud “Menghidupkan kembali ilmu-ilmu agama”..
    Mereka logged in kedalam blog Tun dan menyerang Imam Ghazali dengan kata-kata kesat seperti ini…
    “Pigi dah Imam konon..Jadi nenek moyang kami dah beramal dengan ajaran salah la?…Serta bermacam-macam kata-kata kesat yang lain..mereka..Opss..Eh zaman dulu mana ada blog Tun?..Jadi bagaimana golongan ini menyerang Imam Ghazali?..
    Begitulah tuan..
    Saya memperkatakan yang lain daripada apa yang tuan dan sahabat-sahabat tuan memperkatakan..
    Marilah kita kembali kepada ajaran asas Agama Islam iaitu awal kepada Agama ( Din ) ialah mengenal Allah..
    Ceritakan kepada kami bagaimana anda kenal Allah..
    Ceritakan juga dari mana ilmu ini di perolehi….:)

    [[11-Apakah tuan bermaksud selama hamper empat ratus tahun sebelum lahirnya imam al Ghazali dan ulamak muktabar lain orang Islam semua tak tahu beribadat? Tolong jelaskan]]

    Jawapan ini sama seperti yang di atas.Cuma saya nak tambah satu cerita dari Aesop fables..Satu hari adalah arnab sentiasa memperbodoh-bodohkan sang kura-kura.Sang kura-kura naik panas dan mengajak sang arnab berlari..kemudian…..eh..eh..cukuplah kita ambil iktibar cerita ini
    tentang moral cerita ini..
    Pada suatu hari Rasullulah s.a.w bertanya kepada seorang arab badwi..”Di manakah TuhanMu berada”?..Jawab badwi tersebut “TuhanKu berada di atas gunung sana”..
    Memadailah..memadailah…jawab Rasullulah s.a.w.Maksudnya bagi tahap kefahaman Arab Badwi itu memadailah begitu tetapi jika di tanya orang maka jawapan standard piawai bagi kita adalah seperti yang termaktub di dalam surah Toha iaitu “ArRahman berada di atas Arasy”..
    Begitulah juga jawapan standard dan piawai kepada soalan “Apakah yang TuhanMu sedang buat sekarang?”..Jawapannya adalah seperti apa yang terdapat di dalam surah Ar Rahman…
    Kesimpulannya saya telah banyak menguji tuan dan para sahabat tuan dengan soalan-soalan sebagaimana yang Rasullulah,para tabiin dan tabiin dan tabiin,Imam Ghazali,Imam Shafie dan lain-lain mengajukan soalan-soalan.Ini bukanlah tujuan untuk memperbodoh-bodohkan sesiapa tapi Islam amat mengutamakan kefahaman ilmu…
    “There is knowledge and there is the degree of knowledge”..
    Dan dari ayat Al Quran “Bertanyalah kepada yang ahli”..
    Mengapa masuk blog Tun bertanyakan kepada yang bukan ahli?…:)

    Sekian..Mencapai ilmu ini mudah sahaja seperti yang di maksudkan di dalam Surah Al Insan..contention saya dengan tuan-tuan adalah “Degree of Knowledge” tersebut yang hanya dapat di huraikan dengan bersemuka…:)

    Terima kasih tuan.
    Terima kasih Tun…

  38. Salam Tun,

    Izinkan saya petik Saudara Iskandar Shah 2

    “”salam Bro wajaperak

    1-Bubbles kata kalau nak mencari kebenaran orang orang anti hadis mestilah bersikap buka hati dan bertanyalah kepada tuan .Sebenarnya kami memangnya senantiasa nak mendengar hujah dari tuan atau sesiapa pun,kalau hujahnya selari dengan sunnah Allah,past kami boleh terima.Seikhlasnya kami memang selalu ternanti2 hujah tuan yang kami iktiraf kuat dalam pemikiran mainstream .””

    Saudara Iskandar Shah 2,

    Kenapa pula guna istilah sunnah Allah dan bukan sifat Allah? Bukankah Sunnah digunakan kepada Rasullullah. Adakah saudara berniat untuk mengelirukan. Allah diterangkan dengan sifatNya yang 20 dalam surah baqarah. Cara2 nabi Mohammad menjalani hidupnya dinamakan sunnah nabi. Orang islam mencontohi sunnah nabi Mohammad yang mendapat wahyu dan petunjuk daripada Allah yang ghaib, yang mempunyai dimensi luar kemampuan manusia memahami. Sebab itulah terdapat kalimah “samiakna wa atokna” dalam Al Quran.
    Akal manusia pandai setakat Abu Jahal dan Abu Lahab sahaja yang tidak percaya kepada peristiwa Israj dan Mehraj. Sebab itulah nabi beri nama galaran kepada meraka yang terlalu bangga dengan akal konon sebagai KAFIR LAkNATULLAH. Jangan sesudah kita menjadi muslim, kita bertukar menjadi murtad, menjadi kafir atau munafik.

    2. Hayati dunia, samada yang dikatakan islam, barat atau timur masing2 mengejar keamanan, kesejahteraan,kekayaan, kebahagiaan dan kemakmuran yang elusive semenjak purba sehinggalah sekarang. Manusia tidak akan mencapai impian mereka bagaikan mencapai pelangi(rainbow) yang menipu mata memandang. Orang2 islam dijanjikan syurga. Kita kena yakin bagaikan pesanan dalam surah Asri(masa). Bersabarlah dan berpegang kuat kepada haq(islam) selagi badan dikandung nyawa.

    3. Saya setuju, sependapat dan sejiwa dengan saudara Zulkiflee tentang kumpulan anti hadis.

    Saudara Zulkiflee berhujah

    “”seharus nya ada pihak berwajib yg menguruskan orang-orang murtad seperti anda.namun Islam sedang terlalu lemah dan musuh-musuh Islam sedang perkasa dan berleluasa,jadi apakan daya.

    tapi bila anda dan gerombolan antihadis lain nya secara berterusan menyebar fahaman songsang Iblis dan Rasyad Khalifa,maka anda sekelian perlu di banteras.

    anda berselindung di balik Al-Quran.untuk pengetahuan anda,antihadis bukanlah golongan pertama yg berselindung di sebalik Kemuliaan Al-Quran.

    selidik lah sejarah.

    baca Ibn Katsir,Adz-Dzahabi dan lain-lain untuk melihat bagaimana penafsiran Al-Quran diputar-belit untuk kepentingan yg bertentangan dgn kepentingan Agama Suci ini.

    sejak dari Iblis yg enggan sujud kpd Adam a.s atas dasar Tauhid…sampailah kpd golongan antihadis seperti anda sekelian,yg menolak berbagai asas-asas Agama ini,termasuk lah sholawat keatas Rasulullah s.a.w…sudah sangat banyak mengakibatkan tengkarah yg tidak seharus nya terjadi.

    semua nya gara-gara Bodoh,Degil dan Biadap.berpegang kpd fahaman cetek yg amat bodoh,berdegil mempertahankan nya tanpa merasa perlu mempertingkat ilmu kefahaman diri sendiri dan secara biadap memperlekehkan amalan-amalan Umat Islam,termasuk bersholawat ke atas Rasulullah s.a.w dan Keluarga Baginda yg suci.

    antihadis,anda sekelian hanyalah orang-orang dungu yg diperalatkan oleh musuh-musuh Islam.kalau anda benar-benar dungu,anda masih boleh di maafkan.tapi perlu lah anda bersungguh-sungguh melakukan penyelidikkan ala-CSI mengenai sejarah Agama ini.””

    amin tan

  39. Peace!

    Dear zulkiflee,

    Until now, I never give bad remark to any religion (including your religion) in any of my comment in this topic. I also don’t like to argue with anyone (including you).

    Basically, I respect other people’s religious believe (including your religion). Intil now, I never condemn any religion (including your religion).

    Until now, I never use any word like ‘bodoh’, ‘dungu’, ‘fahaman cetek’, ‘degil’ etc. to any person in this blog.

    Until now, you are the one who are giving bad remarks on my religion. I DIDN’T START ALL THIS. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO STARTED ALL THIS, not me.

    As for me, I think we should always discuss and present our views in the very best possible manner, not by calling names or accusing other people ‘bodoh’, ‘dungu’, ‘degi;’, ‘famaham cetek’ etc.

    [16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and DEBATE WITH THEM IN THE BEST POSSIBLE MANNER. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones.

    I care less about other people’s religion. However, I will defend my religion if other people say something untrue about my religion.

    In almost all cases, we didn’t ‘hentam’ other people’s but other people are the one who started to ‘hentam’ us.

    Rgds.

  40. Salam Tun,

    Ingin saya kongsi bersama terjemahan Surah Muhammad bagi semua membaca dan menghayatinya.

    47:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    [47:1] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of GOD, He nullifies their works.

    [47:2] Those who believe and work righteousness, and believe in what was sent down to Muhammad – which is the truth from their Lord – He remits their sins, and blesses them with contentment.

    [47:3] This is because those who disbelieve are following falsehood, while those who believe are following the truth from their Lord. GOD thus cites for the people their examples.

    [47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste.

    [47:5] He will guide them, and bless them with contentment.

    [47:6] He will admit them into Paradise, that He described to them.

    [47:7] O you who believe, if you support GOD, He will support you, and strengthen your foothold.

    [47:8] Those who disbelieve incur misery; He causes their works to be utterly in vain.

    [47:9] That is because they hated what GOD revealed and consequently, He nullifies their works.

    [47:10] Did they not roam the earth and see the consequences for those before them? GOD destroyed their works; all disbelievers will suffer the same fate.

    [47:11] This is because GOD is the Lord of those who believe, while the disbelievers have no lord.

    [47:12] GOD admits those who believe and lead a righteous life into gardens with flowing streams. As for those who disbelieve, they live and eat like the animals eat, then end up in the hellfire.

    [47:13] Many a community was much stronger than the community that evicted you from your town; when we annihilated them, no one could help them.

    [47:14] Are those enlightened by their Lord the same as those whose evil works are adorned in their eyes, and they follow their own opinions?

    [47:15] The allegory of Paradise that is promised for the righteous is this: it has rivers of unpolluted water, and rivers of fresh milk, and rivers of wine – delicious for the drinkers – and rivers of strained honey. They have all kinds of fruits therein, and forgiveness from their Lord. (Are they better) or those who abide forever in the hellfire, and drink hellish water that tears up their intestines?

    [47:16] Some of them listen to you, then as soon as they leave they ask those who were enlightened, “What did he just say?” GOD thus seals their hearts and, consequently, they follow only their opinions.

    [47:17] As for those who are guided, He augments their guidance, and grants them their righteousness.

    [47:18] Are they waiting until the Hour comes to them suddenly? All the signs thereof have already come.* Once the Hour comes to them, how will they benefit from their message?

    Laa Elaaha Ellaa Allah: First Commandment

    [47:19] You shall know that: “There is no other god beside GOD,”* and ask forgiveness of your sins and the sins of all believing men and women. GOD is fully aware of your decisions and your ultimate destiny.

    Exposing the Hypocrites

    [47:20] Those who believed said: “When will a new sura be revealed?” But when a straightforward sura was revealed, wherein fighting was mentioned, you would see those who harbored doubts in their hearts looking at you, as if death had already come to them. They were thus exposed.

    Proof of Faith During Muhammad’s Era

    [47:21] Obedience and righteous utterances are expected of them. If only they showed confidence in GOD, when mobilization was called for, it would have been better for them.

    [47:22] Is it also your intention that as soon as you leave you will commit evil and mistreat your relatives?

    [47:23] It is those who incurred a curse from GOD, whereby He rendered them deaf and blind.

    Study the Quran

    [47:24] Why do they not study the Quran carefully? Do they have locks on their minds?

    [47:25] Surely, those who slide back, after the guidance has been manifested to them, the devil has enticed them and led them on.

    [47:26] This is because they said to those who hated what GOD has sent down, “We will obey you in certain matters.” GOD fully knows their secret conspiracies.

    [47:27] How will it be for them when the angels put them to death? They will beat them on their faces and their rear ends.

    [47:28] This is because they followed what angered GOD and hated the things that please Him. Consequently, He has nullified their works.

    [47:29] Did those who harbor doubts in their hearts think that GOD will not bring out their evil thoughts?

    [47:30] If we will, we can expose them for you, so that you can recognize them just by looking at them. However, you can recognize them by the way they talk. GOD is fully aware of all your works.

    [47:31] We will certainly put you to the test, in order to distinguish those among you who strive, and steadfastly persevere. We must expose your true qualities.

