2. What I was talking was about sensitivity – about the need for people to be sensitive to the feelings of other people. It was not about Islam or its teachings or its history per se. It is about the Malays and the non-Malays in this multiracial, multi religious country and their sensitivities.
3. You may not notice it but I also mentioned the sensitivities of other races in Malaysia.
4. I didn’t use language meant to irritate which I could very well do, as good as anybody else.
5. My criticism against the Bar Council is because of its insensitivity and arrogance. I can say a few things about some members of the Bar Council in order to hurt. But I did not. I should really, because the Bar Council was instrumental in persuading the Royal Commission that it was possible I was influenced in the choice of judges by V.K. Linggam and that I should be investigated. It was an exercise in taking me down a peg.
6. Sensitivities of people differ. We don’t wear chador in Malaysia but go to the countries where the chador is de rigueur and wear a miniskirt because it is your right. Then you will see what will happen. Even Queen Elizabeth covered up sufficiently when visiting Saudi Arabia. She was sensitive, her royal rights notwithstanding.
7. Other countries have different interpretations of Islam and it is their right. In fact even Christian countries have their sensitivities. Or the levels of their sensitivities may be different.
8. Go to some European countries and you will find condoms on the steps of churches. In others, Christian priests officiate marriages between man and man, woman and woman and they raise families by having sex with other people. It is fine there because it is their interpretation of their rights. But why stop there? Why arrest couples having sex in full view of people in a park? Isn’t it their right too? But the people object. They are sensitive to this. What is the difference? You know very well that they do this at home anyway. And you do it too. But I think you also feel it is not right. You would feel offended as your child ask you “What are they doing Papa (or Mama)?” as the case may be.
9. The non-Malays in Malaysia have a lot of sensitive issues too. We cannot touch on them. We would be accused of being racist, being insensitive, provocative and offensive.
10. But supposing we ignore their sensitivities and we talk loudly about them. They would not like it. They may reply in kind, perhaps more insultingly.
11. Then we have to increase our insulting remarks in order to annoy, knowing that what we say would irritate and anger them.
12. The end result must be tension between the races in Malaysia which may lead to violence, continuous violence. Lives may be lost and property destroyed.
13. You can tell relatives of the people killed or owners of the property destroyed that this is okay, this is human rights, this is freedom, this is democracy. Think they will celebrate and offer more of their relatives to be killed so that you can behave insensitively?
14. I may be against the present Government but that does not mean I must forsake all that I believe in.
15. I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country. It had paid off hansomely. We would not be where we are today if we slug verbally or otherwise, at each other every day.
16. Some countries may be more open than others and still remain stable. Almost all these countries are single ethnic developed countries with the majority of the people atheistic. Still you don’t call a black man a nigger but it is okay to call him an SOB (Son of a B***h).
17. But ours is not. Ours is multi-ethnic country where assimilation has not taken place. After hundreds of years you insist on still being what you are. Still for 50 years we managed to remain stable without the kind of conditions imposed by developed countries on new citizens.
18. We were able to do this because we were willing to accept minor restrictions, we are sensitive to the feelings of others.
19. Other newly independent countries attempting to practice even basic democracy have all become very unstable. Their people remained poor and the poor became poorer, despite being single ethnic.
20. If what we want is to be able to provoke people as a matter of right more than our own well-being and that of fellow citizens then be insensitive and have open debates by selected people whose views are already known, who are insensitive to the sensitivities of others but are very sensitive about their rights to be insensitive, whatever the cost to others and the country.
salam Tun
totally agree with u
they are the true racist!
they want us to respect them, but they didn’t practic the same as they wish us to do…
they want us to be one of them, but they forget that we are totally diferent; as we still can define, what is respect, what is prejudice..
they had flew overseas for knowledges, but they lefted all those ‘food for soul’ on the planes.. poor them!
*don’t know why i wrote in english.. but hope you understand my ‘pre-school’ standard of steven gerrad’s language. hehe
Dear Tun, my brothers and sisters,
I dont think the Chinese, Indians will ever be at peace with the Malays. They never want to be a part of us. They shunned everything we offer, school, National Service. They have not been grateful for what they have enjoyed in Malaysia. They are allowed to prosper here. Look at all the big corporates, who are the owners? Who are in the key management? Take a look at the banking institutions? How many malays among the management staff? And the doctors, enginneers, accountants and other proffesionals? How many malays are there? Who occupy Damansara, Hartamas, Bangsar and all the high end places?
Now let us turn to our neigbouring countries. Take a look at Thailand, Indonesia, Phillipines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos. Could the chinese proper in these countries like they what they achieved in Msia? They would have been slaugthered. Oh the Malays, how they have been too generous to these ungrateful people. We allowed them to prosper and nothing did we touch on their parts. And not suffice for them the material wealth, now the want to revise the social contract? We have lost one island on the south, and the Malays there are in a very sad state, both spiritually and materially. Are we willing to have a “peninsular singapore” ?
Frankly, in my opinion, Tunku and the Malays have made a big mistake when fighting for independence. Why do we need to grant citizenship? The British, when they brought the visitors here, they have ignored the “property rights” of the malays here. I wonder why, since the British are aware of the “property rights” doctrine and they have immigation laws, that no one can freely go the Britain illegally and later claimed citizenship. And the British ignore that in Tanah Melayu. We know how sad the situation was in China at that time. British should take the visitors to Britain!
Its not that we are selfish lots or we like to kill as Islam prohibits us from that and we fear Allah, the Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
We should have shed some bloods at that time (independence).
Salam Tun..
Satu komen yng bernas,untuk makluman Bar Council bukan nya mewakili seluruh peguam negara ini,,terdapat lebih 12 ribu peguam di Malaysia yg berdaftar ngn Bar Council,,tpi yg wat keputusan Ambiga,,dan ahli mesyurat tingkap aje,,dan mesyuart lalu yg mansuhkan ISA hanya persrtjuan atau memorandum dari 795 orng peguam sahaja sedangkan jumlah peguam sebenar lbih 12 ribu,, tak sampai 10 peratus,,adakah ini mencerminkan pandangn semua peguam,,saptutnya Persatuan peguam islam harus bangkir n suarakan pandangn…kena kuasai media..ambiga ada agenda politik,,msia tidak bole terlalu bebas,,Amerikaun tak bebeas sepnuhnya,,,hak sama rata memng bagus tapi adakah bangsa melayu dan bumiputera boleh bersaing..sednagkan dalam keadaan sekarang 90% eknomi dan ekuti negara dikuasai bukan Melayu..jadi adalah adil atau satu kontrak sosail yg orang melayu kuasai pentdbiran negara dan politik manakala bukan melayu kuasai ekonomi,,kalau la Pakatan Rakyat memerintah nescaya kuasa politk dan pentdbiran Melayu dalam kerajaan akan berkurangan,melayu dan bumiputera akan kurang pengaruh ekonomi dan kurang pengruh politik,,tak dapat nak bayangkan apa yg berlaku,,sy percaya orng bukan melayu pun tak nak kuasai kedua2 nya iaitu ekonomi dan politik,,biralah orng emlayu kuasai politk dan orng Cina khususnya kuasai ekonomi,,ini juga sebenarnya satu kontrak soisal,,anyway nama sy sekaan nama Tun maybe sama orng kedah kot,,n memang bapa saya beri nama ni 35 tahun lalu n ramalan Tun akan jadi PM benar belaka,,,
Salam Buat Tun dan Keluarga,
As much as I want to believe that one day there will be Malaysia for Malaysians, deep down inside I still have doubt that it will ever happen. I have travelled to enough places to see people of the same ethnicity being marginalized due to the caste system up to this day, passed by a shanty town where thousands lives in huts made of boxes and discards, heard stories about baby girls disappeared due to family planning policy, watched my own people being told over and over again that they are not good enough under so called meritocracy,took a wrong turn and suddenly realized that my live was at stake in so called the greatest country in the world for violence is the order of the day, it is just that we don’t see it on TV.
How can there be equality if some of us don’t even help our own kind?
As corny as it may sound, I do believe we should give peace a chance for without it everything else is not worth it. I came across a very meaningful poem several years ago and has been one of my favourite ever since :
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WORSE
Sometimes I pause and sadly think
Of the things that might have been,
Of golden chances I let slip by,
And which never returned again.
think of the joys that might have been mine;
The prizes I almost won,
The goals I missed by a mere hair’s breadth;
And the things I might have done.
It fills me with gloom when I ponder thus,
Till I look on the other side,
How I might have been completely engulfed
By misfortune’s surging tide.
The unknown dangers lurking about,
Which I passed safely through
The evils and sorrows that I’ve been spared
Pass plainly now in review.
So when I am downcast and feeling sad,
I repeat over and over again,
Things are far from being as bad
As they easily might have been.
by G. J. Russell
P.S
“We love your Premier” a common remarks about you from quite a number of people that I met during my various trips long ago.
A’kum Tun,
Apa pendapat Tun tentang ” Tak akan hilang Melayu di dunia” oleh datuk Hang Tuah suatu ketika dulu?
Selamat Berpuasa buat Tun dan Keluarga
Tun, I support you 100%, UMNO is very very weak now, something need to be done to rejuvenate its strength. Lets the new leader led UMNO.
Hairan tapi benar, The Non Malay can say anything about the Malay and Islam,but if Malay say Chinese is immigrant they say Malay is racist and UMNO leader quickly apologise and action to be taken under the Seditious Act. No action on Seditious Act to Bar Council when they talk on Malay and Is;lam , no action against Wee Meng Chee when he degraded Negara ku and Malay, no action to Karpal Singh when he insulted the Malay Ruler and Islam. Unfortuately these are the leaders we are having now, the PM and TPM are too weak to rule this country I dont know what they are doing, what happened to UMNO members, so many of them having self interest and wealth not for the Malay and nation.
Can we resolve a problem by avoiding?
Avoiding is never a correct way to resolve sensitive issue. Racist issue will not happen if YOU categorized them as MALAYSIAN.
MALAYSIA is a country for MALAYSIAN. It should not be differentiated as MALAY, CHINESE, INDIAN … Thanks to you, BAPA perMODENan.
Completed TASKS
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1. Rancangan MALAYSIA is to reduce the numbers of POOR MALAYSIAN.
2. Everyone have the fair chances to enter UNIVERSITY.
3. PROTECT…PROTECT…PROTECT capable, talented people in MALAYSIA.
4. Knowledge, Education and Technology is so much important to develop a country and it has nothing to do with religious and patriotic.
5. Politicians are so much busy with country’s development and not with racist and religious issue.
6. Religion department will be the KEY person to spread their religious.
7. Politicians and religion department has their own clear job scope.
8. …
9. …
10. …
You are someone I respected but you ruined all this by your childishness. YOU vote a person UP, and you vote a person DOWN. Leader of the country is like a doctor in a surgery room. You are not in a market buying a kilo of vegetable. You should lead like a jeneral in a war.
Speechless citizen
Saya setuju dengan pendapat Tun,
hormat orang dahulu, baru kita di hormati
fahami adab setiap bangsa & agama, bertoleransi
baru la capai kata sepakat, hidup aman harmoni
tetapi, amalan yang baik itu di ketepikan,
yang jahat selalu menjadi pilihan.
Salam Tun and all dear bloggers,
Brilliant, straight-forward and realistic. But just wonder how many Malaysian politicians and MPs of today (on both sides of the bench)are as brilliant and realistic. Yang satu berdengkur & pekak-tuli and yang satu lagi terus berteriak kepada yang pekak. Apooo nama utai nyak Malaysia..??
Selamat Menyambut Hari Kemerdekaan Yang Ke 51, semoga Malaysia terus aman dan makmur.
Dear Tun,
You are a big papa. You love us so much that you behave like a nervous father who worry too much for his growing children behavior. You spoon feed us and you give us almost everything for free at the expense of others.
You are also the Champion of racial based political philosopher. UMNO-BN is like the relationship of water and oil. No matter what we do, such system will separate us indefinitely. In Islamic teaching, we are known as Muslims for our beliefs in Islam and Allah never discriminate racial differences. My point is, we have become so sensitive and emotional simply because of our social structure being developed by the racial based political system. Such system is evidently ineffective to the extent it is destroying our generation. The most we could produce under present system is increasing the quantity of jaguh kampong, not quality.
Please open our eyes to observe, I am glad to see rural Malays are becoming more matured and not as innocent under your time. The result of Permating Pauh clearly shows that most Malays don’t buy UMNO’s philosophy anymore and they prefer alternative solution.
Your article still talks about the racial sensitivity and no doubt the points are valid and logical, I still felt you are a big papa. Please let us grow up by not singing the same old song. I strongly urge you to move forward with new vision for Bangsa Malaysia. (Malaysia boleh is out, Bangsa Malaysia is in!)
Sir with all due respect from one that has admired you from the time she was a child,I feel that the problems we face today in M’sia lies with the fact that we have no forum for discussion for issues that affect all Malaysians. I think Islam is a beautiful religion that warrants much respect but not the way its used our country. Instead of embracing it excludes and that what the problem is. Our Constitution has conveniently stated that you can’t be malay and not be a muslim. Etnicity and religion are two separate issues. And when religion creeps into legal and social issues like inter faith marriage how has keeping silent helped anyone? With regard to Malay rights and privileges, if the Malays cannot see the irreparable harm its caused them then they are fooling themselves.Only a small percentage actually benefit from the NEP.The rest of the malays stay poor and uneducated in total ignorance of what’s going on.Then come election time these malays are told to vote for BN because they will protect them against the other races through the NEP and just to prove it here’s RM300.I really think that Malays need to wake up to the reality that they are capable of so much more if then the govt gives them credit for. The stability you describe is a superficial one & I think when the malays finally realize how they’ve been shortchanged and fooled, the current govt as handed down by you will face an immeasurable backlash. Til then the reign of silence will live on as sanctioned by a govt who cares so much about its people just not their concerns and views. And the malays whose rights are being championed so furiously will remain uneducated and impoverished.
The speakers for the Forum are well respected Muslim Scholars/professors, do you think they are stupid enough to talk about something that may cuase tension to the Muslim?
The problem is people don’t even bother to find out about the contents of the forum but to label the forum as talking about something sensitive whenever the word “Islam” is being mentioned.
When can we let non Muslim understand Islam if that is always the case?
Assalammualaikum Yang Berbahagia Tun Mahathir Mohamad,
Tun, pihak kami mewakili sebahagian besar rakyat Malaysia meminta dengan seikhlas hati agar Yang Berbahagia Tun dapat bertanding semula tidak kira dalam apa jua Parti Perjuangan selagi Tun mewakili memperjuangkan Bangsa & Rakyat Malaysia secara umumnya bagi menyelamatkan Bangsa Melayu yang hampir hancur berderai & pihak kami akan menyokong 200%.
Cuma kami adalah rakyat biasa yang tidak dipandang secara nyata tetapi kami mempunyai kekuatan dalam menentukan kerajaan & secara jujurnya menolak pemerintahan Abdullah Badawi dan parti kabinetnya & kami ahli UMNO mengundi PKR di dalam pilihanraya yang lepas & menyebabkan kebanyakkan kerusi dimenangi oleh PKR bukan disebabkan menyokong PKR tetapi menunjukkan rasa tidak puashati & protes terhadap pemerintahan beliau kerana kami tiada cara lain untuk memberitahu & sehingga kini pun masih buat tak tahu walaupun BN kalah di kerusi Permatang Pauh walaupun menabur & melabur berjuta-juta ringgit.
(Nota: Kalau GILA KUASA pun janganlah menjual Maruah & harga diri & kadang-kadang peminta sedekah ditepi jalan pun pandai memilih haram & halal.)
Harap pihak Tun dapat mempertimbangkan permintaan, rayuan & permohonan kami bagi menyelamatkan Generasi bangsa Melayu yang akan datang tidak kiralah apa orang lain nak kata yang penting dasar perjuangan setia, ikhlas & dari dulu kini dan selamanya kami masih tetap setia & menyokong Tun selama-lamanya & jasa mu senantiasa dikenang.
Selamat berpuasa dan salam bahagia.
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assalamualaikum ybg Tun,
dalam pembentukkan negara malaysia, sabah sarawak dan singapura masing2 menggunakan nama asalnya kecuali PTM(11 negeri). ada baiknya bagi sebelas negeri in dinamakan semula melalui perlembagaan PTM, Sabah dan Sarawak membentuk negara MALAYSIA dengan itu ia akan kekal terpahat secara perlembagaan bahawa negeri2 tersebut adalah milik rakyat pribumi yang mana datuk nenek merekalah membuka negeri dan hak ketuanan keatas negara malaysia dipelihara olih perlembagaan. bagi rakyat yang asalnya perdatang bertaraf sebagai warganegara MALAYSIA, manakala penduduk peribumi bertaraf bumiputra. bukan kita hendak mendiskrimasikan kaum pendatang, cuma kita mahukan mereka sedar bahawa mereka ada negeri asalnya dan bagi peribumi sabah, sarawak dan PTM inilah negeri asal mereka dengan itu juga bagi warga yang asalnya pendatang sedar secara `common sense` bahawa negeri ini bukan milik datuk nenek mereka. sebagai contoh, penyewa menjemput orang kerumahnya, dia tidak menjemput orang `jomlah kerumah sewa aku` tentunya dia menyebut kerumah aku, tetapi hakikatya rumah itu bukan miliknya.
proffesion peguam memang diketahui umum yang kerjanya banyak mengarut berbanding kebenaran, jadinya `bar council` tu bapak pengarutlah. kalau tidak masakan orang bersalah bolih terlepas dan orang tak bersalah bolih terhukum olih pandainya peguam2 bermain lidah dan dengan alasan itu juga bapa abu nuwas melarang anaknya menjadi qadhi. peguam ni dia tidak berpaksi kepada mana2 agama, sebab mana2 agama sekalipun mengajar pengamalnya membela kebenaran bukan membela kabatilan, mana2 akal sekalipun jika dibiarkan bersendirian dengan tidak merujuk kepada agama ia pasti sesat, bagi saya, tiada agama bagi pengamal undang2 selagi dia tidak merujuk kepada agamanya,majoritinya agama mereka adalah DUIT.
sekian salam bahagia untuk Tun sekeluarga yang dihormati
Salam Ayahda Tun …
Apa gunanya MAJLIS PEGUAM MALAYSIA jika fungsinya hanya utk mengganggu gugat kemakmuran dan keamanan negara?????. Siapakah ahli2 MPM nih?? sebenarnya apa tujuan MPM diadakan?? Ada sesiapakah yg mengawal pergerakkan mereka sementelah mereka tak punya rasa kepekaan yang dalam??…Perlu adakah kelulusan jika perbincangan yg se sensitif ini diadakan??…sebenarnya kami ingin hendak bertanya SALAH SIAPAKAH sehingga perkara yang sensitif spt ini dibincangkan??..masih lagi MPM kah???..Rakyat ingin tahu siapakah yang meluluskannya???…atau kerajaan saja meluluskannya selepas itu menyalahkan pihak2 tertentu??? dan dri itu nampaklah kelemahan pihak2 tertentu ketika memerintah?? selepas itu ia dipolitikkan??…
Malang sungguh kita rakyat Malaysia…macamana hendak “compete” dgan negara maju jika “ishikawa diagram” pun tak lulus lagi??? klu buat pun sekadar atas kertas..macmana hendak selesaikan masalah dan tahu “root of the cause”??? simpan je lah nak jadi negara maju…lagi2 dgn pentadbiran yg ada sekarang….lembik…
Maaflah terpaksa berterus terang sbb itulah kenyataannya…nak menjerit2 pun dikata tak siuman jadi duduk je diam2…lepas tu join budak2 UiTM sbb mereka lebih “power” dan memprotes bukan kerana duit!! tidak spt pak menteri2 kat atas tu..lagak pandai kerja “no quality”…
Maaflah kali nih keras skit..hanya Tun saja tmpt menumpang harap dan tmpt mengadu. kami hanya akan dngar cakap Tun sahaja sbb Tun x punya “personal interests”…apa2 pun KAMI SAYANG TUN…..kini & selamanya..
Salam buat semua..dan SELAMAT MENYAMBUT KEMERDEKAAN YG KE 51…
some fourteen hundred years ago the foremost of man said to the effect that if one has nothing good to say, then to stay oneself is the next good.
it is also said that “good” is relative. what is meat to one is poison to others. “right” is also relative. what the bar council feels right to babble others feel it is more right to stay.
it is clear that absolute “good” or “right” is not ours to say, let alone own. to act otherwise is to play god. for those who believe the after-life, it is only after death that one sees clearly what absolute “good” or “right” really is and to whom this absolute entity belongs.
so before that (death), it is wise always to think of others as well as of oneself. we today we malaysians name it tolerance and apply it to RACIAL TOLERANCE.
much have been said of the so called wisdom-of-the-east. so in applying “self-right” it is not wise to apply wisdom-of-the-west while ignoring wisdom-of-the-east.
the wise (sages?) of the bar council have enough faculty to “feel” both sides of this coin when they wanted to open their mouths about their “rights” and islam. sadly they did not use enough faculties and wisdom. that is not being wise.
we layman look up to their wisdom, not to them, for tomorrow someone shall occupy their seats. but their present wisdom breeds chaos. it is said that wisdom brings tranquility and happiness even long life. chaos and divisions doesn’t equate.
come on big brothers of the bar council; we never expect this of you. wisdom either unites or divides depending in whose hands it resides. the ends tell the means. you mean to divide. how mean of you, verging to evil.
Sorry Tun
To Anba,
Diam adalah lebih baik daripada menyakitkan hati orang.
Jangan bercakap pada perkara-perkara yang anda kurang arif.
So Shut Up !!!!!!!
Salam YAB Tun
Tulisan ini sepatutnya datangnya daripada PAK LAH bukan YAB Tun
Itulah bezanya Tun dengan Pak Lah !!!!
TERUSKAN MEMBERI INSPIRASI KEPADA KAMI TUN
My dear TDM
Someone had asked you to
âJUST KEEP YOUR STUPID MOUTH SHUT – YOU WILL BE DOING A BIG FAVOUR TO THE NATIONâ.
To this, I would add that most times people tend to be too quick in their judgement let alone being harsh with their words. This is exactly the problem with our nation today. Everyone seems to think they know better than the next guy. When it comes to walk the talk..they are never there to stand up and be counted. In life, one must realise we canât please everyone all the time. For what you did during your tenure as PM, you have done your very best for the country..though I believe you could have been a little more short sighted not knowing your people who stood and worked beside you. Thereâre certainly no angels in your political days and definitely not in todayâs political time. Iâm proud that you have now voiced out, even on your retirement, those years of thriving and agony you have been through. If I read it correctly, itâs more to repenting and wishing you could have done more to correct the wrong. At least you still care for the nation. No doubt we may have whatever grievances or outlook, that differs from one another. But there is absolutely no cause for the people to be too overly critical. Non productive cristicisms are not good for the nation. Instead of adding more problems to the country, we should all put our heads together to find a SOLUTION to the problem. Letâs walk the talk. Stay focus and be respectful..and hopefully our nation will breed a better and more refined rakyat..Syabas.
Take care and God bless you TDM
YAB Tun,
This is my first comment in your blog, Tun.
I have always admired your leadership from the perspective of how you led this country towards modernisation, eventhough it came at a price. It is most sad the cost of it is now begining to surface.
I served the uniform for 22 years and always had nothing but admiration for Islam and compassionate for Malays. It was so because religion and race, to me, were mere tools to an end. The end that really mattered most was professionalism and being rightfully fair everyone based on principles and value.
Unfortunately, thanks to some quarters, today we have radical leaders who are turning the religion of islam into something distasteful – specifically how it creates disruption and disharmony within families. Just think over it, for a second.
I wish to qualify here, that I am not refering to the many non-malay adults who embrace islam out of their own free will for whatever reason there be – be it marriage, economic or even ignorance. These people are grown-up to know what is in store when it terms of leaving islam. But, what about those family members who become innocent victims – the spouses and children whose lives are torn apart. Does anyone ever care about their sensitiveness and the emotional turmoil that they go through. How many cases have surfaced and what remedies or recourse has the government addressed these issues.
How many days has gone pass since the Bar council’s forum. Right from the PM, DPM, and other loud mouth muslim politicians have voiced their protest but who has come forward and given assurance that the rights of a non-muslim parent in determining the religion of a minor will be protected until the child comes of adult age.
Now, is it so hard to comprehend and empathise the plight of a non muslim parent, which invariably almost always involves a MOTHER and her children.
I am sad to see that women NGO’s have not come out in fighting this cause. Why?. Is this not a womens ministry issue?. Where are the womens NGO organisations – sisters in Islam. Does religion superseed the common decency to ACT with good faith and conscience.
Is this the true measure of what Malaysia stands for – it is ok to break up a family so long as Islam prevails.
For heavens sake, lets put a stop to all these nonsense about racial sensitivity and Islamic rights. The future happiness of a mother and her children is more important to preserve than to think about race and jurisdiction issues.
Have a heart and ask, if it were to happen to your family, how would you feel. When the government ignores and sleeps through the hardship of affected families, can you blame people, (in this case the bar council) from rufling a few feathers?.
OK, so now what happens. Let us see what that big mouth Ahmad Zaidi is going to do in addressing this fundamantal issue of child conversion involving converted parent. He should initiate some form of proactive action, instead of questioning and suggesting sedition charges.
I would have thought perhaps Tun would have a way, but instead ….
I do believe you have a big heart and trust that you will come through in making malaysia even better place for all MALAYSIANS.
God bless you, Tun.
Salam Tun Sir,
I have been silently reading your blog since you started. This time I am compelled to comment. I like this article and in particular:
“20. If what we want is to be able to provoke people as a matter of right more than our own well-being and that of fellow citizens then be insensitive and have open debates by selected people whose views are already known, who are insensitive to the sensitivities of others but are very sensitive about their rights to be insensitive, whatever the cost to others and the country”.
You are right to an extent. There are trade-offs that must be made. I am equally concerned that people are being duped by the “political game and illusions” while ignoring the basic well being of the ordinary rakyat. I suppose this is a process as decreed by God that we must undergo?
Salam and be well.
dear Tun
guide us, how do we defend against these people, their hypocrisies and treacheries. or is offensive the better defence? but what and how?
kind rgds
fauzil
Pls BAR COUNCIL..take the wisdom from TUN’s writings…Why are they (the office bearers of BAR COUNCIL) so stupid..nowadays? Just like what YB Bro Zul said..BAR COUNCIL is full of racist people…
Permisi Tun,
saya memang seronok membaca aktikel kali ini.
MPM memang tidak patut menganjur forum itu, betul kata TUN mereka ini bebal, kenape issu masalah kuar masuk islam mesti dibincang,
Issu sebenar nya masalah jurisdiction antara mahkamah syariah dan sivil berkenaan kebajikan manusia yang terpalit dalam kancah keruntuhan perhubungan suami isteri yang hendak meneruskan hidup yang tenteram. Masalah ini seharus nya diperbetul dan diuruskan oleh pihak ada kuasa memutuskan apa2 tindakan yang difikirkan wajar untuk pasangan itu hidup diatas dunia ini, dan bukan mengambil sikap tidak boleh membuat keputusan atas alasan apa sekali pun.
Salam Tun n chedet.com fan…
Kenapa semasa Tun menjadi PM,
tiada yang berani berkata mengenai isu perkauman???
Kenapa sekarang isu ini menjadi-jadi???
Sebabnya,
Tun seorang pemimpin yang tegas dan berpendirian….
Tetapi Pak Lah……. Hampeh!!!
Pak Lah sememangnya tidak layak menerajui negara….
A’kum Tun & pembaca2 blog chedet,
Saya setuju dengan komen emma49. Sentimen terhadap Datuk Sami Vellu adalah menebal dikalangan orang India. Kawan2 india saya mengatakan mereka memangkah pembangkang bukan kerana BN tetapi kerana Sami Velu. Datuk Ong Ka Ting dan beberapa political leader yang lain mengambil langkah bijak meletak jawatan sebagai bertanggungjawab terhadap kekalahan mengejut PRU12. Amat malang kerana presiden UMNO dan MIC masih mahu menerajui parti. Apakah ada masa depan UMNO dan MIC?
Regards,
http://www.my-security-at-home.com
Excuse me Mr. Tun,
To Mr. Anba,
1. It’s not clear in that ayat what is the cause of action if a Muslim marries a non-Muslim.
– you don’t need to worry coz there is no such action like slaughter. In Islam, to be unbeliever is prohibited and for the transgression, you were promised by god the fire of Hell which is prepared for those who reject faith. I hope you do understand this. Its the same thing like Hindu who likes/want to eat beef. And people of another religion and marriage among people of different religion is not a myth! But every country has their own law. You can fulfill the law or you can make a public rebuke to demolish it. God had said in Surah Al-Baqarah Verse # 216 :- ââ¦â¦ But it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you.Allah knoweth ,you know not.â We try to base our decision on the basis of our mere likes and dislikes, giving no importance to what lies in our best interests.Strange â¦â¦ But true. Afterall what do we know about what is going to help us and what is going to lead us to the wrong or the right path. ????? Allah has planned something much better than what we asked ,which will someday glow its charm. We cannot understand Allahâs planning, humans are not blessed with the capacity to understand it.
Mr. Anba,
I think that the hue and cry about the forum simply because of they were in a grey area. They got the info from the wrong horse’s mouth such as the stupid propagaters and arrogant politicions who would move the heaven and earth at any price just to fulfill their hidden agenda. Some people would love to add more insult to injury, don’t you think so?
As a muslim, I have forseen nothing wrong with the forum : can let the non-muslim know how so beautiful, so fair and so good Islam is : as it conducted by a person in authority and in these case the exception applies, for all wrong or injustice must be corrected openly to prevent its recurrence and in order to help someone who has been wronged or in the state of deniable for their rights. But I would like to suggest that the forum would also include a public complaint by a person who has suffered a wrong as he/she has every right to seek public redress.
Mr. Anba, do you agreed that BC actually tried to break the ice but they dont realised that they have been skating on the thin ice which actually is the tip of the iceberg? I go in peace with my humble thought.
May God bless Tun and you.
Mrs. Fischer
Hi Anba,
Thank you for you comments. However I would like to stress that I do not really agree with you on issue of ” freedom to equally enjoy the benefits thats currently only enjoyed by the Malays ”
This will be in a way going against the FEDERAL CONSTITUITION and MALAY’S RIGHT & PRIVELEGES which was agreed upon when we get our MERDEKA. However, our interest as minority group should also be protected as stipulated in the CONSTITUITION.
Hi there, justmy2SEN
I liked it when you wrote the following especially the last line :
“BTW I don’t condone the harsh words used by the demonstrator although it warms my heart to see my fellow muslims united…hardh words and calling others’ name is certainly not islamic teaching as chinese, indians, malays are all Allah’s creation…”
Hope that everyone of us believe that we are indeed GOD’s creation no matter how you like to associate with GOD.
Dear emma49
What you have said is true. I agree that Samy Velu is the biggest culpit of all. But while many Indians in urban areas might agree with this, majority of them who are in estates and rural areas are not aware of this.
This is why Hindraf acted the way they did last year (I again would like to repeat I do not condone the demonstration). It was to show their anger. And you can also see the result in the March 08 General Election where MIC was in a way totally wiped out. Even after this, Samy Velu has no shame in declaring that the Indian community needs him more than before.
While Samy Velu is at fault, but could it be that he is not allowed to fight for the Indians rights (except for him and his clan). If you remember, Sothinathan was suspended for highlighting the issue of de-recognising the Medical Degrees from countries of the former Soviet Union.
Devamani, MP for cameron Highlands was also cautioned for his remarks following the Hindraf case. So, may be all the leaders out there are unable to do anything if they are in the government. They need to be ” YES ” man or else they will be reprimanded.
But don’t you think that the sudden rise in the non-Malays recent sentiments could also be partly due to recent trends in the speeches and conduct of Malay Leaders (some of them) stressing on “KETUANAN MELAYU”.
Dear Malaysian Indian
The coalition between BN-MIC-MCA are so that each party can take care of their own race,according to their need & like. The Malays will never know best about the indian as much as the indian itself. My indian fren once said that ” “Samy Vellu” have done nothing for the Indian…” && also an indian pakcik once have also said (over a morning teh tarik) that ” the reason we dont vote for BN is because we want to get rid of Sammy vellu… coz bla bla bla ” To me this is very2 serious as Samy Vellu have been in power for almost 27 years and still hanging as MIC president.. and the indian themselves do nothing about this. NOW is it still umno or MIC fault? im not blaming you guys, but when to think of it, what have done by MIC for almost 27 years in power?? MIC is for the INDIAN and LEAD by the INDIAN?? care to share??
A’kum Tun & pembaca2 blog,
Saya kurang bersetuju dengan tindakan kementerian pelajaran yang tidak mengambil tindakan tegas didalam isu “seorang guru di kuala langat yang mengeluarkan kata2 berbaur perkauman” kepada anak2 murid pada 18-Jul-2208.
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/21/nation/22133694&sec=nation
Pegawai kerajaan mestilah peka didalam isu2 sensitif untuk setiap kaum. Jikalau masih tidak peka, kerajaan mestilah bertindak tegas dan pantas. Ada 2 alternatif samada memecatnya atau pendakwaan. Pemindahan pegawai sahaja adalah tidak masuk akal.
Regards,
http://www.my-security-at-home.com
Anba wrote:
“It is this discontent that will one day give us the freedom to equally enjoy the benefits thats currently only enjoyed by the Malays ( the selected Malays)”
Anba, apa lagi yang kamu mahu?Tidak ada satupun negara dalam dunia yang memberikan kerakyatan kepada imigran seperti negara kita. Oleh itu hormatilah perjanjian yang dibuat oleh orang-orang yang terdahulu daripada kita. Jikalau dulu, demi mendapat kerakyatan, sanggup setuju dengan hak istimewa orang Melayu, kini baru hanya 50 tahun merdeka sudah hendak membelakangkan perjanjian yang dibuat.
Dalam pembangunan bangsa dan negara, 50 tahun bukanlah masa yang panjang. Kita dijajah lebih kurang 400 tahun, adakah dalam 50 tahun ini nasib bangsa Melayu yang dijajah sekian lama sudah berubah sama sekali? Sekiranya tiada hak istimewa Melayu, bangsa Melayu pastinya tidak boleh bangun daripada penindasan akibat penjajahan. Sekiranya kontrak, biasiswa dan kemasukan ke universiti diberikan dengan “sama rata” dan “adil”, orang Melayu pastinya akan lebih jauh ketinggalan. Adalah mustahil dalam masa 50 tahun sahaja, bangsa Melayu sudah boleh lepas daripada kesan penjajahan. Ekonomi pastinya dikuasai oleh minoriti seperti yang kita lihat di negara-negara jiran. Adakah ini akan membawa kestabilan seperti yang kita telah nikmati sekian lama?
Dearie Malaysian Indian
As I’ve said, I know many of my non malay frends are moderate people who never questions malay rights and so I’m grateful to them for that…I’ve never have issues with these people..
and how on earth having a forum dicussing the existence of social contract NOT questioning MALAY RiGHTs? …and also please go to non-malay dominated forum where they openly talk about eliminating NEP and article 153…and you can see where my sentiment from…
FYI it was the idea Malaysian Malaysia which makes me voted for a change…but as i see things progress…i went to non malay blogs and look at their thinking and wants…how some of them would even go to the extent of putting the flag upside down (malay did this too..)..i started questionning the idealism behind Malaysian Malaysia and find it is similar to the history of Formation of Singapore….you see how Malays become history down there?..it is the same modus operandi…you know why Malays are so cautious this time…it’s because we learnt from history…
Dear askmehow
I don’t normally comment other peoples’ writing without being commented first but i can’t help it since you brought up 13 May..It takes 2 to TANGO so we learn from it and try to avoid it…you see what happen just few years back in Indonesia where they kill chinese?..please study the causes and effects and then you would know why Article 153/NEP is still relevant..
Have you ever seen Malays the one who started to stir things up?…NO..we are just reacting/making our stand to people who trying to stir things up…If we want we can use a lot of topics to have forum, petition, memorandum etc but we do not do that..I personally asked question to myself why give the citizenship to others but i never attempt to have a forum questionning that as it’s a decision made by leaders back then or even talk about it with my non malay frends..we Malays are accomodative and generous..if that can’t earn respect from you lot, i really don’t know what will (maybe you want us to succumb to everything etc…..or we become like Malay Singapore then only you shower us with respectssssssssssssss)
BTW I don’t condone the harsh words used by the demonstrator although it warms my heart to see my fellow muslims united…hardh words and calling others’ name is certainly not islamic teaching as chinese, indians, malays are all Allah’s creation…
Salam Tun.
Salah siapa yang Bar Council begitu berani bertindak sedemikian? Salah dasar-dasar liberal yang didalangi oleh menteri yang berkenaan.
Umum ketahui bahawa ahli2 Bar Council rata2 dari keturunan sesuatu kaum dan kaum itulah yang nampaknya bermaharajalela yang membawa kepada forum2 seumpama itu.
Sekarang yang hanya boleh membendung aktiviti Bar Council ini adalah orang2 Melayu yang rata2 berugama Islam. Satu forum mengutuk Bar Council perlu di adakan sebagai langkah pertama menghantar mesej jelas kepada Bar Council bahawa mereka tak boleh bertindak sesuka hati mereka.
We don’t dispute the fact that the majority is always regarded as the ‘big brother’ but to earn respect and honour, the ‘big brother’
MUST display fine examples for the younger brothers to follow suit.
I’m one of the lucky ones who narrowly survived the 1969 incident
and I would certainly not looking forward to another one ! It really haunt me until now ! Such an expensive lesson must be learned and remembered by every living rakyat for a better tomorrow
together. However it is only possible if our society is civilized enough after four decades of lessons !
sometimes it is easy to talk then doing it….
Reply to Malaysian Indian:
Dear Malaysian Indian,
Hi there. I like your reply to emma. You have given very good facts to explain the condition of Indians and the minorities at large. Let’s hope that many other minorities are as unhappy as we are. It is this discontent that will one day give us the freedom to equally enjoy the benefits thats currently only enjoyed by the Malays ( the selected Malays).
