2. I am not disputing this legal provision. But we know of the cynical reference to some laws being an ass. In fact many lawyers would claim that the ISA which provides for detention without trial as bad law, and many have urged that the law be removed from the statute books. The reason cited is that without a hearing in a court of law, the executive has assumed the role of prosecutor, judge and executioner. In todays society this is a denial of justice.
3. But the same people, who strongly object to the Internal Security Act, support the law providing for contempt of court in which the aggrieved judge becomes the prosecutor, the judge and the executioner.
5. To say that the judge knows best as to the culpability of the accused person is to once again breach the principles of justice. A judge should not know and prejudge a case. He should be quite ignorant of the case coming before him and he should allow himself to decide simply based on the evidence put before him, the words of the witnesses and the pleadings of the prosecutor and the counsel for the accused person. If a judge is also a witness to the case then he would be bias and cannot possibly do justice to the case.
6. There is certainly a need for a law against contempt of the court but it should follow the same procedures as applicable to all other cases including being heard by other than the aggrieved judge. The charge should be made properly. There should be no arbitrary arrest before a charge is made. The accused person should be given his right to hear the charge and to state his defences before a judge who is not personally involved.
7. Court procedures would take time but in the case of Matthias Chang, there was really no hurry as he was in fact given one week to pay the fine or be jailed. In fact when he turned up on the stipulated day the judge was not available and he was told to come back the next day.
8. Yet when he willingly went back the next day to surrender, he was told that his arrest would be made in the car park. I suppose this is again standard procedure but it would amount to additional punishment because it would humiliate him.
9. At the time of writing this in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, I am told he is unconscious because he had chosen to protest by fasting against the injustice of the way the law was used by the judge. The Government may not be moved by his act but if it does not than it would compare very badly indeed against the British Raj which responded humanely to the fast by Ghandi.
Tun, Ilaam.net says: “Islam has laid down the principle that no citizen can be imprisoned unless his guilt has been proven in an open court. To arrest a man only on the basis of suspicion and to throw him into a prison without proper court proceedings and without providing him a reasonable opportunity to produce his defense is not permissible in Islam.”
Has Malaysia contravene the teachings of Islam?
Salam Tun
Please don’t be too harsh on AAB. Please don’t pin all Malaysia’s fault on him. There are many worst then him.
In Malaysia it is a known fact that judges,lawyers, prosecutors, witnesses can all be bought and the whole procedure and evidence can be staged.So nevr ever, I repeat never ever trust the Malaysia courts. Unfortunately, nobody in Malaysia who is against those in power (or/and those behind the puppets, note that politicians do have financial backers)are just as hopeless as any ordinary Malaysian.
In Malaysia, there is no such saying as “don’t get caught”. Anything can happen to anybody at the whimps-and-fancies of the politicians and their cohorts; even if you are innocent.
Tun,
I remember very clearly that the Bar council had at one point of time before this advocated very strongly against the continuation of the law permitting a judge to hold someone to be in contempt of his court and to punish that person. In fact the bar council actively advocated a total reformation of the law in this respect. However, Tun, in this case, your good friend was the one at the receiving end from this archaic law. Of course, the bar council will not condemn the archaic law. This is a typical case of “TEOMEIMF” (The enemy of my enemy is my friend).
Legal/law and we know that people are not versed on it. Even at times we see some will try to forward their views in a manner that is viewed professional.
“There is no one above the law” and logically its a statement that reflects interest amongst the people who wish to see equality since almost everything that we do these days is associated with the term “law” regardless.
A layman will “see” that there’s a lot of difference between someone with resources and someone who have limited resources in the process of law.
We know that majority of people are “scared” of the courts and the law and anything that comes from a law firm or a lawyer.
The way you “dress” , “your appearance” , the way you answer to questions, the way you expressed yourself, the way you will be quiz seems overwhelming for an ordinary person and this is just a few of the things that “scared” people when they talk about the law and the courts.
“You are not allowed to ask but just answer and if you answer wrongly you be in trouble” and “bring money to pay your court summons and if not you will be put in jail”, these are the words spoken to me when I have to attend court hearing for a traffic summons. Its truly scary for me since you don’t really know what’s in “store” for you since you don’t really know the law and since you are not coming with a “bunch” of lawyers.
Imagine an ordinary person makes an “accusation” to the Judge in trying to defend himself in the context of being innocent?
Tun
kindly permit me to address two of your blog commentors –
drjagento – care to check how the dismissal of Anwar Ibrahim took place and straight thereafter his police detention and the physical abuse he took under then Police-General. Now let me ask you
(if you still wish to be naive about these things):
– how is it an accused and recently stripped DPM (not just any Joe on the street) gets manhandled by just a “department head” if that Dept. Head did not feel he had the support and influence of someone higher up?
– Who could be higher up than the DPM?
– Now take it one step further – if for whatever reason a recently sacked DPM who has money and power of influence, got himself the best possible trial lawyer and team of attorneys and shredded the accusation brought by the Head of Govt as charge, would that not mean he would have to have been reinstated? Anwar did get his team of defence, and they did shred some of the allegations and raised the “question of doubt” and the late-Judge did make some bungling errors in his handling but at the end of day, the court (or should I say Judge) found it possible to get Anwar behind bars…are you claiming the entire trial was held in the most pristine of conditions and there was no tainting of evidence.
– Granted Anwar himself could have been wielding some of his own influence to have the charges dismissed, but at the end of day, the 2nd most powerful man in the country did not win. Are you saying you have full faith in our judicial system which until Tun Abdullah’s intervention, took all orders from the Branch of Govt.
We can argue this drjagento till the “cows come home” …it’s your belief against mine. And my belief is Tun M knows more than he would care to share. Unfortunately, we will not know the 100% of truth in our lifetimes (and possibly never if there is no Govt transparency unto events that shaped ‘modern’ Malaysia).
Keep well!
(Ravi)
Dear Tun,
Funny JJJ should post the following comment.
I hope JJJ did not mean to say that the incidents BBC/NYTimes reported did not actually happen, because I suspect that might somewhat weaken my argument.
Uncannily, if you replace my nickname with “JJJ”, “western media” with “Utusan Malaysia” and “Americans” with “Malaysians”, voila, it works too!
Actually, it works better.
Dear Dr M,
I think you need to defend yourself in the APCO case now. The existing Government accuse you saying that during your time of management, the Government has bad relationship with USA. Nazri claimed the appointment of APCO is to break the ice with USA so the spending of U$10million is worth it. What a joke. This is saying what Dr M doing during your period to defend Malaysia against the USA is totally tarnished.
I believe you need to raise an APCO topic now since our current people does not show any dignity of Malaysian! (Which i salute Dr M the most during your time)
salam Tun,
I think Austozi is the typical hypocrite opportunistic person who thoroughly embraces the western media as the gospel truth.