    [47:32] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of GOD, and oppose the messenger after the guidance has been manifested for them, will never hurt GOD in the least. Instead, He nullifies their works.

    [47:33] O you who believe, you shall obey GOD, and obey the messenger. Otherwise, all your works will be in vain.

    The Great Disaster

    [47:34] Those who disbelieve and repel from the path of GOD, then die as disbelievers, GOD will never forgive them.

    [47:35] Therefore, you shall not waver and surrender in pursuit of peace, for you are guaranteed victory, and GOD is with you. He will never waste your efforts.

    [47:36] This worldly life is no more than play and vanity. But if you believe and lead a righteous life, He will reward you, without asking you for any money.

    [47:37] If He asked you for money, to the extent of creating a hardship for you, you might have become stingy, and your hidden evil might be exposed.

    Warning to the Arabs

    [47:38] You are invited to spend in the cause of GOD, but some of you turn stingy. The stingy are stingy towards their own souls. GOD is Rich, while you are poor. If you turn away, He will substitute other people in your place, and they will not be like you.

  41. Salam Tun,

    Ramai orang di dalam blog Tun tidak menyukai pendapat sesetengah pihak yang kononnya ‘anti-hadith’. Mereka mengatakan sesuatu yang jauh dari kebenaran asas kepercayaan golongan ‘anti-hadith’. Mereka hanya menuduh tanpa usul periksa malah dengan membabi buta sahaja. Mereka terasa akan setiap isu yang dibangkitkan oleh golongan ‘anti-hadith’, mengenai mereka dan mungkin juga tidak terjawab oleh mereka. Dengan itu, mereka berasa amat marah dan mengutuk keras akan pendapat golongan ‘anti-hadith’.

    Di sini, kita ingin mencari kebenaran. Dengan adanya blog Tun ini, kita semua dapat menulis dan berkongsi pendapat kita mengenai Islam yang sebenar yang diajar oleh Nabi kita iaitu Muhammad melalui ajaran Al Quran. Setiap umat Islam wajib beriman dan percaya akan isi kandungan Al Quran dan hanya Al Quran sebagai rujukan harian. Tidak ada kitab selain dari Al Quran yang diwahyukan oleh Allah swt kepada Nabi Muhammad. Jadi mahu tidak mahu, kita wajib percaya dengan segala isi kandungannya dengan mempelajarinya dengan hati yang ikhlas.

    Tetapi yang masalahnya, apabila umat Islam mengadakan rujukan lain selain dari Al Quran untuk menerangkan kepada mereka kononnya Al Quran itu susah difahami dan juga kerana ada musuh-musuh Islam yang ingin melihat orang Islam tidak beriman dengan Al Quran lagi. Dengan itu, Islam menjadi mundur disebabkan terlalu banyak ajaran dan ikutan yang tidak berlandaskan ajaran Allah swt. Mana mungkin tulisan manusia di dalam buku selain Al Quran menyamai Al Quran yang Allah sendiri memanggilnya ‘Kareem’.

    Golongan ini mengatakan mengikuti Al Quran sahaja tidak mencukupi. Mereka ingin lebih dari itu. Mereka ingin orang Islam menggunakan 2 kitab sepertimana Iblis ingin memesongkan orang Islam dari ajaran yang benar. Iblis akan mencari setiap detik dan masa untuk menyesatkan umat Islam kerana itulah tugas Iblis untuk menyesatkan umat manusia dari ajaran Allah. Maka, selagi orang Islam mempercayai selain dari Al Quran, selagi itulah mereka tidak mendapat kebenaran akan ‘message’ Allah yang terkandung di dalam Al Quran.

    Kamu boleh berhujah panjang menggunakan hadith yang terbaik atau yang tersahih di dalam dunia, tetapi ianya masih tidak dapat menandingi Al Quran walau sejauh mana hebatnya tulisan mereka. Jadi lebih baik kamu mempelajari Al Quran dan bandingkanlah dengan Hadith yang kamu pelajari dan InsyAllah kamu akan melihatnya sendiri. Bukan tugas manusia untuk menjamin kejayaan sesama manusia di dalam dunia ini. Itu semua terserah kepada Allah swt. Allah sahajalah yang dapat memberi hidayah kepada kita dan menentukan siapa yang berhak mendapat ganjaran syurga yang dijanjikan. Tetapi ingin saya ingatkan di sini bahawa Al Quran sahajalah yang boleh mengajar manusia untuk mendekati Allah kerana Al Quran itu sendiri merupakan ‘ubat’ kepada sesiapa yang ikhlas membacanya serta mencari jawapan.

    Bagi zulkiflee, saya cadangkan anda berhenti mengatakan sesuatu yang anda sendiri tidak pasti akan amal kami. Kamu mengatakan kamu tidak memuja Muhammad, sedangkan di masjid berdekatan rumah saya ini kedengaran Imam melaungkan nama Muhammad setiap kali siap habis 2 rakaat solat sunat terawikh, dan tengah hari tadi saya ke masjid untuk menunaikan solat jumaat juga, Imam itu melaungkan nama Muhammad dan Ibrahim dan sahabat-sahabatnya serta nama Raja negeri. Jadi apakah ini sah di dalam rukun solat Jumaat? Kamu hanya layak melaungkan nama Allah swt sahaja. Kerana setiap ibadah kamu hanya untuk Allah swt dan tidak kepada mana-mana entiti lain. Walaupun Muhammad itu seorang Nabi dan telah pun wafat, kita tidak harus menyebut namanya hanya kerana kita mencintai baginda. Sedangkan baginda sendiri tidak menyebut atau salawat ke atas diri baginda sendiri, macam mana kamu mengatakan kamu berhak? Kalau kamu betul-betul ingin menuruti ajaran Nabi Muhammad, maka ikutlah apa yang terkandung di dalam Al Quran dan insyAllah kamu akan mendapat petunjuknya.

    Kami tidak bodoh dan tidak pula dungu. Kami tidak mengatakan kami lebih alim atau lebih baik dari sesiapa. Cuma apa yang kami inginkan hanya kepada semua umat manusia, mempelajari Al Quran sebagaimana orang terdahulu mempelajarinya. Itu sahaja. Tanpa perlu ada perantaraan antara kita dengan Allah. Jadi kalau kamu masih lagi tidak mahu mempelajari Al Quran, itu hak kamu. Tetapi yang pastinya kamu adalah di antara orang yang rugi.

    Sekian terima kasih!

  42. Salam Tun.

    I’m most interested at the personal invitation of a ‘Hanan errant boy’ dtan to his ‘bro Iskandar’ (09/08/2012 @ 0900hrs).
    At last there’s opportunity to see both of them, if only the former keeps to his words and make open revelation on the time and place of his choice.

    God willing, I’ll almost certain to sneak in and try to participate in their discussion.
    All the while I’m with this opinion that you and your type don’t have the guts to reveal your true self. I’m wrong and sorry for having ‘that thought’.
    Thank you and please don’t dissappoint all the regular followers of Tun’s blogsite. I’m affirmative the reception will be phenomenal.

  43. Salam Tun

    May I

    //dtanAugust 9, 2012 at 9:00 am | Permalink
    Tun,

    Bro Iskandar,

    Lets have a conversation at my place (My Hood). My Blog-spot
    waytruthnlife.blogspot.ca I’ll post your response
    and you can respond to my response of your response.
    Are you confused yet ?

    Shalom in Yeshuas Name//

    Thanks Bro for the invitation,no I am not confused ..yet.Ok will do as you have suggested one of these days….

    Thanks and take care.

    Peace upon you!

    Thanks Tun

  44. Assalamu’alaikum Tun,

    mohon izin menjawab ulasan anti-hadis ‘hidden secret’….saya tidak akan bertelingkah dgn anda tentang fahaman agama anda atau kenabian Rasyad Khalifa sebagai nabi anda.

    dan saya pun tidak merasa perlu mengembalikan anda kpd kemurnian ajaran Islam yg sejati.anda serta iskandar shah,abdulazizomar dan lain-lain anti-hadis telah memilih jalan sendiri dan itu bukan urusan saya.

    seharus nya ada pihak berwajib yg menguruskan orang-orang murtad seperti anda.namun Islam sedang terlalu lemah dan musuh-musuh Islam sedang perkasa dan berleluasa,jadi apakan daya.

    tapi bila anda dan gerombolan antihadis lain nya secara berterusan menyebar fahaman songsang Iblis dan Rasyad Khalifa,maka anda sekelian perlu di banteras.

    anda berselindung di balik Al-Quran.untuk pengetahuan anda,antihadis bukanlah golongan pertama yg berselindung di sebalik Kemuliaan Al-Quran.

    selidik lah sejarah.

    baca Ibn Katsir,Adz-Dzahabi dan lain-lain untuk melihat bagaimana penafsiran Al-Quran diputar-belit untuk kepentingan yg bertentangan dgn kepentingan Agama Suci ini.

    sejak dari Iblis yg enggan sujud kpd Adam a.s atas dasar Tauhid…sampailah kpd golongan antihadis seperti anda sekelian,yg menolak berbagai asas-asas Agama ini,termasuk lah sholawat keatas Rasulullah s.a.w…sudah sangat banyak mengakibatkan tengkarah yg tidak seharus nya terjadi.

    semua nya gara-gara Bodoh,Degil dan Biadap.berpegang kpd fahaman cetek yg amat bodoh,berdegil mempertahankan nya tanpa merasa perlu mempertingkat ilmu kefahaman diri sendiri dan secara biadap memperlekehkan amalan-amalan Umat Islam,termasuk bersholawat ke atas Rasulullah s.a.w dan Keluarga Baginda yg suci.

    antihadis,anda sekelian hanyalah orang-orang dungu yg diperalatkan oleh musuh-musuh Islam.kalau anda benar-benar dungu,anda masih boleh di maafkan.tapi perlu lah anda bersungguh-sungguh melakukan penyelidikkan ala-CSI mengenai sejarah Agama ini.

    saya akui terdapat terlalu banyak hadis yg dipalsukan tapi menolak seluruh hadis bukanlah jalan keluar dari kedunguan anda sekarang.

    dan untuk pengetahuan anda,dalam Agama ini tidak orang yg menyembah Muhammad,Rasulullah s.a.w,seperti yg selalu anda debatkan.namun kami dituntut menyintai Baginda s.a.w dan keluarga yg suci.

    buat lah CSI keatas sejarah,dari saat Rasullulah s.a.w sedang sakit menjelang wafat nya hingga kpd peperangan Siffin,Jamal dan Nahrawan.ia akan bermanfaat mempertingkat kefahaman Ilmu,Iman dan Cinta anda kpd Allah ‘Azza waJalla.

    dan berhenti lah dari mengatakan yg bukan-bukan mengenai Islam sebab anda hanya memperkecohkan keadaan.

    jgn jadi orang yg mengatakan kalimah yg Haq tapi dgn niat yg Batil.sebab orang-orang begini,darah nya adalah halal.

    terimakasih Tun

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    DIMANA PULA YG BENAR ?

  46. Salam Sejahtera Tun,

    Semua ini berlaku kerana pelajaran Agama di akedemikkan, dapat segulung ijazah dah di iktiraf sebagai Ulamak, berceramah sana sini atas tafsiran sendiri, maka terbentuklah berbagai2 fahaman.

    Sepatutnya Al Quran dibaca, difahami, diamalkan dalam kehidupan (bertambah baik dengan pengetahuan formal). Pengalaman dari amalan yang telah terbukti di atas diri sendiri (baru berhikmah) itu dicurahkan kepada masyarakat sebagai petunjuk kebenaran ajaran Islam tersebut.

  47. SEJENAK SAYA BERFIKIR
    KITA MANUSIA YG NAK MENGHUKUM MANUSIA LAIN KETERLALUAN KENAPA ? WHY ?

    MENURUT PERINTAH AGAMA ?
    MENURUT EGO MASING MASING ?
    NAK MENUJUKAN YG KITA INI BENAR DAN MEREKA ITU SALAH ?