God bless your concerns.
Anba
Reply to Samuraimelayu:
Samuraimelayu,
Hi there. Looks like you are not a worthy person to have an intellectual conversation. I don’t blame the way your write, like a half baked person. Malays like you give a bad name to clever Malays like Dr.Mahathir. Dr.Mahathir, is this the result of giving more chances for the Malays to enter the local universities?
Samuraimelayu, here is a joke. Perhaps you should stick to keris and don’t fool around with a samurai, because you don’t have the integrity or bravery to hold a samurai. Just a joke.
Until then, God bless.
Anba
To emma49,
of course if you do such kind of survey, you will find majority of the scholraship given out by the private sector (MNC’s) goes to non-Malays. You know why ? Because almost all Malays are given scholarship by either the Government or Malaysian GLC’s such as Petronas, Proton, MAS, UEM, Maybank, Bank Negara etc.
Do you think there will be any actual oficial data to be released by the Government. All the data’s are doctored to fool the public. If you care to remember, last year one Chinese director in a Government linked company was forced to resign for issuing data to show that Malays has actually already exceeded the expectation of NEP.
Still the Gevernment insist that NEP must go on and other races are deprived of opportunities forcing them to look to private sector which has limited availability.
You can look at dividend given out for ASB or Tabung Haji (only for Malays) where every year they can afford higher dividend compared to EPF which is for all Malaysian. Why is it so ?
If we are to argue on this basis, there will be never ending arguments. One thing for sure is please wake up to face reality.
I am not saying that I am unhappy with what I am getting by being a Malaysian. But looking at some of the articles, I think as the minority group, I also need to voice our concern.
This is what happen to Hindraf. Even though I do not condone the way they demonstated but some of the issues need to be given due consideration. Not all of the issues highlighted by them are correct but when you look at many Indians, the progress for the community has been very slow.
You might say many Indians are successful (I might be one of them)but when you look at the percentage, it is only declining. Look at the numbers in Public Universities. To ensure good education, many non-Malays have to turn to private instituition or overseas. What happen then, the parents has to sacrifice whatever money or wealth they have for the sake of their children. This cycle continues when the children has their own family and children and due to this, the community can never progress further.
to Malaysian Indian && the gang…
just wanna quote..
” If there is still doubt then do a survey of all the contracts and scholarships given by the private sector and work out how much they have contributed toward eliminating disparities between races, and who would be the poor in this country.”
…. from NEP & cronyism article by tun Chedet….
Why dont you conduct such survey && share it with all fellow Malaysian. MAYBE from your survey we can tell who`s racist or not!!!
Dear justmy2SEN
For your information, I do not see anyone questioning The malay rights. Even the UiTM issue, it was a non issue to non-Malays all along until Selangor MB suggested it (Maybe for political reason). Do you see many non-Malays supporting it. Not many, still it is suggestion. Let the goverment or the politicians decide.
After reading so many articles and writing in this blog. I can only conclude that all of us are dissatisfied with so many things but we are in a way afraid to let it out fearing that it is sensitive. We will not achieve much if we keep on like this.
I have stressed many times majority of non-Malays are not questioning the FEDERAL CONSTITUITION or MALAY RIGHTS. Even the Bar Council’s forum is on the issues affecting the converts and their families, it is not about ISLAM being the official religion.
I had to stop reading this entry on your blog. It is the most offensive entry you have made so far. The language and content is deplorable for a man of you standing. In general life, we do accept that old people are usually bigotted and politely we say “set in their ways”.
The fact that you deem it necessary to spread you ridiculous opinions (condoms on the church steps? / the offensive word for African Americans I can’t BELIEVE you would even write that) only holds Malaysia back. Many of the Rakyat have their opinions formed by the media, you should think careful and practice self censorship on your own out dated beliefs.
Response to Ir. Syahrizan posted on August 20, 2008 12:31 PM
Your comments seems to be nothing but racist in nature. You have mentioned that “They wanted more and more, greed starts to consumed them, respect is no more, we try to give as much as possible up to an extent they even questioned the reliability of Islam and Bumiputera rights?”
Please explained what more have you given. As far as I can recollect, more and more are given to the Bumis. Non-Bumis are experiencing less and less opportunities. All goverment contracts are given to Bumi companies. SME loans with low interest are only applicable for Bumis only.
There were many times we have read in the papers non-bumi students with excellent result failed to gain entry into public universities (until intervened by the political parties) whereas Bumi students with lesser qualification gained entry with scholarship.
Please remember, all our forefathars has fought for independence together. We all strived together in making what Malaysia is today. No one race can take credit for making this country great. It belongs to all the races.
If you read through all the postings, non of it questioned the reliability of Islam or Bumiputra rights. Non-Bumis are only asking for equal opportunities in education and economic activities.
To all visitors of all races, all of us will not gain by inciting hatred within us. We should work together to achieve greater success.
Dearie Raja Kris
which part of my comment is harsh….maybe this is a classic case of ‘siapa makan cili dia terasa pedas’. If you terasa I humbly apologised but i was despise that when i copy-paste a beautiful speech by Tun Sambathan, people don’t even bother to read it properly to understand the sacrifices and generousity of malays and humility of non malays at that time
BTW, i was schooled in Subang Jaya and majority of my frends are non malays and I totally have no problem with them as i know they are very moderate non malays who tak kacau org lain..don’t simpy babble on other’s religion but asked nicely if curious….
But what i see now is the greediness/aggrasiveness of non malays to question everything and trying to take what’s rightful for Malays without giving anything in return. I also hate it when people talk about Bangsa Malaysia without knowing what should constitute bangsa Malaysia..what they see is bangsa malaysia is equal opportunity for all…without trying to understand the history of what makes Malaysia as it is now…
Dearie Malaysian Indian
You know why suddenly non malays, bar council or even some so-called liberal malays are questionning social contract, memeluk islam forum, Uitm?..it may be suggestion but it is actually done to test the reaction of Malays/muslims….let’s see if malays just sit back and be nice and smiley about it..can you guarantee us that the suggestions will just be a suggestion?..
it’s typical in Malaysia…when malay stands on his/her right, he/she will be called RACIST but when non malay can talk one sided story about islam/malay and they call it FREEDOM OF SPEECH…RENUNG RENUNGKANLAH
Salam hormat YAB Tun,
I notice that since 2003 when Tun chose to retire from active politic, the issues that were considered sensitive all this while began to be raised by certain sections of the community. The advent of the blogging culture opened up the floodgate to the pendominium of unchecked racial slurs and condemnation with full gusto, with Malaysiakini and Malaysia today leading the pack. The responses from the offended parties were no less slanderous and demeaning when they entered the fray.
Once people, especially from the younger generation choose, to throw caution to the wind in commenting on other races the resultant backlash will not be less catastropic. Then came the Hindraf episode and that section of the community became more blatant in both action and words. If this sort of confrontation continue to go unchecked then we are heading for another racial disturbance in much shorter time than expected.
It is best that such sensitive issues related to race and religion be discussed in closed doors and with more restrain for the sake of peace and stability in this country. Freedom of speech is to be exercised with guarded responsibilty and wisdom. Don’t let this privilage lead us to chaos and anarchy for which we will all regret later!
Asalamualaikum and Hello,
Most of the time I will try to be ‘sensitive’ with the people of mix race and religion around me. Trying to grasp the peace and harmony we’ve been enjoying for the past 50 years, while, in the same time learning on how to give and take with the people around me. Unfortunately, this time they’ve tried to crawl into my territory. They wanted more and more, greed starts to consumed them, respect is no more, we try to give as much as possible up to an extent they even questioned the reliability of Islam and Bumiputera rights? Dear Malaysian Bar Council (which is equivalent to the racist Hindraf and one-sided-racist-biased Singapore). Keep on pushing us Muslims, we will be forced upon to accept PAS. When that happens, the dream of uniting the Malay Muslims 100% will become true enough. We will set-up a full-fledge Islam Ruling in Malaysia very soon. So, if I were you, I’ll give careful rethinking of every words ushered from your ugly mouth. 🙂
PS: I’m still waiting for miracle.
Millionaire
I could give you seven but you’ve asked for only one, so here’s your one proposal. And it’s a basic one. Education – abolish national type schools over a period of time, and interate all schooling into a Single Govenment endorsed programme.
I know this has been said time and again and there are a number of arguments, both for and against. However in my view, to achieve a true integrated Malaysia, you have to look at the foundation of all integration, SCHOOLING!
People in Malaysia don’t like change (as with most of the world), but over time, they will understand the rationale for this change is motivated by ensuring all Malaysians, all walks of life get the same education offering.
And, for your information, I schooled in Public Schooling system in Malaysia all my life (including my Uni). My English is far from perfect (thanks for your patronising comments), and my math is scary if that is your next comment/question.
At no time I expected a handout. At no time I contemplated private education. At all times, I worked hard at achieving a high standard of work and work ethics, recognising I was in the minority group (so to speak). I had to put 120% effort to get my 80% outcome. And sir/madam, I grew up in the melting pot where Malaysians of all races reside – Bangsar. They don’t come any more mixed-bag than that place. So please don’t let fly judgemental comments as in your opener.
All I asked TDM was what did he effectively do to help in the integration of Malaysians other than just keep talking about it? And don’t pull all those Merdeka celebrations of the past as examples. In my view, they were pure rhetorics!
TDM, I’d still like to hear your counter comments, unless you’re only interested in responding to Bar Council, and not a fellow citizen of our great nation.
-Ravi
Dear justmy2SEN (on August 19, 2008 12:50 PM)
My comments were meant for ixora (wrote on August 15, 2008 4:45) but accidentally posted to you. Sorry for it. I am surprised at the harshness of your comments anyway.
With regards to the Tun Sambanthan,s speech, it is not surprising. The situation at time was mutual, cordial and brotherly. But now the situation is different. Even Tun Sambanthan would not have repeated his speach now. I am sure of it.
Why not friend, bring back the mood of 1957? Let us be mutual, cordial and brotherly. We have everythig to gain and nothing to loose anyway..
Dear ixora (wrote on August 15, 2008 4:45)
When you compare certain issues in this country, please do not compare to the countries of any citizens’ origin, my friend.. or worst still, please do not compare to a country like Burnma etc where law and order do not exist.. We are in a democratic country with people of Malaysian origin. Please grow up and only focus on every citizen’s right in a democratic, peace loving country. How will you feel when I compare the Malays to the country of their origin. I WILL not do that. As I said PLEASE GROW UP and purely think of the Malaysian Issues and ways of obtaining a solution.
Reply to millionaire:
Hey Machan,
Are you one of the instant made millionaire by means of being a Ali Baba?
When you do NOT want to compare to the better system, you will never improve!
The ‘multi national ethnic layers of peace and prosperity’ that you mentioned is a myth and have died many years ago. Perhaps, if you are a Malay and an ardent UMNO supporter, you can continue to blind the rakyat’s minds by saying that we live in muhibbah and in harmony. It’s time the no-Malays realize that those ‘muhibah’ remarks is ust to fish their votes and is full of BS!
I have one solution on behalf of Arunachalam, a sensible Prime Minister will abolish the NEP and the quota and all other privileges given to the Malays and let everyone compete in a ust world!
God bless.
Anba
Reply to Mrs. Fisher:
Thanks for the surah. It’s not clear in that ayat what is the cause of action if a Muslim marries a non-Muslim. Have you ever lived in a contry where the population is only made of Muslims?
Please cme down to earth and stop living on air…where one lives with people of another religion and marriage among people of different religion is NOT a myth!
God bless.
Anba
DEAR ARUNACHALAM OR RAVI,
Your english is good did you have to travel far and wide to learn this language or was it in town or whereever and there must only indian community type of place where you grew up that you so concerned about integration and muhibah and you blame TUN.
Give me one solution that you would have implemented if you were the prime minister of malaysia.just one.with regards of multi ratial ethnic.NOW.
To Malaysian indian,
How are you going to handle the issue that the malaysian telugu brought about regarding telugu lenguage in tamil school and their 1% of demands to their comunity and wait why are the malayalees so quiet or maybe they have this wait and see than we demand concept and next who?
the tamil community so called against any other language to be brought in our tamil school even though they are our brothers and yet you want to teach other race to be open to us.aint that funny TUN.
Dear ANBA,
Malaysia is not your regular country you see outside your shell and compare them which is still i consider yours if you know what i mean.Just see when we remove the subsidising of fuel what happened unless youre filthy rich.this country will be distroyed if we bring a comparision to another devoloped country that not tailored to our multi national ethnic layers of peace and prosperity.
comprande anne.
By samuraimelayu on August 19, 2008 12:02 PM
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Izinkan,
By Anba on August 19, 2008 8:15 AM
Reply to ‘autaman’:
Dear Autaman,
Hi there. Could you explain to me why the sensitive issues can’t be discussed in an open forum? What are you afraid about? Are you afraid that people will realize the truth and thats why you want to discuss the sensitive issues i a ‘hush-hush’ manner in a way to keep everyone in the dark?
ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE TO DRILL INTO THIS ‘DUMB’ WARDED ‘GUDUMBUK’ THATâS NOT WHAT WE ARE AFRAID OF. HOW CUD WE? WHEN THIS IS OUR FATHERSâ LAND (although we must admit the roads were built by his ‘father’ and ‘mother’)
PLEASE READ THE CAUTION REMARKS WE POSTED IN OUR COMMENTS TO YOU ON 18TH@ 11.56PM.
HOWEVER, WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR BRAVERY. PLEASE ENLIST, THE ARMY NEEDS YOU AND PERHAPS CUD SENT YOU TO SOME ‘TROUBLED’ AFRICAN NATIONS WHERE APPARENTLY SOME RICH CITIZENS OF INDIAN DESCENT HAVE BEEN LIVING IN FEAR OF THEIR LIVES AND PROPERTIES.
YOU CUD JOIN THEM OR BE A PEACE LOVING RAKYAT OF MALAYSIA.
STOP ALL YOUR PROVOCATIONS OR YOU MAY END UP PAYING A ‘HEAVY PRICE’!
LIVE AND LET’S ENJOY THE PEACE AND POSPERITY LIKE THE WONDERFUL YEARS OF AYAHANDA TUN’S ERA.
MAY GOD BLESS THE RAKYAT ALWAYS.
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Izinkan,
2nd Edition.
By Anba on August 19, 2008 8:11 AM
Reply to ’emma49′:
We nearly ‘lost’ our patience with this ‘gudumbuk’ if not for the ‘sabar’ serum prescibed by Ayahanda Dr. Tun
Emma also happened to be our ‘princess’ name who is currently doing her Masters in Architecture in UK and we don’t need your uncalled remarks although our family have never enjoyed the Malay rights you are complaining of. Dei tambi, we shud be the ones complaining lah!
Apparently, having you quarantined in the Ward ABI has failed to cure you of the dreaded ‘Aggravated Brain Injuries’ disease. You gave the ‘head shrinkers’ no choice but to transfer you to the ‘Deranged, Useless and Mental Blocked’ (DUMB) Ward sponsored by..you guessed right again(Always Accomodating Blockedhead). If the treatments therafter failed,then all the Anakanda Rakyat of Chedet.com will have no choice but to sent you to the DUMP.
Even the Almighty may not be able to save your mind and soul then.
We would however beg to the Almighty to give you another chance coz afterall you are merely human with many weaknesses.
Chorused by the Lone Ranger when you are finally dumped. ‘ To the dump, to the dump, to the dump, dump, dump..’
Sounds familiar?
Excuse me Tun,
By Anba;
Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim. I am not a Muslim scholar, but I am a tolerant human being who believes that every major religion is a love and peace abiding religion but the human beings who twist and turn the facts from the scriptures to suit their own needs.
Maybe this is what are you looking for?
The Holy Quran
In the name of God,
Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Surah 2 – Al Baqarah
221 Do not marry unbeiliving woman (idolaters), until they believe: a slave woman is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: a man slave who believes is better than unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: that they may celebrate His praise.
Thank you.
Mrs. Fischer
My Dear TDM
The word is..ACCEPTANCE.
All Malaysians must learn to truly accept one another, their virtues, their lifestyle and their respect and understanding of the individual cultures and traditions..only then, can we see the real daylight..as a proud nation. Had our present government been effective in any way in their cause, these topics and events would not have surfaced.
Unhappy rakyat makes an unhappy nation. God Bless
justmy2SEN on August 19, 2008 7:50 AM
You have commented the non – Malays nowadays ? Nak describe pun susah.
But do you know that we have the same feelings towards the Malays. Tun Sambanthan gave his speech in 1955. At that time the Malays were different too.
Even when I was kid, I can freely mingle with Malays, we were free to discuss anything, even religion to some extend. But now, it is so difficult. Everything has become sensitive issue. You might say you are tolerant but actually it is opposite.
You can only say you are tolerant if you listen to others views, discuss it, explain your side of story and take appropriate remedial action. But do you do that. Look around us, even when Selangor MB suggested to have a 10% quota at UiTM, there was alot of huh ha created by who ? MALAYS. There was even demonstation and threatened to be sued.
It was only a suggestion. Why not just ponder over the idea. Look at Pros and Cons and then decide YES or NO. Do you see any of the other races creating any “noise” except Malays. Anyway how many will be 10%.
We do not want to disintegrate the society. We are in a multiracial society. Things need to be discussed. It is true MALAYS RIGHT AND PRIVELEGES were agreed and the FEDERAL CONSTITUITION was created long time ago. But time has changed, so do people. Many of the non-bumis rights too were seen to be slipping away from our grasps. That’s why there are issues that need to be highlighted.
Do not sees this as questioning your right. Most of the non-bumis do not want to reduce or take away Bumis rights. We just want our rights to be protected too. We also have children who will live here for many years to come and they need to be happy too.
Please be open minded and discuss. What is wrong if I ask you certain question that touches on culture or religion. This way we can learn and have more understanding on each others culture and values. Remember learning is a continuous process.
Dear TDM
I understand clearly how it was when you were a PM. Itâs very different looking downwards from the chair, when one is sitting above everyone else. From there, one can only see all sorts of head…black, white, bald and some colorful ones. True collaboration and racial cooperation is not that easy and simple with multi racial ethnic populations. For one, a need to respect individual religion and their beliefs. Two, we are a matured population with a different mindset. It takes time, patient and lots of respect for one another before we can even reach that far. So, itâs rather difficult to integrate all those heads together. Itâs not integration or segregation we should be overly concerned about. Look at Indonesia for example. They are an integrated country..even in their name. But she has got a poor history in harmony. It will do us all good to learn from the Animal Kingdom on how to live together harmoniously and respectfully, giving space to one another, on the very same land they walk and live on. Syabas. God Bless you TDM.
Tun Dr. Mahathir,
Pada penghujung bulan Ogos ini, Negara Malaysia akan menyambut hari kemerdekaannya. Manakala pada 16 hari yang berikutnya dalam bulan September, Persekutuan Malaysia akan menyambut hari pergabungannya dengan Sabah dan Sarawak.
Ironinya, walaupun sudah 50 tahun Negara ini mengecapi kemerdekaannya tetapi isu-isu keagaamaan yang bersangkut paut dengan hak-hak penganutnya masih lagi perlu dibincangkan secara tertutup sebagaimananya yang disarankan oleh Tun.
Forum âConversion to Islamâ yang ditentang sekeras-kerasnya oleh Tun, walaupun pada asasnya, forum tersebut sepatutnya menjadi wacana bernas antara law practitioners Islam serta yang bukan Islam untuk menjelaskan kepada para audiennya mengenai struktur perundangan Sivil serta perundangan syariah di Negara Malaysia.
Malahan saya turut ketahui, forum tersebut akan menbincangkan âgrey-areaâ serta âloopâ yang seringkali berlaku apabila sesebuah kes perbicaraan yang terpaksa menbabitkan kedua-dua fungsi mahkamah iaitu mahkamah tinggi serta mahkamah syariah.
Saya bersetuju apabila Tun menganggap Malaysian Bar Council angkuh serta insensitive dengan pendirian keras untuk meneruskan Forum tersebut tetapi mereka melakukannya atas nama social responsibility dan juga pendidikan.
Secara jujur, Forum tersebut jikalau diteruskan seperti sedia-kalanya, yang akan mendapat maafaat adalah orang Islam sendiri kerana Forum itu akan menjelaskan dengan sendirinya hak-hak orang yang memeluk Islam serta cara-cara penyelesaian sesebuah kes yang menbabitkan individu yang ingin keluar daripada Islam secara tuntas!
Malangnya, Tun serta individu-individu tertentu masih beranggapan bahawa hak majority penganut Islam di Negara ini akan terancam apabila yang bukan Islam cuba untuk melangkahi sempadan yang ditetapkan oleh Tun serta individu-individu tertentu itu.
Lebih teruk lagi, Tun masih beranggapan penganut-penganut Islam Malaysia belum matang untuk menerima pembaharuan minda demi kebaikan mereka sendiri.
Sejak bila pemikiran seseorang umat itu ataupun sesebuah Ummah tersebut perlu ditentukan oleh seorang individu? Bukankah Islam itu sebuah agama yang menggalakkan pembaharuan demi kebaikan Ummahnya!
Sekarang saya juga ingin menanyakan tujuan Tun membabitkan peranan gereja di dalam penulisan Tun?
Adakah Tun menganggap umat Kristian di Malaysia ini sebagai Ancaman terhadap umat Islam?
Jika begitu tanggapan Tun, maka Tun sendiri umpama menanam racun ke dalam pemikiran pembaca blog Tun! Ataupun Tun sendiri tidak tahu langsung tentang perkembangan sosio-politik negara-negara yang mengamalkan sistem secular serta konsep Negara/Kerajaan Kristian (Holy Kingdom)!
Untuk pengetahuan Tun, âfree speechâ dan âfree thoughtâ bukan elemen-elemen Kristian. Kedua-dua elemen tersebut berasal daripada Fahaman Liberalisme dalam cabang Demokrasi Sekular.
Pemimpin-Pemimpin Kristian sedar akan bahaya Fahaman Liberalisme terhadap dogma agama dan mereka cuba untuk memberitahu penganut-penganut Kristian agar berwaspada dengan elemen-elemen yang mampu mengaburi pemikiran mereka, sebagai contohnya, Pope Pius IX telah mengemukakan âSyllabus of Errorsâ(1864) yang menolak materialisme, pemikiran/falsafah bebas serta âindifferenceâ. Malangnya âSyllabus of Errorsâ dikecam hebat kerana pihak pengkritik secular yang beranggapan Doktrin tersebut adalah penghalang kepada anjakan paradigm atau pembanguanan ketamadunan.
Berkenaan dengan kondom yang ditemui di pintu Gereja, ianya tidak lebih kepada perbuatan vandalisme ataupun lebih tepat lagi âRetaliationâ terhadap pihak Gereja yang dilihat sebagai simbol atau relic sosio-budaya yang ketinggalan zaman yang tidak diperlukan lagi oleh generasi baru kini yang lebih meminati budaya hedonism!
Melakukan hubungan seks di dalam public space itu adalah budaya hedonism. Setahu saya, segelintir besar pemuda-pemudi Melayu sudah pun terpengaruh dengan budaya ini akibat daripada kurangnya pemantauan Ibubapa serta kurangnya didikan agama dan kurangnya kekuatan minda untuk menolak godaan tersebut. Period!
Bagi umat Islam yang sering menyatakan sumber kejahatan yang wujud terhadap umat Islam adalah berasal daripada Kerajaan Kristian, saya rasa anda adalah makhluk yang jahil serta bodoh kerana dalam kontek pemikiran umat Kristian, Kerajaan Kristian itu adalah Syurga!
Jika anda ingin pergi ke sana, anda mesti mati terlebih dahulu!
Xxx Cheer! â Tun, saya bukan antara individu yang melawan Tun, saya adalah antara peminat Tun dari Sarawak! Unfortunately, as you grow older, Tun bukan menjadi orang yang âwiser âsebaliknya Tun seperti mahu semuanya mengikut telunjuk Tun!
TDM
is it not correct to state that for any sensitivities to remain, it’s largely due to the segregation that is practised. While you may state there is no segregation in Malaysia and every Malaysian is provided equal rights – the fact remains the former Government under your leadership has not done much to bridge the gaps of the “purpoted” Malaysian society.
So, while you’re critical of the Bar Council and give all these strong arguments in support of your sentiments, you need to ask yourself if you practised discrimination of any sort, and what you did to make Malaysia Harmonious.
Everytime any tensions arose, you used methods to deter the tension, but not look at root cause and address the concerns of the multiracial society.
Under your Governance and leadership, why did you not look at establishing and promoting true collaboration and racial cooperation. All throughout your time, you only used scare tactics instead of truly encouraging the muhibbah you preached.
There were terms used like Minority Malaysians under your administration – why did you not change the mindset that no Malaysian is a minority. We are all Malaysians be it whatever caste, creed or religion we belong to.
So why did you not set out a plan to have a truly integrated Malaysia and work on programmes that will involve collaboration – not segragation.
Why do we in the 21st Century need to have a Pro-Malay, Chinese and Indian party and use the word “coalition” just as lip-service, when we should look at truly uniting?
I’d like to hear your counter thoughts on the above comments sir?
-Ravi
SALAM TUN….
saya sebagai rakyat malaysia amat sedih dengan keaadan negara sekarang.Kebebasan bersuara telah disalah guna tanpa menilai apa implikasinya kemudian hari…Rakyat memang berhak bersuara tetapi perlu mengikut landasan yang betul supaya tidak menyentuh sensitiviti pihak lain.
tun..dulu saya fikir tun terlalu tegas,tetapi sekarang saya sedar ketegasan itu perlu dan wajar.Kepimpinan sekarang terlalu lembut dan kurang memperjuangkan orang melayu sehingga bangsa lain seakan -akan mahu memijak orang melayu di tanah melayu sendiri.
waktu ini Pm sepatutnya campur tangan tetapi apa yang saya lihat beliau seolah tidak memandang secara serius perkara ini.
tun…
sekarang terlau banyak perkara yang kacau bilau…tolonglah buat sesuatu agar BN dan negara tetap utuh seperti dahulu.Amin…..
In reference to anakmalaysia said:
“Dear Ayahanda Tun
I’m laughing by the time I finished reading the article. You sure have a way of saying things. I do agree with you 100%. But I do hope that we have a way of making these people really understand what is sensitive meant. I don’t think they understand enough that’s why they always want to create havoc in Malaysia. Can we sent these people back from where there really come from?????”
Don’t you think sending people back from where they come from is being INSENSITIVE to others. My thoughts exactly…cheers
My Dear TDM
I SALUTE YOU.
You have said it all that need to be said..in full clarity.
You are so very right. I must admit our âlegal eaglesâ in this country are trying to emulate those westerns..being arrogant and insensitive. In one hand they are crying out for justice and democracy, and in the other hand they are insensitive towards one another. Have they really forgotten we are living in a multi racial ethnic country? No matter how lawfully qualified they might be, behaving like westerners does not mean they are WHITE. Brown will still be Brown. Just take a case in scenario..look at China..they are so enriched in their cultures and traditions..they are a proud nation. We should learn to uphold our values and treasure the very same in our own country. Learn from the learnedâ¦our wise one TDM.
Dear Tun,
This is the first time i’m commenting on your blog, I have been waiting quite some time to do that. I am so disgusted the way our malaysian political system works and many people blame you as the main culprit for the flaws in our judiciary system.
I am a fan of X-Files, Skinner usually cover up a lot of things done by the government for the peace and stability of the country. Agent Fox Mulder will be the hero to find out the truth (goverment cover-ups, alien abductions etc), but as the tagline say THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, eventually Mulder never found the truth and even if he could, he cannot tell the whole world. His sidekick Scully was ever present with him until she got mix in the whole drama. Now the main culprit is not the Ciggarate Smoking Man…it’s the people behind him.
In one way i find that our country is going through this series of X-files (minus the alien part). But the thing that i can’t understand is who is Mulder, Scully, Skinner and Ciggarate Smoking Man in our malaysian X-files drama….
I have a rough idea who is it, I hope Tun could be agent Mulder, but the things people say make me thing that you are the Ciggarate Smoking Man….
But the truth is I like his character, he’s the controling character in the series.
Yet again, THE TRUTH IS STILL OUT THERE….
ixora wrote on August 15, 2008 4:45
“…they want to be more than what they are… I think even in their countries of their own origin they can’t get that much.
I just want to ask, what do you mean by phrase.
To whoever agrees with that statement including bapakucing, believe me, hardwork pays. If you ask me, I will still get what I am suppose to get (this include to all hard working people) no matter wherever I was born. Why ? Because whatever I am getting now is due to hard work and not due to my birth right. Do you think all the people in India and China are poor. The rich population in these countries are much larger than the entire population of Malaysia.
How do they do it ? By working hard and not waiting to be spoon fed. I have said this before, don’t ask us to leave because this is my TANAHAIRKU also. I am a moderate person but a lot of posting from the Malays seems to be very provoking. There are postings such as the army being in control by Malays etc.
I do not what is TUN’s agenda when he started this blog but it seems it is inciting racial tension the same way he marginalized the non-Malays during his rule.
Dearie Raja Kris
Should you feel the need to comments other people writing, READ carefully
What u read is an excerpt of speech by Tun Sambathan in 1965…
ps: bodoh boleh di ajar, bodoh sombong pulak macam mana ek?
BERSATU TEGUH BECERAI ROBOH
doaku agar semua orang melayu cam ni
dan untuk yang mengaku Malaysian
peace for all
takut peristiwa berdarah terjadi
p/s By awong on August 17, 2008 4:05 PM
Salam Tun
BAR council harus di buBARkan
Dear Tun,
Saya tak tahu samada perlu balik atau tidak sebagai pengundi untuk pilihanraya kecil. Hati bercampur baur, menyampah, sakit hati, meluat pun ada. tapi terngiang-ngiang kata2 Tun, satu waktu dulu, pertahankan UMNO bukan kerana pemimpin tapi kerana bangsa, agama dan negara.
Walau jauh, namun saya sentiasa menanyakan perkhabaran di kampung bagi melihat perkembangan pilihanraya kecil. Ternyata, sangat panas dengan pergaduhan kecil dimana-mana walau hanya nak pasang bendera parti. Taksub, fanatik pada individu walau tak tau apa2. Apa itu politik dan perjuangan, yang remaja seronok nak bergaduh, yang tua sibuk menjaja cerita, yang cerdik pandai, atas pagar agaknya.
Tapi terdengar jugak di telinga saya, ramai yang tak nak mengundi sebab, menyampah dgn pemimpin sekarang, atas pagar lah tu….
Sangat ramai Tun, pada sapa lagi depa nak sokong…PKR jangan cakaplah, samseng jalanan yang banyak! Kalau setakat madrasah Ustaz Mutalib tu, rata2 orang PAS, tapi nak buat macamana, parti BA, kena sokonglah jugak, walau hati tak setuju.
Semua penakut, main duit, ada duit, baru kerja jalan…Depa ingat kalau diam, orang suka, tapi orang menyampah, depa tak tau.
Juz cant help it out, cuma, harap sangat dapat bukak mata semua, fikirlah elok2. Tapi rasa macam PKR sangat2 relevan di Permatang Pauh……masih ada yang marahkan Pak Lah, nak undi PKR…
HI Anba , a very good day to you.
I am not afraid of anything . In my opinion , not all people are mature enough to handle those sensitive issues in an objective manner. I believe you are wise enough and so do I but I don’t think all the people in public in general are mature enough for these issues to be openly discussed . Their evaluation on an issues will be more guided by their insecurity senses of religious championing rather than a clear concise of mind.Worst still , some will never understand the issues involved and would simply create chaos for the sake of showing ” heroism ” in them.All hell will break loose at that time.
To solve this issues , I still think it’s best to have a close discussion with the people expert in their field in a form of a commitee to list down all issues.Proposal are made and then will be made available to those related religous association to be debated and seeks their opinion.( Not open forum where the general public are involved ).At the end , the committe will colate all those proposal and then decides on the matter based on majority and implement it. At this stage , then only the reason and guideline are laid down and be made public . The objective of any guideline will be explained in detailed to the public. Thus , we as the general public will not be left in the dark . This will solve the issues professionally and avoid any political parties to politicised it and incites any untoward incidence that will jeopordise our county peace and harmony.
Adios,
Autaman.
Reply to ‘samuraimelayu’:
Dear Samuraimelayu,
Looks like you are another ‘bodoh sombong’ like the many of them upholding your birth right.
You have not spoken anything about Islam but you are trying to ask me not to ask questions in regards to Islam? Is Islam such a religion that does not allow ‘dialogue’?
Please wake up if you are still asleep.
God bless.
Anba
Salam Tun,
Sesuatu nasihat yang baik untuk kita dan generasi yang akan datang.
“JANGAN MUSNAHKAN KEMERDEKAAN YANG TELAH KITA BINA SELAMA 51 TAHUN DENGAN SEKELIP MATA”.
Dear justmy2SEN,
When you compare certain issues in this country, please do not compare to the countries of any citizens’origin, my friend.. or worst still, please do not compare to a country like Burnma etc where law and order do not exist.. We are in a democratic country with people of Malaysian origin. Please grow up and only focus on every citizen’s right in a democratic, peace loving country. How will you feel when I compare the Malays to the country of their origin. I WILL not do that. As I said PLEASE GROW UP and purely think of the Malaysian Issues and ways of obtaining a solution.
Tun,
Shukorlah akta itu berkuat kuasa seperti yang di harapkan.
Kalau tidak, tak ada anak2 kita maju dalam pelajaran.
Kita memang pernah muda dan sangat memberontak dalam diri.
Sebagai orang terlebih dahulu saya mahu akta ini maseh di kuat kuasa.
Apa nak jadi anak2 muda kita kalau di benarkam memberontak.
Hati anak2 muda kalau tak di bendung akam membahayakan dirinya,
Maklumlah daya pemikiran mereka maseh mentah, dam berperasaan amarah.
abusayab,
jgnlah dipertikaikan sumpah saiful. cara mana lagi yg harus dia lakukan untuk membuktikan kebenaran? kalau dia cakap di akhbar tentu lagi org takkan percaya? jadi, mgkin itu jalan terakhir bagi dia untuk memberitahu keadaan sebenar…
Reply to ‘autaman’:
Dear Autaman,
Hi there. Could you explain to me why the sensitive issues can’t be discussed in an open forum? What are you afraid about? Are you afraid that people will realize the truth and thats why you want to discuss the sensitive issues i a ‘hush-hush’ manner in a way to keep everyone in the dark?
The government have kept the Malays in the dark by spoon feeding them, it’s time to discuss sensitive issues openly to bring light to those in the dark.
God bless.
Anba
Reply to ’emma49′:
Dear emma49,
Hi there. You said Malays should get 60% ownership, why not apply for 100% ownership and send people of all races away and let the country go to ashes. Dr. Mahathir will be challenged and will be questioned because he is one of the important architecht who designed the ‘ketuanan Melayu’ policies right from the drawing board when he wrote ‘Dilemma Melayu’.
Emma49, why don’t you want to work hard? Is workig hard something bad? Would not hard working produce a race that will withstand the chalenges from other races. You say more Indians and Chinese are going overseas, but do you know how they do it? They work hard, they take loans, and they continue paying the loans for many years after graduating, they enter the foreign universities through merit not by the ‘birth right’ as the Malays are entering the local universities. Don’t be mistaken, I’m not lumping all Malays in this category, but the government has made it very easy for them to get realy lazy.
Emma49, can you come out from the protection given by the government and work hard and be successful?
God bless.
Anba
ixora wrote on August 15, 2008 4:45
“…they want to be more than what they are… I think even in their countries of their own origin they can’t get that much. Kalau betul betul nak Bangsa Malaysia, then there should only be one type of school. I have read about so many Chinese australians who can’t even speak Chinese but they are ok with it and they don’t insist on having Chinese schools there. There are those in Malaysia who are the ones who are not thankful with what they have.”
Saya sangat-sangat setuju. Second generation immigrants di Australia, cakap bahasa Inggeris loghat Australia pekat. Saya haritu pergi potong rambut, ada mamat ni, tak tahu la berapa generasi duduk Malaysia, pergi sekolah Kek Hwa, cakap Melayu saya tak paham. Nak cakap bahasa Inggeris, dia pulak tak faham..pening-pening
Reply to ‘Zap’:
Dear Brother Zap,
Hi there. Thank you for sharing your rukun nikah. Here are my questions:
1. Where can you find this rukun nikah? Is this rukun nikah found in the Quran? If it is found in the Quran, which verse can they be found?
2. Your rukun nikah assumes that the men and women are both Muslims. In your ideal world, everyone may be Muslims. But in reality in any country in this world, there will always be a mix of people of different religions. As such, what happens when a Muslim marries a non-Muslim? Which rukun or which verse in the Quran that explains that the non-Muslim who marries the Muslim MUST convert to Islam? This was my question, not what the rukun was suggesting.
3. When a non-Muslim marries a Muslim in USA or India, they are not required by the law of the country for the non-Muslims to convert. But why is it in Malaysia that the non-Muslims is almost ‘forced’ to convert?
4. What if the Muslim who marries a non-Muslim does not mind that his/her partner remains in their religion? How would the Syariah court look at this matter?
If you are truly a Muslim who wants to set the record straight and give references to the Quran to the questions I have asked, then and only then will I trust that a person who converts to Islam is ding so in accordance to the laws of the religion. I will be loking forward for your reply.
God bless.
Anba
Salam Tun
Bar counsel wanted to be popular by beeing ‘againts the ruler’
We have seen so many satuation that they are championing on all
event that are againts the ruler.
We muslim is hurt by their forum event recently.If they think they can freely hurt other people feelin pls do it outside Malaysia.Be an American or British than, although it’s still hurt but we don’t give a damm.
So Tun,you did something right during your tenure as PM when you
aggressively act on them because this is what happen when people
are to be given too much of freedom.
Law had been gazetted and debate,if you are not happy than be a
politician and raise it inside the parliament.DSAI will do the
same if he too become the PM.Again,sometimes you need to have a little bit of cruelness in you, to become a leader.