Don’t try to bullshit us.We know the hidden agendas.
The Americans themselves are discovering the deciet and lies spread by their own media disguised as indisputable facts.
Keep on living in your own fantasy world Austozi!
Jeng3
Salam Tun,
To rarunasalam,
It is not the same between Tun and the judge. Tun was not the one who judged Anwar case. You might want to believe that Tun influenced the judge…but you must come out with evidences to substantiate your believed without relying to all those craps you found in the internet.
No one is squekly clean. I trust no one but I would trust more of someone like Tun than anyone in the legal system particularly those lawyers and judges. You already know the outcome of Tun administration good or bad? Sincerely, for the sake of arguement, given a chance, would you rather have someone else in place of Tun as PM? You might have a long list of honourable candidates, but the circumstances are closely similar to a game of golf. You got a good par at end of the game but you think you might get a better score if you are given a second chance., but the score might be worst. Will you then want to go back to your original score. Life are full of options, but for any given moment only one decision is made. Unfortunately, you’re bound by so many limitation. One wrong decision… well thats it. Having to make the correct precise decision is indeed a bless from heaven, and seeing good thing out of your decision will be a dream come thru. In his twenty two years of premiership, Tun have to make thousand and thousand of decisions, with million of options and with only one right decision for each issue. Considering its against the probability, with all the limitation, what outcomes I see from the decisions that Tun made, despite the glitch and blemish, are something that I must frankly be thankful for. Forget about what my good wishes about this beloved country would be. Lets the current PM fulfill it.
wassalam
YABhg Tun Dr Mahathir….. Assalamualaikum…
I must thank to ‘AVATAR April 12, 2010 2:02 PM’ for his effort to bring to our attention regarding an article on ‘how the contemp of court come into being’ written by dear ‘NH Chan’.
The facts is I too have this copy of The Sun just because of this articles too. Since I am ignorant about the law and any legal matters, I have to read it many many time just to get to understand it or at least close to it.
I have to believe it and always to, that whatever articles written by TDM are somehow open to hot debate by most of us who surf famous ‘Che Det’. His written opinion is not only debated by his blog visitors, even by other medium, most talked by open public and even sometimes discuss by law makers in parliment. That shows his influence in giving his opinion is so unlimited.
Therefore accusing or rather alleging TDM for making decision in his writing is absolutely untrue. This is said by ‘rarunasalam April 12, 2010 10:13 PM’.
YABhg Tun semoga sentiasa sihat dan dipelihara Allah dari sebarang kemudharatan, Insya Allah.
Osane TQVM
JJJ
obviously you want to argue for sake or arguing…
In the instance of MChang, Tun wrote that it wasn’t correct for the judge to determine the aspect of contempt and more importantly, exercised the wrong discretion in playing the role of judge, jury, executioner in determining MChang guilty of such a charge.
My retort was to highlight examples where Tun M’s hypocrisy shows and on instances where he has done just that very thing.
Regardless if Anwar Ibrahim is guilty or not, I think it’s not for Tun M to decide on the aspect or level of guilt.
Chill brother, you have this massive hatred and it’s not doing your health or happiness any good.
(Ravi)
Salam Tun,
APCO APCO APCO…dah boring saya dengar isu ini..mcm laa besar sangat..saya rasa parti pembangkang memang dah ketandusan idea…
Plzz give us some of your brilliant insight about this issue tun..??
Salam,
Majlis peguam tu rase mereka tu terer sangat…bila atas kepentingan mereka semua o.k…bila tidak tak o.k…ingat semua undang2 tu betul dan boleh digunakan, undang2 dibuat oleh manusia dan undang-undang juga boleh digunakan dan dimunapulasikan oleh manusia….
Assalamualaikum wbt Yg Bhg Tun, the beloved 4th Malaysian PM,
Today is 27 Rabiul Akhir 1431 Hijrah (12/4/2010)
You look quite happy when u came on our local TV news last week to meet IIUM alumni in Sarajevo/Bosnia/Hergovina whom are now holding important position in the goverment, banking etc sectors.
Well, it is good to know that u still wrote on your blog directly from Sarajevo despite your usually hectic schedule. Many would still recalled that when the entire nation was still considered not safe to visit coz the war was still going on there, u did made a suprise visit despite the high risk on your security those days and all Malaysians saw u on tv visiting the war zone those days, i suppose during the cold winter (if i am not mistaken la Yg Bhg Tun)
Well Yg Bhg Tun, no one will ever doubt that u are a statesman and will leave a mark in the Malaysian history textbooks for bringing Malaysia forward via your Vision 2020 that many of us used to sing collectively in nearly all sessions after Negaraku those days in BTN camps.
Moving on to a slightly possibly sensitive topics.
With due respect to u my dear Yg Bhg Tun, if u could ever possibly
rectify some aspect of the justice sytem and administration, I believe many Malaysians would have all the nice things to say about u Yg Bhg Tun. If possible, if we can return the glory of the Malaysian Police to at least the days of Yg Bhg Tun Hanif Omar as IGP with its original unforgetable uniform, not the current uniform just looks like they are also JPJ la Yg Bhg Tun (my fair comment and observation only) If you would care to check and investigate many issues currently with PDRM, you would be able to at least suggest, a form of disciplinary action or whatever– to the current government so as to lessen the embrassment that are now already openly exposed and beyond anyone reach to cover it up anymore.
Well, only a well experienced politicians such as u can rectify what is happening in the used to be so much respected enforcement agency.
Moving on to the judiciary, what has happened those days has happened in 1988, nobody will be able to turn back the clock and u have achieved the desired result already those days itself. Why not this time u made a suprise by restoring the judicial system back in its proper place of glory just like Al Marhum Sultan Johor as stated in the controversial Barry Wain book called the Lord President Tun Salleh Abbas to apologize. Well no doubt Tun Salleh has received his compensation but u can repair it further with full support of all Malaysians if u are able to renegotiate things and reconcile everything in the best possible manners as perceived by u as a well respected global statesman, Yg Bhg Tun.
Regarding the MACC, if it is possible that Yg Bhg Tun plays an active role in advising the federal goverment for MACC to return to its good old days of at least Allahyarham Tan Sr Harun Hashim era and do something with the present new uniforms as in my personal opinion looks something similar like my former school bands in the 70’s at St Xaviers Institution ,Penang.
In addition Yg Bhg Tun, the AG Chambers should be return at least to Tan Sri Abu Talib Othman era prior to the destroying the video tape incident era. How u do it, u will know the best la Yg Bhg Tun.