    APA KURANG NYA KITA
    KADANG KALA SI YANG MENJATUHKAN HUKUMAN INI
    MEREKA LEBIH DASHAT DARI SI PERLAKU
    CUMA MUNGKIN KEAIBAN MEREKA BELUM TERSERLAH

    NAMUN MENGHUKUM INI PERLU
    BAGI MENGAWAL KESEJAHTERAAN MANUSIA
    PERBUATAN SALAH TIDAK BOLIH DIIZINKAN MEMUDARATKAN MASYARAKAT

    SEBAGAI MANUSIA
    JANGAN KITA HINA SI PERSALAH
    BESOK BESOK MEREKA JADI MANUSIA LEBIH SEMPURNA DARI KITA , MANA KITA TAHU

    ALLAH YG BERHAK
    ALLAH YG MENGETAHUI
    ALLAH YG AKAN MENGHUKUM

    HUKUMAN MANUSIA TIDAK AKAN SETIMPAL
    TIDAK AKAN ADIL
    HUKUMAN MANUSIA HANYA UNTUK MEMBENDUNG KE ARAH MASYARAKAT YG BERTAMADUN

  48. Salam YAB & diKasihi Tun,

    1. Ini contoh perlakuan yang boleh merosak dan memburuk imej Islam kerana mereka yang melakukan PEMBUNUHAN & yang bersubahat (tukang sorak) mengaku mereka orang Islam. Lagi pelik ialah cuma seorang sahaja yang dihukum. Mana pasangannya? Logikkah untuk menjatuhkan hukuman zina tanpa ada pasangan & tertuduh tidak berpeluang untuk membela diri?

    2. Di Malaysia pula, Kerajaan Malaysia masih dianggap teramat KEJAM walaupun orang yang dituduh meliwat boleh dengan bebas memilih peguam-peguam yang handal dan setelah beberapa tahun perbicaraan berjalan, manusia ini bebas dari tuduhan; tertuduh boleh pula mohon tangguh perbicaraan banyak kali sampai boleh pecah rekod.

    3. Apa pun cara pembunuhan wanita tersebut memang tidak berperikemanusiaan. Amat memalukan.

    Terima kasih Tun.

    *** Semoga Allah SWT melindungi Tun sekeluarga. ***

  49. Salam Tun

    May I ..wajaperak

    //4.Tanpa ilmu yang di akui tatacara pembelajarannya oleh ulama’-ulama’ muktabar seperti Imam Ghazali ‘Hujjatul Islam’ bagaimanakah caranya kita nak beribadah?//

    salam Bro wajaperak

    1-Bubbles kata kalau nak mencari kebenaran orang orang anti hadis mestilah bersikap buka hati dan bertanyalah kepada tuan .Sebenarnya kami memangnya senantiasa nak mendengar hujah dari tuan atau sesiapa pun,kalau hujahnya selari dengan sunnah Allah,past kami boleh terima.Seikhlasnya kami memang selalu ternanti2 hujah tuan yang kami iktiraf kuat dalam pemikiran mainstream .

    2-Sebenarnya kami yang ‘anti hadis’ ni memanglah yang jenis terbuka.Kami tidak dilahir dan dibesarkan oleh ibu bapa kami untok menjadi anti hadis..tidak sama sekali.

    3-Telah berdekad lamanya saya meyakini hadis sehinggalah saya ‘tersilap’ melayari blog Tun ini di’pesongkan’ oleh Abdulaziz omar dan hidden secrets dengan hujah2 mereka yang disokong oleh al Quran,tahun lepas.

    4-Kalau minda saya tertutup pastilah saya tak akan nampak apa apa kepincangan langsung dan kekal meyakini hadis sepertimana bapa dan tok nenek saya yakini dan enggan sama sekali mahu menerima atau menyelidik apa apa pun dakwaan pengkritiknya terhadapnya.

    5-Tetapi bagi saya hujah hujah tuan selalunya adalah terlalu tinggi tarafnya untok orang yang kebiasaan seperti saya nak paham.Ianya penuh misteri/metafisik dan diselit dengan ilmu2 yang tiada kepada saya..dalam bahasa mudahnya bahasa tuan wajaperak ni mungkin imam al Ghazali dan bubbles aje kot yang faham .

    6-Adekalanya ianya seperti tulisan orang politik yang bermain tai-chi dan terawang awang di udara.

    7-Mungkin mulai dari sekarang bolehlah tuan mengguna bahasa yang lebih mudah membantu mengajar kami kembali ke pangkal jalan .

    8-Jawablah setiap pertanyaan kami secara ikhlas dan penuh kasih sayang dan kalau boleh cobalah patahkan hujah yang selalu di bangkitkan dengan mengemukakan dalil dari Qur’an dan sunnah Allah dan bukan dengan falsafah canggih yang cuma mereka yang melihat dengan mata ketiga sahaja boleh faham.Kalau boleh andaikan kami semua ni masih bertaraf dua mata sahaja.

    9-Contoh2 persoalan ialah benarkah Khulafa Rashdin mengharamkan hadis sebab takut ummah akan keliru antara kalam Allah dan mana kalam Muhammad?Kalau tidak mengapa tidak mereka sendiri yang mengarang hadis sebab mereka yang paling kenal rasullullah.Mengapakah hadis yang diterima pakai kini hanya dibukukan dua ratus tahun selepas nabi …dan lain2 perkara yang seangkatan dengan nya.

    10-Sebelum saya mengundurkan diri mari kita berbalik kepada petikkan kata kata tuan diatas sana”,kalau tanpa ilmu dari hujatul islam imam al Ghazali,bagaimanakah caranya kita nak beribadah?’

    11-Apakah tuan bermaksud selama hamper empat ratus tahun sebelum lahirnya imam al Ghazali dan ulamak muktabar lain orang Islam semua tak tahu beribadat? Tolong jelaskan.

    Terima kasih

  50. Tun,

    Please pass this message to Iskandar Shah 2.

    Bro Iskandar,

    Lets have a conversation at my place (My Hood). My Blog-spot
    waytruthnlife.blogspot.ca I’ll post your response
    and you can respond to my response of your response.
    Are you confused yet ? 🙂

    Shalom in Yeshuas Name

  51. Salam Tun.

    Selamat berpuasa kepada semua Muslimin & Muslimah, semoga semua ibadah ikhlas kita dibulan yang mulia ini diterima Nya serta diberi ganjaran.
    Saya amatlah mengharapkan kita semua berupaya menghindari segala jenis pemesongan akidah yang dijalankan/diusahakan oleh orang2 kafir menerusi/melalui manusia yang mengakui diri mereka sebagai seorang Muslim.

    Terima kasih kepada saudara ‘zulkiflee’ (07/08/2012 @11:57am)yang secara ringkas dan padat memberi satu contoh “Islam agama sempurna”.

  52. Salam Tun,

    Sudah menjadi kebiasaan bagi kaum lelaki di Pakistan dan Afghanistan mengatakan mereka lebih ‘mulia’ dari kaum wanita. Mereka yang lebih berkuasa dan kaum wanita hanya perlu tinggal di rumah dan jaga anak-anak mereka. Kaum lelaki sahaja yang berhak keluar rumah dan mencari rezeki.

    Saya sudah pun pergi ke Pakistan hampir 4 kali dalam hidup saya kerana saya mempunyai keluarga di sana yang tinggal di bandar Abbottabad, kira-kira 3 jam perjalanan dengan kereta dari Islamabad. Setiap kali saya ke sana, saya amat teruja dengan kerenah orang di sana di mana jarang saya melihat kaum wanita berurusan dengan kaum lelaki. Kaum wanita hanya boleh keluar rumah dengan memakai ‘burqa’ menutupi setiap inci badan mereka tetapi hanya mata sahaja yang nampak. Ini amat janggal bagi saya ketika saya menaiki teksi bersama kaum wanita (ahli keluarga saya di sana). Mereka yang sudah berkahwin tidak dibenarkan menunjukkan walau sedikit kulit mereka. Mereka perlu menutup seluruh aurat mereka walaupun ianya menyusahkan pergerakkan mereka serta keselesaan mereka. Mereka pikir, dengan memakai pakaian sebegitu, maka mereka lebih alim dan mengikuti ajaran Islam yang sebenar. Inilah hakikatnya yang berlaku di Pakistan.

    Kaum lelaki di sana memang menindas kaum wanita sehebat-hebatnya demi kepentingan mereka sendiri. Dan mereka menggunakan agama Islam sebagai alasan atas tindakan mereka itu. Kadang-kadang, di Malaysia pun ada segelintir kaum wanita yang memakai sebegitu setelah menghadiri kelas dakwah bersama Uztaz mereka. Mereka pikir kononnya dengan memakai pakaian sebegitu, mereka lebih alim walaupun amal dan takwa mereka belum pasti mengikuti perintah Allah. Sedangkan dalam Islam, Allah menyatakan, pakaian yang paling baik di antara kamu adalah pakaian yang takwa. Bukannya menutup setiap inci badan kamu. Tetapi ada hadnya yang juga diterangkan dengan jelas di dalam Al Quran mengenai aurat.

    Tidak ada gunanya memakai tudung di kalangan kaum wanita di Malaysia ini tetapi memakai baju dan seluar yang menonjolkan bentuk badan sehingga menarik perhatian orang lain. Di Kelantan terutamanya, terlalu ramai kaum wanita yang memakai sebegitu rupa. Tetapi apabila ditanya kepada mereka mengenai pemakaian itu, mereka menjawab dengan selamba, mereka bertudung!! Jadi adakah memakai tudung itu menunjukkan kita lebih Islam dari yang lain walhal kita menonjolkan bentuk badan kita dengan memakai baju yang ketat serta seluar jeans yang ketat? Jadi apakah logiknya mereka menutup ‘aurat’ tetapi menonjolkan aurat yang lain? Jelaslah pemakaian sebegini bagi saya bukan pemakaian yang mencerminkan ajaran Islam yang sebenar.

    Bagi mereka yang masih lagi tidak percaya akan kesesatan umat Islam di merata dunia, saya syorkan agar mereka jelajahlah ke negara seperti Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, dan timur tengah di mana anda dapat memerhati sendiri bagaimana kaum lelaki di sana melayani kaum wanita. Kita harus melihat lebih jauh dan mencari penyelesaian yang menyeluruh, tidak hanya di Malaysia. Di Malaysia mungkin kita tidak terlalu diskriminasi terhadap kaum wanita walaupun ada berlaku tetapi di luar sana masih berleluasa. Memang tidak peliklah kalau kaum lelaki di Afghanistan menindas kaum wanita sebegitu rupa. Bagi saya, ini merupakan bencana yang amat besar menghantui umat Islam seluruh dunia. Mereka menggunakan hukum yang tidak sah dan tidak mengikuti Al Quran maka dengan itu, negara Islam sekarang tidak maju malah mundur dan miskin. Mereka tidak berpendidikan seperti orang Eropah atau China yang sudah pun malangkaui jauh ke hadapan. Orang Amerika sudah pun sampai ke planet Marikh tetapi kita masih lagi memilih untuk hidup dengan undang-undang kuno!!

    Bagi mereka yang ingin melihat Islam kembali berjaya dan menyaingi bangsa lain, kita harus kembali ke ajaran yang sebenar iaitu Al Quran. Dan pelajarilah dengan hati yang ikhlas untuk mendapat petunjuk Allah swt. Pendidikan adalah asas kepada kejayaan setiap manusia. Selain iman dan takwa yang betul, kita harus berlumba-lumba mencari ilmu yang baik demi memajukan Islam. Dengan harapan ini sahajalah Islam akan kembali maju dan gah di dunia ini.

    Sekian, terima kasih.

  53. Salam Tun,

    Sudah menjadi lumrah orang Islam, apabila Tun menulis mengenai peristiwa berkaitan perlakuan orang Islam, mereka terus melatah walaupun apa yang ditulis oleh Tun jelas benar.

    Mereka mempunyai ego yang agak besar untuk menerima hakikat yang sebenar mengenai kesesatan umat Islam kini yang jelas tidak terkawal lagi. Mereka masih lagi rela menuding jari kepada orang lain atau pun kononnya musuh Islam dari barat, anti-hadith, dan lain-lain.

    Tetapi lebih elok jika kita semua membaca kitab al Quran dan mencari kebenarannya yang diajar kepada Nabi Muhammad oleh Allah swt. Kalau kita semua sepakat maka sudah pasti tidak akan ada kecacatan kepada perlakuan orang Islam. Islam boleh berkembang maju dan menjadi orang yang dihormati.

    Pada hari Ahad lalu, NASA telah berjaya mendaratkan ‘Curiosity’ di planet Mars. Saya gembira mengenai perkembangan dan kejayaan umat manusia sudahpun berjaya mencari ilmu sampai ke luar Bumi. Tetapi dalam kegembiraan itu, saya juga sedih melihat orang Islam yang masih lagi bergaduh mengenai bila tarikh puasa, tarikh hari raya, macam mana nak cukur janggut, macam mana nak itu dan ini tetapi sanggup melepas peluang untuk berjuang mencari ilmu sains untuk mendekati diri dengan Allah swt. Kerana melalui sains, kita dapat mengetahui ilmu tentang kebesaran Allah swt dengan itu ia dapat menyakinkan kita akan kewujudan kuasa Allah di muka bumi. Tetapi kisah masih lagi bergaduh sesama Muslim untuk mengatakan siapa yang lebih alim kononnya!