Just want to copy-paste this speech (taken from comments in rocky’s bru blog- hope he doesn’t mind) so non malays can see the sacrifices made by malays
UCAPAN PRESIDEN MIC merangkapMENTERI KERJAYA RAYA, POS DAN TELEKOM, TUN V.T. SAMBANTHAN DI DEWAN RAKYAT
âNow, in 1955 we won the elections with a great majority. Then we obtained freedom in two years time. During this period, we had to discuss citizenship and various other things. Now what did the Malays do – since we are speaking on racial lines – what did the Malay leadership do? The had 88 percent of the electorate still with them. What did they do with citizenship?
If we look around in Asia and East Asia, particularly, you will find that my race the indian race, is not welcomed in Ceylon, is not welcomed in Burma. Look at my brother Chinnese race, it is not welcomed in Thailand, in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in all the other areas. What help do they get for citizenship in all these territories? In Burma, as we know, Indian have been send packing, in Ceylon they refused them citizenship and in Burma it is likewise. I know it, you know it. And yet in Malaya what happened? Here we found that the Malay leadership said, âWe shall take them unto ourselves as brothers, we shall give them full opportunity to live in this country, we shall give them every opportunity to become citizens.â And so, in 1957, for the whole year, we waived language qualifications, and tens of thousand of Indians, Chinnese, Ceylonese and others became citizensâ¦
As I said, it has been my great good fortune to have born in this country. Where else can you find a more charitable, a more polite, a more decent race than Malay race? Where else can you get such politically decent treatment for any immigrant race? Where else in the history of the world? I ask you. These are the facts. Who are you to safeguards us? I am 10 percent minority race here. But I am happy here.â
ps: not sure if this is the exact speech but we all know these are what the non malay feels towards malays at that time…grateful and ‘tahu diri’…but the non malays nowadays?…hai nak describe pun beyond words..let their act speak for themselves
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Izinkan,
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Izinkan,
By Siva on August 19, 2008 1:47 AM
Democracy is without limits.With limits, it’s no longer democracy.Freedom is without limits.
Bar Council is not the problem. The politicians are. The Bar has simply raised the issue within the legal aspect and has not violated Islam.
The Muslims are upset but then check again with the learned ones if what Bar Council has done is blasphemy towrds the religion. If not then it’s the people whose mindset has not changed.
Mr. Siva, wannakam sirr, Yenna syolle ayya,
JUST BECAUSE THE PM AAB(ALWAYS ACCOMODATING BONEHEAD) AND HIS ‘LINGAMPOOPS’ MINISTERS HAVE ‘SHIELD’ S.AMBIGA AND THE BAR(ricades) from the toothless Internal Security Act), and the Indian(lawyers) Show of Aggression(ISA new defination) went unpunished, do not mean the Malay/Muslim will not Act if the BAR(uahs) insist on further public debates pertaining the Syariah Laws.
May we asked you whether we have the freedom to sirr you as PAR..AH!
which is a FACT in India to differentiate the various classification of Indian blood ( although it look the same and perhaps taste the same).WHY THIS CASTE SYSTEM IS STILL VERY ALIVE IN THE INDIAN BLOOD ALTHOUGH OUTWARDLY YOU CLAIM TO BE A MALAYSIAN INDIAN? Wud you asked the superior Indian castes to changed their mindset first before asking the malay/muslim to change theirs?
So be thankful that the ‘Malaysian’ chop saved Indian of your kind from that embarrasment.
Perhaps we wud suggest that you join Mr. Anba for a pilgrimage to India for a year’s diploma course to be a ‘Sammi’ and see for yourself whether you’re free to do or say the common phase amongst the Indians ‘Ungge ammak….’ as a ‘Sammi’.
PLEASE DO NOT SHIT TOWARDS THE SKY…THEN YOU WILL GET AAB(Atas (muka) Ada Berak) FOR BEING CHAMPIONS OF SO CALLED TOTAL DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM.
ROMBA SORRY, TAMBI, YOU ASKED FOR IT
WANNAKAM,
POITU WARRAN.
p/s. We wud not mind if both our comments on Anba @ 11.56pm 18th Aug. and the above are not published.
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correction:my third response is based on alex’s comment.
dear hati malaysia:
i thank you for your understanding of how important it is to defend special privilege of malays. but i can not agree with you to agree about what have been suggested by sel MB.first of all you have to understand the main objective of UITM. what the MB saying about to make sure the malays won’t left behind is all rubbish. maybe you do not know the story of this MB before he joined PKR, he is a ultimate fighter for malays’s right and before this he never brought up about this issue.then after he joined the PKR and become a MB, he change his skin and turned up to be a different person. its all politiking strategy, that the easiest way to get support from non-malay.
dear abu sayab:
well i’m not shocked to read your piece. i bet you are one of the PKR followers that extremelly addicted to your leader. you doubt that whether the mousque people also involve in politiking matter? i think you know better than me it is not easy to be an ustaz, there are certain qualification to be one of them. put aside your politiking thing for a momment and think logically would a person that with such a knowledge in islam would do such a thing.my answer is no. if you say yes, thats mean i also can doubt the creadibility of ustaz2 in PKR as they were also learn almost the same thing to be an ustaz.so, whats the different between them, or you might want to say,they are in your party, so they won’t do that?
dear kevin:
i do understand your feeling, but would you understand us as a malays. i admit there are malays which takes it for granted and never try to improved themselves, but the thing is there are also malays thats try so hard to be as good as you. we just needs more times to do that, if you have free time its good if you can read my piece in democracy. you proudly admit that the non-malays is the biggest contributer to malaysia[not sure about that] development, in the other words, malays is the failure one of this country in this meantime. thats happened even we have that special privileged, can you imagine what will happened if we never have that special thing. i bet this country will never have such a great dev[even not dev as japan] because what was happened in 13 mei 1969 will never stop. malaysia, no matter what ethnics will suffer until now.
Democracy is without limits.With limits, it’s no longer democracy.Freedom is without limits.
Bar Council is not the problem. The politicians are. The Bar has simply raised the issue within the legal aspect and has not violated Islam.
The Muslims are upset but then check again with the learned ones if what Bar Council has done is blasphemy towrds the religion. If not then it’s the people whose mindset has not changed.
Thanks to the Politicians, for decades of sheltering ignorance as a means of political survival, creating racial society by seggregation and asking these races to compete among themselves instead of working as a Nation, which lead to jealousy and hatred among each other.
Thank you politicians.Good job
Assalmualaikum Ayahanda Tun,
It has been some time since i last commented on your articles. Mostly because no time to write anything down.
This time i just want to say thank you for writing. Your articles and ideas have sharpened my mind and made me realise and understand a lot of things…..(which is why i rarely missed your speech when you were PM) You inspired me to read more… especially on things that you talk or write about which creates in me a hunger for more knowledge on certain subjects.
Thank you very much.
Please keep writing, even if i don’t post a comment.
Semoga Ayahanda dan Bonda Tun sentiasa berada di dalam keberkatan Allah SWT. Jasamu sentiasa di Kenang….
You’re often in my prayers.
dear sir
the very idea of sensitive is to keep it private
councillors pls take note
thanks
TUN,
kenapa di article AUKU comentarnya di tutup…..
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan
Isteri antimamak
….
TUN,
Sokong AKIM buat sementara waktu, tak akan ubah senario politk, berbanding pilin BN dan PR…
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan.
_ashar_
..
salam tun,
dunia dah akhir zaman…sekarang ni senang je dah raih undi,pakai serban,jubah,memorise apa2 yg patut dr kitab qalammullah…realitinya banyak golongan mengambil kesempatan diatas kelemahan manusia lain.manusia mencari kebenaran tapi tersilap pilih golongan/pemimpin yg ‘musang berbulu ayam’…
sapa lah tu calon parti AKIM (mana datang daa…!)bertanding kat permtg pauh(PP) tuu… tak pernah dengar pon. gaya macam ustaz assahari ,ex cult leader dulu ler.Tujuannya hanya nak pecah undi BN kat permatang pauh.kalau orang PP pangkah dia juga,tak tahu lah aku macam mana pengundi PP berfikir.
saya juga mencari kebenaran di dunia ini tapi saya melihat seseorang dengan mata hati bukan semborono saja.harapan saya biarlah cita2 DSAI& penyokong2 utk bertapak membentuk kerajaan di tanahair berdaulat ini hanya angan2 kosong!
Bosan betul dgn penyokong2 PKR/PAS yg selalu bertindak aggresif ,kemungkinan dr keturunan lanun! Tapi selalu menuduh org lain berkonspirasi dan berbohong pulak. citt! adeee…berapa banyak bagus lah hang sampai selalu saja ada orang berkonspirasi ..? terimalah hakikat yg hang mmg tak boleh jadi pemimpin. saya nasihatkan DSAI berhijrah ke US ,negara yg selalu backing dia dlm apa hal pun.
Asalamualaikum bapa…
AUKU..ceq sgt2 sgt2 sgt2 setuju dgn artikel no 7,8,9,10….
tapi melayu nih selalu nya depa suka guna masa n duit org utk buat aper yg depa suka…masa n duit depa… depa tak akan di gunakan utk saja2…susahnyer melayu(saya pun melayu n sahih ada melayu yg marah nih..tapi nak cakap gak…)hanya minta tolong tanpa mahu menolong..mahu di hormati tidak mahu menghormati…sebagai contoh..ptptn…bukan org lain nephew saya..dia kata naper mesti kena bayar..bagi jer lah…ceq kata..wah2 waaaah…abis zaman korang jer lah yer patut di tolong..zaman anak cucu cicit korang melayu yg susah saper nak tolong..kalo keputusan cemerlang pun yg dapat habuan sepanjang zaman pun korang gak kan…tu lah penin lah kalo melayu asyik fikir diri sendirik jer..politik opis pun ceq tak pandai ni pulak politik politik….biarlah depa tak faham bapak…jgn sedih n putus asa sedarkan diri depa..ceq sentiasa bersama bapak…go2 bapak go…yeaaaaah…cheeeeeeeeers….luv u alwaysZzzzzzzzzzzzzz..hehehee…
Assalamualaikum Yang Berbahagia Tun,
Semoga Allah memberi Tun sekeluarga kesihatan yang baik.
Majlis Peguam ni dah lama wujud. Tapi sejak dua menjak ni saja saya nampak seolah olah dia “bertaring” dan mula “mengaum” dan “memekik”. Saya sendiri kurang faham penyebabnya. Adakah situasi di Malaysia sekarang lebih “demokratik” dan lebih “kondusif” untuk menunjuk taring, mengaum dan memekik.
Dilihat secara mata kasar, situasi yang “lebih demokratik” dan “membenarkan apa saja” dan “bersuara apa saja” di Malaysia sekarang ini hanya mengundang “ketidak-setabilan” dalam banyak aspek.
Yang saya nampak, yang saya dengar dan yang saya rasa …………..
Semua orang berani bersuara ……
Tak kira apa
Tak kira salah atau benar
Tak kira suaranya disukai atau dibenci
Tak kira ianya sensitif atau tidak
Tak kira ianya mengganggu gugat keetabilan Malaysia yang majmuk
Ada yang sudah berani “lawan touke”
Ada yang dah berani tak ikut seruan “tauke”
Yang penting mereka nak bersuara
Mahu jadi jaguh
Akibatnya ………
Lebih banyak yang negatif dari positif
Kalau dulu aman, kini kurang aman
kalau dulu ekonomi Malaysia menaik, kini tak tentu hala
Kalau dulu harga barangan dan perkhidmatan stabil
Kini saja dinaikkan tanpa penyebab yang kukuh
Ada juga yang naikkan harga walaupun bos kata “jangan”
Kalau dulu rakyat majmuk Malaysia lebih bersatu, lebih bertoleransi
Kini mula meretak
Kalau dulu nyaman, kini berombak-ombak
Kalau dulu polis banyak kerja untuk keamanan negara
Kini polis banyak kerja buat soal siasat saman menyaman antara antara individu.
Apa inikan yang harus kita terima
Untuk mendapatkan “demokrasi yang hakiki”
Untuk mendapat 100% demokrasi.
Kalau begitulah hakikatnya.
Saya lebih rela demokrasi cara kita yang dulu
ADAKAH ORANG MELAYU BERSEDIA ?
1. kepada orang melayu Tanya diri anda,kawan dan keluarga adakah kita bersedia untuk melepaskan semua kelebihan-kelebihan yang kita nikmati sekarang sebagai orang melayu. Adakah kita bersedia untuk bersaing secara sama rata dengan kaum bukan melayu. Saya ambil contoh paling senang dari segi pendidikan jika kita buka kemasukan ke matrik dengan sepenuhnya bergantung kepada keputusan SPM, saya kira peratusan orang melayu dan bukan melayu akan memihak kepada orang bukan melayu. Saya sendiri merupakan lepasan matrik, keputusan SPM saya boleh dikira baik dan setanding dengan bukan melayu, berbeza dengan kawan saya yang mempunyai keputusan yang tidak memuaskan dan jika kemasukan sepenuhnya bergantung kepada keputusan, dia tidak akan berpeluang untuk ke matrik. Tapi dengan berkat Allah dan usahanya kami sekarang dapat menyambung pelajaran dalam jurusan perubatan di IPTA di KL. Saya tamat matrik pada 2007, jadi saya rasa dalam masa sesingkat ini perkara seperti ini pasti berulang. Secara jelasnya di sini melayu memang masih memerlukan bantuan dan masa untuk mengubah nasib mereka.
2. Pada saya ada 2 sebab jika orang melayu bersetuju untuk melepaskan apa yang mereka nikmati sekarang, pertama kerana mereka terpengaruh dengan keadaan politik sekarang yang mendorong mereka mengikut perasaan tanpa berfikir secara rasional, dan sebilangan kecil kerana mereka sudah bersedia untuk bersaing secara sama rata dengan bukan melayu, tetapi mereka harus terima hakikat bukan semua orang melayu bersedia secara total. . Saya tertarik dengan pepatah dari DR. P.P yang ada menyebut âsee what is right and what is wrong instead of who is right and who is wrongâ. Oleh itu nasihat saya untuk ahli politik yang âlantangâ mengugut dan menghentam orang melayu yang menyokong dasar hak sama rata ini seharusnya berusaha untuk menerangkan KENAPA buat masa ini kita masih perlu untuk mempertahankan kelebihan yang kita nikmati. Salah satu sebab yang menyebabkan mereka mudah terpengaruh dengan cakap-cakap politik sekarang mungkin kerana perasaan marah terhadap kelemahan pentadbiran sekarang, sepertimana yang dinyatakan oleh tun dr.m dalam satu temu bual âangry people will do something stupidâ.
3. for the non-malays friends once again I believed that our government never denied your right as a malaysian, if not we won’t have such a great achievement within 50 years in all group ethnic, the differences are only you can not have the special privilege that have been given to malays as a result of agreement of both malays and non-malays leaders during formation of malaysia to assure that malays, who is away left behind during that time can reformed their lives and gain back a lot of the thing that they lost and miss during colonization era. To make it easy I think its good if you can put yourself in our position and understand why it is so important for us to defend what have been given to us. ok try to think this way, let say if one day millions of foreigner from indo,Pakistan, that have been settled down in Malaysia for years and ask to be a Malaysians. Would you just accept it just like that? This might sounds ridiculous and crazy, but what Iâm trying to stress here is, it is not that easy to compromised about this particular thing. Again, Iâm not a racist Iâm proud to see Malaysia consist of multiracial community, but It also important for me to defend the right of malays for the next generation, maybe not for me but for other malays that needs more times to gain back what they have lost. p/s my writing might not related to this topic. Thanks to kamarul for your understandings, hope you can explain those thing to others malays who claimed they are ready;j
ADAKAH ORANG MELAYU BERSEDIA ?
1. kepada orang melayu Tanya diri anda,kawan dan keluarga adakah kita bersedia untuk melepaskan semua kelebihan-kelebihan yang kita nikmati sekarang sebagai orang melayu. Adakah kita bersedia untuk bersaing secara sama rata dengan kaum bukan melayu. Saya ambil contoh paling senang dari segi pendidikan jika kita buka kemasukan ke matrik dengan sepenuhnya bergantung kepada keputusan SPM, saya kira peratusan orang melayu dan bukan melayu akan memihak kepada orang bukan melayu. Saya sendiri merupakan lepasan matrik, keputusan SPM saya boleh dikira baik dan setanding dengan bukan melayu, berbeza dengan kawan saya yang mempunyai keputusan yang tidak memuaskan dan jika kemasukan sepenuhnya bergantung kepada keputusan, dia tidak akan berpeluang untuk ke matrik. Tapi dengan berkat Allah dan usahanya kami sekarang dapat menyambung pelajaran dalam jurusan perubatan di IPTA di KL. Saya tamat matrik pada 2007, jadi saya rasa dalam masa sesingkat ini perkara seperti ini pasti berulang. Secara jelasnya di sini melayu memang masih memerlukan bantuan dan masa untuk mengubah nasib mereka.
2. Pada saya ada 2 sebab jika orang melayu bersetuju untuk melepaskan apa yang mereka nikmati sekarang, pertama kerana mereka terpengaruh dengan keadaan politik sekarang yang mendorong mereka mengikut perasaan tanpa berfikir secara rasional, dan sebilangan kecil kerana mereka sudah bersedia untuk bersaing secara sama rata dengan bukan melayu, tetapi mereka harus terima hakikat bukan semua orang melayu bersedia secara total. . Saya tertarik dengan pepatah dari DR. P.P yang ada menyebut âsee what is right and what is wrong instead of who is right and who is wrongâ. Oleh itu nasihat saya untuk ahli politik yang âlantangâ mengugut dan menghentam orang melayu yang menyokong dasar hak sama rata ini seharusnya berusaha untuk menerangkan KENAPA buat masa ini kita masih perlu untuk mempertahankan kelebihan yang kita nikmati. Salah satu sebab yang menyebabkan mereka mudah terpengaruh dengan cakap-cakap politik sekarang mungkin kerana perasaan marah terhadap kelemahan pentadbiran sekarang, sepertimana yang dinyatakan oleh tun dr.m dalam satu temu bual âangry people will do something stupidâ.
3. for the non-malays friends once again I believed that our government never denied your right as a malaysian, the differences are only you can not have the special privilege that have been given to malays as a result of agreement of both malays and non-malays leaders during formation of malaysia to assure that malays, who is away left behind during that time can reformed their lives and gain back a lot of the thing that they lost and miss during colonization era. To make it easy I think its good if you can put yourself in our position and understand why it is so important for us to defend what have been given to us. ok try to think this way, let say if one day millions of foreigner from indo,Pakistan, that have been settled down in Malaysia for years and ask to be a Malaysians. Would you just accept it just like that? This might sounds ridiculous and crazy, but what Iâm trying to stress here is, it is not that easy to compromised about this particular thing. Again, Iâm not a racist Iâm proud to see Malaysia consist of multiracial community, but It also important for me to defend the right of malays for the next generation, maybe not for me but for other malays that needs more times to gain back what they have lost. p/s my writing might not related to this topic. Thanks to kamarul for your understandings, hope you can explain those thing to others malays who claimed they are ready;j
Kepada Nasha bin Edwin,
Pada pendapat saya, biarlah UITM dengan polisi asalnya. Dari sejarah penubuhan UITM itu sendiri, yang dulu dikenali sebagai Maktab REDA (kalau tak silap), objektifnya adalah memberi pendidikan profesional kepada bangsa Melayu supaya dapat ‘mengejar’ pencapaian bangsa bukan-Melayu. Dari segi persaingan, selama ini pun tidak ada masalah bagi UITM untuk bersaing dengan IPTA lain. Malah bagi sebilangan bidang (spt. perhotelan, perakaunan, kejuruteraan awam, kajian media, sains komputer, reka cipta dan arkitek) masih dipelopori oleh universiti ini sejak dulu lagi (berdasarkan data alumni UITM). Adakah anda yakin dengan kemasukan pelajar bukan-Melayu akan meningkatkan persaingan di kalangan pelajar di UITM? Dan dengan tidak membenarkan kaum lain belajar di UITM akan menyebabkan pelajar Melayu tertinggal dan sempit fikiran? Jika ya jawapan anda, rujuklah kepada sektor industri dan perkhidmatan dan di mana-mana sahaja yang mengambil graduan UITM bekerja. Bandingkanlah secara adil kualiti mereka berbanding graduan lain dari IPTA lain dan IPTS.
as always, i support u
Salam kepada YAB Tun dan rakan2 bloggers,
1. Tun was the no.1 man in Malaysia for 22 odd years.
2. As the no.1 man Tun received thousands of sensitive infos about the threats to our country, our peoples, our economies, etc..threats from within and from external.
3. Only the no.1 man have all these infos. Let me give a small example, any racial conflicts (maybe just a brawl)in Penang must be reported to the highest authority there…so can you imagine what Tun received during those 22 years where most of us could slept thru the nites, but Tun had to figure out how to save this nation and its people.
4. The special branch, army intelligence, interpol, MI5/6, CIA, malaysian agents, etc reported to their superiors and in return the superiors brief or wrote to Tun.
5. So, when Tun said those were sensitive issues played by the stupid and idiotic bar council people, Tun could foresee what’s coming. Lucky thing only a few hundred protested and was brought under control. Now, what if, they became unruly and went amok, like the 13th May or the Memali incident? Even the indians will go to war when their religion is ridicule, right?
6. But like it or not, the majority Malays are angry and despised the Indians after the hindraf show of power, the Indian PM siding the hindraf, the bar council people in relationship to hindraf,to DAP, the bar council which happens to have more Indians who are arrogant and kurang ajar, man…the hatred went deeper.
7. During 13th May 69, besides the chinese, the indians were cursing the malays most, some unzipped their flies and showed their genitals to the malays, showing the brooms to sweep the malays from K.L (please read the 13th May reports). Now, the bar council with the indians (majority) on board were just opening the wounds of the malays…that was why Tun and others advised not to proceed with the forum…we have a lot to lose than to gain.
8. Unless the bar council had ulterior motive for open forum, if not why can’t they educate the public through other channels? a more neutral or more discreet ways…what were their objectives, anyway? why chose open forum? there are 1001 ways to achieve the objectives of educating the public.
9. So please bar council, stop your nonsense for the sake of the indians. You bar council idiots must be responsible when the malays and indians go to war!
10. Maybe, just maybe, if bar council is well represented with other races, maybe the hatred by the malays when touching on malays/Islamic issues will not be that bad. But again, check on your objectives..only you know what you really want, right?
Thank you Tun, I just feel bad when some of these people cannot understand what you’re trying to do. But knowing you, a strong personality, you will not give up in helping those who are still struggling with their lives, to survive this multi-cultural society.
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN,
Kami diluar negeri dan kini berpeluang
menjengok blog Ayahanda.
Izinkan,
By Anba on August 16, 2008 6:27 AM
. So, when you say that Malaysians are only paying a ‘small price’ by not discussing certain sensitive issues, I totally disagree with you. Let’s see how big of a price we are paying by not discussing and debating sensitive issues.
. The non-Malays, on the contrary are being left behind to rightly pursue their tertiary education and also possibly force many average grade students to begin to work after their SPM or STPM. God knows the countless number of non -Malays who suffered by being forced to convert to a Muslim when they marry a Muslim. Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim. I am not a Muslim scholar, but I am a tolerant human being who believes that every major religion is a love and peace abiding religion but the human beings who twist and turn the facts from the scriptures to suit their own needs.
Aiyoyo Kadawalek. Mr. Anba, ni yenne syolle, ayya.
Please don’t enroach into the territory of ISLAM if you’re not a Muslim scholar. We wud suggest you take a pilgrimage to India and take a year’s diploma course to be a ‘Sammi’ and then preach your ‘kadawalek’ to your kind and don’t go beyond that territory as long as you still want to be ‘sirr’ a Malaysian Indian!.
We wud like to give you a piece of our lifestory as a malay, born with a wooden spoon and strived to survive.
In the primary school, we were the best malay pupil from std.1 to 6, always amongst the top three in the A class. Come the test for the entry to MCKK (Malay College Kuala Kangsar), we were not considered by the Asst. Head Ministress, an Indian lady. When asked why we we not given the chance to take the test, her replied was that our family were too poor.
May I asked you Mr. Anba, what actions wud you have taken if such words were spoken to you?(Say this country is Indian majority)
Then came the eligibilty of the scholarhip,You wud have guessed..eh?
Although we despised what had happened, we believed in the Almighty and took it within our strides as a TEST.
Even when our concept paper for the the development of new IPDs we named KIPP(Kawasan Ibu Pejabat Polis) was hijacked by some Malay enthusiasts and finally developed with uncanny similarities with that of the writer’s concept except the for the new( 3 in 1) sports known as ‘Soccer Jaring’ which is truly ours, we accepted as faith and surrender to the Almighty.The fact that the concept is realised is a consolation to us.
We did not condemn the NEP although we rightfully felt deserving, so who the hell is Anba or Ambiga and her ‘gudumbuks’ to questioned on the malay/muslim rights in this country called Malaysia?
MY POINT HERE IS MR. ANBA, WE CAN ACCEPT AND TOLERATE THE ABUSES OF THE NEP AND THE BIASNESS OF THE AMNINISTRATION TOWARDS THE ‘WELL CONNECTED MALAYS’ AND MADE FOOLS OUT OF ‘POOR’ MELAYU LIKE US,
BUT MR ANBA, WHEN YOU OR ANYBODY INCLUDING GEORGE BUSH QUESTIONED THE RELIGION OF ISLAM,PLEASE BE READY TO FACE THE WRATH OF THE MUSLIMS INCLUDING US, IF NOT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH.
IF YOU LOVE THE PEACE AND POSPERITY YOU AND ME AND THE REST OF THE RAKYAT HAVE CHERISHED ESPECIALLY DURING AYAHANDA TUN’S ERA, WE BEG YOU AND THE ISA (INDIANS SHOWS OF AGGRESSION) BAR(ricaded by AAB) COUNCIL, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP ORGANISING FORUMS OR MAKING REMARKS SENSITIVE TO THE MALAY/MUSLIM COMMUNITY.
THE MALAY/MUSLIM WILL PREVAILED EVEN IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE THE MINORITY RACE OF THIS NATION.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS WILL BE AND THE âBIG PRICEâ YOU AND YOUR KIND HAVE TO PAY? PLEASE THREAD RELIGOUS ISSUE WITH CAUTION.
WE ARE PEACE LOVING RAKYAT OF MALAYSIA ALTHOUGH WE WISH THE âALWAYS ACCOMODATING BLOCKEDHEADâ (AAB) WUD GO INTO OBLIVION SOONEST POSSIBLE.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, HELL WILL EVENTUALLY BREAK LOSE IF THE CURRENT ACCOMODATING GOVERNANCE PROLONGED.
MAY THE ALMIGHTY SHIELD THE RAKYAT AWAY FROM ANY MAYHEM.
Bernama reported that Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told the Dewan Rakyat that he was concentrating on five tasks as spelt out in the Barisan Nasional (BN) election promises and the Ninth Malaysia Plan (9MP) before stepping down in 2010.
The prime minister said these included the development corridor initiatives, and enhancing the judicial system and government’s service delivery system.
Abdullah said his first task had borne fruit, that was reducing the poverty level from 5.7 per cent in 2004 to 3.6 per cent last year and bridging the income gap between the rich and poor.
He said he also gave emphasis on improving the performance of government-linked companies (GLCs) where the net profit of 20 selected GLCs had soared 91 per cent higher than before the “GLC Transformation” in 2005.
“Thirdly, the effort to revitalise the agriculture and agro-based industry has created awareness on its strategic importance to the economy and national security,” he said.
Abdullah said fourthly, he stressed on the government’s delivery system which had shown vast improvement especially in the counter service.
He said his emphasis on human capital development was aimed at achieving development by enhancing knowledge, culture and mindsets of the people, including civil servants.
Comment:
Pak Lah is talking nonsense. If truly he has achieved significant progress, why then he lost 5+1 states? That shows his policies are not effective at all.
Salam untuk Tun, walaupun apa yang Tun pernah buat sebagai pemimpin, PM, kadangkala nampak sangat keras tetapi kini barulah kita memahami bahawa untuk memimpin negara kita yang berbilang kaum, pemimpin Melayu sebagai PM mesti tegas, berani dan bijak dibanding dengan Pak Lah sekarang. Begitu juga halnya dulu dengan Gus Dur yang telah membinasakan Indonesia dibanding dengan Suharto. Saya percaya Tun masih boleh membantu Pak Lah buat sementara demi Melayu. Harap maaf.
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Govt Contributes RM81,965.75 For Bar Council Dinner – Zaid
Dear Tun,
Bernama reported that, the government had contributed RM81,965.75 to the Bar Council to organise a dinner on April 17, said Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Zaid Ibrahim.
He said the dinner was held to enlighten the Bar Council on the government’s commitment on the call for judicial reform and reversing the negative perception of the judiciary since 1988.
Comment:
How foolish Zaid is to spend a large amount of public fund just to enlighten the Bar Council, as if they are very special people to the extent of having to throw a very sumptuous dinner for them.
As I always said this Zaid character is an impressionist of the first order, trying to project himself as if he is really an outstanding lawyer. In actual fact, he is not fit to be a Minister of Law whose appointment is through the backdoor of Seri Perdana. Haprak !!!
Salam sejahtera Tun,
Sekali lagi saya berharap agar Tun memaparkan komen saya kerana saya ingin berkongsi pendapat dengan rakan-rakan yang tidak melihat isu forum tersebut dari sudut yang cukup objektif.
Saya merujuk kepada komen saudara/saudari abhsaa on August 18, 2008 8:21 AM: “Mengapa memilih tajuk Memeluk Agama Islam yang dibahaskan oleh bukan Islam?”
Sememangnya soalan ini banyak ditanya dan menjadi alasan forum tersebut diprotes.
Dengan mengaplikasikan logik yang sama, saya tertanya-tanya, “Mengapa memilih tajuk Memeluk Agama Islam yang dibahaskan oleh umat Islam dan ulama?”
Sebenarnya, jawapannya mudah. Tajuk itu tidak harus dibahaskan oleh umat Islam atau bukan Islam sahaja, tetapi kedua-dua pihak perlu dilibatkan. Tajuk itu dipilih kerana itulah sebenarnya perkara yang perlu dan ingin dibincangkan. Panelnya dipilih dari golongan yang berwibawa masing-masing dalam bidang undang-undang dan/atau agama Islam. Maka kombinasi panelis ini dapat memberi pandangan yang menyeluruh serta merakumi kedua-dua cabangan undang-undang, baik Syariah ataupun bukan Syariah, dengan tanpa prejudis.
Kenapa melibatkan umat bukan Islam? Kerana isu ini mendatangkan kesan terutamanya terhadap umat bukan Islam. Keputusan untuk memeluk Islam bukan suatu keputusan peribadi sahaja. Apabila seseorang yang bukan Islam itu memeluk Islam, kesannya terhadap institusi keluarganya yang sedia ada amat besar. Mereka akan menghadapi dilema dalam pelbagai isu seperti perkahwinan/penceraian, hak penjagaan terhadap anak-anak dan penguburan. Isu-isu ini sudah pun timbul dan melibatkan ahli-ahli keluarga yang tidak menganut Islam. Undang-undang yang sedia ada pula tidak memberikan jalan menyelesaian bagi dilema ini.
Saya berasa bahawa jalan penyelesaian perlu dicari bagi pihak-pihak yang terlibat dalam kes sebegini, dan forum tersebut merupakan salah satu caranya. Sama ada cara ini cara terbaik bolehlah didebatkan nanti. Saya mendapati banyak umat Islam yang tersinggung dengan forum tersebut, tetapi saya tidak memahami sebabnya. Mungkin kerana istilah “Islam” terkandung dalam tajuk perbahasan maka dengan serta-merta dan automatik forum itu disifatkan sebagai anti-Islam, kerana agama dikatakan harus diikuti tanpa dicabar. Forum itu bukannya mencabar kedudukan Islam ataupun mengkritis penganut-penganut Islam. Forum itu juga bukannya menghalang mana-mana pihak daripada memeluk Islam. Yang menjadi tumpuan panelis hanyalah cara penyelesaian bagi menghadapi implikasi-implikasi yang timbul apabila seseorang itu memeluk agama Islam. Ini tiada kena-mengena dengan kedudukan atau martabat mana-mana pihak atau mana-mana agama. Ini hanyalah suatu usaha yang realistik untuk mencari jalan penyelesaian bagi mengatasi suatu dilema yang cukup nyata. Kenapa pula ini menyinggung perasaan?
Sehubungan itu, saya faham bahawa agama ini isu sensitif, malah sensitiviti itu berbeza antara individu. Tetapi, kalau ada orang yang betul-betul menderita kerana undang-undang yang ada tidak dapat memberikan keadilan yang wajar kepada mereka, sanggupkah kita merendahkan aras sensitiviti diri kita sebentar bagi membolehkan keadilan dituntut oleh mereka yang menderita? Kalau sanggup, inilah sikap bertolak-ansur yang sebenar. Seseorang yang bertolak-ansur dengan penuh keikhlasan tidak akan mengira betapa banyaknya pengorbanan yang suah dibuat dahulu, jika diperlukan memandangkan keadaan sekarang, toleransi tetap sanggup diberikan. Pada pendapat saya, banyak umat Islam/Melayu di Malaysia yang tidak sanggup bertolak ansur terhadap isu forum ini kerana mereka berasa sangsi terhadap agenda orang bukan Islam/Melayu. Maka, setiap langkah yang diambil oleh umat bukan Islam dianggap sebagai mengancam kedudukan Islam. Setiap langkah yang diambil oleh orang bukan Melayu dianggap sebagai mencabar martabat orang Melayu. Sama juga tanggapan orang bukan Islam/bukan Melayu terhadap orang Islam/Melayu dan sesama mereka. Perasaan sangsi ini pula diapi-apikan oleh ahli-ahli politik yang tidak bertanggungjawab. Sedangkan kita semua cuma mahukan pembangunan untuk diri serta negara ini dari segi pendidikan, ekonomi, perundangan dan sebagainya tetapi kita disyaki dalam usaha kita yang berbeza pendekatannya. Maka, kita membuta sahaja terhadap kesengsaraan orang lain yang kita anggap bukan daripada golongan kita sendiri. Inilah sebabnya masyarakat Malaysia berpecah belah.
Tun, sementara saya menulis, hati saya semakin sedih kerana saya tidak yakin lagi menggelar diri saya anak Malaysia. Saya berketurunan Cina tetapi dilahirkan di Malaysia, dibesarkan serta dididik di sini juga. Namum, saya merasakan ada di kalangan masyarakat Malaysia yang ingin menyingkirkan saya kerana saya dianggap berketurunan asing, walaupun keluarga saya telahpun menetap di Malaysia sejak dua ratus tahun yang lalu. Kalau disingkirkan dari negara ini ke manakah saya pergi? Ini negara yang saya taati, tetapi ketaatan saya kerasaan tidak diiktiraf di tanah air sendiri. Kelmarin pula saya menonton Chong Wei bertarung dengan Lin Dan dalam acara badminton di Sukan Olimpik. Kesemua rakyat Malaysia biarkan Melayu, Cina, India, Kadazan atau pun Iban turut bersorak demi usaha Chong Wei. Saya pun turut menyokong Chong Wei kerana dia mewakili Malaysia. Dulu saya bersorak demi Hafis juga. Kalau diteliti, masyarakat Malaysia ini sebenarnya boleh bersatu tanpa mengira kaum. Kesepaduan kita jelas kelihatan di negera asing tetapi di negara sendiri kita asyik bertengkar kerana fokus kita terpaku pada isu-isu yang memisahkan kita. Kenapa kita merancang kemusnahan masa depan kita sendiri? Kenapa merancangkan perpaduan kaum Melayu atau Cina atau India sahaja? Kenapa aspirasi bangsa Malaysia diabaikan? Kenapa semangat perpuakan digalakkan oleh kerajaan dengan polisi yang mengutamakan warna kulit? Kenapa isu perkauman dibesar-besarkan oleh ahli-ahli politik? Kalau ini berterusan, negara ini akan berkecai dan bukan saya sahaja yang akan kehilangan tanah air yang saya taati, tetapi setiap warganegara Malaysia juga akan ditimpa nasib yang sama. Apabila ini berlaku, ahli-ahli politik yang kaya-raya boleh berhijrah ke negara lain, apa pula yang boleh dibuat oleh rakyat jelata?
Saya berharap agar suatu hari nanti masyarakat Malaysia akan bersatu padu semula seperti dulu tanpa mengira kaum, malah perpaduan itu diperkuat lagi. Sebagai langkah yang pertama, saya berharap agar para pembaca blog Tun ini cuba mengkaji setiap perkara dari perspektif yang lebih meluas tanpa bersandar pada prejudis yang tertanam dalam diri kita.
– austozi –
Dear Tun,
Below is an article which has been circulating through email. What is your comment, Tun.
Subject: Academician or Gangster??
University Teknologi MARA (UiTM) Vice-Chancellor Prof Dr Ibrahim Abu Shah (pictured left) ‘warned’ Pakatan Rakyat (PR) Chief Minister of Selangor YAB Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim not to interfere in the internal affairs of the University. He said that Tan Sri Khalid should not seek political mileage to win over non-Malay support for PR.
Now, this so-called ‘academic’ sounds to me more like an Umno politician than a academician. This Scribe thus decided to snoop around and find where he got his Phd (permanent head damage) from. Ibrahim it appears, was UMNO Member (1968 – present) Youth Leader, UMNO Kg. Pulai (1981- 1983) Committee Member, UMNO Youths Jasin, Melaka (1982 – 1983) Chairman (Founder) UMNO Club, Carbondale USA (1983) President, UMNO USA Club (1985 – 1987), Exco of Alumni UMNO Club (oversea) (1995 – present) (Note this Umno Alumni fellows were one of the agitators at the Bar Council Forum).