Well many will be laughing and says it is impossible and possibly label me as mad or day dreaming or something but Yg Bhg Tun knowing u, u are very unpredictable. Well if those things those days has happened because of politics then now is your opportunity to utilise your skills and experience and deliver a pleasant suprise to all Malaysians that will ensure your name being preserved with unimaginable respect for a very long long time what more if u could help solve all the political problems in Malaysia once and for all by uniting everybody for the first time bearing in mind your own maxims, ‘in politics there are no permanent enemies’.
Akhir Kalam, Yg Bhg Tun, Prof Izi of Hot FM used to say, ‘renung renungkan, selamat beramal’ and looking forward for u to continue your unpredictable ways delivering all Malaysian a pleasant suprise,InsyaAllah.
27 Rabiul Akhir 1431 Hijrah (12/4/2010)
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Salams Tun,
Biasa aarr.. Double standard ni.. Sistem Kasta..
Sistem ‘Who has the gold makes the rules..’
Undang2 manusia buat pasai tu laa…
Takpa.. undang2 Tuhan ada.. Mana maw lari aaa.?
I wish you well and happiness Tun.
Perjuangan yang hampir tamat..
Kuthe.
Dear Tun,I read this elsewhere,maybe you would like to share this piece with your readers because generally we the public are not well verse with the law.
Matthias Chang: Martyr without a cause?
By NH Chan
APRIL 11
Dear Tun,I read this elsewhere,maybe you would like to share this piece with your readers because generally we the public are not well verse with the law.
Matthias Chang: Martyr without a cause?
By NH Chan
APRIL 11
Can our present PM do something about it, Tun? He has no 2/3 majority in the parliment. But if he has, is he brave enough to correct the law? I am talking about the whole, not only about this particular subject. I still remember the day when Tun stood for us against one of the Sultan here. Yes, you have fought for us internationlly too. I m so hopeful that Dato Sri Najib will do the same when the time comes…
Dear TMM,
To austozi and others
Peruse this link from dissident point, of Singapura.
Regards
Freddie
salam Tun,
pachinko said
“The man who caused the downfall of our previously highly respected judiciary has written about the sorry state of the judiciary. Since the good doctor must know better than anyone about unfairness, injustice, double standards, judges with self-interests etc, I wouldn’t dare challenge his intimate knowledge in these matters.”
my humble opinion is that we have to change the way we think and that change is to synonym human being with perfect, there are no perfect in human being or are there anyone out there that can chalenge this by giving me the name of any invention that is perfect since the existence of mankind, and i doubt there is.
Bar Council should stop pretending that they are all the mighty oracle that are the one stop solution for our justice feud. they are man made, they are nor perfect. so change have to be done from time to time to suit these man made judiciary so as to be relevent. there are no one time solution in this, it is an ongoing process.
so, how do you gauge a ‘highly respected judiciary’? what are the benchmark? if there isn’t how do you downfall that at the first place?
Salam Toke Det,
Bloggers,
This is a very famous joke in the US. Hear it out..”Q: What do you call when a thousand lawyers chained in the sea? ….A: A good start”
Hmmm.. Cynically, I guess what happened to our justice system is not something unusual to the people in the US anyway. Even a thief was compensated by the house owner in the UK for hurting his feet during robbery time as ruled out by the Court.
What justice?….
YANG BERBAHGIA TUN,
SEMOGA ALLAH MENBERIKAN RAHMAT DAN KESIHATAN KEPADA TUN BERDUA.
DALAM MEMBICARAKAN HAL BERKAITAN DENGAN UNDANG-UNDANG DAN PERATURAN KITA PERLU SESEKALI MELETAKKAN DIRI KITA DIKERUSI HAKIM. HUKUMAN YANG DJATUHKAN TIDAK SEBESAR MANA SAYA PERCAYA IANYA SETIMPAL DENGAN KESALAHANNYA.
KITA TIDAK MAHU AKAN WUJUD KEADAAN MAHKAMAH SEPERTI DI PARLIMEN, SEMUA AHLINYA KEBAL DISISI UNDANG-UNDANG SEHINGGA TINGKAHLAKU MEREKA KADANGKALA LEBIH BURUK DARI KANAK-KANAK SEKOLAH. WALAUPUN SEMUA DI PARLIMEN ITU ORANG-RANG YANG TERPILIH DAN BERWIBAWA.
KALAULAH SEMUA KESALAHAN HENDAK DIBICARAKAN ATAS NAMA ASAS HAK MENDAPATKAN KEADILAN, TIDAK PERLULAH KITA WUJUDKAN ISTILAH KOMPOUN DALAM UNDANG-UNDANG KERANA INI JUGA MEMBERI KUASA PELAKSANA UNDANG-UNDANG MEMBUAT KEPUTUSAN TANPA DIBICARAKAN. JIKA INI BERLAKU TUN BAYANGKAN IA AKAN MENGGALAKKAN ORANG MELAKUKAN KESALAHAN KERANA MEREKA TAHU TEMPUH PROSES UNDANG-UNDANG AKAN MENYELAMATKAN MEREKA. UNTUK MEMBICARAKAN KESALAHAN YANG KECIL AKAN MELIBATKAN MASA, KOS DAN KERANAH. PIHAK YANG MENJALANKAN TUGAS JUGA AKAN MERASA FEDUP.
SAYA DAPAT BAYANGKAN BAGAIMAN MASALAH YANG AKAN DIHADAPI OLEH POLIS, JPJ, PBT, JBT AGAMA, JBT HUTAN, DAN LAIN-LAIN PIHAK PENGUTKUASAAN UNDANG-UNDANG. TINDAKAN MEREKA AKAN SENTIASA DIPERTIKAIKAN WALAUPUN YANG DILAKSANAKAN ITU MENGIKUT UNDANG-UNDANG.
LAZIMNYA MEREKA YANG TERLIBAT AKAN TETAP TIDAK MENGAKU KESALAHAN MEREKA. ORANG YANG BENAR-BENAR MENCURI, MENIPU ATAU MELANGGAR PERATURAN UNDANG-UNDANG AKAN TETAP TIDAK MENGAKU BERALAH. MEREKA AKAN SANGGUP MEMBELANJAKAN WANG YANG BEGITU BANYAK UNTUK MEMPERTAHANKAN DIRINYA. KADANGKALA SANGGUP MEBAYAR PEGUAM YANG JAUH LEBIH MAHAL DARIPADA WANG YANG SDICURI HANYA KERANA UNTUK MENDAPATKAN HAK KEADILAN.
SEPERTI YANG SAYA PERNAH SEBUTKAN DALAM ULASAN SEBELUM INI BERIKANLAH SEDIKIT KEPERCAYAAN KEPADA MEREKA YANG DIAMANAHKAN. HANYA KEPERCAYAAN INI SAHAJA YANG MEMBOLEHKAN MEREKA MENJALANKAN TANGGUNGJAWAB DENGAN YAKIN. JIKA KITA DAPATI ADA KERAGUAN BERILAH PANDANGAN DAN NASIHAT AGAR HAKIM LEBIH BERHATI-HATI DIMASA AKAN DATANG.