    Bagi mereka yang menentang ajaran Nabi melalui Al Quran, itu hak mereka, dan bagi mereka yang menentang ajaran Nabi melalui tulisan sahabat dan orang terdahulu seperti Muslim, Abu Hurairah, Ahmed, itu juga hak mereka. Hanya Allah swt yang berhak ke atas umat-Nya dan saya yakin Allah akan menghukum mereka yang mengajar sesesuatu lain dari Al Quran kerana Al Quran adalah utusan Allah kepada seluruh umat manusia……

    Teruskan perjuanganmu Tun. Jangan endahkan desakan sesetengah pihak agar Tun tidak menulis mengenai keburukan orang Islam. Mereka sanggup membiarkan orang Islam berlaku seperti binatang daripada ditegur atau diajar. Inilah kelakuan orang Arab dahulu sebelum kedatangan Islam. Mereka hidup mengikut hawa nafsu, jauh sekali bertuhankan yang Maha Esa.

    Sekian, terima kasih Tun!

  54. Salam Tun

    May I respond to bro Dtan

    //Does Iskandar know why millions of Africans or Indonesians
    have found Yeshua. Its not just disillusionment. Yeshua has
    begun to appear in dreams to oppressed Muslims. Those
    oppressed by their own Brethren. No one preached to them.
    They actually seek out Missionaries. Islam’s inner conflict
    which is growing exponentially. I’m afraid, if Israel is gone
    from the middle-east. Someone else is going to be the scapegoat. I’m pretty sure it is going to be Christians. Actually, the Coptics are the targets now. Lastly, Missionary Work. Why not? If there is ‘no compulsion in religion’(Surah 2:256) then one should be free to freely leave the faith or is that just a mantra? //

    1-Dear dtan I am not keen to start a Muslim-Christian dialogue here but I must respond somehow to you.

    2-The only thing you people had succeeded we Muslims has not is the ability to get out of the crutches of the church that had kept you in the dark ages a few centuries ago -at a time we were the ones enlightened with a Golden Age just before our ‘church’ took over.

    3-We Muslims had been kept closed by these self righteous and insecured religious authorities who are quick to condemn us to apostacy the moment we challenge their wrong practises,like holding on to time bound secondary documents that not only may be irrelevant for another time,it is also doubted to be authentic materials in the first place.Without even allowing a fair debate they have condemned these critical minded people apostates,so that the mainstream will be kept away from them.

    4-Once we can come out of the control of our ‘ medieval church’,which we will eventually, let me assure you how it is ready to do what it has delivered to mankind before.The principles behind the religion of the true God is far too superior for any man made religion with strange God concepts can ever hope to match.

    5-The ugly side of Islam now is due to this corruption that most indoctrinated Muslims will not see and instead want to keep it going forever for their salvation.This is what indoctrination is supposed do to people.

    6-Your trinity concept is not a more superior concept than the absolute One God that the trinitarians also would want to believe.Your only claim that Christianity is the truth is that Yeshua is revealing himself to the Muslims.

    7-True religion of God must be supported by reason and not superstition like ‘,yeshua revealing himself to the people’.The creator of the heavens and the earth is not desperate for us to believe in Him that he has to come to reveal himself to us.What ever happen to his people who he has sent to spread the message,all sleeping that God must do this job himself?

    8-He has given us free will,to believe or not believe in Him.His signs are clear in His creation for those who want to believe.Of course with the more superior material success on the side of the Christians now you look better than us,so your strange beliefs also look better than ours.

    9-But people who understand the truth of Christianity, its history and its religious texts will know better.Most of the people who converted to Islam from Christianity happen to be the ones learned in Christianity,like priests and pastors.They know that Islam is just a continuation of Christianity,that Jesus also came to preach the one true God just as Abraham,Moses and the other prophets all had come to do.

    10-The trinity ‘one in three,three in one’ is one strange innovation by Paul that has no clear biblical support let alone logical support.Watch the priest fumble as they try to explain the concept..Its like the orange there are three things the skin,the flesh and the seed,or its like the egg it has the shell,the white and the york..this is how they try to explain their God!!!And when you start questioning more and they will start excusing themselves immediately.Let me assure you Dtan you don’t want to see your priests ‘sweat’ as they explain the trinity.

    11-You are just lucky the Muslims had been confused by their ‘church’,that is all.But dtan it won’t be forever.So make hay while the sunshine bro..

    Thanks Tun.

  55. Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..

    Semoga Tun sudi mengizinkan ruangan…

    Tuan Bubbles..

    Apakah yang sebenarnya berlaku bila Malaikat membantah Allah di dalam Surah Al Baqarah tentang hasrat Allah ingin menjadikan manusia?..

    “Sesungguhnya Aku hendak menjadikan seorang khalifah di muka bumi – al Baqarah:30
    Lalu malaikat berkata “mengapa Engkau hendak menjadikan khalifah di bumi itu orang yang akan membuat kerosakan dan menumpahkan darah?..

    Dan malaikat cuba menonjolkan ‘fakta’..

    pada hal kami sentiasa bertasbih dengan memuji dan mensucikan Engkau?..

    Lantas Allah menemplak mereka..

    Tuhan berfirman: “sesungguhnya Aku mengetahui apa yang kamu tidak ketahui (al Baqarah:30)..

    AL Baqarah [31]
    Dan Ia telah mengajarkan Nabi Adam, akan segala nama benda-benda dan gunanya, kemudian ditunjukkannya kepada malaikat lalu Ia berfirman: “Terangkanlah kepadaKu nama benda-benda ini semuanya jika kamu golongan yang benar”.

    Malaikat mengaku salah..
    Al Baqarah[32]
    Malaikat itu menjawab: “Maha suci Engkau (Ya Allah)! Kami tidak mempunyai pengetahuan selain dari apa yang Engkau ajarkan kepada kami; sesungguhnya Engkau jualah yang Maha Mengetahui, lagi Maha Bijaksana”.

    Tuan Bubbles..
    1.Al Quran itu penuh keajaiban bagi setiap kalimahnya apatah lagi ayat-ayatnya..Mereka yang belajar Al Quran secara konvensional sebagaimana kita dan Umat Islam seluruh dunia akan memahami bahawa kita hanya di minta ‘mengikhlaskan diri di dalam beragama’..

    2.Untuk menunaikan tanggungjawab kita sebagai umat Islam mestilah berilmu.Tanpa ilmu bagaimana kita hendak mengetahui sifat-sifat Allah?

    3.Dengan ilmu dapatlah kita memahami apakah dia kesucian dan kebersihan sebelum di benarkan beribadah..

    4.Tanpa ilmu yang di akui tatacara pembelajarannya oleh ulama’-ulama’ muktabar seperti Imam Ghazali ‘Hujjatul Islam’ bagaimanakah caranya kita nak beribadah?

    5.Akhir sekali kita kembali kepada kepercayaan itu sendiri.Di dalam perubatan moden,ubat hanya akan bertindak kepada aduan kesakitan rupa bentuk fizikal ( biology and physiology ) tetapi tidak kepada kejiwaan.Islam mengutamakan kejiwaan.Ketenangan dan kebersihan jiwa itu sendiri.Mereka yang mengamalkan lain daripada kepercayaan kita adalah bukan dari golongan kita.

    6.”Tolaklah kejahatan dengan cara yang lebih baik”..Orang-orang Israel dan Serbia dan konco-konco mereka amat suka akan perintah Allah ini.Bila mereka mengganas mereka berbuat sesuka hati tetapi bila pejuang-pejuang Islam menuntut bela mereka di rayu supaya mengamalkan perintah Allah ini..:)

    7.Begitulah Tuan Bubbles..Allah jualah yang akan mengadili dan menghakimi perbezaan pendapat kita dan golongan ini.Cuma kita tidak di benarkan beralah ‘lay down and drop dead’.
    8.Kesungguhan apakah yang ada pada para penjudi?..Mereka kehilangan harta benda tetapi masih terus berusaha berjudi?
    Kesungguhan apa pula yang telah hilang dari kita?..Umat yang di seru oleh Allah seperti dalam Surah akhir Ayat An Najm?

    9.Akhirnya Tuan Bubbles seperti mana kita memerlukan tukang sembelih untuk menyembelih binatang ternak kita,kita juga memerlukan umat-umat Islam yang gagah berani seperti tuan untuk terus memerjuangkan Islam tanpa penat,jemu,letih dan berputus asa.

    10.Manusia punya usaha.Allah punya Esa.

    Marilah kita sabar dalam usaha kita berdakwah kepada mereka dengan ilmu.Mereka yang ikhlas bertukar ilmu dan pendapat datanglah ke alamat e mel saya.

    Terima kasih Tuan Bubbles.
    Terima kasih Tun.

  56. Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    Dear ROZALI BIN AYED,

    It has never ever been mentioned anywhere in the Quran that the punishment for adultery is stoning to death.

    Stoning to death for adultery is mentioned in the Torah (Old Testament), in the Book of Deuteronomy, [17:2-7] and [22:23-24].

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning

    However, since it is mentioned indirectly in the Quran that capital punishment for adultery does not exist (refer to Quran [4:16] and [4:25]), the so-called law of stoning to death in the Torah contradicts with the Quran and therefore should not be regarded as a law at all.

    Rgds.

  57. Salam Tun

    May I ,,

    //MiddleAgesAugust 7, 2012 at 8:11 pm ,

    Time for me to say a few words to Iskandar Shah2 with your kind permission Sir………
    9. I have no doubt in my mind you will find your stairway to heaven, which will bring you lots of inner happiness and comfort, sufficient for your entire life. Your political inclination is not important to me, if you support BN and Tun, so be it, that is your cup of tea.//

    Bro,Peace upon you.

    1-Thanks for your empathy and the above kind words.I wish the same for you.

    2-I concur,we should be entitled to the freedom of speech to speak our minds sincerely the way we see things without fear or favor of anyone while tolerating others the same liberty.

    3-We should not take these political opinions personally.And surely most unwise for us to be fighting one another over the politicians.Either its for Najib or Anwar,these guys are simply not worth it.

    4-While we are so stressed up and losing sleep fighting for them for all you know Najib and Annuar can be having a nice friendly meeting somewhere negotiating some deals to benefit each other.In politics there are no permanent enemies,only common interest.And that common interest is usually how they can benefit themselves,and not us.We are just the fools who has the votes they need.

    5-Politicians are people who shake your hands before election and your confidence after that.

    6-Most of us,not just you, are not happy with many things that are structural in nature that no politicians from any side can actually repair easily.The corruption is too entrenched in the system dominated by the capitalist.Maybe its not that bad here compared to America.

    7-But I strongly believe that some natural structural changes will emerge from the aftermath of the global collapse and I am not delusional about that.It will come with a new economic system that would liberate the whole world from all this capitalistic evil….

    8-Nothing bad or good will last forever,have faith bro..

    Thanks Tun

  58. Peace!

    In The Name Of GOD.

    Punishment for adultery as per the Quran and hadith…

    QURAN :

    As per the Quran, there is no execution for punishment for adultery. Please refer to [4:16] and [4:25].

    [4:16] The couple who commits adultery shall be punished.* IF THEY REPENT AND REFORM, YOU SHALL LEAVE THEM ALONE. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful.

    * Footnote for [4:16] : Public exposure of the sinners is a major deterrent, as we see in 5:38 and 24:2.

    [4:25] Those among you who cannot afford to marry free believing women, may marry believing slave women. GOD knows best about your belief, and you are equal to one another, as far as belief is concerned. You shall obtain permission from their guardians before you marry them, and pay them their due dowry equitably. They shall maintain moral behavior, by not committing adultery, or having secret lovers. Once they are freed through marriage, IF THEY COMMIT ADULTERY, THEIR PUNISHMENT SHALL BE HALF OF THAT FOR THE FREE WOMEN.* Marrying a slave shall be a last resort for those unable to wait. To be patient is better for you. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

    * Footnote for [4:25] : This law proves that the punishment for adultery could not possibly be stoning to death as stated in the laws of corrupted Muslims (see 24:2).

    HADITH :

    Bukhari (6:60:79) – Two people guilty of “illegal intercourse” are brought to Muhammad, who commands that they both be stoned. Apparently their act was out of love, however, since the verse records the man as trying to shield the woman from the stones.