Among the other ‘contributions’ of this Umno racist include:
1.Talk to all Malaysians UMNO division heads about “Gerakan Anti Kerajaan Pelajar-Pelajar di Kampus-Pengalaman UiTM” – 15 November 2001
2.Panel forum “Agenda Melayu Dalam Dasar Pendidikan”- Conference of Agenda Melayu, Balai Budaya Tun Syed Nasir, DBP – 16 July 2005
3.Talk to all secondary school principals state of Kelantan about “Meritokrasi” – 4 November 2001 at Perdana Hotel, Kota Bharu, Kelantan
4.Presentation of working papers “Intelektual Melayu: Harapan dan Cabaran MRSM” at Convention organized by MARA at Selesa Hotel, Port Dickson – 12 December 2006
Now this Scribe understands where this racist academician is coming from. This Scribe was also right about Umno’s involvement in both the UiTM student demonstration yesterday and as well as the Bar Council Forum disruption. Now, it also explains why the Police did not act on both occasions.
This racist Academician must be reminded together with his racists buddies from Umno that every Malaysian have the right to study and work at UiTM because UiTM is funded by the Government using Malaysian (Muslim and non-Muslim) tax payers money. Need I remind the good Professor that some of these tax money comes from ‘haram’ or sin taxes such as gambling, pork industry, alcohol industry, health clubs etc. Dear Prof, the salary you draw from UiTM also comes from this as well.
It’s not surprising why malaysian Universities are ranked so low in the world. In fact, UiTM has the dubious honor to be known as University Terrorist Malaysia because because Al Qaeda Southeast Asian associates, Jemaah Islamiah operatives, were members of the faculty at UiTM. Surely now, the world can see what a racist party Umno is. This Scribe calls on all non-Malay members of BN to quit it and join Pakatan Rakyat and support Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim as Prime Minister.
Salam TUN,
Kebelakangan ni Tun agak kerap muncul di media. Namapaknya rakyat dahagakan pandangan serta komen bernas dari seorang PEMIMPIN yang Sejati, Pejuang Bangsa, Agama & Negara..
Pst..pst..Dengar khabar Kerajaan sekarang amat bermurah hati turut sponsor Majlis Makan Malam untuk Majlis Peguam niee..???
Kenapa article TUN mengenai AUKU tak boleh nak post comment?
Semoga Tun diberi kekuatan oleh ALLAH SWT untuk terus aktif memperturunkan ilmu kapada rakyat Malaysia….
Majlis Peguam ni memang dah gila! Lagi gila melayu macam Anwar yang sokong pada golongan macam ni…apa nak jadi Malaysia ni. Only u r the best! Saya masih tertunggu-tunggu pengganti Tun!
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Salam Tun,
To reply to “By Anba on August 16, 2008 11:40 PM”
“b. The non-Malays, on the contrary are being left behind to rightly pursue their tertiary education and also possibly force many average grade students to begin to work after their SPM or STPM. God knows the countless number of non -Malays who suffered by being forced to convert to a Muslim when they marry a Muslim. Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim. I am not a Muslim scholar, but I am a tolerant human being who believes that every major religion is a love and peace abiding religion but the human beings who twist and turn the facts from the scriptures to suit their own needs.”
Merujuk kepada ayat anda ” Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim.” diatas, sila lah tatap kepada rukun-rukun nikah dibawah.
Rukun-rukun nikah :
1. Lelaki yang bakal menjadi suami.
2. Perempuan yang bakal menjadi isteri.
3. Wali yang adil
4. Dua orang saksi yang adil
5. Ijab dan Qabul (Tawaran dan Penerimaan)
Syarat-syarat lelaki bakal suami :
1. Beragama Islam
2. Tidak berihram haji atau umrah
3. Lelaki tertentu
4. Belum mempunyai empat isteri
5. Dengan kerelaan diri sendiri bukan paksaan
6. Seorang lelaki (bukan khunsa musykil)
Syarat-syarat perempuan bakal isteri :
1. Beragama Islam.
2. Perempuan yang tertentu.
3. Bukan Mahram kepada lelaki yang bakal menjadi suaminya
4. Bukan isteri orang dan tidak di dalam eddah orang lain.
5. Tidak berihram haji atau umrah.
Jadi telah termaktub bahawa seseorang yang ingin bernikah itu mestilah beragama Islam.
Jikalau anda inginkan bangsa Malaysia, tentulah anda telah meluang sedikit masa untuk memahami jiran-jiran anda dan tidaklah anda menerpa tak tentu hala.
Sekian.
By rakyatengah on August 18, 2008 5:15 PM
Assalamualaikum,
Tun,
Please respond to Shafee shocking press conference.
“I m proud to be half hindu and half muslim”
Are all muslim civil lawyer are same like him or not?.
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Is Shafee a Malay or bumiputera now???
Salam Tun,
Asal usul Kontrak Sosial.
Masa sebelum Negara kita merdeka dulu memang ramai pekerja-pekerja kontrak dari Negara China dan India datang ke Malaysia yang di bawa oleh kerajaan British untuk bekerja di lombong-lombong bijih dan ladang-ladang getah di Negara ini. Tetapi masa tu mereka tidaklah dipanggil sebagai pekerja kontrak.
Memang sifat orang Melayu dari dulu lebih selesa menjadi âtuanâ mereka tidak berapa suka kerja sebagai buruh kontrak ni. Mungkin juga kerajaan British ketika itu bayar upah yang murah maka orang Melayu tak suka kerja seperti itu.
Sama jugalah seperti masa sekarang ini, kerja-kerja pembinaan yang memerlukan tenaga tulang empat kerat, kerja-kerja yang bergaji murah seperti pelayan-pelayan kedai, membersih bangunan atau pejabat tidak diminati oleh rakyat tempatan.
Oleh itu kerja-kerja seperti ini telah diambil alih oleh pendatang-pendatang dari luar seperti dari Indonesia, China, India, Bangladesh, Nepal dan Myanmar. Akhirnya ramailah pekerja-pekerja asing ini memenuhi Negara kita.
Mereka ini datang dengan niat untuk bekerja bagi mendapatkan wang untuk dihantar balik bagi keperluan keluarga mereka yang ditinggalkan di kampung. Mereka yang datang bekerja ini juga tidak pernah memikirkan untuk terus tinggal menetap di Malaysia.
Kehidupan mereka di sini sungguh ringkas sekali. Mereka makan sekadar yang boleh mengenyangkan, pakaian pun jarang berganti baru, tinggal di rumah kongsi, lebih baik sikit mungkin ada majikan yang menyewakan rumah untuk dikongsi beramai-ramai dan jauh sekalilah untuk membeli perabut-perabut mahal dan harta kekal kerana susah untuk dibawa balik ke Negara asal mereka nanti.
Kecintaan mereka kepada Negara ini memang boleh dikatakan tidak ada, hati dan perasaan mereka hanyalah kepada Negara asal mereka sahaja.
Kita sebagai warganegara dan rakyat tempatan tidak begitu selesa dengan kehadiran pendatang-pendatang asing ini. Resam dan budaya mereka jauh berbeza dengan kita. Sudah tentu kita tidak mahu kalau pekerja-pekerja asing ini diberikan taraf warganegara. Kita masih curiga dengan kesetiaan dan kecintaan mereka terhadap Negara ini.
Suasana beginilah yang berlaku semasa menjelang Negara kita mencapai kemerdekaan dahulu. Masyarakat Melayu yang merupakan penduduk tempatan Malaya ketika itu sangsi dengan kesetiaan dan kecintaan orang-orang Cina dan India terhadap Negara ini yang kehadiran mereka sebelum itu hanya dianggap sebagai pekerja asing yang mencari wang di sini.
Kebanyakan pekerja-pekerja Cina dan India ketika itu memang lahir di Negara asal mereka, mereka datang ke Malaya untuk bekerja bagi mendapatkan wang. Oleh itu memang tak dapat dinafikan kesetiaan dan kecintaan mereka kepada Negara asal itu masih tebal, Malaya hanyalah tempat mereka mencari makan sahaja.
Tidak hairanlah kalau semasa penjajahan Jepun tahun 1941, ramai orang-orang Cina di Malaya dibunuh oleh Jepun kerana orang-orang Cina di Malaya ini juga dianggap sebagai warga Negara China. Di waktu itu Jepun juga berperang dengan Negara China.
Apabila British menawarkan Merdeka kepada Malaya, British telah meletakkan syarat supaya orang-orang asing yang mereka bawa ke Malaya iaitu orang-orang Cina dan orang-orang India hendaklah diterima sebagai warganegara seperti orang Melayu, tentulah syarat yang dikenakan British ini amat berat untuk diterima oleh penduduk tempatan atau orang Melayu ketika itu.
Samalah beratnya seperti kita hendak menerima pekerja-pekerja asing dari Indonesia, China, India, Bangladesh, Nepal dan Myanmar sekarang ini untuk menjadi warganegara Malaysia.
Memang ada sebab untuk orang tempatan berasa bimbang kalau pendatang atau pekerja asing ini diberikan taraf warganegara, kerana khuwatir orang asing ini akan merampas hak-hak dan keistimewaan yang mereka miliki sebagai rakyat tempatan.
Maka dari situlah lahirnya apa yang dinamakan âkontrak sosialâ yang telah dipersetujui antara pemimpin-pemimpin dari tiga kaum terbesar ini iaitu Melayu, China dan India bagi mencari jalan tengah bagi mengatasi masalah tersebut.
Mengikut yang punya cerita, dari âkontrak sosialâ inilah lahirnya âketuananâ dan âkeistimewaanâ orang-orang Melayu yang telah dipersetujui antara pemimpin-pemimpin kaum tadi.
Kini kita telahpun 50 tahun merdeka, hampir semua orang Cina dan orang India yang menjadi warganegara Malaysia hari ini adalah lahir di bumi Malaysia ini. Kesetiaan dan kecintaan mereka kepada Malaysia memang tidak boleh disangsikan. Di sinilah tempat mereka dilahirkan dan disini jugalah tempat mereka mahu dikebumikan.
Oleh itu âkontrak sosialâ yang pernah dipersetujui untuk suasana di masa yang lalu itu memang tidak relevan lagi. Kita tidak kira kaum seharusnya mempunyai hak yang sama, tidak ada siapa harus menjadi âtuanâ dan tidak ada siapa juga yang harus menjadi âhambaâ. Kita bukan lagi berdepan dengan pekerja asing dari China dan dari India seperti sebelum merdeka dulu, tetapi sekarang kita berdepan dengan orang Cina dan India yang lahir di bumi ini.
Kalau etnik Jawa, Minang, Banjar, Bugis telah boleh diterima setaraf warganegara Melayu lainnya, maka tidak ada sebab etnik Cina dan India tidak boleh mendapat taraf yang sama.
Mungkin perbezaan adat dan agama menyebabkan kita sukar untuk bergaul antara satu sama lain, tetapi ini bukanlah sebab untuk kita membeza-bezakan hak-hak mereka melalui âkontrak sosialâ yang dikenakan kepada mereka tanpa mereka mengetahui justifikasi disebalik kewujudan âkontrak sosialâ itu.
salam semua…
saya tidak mahu komen tentang majlis peguam tetapi saya ingin komen tentang kepentingan Melayu dalam UITM. Saya sebenarnya menyokong cadangan MB selangor untuk membuka ruang pembelajran kepada bukan bumiputera. Pada pendapat saya Melayu perlu sedar bahawa lambat laun mereka perlu bersaing dengan bangsa lain. Sekiranya bangsa melayu dikongkong mindanya yang supaya sentiasa berfikiran sempit dan tidak dapat bersaing maka selamanyalah melayu akan takut dengan bayang-bayang sendiri.
Ayuhlah orang melayu jangan lagi bermimpi kita akan sentiasa selesa selamanya dengan beranggapan kita tidak perlu bersaing dan tetap berpegang teguh dengan bantuan kerjaan serta keistimewaaan melayu itu sendiri.Kalau kita dah boleh menggunakan BI dalam MT dan SN apa salahnya kita juga boleh menyediakan sedikit ruang kepada bangsa lain untuk membuktikan kita bokeh bersaing.
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Assalamu’alaikum Tun & family
I was born in 1951 and concur strongly on the many topics that you had written.
During my transport studies, I had a lecturer by the name of Mr Chandran, a Malaysian. The multi-racial class consists of engineers, managers, police, airport and seaport staff .
One day, we had an open talk on malaysian politics as compared to other countries. It was only natural that America was being praised as the most democratic. Then a manager fm MAS mentioned that India was the most democratic. The indians were able to openly criticise the Indian government on all matters in view of the “open” policy of the country.
The lecturer upon summing the talk said;
1. America gained independece more than 200 yrs ago. How many non-white senators are there since America gained independence ?
2. India gained independence in 1947. The ‘open’ policy to criticise resulted in more orators for India. Unfortunately, it was detrimental to India’s growth as projects could not go on due to wide criticisms.
3. Malaysia gained independence in 1957. The chinese and indians were widely represented in the Parliament, unlike America. On the contrary, Malaysia’s growth progress was more prominent that India despite it’s political limitations
First and foremost is the country’s safety and it’s rakyat.I believe that it is pertinent for the other races to take caution and care on Malay sensitivities. ISA should not be withdrawn as it is a very important tool to ensure that arrogant and opportunist leaders do not walk the line on sensitivities that could harm the nation.
Wassalam
How valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam? Apparently not, according to Perlis Mufti Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, PAS President Abdul Hadi Awang, PAS Spiritual Leader Nik Aziz Nik Mat, PAS Deputy Spiritual Leader Dr Haron Din, and the host of other Islamic scholars regarded as authorities on Islam by most Malays.
What is troubling me in all this is why the officials of that mosque allowed this “ritual” to take place in the fashion that is alien to Islam?
Are they now pawns in this political game too? too? Have they given Allah’s blessings to crooks and lairs and are they as
Now I know how much UMNO people understand Islam,please go back to school and start all over again.You people have tarnish the image of Islam and muslims,prepare to be punished in your next lives.Quickly repent and be righteous,you have very little time left
asalamualaikum tun
this act by the Malaysian bar council is insensitive.there no issues that actually calls for an open forum.
it’s about marriage and divorce cases.the effect,custody,wealth distribution etc.every race and faith faces this issues daily.settle that first,like the muslims having a syariah court.once that’s ironed out.then we can start the ground works for inter-religion cases.
so Malaysian bar council,please concentrate on subject more constructive to the nations.
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Hmm….macam2 sgt budak nih tulih…..what’s your comment Tun?Salam hormat dari saya:
Assalamualaikum,
Tun,
Please respond to Shafee shocking press conference.
“I m proud to be half hindu and half muslim”
Are all muslim civil lawyer are same like him or not?.
I believe you are not like him.
As on behalf of us, who post comment to your blog. We, majority are muslim will respond to your article.
Sorry out of topic, no need to post my comment.
Hanya mampu menyembelih kafir tersebut.
DEAR TUN,
Fully agreed. I think majority of the Malays agreed. What’s the functions of Bar Council anyway? Political party? They seems to fight only for certain race. Apparently some of their memebers are Malays and Muslim? What are they doing there? This so called Council never defend any right of the Malays or Muslim.
Is Bar Council is Hindraf? What’s the status of Hindraf? At one time a minister announced that it is illegal. Zaid Ibrahim make it legal?
The Malays agreed to have the other two races as citizen of our country in exchanged of the independence provided that our rights remain protected and undisturbed. This agreement was agreed based on race. No time limit was ever agreed.
So long as the races exist on this land of ours, it shall remain. No one should ever question even if you never learn how to be thankfull.
The Malay(s) who collaborates to eliminate the malay’s right is actually eleiminating themselves.
Salam Tun,
To:By Wake Up on August 18, 2008 1:14 PM
“With regards to UiTM issues, it reminds me of USA 100 years ago, which they used to have “White” only schools/universities… sigh… our mentality are lagging a century behind…”
Please also have a look at the following if you wanna compare Malaysia to USA. This is taken from “http://collegeuniversity.suite101.com/article.cfm/black_history___college_education”
1960 Four college students from North Carolina Agricultural and Technical College sat down at an all-white Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro, North Carolina and politely refused to leave until they were served. Although they were not served lunch, their sit-in was a landmark moment in the Civil Rights Movement that sparked a wave of sit-ins and economic boycotts of Woolworth stores nationwide. Six months later, the students were served lunch.
1962 Escorted by federal marshalls under the orders of President John F. Kennedy, James Meredith becomes the first African American student to attend the University of Mississippi. Riots ensued, which led to two deaths and dozens of injuries. Meredith graduated in 1963.
1963 At the University of Alabama, Governor George Wallace tried to physically block the admission of Vivian Malone and James Hood, two African American students who had been admitted by court order into the university. The National Guard was present to protect the students. Governor Wallace eventually stepped aside, and two years later Vivian Malone became the first African American student to graduate from the University of Alabama.
It was not hundred years ago, this was less than 50 years ago, and 100 years after the US Civil War and 200 years after their independence.
USA has the worst record in history for equality. So, please dont quote anything from The USA. Also they are currently colonizing Afghanistan and Iraq. They are are also detaining people with out trial, please see Guantanamo Bay.
I truly agree with Tun, The malaysians are proud of you.
Salam Tun,
Sy paling bencila dengan “org ditingkat 4”, nampak sgt nak bolot semua kekayaan negara, dia nak ambik peluang sementara ayah ZZZZ dia berkuasa dlm tdo..berangan nak jadi PM konon..pi raaahhh..so slagi Ayah ZZZ ni tak letak jwtn, manusia tingkat 4 ni la akan bolot smua smpai dia jadi kaya raya lps ni, org mcm ni bukan kisah pun rakyat mcm mana, yg penting kaya cepat.
I absoulutely agree with your statement…
pendapat generasi muda berkenaan isu UiTM ada di web portal kami
ooopppsss.. i think few of my facts should be corrected… but… i think you guys can correct it urself kot… thanks
assalamualaikum tun..
pada pendapat saya hak keistimewaan orang melayu tidak perlu dihapuskan seperti yang diminta oleh sesetengah orang baik cina, india dan melayu tu sendiri.
kita boleh ibaratkan dan jadikan hak istimewa org melayu sebagai keris.
apa bila kita boleh berlawan dan bersaing dengan tangan kosong maka xperlu kita gunakan keris tapi apabila keadaan memerlukan dan boleh menyebabkan bencana maka kite gunakan keris tu.
dengan ini kita bleh blajar untuk bersaing secara adil dan tidak ketinggalan dengan pesaing kita seterusnya memajukan bangsa kita. dan kalau kalah pun tp membawa kebaikan its ok kerana kekalahan juga boleh menjadikan kita makin kuat. asalkan tidak membawa bencana dan keburukan.
sy percaya hak keistimewaan orang melayu bukanla penghalang kepada penyatuan semua bangsa di malaysia asalkan masing2 tau menghormati hak masing2.
p/s seronok bile kat kedai mamak tengok india melayu cina bersatu menyokong Chong Wei lawan Lin Dan
I firmly believes in the AUKU for the obvious reason – for the continued succession of the Malay race in the rat race. FACT:- The act does not rein your personal belief in politics but merely to control young hot-blooded political aspirants who firmly believes that they can contribute to the growth of the nation by championing popular issues without strong academic background. How naive! It’s funny that these student leaders have yet to realise the fact that how time and situation has changed and that the power of IQ, EQ and technology advances will erode them the opportunity to improve their future livelihood. We continue to fight our “so called rights” at the expense of taxpayers money without feeling any guilt while other races continue to dominate the academic lines with powerful knowledge that will “help” them to get through the harsh reality of the rat race in the cold corporate world. Ultimately, the nation needs a leader who can think for him/herself and make the wisest decision swiftly based on their experience and knowledge which cannot be gained overnight. Eventhough academic education does not automatically qualify your live successes, it definitely helps to have a solid one. My simple notion is: If student leaders can’t even excel in their course studies, what more on other grave issues concerning a nation? It is my sad observation that some of the new grads can’t even hold pressure working in large MNCs or even small corporations and cope with multi tasking (even with special incentives!)despite their brash comments on how to change the running of a government. So, buck up and polish on your future before deciding on others! We are definitely more useful when we know how to use our brain!!
Good day to you TUN,
Indeed, living in our country Malaysia, there are lots of sensitive issues beside religion.
What Bar council has mooted might not be wrong, however the timing and how the matter was conducted might not be appropriate at times we heard hot news almost daily.
Two issues we’re looking at,
1)do not touch on other sensitive issues of other ethnic group, and 2)the livehood of the next of kin or dependent (wife and children) of the convert
We Malaysian, we do not want do repeat what that has happened at the end of 60’s.
Since we brought up in a country with multi ethnic group with different religion faith we accepted that what are deem sensitive.
Wake up all, please look at the issue at different angle, under the assumption that no body is stopping any one from joining other religion faith and under the constituition law that, every Malaysian has freedom and choice of religion, Who will be taking care of those dependent or next of kin who fail to follow suit or convert to the other religion faith.
Please look at the issue objectively and come up with constructive solution.
We are bangsa Malaysia yang Boleh.
Wish you good health
Gambar khas forum tun di hotel crystal crown pj
http://bicarapenulis.blogspot.com/2008/08/forum-pertama-tun-mahahtir-yang-ku.html
Assalmualaikum Tun,
Terima kasih Tun atas penjelasan di atas. Sangat bernas yang tidak mampu dilakukan oleh pemimpin-pemimpin yang ada sekarang.
Apa yang Tun kupas dalam tulisan Tun berkenaan isu2 semasa selalunya memberikan kesan yang mendalam kepada kami rakyat dan melegakan keadaan yang tegang.
Penjelasan2 Tun ini adalah suatu sumbangan yang cukup besar ke atas rakyat dan negara kita. Tun selalu mengingatkan kami Melayu dan bukan Melayu yang selalu mudah lupa sejarah.
Semoga Tun dipanjangkan umur dan terus menyumbang kepada negara dan semoga Allah mengurniakan pahala ke atas Tun. Amin.
With regards to UiTM issues, it reminds me of USA 100 years ago, which they used to have “White” only schools/universities… sigh… our mentality are lagging a century behind…
Salam Tun… sebenarnya saya tak tau apa nak jadi dengan bangsa kita, bangsa Melayu sekarang ni Tun… Untuk pengetahuan Tun, saya bekerja di sebuah IPTA di ibu negara dalam bahagian pentadbiran dan boleh dikatakan semua pekerja di bahangian saya adalah Melayu, malangnya, majoriti mereka amat-amat ‘mengkagumi’ seorg manusia yg saya anggap ‘Si Kitol Zaman Moden’, anwar ibrahim.
Setiap hari telinga saya pasti ‘panas’ dek cemuhan yang mereka lemparkan ke ats sesiapa sahaja yg ‘mencubit’ anwar. Contohnya, pagi tadi (18/08), salah seorg dr mereka mengatakan bahawa angkat sumpah yg dilakukan oleh Saiful adalah taktik kotor kerajaan BN & polis yang telahpun diubahsuai(edit) sebelum disiarkan di televisyen.
Saya amat-amat kesal dengan pemikiran mereka yg seperti tidak bersekolah, walhal semua mereka merupakan pemegang ijazah.
Sedih dan risau dengan keadaan bangsa Melayu sekarang ni Tun….
Good day to you Tun,
We all indeed need to respect the religion of others, because we are citizen of a country which comprises of multi ethnic groups which have different religions faith.
Any future dialog(s) should be held close door, in order to prevent others to politicize the issues.
However, Tun, the real issue, I think we have to tackle is “Who will be taking care of the livehood of the next of kins or dependent (wife and children) of those that who do not follow to convert, I’m a bit of open here. The constituition guarantee freedom of religion, and here under the assumption that no body is stopping any body in joining other religion group.
I think government should play an important role, some one have to lead, some actions need to be initiated in order to determine and draw up certain guide lines or policies so that the sensitive issues on religion can be avoided and at the same time the livehood of those whom families do not wish to follow suit can be taken care.
Bar Council has initiated the move, however the approach and timing might not be right at this moment, almost every day we hear hot news. Lets look at different angle.
We live in a country with different ethnic group, different cultures but we are Malaysian, we can’t change facts of life.
I remembered, my daughter was representing a competition in a sporting event, participants from oversea from western (Mat Salleh) and orient (Taiwan & Jap) are asking us, where are you from. Our answer, we are Malaysian, our uniform bears our Malaysia identity, with our national flag stitch to it. Do you all realize we are bangsa Malaysia, why only in sport, be it in any thing.
We must realize, any confrontation towards any other races in our country especially towards our younger generation is no good, why government has been putting alot of efforts and resources in the past and at current especially in the national school level, with leaders and politician calling for the younger generations to foster a good and better relationships, understanding of others culture and support them with plentiful of programs (camps with leadership training and mixing of all pupils regardless of their race).
However, leaders who can forsee issues and problems, especially during the sensitive issues approaching are keeping quiet about it. Some were seen capitalizing this oppurtunities to make themselves famous during this period, by “Maximizing exposure”, the whole Malaysia and true Malaysian is looking at them like a bunch of stupidful.
We all went thru the difficult eras, during end 60’s, “Repeat no more” and with your wise thinking, TUN, please do some thing which can be beneficial to every one instead of saying this is sensitive and that is sensitive, a lot of people indeed know it’s very very sensitive.
The REAL ISSUE is those people (women and children) are crying for survival, who will be feeding them later. Please think as a man with responsibility as head of family, whose father the children and not taking care of them later. I called out to you ALL, please be rationale, these are TWO separate issues.
We are bangsa Malaysia, going to be 51 years old soon, prove to the world that we really can, NOT only by mouth, “JANGAN OMONG OMONG KOSONG SAJA”, tunjukkan kepada mereka yang pandang rendah kepada kita terutama dari SELATAN, kita BOLEH and prove them wrong.
We can think with rationale, can solve issues and problem in a man way.
Sebagai rakyat Malaysia, kita rasa boleh, tetapi kami memerlukan apa yang lebih daripada cakap, untuk mencapai matlamat MALAYSIA BOLEH, kita mesti dengan usaha bersama dari semua BANGSA MALAYSIA.
Kepada pemimpin yang amat ingin menonjolkan diri kepada dunia sebagai PAHLAWAN, anda memang boleh, jadikanlah anda HERO BANGSA MALAYSIA instead yang membolehkan negara kita terus maju ke depan.
Do you think possible?
BOLEHKAH TUN ?
BOLEHKAH PEMIMPIN_PEMIMPIN negara kami?
Salam Tun… sebenarnya saya tak tau apa nak jadi dengan bangsa kita, bangsa Melayu sekarang ni Tun… Untuk pengetahuan Tun, saya bekerja di sebuah IPTA di ibu negara dalam bahagian pentadbiran dan boleh dikatakan semua pekerja di bahangian saya adalah Melayu, malangnya, majoriti mereka amat-amat ‘mengkagumi’ seorg manusia yg saya anggap ‘Si Kitol Zaman Moden’, anwar ibrahim.
Setiap hari telinga saya pasti ‘panas’ dek cemuhan yang mereka lemparkan ke ats sesiapa sahaja yg ‘mencubit’ anwar. Contohnya, pagi tadi (18/08), salah seorg dr mereka mengatakan bahawa angkat sumpah yg dilakukan oleh Saiful adalah taktik kotor kerajaan BN & polis yang telahpun diubahsuai(edit) sebelum disiarkan di televisyen.
Saya amat-amat kesal dengan pemikiran mereka yg seperti tidak bersekolah, walhal semua mereka merupakan pemegang ijazah.
Sedih dan risau dengan keadaan bangsa Melayu sekarang ni Tun….
Salam Tun,
Kepada semua Bar Council Committee dan ahli-ahlinya, bertindak untuk hapuskan Ambiga ni daripada berkuasa. Orang macam ni tidak layak jadi orang Malaysia apalagi mewakili golongan professional. Tahap professionalnya kosong macam takde otak langsung…..Nampak sangat Ambiga ni lulusan kelas ketiga yang tak tahu hormat dan tiada adab sopan…Kelahiran Malaysia tiada yang sebiadap ini..Ambiga tidak layak berada di Bar Council….Gologan professional yang kurang ajar macam ni harus dihapuskan dan dibuang daripada negara ini kerana kurang ajar sangat….
When you play with fire, you must be prepared to get burnt. So, I have always said that democracy may or may not have its limits.
I view democracy differently. And this is my defination :
‘Do Whatever You Want To, As Long As It Does Not Offend Others’
Yes go ahead say what ever you like, do whatever you wish to. Its okay as long as you do not offend others.
I think in times when a country has a weak and questionable leadership, the unpopular support will surely translate to an increasing dissident voices. Unfortunately, certain quarters in the society will use this as an opportunity to push forward their hidden agendas in promoting their “cause” be it racial equality, justice or freedom of speech. They maliciously incite racial issues that will cause great harm to the society for the present moment and the repercussions of years to come. They use democracy and the freedom of speech as a banner of authority in justifying their insensitivity and insolence.
The problem I see in Malaysia is that the present administration is conveniently lenient to such dangerous people for hoping that “nicety” will provide a reprieve from its unpopularity. The danger is imminent and yet the leadership has no courage to do what needs to be done.
I don’t see what all the fuss is about here. In whatever society with multiple races and multiple religions, the key to progress and civilisation is tolerance.. in being able to discuss openly and accept others’ points of view, to be able to detach from one’s own sentiments and personal allegiances. When this can be achieved, then only we can say, that Malaysia has truly progressed. By avoiding the issue, we will always be pretending to ourselves. As such, I support the move by the Bar Council to address and debate the thorny issue. To date, we still do not have a clear indication on how to interpret and solve those issues. By surpressing their initiative to debate the issue, and move forward to at least proffer real practical solutions that had plagued some unfortunate citizens, we are merely sweeping them under the carpet and.. I am sorry to say that all the efforts we boast we have made since Merdeka was nullified.
salam Tun,
To Neil,
We know your true colours.you support George Bush and the invading superpowers,I am personally offended by your calling Iraqis muslim extremists.I WANT TO VOMIT WHENEVER I SEE YOUR HATEFUL COMMENTS HERE.
You are the perfect example of a small mind trying to impose yourself on a great leader.
Jeng3
Hi Tun,
Thank you for this article. I now understand what you mean by sensitive issues. I was feeling like one of the ignorant people who supported the bar council earlier but after reading your article, I finally understand. I would sacrifice anything to keep our beloved country in peace and multi-racial harmony. Thank you Tun for opening my heart, my eyes, my ears.
God Bless you Tun and family.
Dear Tun, I would be glad if you could comment on what is happening to the Malays now after March 08, 2008. I went to Permatang Pauh yesterday to have a look on the current situation prior to the election on August 26. The PKR or Pakatan Rakyat members seem to be incontrol and the UMNO or Barisan members seem to be hiding or afraid to show their existence. The Malays seem to be divided. One group seems to act violently. I am afraid this type of behaviour has been absorbed the Kampung people which was previously been seen only in KL.
assalamualaikum tun..
pada pendapat saya hak keistimewaan orang melayu tidak perlu dihapuskan seperti yang diminta oleh sesetengah orang baik cina, india dan melayu tu sendiri…
kita perlu ibaratkan dan jadikan hak istimewa org melayu sebagai keris…
apa bila kita boleh berlawan dan bersaing dengan tangan kosong maka xperlu kita gunakan keris tapi apabila keadaan memerlukan dan boleh menyebabkan bencana maka kite gunakan keris tu…
dengan ini kita bleh blajar untuk bersaing secara adil dan tidak ketinggalan seterusnya memajukan bangsa kita…dan kalau kalah pun tp membawa kebaikan its ok kerana kekalahan juga boleh menjadikan kita makin kuat… asalkan tidak membawa bencana dan keburukan…
bukanla bermakna Lin Dan boleh start game dengan 5 point free sbb dier bumiputera kerana itu sebenarnya tidak perlu…kalau die kalah pun xkan membawa bencana pada diri dia atau negara china… sebab tu die perlu bersaing secara adil… lainla kalau die kalah negara china akan jadi huru hara dan jadi perang kat sane.. kalau mcmtu xpela jugak die nak start 5 atau 20 point free…
sy percaya hak keistimewaan orang melayu bukanla penghalang kepada penyatuan semua bangsa di malaysia asalkan masing2 tau menghormati hak masing2…
p/s seronok bile kat kedai mamak tengok india melayu cina bersatu menyokong Chong Wei lawan Lin Dan
Just wonder why as a MUSLIM,Anwar and family and supporters BERMATI-MATI when Raja Petra,BAla and Dr Mynamar make a PERAKAUAN BERSUMPAH but accused Saiful a liar when he make a PERAKAUN BERSUMPAH WITH HIS GOD’S NAME?? Why?? Maybe he doesnt believe god’s way..
Tun,
I wonder if you have ever consider on the slightest possibility that a chain reaction on your view above might lead to an disunity within those who have not been mature enough to understand that there are wrong doers in every factions, and accusation not only on the individual but, the whole group itself will lead to something pretty nasty? As I can see that there are quite a number of people start to mention the May 13th incident and such. Hope you would not mislead the people here with a better specification.
Assalam Tun;
Saya setuju, harap few blogger yang kaput tu boleh terima…tak boleh pakai logik A, Logik B maka Logik C, Agama bukan boleh dilogik2kan, begitulah juga bangsa dan budaya…..dimana bumi dipijak di situ langit dijunjung …ASTORA ada faham ka…?
Anakteja – dah mula menjawab!
Tun Mahathir dan rakyat Malaysia yang aku kasihi sekalian.
As far as I’m concerned, Malaysian BAR is FUBAR (F#@!ed Up Beyond All Repair).
Sekian.
You have made a very good argument for your comments Sir.
But perhaps the readers who commented should tone down the racial sentiments a little.
God Bless you Sir.
HI Tun , izin tumpang lalu ,
Dear Anba ,
Appreciate the points but here are my little comments,
I think who got it wrong here when saying that TUN do not agreed on discussion of sensitive issues and at such no discussion can be held. In his original article , he is only do not agreed that the sensitive issues to be discussed in an openly manner such like in a forum.
On the NEP, it’s true that it was slightly loopsided but please do understand why it is created. However , I do agreed that it must be constanly reviewed to suit the changing enviroment.
Assalammualaikum Tun,
For many years the Malays have been an ‘accomodating’ race.
Malaysians too have been an accomodating lot.
We accomodate the whims and fancies of others.
We were humble and very forgiving.
Somehow, now we are becoming very sensitive and unforgiving.
In fact we are becoming more selfish and self centered.
I wonder whether the efforts for Integration is still ongoing….
Reading your blog is like having coffee in the morning…you just can’t do without it.
Take care Tun
Completely agreed with you TUN.
After reading all the comments from our fellow bloggers , I still 100% convinced that not being able to discuss certain issues openly is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country.
Dear all , to make a decision , one must know what is the objective of a decision being made. For me , Peace and Stability must be given the top priority.Please note that it is not that we can’t discuss the sensitive issue completely . The discussion must be made in an professional manners by responsible peoples who are experts in the related field .By having an open forum , it will only incites tension among races in this country. I do understand for those who are directly caught in the issues discussed here . However , just tell me one thing , what is the benefit of the open forum. What can we obtained ? We will never get a conclusion.We as the audience have no power to determine the conclusion. At the end ? what do we get apart from raising tension among the citizens as already proved by so many demonstration.
I do agreed that the problem must be solved but not by this way. Have the problem been solved ? NO!
So , I think it is a waste of time for Bar Council to have this forum . You can’t solve any issued from having a forum!If they are really sincered , then just organised a close discussion with the peoples experts in the related field and the law makers and come out with the best conclusion and implement it . This is how you solve a problem . Decision must be fast rather then sitting on the issue and just harping blah blah blah on it and waiting ” don’t know who ” to make a decision. This is the result of a poor and week goverment having no direction and as a result , we as the citizens of Malaysia are always kept wondering in the dark!
Lastly , for those who are for the open forum on sensitive issue , just tell me what do you get from the forum at the end of the day. Let’s face it , as civilised as we claimed we are , we are not ready yet for open discussion on sensitive issue in this multiracial country. For those who think they are matured enough , please do not imply that you are the sample of the whole population of Malaysian Citizen.Even the slightest commotion by minority will spark off into a bigger and bigger fireball and this is not we want in our country after 50 years of hard work of development.
Lastly , I do welcome any differing views on the above and make my own conclusion on my standing on the issue.
Dear all,
The name list given does not tell us all.
There are people who turned down the invitation because of external pressure ! Even if we follow the name list , out of 36 people attended , 9 belong to Malay.
Shall the Malay term these 9- Traitor ?
Majority of the people go against this forum just can’t have the wisdom our forefathers have !
When we fought for independence, every single force is our strength.Thus, our forefatehrs got the wisdom to give and take and compromise and created Malaysia.
Different races sworn to live in MALAYSIA regardless of colors , religions etc united and made it.
We built what we are now through the effort of all races.
With all of their blood and sweat.
Ho matter how lazy one race is-their are hard owrking ones.
No matter how good one race is – there are bad ones.
We choose the good for all.
It is a similar case in election or by election now in PERMATANG PAUH.
A wise politician – ( if any one go against the forum be this candidate )Will he wise enoguh to fight for MALAY and voice in public facing PERMATANG PAUH people ?
No one dares, because -deep in their heart, they knew, he needs all vote to make sure victory .A victory which must comes form all races.
Be a wise MALAYSIAN , taking care of all MALAYSIAN will surely win all people heart.
Deamang in peaceful way – cna always be settled in peaceful way if you disagree with it.
Violence is the cause of bringing up the heat of racial issue and deepen the gap among all.
Let’s think fo this simple logic.
Assalamualaikom Tun dan semua peminat dan penyokong TDM,
Sebenarnya saya menanti-nantikan respon dari Zaid Ibrahim sepertimana menanti sumpah DSAI berlandaskan islam.Kedua – duanya diam membisu.Apakah mereka ini dikategorikan sebagai PENAKUT.Nampaknya BC dan DSAI mempunyai kaitan yang amat rapat.Kata Datuk Shafie Abdullahm dipejabat beliau ramai DAP dan PKR.
Assalamualaikum yang amat dikasihi Ayahanda Tun Dr. Mahathir. Semuga ayahanda sekeluarga diberkati ALLAH SWT serta RASULULLAH SAW.
Saya tiada apa yang hendak diulas. Cuma inilah kata-kata saya buat pertama kalinya saya menyertai ruangan ini. “SELAMATKANLAH MELAYU DEMI ISLAM”.
Terima Kasih.