SEMASA KITA BERADA DIJAWATAN-JAWATAN TERTENTU KITA JUGA MENGHARAPKAN KEPERCAYAYAN DAN KEYAKINAN SEMUA PIHAK. JADI TUN BERILAH SEDIKIT KEPERCAYAYAN KEPADA HAKIM BERKENAAN. ITU TUGANSNYA. DAN JUGA MARWAHNYA.
SAYA DOAKAN SEMOGA TUN SENTIASA SEJAHTERA DAN DIRAHMATI ALLAH. POSTING TUN LAIMNYA SENTIASA MEMBUAT KAMI SAMA-SAMA BERFIKIR.
TERMIKASIH.
MAZAI
Tun,
(addition to crazy diamond’s comment on Apr 10, 6.20pm)
When it comes to the Bar Council, they will criticise and condemn anything the government is doing.
It seems that the Bar Council is more interested to be the police of Malaysian politics. We never hear or see other regulatory bodies get involved in our political arena. Does anyone hear about the Board of Engineers, Board of Architects or even the Malaysia Institute of Accountants (accountants only comment during the annual budget) barking at the government? It seems these professionals are true professional, they do not want to get involved in politics.
Lately, when the government lost the 2/3rd majority in the Parliament, the Bar Council is getting more vocal and critical when talking about the Malay and Islamic rights. It seems that Bar Council has becoming the tool for certain parties to condemn the government and Malay rights.
A message to the Bar Council, stop being the police of Malaysian politics and concentrate on the qualities of lawyers in Malaysia. If you want to get involved, maybe get the government to amend the LPA and get yourself registered as a political party and you can work together with DAP who are full with lawyers.
Dear Tun,
It is very intriguing that you should raise your concern now.
From the BBC, 30 November 1998: “There has been a dramatic new development in the trial of the former Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister, Anwar Ibrahim. The presiding judge Augustine Paul sentenced one of his defence lawyers to three months’ imprisonment after he refused to apologise for submitting an affidavit alleging that prosecutors tried to fabricate evidence against Mr Anwar.”
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/224501.stm)
From the BBC, 23 March 1999: “The trial of Malaysia’s former Deputy Prime Minister, Anwar Ibrahim, has come to an abrupt end, with the defence team facing possible arrest. The judge cited Mr Anwar’s legal team for contempt of court when the lawyers refused to make their closing arguments, saying that it would not be proper to do so until their application for the judge to step down had been heard.”
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/301485.stm)
From the NYTimes, 12 September 1999: “In a landmark verdict, a Malaysian court sentenced a Canadian journalist, Murray Hiebert, to a six-week jail term today after he lost an appeal against a contempt-of-court conviction… He was originally sentenced over an article he wrote on Malaysia’s increased litigiousness that included a description of a suit brought by the son of a judge for the Malaysian Court of Appeal against his school after the youth had been dropped by the debate team.”
(http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/12/world/malaysia-sentences-journalist-from-canada-for-contempt.html)
These incidents happened when you were Prime Minister, and you defended them. Some even suspect you ordered them. But of course, in this case, you actually like Matthias. Nobody must be the prosecutor, judge and executioner but yourself.
What a hypocrite.
salaam tun. i have always enjoyed reading your entries. they’re all very educational for me. tun, have you heard about ‘the arrivals’ videos? if you haven’t just yet, i’d like you to go to this website. i am aware that your are very informed about what goes on in the world today, but nevertheless, i just feel that maybe you’d like to see these short videos and perhaps also help spead the truth to all concerned. the website is http://www.arrivals. technocrazed.com/videos.
take care, tun. and may God bless.
“Deng Xiao Ping did say before, ” All men are born equal, but there are some who are more equal than others”. What analogy we witness here in Malaysia is most disgusting to the rational mind.” Clever conscience.
Actually the origin of this paraphrased quotation is from the 1945 ‘Animal Farm’ by Georger Orwell.
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race
salam Tun,
Aha Ravi,
you equating Tun’s actions against DSAI with ‘judicial despotism’ is very funny but irrelevant,typical of your nature.A PM has got the necessary constitutional powers to do that.
Thank God for Tun’s bold and decisive actions which was mighty unpopular but of course he will be proven right sooner or later.
Ezam,Dr Chandra Muzaffar,Nallakaruppan and countless others can’t all possibly be wrong.The odds are too much stacked in some truth about what they have revealed so far.
Jeng3
Salam Tun Mahathir & all,
What you said and commented about MC episode is purely based on friendship. Thats what friends are for. The judge did in her capacity and so were you when you decide to remove DSAI from his post. DSAI friends and sympathizers react to your move by going to the streets.
The judge knows perfectly what she did and so were you. I heard you sang this song once and how I try to relate it to you, as a leader.
And now the end is near
And so I face the final curtain,
My friends, I’ll say it clear,
I’ll state my case of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s full, I’ve travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way.
Thank you Tun for making me understand.
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
To rarunasalam,
Once again you are acting as an angle or even God. May be it’s become your habit shooting blindly. What to do. At least it meets your satisfaction eventhough it hits back on your face.
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
It is a very interesting notes by you. My point of view is that judge should not mix his/her anger and cases when making judgement. This is to ensure justice to everybody–the accused and the prosecutor. Once judge’s personal and anger take place then that is the end of justice.
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Sebenarnya bukanlah satu penghinaan bila melanggar keputusan yang telah dibuat oleh mahkamah/majoriti.
Saya sendiri boikot dari balik raya ke kampung dan menjejaki kaki ke rumah sedara mara yang masih fikirkan pasal hal nyawa dari mengingati bahwa nyawa itu milik Allah.
Bukanlah satu penghinaan sekiranya kita masih mengingati dan masih menyebarkan ilmu alim ulama zaman dulu kala.
Baru-baru ini saya tertarik dengan rencana hikam tasawuf dari Sheikh Ibnu Atoillah r.a yang diterjemahkan oleh Panel Penyelidikan Yayasan Sofa.Secara umumnya ini adalah antara pengajian Tasawuf yang mashyur apabila diperkatakan tentang Tok Pulau Manis (1650M).
Beliau terkenal dengan peninggalan kitab Syarahan Hikam Tok Pulau Manis.Saya masih belum memiliki buku ini,tapi kalau dapat pun belum tentu saya dapat fahaminya.
Saya punyai blog sendiri iaitu musato-blog.blogspot.com.Blog untuk mengisi rasa bosan pada Disember 2008.Selepas beberapa hari (Mac 2010) pengkebumian arwah datuk,barulah saya dapat penuhkan profil musato walaupun telah beberapa kali saya tanyakan secara peribadi (mengikut firasat saya) kepada beliau sejak hari pertama nak akad nikah sampai la beliau meninggal.Tiada sepatah kata keterangan pun dari beliau.