    Bukhari (83:37) – Adultery is one of three justifications for killing a person, according to Muhammad.

    Muslim (17:4192) – Clarifies the different penalties for adultery (when the subjects are married), and fornication (when they are not): “in case of married (persons) there is (a punishment) of one hundred lashes and then stoning (to death). And in case of unmarried persons, (the punishment) is one hundred lashes and exile for one year” (See also 17:4191)

    CONCLUSION :

    HADITH CONTRADICTS THE QURAN.

    Any information which contradict with the Quran is not from GOD. It is from sources other than GOD.

    Rgds.

  59. Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    Dear zulkiflee,

    Rashad Khalifa is not a nabi (prophet) as claimed by you (zulkiflee). Rashad Khalifa never claim that he (Rashad Khalifa) is a prophet.

    As per [33:40], Muhammad was the last nabi (prophet) and there will be no nabi (prophet) after Muhammad. As such, Jesus (Isa) will never come again. If Jesus return, he (Jesus) will be the final prophet and Muhammad will then be the second last prophet and this will then violate [33:40].

    [33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. HE WAS a messenger of GOD and THE FINAL PROPHET. GOD is fully aware of all things.

    * Footnote for [33:40] : Despite this clear definition of Muhammad, most Muslims insist that he was the last prophet and also the last messenger. This is a tragic human trait as we see in 40:34. Those who readily believe God realize that God sends His purifying and consolidating Messenger of the Covenant after the final prophet Muhammad (3:81, 33:7).

    Rgds.

  60. Salam Tun,

    Time for me to say a few words to Iskandar Shah2 with your kind permission Sir.

    1. There is no religious freedom in Malaysia, especially for a name like yours, because our present government has not enough strong will power to give us freedom. Dia takut hilang power.

    2. They have to bow to religious people and religious pressure groups, in order to retain power. They have no real power themselves. So we you are hoping for something they can never give.

    3. We therefore have to obey stupid religious laws, and we are not allowed freedom, so that their job is easier. I used to say to the governent, why don’t you just cage everyone up, and give us regular meals, then you can do whatever project in peace. A diet of bananas and some smokes will keep us happy until we all expire.

    4. Mainstream Islam is not going to work. If you do not know know that by now, you are in real danger. They ( the vast majority of muslims ) have got it almost entirely wrong.

    5. The real, beautiful and original Islam is not lost. It is given new names, sometimes entirely alien sounding to Islam. You can find them in Sufism, in Tabliq and such teachings, including the Prophet Muhammads excellent teachings.

    6. But the thing about Islam i found out is that it is easy for those with a good heart, extremely diffcult and burdensome to those wih a bad heart. It is as if Allah knows us already, and there is simply no way to cheat.

    7. You do not have to worry, there is a reason it is one of the greatest religions in the world. Muslims ought to be the most resilient and patient people in the world, able to endure hardships as dished out by the harsh climate of its dessert origins.

    8. People who get emotional quickly, those with “a very short fuse”, means they do not understand how Islam works, and is trying their best to make it work for them. As if they can do better than Allah !

    9. I have no doubt in my mind you will find your stairway to heaven, which will bring you lots of inner happiness and comfort, sufficient for your entire life. Your political inclination is not important to me, if you support BN and Tun, so be it, that is your cup of tea.

    10. People think that just because i support PR and D.S. Anwar, i expect eveyone else to agree and follow me. Well, no ! As i said before i believe in freedom. Freedom of opinion, freedom of religion, freedom of expression and free coffee once a while.

    Thank You Tun

  61. Assalamualaikum W.B.T Yg Bhg Tun,

    Hukum bagi penzina sudah sedia ada tercatat dalam Al-Quran dengan jelas (direjam), dan mengikut sunnah Rasullullah. Apa yang berlaku di Afghan sudah agak keterlaluan menggunakan kaedah moden (menggunakan senjata api) dan boleh menjejaskan imej Islam. Pintu taubat sentiasa terbuka bagi umat Islam yang ingin bertaubat nasuha setelah melakukan kesalahan walau sebesar mana sekalipun terhadap syariat Islam. Kita bersyukur kerana Malaysia mangamalkan hukum Islam yang berlandaskan Al-Quran dan Hadis Nabi, dan insya’Allah akan menuju kepada hukum HUDUD pada suatu ketika nanti.

    Sekian, Wassalam.

  62. Tun,
    Ada kisah mengenai penzina pada zaman Nabi Isa.Kisah itu begini lah lebih kurang.
    Ada sekumpulan penduduk datang berjumpa dengan Nabi Isa meminta beliau menghukum sepasang lelaki dan wanita yang telah berzina.
    Nabi Isa pada mulanya tidak mengendahkan permintaan mereka tetapi setelah didesak beberapa kali barulah beliau mengalah lalu bertanya kepada penduduk terlibat, “Baiklah, sesiapa antara kamu yang merasa dirinya bersih dan tidak melakukan apa-apa dosa bolehlah jadi orang pertama yang melontarkan batu terhadap kedua-dua pesalah berzina ini.”
    Disebabkan tiada antara penduduk tersebut yang merasakan diri mereka bersih daripada dosa maka tiada seorang pun yang berani melontarkan batu terhadap pasangan itu dan pasangan itu pun akhirnya bebas begitu sahaja setelah menyesali perbuatan mereka.
    Apa pengajaran yang kita boleh dapat daripada kisah di atas?
    Banyak pengajaran yang boleh diperolehi tetapi yang penting ialah sikap masyarakat pada masa zaman Nabi Isa berbanding masyarakat sekarang.
    Masyarakat masa itu jujur dengan diri masing-masing sehingga tiada seorang pun sanggup melontarkan batu ke arah pasangan itu setelah mendapati diri masing-masing juga tidak lepas atau bersih daripada dosa.
    Manakala masyarakat sekarang jika perkara yang sama berlaku akan berebut-rebut melontarkan batu terhadap pesalah yang melakukan zina walaupun mereka tidak kurang melakukan pelbagai dosa seperti memfitnah, menipu, memburuk-burukkan orang lain dan mungkin mereka juga terlibat dengan zina.
    Masyarakat sekarang langsung tiada sebarang conscience stricken terhadap dosa mereka lakukan cuma mereka nampak dosa yang orang lain lakukan.
    Bukan tujuan saya memburuk-buruk mana-mana pihak tetapi pengalaman pernah mengikuti pihak penguatkuasa mendedahkan saya mengenai betapa bahayanya jika agama diperalatkan untuk memuaskan nafsu pihak tertentu sahaja.
    Sebagai contoh, ada kes melibatkan pihak miskin, mereka dihukum oleh mahkamah kerana tiada wang untuk mendapatkan peguambela.
    Ada kes melibatkan penyanyi tetapi disebabkan penyanyi ada duit mendapatkan peguambela maka penyanyi bebas daripada tuduhan dan hukuman mahkamah.
    Ada juga kes apabila melibatkan pihak anggota penguatkuasa sendiri, pihak terlibat akan berusaha melindungi atau menutup kes itu daripada pengetahuan umum sebab malu kepada orang ramai.
    Adakah ini dinamakan keadilan?Lebih-lebih lagi keadilan atas nama agama?
    Saya rasa pelik tidak terlintas langsung pihak terlibat teringat mengenai dosa yang mungkin mereka tanggung di akhirat nanti kerana bersikap berat sebelah dan mungkin menyalahgunakan kuasa lebih-lebih lagi jika menzalimi orang yang tidak bersalah.
    Tun, seperti yang saya sebutkan daripada pengalaman, saya tahu mengapa ada sebilangan golongan bijak pandai agama tidak mahu terlibat sebagai anggota penguatkuasa dalam kes-kes khalwat, zina mahupun menghukum orang lain.
    Walaupun mereka sebenarnya layak untuk menjadi anggota penguatkuasa, tetapi mereka enggan menyertainya kerana pada pendapat saya mereka bimbang melakukan dosa seperti melakukan ketidakadilan, menyalahgunakan kuasa, menzalimi orang Islam lain dan lebih-lebih lagi menanggung dosa yang berat di akhirat nanti.
    Pada pendapat saya, mereka enggan berbuat demikian kerana berpendapat, apa guna mereka mempelajari dan mendalami ilmu agama jika ia menjadi sia-sia sahaja nanti menanggung dosa orang lain di akhirat nanti kerana tersalah menjatuhkan hukum dan menzalimi orang lain di dunia?
    Maka tinggal lah tugas mencegah mungkar kononnya oleh mereka yang cetek ilmu agama dan berperasaan mereka lebih alim daripada orang lain.
    Tun, walaupun tulisan saya ini secara umum, saya tujukan juga kepada orang seperti wajaperak yang cepat melenting menuduh orang lain sebagai jahil tentang agama dan mereka yang menyentuh isu agama walaupun jika ketidakadilan dilakukan sebagai penentang Islam.
    Wallahu alam.

    Salam Tun.

  63. Peace!

    Apart from Afghanistan, the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, middle east and Egypt are also practicing corrupt practices which is oppressing to the women in their countries.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha%27al

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Misyar

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/egypt-muslim-tourists-buying-underage-girls-for-temporary-marriage-using-and-abandoning-them.html

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/safety/safety_5484.html

    Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the middle east countries are places where majority or big minority of people speak the language of the Quran (Arabic) and people from all over the world (including from Malaysia) go there to study ‘Islam’.

    Don’t be surprise that prostitution (including male prostitution!!!) in a common thing in Mecca. It also happen during Hajj. Just google “prostitution in Mecca”. While the prostitutes in Malaysia wears sexy outfits, the prostitutes in Mecca wear ‘hijab’. Since they wear ‘hijab’, nobody knows who is the person whom you brought back with you into your hotel room, whether she is your wife or a prostitute.

    http://www.timesofummah.com/2011/09/22/5-indonesian-sex-workers-arrested-in-mecca/

    Rgds.

  64. Assalamualaikum Tun,

    Saya sangat setuju dengan apa yang diluahkan ole Idea. Malah Gaddafi telah diseksa dengan begitu kejam sekali, dilakukan seperti binatang malah lebih teruk dari itu. Ini semua dilakukan untuk menakutkan and jadikan sebagai peringatan pada mana mana pemimpin Islam yang tidak mahu berkerjasama dengan pihak pihak tertentu. Malangnya yang jadi Pak sanggup dalam kerja terkutuk ini adalah orang Islam sendiri.

    Ramai orang Islam sekarang yang tidak mangamalkan ajaran Islam yang sebenar. Kebanyakan mereka mengaku Islam tapi tindak tanduk mereka bertentangan dengan Islam. Mereka lebih mentaati perintah manusia dari perintah Allah dan Rasullulah s.a.w. Mereka sanggup jual ugama, bangsa dan negara demi kepentingan dunia seolah olah mereka akan hidup selama lamanya. Mereka lupa bahwa mereka akan berhadapan dengan Allah satu hari nanti dan tiap tiap perbuatan mereka yang bertentangan dengan perintah Allah, mereka akan terima padahnya diakhirat nanti.

    Pada Tuan Wajaperak, sekiranya golongan anti-hadith ini jujur dan ikhlas untuk mencari kebenaran, saya percaya banyak yang mereka boleh belajar dari Tuan. Nampaknya hati mereka sudah tertutup. Assalamualaikum.

  65. Salam Tun dan Semua,

    Ini bukanlah kali pertama kita dengar pembunuhan kejam yang berlaku akibat dari perbuatan umat Islam itu sendiri. Bagi saya ini hanyalah manusia ganas yang kononya bertindak atas dasar agama.

    Sejurus selepas Rasulullah wafat, umat Islam mula terlibat dengan politik kotor sehingga terbunuhnya Saidina Uthman dan Ali. Ini adalah diketuai mereka yang berpura2 alim dan menegakkan keadilan tapi dalam hatinya ada nafsu hasad, dengki dan tamakkan dunia.

    Baru2 ini juga ditunjukkan gambar2 pengawal Ghaddafi yang dibunuh kejam sepertimana boss mereka dibunuh. Seorang dari pengawal wanita tersebut dikhabarkan dirogol beramai2 sebelum dibunuh. Ini adalah orang2 yang menegakkan idealisme baru di negeri Libya kononnya lebih alim lagi warak dari Ghaddafi yang zalim dan kejam. Kempen penggulingan ini kononya harus ditiru oleh orang Malaysia supaya bebas dari pemimpin yang zalim.