Asalamualaikum and Hello,
Usually, my approach of writings in blogs (and even in the real world) are more conscience (sopan) and with meticulous (hati-hati) integrity. Taking care of the sensitiveness. Unfortunately, for some non-sensitive Malaysians (such as the so called-proffesional body Malaysian Bar Council, HINDRAF etc.) these values are not valid for them. Arrogance, hate, greed … just pick your poison, its all there for consumption. These people are NOT PROBLEM SOLVER, they are in fact PROBLEMS itself.
I have come to the conclusion that IF (I pray to God it doesn’t reach to that level)… IF Islam and Bumiputeras rights are to be totally abolished or questioned, I suggest MAGERAN (read your history books) to be activated and the powers to be return back to the Sultan/Agong. Let them feel the full-fledge of Malay Supremacy and the Malay Army. We Malays/Bumiputeras have give ‘face’ too much to these ungrateful Malaysians. We will not turn Malaysia just like what happen to that small island of Singapore; its indeed a powerful economic island, and yet you don’t see any native people striving with equal rights for wealth over there. Its a one-race biased country, excuse me. You don’t call that a successful development. A real development will consists everybody in it, means all race should benefit from it.
I say, JIHAD against these heretics, lunatics and betrayers.
Wasalamz.
Dear Anba,
â¦Donât blame tun for his judgment and rationalization of discussing sensitive issues. But Blame the Malays for being such sensitive race that we will run âamokâ if Islam being challenge. Stop provoke tun on unfairness or for not being a true muhibbah leader, are lim guan eng muhibbah? Are majlis peguam muhibbah⦠anyway do you know what muhibbah is? May I ask, what do you expect from this country anyway?? Fairness for all races?? then 30% of Malay ownership shouldnât be enough; it should go up to 60% ⦠(donât forget, MALAY is a race too, not just Chinese & Indian, we are not invincible) you say its unfair to “deny” tertiary education opportunities for the non-Malay (ARE WE??), but statistics shows that if to add up the non-bumi studying at ipts + oversea + ipta it will be greater than the total of Malays students?? Owh… You say uitm are low quality… may I ask which private institution monopolized by the Chinese have been listed too?? Again donât blame tun on NEP, but blame the Malays for being denied opportunist by extremist racist Chineseâ¦
Tun already said he has tried his best to make good of this country, others are up to the Malaysian. Anyway what your contribution so far?
Regards
Dear Tun, God bless you.. I agree with your article on sensitivities in Malaysia and how important it is to Maintain Unity. Tun, to be sensitive in Malaysia, one should also be well versed with all the cultures of the people living in Malaysia.
I strongly feel that the Non Malays understant the culture of the Malays better than vise-versa. A Malays attends a kenduri of a non Malay, everstep is taken to see that the food served is Halal. But when an Indian (for eg) attends a Malay kenduri, this precaustion is not taken care of. Even food served during Government dinner ignore this and beef is served. Tun, this is only at Micro level. On the Macro, you are aware Tun, when the father (eg a Christian) converts to Islam, the family faces all sorts of problems because of the dual legal system in our country. This is what I suppose the Bar Council wanted to discuss. They wanted to just discuss the problem faced by NON MUSLIM FAMILIES after conversion. Nothing sensitive about it.. The government did not address these issues yet even though these problems had been highlighted to them a few times. THESE problems (faces by Non Muslims) are genuine and should be addressed.
Tun,mohon tumpang lalu….
Dear mecnz,
Adalah tidak adil menuntut orang melayu bersaing dengan bangsa cina yang telah mengalami revolusi dan jauh di hadapan dalam ekonomi ( bukan sukan!!)sebelum nenek moyang mereka datang ke Tanah Melayu. Begitu juga bangsa India.Semua yang datang itu buruh sementara nak dapat jalan… ramai juga pedagang!Mereka tidak datang dengan kocek kosong. Mereka datang dengan ilmu revolusi serta sedikit kekayaan berbanding melayu bumiputera yang ditindas oleh penjajah beratus2 tahun dahulu.
Untuk apa bersusah payah menjadi rakyat Malayisa jika nasib di Malaysia ini sangat malang? Carilah kehidupan yang lebih baik di tempat lain yang lebih adil di muka bumi ini.Tanah Melayu adalah tempat orang yang baik hati dan tidak tamak atau meminta2.
Memang orang melayu bumiputera berhak dibela oleh pemimpin2nya.
BIAR PUTIH MATA JANGAN PUTIH TULANG!
tun, mereka kata kalau kita tak bury status bumi non bumi, perpaduan takkan dicapai.apa pendapat tun?
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/rpk-whats-a-matter-with-you/
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/category/rosmah-mansor/
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/we-are-not-competent-enough/
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/the-conflicting-state/
Assalaamualaikum Tun dan semua para komentar..
Saya memang bersetuju dengan karlor~hiuno:on August 15, 2008 6:49 PM,pasal demo yang dibuat oleh pelajar uitm tu,saya pun emo gak tapi memang dah jangka la tu semua strategi pkr,nampak sangat kan,usaha dia orang berjaya nak buat org melayu mengamuk semata-mata nak pancing undi…tu lah kan…
Salam Tun,
An enlightening view. So much has been said lately about individual rigts,human rights, sensitivities and the need to preserve harmony. Issues pertaining to race and religion are issues that has its own boundary which should not be encroached. In a multiracial country like ours, it is best not to cause any provocation by purposely bringing up or challenging certain matters. What more to say debating sensitive issues openly. I do agree with Tun that we have to be sensitive and tolerant of others faith and beliefs. Yes we practice democracy but there are things that even democracy has to pave way in order to create peace and harmony. Is it democratic or right for os to encroach into someones bedroom in the name of democracy? Is it right for us to enter someones kitchen and savour all there is that they have because we are hungry? Well, we have travelled so far to achieve the status of a developed nation. Can’t we think like a developed nation’s citizen?
Dear Tun,
The subject that the Bar Council wants to discuss is pertinent be it sensitive. I believe the Bar Council wants to conduct the forum because the government of the day does not want to discuss the problem of the civil and the syariah laws. If the government had called for a closed door forum, inviting the relevent people, the NGOs included, the Bar Council would not have called for a public forum.
Good day.
Poh
Assalamualaikum, Tun.
Perbuatan mereka ini sememangnya ada agenda tersembunyi yang berniat jahat. Kenapalah nak dipertikaikan lagi kedudukan orang melayu dan agama islam yang sememangnya sudah termaktub dalam perlembagaan negara. Apa lagi yang mereka mahu?
Seperti yang Tun katakan, bila kita menyentuh hal mereka, dilabelnya kita sebagai ‘racist’ dan macam-macam lagi. Tapi bila mereka menyentuh pasal kita, apa yang sepatutnya kita nak labelkan mereka?
Saya ada juga terbaca artikel yang ditulis oleh juak-juak mereka berkenaan asal-usul orang melayu bertujuan untuk menidakkan hak orang melayu keatas bumi malaysia. Untuk apa semua ini. Bagi saya mereka sudah melampau dan merekalah yang sebenarnya ‘racist’ dinegara ini.
Jangan fikir mereka peguam, mereka boleh bertindak dan menyuarakan pendapat mereka sesuka hati kerana mereka rasakan mereka arif dalam perundangan dan dilindungi oleh undang-undang. Perlu diingat bila perkara sebegini tidak dapat dibendung lagi dan kemarahan orang melayu sudah hilang tiada satupun undang-undang dalam dunia ini yang dapat melindungi mereka dan pada jika ini berlaku siapa yang akan dipertanggungjawabkan? Yang pasti semua pihak akan rugi.
Kesimpulannya, peranan dan ketegasan pemimpin negara amat diperlukan dalam hal ini. Tapi ianya tidak akan berlaku kerana pemimpin sekarang hanya mementingkan kantung wang mereka. Yang peliknya dalam hal ini tak ramai pemimpin melayu khasnya berani untuk bersuara. Tapi kalau pasal perkara yang melibatkan Parti politik semuanya mahu berkokok tanpa mereka sedar punggung mereka dipenuhi dengan najis.
Keep going Tun.
Assalamualaikum Tun Mahathir,
Bonjour, comment allez vous,
I appreciate your comments on multi racial sensitivity of our beloved Malaysia. It is conveyed with full of wisdom and insight and it reflects the sentiments of a visionary leader.
Under the same breath we must find solutions to ensure that the Malaysian legal system can address the issues of reversion/conversion to Islam in an amicable manner . The current leaders seems to be at a crossroad(loss?) or what to do. May be the political leaders and their political advisors (which include their wives) should be guided accordingly.
We can draw attention to the different jurisdictions where there are multiracial and multi religious society. We have india and some middle asia countries like dagestan and tajikistan and many others legal system where we can learn from and assimilate into our legal system.
What I am experiencing in our current leaders when it comes to religious issues are:
1) Divide and rule
2) When they are cornered, play on the racial card and religious sentiment
3) Say something brilliant at the spur of the moment and conveniently forget about it later.THERE IS NO FOLLOW UP.
As I grew up under your stable and safe leadership tun, my wish is that my 2 daughters, 6 nephews and 5 nieces can experience the same.
I want my children to know what is it like to live in a safe Malaysia.
Right now we have a lot of constrctive work to do.
We need to know what are the issues on reversion or conversion to Islam is all about. Being over sensitive is not the answer. being open, transparent and honest is the answer.
Talking about sensitivity, even when the imam misread the verses of the Quran in the solat (prayer), it is wajib for the followers (ma’mum) to correct him or to remind him openly in the solat and not after the solat (prayer).And if the imanm refuse to correct the reading, the makmum have the right to disassociate themselves and the solat (prayer) from the imam.
to our political leaders, my humble unsolicited opinions are as follows.
Being sensitive without solution is like giving candy to a diabetic patient.
Being open and honest leads to self acceptance. And the first step towards finding a cure.
We dont need rhetorics. We need solutions.
Dont Tell us what you can do. SHOW us what you can do. or leave. with dignity. or whatever is left of it.
As a member of Malaysian Bar, i have this personal opinion about being a practicing syariah and civil lawyer.
God is very brilliant.
All the important organs in human body are placed in the middle.
Thus you find…
The brain in the middle of two ears.
The tongue between two sets of teeth.
The neck between the head and the body.
The heart between two lungs.
The reproductive organs between the two legs.
The doctor between the disease and the cure.
And the lawyer between truth and falsehood.
Personally, I feel the Bar Council is the voice of the conscience of all Malaysians.
Without fear or favour.
And I will do just that.
Continue walking in the path of saints Tun Mahathir…for the same Allah that permits you to breath, is the same Allah that will protect you. At all times..
Fii amanillah.
I wish to follow your footsteps, bi iznillah.
Adieu.
homme avec la rose
Ab alehsani
Salam Ayahanda Tun. Thereâs seems to be just too much hatred and unhappiness in the comments feedback section. Some people tend to believe that they are correct and proper at hurling those racial abuses and it seems that every bit of Tunâs preciously posted thoughts and expressions gets turned into racist comments and thrown back across our screens for all to see and feel. A few throw comments like there is just no tomorrow, carelessly hurting others, offending God knows who or where forsaking all that they have been thought, and for some its even just cheap thrills in front of the screen. If I look around me, I could see poverty that discriminates none. It discriminates not any by their religion, by their race or the color of their skin. For these folks, most probably they would be too busy working two or maybe even three jobs daily to put food on the table, to buy infant formulas and maybe to plug that tired leaky rusty zinc roof. What we put out here on the screen means nothing to them. It wont feed them that extra much needed mouthful, it wont do much good to them I guess. I apologize if I am beginning to sound holier than thou, kick me; I am just as guilty at times. On a new note, the holy month of Ramadan is approaching upon us once more. It is indeed a privilege for all Muslim to undergo the regime of Ramadan. What say you folks who reads this, that we somehow organize some kind of charity drive through this blog site to help the underprivileged children? Malay, Chinese, Indian, Kadazan all included. I think captain and others may have some further ideas on this. We could propose a communication channel, set up a collection center somewhere and later we organize a team to distribute the donations to the children. We can donate infant babyâs milk, beverages, clothing, shoes, toys, books, pencils, rulers, school bags, etc- but NO cash. Maybe even shoes for the school going children in Sabah and Sarawak who would often dirty theirs wadding though the muddy paths. Itâs just an idea, and I hope that it becomes a reality for the children. We can all put our differences aside for this I believe⦠or can we?
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us Ayahanda Tun. Best regards, Kamal.
Tun,
Jika Bar Council benar benar iklas tentu sebarang permasalahan yang di fikirkan perlu di bawa ke saluran yang betul tanpa menimbulkan kekecohan.
Mereka boleh membuat perbincangan dengan pihak yang terlibat dengan isu mereka dan kemudiannya memberi persidangan akhbar atau pun mengedarkan kenyataan mereka.
Sesuai dengan kata kata yang menyatakan bahawa lebih tinggi ilmu seseoarang maka lebih molek tingkah lakunya. Ijazah tidak bermakna pemegangnya berpelajaran. Tingkah laku dan tuturkata yang baik itu bukti sesorang itu berpelajaran tidak kira samada dia berijazah atau tidak.
Di dapati majlis peguam memperjuangkan gulungan minoriti sahaja tidak menyeluruh kepada rakyat malaysia umumnya. Perjuangannya tidak memberi faedah kepada keseluruhan rakyat Malaysia.
Pendekata perjuangannya hanya lah untuk jenis orang yang berkunjung ke ‘bar’ saja. Tidak kira ugama, bangsa dan keturunan. Asal semeje di ‘bar’.
Dear Tun and other commentors,
Sebak dan terharu melihat gambar Misbun menanti Lee Chong Wei dengan tangan terbuka dan bergenang airmata melihat beliau mendukung anak didiknya. Tiada siapa peduli apa bangsa masing-masing. Yang penting kita adalah rakyat Malaysia. Saya tidak pernah ragu rakyat Negara ini boleh hidup aman damai dan saling sayang menyayang. Cuma adakalanya kita lebih berminat untuk mencari perbezaan dan melupakan persamaan. Perbalahan beterusan mengenai hak keistimewaan dan rasa tidak puas hati antara satu sama lain tidak baik untuk kesejahteraan Malaysia secara keseluruhannya. Pemimpin dari semua kaum perlu bijak untuk menangani perkara-perkara yang berkaitan dengan isu-isu sebegini. Jangan biarkan sesiapa sahaja bebas bersuara tanpa mengambilkira faktor kestabilan negara.
Tun,
Apa pandangan Tun berhubung acara angkat sumpah Saiful. Sebagai ibu saya sungguh malu apabila ada antara ayat-ayat yang dikeluarkan menyentuh tentang kemaluan…aduhai, anak remaja ada disebelah..jelas benar pula sebutannya tu. Kenapa la tak tapis sikit ayat-ayat tu. Malu betul jadi Melayu. Bangsa Melayu dah Me-layu longlai.
To Indian, dont be so rude.
Luv U Always Tun. May Allah Bless U Always.
Ybgh, Tun,
Kita melayu ni dari dulu banyak bercakap je. Mereka sampai dah berani bukan setakad mencabar tapi dah hampir menewaskan kita, tapi yang kita pandai mengamok je, bertidak nya tidak. Majlis Peguam pun tahu, tindakan kita setakad menjerit je, apa kita dapat buat ? Yang menang mereka, kita takad lepas geram je, menang kampong tergadai, abuk pun tak ada.
Kita patutnya dah membiayai sekumpulan pengganas bawah tanah yang akan bertindak macam klu klac klan, orang melayu membiayai secara underground. Bila kita nanti dah jadi macam Iraq dah tak berguna. Undang-undang dah jadi sampah. Orang melayu pasti akan diperlakukan macam orang Iraq bila Cina dan Keling Malaysia dah jadi majority nanti, elok lah bertindak dari terlambat.
Senantiasa mendoakan kesejahteraan dan kebahagiaan Ybgh Tun.
Tun, adakah terlampau emosional sekiranya mempertahankan “Malay Supremacy/Lordship” (rujukan austozi on August 17,2008 2:44AM)? Mengapa memilih tajuk Memeluk Agama Islam yang dibahaskan oleh bukan Islam? Walaupun Perlembagaan dah jelas tapi sebelum ini pun ada cubaan mempertikaikannya. Siapa di belakang mereka ini? Jangan biarkan penyakit kecil merebak ke bahagian lain. Maaf sekiranya austozi tak sependapat.
For me this is one of the sign that other races are starting to NAIK KEPALA..we can talk all night about it but we Malay has to realise that it is now we unite and shape up…since a lot of businesses are controlled by Chinese, i hope Pusat Zakat/MARA can see this and groom more business people amongst Malay/Bumiputera. There are a number of industry in which Chinese are dominant and practices racial discrimination in terms of prices…so we need a body with big resources to tap into these..it’s a long way as chinese has been lliving in town/urban and gain control of businesses due to british policy but we have to at least try
and now i’ve tried to avoid buying at chinese-owned establishment. it’s hard but i’ve saved lots of money on facials, being conned during car service session…this is little steps to remind chinese that their busines is nowhere without malay being consumer (if only we malay can unite in this)
Also mentioned by the president of syarie lawyer in the paper yesterday is if the forum is meant to be fair, why not bring out a whole number of converts who find peace in islam and no problem.
ps: Pusat Zakat/MARA please stop bulding big buildings and start concentrating to build malays/muslims to be economically independent..i pay zakat every month but sad to see a lot Malays in Bersamamu TV3..i don’t know where the money goes
Salam Y. Bhg. Tun,
Pertamanya, saya amat menghargai lontaran idea yang cukup bijaksana berhubung isu sensitiviti dalam mengendalikan negara yang majmuk ini. Dalam apa pun situasi kebebasan ada keterbatasan, semua bebas beragama, bercakap,dan berpolitik namun adab dan tatasusila yang boleh menyinggung hubungan kemanusiaan adalah batasan semulajadi yang perlu dihormati.
Batasan ini terletak dalam diri kita sendiri, oleh itu setiap isu yang dibangkitkan perlu kita lontarkan dalam diri kita atas kesan dan buruk baiknya kepada masyarakat. Setiap isu yang timbul sudah tentu mencari pejuang atau Hero untuk membela, dengan itu sebagai badan profesional yang mendokong sama cita cita untuk membina negara yang aman dan harmoni, maka janganlah menjadi hero secara membuta tuli, kita perlu faham kesan dan akibat atas tindakan yang diambil. Oleh itu jika ingin berjuang, pastikan ianya membawa kebaikan sejagat. Kebaikan sejagat adalah hak mutlak masyarakat ramai, namun kebaikan mutlak belum pasti hak sejagat. Oleh itu sebagai rakyat Malaysia, berjuanglah untuk kebaikan sejagat dengan mendokong cita-cita meningkatkan keharmonian bernegara , bukan untuk menjadi juara dan keharmonian negara tergadai. Kita tidak perlu mencari pemenang dalam memperjuangkan isu tetapi menangani dengan bijaksana tanpa ketegangan. Lebih lebih lagi seketika waktu keadaan politik yang yang agak kurang mantap, oleh itu waraskan tindakan, agar kita dapat membina negara yang tenang dan bahagia untuk kita dan anak cucu nikmati bersama. Sayangnya jika negara kita yang indah dan keharmonian yang kita kecapi ini tergadai dengan sedikit noda yang kita tumpahkan.
Dear TUN
BRAVO on your blog.
It’s ashamed that some of those supposed ‘learned’ & ‘higher’ educated people who are supposed to defend & uphold the laws in this country at this present moment in time aren’t educated about sensitivity & common sense like the little common man on the street. It’s either ignorance or sheer utter arrogance on their part. I think it’s likely the later.
Very sad indeed.
Yang Bhg Tun, Assalamualaikum, semoga Tun dipanjangkan umur dan dirahmati Allah, Tun saya fikir the president of the bar council is ignorant of law and ignorant of malaysian sensitivity because she is typical “paria”…if she understand the sensitivity of the malaysian, this kind of forum wont exist.
Yg Bhg Tun, Dulu Tun jadi perdana menteri saya hanya dapat tengok Tun dari jauh aje…sekarang lagi susah dapat tengok Tun, saya ingin membuat permohonan untuk berjumpa dan bersalam dengan orang yang terlalu banyak berjasa pada diri saya dan seluruh tanah air ini…mungkin orang melayu mudah lupa hakikat sebenar kejayaan yang mereka kecapi tapi saya tak boleh lupa kegemilangan disaat Tun menjadi PM, saya tidak gentar untuk hidup di bumi ini tidak seperti sekarang, kami hidup dalam ketakutan, kezaliman pemerintah yang ganas dan rakus….saya mohon Tun…semoga comment saya Tun baca…alhamdulillh
Reply to jeng3:
Dear Jeng3,
Hi there. Thanks for your note. Your take on lawyers are understandable, although many lawyers ethics are questionable, but I’m sure there are lawyers who would uphold the constitution of their respective countries. Gandhi was also a lawyer, but raised his stature not from the law profession, but as a human being who wanted to set India free from the crutches of the British empire. Perhaps the non-Malays in Malaysia needs to set the principles set by Gandhi, Dr.King and Hendry David Thoreau as the fundamental prnciples in confronting this social and racial discrmination thrown towards the minorities in Malaysia.
I’m not a lawyer but someone who’s keen in debating and make changes in one’s life that will give them freedom. Without freedom, what are we?
Take care and God bless.
Anba
Reply to ‘mecnz’
Dear Mecnz,
Hi there. Thanks for your heartfelt comments towards Dr.Mahathir.
Appreciate your sincere comments.
God bless.
Anba
Salam Tun
Mungkin Majlis Peguam saja nak menguji tahap kesabaran orang Melayu dan Islam.
Mungkin Majlis Peguam nak tenguk sejauh mana orang Melayu dan Islam boleh bertindak.
Mungkin Majlis Peguam saja nak cabar dan tenguk apa orang Melayu dan Islam boleh buat.
Kalau Majlis Peguam nak tenguk apa orang Melayu dan Islam boleh buat, cabar lah lagi. Tak payah nak tunggu Pak Lah bersuara, kami org Melayu dan Islam sanggup buat apa saja…..
Di mana bumi di pijak di situ langit di junjung….
Take care Tun.
Yang terhormat Tun,
Bercakap pasal sensitiviti kaum ini, saya rasa kita orang Melayu juga seharusnya tunjukkan kepada mereka (bar council) bahawa kalau mereka tidak tahu sensitiviti kita maka kita juga boleh buat begitu terhadap mereka malah lebih teruk lagi. Kita lihat senarai yang rakan kita beri diatas tadi kebanyakan ahli bar tu semua nya datang dari lubuk yang sama. Mereka seharusnya bersyukur mereka tidak lagi tinggal di estet-estet malah sekarang dah jadi ‘lawyer’. Ini semua mereka dapat capai hasil dari murah hatinya pemimipin-pemimpin Melayu dan orang Melayu sendiri.
Inilah yang dinamakan beri betis mahukan peha!
Assalamu’alaikum YBhg Tun The MahaGuru,
To give a long thought why do so many ppl love you so much at the same time disliking you the same?
For me you are neither the chosen prophet nor in the club of them who were blessed with divine light. You are juz one ordinary human being living on earth in country called Malaysia. You have your success and your failure as well. You have been making trials and errors too. Attempts you made that you thought would optimise result found its doom to failure to the nation. Not all what you did during your premiership end in grand success. But then I remembered Abraham Lincoln. My guess, i thought ,were your approach and understanding toward Islam the religion that have been wrongly interpreted by many in this world particularly after 9/11, without regard to its contribution to human kind and world civilization both in spritual belief and worldly achievement i.e in science and mathematic, medicine, architectural evolution, philosophy etc was insincere. But then again , I remember hadis nabi saying that â islam bermula dengan keasingan dan akan kembali terasingâ. This present time, I strongly believe, is the time when we all look Islam strangely except by the people of âknowledgeâ. So Iâm not concerned so much either because that is prophesied by the book â al quran. It is so unfortunate in this period of time that we are all confused by so many things. Ironically the flood of information and scientific breakthrough speeds like never before as well.
So Tun, Iâm not so good in political game as wise as you are. How politic could become the need to our personal development and the society at large till when I gave up on my employment I knew better. I do know that politic create government. Then government essentially and naturally is expected to provide peace and harmony ,basic infrastructure at least but the best is always preferred that ease the living of the rakyat to make one enjoy a quality life without any fear to any kind of threat, to simply this most complex subject.
Survival and independence to achieve a quality life like everyone else regardless of race in this beloved country of ours make me think that politic is a necessary. If the government is seen as the people being given the responsibility to control the temperature level of a room occupied by us, then they are crucial people to make us feel comfortable. A slight mistake in controlling the temperature will make us living in suffering to the extent of death. Thatâs how I see it. If the people in the control room is busy looking after their own interest, the people living in the room is at stake.
Despite your weaknesses and imperfectness during your tenure of premiership, of course after closing my eyes running through the list, you are still the best among the best PM that Malaysia has ever had. We the people occupying the room feel secured and at peace against the uncertainty of temperature or any external pollution that may enter the room. Today we are not so sure any more and become concerned with the people being given the responsibility in the control room to protect us, the rakyat , occupying the room called Malaysia whether they are the most qualified people that we could depend on to put our live as the insurance.
After quantifying at the net result of the country, my salute is still with you Tun. Honestly, I âve tried a bit hard to look from the compartment of my mental picture hoping that the picture wonât be you.
Your wisdom and contribution makes us look small.
My pray is always for you, for us all. Amin.
Dear Tun,
I hope you would publish my comment because I think many readers have missed some very important points.
First of all, I wish to point out that the Bar Council did have legal and/or religious experts on the forum panel.
I quote: “The forum panel, to be moderated by Zarizana Abdul Aziz from the Womenâs Centre for Change, Penang, will include lawyers Ravi Nekoo, K.Shanmuga, Mohamed Haniff Khatri Abdullah, former Syariah Judge Tuan Dr Haji Mohd Naim Haji Mokhtar, and Institut Kefahaman Islam Malaysia (Ikim) Syariah Law Centre director Dr Wan Azhar Wan Ahmad, as well as five affected families.” (http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/family_law/bar_council_forum_on_conversion_to_islam.html)
Are former Syariah Judge Tuan Dr Haji Mohd Naim Haji Mokhtar, and Institut Kefahaman Islam Malaysia (Ikim) Syariah Law Centre director Dr Wan Azhar Wan Ahmad not expert enough? I thought they would be.
Also, the ratio of Muslim panelist to non-Muslim was 3:1. Surely it must be wrong to say the panel was represented by people of other faiths who do not understand Islam.
On a perhaps unrelated but relevant issue, I have never understood the need for the New Economy Policy (NEP). Would you care to enlighten me and the other readers on this?
1. The NEP was purportedly designed to narrow the economic gap between the poor Malays and the rich Chinese.
2. A reasonable assumption would be that not all Malays live in poverty. Similarly not all Chinese are rich tycoons. Poverty does not discriminate by skin colour.
3. In my opinion, if only we had had an economy policy that helped only the truly needy without discrimination on the basis of ethnic origin, the problem of uneven wealth distribution would have been solved quite effectively years ago.
4. In such a policy as described in (3), if all Malays were poor (that is to say if the assumption in (2) was false), they would all receive assistance from the state. By the same token, if all Chinese were rich enough to be disqualified from receiving aid from the state, then none of them would receive any assistance from the state. A colour-blind policy would achieve this.
5. On the other hand, if only 47% of the Malays were economically deprived (that is to say, the assumption in (2) was true), they would receive aid from the state, while the other rich Malays (53%) would be disqualified. Same goes for the Chinese, Indian, Kadazan, Iban, or Eskimo for that matter. A colour-blind policy would also achieve this.
6. Need, not ethnic origin, should have been the key criterium that determines who should receive aid from the state and who should not. In fact, ethnic origin need not have been introduced into the equation at all, nor whose great-great-grandparents came to this land first in the 1st, 7th, 15th or 21st century AD as we are all the sons and daughters of the Malaysian soil.
7. Because the NEP (and its successor), by design, has in essence ignored the truly needy but instead placed the emphasis on ethnic origin, it is a policy destined to fail to achieve its purported objectives.
I wish you good health.
Regards,
Austozi
Salam Tun,
Fully agree with your thesis Tun.We have to be realistic with the situation on the ground.Not possible to have discussions on sensitive subjects without putting our internal peace and stability on the line.We have to put in extra effort not to touch on the senstitivity of others in this multi-racial socities of ours.
Reply to ‘Indian’ and ‘Senjakala’
Dear Indian & Senjakala,
Among the many people writing in this blog, I consider both of you to have the true muhibbah feeling towards Malaysia. There may be other contributors to this blog, but both of your comments caught my attention. Indian, I can understand your anger as I can relate to the condition of the minorities in Malaysia. Senjakala, I’m guessing that you’re a Malay and thank you for voicing out our deeper greivances from the point of view of a Malay. It’s a Malay like you who can help to make the Malays who are too dependend on the government to realize the exploitation created through the NEP and other policies.
Thank you once again and please continue to write. The true impact of our views will take time to take root, but then we need to remember what Gandhi said about goodness,” Good travels at snails pace, and to impregnate people with goodness takes a long time”
May truth and justice set us free.
God bless.
Anba
Assalamualaikum Tun yang mulia,
Siasah adalah strategi dan rasanya orang tua-tua kita dahulu termasuk Tun yang mulia adalah bijak dalam mengatur strategi sehingga terbinanya Malaysia yang aman yang dikenali hari ini. Dalam mana hak-hak umat Melayu-Islam terpelihara, rakyat beragama lain bebas mengamalkan hak mereka.
Tetapi bila strategi diubah tanpa mengikut keadaan dan suasana sesuatu tempat maka kemungkinan besar, umat Melayu-Islam semakin tertekan. Contohnya mengikut suasana AS dan diterapkan disini, maka keputusannya tentulah memeritkan. Sebagaimana China yang tahu, tertutupnya Kerajaan Komunisnya tidak membawa pulangan yang baik, maka ditukar strategi negaranya tanpa mengambil keadaan ditempat lain atau menukar prinsipnya.
Khalid Al Walid adalah salah seorang wira utama didalam dunia Islam kerana kepintarannya mengatur strategi. Dalam peperangan Mutah yang mana diatur strategi agar pejuang Islam dapat kembali keMadinah dan mengatur seterusnya strategi lain dalam mana kedudukan pejuang Islam waktu itu adalah 3000 berdepan dengan 200000 pihak musuh dan ketiga-tiga panglima perang sebelumnya diwaktu itu, Zaid ibn Harith, Jaafar ibn Abi Thalib dan Abdullah ibn Rawaha syahid dalam pentempuran tersebut.
Dan sebegitulah seterusnya, kerana strateginya (dan tentunya dengan keizinan Allah semata-mata), segala pentempuran Khalid Al Walid selepas itu, dia tidak pernah mengalami kekalahan.
Semoga Allah merahmati Tun yang mulia dan menberi kekuatan pada Tun yang mulia membantu yang lain kembali menyusun strategi yang terancang, dalam mana hak-hak umat Melayu-Islam terpelihara manakala rakyat selainnya dapat mengamalkan hak-hak mereka dan seterusnya bersama-sama hidup didunia aman Malaysia.
Assalamualaikum Tun..may Allah bless your family and you forever..
Tun..you’ve done the best job to make our multiracial people remain peace in last 22 years. you also made, we as Malaysian to realize and care about our responsibility towards the country and also among us, the multiracial Malaysian..
but today, we can see that the peace build among us being destroy by a selfish who is thinking he’s the best and the right person to solve gov. problem..
father..please save us from this hell..please make our dream and also yours the “Wawasan 2020” become real..please do your best to stop them grab our future..we always by your side father..thanks father..
Assalamualaikum..
Tun,
I do not understand why there are many muslims out there trying to stop non-muslims from talking about Islam.
I was sometimes quite confused with many different interpretations of Quran by different muslims from different backgrounds and of different knowledge levels and of different understanding about Quran.
Just take for instance, in 1998 your interpretation on why Muslim women do not necessarily have to wear “tedung” when PAS youth leader accused your wife, Toh Puan Siti Hasmah, for not wearing “tedung” was that Malaysian men generally were not so easily being sexually aroused by women’s hair as compared to Arabian men. However, recently Raja Petra Kamarudin mentioned that only Prophet’s wives were required to wear “tedung” and all other Muslim women might not necessarily comply. Although both interpretations have the same effect and provide justifications that whether Muslim women should wear “tedung” is optional and depends on the choice of individual, I am curious why Muslims have different versions of interpretations about such Islamic custom.
I had been to Abu Dhabi and a Muslim friend of mine who lived in Abu Dhabi for about 30 years told me that in Abu Dhabi Muslims are allowed to drink liquor in hotel although liquor is prohibited at home. Some Muslim friends of mine in Malaysia told me that a Muslim can drink liquor if he thinks that he knows himself. I believe an open discussion on this kind of dispute about whether drinking is allowed by Islamic standard may help both Muslims and non-Muslims to understand better about Quran.
Many non-Muslim Malaysians would also like to know whether it is accurately interpreted that a Muslim is forbidden to marry a non-Muslim if this non-Muslim refuses to convert to Muslim. I believe in Middle East countries, the interpretation on the marriage between Muslim and a non-Muslim would be different from what we know in Malaysia. We need an open discussion to find out the truth in Quran.
A religion of all mankinds should be able to sustain whatever test being put onto it by various different circumstances. I wonder why some Muslims have so much taboo to talk about Quran openly! Don’t you agree that a good message from the Almighty should reach out to every human so that more and more people would be blessed by the wonderful sermon from Allah’s messenger?
Onlooker
Raja Petra Kamarudin’s article is attached for reference:
Inventing new religious rituals
Posted by Super Admin
Sunday, 17 August 2008 13:58
How valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam? Apparently not, according to Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, Abdul Hadi Awang, Nik Aziz Nik Mat, Dr Haron Din, and the host of other Islamic scholars regarded as authorities on Islam by most Malays
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
Mahathir dares Anwar to swear
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad has dared Pakatan Rakyat leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to swear on the Quran to prove he is innocent of the sodomy charge he faces. He said Anwar should do so just like his accuser Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan who had sworn upon the Quran that Anwar had sodomised him. âAnwar should also be doing the same thing, instead of just giving ceramah everywhere, to prove his innocence,â Dr Mahathir said.
Referring to Saiful’s swearing on the Quran at the Federal Territory mosque here yesterday, Dr Mahathir said it was the former Anwar aideâs way of proving he was not lying when he alleged he had been sodomised by the PKR adviser on June 26.
Dr Mahathir said that as a figure on the Malaysian political scene, Anwar should act in accordance with public sentiment that he said, required that he give a sworn statement pertaining to the sodomy allegation. However, the action would be considered to be just a good political gesture because Anwar himself had to provide legitimate evidence to prove that he was not guilty in the matter.
Terengganu Mentri Besar Datuk Ahmad Said said Saiful did the right thing by swearing upon the Quran. âIt is to demonstrate that he was telling the truth. I congratulate him for his courage,â he said.
Former PKR Youth chief Mohamed Ezam Mohd Nor said it was not easy for Saiful to do what he did. âIf I were Anwar, the next thing Iâll do is to go to the mosque and prove my innocence. The legal way is not enough.â
The Muslim Consumers Association of Malaysia said in a statement that Anwar should respond to Saiful’s latest move. (Bernama)
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âIâve done this for God and I took my oath in the house of God, that I was humiliated and sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim and I do not wish to lie to the world as he has doneâ – statement by Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan after swearing on the Holy Qurâan at the Masjid Wilayah at Jalan Duta yesterday, as reported by Malaysiakini.
Err, Saiful, you did lie to the whole world yesterday.
Saiful was asked by a reporter to explain how the timing was so close to nomination date for the Permatang Pauh by-election.
Saiful replied: Itâs all a coincidence. We donât know that Anwar is going to contestâ¦
Yet, on 2nd August, Malaysiakini reported that in a posting in Saifulâs blog on 1st August, âSaiful also briefly wished Anwar âgood luckâ in contesting for the Permatang Pauh by-electionâ. (http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/sai-full-of-lies/ )
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So, finally, Saiful has sworn on the Quran that Anwar buggered him, against his will. I suppose any 61-year old man with a bad back who can force himself on a 23-year old man who is bigger and stronger than him should be strong enough to become the Prime Minister of Malaysia. This demonstrates how strong Anwar is, physically, and that he is certainly nowhere near over-the-hill. Mentally, of course, no one has any doubts that Anwar can out-think the sharpest cookies. They will literally foam at the mouth in any live debate with the incoming Member of Parliament of Permatang Pauh.
Nevertheless, how valid is this swearing on the Quran, which Saiful conducted in the Federal Territory Mosque? Does such a thing exist in Islam? Apparently not, according to Perlis Mufti Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, PAS President Abdul Hadi Awang, PAS Spiritual Leader Nik Aziz Nik Mat, PAS Deputy Spiritual Leader Dr Haron Din, and the host of other Islamic scholars regarded as authorities on Islam by most Malays. Anyway, even before Saiful pulled off his little circus stunt, and even before these scholars commented on the spectacle, I had already said that there is no such thing in Islam and is the act of deviant Muslims.
Let us reflect on what happened about 1,400 years ago when Prophet Muhammadâs wife, Aisha binti Abu Bakar, was accused of adultery with Safwan bin Al-Muattal. According to popular and accepted Islamic history, the whole incident happened as follows:
Aisha was travelling with the Prophet and some of his followers through the desert and they had stopped to camp for the night. The following morning, when she discovered she had lost her necklace, Aisha left the camp and went to search for it.
No one realised she had âbroken ranksâ and the caravan packed up and resumed its journey. When Aisha returned to the campsite, she found that the caravan had left without her. There was nothing she could do but to sit right there and wait, in the hope they would realise they had left her behind and come back to fetch her. But they did not return for her because they did not realise they had left her behind.
Later that same day, a young and handsome Arab man named Safwan bin Al-Muattal came along and spotted Aisha sitting all alone in the desert. Though he had never met Aisha before, he immediately recognised her as one of the Prophetâs wives because of the tudung that she wore. It seems, in those days, only the Prophetâs wives wore the tudung to distinguish them from the other women.
Apparently, the tudung was âdecreedâ for only the Prophetâs wives and not for all women. Anyway, that is another topic for another time as, today, we wish to talk about Saiful swearing on the Quran and he does not wear a tudung, yet.