Mereka-mereka ini adalah dari susun galur Tuan Abdul Malik Bin Isa,iaitu cucu kepada Tok Pulau Manis.Tidak seperti galur yang lain yang tidak dapat dikenalpasti oleh cacatan sejarah,kubur generasi cucu alim ini dapat ditandakan di kubur kampung halaman saya.
Of course saya mencatitkan ini kerana ingin menggambarkan bahawa sesungguhnya Hukum Allah itu sentiasa berlangsung, tidak sepertimana Undang-Undang dan Mahkamah.
Terima kasih Tun.
Salam Tun..
As malaysian i need explanation from Tun…Abt the link below..
as anti israeli..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnk5_ccvr9k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkculpL7Dlo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLY2FauQJj4&feature=related
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Dear Tun,
~ There is a higher court than courts of justice and that is the court of conscience. It supercedes all other courts. ~
Mohandas Gandhi
Thank you
Tun, I believe tht these same people assume double standard because when they wanted to do the right thing, they have been rejected. The Law does not allow an executive to be the judge and jury.
Salam Buat Ayahanda Tun,
Kalau orang macam Matthias boleh dihukum penjara, orang biasa macam saya ini apatah lagi! We are nothing compared to Matthias. Tapi itulah adat negara kita, yang diberi kuasa bebas mengunakan kuasa tanpa budi-bicara, lebih-lebih lagi kakitangan kerajaan. Mereka inilah salah satu sebab kejatuhan Barisan Nasional pada PRU yang lalu.
Baru-baru ini Najib mengumumkan kemudahan Hospital percuma untuk kakitangan kerajaan. Apakah mereka rakyat istimewa berbanding kami. Adakah mereka yang memastikan BN terus berkuasa. Benda-benda macam inilah yang buat saya sakit hati. Biarlah adil, kami pun rakyat yang bayar cukai jugak. Begitu juga dengan peneroka felda, Najib suka heboh kalau nak beri apa-apa pada peneroka. Ini pun tak baik sebab yang tak dapat apa-apa ini jauh lebih besar bilangannya dari peneroka. Publisiti macam ini, hanyalah merugikan BN dan saya percaya BN akan kalah tak lama lagi kerana ketidak-adilannya yang menyakitkan hati ramai penyokongnya sedikit demi sedikit. Kes Matthias adalah contohnya, hakim ini tetap dapat gaji kalau Pakatan Rakyat berkuasa. He got nothing to loose. Tapi sebenarnya dia akan menyebabkan segelintir lagi penyokong BN lari kerana tak puas hati pada kerajaan. Ada banyak lagi perkara yang rakyat tak puas hati tapi sayapun malas nak tulis sebab saya ni nothing compared to Matthias.
Salam Tun.
I m very shocked and feel aghast that Tun can compare MC’s fast with that of Ghandiji.
Please, please Tun,
How can u even think of it. What MC did was for his own gain, or loss , whatever.
Dear Tun Dr M,
I totally agree with you that the contempt of court (judge) should be reviewed. It is quite unfair that the judge could insult the accused in any way he could but the accused, defense and prosecution lawyers could not even show their dissatisfaction towards the judge in not even at the most politest manner.
As far as I understand, once contempt of court is declared by the judge that is it, the accused will straight away be punished without giving him a chance to prove a otherwise.
Of course the above is what your argument is. I (and of course many) just would like to suggest (if possible), contempt of court could only be brought to the attention of a special committee comprising distinguished lawyers from the BAR Council and the judges (senior to the accusing judge).
The verdict reached by this committee would be strictly followed. Of course, this committee should be flexible so that the verdict on contempt of court could be reached within a matter of a few days.
SPRM should investigate if there a misconduct by the judge when the Bar council failed to take any action on judge misconduct. Better still, the people should replace the whole bar council members with new members they thrust and not wasting people time, money and justice.
Tun, do something! Help our beautiul country out of its rut before the rot consumes every aspect of law and government.
Aha Tun…
so, in other words, you’re comparing the ability of the Judge to accuse and convict someone as being contempt of court as “Judicial despotism”…nice
So, when you took upon yourself to
a/ dismiss Anwar Ibrahim as the countries deputy PM without the due course of law being fully exercised (pronounced guilty by proceedings of court) – you weren’t acting as Judge & Jury all rolled in one?
b/ stand-down the 3 Chief Justices without the full assessment of an independant body confirming these justices can be lawfully dismissed – you weren’t acting as Judge & Jury all rolled in one?
c/ constantly harrasing Tun Abdullah to resign on the basis of your accusations that he was mismanaging the party and government without filing a single formal charge against him – you weren’t acting as Judge & Jury all rolled in one?
So, when the shoe is on the other foot – when one of your cronies is now rapped on the knuckles by the judge for having been rude to her during an official proceeding, you accuse the judge of exceeding their authority.
Sir, facts are there for you to face that Mathias Chang is being a massive drama queen, and he should have first and foremost conducted himself professionally in court.
(Ravi)
My Dearest Tun Always,
HAHAHHA it’s “true to the fact” every single word of it and I hope you are vocal not because it involves Mathias but for the justice system.
Its not a perfect law and its “one sided”. I was once told by a person that he is not “sacred” of anything because only the “courts” can decide. The meaning to his words is vast since a person is “innocent until proven guilty”.
I rest my case.
look whos talking now,
Tindakan tun membela matthias tidak ada bezanya dengan fanati-fanatik PKR membela anwar. Perlukah undang-undang dipinda atau diperkudakan demi seorang individu yang bergelar VIP berbanding nasib dan kesehjateraan berjuta -berjuta rakyat marhaen. What a double standard.
Saya rasa konflik di antara tun dan anwar adalah disebabkan terlalu banyak persamaan di antara tun dan anwar. satu dari persamaannya adalah campurtangan dan cercaaan yang melampau terhadap sistem kehakiman.
Sudin,
I am still perplexed, flabbergasted and beyond belief that you could somehow relate any perceived or real deficiencies in our courts to KJ. We know you can stretch a theory but this is stretching is further than any chewing gum or bubble gum invented over the last 3000 years.
Pachinkos point is quite interesting. I would not want to comment further in case i get banned.
Btw, is there any justice that we still have to pay for Danaharta and many other mega projects? I heard we even have to issue a USD 2 billion bond to pay for some of those “d e v e l o p m e n t” things. But 1MPM6 said this
Asked what the money would be used for if such a bond was issued, Najib, who is also Finance Minister, said it was not so much for the money as there was enough liquidity in the domestic system for development purposes.