    Mereka2 ini selalu didalangi mereka2 yang berpengaruh dalam agama. Mereka boleh mengarahkan orang2 awam bertindak mengikut arahan mereka kononya ianya adalah perintah Tuhan. Tidak mustahil hukuman yang ditetapkan oleh ketua mereka yang panas baran itu boleh berbentuk sesuatu yang ganas dan melibatkan pembunuhan. Di Malaysia sudah saban kali saya dengar bahawa mereka2 ini ingin sekali supaya dapat membunuh atau menggantung Dr M di Chow Kit road.

    Mereka juga mempersoalkan bahawa jika mereka bukan dijalan yang benar mereka tidaklah melaungkan Allahuakbar sebagai slogan. Yang mereka kurang tahu ialah semua kumpulan ganas yang kononnya Islam melaungkan slogan yang sama termasuklah orang2 Syiah yang ghairah untuk menyembelih orang2 Sunni….

    Islam bukanlah disebarkan dengan pedang. Islam adalah agama kasih sayang dari Allah.Tidak mungkin samasekali Rasullullah mengajarkan manusia menjadi seperti ini. Saya hairan, sesetengah orang yang semakin keras amalan agamanya secara otomatik menjadi semakin keras sikapnya, rigid dan prejudis kepada orang lain. Walhal Rasullullah yang paling keras amalannya tetapi paling baik akhlaknya diantara semua manusia.

  66. Assalamualaikum Tun.

    Bila membicarakan pasal hukuman,maka ia berkisar pasal soal hudud.Oleh itu,ia merupakan soal pentadbiran dan pemerintahan.

    Suasana global ketika ini dalam pusingan perubahan.Ulama Islam masih menunggu nunggu akan kemunculan mujaddid kurun ke 15.

    Mujaddid ini dikatakan adalah mujaddid yang diberi kebolehan memerintah seperti mujaddid kurun pertama iaitu Umar Abdul Aziz.

    Mujaddid juga dikenali sebagai Wali Qutub (ketua wali).
    Imam al Ghazali antara salah seorangnya.

    Pada zaman mujaddid ini terangkum segala permasalahan dunia dari kurun kurun sebelumnya.Maka ia dapat disimpulkan bahawa ia adalah permasalahan terkumpul yang dipikul oleh mujaddid ini.

    Artikel di atas hanyalah secebis kisah daei kehidupan dunia masa kini.Tidak termasuk berita majlis risepsi paderi gay di KL pada hari ni.

    Mungkin sahabat Syaikh dapat memperkembangan penulisan tentang perkara ini.

    Terima kasih Tun.

  67. Tun,

    I think the question; rather, should be. Is this an
    anomaly, a trend or an actual belief that prompted
    this Evil reaction to the alleged adultery? If it is
    a belief system. Is it an aberrant action or will
    returning to the source make things better? Go live in
    Saudi? Ask your Indonesian/filipino brethren
    (domestic helpers) what occurs over-there.

    Those who are in-denial will, of course, start citing
    issues that have nothing to do with this topic or make
    up another conspiracy theory.

    Iskandar Shah 2 has a point. Your actions are what people
    see. No amount of ‘Islam is a Religion of Peace’ mantras,
    handing out millions of Karen Armstrong’s book on Islam
    or giving hundreds of millions to Western Universities
    to chair Islamic Studies is going to hide that fact

    The Internet and Global Media has put everything out
    in the open. Tun, even Israeli soldiers hide in buildings
    when an 80year old Left Wing Western Protester chastises
    them for allegedly mishandling a Palestinian. Whereas,
    Shariah is touted as the best thing since ‘sliced bread’

    Does Iskandar know why millions of Africans or Indonesians
    have found Yeshua. Its not just disillusionment. Yeshua has
    begun to appear in dreams to oppressed Muslims. Those
    oppressed by their own Brethren. No one preached to them.
    They actually seek out Missionaries. Islam’s inner conflict
    which is growing exponentially. I’m afraid, if Israel is gone
    from the middle-east. Someone else is going to be the scapegoat. I’m pretty sure it is going to be Christians. Actually, the Coptics are the targets now. Lastly, Missionary Work. Why not? If there is ‘no compulsion in religion'(Surah 2:256) then one should be free to freely leave the faith or is that just a mantra?

    Shalom in Yeshua’s name

  68. Be a human first is our top priority which is to practise forgiveness.
    This act is inhuman.

  69. Assalamu’alaikum Tun,

    cerita-cerita begini umpama pisau bermata dua.ia negatif dan juga positif,tergantung dari sudut mana kita melihat nya.namun,melihat keadaan dunia plastik hari ini,yg majoriti nya berpandangan negatif terhadap Islam,tentu lah kisah seperti ini menjadi satu lagi bahan untuk menghentam Islam.

    orang-orang kafir akan menggembar-gemburkan nya sebagai satu dari sekian banyak kezaliman didalam Islam.

    orang-orang yg separuh kafir akan menganggap nya sebagai tidak berperi kemanusiaan.

    dan orang-orang yg separuh Islam pun akan terikut-ikut memberi label buruk,bukan terhadap Islam,tapi terhadap pengamalan dan pentafsiran hukum Islam.

    secara ringkas nya,setiap yg membaca kisah ini akan membuat andaian yg merugikan imej Islam.perbuatan keji penzina di tenggelami oleh ‘kezaliman’ hukuman yg di jalankan terhadap nya.

    Tun yg saya kasihi,Islam hari ini sudah sangat terdesak di asak bertubi-tubi oleh kekuatan-kekuatan kafir yg begitu perkasa.tidak satu pun musuh Islam dapat kita tangani dgn berkesan.

    malah kini,dgn kekuatan ekonomi,politik,ketenteraan dan jentera propaganda yg mereka ada,musuh-musuh Islam berjaya mencetak pemikiran kita untuk berfikir sejalan dgn pemikiran mereka.

    kredibiliti hukum-hukum didalam Islam tidak dapat dijalankan tanpa mengundang kontroversi yg di perbesar-besarkan.

    kemudian akan berlumba-lumba timbul ‘ulama-ulama’ yg menonjolkan diri mereka sebagai ‘golongan-moderate’ yg berfahaman sederhana dan menjadikan orang-orang yg berpegang-teguh kpd hukum asas sebagai golongan pelampau yg extreme.

    antara komen awal topik ini adalah dari anti-hadis Hidden Secret yg mengambil kesempatan menonjolkan ajaran ‘suci’ nabi mereka Rasyad Khalifa.

    setiap masalah yg menimpa kita,mereka jadikan peluang menonjolkan betapa ‘benar’ nya ajaran songsang mereka.
    dan mereka berpadu-suara dgn kaum kafir lain menghentam kita.

    orang kafir hendak menonjolkan Islam sebagai agama yg zalim.dan golongan-golongan Islam sendiri mengambil sikap defensif atau ‘berlepas-diri’ dari perbuatan menghukum penzina.lalu golongan yg ‘Islam-tidak-Kafir-pun-tidak’ seperti antihadis mengambil peluang menyebar diayah ‘islam-moderate’ mereka.

    apakah kita akan berakhir dgn sistem ‘pengampunan-dosa’? dan mesjid-mesjid kita perlu di ruang ‘confessional’? dan imam-imam kita di beri wewenang mengampunkan dosa?

    Tun yg saya kasihi,kita sudah di tipu dgn demokrasi,yg terpaksa kita amalkan dgn berleluasa.kini kita di tipu pula dgn hak-asasi yg mencabul hak Agama kita.

    seandai nya Pemimpin Islam yg sehebat Tun pun tidak berdaya menentang diayah orang-orang kafir ini,apakan pula daya kami yg hanya rakyat biasa yg tidak punya suara apa-apa.

    Tun yg saya kasihi,izinkan saya berkongsi cerita.

    di zaman Nabi Musa a.s,orang-orang Yahudi membawa pasangan penzina kpd Nabi Musa a.s untuk di hukum sesuai dgn hukum Taurat.kedua penzina di tanam separuh badan dan di rejam dgn batu sampai mati.

    di zaman Nabi Isa a.s,terjadi kisah yg sama,penzina dibawa kpd Nabi Isa a.s untuk dijatuhkan hukuman sesuai dgn hukum Taurat.Nabi Isa a.s menyuruh orangramai menanam si penzina separuh badan dan kemudian mengumpulkan batu untuk di lontar sebagai hukuman.

    sesudah orangramai ada batu ditangan masing-masing,sebelum mereka melontar,Nabi Isa a.s melangkah ke tengah dan bersabda,

    “siapa di antara kalian yg pernah berbuat dosa,jangan melontarkan batu nya.”

    akhir nya tiada seorang pun yg layak melontar batu untuk menghukum sipenzina sebab setiap orang pernah berbuat dosa,walau dosa-dosa yg jauh lebih kecil dari dosa penzina.

    dan di zaman Rasulullah s.a.w pun terdapat kisah yg hampir sama.seorang wanita datang kpd Rasulullah s.a.w meminta di hukum kerana berzina hingga hamil.Rasulullah s.a.w menyuruh wanita itu pulang dan datang kembali sesudah melahirkan bayi nya.

    sesudah melahirkan,wanita itu datang lagi menuntut hukuman.Rasulullah s.a.w menyuruh nya pulang dan menyusukan bayi nya selama dua tahun.

    dua tahun kemudian wanita itu datang lagi menuntut hukuman.baru lah Rasulullah s.a.w memberi nya hukuman rejam.

    Tun,Islam adalah agama Suci.keterlanjuran seseorang ulama’ menjatuhkan hukum bukan lah sebab yg dapat dijadikan alasan untuk mencemari Kesucian Islam.

    dan tentu sekali propaganda Kafir yg sentiasa menonjolkan Islam sebagai sesuatu yg buruk tidak lah akan berkesan mempengaruhi pemikiran kita.

    hukum merejam penzina adalah berasal dari Taurat.Nabi Musa a.s menyebarkan Islam-Jalal,iaitu Islam yg Tegas.Nabi Isa a.s menentang sikap munafik Yahudi dgn Islam-Jamal iaitu Islam yg Indah.

    dan Rasulullah Muhammad s.a.w mengemukakan Islam-Kamal,Islam yg Sempurna.dan ketiga-tiga bentuk Islam ini di laksanakan sesuai dgn keadaan.tiada penindasan terhadap hak penzina selain dari hukuman terhadap perbuatan zina.

    dan tentu sekali kita pun tidak mahu meminggirkan Hak Allah Subhanaullahu Ta’ala dgn memilih hukum Nya yg mana hendak kita ikut dan hukum mana pula yg hendak kita tinggalkan semata-mata kerana untuk menjaga hati orang-orang kafir.

    terimakasih Tun

  70. SALAM KASIH DAN SAYANG
    AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
    Izinkan,

    Hanya yang mampu kami hamba yang lalai dan tidak sempurna mengingatkan diri bahawasanya hanya Allah SWT Yang Maha Pengasih dan Penyayang dan Maha dengan segala Zat Sifat Sempurna Nya.

    Jika umat manusia memahami apa itu kalimah ‘Bismillahirrahmanirrahim’ dan memancarkan sikap kasih dan sayang antara satu sama lain nescaya perkataan zalim dan kejam hanya tercatit dalam kamus bahasa sahaja.

    Islam itu agama Maha Suci maka pancarkan lah kesucian nya dengan penuh kasih sayang..