Safwan rescued Aisha and took her on his horse to chase after the caravan. It was when the caravan, again, stopped to camp for the evening did they realise that Aisha was missing. But there was nothing much they could do because it was about to get dark and looking for Aisha somewhere in the desert in the middle of the night was just not viable.
It was not until the following morning that Safwan and Aisha caught up with the Prophetâs caravan. The scene of Aisha returning to the caravan with another (young and handsome) man triggered rumours that she had committed adultery with Safwan. The Prophetâs enemies immediately spread the rumour faster than a special report on Malaysia Today could ever have done.
Prophet Muhammad never doubted Aisha. Nevertheless, he called for a family conference to discuss what to do and his adopted son, Zayd, defended Aisha. Ali, his son-in-law, however, felt that a Prophet canât afford to be the target of rumours, especially one involving his wife, and he suggested that Prophet Muhammad divorce Aisha.
Aisha steadfastly proclaimed her innocence. Muhammad felt very troubled by the whole matter and it is said he left Aishaâs house and did not return for many days. Aisha was the Prophetâs youngest and favourite wife who is also the daughter of his most faithful comrade, Abu Bakar, who went on to become the First Caliph of Islam after Prophet Muhammad died.
Aisha was devastated. Shortly after that, Prophet Muhammad announced he had received a revelation from God confirming Aisha’s innocence and directing him that adultery be proven by four eyewitnesses, rather than simply inferred from opportunity (The Quran Surah 24:4). Prophet Muhammad also rebuked those who had slandered his wife (The Quran Surah 24:11) and ordered them to receive forty lashes, among them his poet Hassan bin Thabit.
So there you have it. Prophet Muhammad did not ask Aisha to swear on the Quran in the mosque that she is innocent and did not commit adultery. And neither was Safwan, who was accused of âpenetratingâ Aisha, also asked to swear on the Quran in a mosque that he had kept his pecker in his pants at all times when he was alone with Aisha. In fact, those who made the allegation were instead punished.
We must also note one very important point. The Quran, in the book form that we know today, did not exist yet at the time of Prophet Muhammad. It was Osman, the Third Caliph, who compiled the Quran into the book form that we know today, long after the Prophet had died. That is why the Quran is sometimes referred to as the Osmania Quran. Before that, the Quran was etched on pieces of tree bark and animal skin with the bulk of it memorised by hundreds of companions of the Prophet.
If Aisha had been asked to swear her innocence on the Quran, then they would have had to recall all the pieces of tree bark and animal skin from all over the Arabian Peninsular, plus they would have had to assemble the hundreds of men who had ârecordedâ the Quran in their heads. These tree barks and animal skin, plus the hundreds of Quran memorisers, would then have had to be lumped into a huge pile in the middle of the mosque and Aisha would have had to place her right hand on this mountain of men, tree barks and animal skin with her left hand raised to the sky as she swore her innocence on the âQuranâ.
According to Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar, this is what constitutes âreligionâ:
âIf you are to write on religion, then you are supposed to touch on matters pertaining to:
– questions on rituals,
– adherence to God,
– followers and
– anything related to your divine mission.â
Okay, it is interesting that this âArabâ has spoken out on what constitutes âreligionâ. Most Malays believe that âSyedsâ are descendants of the Prophet and, therefore, would be the most qualified to talk about Islam. But is it not strange that this Arab âdescendant of the Prophetâ does not mention that corruption, fraud, wastage of public funds, abuse of power, racism, discrimination, persecution, injustice, and many more are also abhorred by Islam? Islam simply detests all those things perpetuated by the government and upheld by Umno.
The government and Umno do all those very things that Islam is against. Islam makes it mandatory for Muslims to oppose the transgressors of Godâs commands. Muslims who do not oppose it are considered very weak Muslims who are accessories to these crimes. There are no two ways about it. Muslims who keep silent are endorsing these crimes. Islam is very clear about this matter. Nothing any Arab who pretends to be a descendant of the Prophet can say will change this.
Oh, and one more thing, Saiful also swore that this swearing ceremony, one day before the Permatang Pauh Nomination Day, is a coincidence as he did not know that Anwar was going to contest the by-election. Hmmâ¦..is Saiful prepared to also swear this on the Quran? Earlier he had wished Anwar good luck in the Permatang Pauh by-election. Talk about making a mockery of Islam. Have I not always said that the Muslims are Islamâs greatest enemy? You still want to dispute this or can I now rest my case?
Dear Tun,
Kesilapan telah berlaku. Semua berpunca daripada AAB yang kononnya cuba mengamalkan konsep keterbukaan,,, tapi sebenarnya gagal memahami bahawa konsep yang dibawa oleh barat ini sebenarnya hanya merosakkan kestabilan negara kita. Bukan semua yang dibawa dari barat itu baik. Saya rasa amat susah untuk kita sekarang kembali mengawal keadaan seperti dahulu sebab sebarang sekatan yang dikenakan akan dikatakan sebagai menyekat kebebasan bersuara, sedangkan mereka tak sedar yang “kebebasan” yang mereka mahukan ini boleh memusnahkan negara kita. 50 tahun adalah satu usia yang muda bagi sebuah negara yang komposisi kaum masih lagi menjadi duri dalam daging. Tersalah langkah….semua orang boleh hilang “kebebasan”. Pada masa tu dah terlambat dah…
Salam Ayahanda Tun,
Mereka dah lupa semangat perjuangan yang dulu,terima kasih kerana mengingatkan!
Semoga Tun dan keluarga sihat selalu..
dear sir,
once i admired your for your wisdom and courage. but after seeing so many comments from you, i was totally disappointed. there are questions that i would asked:
1- why when non-malay asked about our rights as a malaysian (and not as a chinese, india or etc), we were being ‘shootdown’ for playing with the racial cards?
2- why when malay asked about their rights as a malay (not muslim since there are muslim bumiputra who is not malays), they were being supported as they are fighting for their right although they kept saying those racist remark?
the bar council might be wrong but that does not mean that you are right either. please Tun, be more considerate and fair to us……or in malay “Tolong munasabah lah Tun”.
your vision of 2020 is now ruined and we are going back, and for apartheid, u condemn others but u supported it in your own country. sad for you and sad for malaysia
Dear Ayahanda Tun..
PLEASE READ MY COmment..Wishing u good health always.
I AM TRUELY PROUD OF U AS ONE OF OUR MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER..
All these while, u have done extremely well in the progress of our dearest beloved country. MEASAT, KLIA, Putrajaya..sistem meritokrasi (just to mention few of these) were some of the achievements. I am a student from local university and I want to let u know that, I am so proud of u. I always wish I could meet u personally. Ur eyes of vision really inspire me. U are a true leader!!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Apa pula pendapat Tun tentang perhimpunan haram, demonstrasi?
Apa bezanya demonstrasi menghalang forum majlis peguam tempoh hari, dengan perhimpunan BERSIH?
Begitu juga tunjuk perasaan pelajar UiTM,HINDRAF,reformasi,malayan union..yang mana satu dibolehkan dan yang mana pula diharamkan?
Memang kadang2 kalau sesuatu isu itu menaikkan kemarahan kita,kita rasakan sesuatu demonstrasi itu memang perlu.Seperti isu majlis peguam tempoh hari, kita rasakan yang berdemonstrasi menghalang forum tersebut sebagai ‘hero’..tetapi undang2 tetap undang2 bukan begitu?sesuatu perhimpunan tetap memerlukan permit…
Saya buka memihak kepada sesiapa,tetapi perkara ini perlu dijelaskan. Undang-undang perlu dijalankan tanpa mengikut isu.Ini soal keselamatan negara.
Terima Kasih.
Saya tetap mengagumi Tun.
KolejSultanAbdulHamid, alma mater.
Salam Ayahanda Tun,
Untuk `mecnz’ hang kalu tak puas hati kat negara ni pi berambuslah.Boleh ke taiwan atau singapura bagi tender ngan org melayu..jawatan dlm kerajaan pun belum tentu..jawatan tingilah bodoh..
Ada satu lagi pertikaikan cara saiful bersumpah..kalu salah pilah tunjuk cara yang betul..ada beranika angkat sumpah..hahaha tarak berani bukan..hahaha(sebab ada sikit2 kene mengena kot)cakap sapa pun boleh cakap 50 kali konon..padahal takut..adapulak ulamak politik cakap tak betul..abis apa yang betul..pi tunjuklah perbetulkan..org tu pegang al-quran disamakan bible.gila punye olang
Yo Mahdey… Anwar dah dekat nak bertapak ke Putrajaya… hang nak migrate negeri mana??? Elok rancang laa… sebab nanti takut tak sempat…
Salam Tun.
Today in a press conference, Dato Muhammad Shafie Abdullah labelled RPK as a liar, coward and a pariah.
Well he’s right and so does PKR.
RPK=PKR: Liar, Coward, Pariah and …
Dear Tun,
I was your great supporter, however i was sad to see today Malay still don’t reliase who was the great contributer to the Modern Malaysia as we can see today. Beside you as our Prime Minister for 22 years, the Malay should also must remeber the non-malay were the great tax payers (90%) in which the previous government could be able to development the nation and at the same times to give away huge allocation to bumiputra to improve themself.
What happens to our nation without the non-bumiputra today? Can Malaysian especially the malay still enjoy the so called ” Hak-Hak Istimewah Melayu ” ? Where will the government to get this huge fund to give away to them ?
We can see how inefficient the malays in the goverment and private sectors, they were there because of this so call ” Hak-Hak istimewah Melayu “. They are not really good and the places should reserve for them, that was why malaysia was lost to a small country like Singapore. I am ashame of it since our country was full of resourses and man power, we lost because the Malay did not dare to improve themself as they knew they are entitled to all these even they do not have to do anything.
We were shouting ” Merdeka Merdeka Merdeka ” every 31st August since 1957, are they malay really understand the meaning ? The real menaing of the work ” Merdeka ” are merdeka from their lazy attitudes, the cemburu attitude, want to get easy task, want to grab from what belongs to others without doing anything, their sensitiveness and etc.
Malaysia likes a big family in which the three major races are brothers and sisters, the differen was the non-malay was have to work hard to earn enough in order to give away to the Malay who do not need to do anythings. Tun, if you were the non-malay, could you be happy living in such kind of family ????
The non-malay mouth was sealed and can’t even raise anything but the malay can say anything even to threaten the non-malay with ” Keris “. The March 08 election spoke for itself, we non-malay love to live peacefully in this country and we never had any intention to belittle the malay or their religion but we were alwas got the blame even with small commen.
The best students from the non-malay never got the chance to head any government agencies or any important position. I don’t understand how could Malaysia be a developed country if that was what the leaders of this coutry want.
Should the malays can follow the Japanese especially after the Word War II in 1945 whereby they even humble themself and went to learn from the west (The American)until today we can see who they are in the world.
Please reply me TUN, i want to hear from you soon.
Thanks
Salam Tun,
I can’t help it after reading some of readers comments.This is 21st century but malaysia people mentality going heywire (short circuit)%*@#####?//.The world is changing fast,people are progress in all fields but We(Malaysian)all are going reverse gear.Some of them said that send back chinese and Indians to their origin place.WOH !!!What a fanatic mentality!Let me tell one things,in order to send back chinese and indians back,you need to turn tne clock back.Means you have to call back UNITED KINGDOM(orang putih)to do the country administration because they’re the one who responsible in bring in chinese and Indian to develop this nation hundred years.If you can’t ,then its better for you to fly kites.
I’m really sad because this nation already lost the direction,people’s are self centred,they forget every success of it’s success of the nation.Let us cheer for Chong WEi victory tonight!Hidup Malaysia Hidup Malaysia Hidup Malaysia!!!
Tun,
Many things you did right, such as north south highway, not letting your sons actively involve in politic when you are in power ….
But there are also many things you do them wrong :
Having this blog is one good example for you are making Malaysia splits further . All of the mistakes you make because you think you are Melayu more than you think yourself as muslim.
being an important Muslim leader, I am particular surprise why you did not use you influence to rectify the issue on “converted people leaving Islam” … why care for only small numbers who leave Islam after conversion, this should be normal. You should have said “lets make Islam a 2 ways religion for non Muslim, …” I believe there will be more people tried and become Muslim than leaving Islam. It is indeed big sin for you as muslim who has no confidence on Islam which make you make any actions/excuse to stop people from leaving Islam, …. dont you think so ??? Hope you can do something ….
Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
To Ketam Aug 17:
Amok like sampan & keris are unique to people in Malay world.Malays are famous for their courtesy,respect,humble,soft spoken and even the only race use to use pantun,kiasan,bidalan to express themselves.Unfortunately these has been perceived as weakness and taken advantage by others,ie colonials from Portuguese,British,Japanese.Sarang tebuan jangan dijolok.especially Religion.
Wassalam
Salam Ayahanda dan rakan-rakan
Permit me,
By abhsaa on August 16, 2008 10:36 AM
To Ambiga & Co,
“Don’t ever challenge the Malay Supremacy/Lordship.”
Dear abhsaa, this is a racist remarks and an insult to Malays in general. First of all Malays were never a supremist race. If we were, than there would not be any Chinese or Indians in this lands.
If we were a supremist race, all Malays will be acting like what the Nazi’s did during World War 2. There would be a Tanah Melayu Auschwitz. Right after gaining independence the Malays would have rounded up all Chinese and all Indians and sent them to concentration camp where incinerators would be waiting for them.
Furthermore, Islam which is the religion for all Malays forbits this kind or behaviour. Islam teach us moderation, compasion, to be kind and mercifull.
Lordship? Since when did Malays practices the caste system? Do we have rich land owners where people live and work for them and call them My Lord? My Lady? The word ‘Ketuanan’ does not mean ‘Lordship’.Ketuanan Melayu’ is about ‘Ancestral Lands of the Malays as a whole’ and not as ‘Masters of other individual’. Something that we malays have never practised.
So please do not use the word Supremacy and Lordship when commenting something about Malays.
The issue being address here is regarding the arrogance of the Bar Council and their insensitivity. Their actions sparks anger and frustration amongs the masses. This will lead to unwanted incidents and soon will endanger National Security and Public Safety.
Salam ayahanda dan rakan-rakan
paiz
Salam Tok Det,
Every type of government, be it democracy, fundamentalist, monarchy etc has their own effect to the social and economic development. Nowadays, democracy is viewed as the best form of government for human kind because the westerns are adopting it, and apparently they raised economically & scientifically and thus become super power. Maybe thatâs the effect of democracy if practiced in western countries. At the same time, in the name of democracy they also accept homosexuality (and somehow infested âyou know whoâ). To cut the story short, maybe the effect of democracy, is to encourage free flow of thinking among the people which contributed to the development of social, economy etc (whether positive or negative). But it may not be the best form of government.
Tok Det,
During your time, the result of our development is NOT because of democracy. There are special formula founded by you that was not understood the current government. The flow and stimulation of thinking is not because of democracy but because of your formula or because of you (I donât know). As for the Bar Council, they think, by managing the lawyers they can manage a country. They have to wake up, refocus on their job and realise that their ability to speak now is also due to your formula.
Tok Det,
I salute you.
Sanggupkah kita benarkan China bagi advantage 5 mata kepada Lin Dan kerana dia “Bumiputera” bumi China dalam perlawananan akhir nanti? Not fair!!! Boooooo…
Bolehkan pelari 100m Greece mula dari 20m sebab Greece adalah pengasas Olimpik? Mungkin dia boleh dapat no.2 jika diberikan keistimewaan itu. Tapi tempat berapa dia akan dapat kalau lari dari mula seperti pelari negara lain?
“Keistimewaan hanya diminta oleh yang lemah, dan akan menjadikan mereka lagi lemah” , fikir-fikirkan lah..
Salam,
I did not read the whole comment and just happen wanna filled out some comment from our friend here and if they happen to be coming back maybe they can get the answer the left in this comment section.
Shah :
The 2 country u mention, I’m not bashing these 2 country they have their own system and I must say their system work best for them and not for us Malaysia. For appertizer let me say these 2 country is a republican.
1) Indonesia, in not sure what’s the ‘real’ freedom u talking about this country.
2) Singapore, I’m quoting from a journalist down-under. “Singapore is just a over-glorified city council.” Do they really have opposition? How do they treat opposition?
In Islamic teaching, converting to Islam or to another is not a child’s play. We are free to talk about it, come forward and ask from our Ulama or Preachers, there are willing to talk to u about it. Invite them to give a talk about it, the preachers are willing to give they teaching even if u don pay him any.
Ur cook story, I just going to say that, I’m going to stop the Cook if I saw him using bad food or his kitchen place is dirty or he have a bad habit of cooking while screwing his nostril. and as addition, when I order my meal, I can only see the menu. I’m taking risk of ordering the food. The food may taste good, it can also be un-eatable. Also, I can choose the Cook and whatever I cook taste good.(at least to me)
solcroft:
when u talk about accommodating to sensitives, it must be when Q.E on official work meeting with the Saudis. Its like I’m only wearing boxer inside my house when I’m alone but I will wear my cloth outside of my house because i am accommodating to the sensitivities of my neighbor. What I do during my alone time, stay out of it.
hati.malaysia:
for this case, I don’t care about Malay right. It is about Islam. Why must u have a forum where u invite people to share their stories of how terrible their life in handling the case of dealing with the Shariah laws but you did not invite anyone to talk about ‘Converting to Islam’ by Ulama or Preachers. which happen to be the title of your forum?
no and no, we not talking about Malay right. for that UiTM case, no, that is not for the betterment of Malays, it is politics talking, betterments is when something cannot achieve anything, and ASAIC, UiTM has achieve its objective.
others: did not read.. got to work on sunday.. this is just my breaktime
Hi Dr,
Wishing you good health. I note your comments on sensitivities. Your gave the comparison of the consequence of wearing a mini skirt in obviously Saudi Arabia and to guess the consequence. That is the root of the problem. Everyone knows how backward the Saudis are. So there is no question about their insensitivities, but in our case ie in the Malaysian context the sensitivities are always changing. What is allowed today is not allowed tomorrow. What is secular today is Taliban tomorrow. 10-15 years ago a Muslim convert could go the high court and renounce Islam and go back to being say a Christian but now they want to kill him for apostasy! They are creating sensitivities by the day! Their sole purpose is to prevent anything that can cause a reversal to what they have been implementing quietly in the state assemblies. Forbidding things that non-Malays and even Malays have been doing for so long such as kissing your wife in public etc. An open forum or discussion is one such place where the legal and logical reasoning of the constitution could prove them wrong. They don’t believe, as do even their opponents, their interpretation of Islam will stand up to scrutiny. They are afraid of that plain and simple! Rgds.
Dearest Tun,
I am not an expert on English Language, just so and so . My Bahasa Malaysia is also so and so. I always use dictionary when I am not sure about a certain word. I know that Bahasa Malaysia is new compared to other languages but what I do not understand is why the work ‘amok’ is taken by English Language to describe ‘unruly behaviour or a violence committed by an animal or human being. Why English does not use word from other language to describe the action of ‘amok’ . Is it true that Melayu Amok is so bad that no other society ‘amok’ like Malay do. If it is the case, I hope that Malay will not mengamuk in the future… if not all of us cannot fathom what will happen.
Thank you
Dear Tun,
The Bar Council are naive. Maybe they are also hypocritical. If we want to provoke them, sere is my suggestion.
Why do lawyers need to be registered with the Bar Council before they can practise law? The Bar Council just becomes an elite organisation. They are even protected by Law. According to the Legal Profession Act, all lawyers must be a member of the Malaysian Bar before they can ptactise law. Why?
Can we have State Bar Associations like in the United States which are all independent of each other? Or do away completely with the Bar altogether. As long as a lawyer has a recognised law degree, he should be able to practise law without having to become a member of the Bar.
Or better still anyone who feels he likes to do so, should be allowed to practise law. You do not have to pass a law degree before you can practise law. I never went to law school but I can draft legal contracts. With some diligence I can even conduct cases in Court.
In the first place membership of the Bar Council does NOT in anyway add to a person’s capacity to practise law.
Let my Clients decide if I am a worthy lawyer. And here is something really strange : you are allowed to defend yourself, without a Lawyer being present, in a Court of law where you are the accused or you are the defendant. So the law (and the Bar Council) does recognise that a non Bar Council member can conduct cases in Court – albeit only to defend himself.
So why do we need a Bar Council in the first place?
As an elitist association the Bar Council exerts monopolistic hegemony over the Legal Profession. They are infringing on the rights of the individual.
So if the Bar Council is really serious about human rights, then let anyone and everyone practise law without the need to become a member of the Bar Council first.
I am not saying that the Bar Council should be disbanded. No I will never say that because that would infringe on the right of the Bar Council to organise itself so. But why force other legal practitioners to join the Bar Council? That is infringing on people’s human rights.
salam Tun,
When you see a snake and a lawyer…ooops sorry!I’m at it again…
salam Tun,
To bunnies,Anba,juicysaucy,Asvocalasyou and others like-minded,
As I mentioned in an earlier post;
“Your points are relevant but there must be better ways and channels to discuss these sensitive matters.The Bar Council itself is shadowy and dominated by certain groups of people with their own views and agendas.
The Bar Council,you are trying to unravel the kinship of this country by trying to tackle too many issues at one time,as if taking advantage of this flip-flop government and weak leadership.Please be more sensitive in the future as you are now viewed suspiciously by many people”.
You see,YOUR POINTS ARE RELEVANT!It’s just that the majority of us don’t believe in lawyers honesty..(hehe sorry,can’t resist the temptation..I suspect some of you,Anba maybe,must be lawyers)actually many of us don’t trust The Bar Council.
THINK OF OTHER WAYS THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE TO ALL RACES.IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
p/s – sorry can’t help myself…somebody’s atuk mentioned earlier’All lawyers will go to hell’..sorry lawyers…hehe…The Bar Council should end up behind bars….ooops sorry!there I go again..
Jeng3
Salam TUN,
We are in the 21st century now, histories should be archived,
should learn from past to implement improvement to all sectors.
History is a sort of guidance for future to follow,if wrongly studied it may invite bad event to occur but if corectly executed it may bring peace, prosperous and many more.
History is history, Malaya Is Malaya, Malaysia is Malaysia.
We want “perpaduan teras kejayaan dan kemakmuran”
Asalamualaikum bapak….
bosan bosan bosan benci benci benci dgn keadaan la nih…
silap2 leh masuk tanjung rambutan nih….
hehehheheeee…takto nih kali keberaper duk on/off blog bapak nih…
serabut otak ceq nengok calon pp..nasib baik tak duk kat situ…
sahih ceq tak p undi….bendera putih dah kibar dari 1hb july..
ceq censorang gak yg duk kibar dr dulu sampai la ni….
seme2 org duk cakapcakapcakapcakapcakapcakapcakapcakapcakap…
tulistulistulistulistulistulistulistulistulistulis..aihhhh…penin2..
masa depan makin suram..sian kat anak2 sedara cucu sedara…nasib baik ceq bujang..ilang serabut sket….kat sini seme duk kata mt2 jaga pewot sendiri…bloggers pun sama gak..kibar bendera pun tak nak..tau komplen2 komplen2 komplen2…susahlah kalo duk berharap jer…..ish2..ish2…go2 bapak go…..maaf hangin 10 badan…wacaaaa..
ASSALAMUALAIKUM TUN,
RIGHT ON TUN, YOU ALWAYS STOOD TALL!!
Pada saya, Majlis Peguam ini merasakan mereka sahajalah yang berhak membicarakan isu-isu perundangan yang menggunakan bahasa serta terma sofistikated yang sukar difahami oleh rakyat kebanyakan.
Just remember, this is a multiracial country in which sensitive issues with regards to Islam is very dangerous to be discussed openly, especially by non-muslim or those with shallow knowledge in Islam.
Tun… please take care.
Oh my god..first time dgr tun ‘mencarut’
Hehe.
“I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country”
That explained a lot!!
Thx Tun!!
HALOOOOOOO,
SELAMAT PETANG KEPADA TUN DAN SEMUA YA,
KAT SEKOLAH CIKGU AJAR ” BERSATU TEGUH, BERCERAI ROBOH”
BYE,BYE, SEE U LATER,
P/S: TENGOK TV1 8:40 MALAM NI, LEE CHONG WEI & LIN DAN
Tun, Anba tells straight to the point what non-malays probably felt. Read again his posting and ask yourself whether you are the true leader to all Malaysians, with your sincere heart?
Assalammualaikum Tun & family
I am so sick with the Bar Council. Bar Council has created uneasy to the Muslim when they agree to hold that dialogue session pertaning to Islam. Who do they think they are ? They are not muslim organisation neither they are muslim.
As such Bar Council has created uneasy among muslim which can lead to chaos. Fortunately the Police intervented smartly to reduce the high tension otherwise Bar Council building may end up with fires!
Some of Bar Council leaders are well known proxi to the DAP. I think the time will come when they will nominate Karpal Singh as High Court Judge.
Only you Tun Mahathir has the guts to critic Bar Council activities. Even you may not have laws degree, you easily can differiante what are the limit of rights Bar Council should have.
I am so sick with the Premier which before hand noticed the dialogue but do nothing to prevent it. What is his intention of doing nothing? I think the Premier want to garner support from the Malay and Muslim by teaching them a lesson for not voting BN in the last General Election. He let the non muslim to play the music he chose. He would said that he cannot help adjusting the act since he has lost two third majority in Parliament. I dont know but I feel the direction is going that way.
assalamualaikum tun! (sambil tabik hormat)
hoh! i never know this side of you before although i claimed that i truly understand some of the controversial decision that you has made in the past.
but you today, as someone who no longer represent the name of Malaysia Prime Minister, yet defined yourself in a new way as ‘pejuang bangsa dan agama’ in this highly sensitive multi-racial country.
banyak telinga-telinga yang panas mendengar mahupun mata-mata yang pedih membaca namun saya lihat isu yang dibawa tun dalam hal berkaitan yang ini adalah sangat benar dan sukar disangkal mana-mana kaum.
kita tidak merdeka dengan mudah, kan tun? walaupun saya lahir di zaman pasca merdeka, tapi berdasarkan pengamatan terhadap kisah sejarah serta membuat andaian logik, saya tau ia bukan mudah. nak meyakinkan orang yang kita mampu memimpin negara, serta mampu pula menjaga hak asasi setiap kaum tanpa perlu mempersoalkan keistimewaan penduduk asal tanah melayu iaitu melayu dan bumiputera sendiri, bukan kerja senang.
‘hak untuk menjunjung demokrasi’ ini dimanipulasikan sesetengah pihak atas alasan dunia yang semakin maju dan mahu mencontohi negara-negara lain. di sini yang saya rasa nampak silapnya pendekatan mereka itu.
apabila tun membuat sesuatu perancangan, tun tidak melihat akan hasil di negeri orang sebaliknya tun meramal hasil di negeri sendiri berdasarkan statistik semasa, bukan? kerana itulah kita di hari ini dapat melihat kejayaan perancangan-perancangan besar yang dibuat tun berpuluh tahun dahulu dalam usaha untuk memajukan negara.
alhamdulillah, kita sudah lalui setengah abad kemerdekaan ini dengan cemerlang walaupun ada 2-3 calit peristiwa hitam yang tak dapat kita jangkakan dan elakkan.
namun apa pula cerita hari ini? jauh menyimpang dari pendekatan asal yang dibawa pemimpin-pemimpin negara terdahulu termasuk tun sendiri. di era ini, terdapat satu entiti dalam ambang kebodohan yang masih egoistik untuk mendabik dada mengatakan mereka pemimpin yang disegani.
disegani kerana kuasa yang dijanakan oleh rasuah, penyelewengan, salah guna kuasa. bukan disegani kerana hasil kerja mereka yang efektif dan optimum pada skala nasional.
perlunya kesedaran (yang sebenar) ini dipupuk semula dalam minda rakyat agar faham akan kepentingan untuk kita sama-sama menjaga keharmonian, kemakmuran dan perpaduan masyarakat majmuk di negara kita.
wallahu’alam…
.
TUN,
Zaman Pak Lah ni, apa yang TUN buat tak kena…
MV AGUSTA tak bagus , di jual dengan 1 Euro.
WW dengan Proton tak bagus….
TAPI,
GM (USA) dengan Proton bagus…
SCOMI(Pak Lah & Son) cita nak miliki PROTON ??..bagus…
sekarang ni…
MELAYU JUAL MELAYU..
MELAYU BESAR BUNUH BISNIS MELAYU KECIL ….
MELAYU GADAI MELAYU…..
MELAYU TIPU MELAYU….
MELAYU “MAKAN” MELAYU….
…..DAH SAMA MACAM YAHUDI….
YAHUDI SANGGUP JUAL DAN BUNUH YAHUDI
UNTUK: PAKSA YAHUDI MIGRATE KE AMERIKA.
YAHUDI SANGGUP TIPU DAN BUNUH YAHUDI
UNTUK: PAKSA YAHUDI PINDAH KE ISRAEL(1948)
YAHUDI SANGGUP TIPU YAHUDI
DENGAN MENGUBAH KITAB TAURAT NABI MUSA A.S.
YAHUDI SANGGUP MAKAN YAHUDI
DENGAN ANTI-SEIMATIC YANG MEREKA CIPTA SENDIRI.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan
isteri.antimamak
.
.
TUN,
Zaman Pak Lah ni, apa yang TUN buat tak kena…
MV AGUSTA tak bagus , di jual dengan 1 Euro.
WW dengan Proton tak bagus….
TAPI,
GM (USA) dengan Proton bagus…
SCOMI(Pak Lah & Son) cita nak miliki PROTON ??..bagus…
sekarang ni…
MELAYU JUAL MELAYU..
MELAYU BESAR BUNUH BISNIS MELAYU KECIL ….
MELAYU GADAI MELAYU…..
MELAYU TIPU MELAYU….
MELAYU “MAKAN” MELAYU….
…..DAH SAMA MACAM YAHUDI….
YAHUDI SANGGUP JUAL DAN BUNUH YAHUDI
UNTUK: PAKSA YAHUDI MIGRATE KE AMERIKA.
YAHUDI SANGGUP TIPU DAN BUNUH YAHUDI
UNTUK: PAKSA YAHUDI PINDAH KE ISRAEL(1948)
YAHUDI SANGGUP TIPU YAHUDI
DENGAN MENGUBAH KITAB TAURAT NABI MUSA A.S.
YAHUDI SANGGUP MAKAN YAHUDI
DENGAN ANTI-SEIMATIC YANG MEREKA CIPTA SENDIRI.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan
isteri.antimamak
.
Salam Sejahtera untuk Tun Dan Keluarga.
Tun terus kan perjuangan Mu kami tetap menyokong.
Pak Lah Undur Lah.
Pak Lah mesti bertanggung jawap apa yang telah berlaku.Waktu Tun memimpin serbi serbi teratur. Ternampak kesatuan sesama kaum,tetapi sekarang apa dah jadi.Bagaimana Wawasan 2020 akan tercapai kalau begini. Kami memohon Pak lah undur lah dengan secara terhormat.
Tun jaga kesihatan Mu.
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
I am sorry for using your blog to a comment posted by Amba.
To Amba, please don’t talk or argue about something especially about Islam if you don’t have knowledge or expertise about it. Do you know misinterpretation and conflicts in society always come from people like you who talk because you just want to talk. Not more or less. If you don’t know please learn from who knows. Arguing or debating during the learning process with your teacher is healthy as long as it being carried in polite and respect manner.
Thank you.
Tun,
I understand your concern that some of your fellow Malaysians seem to be insensitive to other peoples ethnicity and religious convictions. However, by insisting that subjects considered to be sensitive, can only be discussed behind closed doors, aren’t you are running the risk of people not discussing anything?
I attended a public function last year on the IDR. There were several hundred students from a Johor University present.
When the speakers asked for questions. The students were silent. The teachers asked the questions.
I understand that the students felt uncomfortable asking questions. It does seem a shame.
Were you an unquestioning wallflower when you were a student?
Thanks for making yourself available!
John Mansfield
Bilo la den nak jadik comentor yang pertamo ni….. Asyik tak dapek yo.
http://www.kami-horsepower.blogspot.com
penuh informasi…
Salam Tun… teruskan perjuangan walupun dirimu keseorangan… krn kbenaran bukanlah dinilai melalui ramai @ ckit…
melalui brape sumber, insyaAllah BN menang dlm plihanraya permatang pauh, insyaAllah. Ini bukanlah mellui kate2 org politik yang mane setiap kate2 mereka MUNGKIN terselit tujuan politik. Tapi cam ner pon doa2 banyak.. semoga dari kalahnye PKR kat permatang pauh akan membantutkan rancangan 16 september PKR… pastu leh lah Tun teruskan perjuangan Tun..(klu elok Tun jd PM !)… salam…
Salam Tun,
Right on! Take that sucker (the bar council)!
Assalamualaikum Ayahanda Tun,
GO GO GO Ayahanda Tun. Saya sokong Ayahanda 100%.
Anakanda Audi
Assallamualaikum…
buat Ayahnda yang tercinta….
Tun…dah 3 hari saya tunggu Tun untuk menulis tentang UITM…
adakah Tun bersetuju?
saya betul-betul teringin nak mendengar pendapat Tun
Salam Tun&fellow bloggers,
Perhatian pada Majlis Peguam,solcroft,kaychin,2now,bangsamalaysia,isaac,brian tseng, macamanalah aku nak terangkan pada korang pasal DOSA,SUBAHAT,MURTAD..contoh
1.murtad hukumannya mati/diperangi
2.tukar agama bukan semudah tukar baju
3.dosa manusia pada Allah tak boleh diampunkan oleh manusia eg confession
4.Islam sebagai Agama Rasmi,seperti Kristian di Britain ‘override’
5.Belajar sejarah la.Konflik agama/kaum normal
6.Kesatuan dalam kepelbagaian
7.No such thing as open discussion.menang jadi arang kalah jadi abu!
8.Kebebasan bersuara memang tak wujud dimana2 di dunia.eg kalau aku mencarut/maki mak/bapak kau,mesti marah kan?
9.Tak boleh menang semua,tak boleh kalah semua.majoriti rule
10.Bar Council please behave.ada org kata semua lawyer masuk neraka,please proof me wrong..
Wassalam
Assalamualaikum Tun.
Pada pandangan saya,apa yang diminta oleh majlis penguam ini adalah jaminan keselamatan dalam Islam.Tidak semua non muslim tahu bahawa Islam itu adalah adil.Pengetahuan yang terhad.Dan ini menjadi tugas alim-alim ulama untuk menerangkan dan mempraktikkan dakwah Islamiah kerana non muslim pun sudah minta.Apa Islam boleh bagi?
HIKAYAT SERIBU SATU MALAM
Seorang kawan saya pernah bercerita.
Ipar perempuannya adalah seorang keturunan Cina.Mempunyai dua anak.Suaminya peniaga sayur-sayuran di pasar.
Kelihatan pada lima tahun pertama perkahwinan amat membahagiakan.Tetapi entah bagaimana,mungkin kerana perubahan dasar ekonomi, pendapatan perniagaan semakin mengecil disebabkan adanya pasar tani setiap minggu dan kerana banyaknya aktiviti penjualan bahan-bahan tani akibat dari dorongan kerajaan.Pertanian adalah perniagaan.
Sedangkan dengan ilmu perniagaan yang tidak cukup dan masih dibuai oleh pendapatan lima tahun lepas yang amat lumayan,si suami tidak dapat menerima hakikat bahawa kadangkala sebagai seorang usahawan kecil dia perlu berkorban minat untuk berniaga kerana keadaan tidak mengizinkan.Persekitaran ekonomi telah berubah.
Maka terjadilah peristiwa-peristiwa yang mendesak sampaikan terpaksa meminjam dari along semata-mata untuk memuaskan hati untuk terus berniaga.Sedangkan mengapa tidak boleh bekerja?Itulah pandangan dari pihak isteri.Pastinya terjadi sorok menyorok tentang perkara ini daripada ahli keluarga.
Maka sampai pada tahap kritikal hutang tersebut telah mencecah kepada RM60K.Hinggakan peminta hutang telah menerjah rumahnya dan rumah ibu bapa.
Tetapi kerana pegangan dan kelurusan ibu kawannya tadi yang dia sendiri tidak dapat sangkalkan,maka selesailah masalah yang bersilang-silang itu.Ibu.
Dan kawan saya itu sebagai abang sulung terpaksa menggunakan kebijaksanaannya untuk mengatur strategi menenangkan keadaan peminta hutang dan melukakan hatinya sendiri untuk kebaikan bersama demi menjaga hubungan kekeluargaan yang berlainan agama,akidah si ipar, perbezaan budaya serta asuhan keluarga.Kerana itu adalah hak seorang mualaf untuk hidup.Walaupun ada sedikit sebanyak janjinya yang mungkin tidak akan dapat ditunaikan dalam masa terdekat.Tapi takpe la….abang sulungnya hanya berpura-pura garang tak bertempat.
Perkara yang sama saya terbaca di akhbar baru-baru.Tapi itu tidak nampak sangat kesannya kerana kedua-dua yang telibat adalah sesama bangsa.
HIKMAH DAN KESIMPULAN HIKAYAT SERIBU SATU MALAM
Sedarlah wahai non muslim,apabila seseorang Islam menjamin keselamatan kamu,maka seorang Muslim itu tidak akan keseorangan kerana ramai lagi Muslim lain yang kamu tidak kenal selama ini akan menanti kedatangan musuh bersama-sama kamu.Dan salah seorang dari mereka akan berkata ‘Biarlah dia datang.Datang pun bagus jugak.Biar jumpa dengan orang macam kita’.
We don’t need another 13 May 1969.
Terima kasih Tun.
Adakah Topik ni sensitif juga?
Racism to Satanism
1. If anyone thinks as a Malaysian at heart you will never support any of the current political parties who speaks only about championing or protecting their own race and religious interests. Whether it comes from UMNO, PAS, MCA, MIC, PKR, Gerakan, HINDRAF, PBS, DAP, PPP or whatever new name, itâs called racism and whoever supports that party is called a racist. It is no different from apartheid. It dirties and poisons your soul.