Salam Tun & Fellow CheDet’s Bloggers,
I fully support RimbaMas view. Man-made laws as “Man” himself, are not perfect. As Muslim we believe only those Allah’s laws are absolute and perfect and must be obeyed by all Muslims. However many, even Muslim themselves, will and have questioned some laws as prescribed in Quran purely based on human logic which in turn will depend on one’s intellectual level & cultures etc.
A clear example is on “aurat”- a simple case. There are clear guideline for Muslim on this issue but how many follows? Because we use human logic and cultures.
By the way, if I am not mistaken the judge in the case is a lady. What I am trying to say is that why we ever wonder Islam is not encouraging a woman to be a judge? Some question and disagree strongly, especially those fighting for women equality including SIS, why in Islam, women should not be appointed as judge and 2 women witnesses will be required but one man would be acceptable? I do not wish to elaborate on matters as most of us are clearly ignorant about the subject. Another example, in the case where the Federal Court judge that sit on the use of word Allah case was also a lady judge and making it even worst she was also a non-muslim who obviously have no knowledge about Islam or was already prejudice on her judgement. What do we expect?
May Allah bless us all.
TDM, please read an interesting article here
http://malaysiakini.com/v6/link.php?http%3A%2F%2Ffeedproxy.google.com%2F~r%2FLoyarburok%2F~3%2FuxHLQ5yNSAE%2F)
written by NH Chan who has criticized you as one who should know what constitutes summary decisions.
I think it serves a very good lesson for TDM so that whenever TDM opens his mouth or writes in his blog, he (TDM) should anticipate the response and resent.
Well, I learn till the day we drop dead. It is not too late to do so even if I were to be in my mid-80s.
Dear Tun,
Bar council is just mock of opposition party to humiliate the present government which they don’t like. They will use every weapon in possession to destroy the credibility of any institution they don’t like. Bar council is also part of political organisation which seek to be an organisation who can influence or could decide who will be the judge. In this case, it clearly a political institution not the justice institution which is it original purpose was to uphold law and order of the country. For me, Bar council is hypocrisy at the highest.
I totally agree with donplaypuks on his comments.
Would TDM say anything about the way Kugan’s death came about. TDM doesn’t care much about the ordinary people but in the case of MC, his appearance speaks much about his discrimination.
Common, TDM! Don’t playpuks with us. We have grown up and we would not swallow what you profess in. Everyone knows what is behind this sandiwara being played on stage here in MC’s case.
It is another avenue of project TDM into the political stage that all would be well if TDM is back in politics. OMG, at this age in mid-80s.
I would prefer to spend more time serving God if I do have this long life as TDM. I would thank God for giving me that long opportunity to be on this planet to serve HIM. God knows my heart, He knows what I am up to and He through HIS divine hands directs the truth as truth is one of HIS commandments for man to indulge in. The truth will and shall prevail.
Tun,
You said, “
What MC does should be his business where there is no place for TDM to poke his nose in.
Every single Malaysian has his own rights and preferences as to how he should & would conduct himself; in defiance or otherwise in achieving or sending a message across. MC chose his & he should take responsibility over his actions; no TDM.
TDM should not even comment on this or trample over this right of MC; not just bcoz TDM was his former boss.
The law is the law. It is only whether the law is just or not which is left to the masses to decide as it affects the masses; not just one person or a dozen in hand. It cannot be serving unto just someone when it suits him. How ironical can TDM’s message to the world in this blog article.
He who sows, reaps and he who became his accomplice is similarly guilty. Contempt is contempt; no two ways about it. Just like the Lingam case. Why was it not emphasized with greater strength? Was it bcoz it has mentioned TDM’s involvement as known in the masses or was it not important to be given weight.
Deng Xiao Ping did say before, ” All men are born equal, but there are some who are more equal than others”. What analogy we witness here in Malaysia is most disgusting to the rational mind.
This is my point of view which MEANS it is my own personal view.
I think you all know that SHARING is CARING. With that in mind, I am going to share my views..
In this world, there are 2 types of people.
If a person remains passive all his/her life, then what he/she will be when he is 50 years old?
Logically, he would STRICTLY follow his own way of life and will defy/deny the real truth.
Fortunately, Tun Mahathir is NOT in this group.
Tun Mahathir is a person which belongs to the ‘active’ type. A person who belongs to this group will always be different and unique.
Now, back to the topic. If a judge is in the “passive” group, he or she will always be the pain in the axx for the society as a whole.
Lawyers have NO EXPERIENCE of running a country.
To the lawyers or the judges,
I think you know it is very difficult and challenging to manage your own family(energy, time, money,emotional stress).
So, do you think you can manage 27 millions people easily and with ease just by implementing certain rules?
If you really can manage better, then I would suggest you to be a party member of any parties that suits you and serve the country.
My dear lawyers or judges,
If I elect you as a Prime Minister,
My dear lawyers and judges,
Now, do you think ISA is needed to curb the unforeseen or foreseeable actions that can cause problems to our country.
If there is no law which can curb before the bad incident is gonna happen, then how would you be able to curb it?
Last but not least, your(lawyers/judges) thinking and mindset is not even the same as your children. So, pls don’t treat a person upholding his values which are NOT detrimental to our country just because you disagree with anyone.
AJP
Salam Tun.
Big majority of people are not very well versed on legal matters, but lately one thing certain is everywhere we are laughing at the profession. Laws (and also practices done by other professions) are drafted based on logic, but why the jokes? The simple reason is because Bar Council (BC)is nuts! Statements issued are always against Tun, especially during the era of ‘Mr clean & no quality’ Pak Dol. That KJ (kurang _jar) kid cunningly distributed sweets to them like putting their own Zaid ‘no principle’ looking after their affairs, allowing judge(?) Chin to make the cheekiest jib at Tun, accepting the ‘ethnic cleansing’ phrase by a group demonstration related to many of their kind. Worse of all is they never do/say wrong! Sometime you just wish the Germans of 1935-1945 to be back to take care of them!
The Appeal Court judges believed that Anwar did indulge in sodomy yet they acquit him! Bush detained suspected terrorists without any legal reference, but BC lashed out when we detain people under ISA! When Tun explained the details on the Salleh Abas saga BC still fully concurred that Tun has destroyed judiciary! To those in the BC who are nuts like your boss, just remember that you are wrong to negate us as nuts like you because that proof you’re 2 times nuts! Really some laughing matters.
When Tun carried out dawn raid back in early 1980s, they were definitely more pro than con. One definite con is Tun basically released them from the colonial estates and when later this allowed them to penetrate into BC, they behaved just like ‘melepaskan anjing tersepit’. Sometime you just have to accept why Idi Amin threw them out in Uganda! Sitiveni Rabuka definitely has bitter lessons from them in Fiji.