    Mohon ampun dan maaf dari kami yang lemah disisi NYA

    ALFATIHAH, AMIN
    Ps. Ikut Nafsu…Jahanam, ikut Iman…Selamat didunia dan akhirat. Wallahualam

  71. DI AFGAN,DI PAKISTAN AGAK ANEH SYSTEM MEREKA
    HUKUM HUDUD,FAHAMAN SAYA ADALAH HUKUM ISLAM
    HUKUM ZINA SEHARUS BEROTAN 100 KALI DENGAN KESAKSIAN 4 ORANG YG MEYAKSIKAN PERZINAAN

    PERLU ADA BUKTI
    PERLU ADA SAKSI

    YG SAYA TAK FAHAM ADA KALANGAN WANITA YG DIROGOL
    PUN BOLIH DITUDUH ZINA,MALAHAN INI BUKAN KEMAHUAN IS WANITA

    ADAKAH HUKUM HUDUD INI BOLIH DIPRAKTIKAN ZAMAN SEKARANG
    SEDANGKAN
    NABI MUHAMAD S.A.W PUN ADA BERKATA
    DIDIKLAH ANAK KAMU MENGIKUT SEMASA ZAMAN KAMU
    ADAKAH HUKUM HUDUD PERLU DI PRATIKAN ZAMAN SEKARANG ATAU MENGIKUT PERBEZAAN ZAMAN

    PERSOALAN IBADAH,PERSOALAN HUKUM
    AGAMA LAIN JUGA ADA PERTIKIAN MASING MASING
    ADA PERCANGAHAN ANTARA
    KRISTIAN SAMA KRISTIAN
    BUDDIST SESAMA BUDDIST

    MUNGKIN APA YG BERLAKU DI AFGAN,DI PAKISTAN ADALAH
    LEBIH PADA BUDAYA DOMINASI MEREKA TERHADAP KAUM WANITA YG MELAMPAU
    MAKSUD SAYA BUDAYA BUKAN HUKUM
    SEPERTI
    ORANG YG BERAMAL TAK BERILMU TIDAK SEMPURNA
    YG BERILMU TIDAK BERAMAL PUN TAK BETUL

    MUNGKIN KURANG ILMU
    TIDAK BERCAMPUR DENGAN DUNIA LUAR
    BUDAYA TINGGI DOMINASI TERHADAP KAUM WANITA
    PUNCA APA YG BERLAKU DI SANA

    APAKAH MADSUD PERPATAH MELAYU

    BIAR MATI ANAK
    JANGAN MATI ADAT

    ADAKAH
    BIAR MATI ANAK HARAM YG TAK BERDOSA
    HANYA KERANA NAK MENJAGA ADAT SAJA

    ADAT BUKAN HUKUM
    ADAT ADALAH KEBIASAAN, KELAZIMAN SESUATU KAUM
    BUKAN HUKUM

    WE..LL, I DON,T KNOW
    WHETHER I GO TO HELL OR TO HEAVEN
    KATA SI LABU

  72. Salam Tun;

    Mana pergi sifat pemurah dan pengasih/penyayang dua sifat Allah yang patut kita semua ada. Hudud pun patut sebat saja kalau betul berzina dan tak perlu sampai mati.

    Afghanistan telahpun dirosakkan oleh ALQaeda ( Osama ) ciptaan USA. Jadi tak heran depa boleh buat macam tu. Samalah Zionist masa Hitler musnahkan Yahudi.Sekarang ni imej Islam di burukkan, pemikiran Islam cara fanatik dll di cipta , jadi untuk musnahkan Islam/negara Islam di halalkan. Osama pun tak mungkin dibunuh sebab tubuhnya/DNAnya pun tak ada untuk dibuktikan.Mungkin Osmaa telah pun buang janggutnya dan lesap hidup kat mana2 sebab dia agen CIA USA. Sifat2 fanatik begitu telah pun ditanam di Afghanistan untuk cari jalan perangi umat Islam. 911 pun disalahkan pada AlQaeda dan fanatik Islam , padahal Osama tu ciptaan USA . Sifat2 fanatik begitu telah pun di canangkan pada orang2 Afghanistan secara halus sebagaimana cara zionist . Itu bukannya ajaran Islam.

    Di Malaysia pun dah ada talibarut yang di sokong USA untuk rosakkan negara , ambil alih pemerintahan negara dan tonjolkan merekalah lebih Islam. Padahal banyak yang munafik sekarang ni. Bukannya nak buat hudud tapi nak perintah negara dan nakkan nikmat dunia. Mereka itu bukannya nak tolong rakyat ,malah air pun tak beres lagi. Tak berdosa ke kalau rakyat nak mandi wajib dan nak ambil air sembahyang tak boleh , padahal pemimpin Islam mereka mewah air. Tak berdosa ke kalau rakyat susah, daif , melarat dan terpaksa merompak makanan nak bagi anak makan tapi dia kena tangkap dan di potong tangan? Padahal pemimpn Islam mereka kaya raya dengan kereta/rumah besar dan tak kisah rakyat yang melarat. Pemimpin2 tu yang patut di hudud dulu. Pemimpin Islam tak boleh lebih senang dari mereka yang dia pimpin, malah Nabi Muhammad, Saidina Abu Bakar, Saidina Umar hidup cara paling daif, malah Nabi sendiri suruh segala harta, makanan di beri pada fakir miskin sebelum wafat. Pemimpin Islam sekarang ni kumpul harta dulu , dan guna Islam/hudud untuk dapat kuasa. Tak berdosa ke kalau masa mereka memerintah rumah urut/maksiat lebih berleluasa ??

    Tun ada cuba malah buat tribunal membicarakan Bush di Malaysia ( tak ada apa2 impact ) . Tetapi tak ada pemimpin Islam yang sanggup tampil membetulkan persepsi baik Islam di mata Dunia. Islam di serang teruk sekali. 911 yang tak logik , 3 bangunan di NewYork runtuh dalam beberapa saat saja, walaupun cuma 2 bangunan di langgar kapal terbang , besi boleh cair dalam beberapa saat ( nak potong pakai torch satu beam pun ambil beberapa minit, inikan pula beratus/ratus beam runtuh ) dan concrete jadi debu, tak ada satu pun pemimpin Islam persoalkan dalam PBB ke untuk pertahankan Islam. Malah apa yang jadi di Myanmar/Palestine/Afghanistan/Syria /Iraq dan kemudiannya Iran ( di rancang sekarang ni ) apa pemimpin2 Islam buat atau akan buat ?

    Tak heran di Malaysia pun dah ada Talibarut USA yang mereka kata anugerah Tuhan dengan lambang parti satu mata ( dajjal ), semuanya ada perancangan depa. Malah kirsis matawang dan bangkrapkan negara lain telah di rancang. USA yang patut bankrap sebab hutang trilion2 dollars masih tak bankrap, tapi ngara lain yang hutang cuma billion je dah bangkrap??

    Alhamdullillah Melayu Islam di Malaysia aman damai. Kita tak pernah perlu minta sedekah kat luar negara. Rakyat negara2 lain berduyun duyun datang Malaysia dan minta sedekah kat masjid2 kita terutamanya masa bulan puasa ni . Tak sanggup dengar ceritakan betapa teruknya hidup mereka di negara mereka, bagaimana orang Islam di sembelih di Myanmar/Syria/Palestine /Bosnia dll. Ini pun banyak rakyat Malaysia masih tak mahu bersyukur. Sedarlah rakyat Malaysia!!!!

  73. Salam Tun

    1-Muslims would be quick to blame the West for everything.Ours is a beautiful religion they say but the West has created lies about us and demonized us.

    2-But we can see for ourselves all these demonicity are manufactured by the Muslims themselves , in the name of Islam.The youtube.com can be our best friend while it can be our greatest foe.Anything you want to discover about whatever is just at a flick of the keyboard.

    3-There are too many ugly stories to tell about the injustices of all these man made Shariah laws.Girls raped that have to be stoned to death because she could not produce sufficient witnesses.Her pregnancy then must be due to the acts of adultery.

    4-There are cases ,very similar to this one you’ve posted,of a girl stoned to death for adultery with a married man.No information about the man involved was revealed.If he had also been stoned why no videos ?

    5-Questioning these shariah laws will make one an apostate.When we tell there is no justice they will tell us that justice in Islam is different.

    6-Hadafi mentioned that if the laws are passed in accordance to the ruling of the 4 schools of thoughts based on hadith,qias dan ijma’ ulama and things would be perfect.Oh my,is he in for a great disappointment.

    7-Rejam,4 witnesses,women cannot be witnesses,etc are all from the Sunni schools of jurisprudence.This is the dream come true laws of PAS for Malaysia should they get into power.Lets vote for PKR shall we.

    8-Islam has been terribly corrupted but to those who have been severely indoctrinated,nothing is wrong with their secondary texts they have been the real basis of their jurisprudence since a thousand years.

    9-They would contend if we don’t look so glorious in this world,its simply that our true world is in the hereafter.This is the way it is meant to be.Redha ajelah.

    10-In the meanwhile,when the flow into the religion of one true God has become insignificant,the flow out of Muslims of the one true God to the ‘three-in one’ God instead has now become very significant. Millions in Africa and Indonesia are now officially murtads.

    11-Fearing that the same will happen here they are now screaming for the Govt to stop and arrest the evangelist on the prowl to convert Muslims.They want to control what people should or shouldn’t believe.

    12-I have been so so very sad for a very long time Tun that I have become “delusioned”as middle ages say of me, with the emergence of a truly beautiful Islam of the Qur’an someday that will deliver true justice and equity and eventually ‘peace on earth’.

    13-Angan angan pun jadilah Tun.Manalah tau Tuhan kesian kat I He’ll turn my thoughts into reality someday.

    Thanks Tun

  74. Salam Tun,
    Saya bersetuju seratus peratus dengan keterangan pelawat “The Hidden Secret”. Mereka yang mengadili , menghukum dan yang menjalankan hukum adalah kaum fasik kerana melanggar hukum Allah yang termaktub didalam Al Qur’an. Mereka ini akan dihumban kedalam neraka seperti dinyatakan dalam surah Qaaf ayat 25.
    Sekian.
    Wasalam.

  75. CHEDET
    Salam Ramadhan al-Mubarak

    5. Saya hanya ingin menarik perhatian kepada peristiwa ini. Saya ingin dengar komen pelawat ke blog saya.

    Mungkinkah lebih fakta mengenai video yang ditontoni sendiri oleh YABhg Tun itu dapat dibentangkan yangmana ianya membolehkan kita mengampiri kebenaran atas berlakunya sesuatu peristiwa yang menghibakan walaupun hanya dari cerita seorang Dr. Mahathir Mohamad.

    Semacam masuk panggung separuh cerita, kan CHEDET?

  76. Cerita bermula dgn laporan ‘ akhbar’ maka Dgn laporan akhbsr itu masing2 membuat andaian Dan membuat komen. Boleh percaya ke laporan ‘ akhbar’ ini Dan yang melapor itu bukan Nya orang fasik?

  77. Yang Amat Berbahagia Tun,

    Semoga berada dalam keadaan sihat sejahtera.

    1. Saya dapati ramai dikalangan umat Islam lebih suka menghukum daripada memaafkan. Walhal, memaafkan itu lebih baik bagi orang Islam.

    2. Di Libya, Gaddafi telah dibunuh dengan laungan Allahu Akbar. Bukankah Allah Maha Pengampun lagi Maha Penyayang?

    3. Pada tahun 1998-99 di Kuala Lumpur, ramai penunjuk perasaan yang memegang sepanduk ‘Bunuh Mahathir’. Mereka ini terdiri daripada orang Melayu yang beragama Islam. Apakah orang Melayu Islam suka bunuh membunuh daripada maaf memaafkan?

    4. Begitu juga di Afganistan, mereka bersorak ketika hukuman dijalankan ke atas orang yang dituduh berzina. Sukakah mereka menjadi penghukum walhal sebaik-baik penghukum ialah Allah?

    5. Seingat saya, ketika belajar dahulu, saya diberitahu memaafkan adalah lebih baik daripada menghukum.

    Wallahu alam.

  78. Salam Tun,

    Setahu saya, Allah maha pengampun dan maha penyayang. Apa yang berlaku di Afghanistan agak keterlaluan dan feudal. Dalam Islam pintu taubat sentiasa terbuka. Manusia yang tergoda oleh nafsu memang susah hendak dikawal. Wallahualam.

    amin tan

  79. Asalamualaikum…
    pelaku lelaki kat mana ek…
    maaf ckp ek…kekadang manusia suka meletakkan kesalahan
    hanya di bahu perempuan…pd depa lelaki seme tak pa…ok ja..
    percaya atau tidak..
    setuju atau tidak..
    fikir fikir ….
    jgn lupa beramal….

  80. Hukum pakai logik otak dan bukan ilmu yang cukup. sengsaralah orang yang mempersendakan hukum tuhan.perkara macam ni la yang dicanangkan PAS.

  81. Menuduh seseorang berzina perlukan empat orang saksi. Jadi fakta kes perlu diberikan sebelum sesiapa boleh mengulas.

    Sementara cara pembunuhan itu dijalankan pada saya bagus sekali. Kematian yang dahsyat perlu ditunjukkan kepada umum supaya umum akan insaf dan gerun untuk melakukan jenayah.

    Harap-harap hukuman gantung dapat disaksikan oleh umum agar perasaan gerun dapat disemat di kalangan Raja sampailah di kalangan peminta sedekah.

    Azlan
    KL

  82. Assalamualaikum Tun.

    Saya faham maksud Tun bahawa maka terlonjak lonjaklah mereka yang taksub untuk mempraktikkan hukum yang dikatakan Islam kononnya.