2. Those who are racists but speak with a fork tongue (Jeyklls), hiding it behind other causes like religion, meritocracy, education, poverty, social reengineering, ethnic rights etc are even worse than self declared racists and can only fit into the category of Satans.
3. Malaysian racists and the MSN have corrupted the following words which meant differently in other countries example – nationalism, patriotism, royalists, freedom, liberty, corruption, democracy, humanity etc.
4. Power, Greed, Selfishness and Racism rule in Malaysia and now we include Satanism.
(Versi Bahasa Melayu)
Sifat Perkauman kepada sifat Setan(Syaitan)
1. Jika sesiapa memikir sebagai rakyat Malaysia di hati, anda tidak akan menyokong parti-parti politik sekarang yang cuma bercakap tentang ketuanan atau pembelaan bangsa dan kepercayaan ugama mereka sendiri. Samada ia datang daripada UMNO, PAS, MCA, MIC, Gerakan, HINDRAF, PBS, DAP, PPP atau sebarang nama baru, itulah maksud perkauman dan sesiapa yang menyokong parti tersebut dipanggil seorang rasis. Ia tidak berbedza sangat dengan aparteid. Ia mencemarkan dan meracuni jiwa anda.
2. Mereka yang rasis tetapi bercakap dengan lidah bercabang (Jeyklls) dengan menyembunyikan di belakang alasan ugama, meritokrasi, pendidikan, kemiskinan, kerombakkan social, kepentingan pribumi dsbnya adalah lebih teruk dari seorang rasis yang diketahui umum dan harus dikategorikan sebagai Setan.
3. Rakyat Malaysia yang rasis dan MSN telah mencemarkan perkataan-perkataan yang memberi maksud lain di negara-negara asing seperti â nasionalisme, patriotisme, penyokong Raja, kebebasan, kemerdekaan, korupsi, demokrasi, perikemanusiaan dsbnya.
4. Kuasa, Tamak, Kepentingan diri dan Sifat Perkauman bermaharajalela di Malaysia dan sekarang kita memasukkan Sifat Setan.
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we are bangsa malaysia are we…….. If Tun Dr Ismail, Tun Tan Siew Sin are still alive, they will feel really disappointing for what their have been working on our multiracial culture long time ago.
I Feel like there was non of our malaysian are remembering those two heroes even their name in this day. Malaysian people and politic are hopeless to find someone to lead the country just like yourself and Tun Dr Ismail coz the spirit of multi racial in malaysia are gone in the year of 2003. We really miss u Tun
I Hope that u will brought up topic about Tun dr Ismail and yourself soon in the fighting against building a multiracial race foundation in malaysia………..
May god Bless U……..
Ahmad Najimi..
KLMU Student 1st Year
negara malaysia kita dah cukup aman & stabil dengan undang2 yang ada cuma ada hero yang sengaja porak-porandakan negara ini.
jika ada yang tak bagus & susah hidup dimalaysia maka datuk nenek keturunan india & cina dulu dah lama balik kampung.
amalan agama dimalaysia adalah bebas kami islam ikut tuhan kami kamu ikutlah tuhan kamu tetapi kamu tidak boleh halang @ menyusahkan orang yang mahu masuk islam.
oleh kerana negara ini negara islam kamu kenalah ikut undang2 islam sesiapa dah masuk islam maka mereka tertakluk kepada undang2 islam dinegara ini.
negara ini mengamalkan islam yang sangat toleransi dan sederhana,tetapi jangan cabar perintah tuhan kami jika tidak akan muncul golongan extreme yang bakal bersama2 anda merosakkan negara tercinta ini….fikir2lah,lihatlah apa yang terjadi di bosnia.
Dear beloved Tun, you are very right to say that non Malay have their share of sensitive topics such as Chinese School . If we Malay organise a forum on the benefit of so called Chinese School in Malaysia , will the Chinese be sensitive. Even when we follow the Malay traditional ritual such as kissing the Keris in a function in Umno convention have raised a hoo huh ( havoc) in the Chinese Community .So we hope the non Malay NGOS will not cross the border or test the water. Malaysia Boleh ! http://www.ezineartikel.com
i am dealing with the british. i am proud to say that they are using my service,malaysians service. better than other countries. even if there are some flaws, you know i have to always keep myself in positive manner to succeed. everytime they ask where are you from..? i am proud to say that i am from malaysia. and some of them say brilliant. and they remember my name. some of them say they never talk with an asian before. i dont care if my supervisor ask me to speak english in british accent. they are dealing with malaysians so they have to listen to my malaysian english. i am just being me. i am unique. when some of them say “i dont want to speak with asian”. i dont take it offensively. i dont blame them for being too conservative. i am an adventurous type. i am thrilled to change their negative perception to positive. an english man came to malaysia said that malaysians still living according to their own races. i have noticed that since in high school. and i wonder why, because this situation happened in urban area. the mentality of the malaysians who are living in urban area is more advanced. it is unfair if some of you say that happened because of the mentality of the malays. when i make friend with a chinese, my malay friends said i have forgotten my own race. same thing happened to my chinese friend. she told me that some of the chinese friends said same thing to her. she was afraid and i felt frustrated. she also said that she will feel strange if she is the only chinese among malays. our weakness is due to our negative mentality no matter what race we are. i’ve been listening and understand the non-bumis struggle. how they said that the malays got alota advantages but dont know how to appreciate. i too cannot sacrifice my rights. i dont wanna be like “lalang”. i have my own principles. i dont wanna get curse by my nenek moyang. i cant change the world and history, i only can change myself. if you say malays are lazy so i change myself being a hardworking person. if you say malays cant speak proper english. i can speak english although not so proper at least i try. practice makes perfect, right. i am glad that we have alota holidays here in malaysia. we need some rest after working too hard. if everyone wants to be a doctor then who is going to be a farmer and a fisherman. if the chinese dont want to work with the government and are good in business then let it be. all we need to do is coorperate and compromise. if everyone wants to work with the government then who is going to open up business. you know like supermaket, shopping complex and groceries. because malay is the majority we need to support the minority without sacrificing our rights so we buy what they sell and make them rich. i learn japanese. of course i will feel frustrated if my japanese friends speak english with me. but i also cant force them to speak japanese because they also want to learn english. i feel proud when my indians or my chinese friends ask me “you faham ker apa yang we all cakap?”. everytime they speak using their own language when it comes to gossip part i will smile because i understand a little. i also feel proud for them when they have a sense of awareness by speaking some english and malay when i am the only malay among them. all of us need to understand the give and take balance. it is not easy to understand how the world works.
Tidakkah Tun berasa sakit hati apabila membaca komen-komen yang berbunyi “Don’t ever challenge the Malay Supremacy/Lordship” (abhsaa on August 16, 2008 10:36 AM) dan “tanah yang depa ni pijak adalah hak Melayu” (cucu tok wan on August 16, 2008 10:42 AM). Inilah mereka yang terlampau emosional dengan mengeluarkan perkataan berbentuk rasisme tanpa berfikir. Merekalah sebenarnya yang mengucar-kacirkan negara ini. Merekalah sebabnya kita masih tidak berkemampuan untuk mengadakan perbicaraan secara terbuka dan matang, kerana merekalah yang sengajakan reaksi yang ekstremis terhadap apa-apa sahaja isu yang ingin dibincangkan.
Kenapa isu forum majlis peguam tersebut dikaitkan dengan isu perkauman? Yang dibincangkan adalah implikasinya terhadap institusi keluarga dari segi undang-undang apabila seseorang yang tidak beragama Islam memeluk agama Islam. Tidak sekali pun isu perkauman ditimbulkan di forum itu tetapi ada juga antara kita yang sanggup mengapi-apikan isu perkauman ini seolah-olah hak mana-mana kaum sahaja dipersoalkan. Kalau ada hak sesiapa pun yang dipersoalkan, itupun hak ahli-ahli keluarga yang terlibat secara terus dalam kes sedemikian sahaja. Forum itu tidak menyentuh isu perkauman ataupun mempertikaikan status Islam sebagai agama kebangsaan Malaysia.
Yang Berbahagia Tun,
Thank you for your piece which is an important reminder to all of us to be sensitive about the feelings of other races which make up this country.One of the reasons we are so successful is the fact that we learn to be sensitive and happily live together and progress as a nation.
However, with the freedom now available,the bar council is behaving like as if it is an opposition political party with the rights to question anything and everything.I hope they will hear what Tun has said and refrain from inciting potentially sensitive racial or religious issues that could lead to creating racial tension in our country.
If members of the bar council are still not happy with the freedom they enjoy and still think that we have no free speech, human rights etc, they dont have to look far.Just go to Myanmar or to China and see if they will have the slightest chance of surviving there.
As always Tun, our love and support is behind you.God bless!!
a multi racial country living in harmony is what i seek. But the present Govt seems more keen to increase the agenda of only one community.
Dear Dr.M,
I believe these are the ‘Asian Values’ that you have been advocating.
This is an excerpt from your wikipedia entry(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahathir_bin_Mohamad):
During his term in office, he was credited for engineering Malaysia’s rapid modernization and promoting non-individualistic “Asian values”.
Below is an excerpt from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_values)
A summary list of ‘Asian Values’ would include a distinctively ‘Asian’:
1. predisposition towards strong and stable leadership rather than political pluralism;
2. respect for social harmony and an inclination towards consensus as opposed to a tendency towards dissent or confrontation;
3. acceptance of broad and penetrating state and bureaucratic intervention in social and economic affairs;
4. concern with socio-economic well-being instead of civil liberties and human rights; and
5. preference for the welfare and collective well-being of the community over individual rights.
Keep up the good pieces Dr. M. I truly enjoy reading your posts.
TUN,
I am opined that you have steered off course.The BC merely wants to clarify certain aspects of the issue on “Conversion To Islam”.Their desire to hold the forum is to eliminate grey areas so that the judges,lawyers couples directly involved and their issues know what to do and move the nation forward.The problem has been supported by court cases highlighted in the media.Why there is a need to sweep it under the carpet?It involves a small number of people and why not clearing up the nut and bolt matters and close the whole issue after that.
The sensitivity issue cannot just be solved by citing a few cases,eg.If I am a Malay,I would have felt ashamed when you said that we had used crutches abeit some would not mind and profit from it.
If it cannot be discussed openly or not at all or the non-Malay talks and the Malay says” Have you finished shouting(I got the majority)now f o”,then wouldn’t that create a pent up feeling which may explode in the forseeable future just as it has exploded some 50 years later in March 8,2008.I must emphasize that I do not mean violence but more like the March 8 election results.In any case,you can speculate who will dare to start the violence.
YAB Tun dan Keluarga
Assalammua’alaikum
Reading your post made me very very touched and angry. My anger derived from the attitude of my very own race and why the insensitive from other races.
To start with, my own race,I have seen,heard and read how some of these people talk about liberation,freedom and sold their principles
under the guise of these doctrines.Some even share the actions and views that contradict their own culture,custom and belief of their very own race just because they are not able to see or thoroughly understand why such retrictions are required?
In furtherance to the above, my own race, those having the share or take advantage of NEP policy abuse the fundamental objective of the policy. For example contract given they were contented to have a
small profit and “ali baba” the opportunities and without realising
the opportunist will be richer and make them more competent. practise makes one perfect. Two of the elements the malay has lost. Competency comprised of money(power),expertise(knowledge) and dedication (advocate). Do they anticipated these before the “ali baba” the chances? I was one approached to be one of the “sleeping”
“powerless” director due to my bumiputra status by fortunately, I don’t have to be one of the contributor though at present I just have enough to continue the descending of my life. I am proud.
I cannot positively blamed the other races from being insensitive
to us based on a few factors outline below:
1. For the last 50 years they are being instilled with feeling of as
only second class citizen.
2. They worked their sweat out just to survive in this country
called Malaysia, while a handfull of “Tuan Melayu” really behaved
like they are the real “Tuan” and drained all the sweat put by
the non-malay to the extend of hurting their own race(malay)
sheer to their selffishness and greed.
3. Probably 50 years is the optimun duration given by non malays
to overcome the disparity and now they call it a day with
incidently with the emergence of a person called Anwar
Ibrahim
Tun, may be money is not everything, but almost everything, and coupled with expertise and dedication and a good networking it not
impossible to realised the changes. Where will the malays be then?
How will the constituition looks like when they have the 2/3 majority. Will the azan be banned like Singapore even now the azan
has been question?
Sincerely
Senjakala.
salam Tun,
setuju dengan komen Tun. jgn sesekali kita sesama rakyat Malaysia cuba membangkitkan isu sebegini. ianya akan menyemarakkan semangat perkauman. Malaysia terdiri dari rakyat yang berbilang kaum. Persefahamn perlu ujud antara kita agar kita dapat hidup dalam keharmonian.
kalau bertanya pada pelancong asing sebelum ini, mereka terus memuji Malaysia, sebuah negara yang aman damai walau berbagai bangsa dan agama. Namun jika di tanya sekarang, ramai yang takut untuk datang ke Malaysia dengan cerita politik…keamanan negara dan hal hal yang mereka rasa tak selamat berada di Malaysia
harapan…rakyat Malaysia bersatu padu…sayangi lah bumi Malaysia.
wassalam
Dear Tun,
It is interesting to see so much “hoo hah” about the Bar Council problem. Have the Govt give it a deep thought why they hold the forum? There are issues need to be dealt with in terms of Muslim and non-Muslims issues. The forum is held to discuss ways on how we can tackle the issue like “body snatching”, “name changing”, etc. Islam is great, isn’t it? So why is the fear to discuss it in a diplomatic manner?? There are lots of technicality that needs to be addressed. Put yourself in the shoe of the deceased families. How do you feel when a group of authorities come and snatch their loved ones body right in the middle of a funeral??? These are things that need to be addressed and how to deal with. The forum is not meant to be a debate. It is meant to look into how both courts Shariah and Civil Court can look into such delicate matter. When the Hindraf people protest, some were sent to jail but when the barbaric action of some protesters who shouted “Cina balik kampung”, “Babi” etc, no action is taken against them in spite of their violent actions.
Now that’s what I call double standard!!!! While I respect you for being a great leader during your times, unfortunately, in this respect, I don’t agree with your comments on the Bar Council. The simple truth is, you already make your judgements before even listen to what the non-Muslims have to say!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Hari ini saya terbaca statemment Tun yang menyatakan Anwar juga patut buat sumpah macam budak Saiful @ Say Fool. Pandangan ulamak ialah sumpah mengikut cara Say Fool bukan merupakan ajaran Islam dan ia terpakai untuk pasangan suami isteri sahaja. Tapi tak apalah, kerana mungkin kita (termasuk Tun) menganggap kedua-dua mereka mempunyai ikatan perkahwinan yang sah dan oleh itu sumpah cara Say Fool itu terpakai.
Yang melucukan mengenai sumpah Say Fool itu ialah drama itu tidak dipersembahkan secara meyakinkan. Say Fool nampak tersasul membaca sumpah beberapa kali hingga perlu dibetulkan oleh seseorang di sebelahnya. Tarikh liwat juga berubah, mulanya dia menyebut sebagai 26 Ogos, kemudian 26 Jun 2008. Biasanya seseorang yang mengalami peristiwa ngeri tidak akan melupai tarikh kejadian itu hingga bertahun-tahun akan datang, tetapi Say Fool begitu mudah melupai tarikh itu cuma dalam tempoh baru 2 bulan. Aneh dan sungguh lucu!!!
Satu lagi yang pelik ialah ketika menjawab soalan wartawan Say Fool menyatakan 26 Jun 2008 itu adalah tarikh pertama kali dia diliwat. Ia berbeda dengan kenyataan Dato Najib sebelum ini yang berkata Say Fool menemuinya pada 25 Jun dan memaklumkan ia diliwat beberapa kali sebelum 25 jun. Jadi mana satu yang betul – diliwat beberapa kali sebelum menemui Najib pada 25 Jun atau cuma sekali diliwat selepas sehari menemui Najib, hanya Say Fool yang membuat kenyataan tidak cerdik itu mengetahuinya.
Peristiwa-peristiwa pelik itu telah menjadikan majlis sumpah Say Fool bertukar kepada peristiwa yang penuh keraguan dan sangat melucukan. Jika kisah mengenainya dijadikan sebagai filem tentu ia hanya bertahan sehari sahaja di pawagam, kerana sudah tentu tidak ramai yang meminati cerita karut. Tapi mujurlah ia bukan filem tetapi cuma gimik politik dan oleh itu tentu ada seorang dua Pak Pandir yang betul bendul mempercayainya.
Anwar juga jika nak buat lawak karut boleh juga buat sumpah bodoh seperti Say Fool. Sama ada Tun meminati lawak karut Anwar adalah satu perkara lain. Tetapi memandangkan Tun sangat terpesona dengan sumpah lawak karut Say Fool, tidak mustahil Tun juga akan terpesona dengan sumpah lawak karut Anwar, jika diadakan. Sebab itulah barangkali Tun meminta Anwar juga bersumpah, supaya kita boleh tertawa terbahak-bahak menonton sumpah lawak karut yang melucukan selepas tertawa menyaksikan sumpah lawak karut Say Fool.
Dear Blog Editor,
I was wondering why my article was not published? Anything sensitive in my article?
I’m re-submitting it again.
Thanks.
Anba
Dr. Mahathir,
Hi there. You mentioned the following:
“I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country. It had paid off handsomely. We would not be where we are today if we slug verbally or otherwise, at each other every day.”
Here are my views on your statement.
1. I have always admired your guts in speaking out against the west and your visions in making Malaysia known to others in the world.
2. I believe that you’re a smart politician, better than your ability to be a medical doctor. As smart as you are as a politician, you are also cunning as a fox in refusing to talk about the sensitive racial issues thatâs crippling the minorities for decades.
3. You know very well that the NEP cold have been abolished in 1990, but you very well knew as a smart politician that you will be hated by the Malays forever if you had done so. On the contrary, I believe that the Malays, although they may have hated you by abolishing the NEP in 1990, in the long run they would have appreciated your move as that would have made the Malays work harder and improve themselves. I’m not saying that all Malays are not working hard, I’ implying that as a consequence of ‘spoon feeding’ the Malays, you will make them feel comfortable and unwilling to compete, knowing that the government is always there to bail them out.
4. You cannot expect to realize the truth if you do not investigate in an unbiased manner. You should know well, as a person trained in math and science, that if the scientist is biased towards an outcome in an experiment, no matter what result was achieved, it will not be a break through. Similarly, if you say that certain racial matters should not be discussed because it may cause violence, it is a ‘fear mongering’ technique that will not allow any debates to take place in this country. Developed nations had their share of disturbances and discomfort and even loss of life when it came to smelling freedom in their respective countries. If Rosa Park did not defy the ruling that separated the sitting of black and white in public buses by sitting in a seat allocated for the whites, the Civil Rights movements would not have materialized in the United States.
5. So, when you say that Malaysians are only paying a ‘small price’ by not discussing certain sensitive issues, I totally disagree with you. Let’s see how big of a price we are paying by not discussing and debating sensitive issues.
a. The Malays, although may feel good that by not discussing sensitive issues like the NEP and other racial issues, can continue to benefit from the Government plans. This only makes them more comfortable and produce the kind of graduates we are producing today where all the universities in Malaysia have been demoted in their world ranking except for UTM ( please see Bernama News on Nov 13, 2007 or visit http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_features.php?id=295773
b. The non-Malays, on the contrary are being left behind to rightly pursue their tertiary education and also possibly force many average grade students to begin to work after their SPM or STPM. God knows the countless number of non -Malays who suffered by being forced to convert to a Muslim when they marry a Muslim. Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim. I am not a Muslim scholar, but I am a tolerant human being who believes that every major religion is a love and peace abiding religion but the human beings who twist and turn the facts from the scriptures to suit their own needs.
6. Sir, not discussing the sensitive issues may have paid of handsomely for the Malays, but it has certainly caused lots of hardship and heart breaks for the non-Malays. Our cries and heart breaks will find an answer in the future. One race may dominate another for some time, but no race can dominate another race all the time.
7. You are unwilling to debate and discuss sensitive issues out of the fear of losing your own privileges. It is for this reason that I feel you have failed as a leader who could have been more just for the needs of other races in Malaysia. I can understand the applaud given to you in this blog by the people who certainly have benefitted from your policies. I can understand their joy and happiness. But remember this, the joy and happiness of one race at the expense of another race, no matter how gratifying, is NOT justified and against the natural order created by God.
Until then, take care and I hope that my words, although may be provoking, it was only written from the agony that I feel inside. Like you, every time I land in our airport, it’s a great feeling to land in our ‘tanah tumpah darah ku’. Although I’m a not a Malay, but I certainly feel like a Bumiputera, because if you break down that word ( Bumi = Earth and Putera = Sons and daughters of the soil or in the the Tamil language it means the Prince of the Soil) I am also a Bumiputera in the truest sense of that word, Bumiputera.
I pray for your health.
Take care and God bless.
Anba
dearest unreplaceable Tun,
these people really have to wake up. i’m most aggreable with you. too many fellas ‘sudah lupa daratan’… sometimes they are just being ‘terlebih mat salleh dah’… i will share with you of this solid real life joke.
my brother told me about this malaysian guy that have been living overseas for quite sometime. having a ‘mat salleh’ wife and on holiday, he came by invitation to my brother’s company annual dinner last time. so they shared the same table with him and his other colleagues. he was talking (or boasting) about his gala experienced overseas in the no 1 country, about his great job and his ‘pride and joy’ outstanding wife’s family. nothing about his ‘kampong’ whereabouts and life.
but the best part of all, at one point, he spoke with a full american accent.. the sentence that ‘pissed off!’ and shocked my brother most. it goes like, ‘when i was a malay… ‘ and the story goes on.
is something wrong here or somewhere?
may Allah bless you Tun and family.
suppie
TDM, this is my first time commenting on your blog.
My view is that everything must be discussed. Soooner or later everything will.
Malay issues. Islamic issues. Non-bumis. Everything should be open for discussion. I hate the fact that malays are constantly criticised in online forums. I long for the chance to be able to discuss inequalities with other races.
Come on then. Let’s get ready to (not rumble but discuss!).
Salam Ayahanda Tun yg dikasihi,
Teringat kisah 10 tahun yg lalu dimana Anwar dipecat.
Banyak orang mengata Tun kejam dan zalim, maka banyak yang melakukan sembahyang hajat memohon Allah swt menunjukkan kebenaran.
Perkara yang sama berlaku kembali, mungkin ini kebenaran yang ditunjukkan supaya Negara yg tercinta ini tidak diperintah olih Al Jubori.
Semoga Allah menberi petunjuk kepada rakyat Malaysia untuk sama sama menolak dan selebihnya kita serahkan kpd Allah Taala.
Tun dipihak yg benar. Amin
SALAMM!!!
U the MAN!!!!
2 GOOD TO BE TRUE…..THE ONE AND ONLY…
GREAT LEADER = GREAT NATION = MALAYSIA
PLEASE DONT STOP!!!
SALAMMM!!!
assalamualaikum Tun,
Harap2 suatu hari nanti proses asimilasi tu akan berjaya juga.
http://anakmalaysia81.blogspot.com/
Salam Tun,
Dimana bumi dipijak………disitu langit dijunjung
Semoga Tun suami isteri sihat selalu.
What the BAR COUNCIL did was stupid but not wrong.
They wanted to voice out concerns in areas where civil and Islamic law overlap. Certain individuals try to escape civil law by converting to Islam, as shown by the 2 examples they provided.
But Bar Council should know certain political people are always there to twist and turn the facts to make this into a sensitive issues.
What Merdeka 51 means to me base on the current administrations:-
1. Nothing
2. Nothing
3. Nothing
4. Proud of any acheivement? None so far
5. Proud with the leaderships? Yikes
6. Confident of achieving 2020 develop nation?..errrr no more
7. Proud of development thay is on the way?. Where, which one?
8. Nation will remain strong as we move forward? Not sure
9. Unity will remained and Malaysia will prosper?.. Hopefully
10. The royals will never interfere with the administration? errr.
11. Ghanian who ,liberated earlier than us by months might overtake us in development and economic.? Looks likely. they even might be the largest Palm Oil exporter one day.
12. Still proud to be a Malaysian? Why not.. its my country.
During your premiership:- “Dont do it or else face the consequences’
Current Premiership:- ‘Takpe, Lain kali Jangan Buat Lagi’
During our childhood time it very common when papa and mama always remind us ‘ Dont do that again’ and its ok since that’s the way to bring up kids BUT will that works to governed the country?
Assalamu’alaikum YBhg Tun the MahaGuru,
We ain’t seen nothing yet Tun, since the so called new leadership of UMNO took over the steering of this country calmly except the deterioration of perfect system perfected by u.Thanks to u and the elders of our founding fathers to have been in syn.
Since then, it seems every single system of government network collapsed and unconnected to the brain as a central of the whole politic body.
U have successfully built a form of politically sound malaysianised politic system based on multi racial need to achieve the goal 0f 2020 vision. this is proven Tun!needless to say more.
With the present leadership of the budulah and the gang, however good it may sound autonomous and openness, we always believe at the of the day the government should effectively and effeciently provide a common good result in light of living in peace and harmony, providing better infrastructure if not basic, and create wealth but not destroying it. Create value to the rakyat. Create an added value component to the rakyat. They should be a KPI given to all the YBs,not the babis as they wont even understand a very basic language other than eating and multiplying and annoying.
Rakyat, don’t ever forget this that we are the one who actually hold and evaluate their report card at the end of day!
As for the bar council who has given u the right to interrupt peace on the rakyat. I don’t think you are ready and rich enough to pay the price when you inflict harm to peace and development. U systematically intent to play the fire without doing ur homework hardly to study history of the country.
Don’t ever stop writing Tun.
Our pray is yours. God bless us! Amin
17. But ours is not. Ours is multi-ethnic country where assimilation has not taken place. After hundreds of years you insist on still being what you are. Still for 50 years we managed to remain stable without the kind of conditions imposed by developed countries on new citizens.
Comment regarding assimilation:
Dear Tun, it is BN’s corrupted, divisive race policies that caused assimilation to fail. BN always provoked race & religious issues so that it could stay in power. UMNO retards the Malay to think progressively & is definitely a huge barrier for assimilation. Unite & Malaysia will prosper!
Dear Tun,
Tahniah, atas tulisan Tun kali ini (straight-to-the-point). Ternyata kewujudan Majlis Peguam bukan untuk kebaikan profession peguam, tapi dgn niat tertentu dan dan nempaknya merosakkan keharmoninan Malaysia…. Oleh itu untuk bebaikan elok kerajaan haramkan sahaja pendaftaraannye…
Dear YAB Tun Dr.M,
My apology to use your blog to comment….
To ynwa1976,
Thank you for your excellent posting above…
To Aysha,
I read a lot of article and posting from muslim brothers stating that Islam should treat all human being fairly no matter of which race or religion they belongs to. But I find yours sounds the opposite way!!! Why?
If you want me to show you some proof on the postings and article written by those brothers, I can do that. Please let me know if you need to see them 1st before commenting on this.
Thanks.
Assalamualaikum Tun DMM & TSA serta Famili tidak lupa pada sume warga2 di dalam sini….
Talking about different race & religion …. I have a story to share. When I wuz staying in Kuching I dont really have non-muslim frens as my school itself mostly are malays and muslims.
The irony is that I am friendly and I enjoy talking and having new frens…but I am not really CLOSE to anybody.
I came to KL..I went to ST mary’s Girl School for one yr….i am out of contro 🙂 ….so parents shift me to school near to the house so that they can fetch me.
After finish high school I went to college….yes I do have that same fren (malay) for nearly over 12 yrs now….BUT at that same time my best fren n me are not in the same course, i join a different course which almost all are junior frm me….i came to know this group of my chinese frens who if four yrs younger….they are CPK,Leanne and Bernard ( frm s’bah & s’wak ).
I never thought that my frenship with them are that strong borderless….CPK always remind me not to forget my 5 times prayer,sometimes while studying i almost forget to pray then my wonderful fren wld tell me ” Hey, u dah solat tak ? ” i just enjoy and proud to be friends with them.
They help me do my coursework…cause my lecturer hates me so she FLUNK me….hmmmmmmmm …funny…my frens are the MOST angry people !!
I MISS them…..hope thay are all in good health.
If people say that we are not the same color,religion and race CANNOT tolerate each other its a total B**l.As i have gone thru it we can be Good and Best friends as long as we respect each other and never questions the reasons WHY in each beliefs as they are the retict area to ensure Good relationship.
Thanks Tun ….U R and WILL ALWIZ be the BEST………
WE miss u…..Doakan Tun & All…Sihat sejahtera selalu….
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Izinkan.
To ‘indian’, tak payahlah tunjukkan video yang hangpa buat sendiri. Naik meluat aku nengok. Tun made the very very right decision.
Tun, please take care..
Jangkaan KJ nak bolot harta rakyat (Petronas) , mengenai Tan Sri Hassan Merican
seperti dijangka …. Habis harta rakyat …
Wednesday, June 25, 2008
BARBARIANS AT PETRONAS GATE!
http://tunteja01.blogspot.com/2008/06/barbarians-at-petronas-gate.html
Salam untuk TUN & isteri serta warga chedet.Banyak yang saya masih belum faham tentang dunia politik .Terutama di negara kita,tapi apabila Tun menulis di blog ini minat untuk mendalami semakin membara.Ada yang saya masih boleh faham ada yang sebaliknya.Itu yang buat saya suka membuka laman ini dan memberi komen/pandangan.Walaupun ada yang mungkin telah di tolak tapi saya tak berputus-asa.Bagi saya TUN menjadikan saya sebagai rakyat MALAYSIA yang ambil berat akan negara ini.TERIMA KASIH PADA TUN SEKALI LAGI.Saya akan terus bersama2 menyokong perjuangan TUN,walaupun saya berada dinegara orang.Semoga TUN berjaya menyakinkan rakyat m,sia.
Your Honorable,Tun
I met you once in close, at a dinner held in Malaysia Embassy of South Korea.
I was lucky to have met you that day, and I was lucky to have been choosen as one of the “Look East Policy” students sent to Korea to learn from others.
In a Karaoke session, you sang “My Way” of Frank Sinatra.
” And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, I’ll say it clear,
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s full.
I’ve traveled each and ev’ry highway;
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Regrets, I’ve had a few;
But then again, too few to mention.
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted course;
Each careful step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I ate it up and spit it out.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And did it my way.
I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried.
I’ve had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that;
And may I say – not in a shy way,
“Oh no, oh no not me,
I did it my way”.
For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows –
And did it my way!
Yes, it was my way ”
It was the first time I met you, and that kept me remember you when I sing the song sometime.
Thanks for introducing me/us the song. It taugh me a lot since then.
The song do represent a lot about you. Not only you, it also represent a lot of good leaders, who have guts to hold responsibility in any actions they decided.
Wish we could hear you sing the song again sometime in the future.
Stay healthy and happy, Honorable Tun.
Kepada Tuan/Puan para peguam-peguam Melayu dalam Majlis Peguam Malaysia, anda sepatutnya memperjuangkan dengan lantang dan konsisten tentang isu berbangkit mengenai ujian kelayakan CLP bagi para graduan undang-undang di Malaysia. Ini adalah kerana mekanisma ujian CLP ini secara majoritinya dikawal oleh peguam-peguam bukan Melayu didalam Majlis Peguam Malaysia yang kebarangkaliannya adalah ber-agenda sendiri. Tengoklah statistik calon galus dalam ujian-ujian CLP berkenaan. Sedarlah wahai peguam-peguam Melayu semua, sedarlah tentang peranan dan tanggungjawab anda kepada bangsa dan agama dan juga negara. Tubuhkan segera Majlis Peguam Melayu (Islam) Malaysia. Perjuangan anda sebenarnya baru bermula.
Tun,
I have the deepest respect for you since I was eleven, albeit back then I was not quite aware of your history and origins and apparently was a raised-and-born-in-Brunei person, but I knew for a fact that you built up Malaysia, you further developed it after your predecessors. It is sad that all those things you had accomplished in making Malaysia a country revered by others comes falling down like a game of dominoes with our present prime minister in charge.
Tun, I greatly agree with your take on the Bar Council. It would perhaps be acceptable if the Bar Council had made the Memeluk Islam forum not opened to the public but instead to have the forum in a private manner. It is funny and at the same time greatly irritating what certain groups would do just to cari pasal with not just the government but also the Muslim majority of Malaysia. It would seem that the Bar Council, consisting of well-educated people, are as you say, arrogant (but let me further elaborate that very word; pompous, arrogant ass). It would seem that they have no care for the sensitivity of the rakyat, as though they’re all sneering and saying to each other “let’s poke this pressure point, lets see what reaction will we get” by holding a forum that anyone in the right mind knows would sure cause all hell to break loose.
Everyone’s yelling out the words ‘human rights’ or ‘hak kita’ whenever we speak about things like racism, religion and other sensitive matters and I think you said enough about the usage of the word human rights in this piece on the bar council. If everything is about human rights and the freedom of speech, then heck I can easily bomb someone’s house and say it’s my right as a human. I can easily talk about gay activism because it’s my privilege to freedom of speech. It is absolutely disgusting and disturbing that the use of the English words have been abused. And as you said, if we Malays talk about Chinese or Indians, they call us racist but if they talk about us Malays, questioning our protected position by the government then what is that? Is that racism or is that just plain ol’ human rights?
The Bar Council holds onto that ‘berani mati’ phrase but they should have the sense to hold their tongue when they’re laying down an issue that surely will provoke the nation. I think a more sensible solution to the matters such as hak penjagaan anak when the husband secretly converts to Islam or the cremation of a family member’s body when all the sudden some sort of news comes out saying that the deceased should be cremated in Islamic manner, not Buddhist or Christian or whatever, etc, there are cases when the family does not know of the person’s conversion so this is when the whole feud breaks out. So, why not the Syariah court or the government issue laws saying that all converters must make announcements on their conversion to Islam or other religion through the media. This is much more a sensible approach if the case is that the family does not know of one of their family member’s conversion to another religion. In Brunei where I am residing in at present time until I face my O’levels, this way is actually effective. Maybe this is because the population is very small compared to Malaysia’s and so that is why we don’t have soap operas in the court but perhaps if we carry out this similar measure such as Brunei by announcing anyone’s conversion to another religion (Brunei announces mostly on the conversion to Islam) in newspapers by having a whole column especially for announcements on Muslim converts then perhaps the whole bickering would lessen but of course, it is also thinkable as to how this can be done since Malaysia has a really big population but it won’t hurt to try now as opposed to just letting go of the matter and standing up from the chair only when someone holds up a finger and causes a stir of uproar amongst the Malaysian public.
Tun, this is just a simple request from a Malaysian youth who wants that ol’ glorious Mahathir’s-Malaysia back; come back into UMNO, Tun. Come back and give us back what we had lost and are losing. The government of Malaysia is weak now, and all sides are taking advantage, poking at the government from left, right, front and back just to see what reaction they’ll get. Well, I’m done with seeing my government, my BN, being poked at.
Dear Tun..
Totally agree with you.
You speak-out your mind with brilliance interpretation.
The quality of the true leader you are.
Iâm proud of you Tun. No doubt that you are the most respectable and brilliance leader of the world.
I am looking forward for your talk this coming end of the month.
Hope can meet you personally and shake hand with you.
As for this article, what is going on currently is just political games.
Mastered by the irresponsible minds.
Sensitive issue shouldnât be taken lightly. It obviously very-very complicated issues.
New mind games played by the PENJAJAH to seize us by taking advantage of our weak leadership.
But sadly none of our so called leaders smell this kind of trap.
But if you are still in power surely all this sick minded people will be scrapped by you without fear.
Tunâ¦.just my thought..
p/s â Cecindui & Man Tigerâ¦meet u guys at d Talk.
Dear Tun,
A great masterpiece!. Luv U Tun.
Tun yg disanjung,
Artikel Tun ttg Bar Council mmg tepat.
Sedih juga sbb masih ada yang tidak dapat menerimanya.Kerana mereka bukan Melayu atau non-MIB.Bilakah Bar Council hendak membela orang melayu? Sekarang ini peguam melayu tutup mulut,sibuk kutip duit masuk kantung sendiri,sibuk bankrap.
Sebagai orang melayu saya juga rasa sangat sakit hati kerana terpaksa melihat sahaja non-MIB mendiskriminasi bangsa saya.Jika kita di atas adalah juga peluang kita merasa.Tetapi jika mereka berada di atas,kita akan dipinggirksn…..kita senyap saja,tak bising2pun.2hari 2 malam tahan telinga dengar upacara sembahyang mayat jiran cina sebelah rumah sehingga tengah malam. Pernah kita merungut?
Tapi kejayaan Lee Chong Wei semalam,membuatkan rakyat Malaysia terkenang, nostalgia bertahun2 yang lalu amat dirindui.Seorang anak didik berbangsa cina memeluk guru bangsa melayu.Waktu itu segala perbezaan dibuang jauh ke tepi,bukan?Itulah yang Tun telah lakukan selama 2 dekad.Anwar Ibrahim menghancurkan segala-galanya kerana dendam dan cita2 politiknya dengan menghasut orang cina dan india lalu melaga2kan dengan melayu.Saya percaya usia Tun masih panjang untuk melihat kebenaran akan apa yang telah berlaku 10 tahun dulu.Kepada yang masih belum faham,belajar2lah faham.Bersyukurlah dgn apa yang telah dinikmati.Jangan jadi TAMAK!
Tun,saya harap Chong Wei akan dapat 1 juta tu,walaupun ternyata amat sukar kerana saya tak ada prejudis terhadap orang cina.Ada perkara yang sangat penting di sebalik pelukan Chong Wei dan Misbun.Unity Is Strength!!
Assalamualaikum Ayahandaku, Tun yang di kasihi….