It looks as though that something has to be done but what? With all fairness, kalau pun member tu menyakitkan hati judge tu takkan sampai kena penjara 1 bulan macam pencuri biasa aja. Is it a crime what Mathias did to be punished like that? Sometime I don’t understand the law and the enforcement part of it. Macam dulu, ada kat TV, seorang yan ‘kecil’ (small fry) di tuduh rasuah. Beliau dibawa ke mahkamah dengan begiri. Tetapi ada a big fish dituduh rasuah (berjuta ringit) dibawa ke mahkamah tanpa digari. Pakai undang-undang Allah, tiada siapa akan persoalkan.
Salam Tun.
Big majority of people are not very well versed on legal matters, but lately one thing certain is everywhere we are laughing at the profession. Laws (and also practices done by other professions) are drafted based on logic, but why the jokes? The simple reason is because Bar Council (BC)is nuts! Statements issued are always against Tun, especially during the era of ‘Mr clean & no quality’ Pak Dol. That KJ (kurang _jar) kid cunningly distributed sweets to them like putting their own Zaid ‘no principle’ looking after their affairs, allowing judge(?) Chin to make the cheekiest jib at Tun, accepting the ‘ethnic cleansing’ phrase by a group demonstration related to many of their kind. Worse of all is they never do/say wrong! Sometime you just wish the Germans of 1935-1945 to be back to take care of them!
The Appeal Court judges believed that Anwar did indulge in sodomy yet they acquit him! Bush detain suspected terrorists without any legal reference, but BC lashed out when we detain people under ISA! Real laughing matters.
When Tun carried out dawn raid back in early 1980s, they were definitely more pro than con. Tun basically released them from the estates and when later they penetrated into BC, they behaved just like ‘melepaskan anjing tersepit’. Sometime you just have to accept why Idi Amim did to them in Uganda!
The man who caused the downfall of our previously highly respected judiciary has written about the sorry state of the judiciary. Since the good doctor must know better than anyone about unfairness, injustice, double standards, judges with self-interests etc, I wouldn’t dare challenge his intimate knowledge in these matters.
Dearest Tun,
WELL SAID TUN..
Thanks for advising Matthias Chang to stop his
SALAM BUAT TUN BERDUA MOGA DIRAHMATI ALLAH S.W.T
1) KISAH DALAM SEJARAH TELAH DICERITAKAN KEMBALI OLEH INDIVIDU-INDIVIDU SEPERTI ALLAHYARHAM HAMKA DAN YANG LAIN BAHAWA UNDANG-UNDANG YANG TIDAK BERPEGANG KEPADA TALI ALLAH S.W.T TELAH MENYUSAHKAN RAMAI YANG TERANAIYA.
2) MALAH DALAM AL-QURAN JUGA TELAH DI CERITAKAN PENGANAIYAAN OLEH PENGUASA-PENGUASA BESAR TERMASUKLAH APA YANG TELAH BERLAKU KEPADA RASUL-RASUL ALLAH S.W.T SEPERTI NABI YUSOF A.S DIPENJARAKAN SELAMA BEBERAPA TAHUN.
3) INI MENUNJUKKAN BOLEH BERLAKU PENYELEWENGAN YANG BERULANG-ULANG MENGIKUT PEREDARAN MASA DAN ZAMAN JIKA MANUSIA MEMBERI PELUANG KEPADA MEREKA YANG TIDAK MENYEMBAH ALLAH S.W.T UNTUK MENJATUHKAN HUKUMAN.
4) ADALAH TIDAK TEPAT JIKA SOAL KEISLAMAN DIBICARAKAN OLEH UNDANG-UNDANG BUKAN ISLAM. MAKSUDNYA UNDANG-UNDANG BERPANDUKAN KATA-KATA ALLAH S.W.T. MELALUI AL-QURAN.
5) AKHIRNYA SATU IKTIBAR JUGA KEPADA SAUDARA MATTIAS CHANG BAHAWA ADA YANG TIDAK KENA DENGAN UNDANG-UNDANG INI MAKA BERBAGAI CARA HENDAK DI BUAT SEPERTI BERPUASA.
6) ADAKAH DENGAN BERPUASA INI AKAN DAPAT MELEPASKANNYA DARI PENJARA ? BELIAU MENGIKUT CONTOH SAUDARA GHANDI. TIDAK MALAH AKAN LEBIH MEMUDARATKANNYA JIKA PUASANYA BUKAN SEPERTI PUASA UMAT ISLAM DI BULAN RAMADAN.
7) HANYA SATU CARA SAHAJA SUPAYA KISAH KEJADIAN SEPERTI INI YANG PERNAH KITA DENGARI BOLEH DIELAKKAN IALAH DENGAN MEMBUANG SEGALA PERATURAN-PERATURAN YANG BOLEH MENGANIAYA MANUSIA INI.
8) PERATURAN-PERATURAN YANG DIKENAKAN SEPERTI DENDA DAN PENJARA YANG TIDAK DAPAT MENYELESAIKAN KEJADIAN DARI BERULANG HENDAKLAH DIBUANG KERANA SEMUA ITU MAINAN MANUSIA UNTUK HABUAN SAMPINGAN.
9) CONTOHNYA HUKUM POTONG TANGAN KERANA MENCURI BUKANLAH SATU YANG ZALIM JIKA SEMUA USAHA LAIN YANG DIGANTI TIDAK DAPAT MENYELESAIKAN MALAH LEBIH MEMBAWA MALAPETAKA DALAM MASYRAKAT ITU. JADI ADA LOGIK APA YANG DI PERINTAHKAN OLEH ALLAH S.W.T.
10) MANUSIA AKAN MENCARI JALAN UNTUK MENGINKARI HUKUM-HUKUM ALLAH S.W.T KERANA WANG SEHINGGA SANGGUP PULA (SUDAH KELIHATAN) UNDANG-UNDANG BARU MEMBELA YANG DITUDUH WALAU PUN SUDAH JELAS KESALAHANNYA DIDEPAN MATA.
11) SUDAH TENTU SIMANGSA AKAN RUGI ATAS KOS YANG AKAN DITANGGUNG SEDANGKAN KEJADIAN ITU DIPUNCAKAN OLEH SI TERTUDUH. MAKA INI SUDAH TENTU TIDAK DAPAT MENGINSAFKAN SITERTUDUH MENGULANGI KEJADIAN ITU KERANA TIDAK TAKUTKAN HUKUMAN YANG SETIMPAL YANG AKAN DIKENAKAN.
12) SUDAHLAH DIA TIDAK TAKUT AZAB SEBENAR OLEH ALLAH S.W.T KERANA BELUM DILAKSANAKAN LAGI MALAH DIBERI PELUANG PULA OLEH UNDANG-UNDANG DI DUNIA INI BERMAHRAJALELA MALAH BOLEH PULA MENGGANGGU MANUSIA YANG PATUH KEPADA ALLAH S.W.T.