    Sepertimana untuk bernasib baik bagi membolehkan berjumpa Tokku,maka saya perlu datang bertarawih.Moga moga bernasib baik kalau Syaikh ada?

    Mungkin saya berhajat sangat berjumpa Tokku melebihi hajat saya pada Allah s.w.t.Tambahkan lagi ilmu di dada kamu.

    Begitulah hebatnya Islam kamu.

    Terima kasih Tun.

  83. Salam Tun,

    Menembak Wanita Zina dengan senapang mesingan berkali-kali memang “Hukum Hudud” !!!

    sama seperti “Hukum Hudud” itu sendiri suatu rekaan nafsu manusia.

    Hudud ada dalam Al-Quran, Hukum Al-ada dalam Al-Quran.
    Dah search banyak kali “Hukum Hudud” takde dalam Al-Quran.

    Islam itu Mudah, toksah nak hujah berbelit kenapa Allah s.w.t tak letak “Hukum Hudud” dalam Al-Quran, meng-Susah-kan Islam sahaja.

  84. Assallammualaikumwarahmatulahiwabarokatuh..
    Tun..Tun..
    Apa tujuan Tun menulis tentang ini?…
    Tiada pun tertulis
    “Pada pendapat saya”?
    “Dari apa yang saya lihat ini, saya berpendapat…

    Tun..di dalam Al Quran banyak ayat yang bermaksud tentang..
    “Things are what not it seem”..
    Tun telah membuka ruang kepada orang-orang jahil menyerang Islam..
    Apa kata kita berjumpa dan bertukar pendapat secara tulus ikhlas?..
    Terima kasih Tuan Bubbles kerana terus berjuang kerana Allah..
    Cukuplah Allah di atas setiap segala sesuatu..

    Terima kasih Tun..

  85. Kisah ni mmg kejam tp jika ingin lihat dari sudut yg neutral mesti kaji 2 perkara:

    Pertama – adakah perbicaraan adil? Mana tau org2 yg menbicarakan tu benar melihat sendiri atau ada saksi yg mmg benar. Hanya mereka yg disitu tau apa berlaku.

    Kedua – adakah hukuman tembak begitu yg wajar. Ini sy serahkan kpd tokoh agama yg arif utk memberi komen.

    Kpd mereka yg lain memberi komen tanpa melihat dua sudut, sy faham kamu kesian tp jgn cepat didorong tanpa kaji.

    Oleh krn kita cepat melatah dan emosi tu yg menyebabkan ahli politik boleh gembalakan kita mcm lembu.

    Mahkamah sebenar mesti ada pendakwa dan pembela. Bukan ahli politik suruh org komen je ikut hati. Yg komen pulak ikut je.

  86. Salam semua,

    Maybe someone who is their ancestors from Afghanistan could provide us dalil from Al-Quran or Hadis said that someone who did adultery should be killed by shooting using machine gun ~.~

  87. Peace!

    My earlier two comments refer.

    Any comment in this blog which condemn the Afghans is indirectly condemning the House of Saud also.

    Any word used (kejam, tidak adil, tidak berperikemanusiaan, tidak layak dipanggil Islam, barbaric, extremist, pembunuh etc.) to describe the Afghans is also describing the House of Saud.

    Rgds.

  88. Hukuman ini jauh melebihi had yang ditetapkan Allah yang berbunyi “Perempuan yang berzina, dan lelaki yang berzina, sebatlah tiap-tiap seorang daripada mereka dengan seratus sebatan,” (24:2). Itu sahaja.

  89. Peace!

    My earlier comment refers.

    Such thing does not only happen in the poor Afghanistan.

    It had happened in the rich Saudi Arabia to a member of the Saud royal family, happened to a Saudi Princess in 1977.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha'al_bint_Fahd_al_Saud

    As such, rich Saudi Arabia = poor Afghanistan in terms of Islamic understanding.

    Rgds.

  90. It would be interesting to hear comments about this incident from among leaders in the Pakatan Rakyat, both muslims & non-muslims. Hopefully they, and the ulamas of various standings do not choose to remain indifferent.

  91. In my opinion, I think this is not fair to only punish women for berzina because it involve 2 party, so why only punish women? UNFAIR and INHUMAN.

  92. Salam hormat Dr Tun Mahathir

    Kejadian sedemikian rupa menurut saya sangat kejam dan pembicaraan nya menimbulkan banyak tanda tanya.Segala maksiat yang manusia sudah lakukan ada lah antara Allah dan pelakunya.Ada juga yang sudah melakukan maksiat karna kurang bukti2 di makamah di bebaskan.Aneh tapi nyata.Menurut saya hal sedekian rupa harus di beri perhatian oleh mereka yang bertanngung jawab.

  93. dengan penayangan video itu ke serata dunia…imej islam semakin teruk,cara perempuan itu diadili pun semacam terasa ada yg tidak kena~ saya tidak sanggup melihat permpuan itu dibunuh…:((

  94. Salam YB Tun,

    Berdasarkan kepada maklumat yang telah diberi oleh YB Tun, berikut adalah soalan saya:

    1) Di mana dan apa hukuman yang diberi kepada pasangan wanita tersebut iaitu lelaki?

    2) Adakah hukuman tersebut dibuat berdasarkan Islam sebenar? Perlu diingat walaupun perkara tersebut berlaku di Afganistan ianya tidak semestinya dibuat berdasarkan Islam sebenar. Kemungkinan berdasarkan sebuah negara kebajikan.

    3) Kita mestilah merujuk kepada ajaran Nabi Muhammad SAW berhubung dengan penyebaran berita atau maklumat yang kita terima iaitu periksa dahulu kesahihannya. Jangan diterima bulat-bulat berita yang kita terima. Jika kita ada syak wasangka adalah elok jangan diambil berat perkara tersebut.

    Allah yang Maha Mengetahui.

    Semoga kita dapat meningkatkan iman dan amal kita lebih-lebih lagi di bulan Ramadhan ini.

    Wasalam.

  95. Peace!

    IN THE NAME OF GOD.

    As per [4:16] and [4:25], execution is not the punishment for adultery.

    [4:16] The couple who commits adultery shall be punished.* IF THEY REPENT AND REFORM, YOU SHALL LEAVE THEM ALONE. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful.

    * Footnote for [4:16] : Public exposure of the sinners is a major deterrent, as we see in 5:38 and 24:2.

    [4:25] Those among you who cannot afford to marry free believing women, may marry believing slave women. GOD knows best about your belief, and you are equal to one another, as far as belief is concerned. You shall obtain permission from their guardians before you marry them, and pay them their due dowry equitably. They shall maintain moral behavior, by not committing adultery, or having secret lovers. Once they are freed through marriage, IF THEY COMMIT ADULTERY, THEIR PUNISHMENT SHALL BE HALF OF THAT FOR THE FREE WOMEN.* Marrying a slave shall be a last resort for those unable to wait. To be patient is better for you. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

    * Footnote for [4:25] : This law proves that the punishment for adultery could not possibly be stoning to death as stated in the laws of corrupted Muslims (see 24:2).

    As per [24:2] the only punishment for adultery is public witnessing of symbolic lashes (100 lashes).

    [24:2] The adulteress and the adulterer you shall whip each of them a hundred lashes. Do not be swayed by pity from carrying out GOD’s law, if you truly believe in GOD and the Last Day. And let a group of believers witness their penalty.*

    * Footnote for [24:2] : Social pressure, i.e., public witnessing of the penalty, is the basic punishment (see also 5:38). The lashes shall be symbolic, not severe.

    As per [6:137], any punishment for adultery other than the above is an act of idol worship.

    [6:137] Thus were THE IDOL WORSHIPERS duped by their idols, to the extent of KILLING THEIR OWN CHILDREN.* In fact, their idols inflict great pain upon them, and confuse their religion for them. Had GOD willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.

    * Footnote for [6:137] : A perfect example is the internationally infamous incident of the execution of a Saudi Arabian princess in 1978 for alleged adultery. God’s law institutes whipping, not execution, as a punishment for adultery (24:1-2), while the idolatrous laws stipulate execution. As pointed out in 42:21, the traditionalists follow a religion that is not authorized by God.

    She was only 19 years old when executed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha'al_bint_Fahd_al_Saud

    Note : Quran translations above are by Rashad Khalifa.

    Rgds.

  96. Tun,

    Seperti yg Tun kata, ‘pembunuh’. Ya, itu yg saya rasa. Apa sekali kesalahan pun perempuan tadi. Mereka yg bicara, mereka yg menembak, mereka yg bertepuk sorak adalah pembunuh. Malahan, yg membunuh itu adalah ‘orang Islam’.

    Ini masalahnya kalau orang islam itu sendiri berpecah. Bukan setakat diMalaysia dgn parti politik saja. Tapi dari kefahamannya. Itu masalahnya kalau kita masih ikut cakap2 ‘imam2’ atau ‘ularmak’ zaman dulu. Yg mereka sendiri tak paham isi kandung Al-Quran dan tak mengkadi hadith2 sama ada itu betul atau tak. Lebih malang… Bukan setakat tak paham Al-Quran dan hadith. Tapi tak boleh fikir logik akal yg mana baik yg mana buruk.

    Islam kan mudah. Kalau akal kata ini baik, maka baiklah itu. Senang cerita, orang2 seperti ini belum mumayiz. Betul kenal mana satu baik, mana satu buruk. Bahaya orang seperti ini adalah bila diberi kuasa dan ‘senjata’.

    Ya… termasuk ahli politik di Malaysia dan seluruh dunia yg menggunakan Islam…

  97. This is to show how people use God’s name to do create fear, torturing and do what they like when in power. This is going around for some time and those who believed that woman is a lesser human should realise that their mother is also a woman. This killing of women and some stupid law is happening in the worst part of the world (poor, improvised, illiterate, lawless, mindless and last but not least total madness) and the best is there are Malaysians that are trying to follow those mind-set, rules, regulations and laws. Separate queue lane for male and female. What a good joke!!!

    Extremists are growing everywhere and there are a lot of them in Malaysia too. Those with working and normal mentality should reject them and teach and spread positive thoughts and energy to them. These extremists are poisoned with negative force and they are narrow-minded and unwilling to open their heart to realise that God give us brain and intelligence to choose and to innovate.

    One the other hand, there are extremists in the western world that preach, people should do what you like, kill as you like and expose your body as you like. We the normal people are being squeeze in-between and being hit from both sides.
    What an interesting world we live in!!!!
    Are we at the cross-road to ….?
    Are we coming to the end?
    Is this our creator (God) way?

  98. Good morning YAB,

    6. Imagine, when Hukum Hudud of Menteri Besar, Tok Nik’s ambition is approved and implemented via votes, what will happen to states controlled by PAS ar?

    7. Ketua-ketua Islam negeri-negeri ini adalah Sultan-sultan negeri tu.

    8. I cannot imagine what will happen to our States Sultans when they are required to approved such punishments in Syariah Courts, contohnya, berzina kena tembak mati?

    9. I won’t waste time on the personal ambition of Tok Nik and Hukum Hudud.

    10. Got time, I will read Afghanistan hard facts provided by Wikipedia via Google.

    11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan

    Selamat Berpuasa, YAB.

  99. Salam,

    Tun Yang Dihormati,
    dan pembaca sekalian.

    1. Hukuman yang dicipta manusia terlalu kejam.
    2. Wanita tersebut telah mendapat pembalasannya didunia semoga beliau terlepas hukuman di akhirat.
    3. Terlalu taksub untuk menghukum kesalahan orang lain sehingga menghalalkan cara malah terlupa mereka yang patut dikenakan kesalahan membunuh dengan niat.
    4. Tiada hukuman bunuh dengan senapang dalam al-Quran mahupun sunnah Rasulullah SAW
    5. Semasa melihat klip tersebut saya mengucap panjang…sambil terfikir … Syukur aku di Malaysia… dimana setiap kesalahan layak dibicarakan mengikut lunas undang-undang

    Alhamdulillah

  100. Salam Ramadhan Tun,

    Ia hanya 1 kisah daripada pemerintahan afghan. Malah ada lebih teruk lagi. Pemerintahan yg diredhai berpandukan Al Quran & As Sunnah. Qias & ijmAk ulamak. Itulah pemerintahan yg zelamat dunia dan akhirat. Hudud ke @ syariah ke yg penting rujuk kepada pemerintahan rasulullah¶ sahabat dan 4 schools of thought.

  101. Salam Tun,

    Kejam & tidak adil. Sudah pasti ia bukan ajaran Islam & sudah semestinya bukan hukum Islam.

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