13) MANUSIA SALAH MEMILIH CARA YANG SEBENAR YANG PATUT DILAKUKAN UNTUK MENYELESAIKAN MASAALAH ITU KERANA HARTA DUNIA DAN KUASA MENGIKUT NAFSU.
15) KES BICARA YANG TIADA BUKTI YANG JELAS PERLULAH MELALUI UNDANG-UNDANG MENGIKUT AGAMA SI MANGSA DAN SI TERTUDUH SUPAYA SEKURANG-KURANGNYA ADA PERTIMBANGAN YANG DIADILI BAGI KEDUA-DUA PIHAK.
WALLAHU’ALAM
Laws are meant for a purpose and cannot be interpreted out of context. Whether the law is abused or used depends on those who implement, and not solely on the lawmakers.
In the case on Matthias, the judge seems to have abused his powers to silence a senior lawyer of good standing who I can imagine must have been critically challenged the judge’s procedures.
ISA is capable of being abused, but it wasn’t under your tenure. Without the ISA we would be under military rule now, and that’s what we would devolve into if we accede to PR’s campaign without thinking.
The only recourse victims have is sane thinking people like you.
Personally, i believe the law of contempt should remain as it is. dear tun, i really respect what you have done for the country. but this is the part that i beg to differ.
The law of contempt is designed to prevent members of the public from disrespecting the court. Therefore it should be up to the judge in question to decide whether there is contempt. What would happen if there is to be another proceeding just to try the case for contempt, there would be tons of cases flying around. And this may deter judges from invoking such law when required, which would not be good for the objective stated above.
As long as the appeal process is within reasonable time (as the punishment is , i do not see any problem. I’m sure the judge who uses this power in an unjust way will be judge by his/her own peers. The power should be exercised sparingly as and when required.
Whether the judge was right to use the law of contempt, i am not sure. lets see what the judge at the appellate court says.
And by comparing MC’s silly fast to that of Mahatma Ghandhi, you are clearly insulting Ghandhi!! Ghandhi was fighting for the Independence of an entire nation from a colonial power.
Whose interest was MC fighting for by jumping the gun and behaving like a petulant child in open court and at that by a trained lawyer who should know all about according due respect to a judge in his own court?
It’s ridiculous to put MC and Ghandhi on the same planet!
And where were you when other innocent M’sians were arrested in car parks, sidewalks, at 3 a.m. at home, by balaclava donning cops with sub-machine guns, in their own offices and hancuffed in front of their staff just a day before Ramadan etc., etc., etc?
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race
Tun
I sincerely hope that MC will end his self-imposed fast and recover well. However,I have no empathy for his conduct.
The FACT remains that MC has the entire avenue of due process and the appeals system to seek justice, if he was indeed denied justice and/or treated unfairly at the lowest level of our judiciary system.
As for your sudden concern about contempt hearings and outburst that these should be handled by a 2nd judge, it comes across as hypocritical and a little if not a lot, self serving. You saw nothing wrong with it when you were in power for 22 years or when it did not involve your ex-aide!! When people challenged you previously on the neutrality of many of our senior judges, you always maintained that they followed the law of the land. Now you cast doubt on the very system you had a big hand in shaping and supported, including the abuse and misuse of the ISA, especially by yourself!!
No, I don’t agree with MC going on a death fast until he’s exhausted all legal remedies and avenues!! Anyway it all looks and sound very theatrical and contrived with him being “convinced” by you to relent when his wife, children, parents and siblings appeared unable to talk him out of his selfish act!
I can only say to MC, GROW UP, and fast!!
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race
BENAR TUN. MAJLIS PEGUAM PUN DAH TAK BERMULUT. MULUT MEREKA DAN LIDAH MEREKA BERCABANGM MEREKA ADA AGENDANYA. APA SALAH MATHIAS CHANG?
BENAR TUN. MAJLIS PEGUAM PUN DAH TAK BERMULUT. MULUT MEREKA DAN LIDAH MEREKA BERCABANGM MEREKA ADA AGENDANYA. APA SALAH MATHIAS CHANG?
tun, if the judge did the wrong doing, i believe there are code of ethics or code of conduct for judges. we have ketua hakim negara for that.
i think the real issue is: how would you feel if your counterpart as politician when in your pm office and make an argument, and suddenly leave your pm office while saying, “tun, it is up to you you either you want to finish me or save me”.
should you end up by kill your counterpart in politics or would you will refer it to the 3rd party?
knowing you, the politician is finished before he walkout the putrajaya office.
thank you.
Dear Ayahanda Tun,
If Bar Council can solve all matters regarding justice in the name of Bar Council, Malaysia, then the case of Matthias Chang being arrested in the car park would not have had happened in the first place.
To prove that Bar Council is the Upmost Juctice in the Federal Territory, Malaysia, the President has demonstrated his stand that his way of handling the case is the most accurate and best way in maintaining the court order.
To the Bar Council, the President is the greatest of all, and he might be thinking that Malaysia is still the colony of Britain, and who is Matthias Chang, the Malaysia citizen, to tell off the British Bar Council in Malaysia, eventhough he is willing to pay for the penalty on the next day.
Does the President of Bar Council knows what is the function of our Jabatan Peguam Negara?
There is no double standard in all systems.
Double standards occured because they are not aware of the main standard.
This President would be pressured to resign from his position as the President, and I am sure (Ravi) would be furiated because he believes that they are the still the Rajans (Raja-Raja India?) of Federal Territory, Malaysia.
If Bar Council does not know what is national democracy in Federal Territory, it would be better off for them not to practice international democarcy in the name of Britain Bar Council in Malaysia.
Ayahanda Tun, ‘Kerajaan Negara’ cannot intervene such case because if they did, they would be accused of being a crony of Dr Mahathir Mohamad.
In Malaysia, only Agong has the power to prosecute Bar Council under Federal Constitution, Malaysia.
The King of Thailand will not intervene the Red Shirt Protest in the name of Peace, Democracy and Development of Thailand today since the Police and Army Forces paid by Thai’s tax payers’ monies to maintain the country’s stability and peace.
Have a pleasant day, Ayahanda Tun.
An Australian Judge was very rude and failed to respect the dignity of a Malaysian fraudster on April 8th, set the criminal free. This case is very similar to what Matthias Chang went thru but both were treated differently! why there aren’t any local news writing about Matthias hunger strike? This is saddening.
Salam buat Ayahanda Tun,
Lantik sajalah presiden majlis peguam jadi ketua hakim, semua masalah perundangan yang membelenggu kita akan selesai – sebab orang lain masih tak cerdik lagi pasal undang-undang..