Semoga Ayahanda dan Bonda kini berada dalam keadaan sihat walafiat dan ceria sepanjang masa .. Aminnn! …
Ayahanda & para pelawat CheDet.com,
Semakin hari semakin jelas nampak sungguh layu kepimpinan AbDolah memimpin negara ini walaupun beliau sedaya upaya menaikkan kembali popularitinya yang menjunam baru-baru ini dengan menggula-gulakan rakyat pada mutakhir ini dengan cerita-cerita membersihkan dirinya dan menambahpopular dirinya kembali, terkini dikatakan harga minyak akan diturunkan … tak faham? dah menjunam tu, susah la nak naik balik AbDolah oiii! …
Tu la … sejak dulu lagi Tun dah bagitau, TURUN SEGERA, TURUN! Tapi ngkau tak nak dengar cakap Tun … ngkau degil AbDolah! degil! … akhirnya populariti ngkau hancur, tak semena-mena BAR COUNCIL pulak dah berani dan biadap “menampar” muka sekalian rakyat beragama Islam dan khususnya Melayu akibat dari kelemahan pentadbiran ngkau wahai AbDolah …. Inilah yang kami semua tak mahu kat ngkau ni AbDolah! …
Rentetan dari “kasih sayang penuh tatangan” bak minyak yang penuh supaya tak tumpah, dari Menteri De Facto Undang-undang Malaysia (yang suka keMABUKan tu) kerana memberi muka yang lebih kepada “ketelusan” sistem perundangan (secara tidak langsung memberi muka kepada BAR COUNCIL), maka dengan ditambah sifat lemah lembut (baca : lembik!) Perdana Menteri Malaysia, maka BAR COUNCIL mula cuba “mengambil alih pentadbiran” akibat sedikit KUASA telah meresap masuk ke dalam Pertubuhan mereka!
Sensitiviti kaum dan agama selama ini terjaga dan dijaga rapi dengan selamat/elok/baik/bagus/cekap/berhati-hati/terkawal telah mula digoncang oleh PM ini dan Menteri De facto Undang-Undang ini, dengan mereka memberi ruang serta peluang kepada BAR COUNCIL(yang telah mendapat restu penuh mereka – demi “ketelusan Sistem Perundangan” kononnya).
Pertubuhan itu, tanpa segan silu kini telah “berani” mencabar hak-hak Melayu dan Agama Islam.
Inilah nilai harga yang perlu dibayar oleh Menteri terbabit yang telah membuka luas “pintu” kepada ahli-ahli perundangan ini “masuk” membawa belantan dan kayu pemukul untuk memukul prinsip negara (yang menjaga hak Melayu & Islam) selama 50tahun lebih yang terjaga rapi! Kini prinsip tersebut sudah lebam-lebam dibelasah oleh Pertubuhan itu …
Rawatan segera patut diberikan oleh Kerajaan yang bertanggunjawab! jika dibiarkan, ia akan membarah dan membawa padah kepada Bangsa Melayu dan Islam di tanahair Malaysia.
Kenyataan ini, bukanlah bertujuan mengapi-apikan perkauman, tetapi inilah nilai keharmonian selama ini, terganggunya keharmonian ini, jangan terkejut jika 1969 mungkin berulang.
INI YANG KITA SEMUA TAK MAHU TERJADI – KERANA KITA SAYANGKAN MALAYSIA DAN KEHARMONIAN SEMUA KAUM DI MALAYSIA! …. (Seperti sepanjang tempoh 22 Tahun kepimpinan Datuk Seri Dr.Mahathir Mohammed) …
Kita semua pasti masih ingat masa itu, kita semua (baca: semua kaum) hidup harmoni ketika itu tanpa ada sebarang rasa perselisihan antara kita, kerana menghormati hak-hak dan batas-batas yang telah digunapakai sejak merdeka … Jangan mudah lupa. Demi keharmonian.
AloQStaQ
http://AloQStaQblog.blogspot.com
++Tambahan:
Perrrggghhhh!!! …. Penjelasan Tun kali ni cukup padat dan lengkap terhadap puak-puak yang mempertikaikan kenyataan Tun mengenai BAR COUNCIL ! Nah ! Amik buah tangan yang padat dan mampat dari Tun! Jangan anggap Tun macam-macam … Tun dah lama dalam dunia pentadbiran kerajaan mahupun organisasi berbilang kaum … Bukan sehari dua, tetapi berpuluh tahun …. Sepak terajang dunia politik adalah asam garam hidup Tun … Jadi, artikel Tun hari ini, amat tepat dan padat memberi gambaran jelas kepada yang belum nampak apa yang dimaksudkan Tun mengenai BAR COUNCIL …
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TUN.
AKIM ini dari paksi mana…?
apakan dari KJ juga…?
Pilihlah pemimpin cara Islam.
Jauhi pemimpin yang bermasalah:
Pencuri:
Penjudi:
Peminum:
Penzina:
Peliwat:
kerana pemimpin yang baik pekerti akan menjauhkan diri malah menghindarkan diri dari menjadi syak wasangka buruk oleh masyarakat dengan perkara di atas.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan
_ashar_
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TUN.
AKIM ini dari paksi mana…?
apakan dari KJ juga…?
Pilihlah pemimpin cara Islam.
Jauhi pemimpin yang bermasalah:
Pencuri:
Penjudi:
Peminum:
Penzina:
Peliwat:
kerana pemimpin yang baik pekerti akan menjauhkan diri malah menghindarkan diri dari menjadi syak wasangka buruk oleh masyarakat dengan perkara di atas.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
salam perjuangan
_ashar_
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Spot on Sir.
This group of people will get the taste of their own medicine when their daughters and sons, driven by their strong believe in human rights which they inherited from their fathers and mothers, copulate like donkeys in the public.
I do not deny the importance of defending human rights but we MUST have some limits to govern our behaviour. We are INSAN, which means that we are forgetful. We need to remind others and let others to remind us.
Ask yourselves why do we need police, the judiciary system and why do even need lawyers? If everybody can do whatever they want to do, why do we even need the law? Total liberation or democracy or whatever you want to call it, will lead to total anarchy.
I cannot help but think that the human rights have been abused by those who are politically motivated. Democracy is a product or propaganada to destroy good ‘dictators’. When democracy does not work, you create another propaganda i.e terrorism.
Bloody agnostic.
saya harap Tun dapat menjelaskan mengenai sejarah dari pandangan Tun sendiri tanpa perlu menjaga hati mana-mana pihak…
1) bagaimana orang melayu begitu mudah boleh memberi kerakyatan kepada kaum pendatang dengan prinsip jus soli ?
2) bagaimana tanah melayu singapura boleh dengan begitu mudah diberi dengan percuma kepada PAP ? siapa yang melepaskan singapura ? ada atau tidak bantahan dari orang melayu ? saya ada terbaca artikel racist cina yang menyatakan Tuanku mengajak Sabah dan Sarawak menyertai Malaysia hanya untuk mengimbangi kaum melayu, benar atau tidak ?
3) bagaimana 13 Mei berlaku ? apa puncanya ? benarkah dakwaan dr kua dalam bukunya 13 May revisited menyatakan bahawa berlakunya coup d’etat ?
4) perjanjian air dengan singapura, kenapa kita tidak boleh selesai ? siapa yang buat perjanjian berat sebelah tersebut ?
5) komunis di malaya membunuh ramai orang tidak berdosa, kenapa masih ada ahli sejarah yang menyatakan mereka berjuang untuk negara ? mengapa dan bagaimana komunis boleh ada di malaya ?
6) sekolah-sekolah cina dan tamil. kenapa perlu dibina lagi selepas merdeka ? bukankah sekolah-sekolah ini dibina pada asalnya untuk kaum-kaum pendatang yang perlu dihantar pulang ke nagara asal mereka ?
cukup buat masa ini… saya akan kemukakan lebih banyak soalan lagi..
TUN,
thanks a lot that u make malaysia to the world wide know.TUN adalah contoh anak malaysia.
Chong Wei are show out wats mean its the multi racial country.he not win for chinese or him self but for malaysia.the only one get fight for us for the gold.did he mention that he win for himself…?
If want to talk about religion or ugama.Pls dont take part on politic and manage our malaysia.we need a man tat take care citizen and not for urself and urfamily,follower only live happilly and richer.rakyat also nak dapat hidup senang bukan nak kaya raya.but now day how …..???
TUN its correct poor its more poor,rich its richer so the country will end up like indonesia country 2 level ppl only.all race also a human pls respect.now i can see its malaysia r like no humans right.v r not stupid but dont thing we r weak.I have a lot of comment on politic issue and our country but i new on here.
PLS YAB TUN if i write wrong or my comment its sensitif pls let me know cause i m new here.
Let me to vote out wat r rakyat feeling right now.On TUN hand manage malaysia i c its growing up and improve not down grade.On this five year wat can v c its only increase price all the stuff that citizen need to use everyday not the country.
Assalamualaikum Ybhg Tun & famili semoga sihat selalu hendaknya.
1. You are absolutely right!
2. This is something to do with CHARACTER, MORALITY AND THE ARTS OF DEMOCRACY.
3. What is happening now, how could someone (like; MALAYSIAN BAR COUNCIL – MBC) of such intelligence group of people (so call high IQ) do something irrational so awkward. They RUB OTHERS THE WRONG WAY, atau pun dlm bahasa mudah so downright DUMB? These reflect their Low Emotional Intelligence (EQ). They have high IQ but low in EQ. Whereby, we have to agree to the statement: academic intelligence has little to do with emotional life. (EQ: refers to the capacity for recognizing our own feelings & those of others, for motivating ourselves, & for managing emotions well in ourselves & in our relationships).
3. Some say knowledge is power but our good Sai Baba says Character Is Power!, As philosophers since Aristotle have observed, is based on self-control disregard whatever belief or religion you are. it opens the way to EMPHATY, to real listening, to taking another person’s perspective, seeing things from another’s perspective, tolerance, acceptance of differences and sensitive of others feeling.
4. For MBC they need to have this yardstick to be qualified as one respectful body, and are ever more called on in our pluralistic society, which allowing others to live together in mutual respect & creating the possibility of productive public discourse – These are basic arts of democracy (am I right?).
5. Salah siapa agaknya dan di mana silapnya? Ybhg Tun always said, â Melayu mudah lupa. By right now (50 tahun merdeka) we should be able to tune in to the world, to read situations & connect with others while taking charge of our own life & our right – present & future.
6. Oleh itu, kita perlu lebih asertif (kemampuan meluahkan emosi positif & negatif, kepercayaan & fikiran serta hak dengan berterus terang dan bersopan tanpa agresif). Orang Melayu memang sangat kurang nilai ini kerana kemungkinan budaya bersopan santun yang akhir dilihat sebagai ruang lemah yang paling baik bagi mereka yang bersikap âopportunistâ seperti MBC.
7. Adakah perlu kita terlalu bersopan hingga tergadai maruah & hak?.
I understood what you have written perfectly but there are a few points that you did not raise. The points are :-
Time has changed and man has evolved to be more evil. I am sure you are aware that the Bar Council did not in any way questioned the rights of Muslim/Malay or whatever Article that is the mother of all sensitivity! I am also sure you are very aware the reason why the Bar Council had this forum.
Perhaps the points that you have put forth had worked during the early years of Malaysia but I doubt it will work for another decade. There are plenty of people like these 2 indian women (for example)out there who are suffering tremendously because the law that they abide, upheld and believe has not been fair and just to them. The law has instead play indifferent because of the need to be SENSITIVE to a certain sector of another law.
I am not sure if you do know the pain and suffering of a mother who has been cheated of her rights and all this is because the man that she had once thought will be with her for the rest of her life decided to play a cruel trick with her. That trick is to convert to a religion that everybody knows is the superior religion on this piece of land. Yes, we call such men, scumbs, spawn of the devil and leave them to God to deal with. But in the meantime, where and how does these women take their case to and have a fair chance? Do you think it is OK for these women to just shrug their shoulders and forget that the horrible stretch marks on their bellies which they see everytime they are naked is a constant reminder that their child is out there perhaps pining for her? That she is missing out on those precious moments of her flesh and blood’s development, turning from a toddler to a child to a teenager to an adult? Bar Council is not questioning Syariah but Bar Council is questioning if Civil could wake up and listen and act with just and honor. If Civil could forget about sensitivity and act justly, than there is really no need to have to ask right??
As for closed door talks/discussion that you have mentioned, well, perhaps during your time, you had made sure that there are solutions at the end of all these closed door talks/discussions. It seems when you left the office, so did these solutions…
Sensitivity doesnt means everyboday shaddarp.. sensitivity doesnt mean someone has to lose and the other gain all. If we are not matured enough to talk and discuss sensitive subject and try to find a solution that will work for all, than we might as well not have democracy at all. We cannot have 2 sets of rules.. we are matured enough to vote but not matured enough to talk about sensitive subjects and be civilised! I must say that the Malay/Muslims seem to be sensitive all the time!!! Perpetual PMS-ing! That is dangerous!!
Raja Petra should be put in jail forever…
I just don’t understand him. Just because he married a chinese lady, he now act as the non malays hero. Condemning the malays and islam. The Non the malays are very proud and love him. Have we seen or heard any fool from the non malays community damning their own race like RPK.
TUN,
PLEASE SPEAK UP ON THIS ISSUE. RAJA PETRA KAMARUDDIN, THE THORN IN THE FLESH
SALAM TUN,
Saya pecaya kepada PENGALAMAN.
PENGLAMAN ADALAH ILMU TERBESAR DALAM KEHIDUPAN.
PENGALAMAN TUN selama lebih setengah abad sebagai pemimpin dan negarawan menjadikan TUN lebih matang dan berpandangan jauh daripada semua pemimipin yang ada hari ini termasuklah DSAAB dan DSAI.
Tidak akan adanya sebab TUN menolak kepimpinan hari ini jika TANPA ASAS YANG KUKUH.
JADI bercakap hal BAR COUNCIL boleh menampakkan kelemahan orang yang TUN TUJUKAN.
TETAPI pendapat saya, TUN tidak akan ke mana jika menulis dan hanya bertindak sebagai ‘PENGHIBUR’ dan pembaca merasa ‘TERHIBUR’.
SAYA ingin mengajukan TUN bertindak DEMI NEGARA MALAYSIA.
Bermula dengan ‘TINDAKAN’ BARU DAPAT MERUBAH KEADAAN.
CADANGAN SAYA:
1. TUN perlu mendapatkan sokongan calon pengganti PM yang TUN rasakan layak bertanding melawan PRESIDEN pada EGM UMNO akhir tahun ini dan mencalonkan beliau dengan sokongan MT UMNO.
2. TUN juga boleh mencabar PAK LAH supaya SATU PETI UNDI KHAS DIADAKAN semasa EGM UMNO nanti bagi melihat sama ada ahli-ahli UMNO masih yakin dengan presiden atau tidak.
3. TUN juga boleh mencadangkan atau mencabar satu poll online diadakan di website PEMUDA UMNO atau website UMNO sama ada mereka yakin dengan presiden hari ini.
CUKUP SETAKAT ITU CADANGAN SAYA KERANA SAYA YAKIN TUN LEBIH BIJAK DARI SAYA MENGENAI INI.
TERUSKAN MENGUNDI MENDESAK PAK LAH SUPAYA MELETAK JAWATAN:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/PakLah/
VOTE SEGERA DEMI MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASALAM
Tun, the Bar council had enough of your meddling in the judiciary during your 22years.During those dark years too much have been force down their throat.Now it’s timely that all must be vomit out.
bar council is taking this opportunity to pressure the current government to make changes. This has been the trend I noticed that is happening in our country. The “openness” or rather the weakness of the confused leaders, have been used to the max by those seeking to profit themselves in getting their ways. Sadly, done without consideration on the tolerance attitude by the Malay and muslims.
The only reason why the alternative party will take over the country easily is when there is no changes in the entire UMNO leadership. Then the whole UMNO and BN should stop thinking the way they are, in denial over the lost states etc, but start doing some REAL works FOR the people and less of politicking and thinking about large contracts and be treated like some LORDS when they are in power. My question, why datuk ambiga is not being detained like any others who have created such stir in the society?
salam Tun,
To Shah,
apa kau melalut ni? merapik meraban tak de pucuk pangkal..cerita pergi keje kat Europe tak nampak condom…apa ni? Betul ke kau pernah keje kat Europe?kat Albania kot..atau sengaja reka cerita?
Jangan cerita Melayu Singapura macam kau pandai sangat.You must be a Singapore government agent to say good things about the Malays there.I WAS BORN THERE.DO NOT TRY TO BULLSHIT ME!
To Indian ,
who are you to threaten Tun?Destroy the nation,my ass!You know that you are the real original 100% guaranteed 2 headed snake here.SHUT YOUR MOUTH UP AND GO TO HELL! People like you does not deserve respect because you watched too much Tamil movies and think you are the HERO.
See Malaysian Indian comments and learn a thing or two from him/her.
Jeng3
Dear Tun,
It is good to know there are still people like ynwa1976 who go for understanding and forgiving some of the misdeeds by other people (other races).
However I believe by keeping mum over the issues will only increase our strereotype on the other races. I think it will be good if we can find time to discuss problems with our neighbours. I believe most of our inter-racial problems are due to miscommunication among us.
Most of us are pre-occupied with activities involving our own race and I do think some us like to live in areas where it is confined to our own race. This perception must go.
Our government should spend more effort in uniting all the races. create mixed race housing areas, actvities involving all the races. Gotong royong is a good example. neighbours should talk to each other more often.
I for one believe that there should be only one type of school which is national school but Tamil and Mandarin made compulsory subject to Indians and Chinese respectively. In this way, we will not have the need to have separate national type schools for the non-malays.
This might not augur down well with the non-malays but we should make effort so that all the races will becomes friends from a young age and will foster better understanding and friendship. How many Indians from Tamil school have Malay or Chinese friends uuntil they go to Secondary school and vice versa.
Leaders of all races should ponder ideas to unite us all from a very young age instead of harping on politicising the racial issues.
Salam,
i do agree with Tun’s comment. its not just about malay rights and sensitivities.its not just about us,its about everyone else too. yes, some countries, may have extra rights but they may not have rice to live. we all have watch on tv how in some countries, buildings are destroyed, daily routine is throwing stones and feel angry and upset all the time. crime rate skyrocket, women and children denied their rights as human being just because they arent men etc.
therefore, i reccomend and urge at the same time Malaysians to reflect (not just reflect) but act too. be grateful for what we have. we’ve beautiful car, roads, buildings and people around here. look at your neighbour (though we may not always agree with them), but is it worth to show off/fight your rights just because you cant stand their dogs are barking loudly every nite when u come home??
we need to be sensitive,respect..it may be not your cup of tea,but you still got to drink it..sometimes..thats the beauty,then you know what tea taste like..
GoOatspeed!!
Dear YAB Tun.Dr.M,
Good one sir….
Thank you.
YABhg. Tun Dr. Mahathir,
terima kasih kerana memberikan satu penerangan mengenai satu perkara yang cukup kompleks dengan cara yang cukup mudah dan bahasa yang senang difahami. Saya percaya hanya pemimpin macam Tun sahaja yang boleh mengawal pertubuhan seperti Majlis Peguam supaya tidak melampau dan celupar. Majlis Peguam merasakan mereka cukup bijak dalam perkara perundangan sehingga boleh mengatasi undang-undang negara. Sayang sekali Kerajaan sekarang tidak berani untuk mengawal orang-orang dalam majlis tersebut. Semoga Tun sentiasa sihat sejahtera………..
Salam Hormat Tun,
These are the words and thoughts of someone who had lead a stable and prosperous Malaysia with the utmost RESPONSIBILITY and COMPETENCE. A leader who has his ear to the ground. Keeping in touch with the feelings and sensitivities of all the communities in the country – and even of its neighbours and the world community.
Human Rights CANNOT stand alone – it has to be balanced with Human RESPONSIBILITY!!!
In the context of the Bar Council – They missed the point because they thought it was their responsibility to be in the forefront in the fight for Human Rights – They forgot that they actually had not been given the Right Nor Responsibility. So if anything happens as a consequence; they can never and will never be HELD RESPONSIBLE.
I hope the Bar Council office bearers and especially their members (exercise your democratic rights & responsibilities to uphold the integrity of the Council by removing those irresponsible office bearer) by going back to the actual main responsibility and right of the council. Which is about ensuring the professionalism of the all practicing laywers – VK Lingam being one of them. Take care of you own house first!
If the Bar Council wants to comment on politics – then they will be well advice to start an political party and take on its arena of rights and responsibilities – don’t use the Bar Council as a political Party – Its is a very very IRRESPONSIBLE thing to do!!!
As for Pak Lah and his bunch – don’t just sit there and say. “oh, I have advice them to not do it”. My God – please do not forsake your responsibility to ensure the stability, security, integrity and prosperity of the Nation.
Isn’t it enough that Nation had lost – territory, prosperity and integrity that you now want to give stability to the wolves?
Pak lah please muhasabah di “Gunung Ledang” or pergi Umrah (as a private person) for two weeks. Solat sunat yang patut2 – cari lah hidayah Allah kalau Pak Lah ingin betul2 di sanjung sebagai Wira Agama Islam yang sejati.
Semoga Allah selamatkan Bumi Malaysia – Semoga Allah angkat pemimpin and rayaat nya menjadi teraju Khalifa nya di muka Bumi ini sebagai mana Tun telah tunjukkan jalan nya (maka ia BOLEH menjadi kenyataan – bukan khayalan atau dongengan sahaja).
Pak Lah kalau sudah tiada keupayaan – kami mohon – Demi Malaysia – beri laluan kepada yang berkemampuan secepat yang mungkin.
Kami sanjung niat Pak Lah memberi kepimpanan kepada Najib di tahun 2010. Adakah itu yang terbaik untok Malaysia? Adalah lebih baik Pak Lah tumpukan perhatian kepada mencari penganti yang terbaik untok Malaysia sekarang (jangan buat janji yang tak berfeadah kepada Malaysia). Buat apa yang lebih Afdal untok Malaysia.
Salam Rindu kepada Malaysia yang UNGGUL – Malaysia dan Pak Lah BOLEH!!!
Salam sejahtera Tun
From across the causeway.
We always have high regards on you. You always been my inspiration. I am sad that inspite of your sacrifice, contributions some are still ‘blind’. We always pray for your good health. Wassalam.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
apa yang Tun tuliskan/huraikan ini memang memberi nilai tambah pada pengetahuan saya…
Bar Council perlu diperbetulkan…harap PM tegas,lalang dah naik baru nak cantas…alamat semaklah kebun dengan lalang,ada duri pulak tu…
Chong Wei ke final,dan ada peluang memang emas…melalui paparan di tv yang saya tengok Chong Wei keriangan setelah menang,macam biasa meluru ke arah Misbun…paling syok lihat Chong Wei mencium bendera kecil Malaysia pada bajunya…terharu sungguh
ini lah rahmatnya di Malaysia Melayu,China,India dan bangsa lain boleh hidup dengan mesra,makmur mencapai kejayaan…
ini ada pulak yg nak kempen pasang bendera Malaysia terbalik…apa jenis mentaliti pon saya tak tau…
Harap Tun dapat bukak topik tentang Kemerdekaan…
lagi 2 minggu bendera pon kurang nampak ni…
ayahda Tun,
plz do something….
malapetaka besar dah semakin hampir…..
Salam Tun,
Jutaan terima kasih saya dan seluruh warga kerja Dunia Seni Lukis Sdn Bhd atas kesudian Tun dan isteri hadir merasmikan galeri kami semalam.
Pandangan- pandangan Tun amat berharga untuk kami menilai corak pemerintahan sekarang. Semoga Tun dan keluarga sentiasa sihat. Teruskan menulis kerna kami akan terus membaca
Wassalam
Salam kpd TDM yg sentiasa mencurahkan pendapat yg sentiasa membuka minda rakyat…memang kita takkan dapat melihat dan berfikir spt Tun kerana Tun adalah Pemimipin yg ulung.
Tun
Majlis Peguam ni adalah badan yg suka mencari populariti dgn bersandarkan hak asasi dan undang undang. Memang jelas ianya berkepentingan peribadi dan menggunakan undang undang sebagai topeng dan jalan untuk mencapai matlamat. Sensitiviti tidak diambil kira asalkan matlamat tercapai. Kenapa tidak mengadakan rundingan atau dialog dgn Ulama atau pemikir islam yg ada di negara ini. sebaliknya Majlis Peguam lebih suka berbincang pihak yg ‘mereka ingin bincang’ agar dialog tersebut mencapai matlamat mereka. Janganlah kerana ingin popular, secara tak langsung agama islam dijadikan sasaran dgn menggunakan perlembagaan sebagai topik untuk perbahasan tanpa mengambil kira sentiviti penganut agama islam.
Tun
kalau saya boleh menghormati agama dan bangsa lain di negara ini, kenapa Majlis Peguam ni degil sangat dan susah nak menghormati agama islam dan orang melayu di negara ini apatah lagi agama islam adalah agama rasmi. Mungkin Majlis Peguam merasakan mereka amat berkuasa sekali dgn menggunakan pengetahuan undang undang mereka dan boleh bercakap apa saja.
Banyak lagi isu yg boleh diselesaikan oleh Majlis Peguam ni kalau nak jadi popular contohnya dalam kes pembeli rumah, selesaikanlah kes pejabat peguam yg tutup dan mereka lari dgn duit ‘stakeholder’ dan banyak lagi…
Saya nampak pada akhirnya bukan parti yg menyatu padukan orang melayu di negara kita tapi agama Islam. Jadi kepada Majlis Peguam…awas! Jangan bermain dgn api…kecil2 jadi kawan kalau dah besar akan jadi lawan.
kepada TDM
teruskan menulis…untuk agama, bangsa dan negara
sy rasa kita protes buat demonstrasi desak c dollah letak jawatan. dia tu tdk sedar diri, tak reti nk turun lagi.
kelemahan dia adalh punca segala. terbuka konon skrg smua dah naik muka!
biar Muhiydin, Rais Yatim & Mukhriz & azlina yg naik..
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Dearest Tun, please allow me to just want to write a few words against comment by
By Shah on August 16, 2008 10:13 AM
8. Go to some European countries and you will find condoms on the steps of churches. In others, Christian priests officiate marriages between man and man, woman and woman and they raise families by having sex with other people. It is fine there because it is their interpretation of their rights. But why stop there? Why arrest couples having sex in full view of people in a park?
I have worked in Europe before but I could not find and see couple having sex in the park.
My comment: I have seen many couple had sex in the park in Europe. Once in Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow Scotland in Sept 1995. I could still remember the date because it was the most ambarrassing moment of my life because I was new to that country and I was with a female friend taking a walk to our Uni, Glasgow University which situated near the Park. So Shah, you might be there during the winter season as only during winter the act is nowhere to be seen. Sejuklah . So Mr Shah, don’t argue with a lame argument especially many of those visiting Tun’s blog are those that has travelled far and we are a grateful lot. We can make comparison on how Tun has managed our beloved country and compare them with other leader. He is one of the best leader . Period.
You could easily buy condom in Europe and throw anywhere and throw to steps of churches. So, AIDS cases in Europe are less than in Asia.
What I found more in Malaysia news are father raped daughter, uncle raped daughter, brother raped daughter, neighbour raped neighbour, etc. At least 2 cases of rape daily in Malaysia?
My comment: Why should they rape, when they easily get free sex anyway. Lots of female there are willing partner whether they are married or not. Unlike Malaysia where religion put a boundary to this.
All the parks in Europe do not allow having sex in the park. Similarly, do you allow rape at home by father on their daughter?
My comment: Sorry, not all, in fact I have never seen one in London. The only sign that I could see was the dog owner must scoop their dog’s shit and put it away in a special bin. Anywhere there is no pencegah maksiat patrolling the are which is so unlike Malaysia.
By having a conference or seminar will lead to killing this and that?
My comment: The so called seminar is only the starting part. Pembukaan. If they are successful in this, more seminar like this will be carried out and eventually will hit religion itself. Like Islam is agama rasmi negara.
Tun has accurately predict what will happen in the future. Not that he is a palmist or anything. He could interprets things far advance compared to us, thus making him want to better ourselves. Look at his prediction so far. BN lost many states. Petronas Hassan Merican oust by Khairi, Zaid Ibrahim the backdoor minister, Ian Chin, Anwar Ibrahim, and so much more. The only thing that he did not see was Pak Lah will destroy Malaysia when he elected Pak Lah. Anyway, who is perfect!
Thank you
we are bangsa malaysia like what tun m said right? If Tun Abdul Razak, Tun Tan Siew Sin and Tun Sambanthan are still alive, they will feel hopeless, as what they fought in the previous days became meaningless!
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/where-are-we-heading-to-malaysian/
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/racist/
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/07/29/racial-integration-the-dawn-waiting/
Tun,
The correct approach in multi-racial society, we have to be altruistic at all time. The world is to be shared by many. Segala tindak-tanduk kita sama ada bercakap atau perbuatan, seharusnya mengambil kira orang lain. Same goes with the Bar Council. The problem with the Bar Council is actually “too dark” and need to be corrected.
Agreed with David. When Chong Wei raced to open arms after winning in the Semi-Finals; that was a defining moment that we are one Malaysian irregardless of race, religion or creed. The only thing I miss was a shot of Tun Dr Siti Hasmah Mohd Ali standing and cheering Malaysia on!
This was something, you had spend most of your existence to achieve. It took a while, but you ( Tun ) did it and this cannot never be undone. Similar to all your policies that has help us to where we are today. Many may comment negatively about you, but they don’t realise your vision.
Thank you, Tun… and God Bless You and your family.
Salam kepada YAB Tun dan rakan2 bloggers,
1. Tun bagi penerangan di dalam blog ini kerana masih ada yang beranggapan Tun anti free speech atau human rights. Tun pun jelaskan tentang isu tidak sensitif.
2. Pulak dah, dalam respons kepada Tun terdapat mereka yang masih tidak faham apa yang sensitif sangat. Saya tidak menyalahkan mereka kerana mereka adalah golongan yang percaya democracy, free speech, dll. Mereka yang faham undang2 tahu semua ini, itu sebabnya bar council ambil peluang, polis setakat menasihati saja, bijak pandai yang tahu undang2 setakat mengeluh saja…semuanya dalam kebenaran undang2.
3. But my friend, can you stop those angry protesters? Can you stop those who tried to harm the chairman by throwing kerosene or maybe real life bombs later? Can you stop the riot like May 13th? Kampung Medan? Kampung Rawa? You see, out there, there are people who follow their hearts, not their thinking. During my younger days, I’d heard stories of some of the devoted Indians went into a trance even while watching a movie and went hysterical on stage in the cinema! A coupla years ago, a bunch of chinese PLKN trainees went into a trance and staged a demo becos they were not allowed to go back during hungry ghost event…can you explain that?
4. That’s what sensitivities all about. Maybe your tolerance is high, nothing is sensitive. But we are not living by ourselves, there are others in this country and not all are open-minded like some of us. Come on, dont pretend, all races in the world have a portion of their peoples who are just fanatics!
5. Remember the Indian doctor who was shot dead becos he was suspected of luring Malay girls to convert to Hinduism? I hope everybody be sensible but the reality is there are the extreme ones.
Sorry la Tun dan rakan2 sebab banyak kali nak bagi pendapatan!
I watched the news last night As Lee Chong Wei won & going for final in Olympics’ badminton games. He ran & hugged Misbun. That moment, I’m touch because different races is not there & we as Malaysian. I wish to see more of this moment in future. There is some sensitivity of every races as we need to respect. Without unity, we cannot go this far.
Sihat selalu, Tun.
Dear Tun;
For 50 years, we have maintained stability, prosperous and we are looking forward to be a developed nation. So, what’s wrong with our Constitution? To maintain that stability for 50 years is not easy and having maintained that long shows the maturity of our people. As you said Tun, our freedom is not the same as in the West. Malaysians have to live with these sensitive issues. If we are to deal with these sensitive issues, we have to deal with much respect. That’s the Malaysian way for 50 years. Why to change it now?
Kepada Tun yang dikasehi,
Teriamkasih sekali lagi kerana menulis article yang begitu tepat….bila baca tu, tak ada apa lagi nak tambah sebab memang dah tepat sangat apa yang Tun tulis. Boleh menangis membacanya kerana ternampak keikhlasan Tun untuk memberi faham kepada mereka yang sentiasa tak mahu faham. Bertambah sayu bila memikirkan betapa kepimpinan negara hari ini sanggup ‘memusuhi dan menolak’ Tun?
Bolehkah agaknya Pak Lah menulis sesuatu yang bernas seperti ini? Tentu tidak.
Alangkah baiknya kalau Tun dapat memimpin kita sekali lagi?
Salam buat Tun dan keluarga….saya doakan semoga sentiasa sejahtera.
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
Your latest comment regarding Bar Council should be read repeatedly by every peace loving Malaysians irrespective of races, faith and religion. I think what Tun has said is the most practical remedy based on your experience and indepth observation to tackle unwanted insident in future to this country that might be caused by intolerance and insensitive behaviour of certain parties to other sensitivities of our fellow citizens in this multi-ethnic and religious country. What had been enshrined in the constitution is fact. Potential racial and religious tension and even may escalate into violence is real if we are not carefully handle our behaviour. Or is Bar Council is trying to create something that may cause choitic in the country and later comes out with suggestion that everything that had been mutually eccepted should be reviewed? If that is the Bar Council’s intention, it will not benefit you. If that happened I fear may be the Bar Council itself does not exist anymore. So please watch your steps. Don’t step blindly. Don’t step over other fellow citizen’s rights. If you respect others you could expect the same as return and otherwise. So let live together in peace and harmony in this land.
Thank you.
Salam Dr M
Saiful bersumpah âmubahalahâ di Masjid Wilayah.
Kini ramai Melayu Islam mungkin rujuk semula pada sejarah 10 tahun yang lalu.
Semoga ini menjadi saat kesatuan Melayu Islam diTanah Air.
Majlis Peguam bolehlah bermain layang-layang dengan undang-undang dunianya.
Semoga Dr M sentiasa sehat. Kami akan terus membaca …
Mahathir, you have destroyed the nation, when you were PM, you interfered in Judiciary, cronysim was common and corruption at the highest level. You have made a mockery just because you, your family and your cronies wants to be in power. An example of Tun Daim Zainuddin, look how he made millions and now settling in South Africa with billions he made.
You have followed the British mindset by dividing the society and rule them accordingly, have you taken the initiave to overcome it, NO.
SWEAR to ALLAH, that your sons did not made full use of your tenor as PM to enrich themselves. What bullshit are you talking now.
You have created the whole mess. You have destroyed our education system. You brought in Malay medium in education just because of your political mileage and now since you are out of politic you are reversing your initial decision.
You are a snake with 2 head always playing racial cards to destroy the harmony of the nation.
You are blaming samy vellu, you knew he played indians with MAIKA and telekom share, you as a PM for all races you should have taken action against him because he is going to destroy a community whole depending on him. Why didnt you take any actions?
JUST KEEP YOUR STUPID MOUTH SHUT – YOU WILL BE DOING A BIG FAVOUR TO THE NATION.
There is a video for you to watch and ponder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9q-Pp7Oxc
Salam Tun.
One thing for sure is that Bar Council are controlled by PKR and DAP via proxy. It fits their agenda to create civil unrest and disharmony among races in this country. Its the only way for them to take over the administration by 16 Sept.
Anwar Ibrahim, tolonglah bersumpah supaya kami percaya yang anda bukan kaki liwat. Selagi anda enggan bersumpah, sampai kiamat kami akan percaya memang andalah Bapa Liwat Malaysia.
sjankan, lihatlah kembali diri anda sendiri. Tidakkah ini satu bukti bahawa ibubapa anda telah gagal mendidik anda dengan sebaik-baiknya untuk menjadi insan yang berguna atau anda masih mahu salahkan orang lain di atas kekurangan anda. Kesian ibubapa anda, mereka pasti malu memiliki anak seperti anda. Kesiannnn…..
salam Tun,
to solcroft,
The word ‘barbaric’at the end of your comments reflect your nature as an Islamophobic.An eye for an eye,just like the Bar Council, you open the Pandora’s box and and you may not like the consequences of your actions.
Some of you choose to ignore that Malaysia is a unique country in the whole world.We have lived and prospered peacefully for 50 years despite having different racial and economic backgrounds.Nobody can deny us that achievement.
The key to this is PEACE.Without PEACE we will never be what we are today.
As Tun wrote;
15. I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country. It had paid off hansomely. We would not be where we are today if we slug verbally or otherwise, at each other every day.
With Solcroft’s kind of attitude,we are heading for a disaster if emotions are left unchecked.Our forefathers have been very accomodating when they mapped out the country’s constitution.Many of you know that some of the privileges you get here,you can never find in any other country in this world.
If you think you will be better off somewhere else,be my guest…
to hati.malaysia,
Your points are relevant but there must be better ways and channels to discuss these sensitive matters.The Bar Council itself is shadowy and dominated by certain groups of people with their own views and agendas.
You may think thay you are right and have grievances to air,but we also have ours too.If we are adamant to pursue our grievances openly,when is this going to stop?
I love my country.Two of my best friends are of Chinese and Indian descents.We get along wonderfully.Our respect for our mutual friendships outweighs the nagging issues that tend to unravel ours.I believe the Bar Council can learn a thing or two from this.
So to the Bar Council,you are trying to unravel the kinship of this country by trying to tackle too many issues at one time,as if taking advantage of this flip-flop government and weak leadership.Please be more sensitive in the future as you are now viewed suspiciously by many people.
Wassallam.
Jeng3
Assalamualaikum Tun and all readers,
Last time Bar Council debated on Hak Istimewa Melayu/Bumiputra and now Memeluk Islam open forum, , then may be Raja Melayu, after that forum on how to demolish Malayu in this Malaysia, then install equal right in between Melayu/Bumiputra and non-bumi, then …..
Why EDUCATED INDIAN lawyer now day try to be a HERO? What we are looking here mostly Indian lawyers head by Datuk Ambiga? Who is she? Is she a better lawyer than saay… Karpal Singh ? Is she trying to get some publicity for her and her others India lawyers in the eye of Hindraf supporters? Or may be she is just a “pawn” sending by a some “King” to destabilize Malayu/Bumiputra and Malaysia as a nation?
If I am a King of Malaysia, who is the guardian of Islam and Melayu in Malaysia, I will strip down these insensitive Indian, their citizenship of Malaysia. These kind of people is not worth Malaysian citizen.
Hey you Ambiga, being an Indian, you must help a lot of other Indian to improve their lives. They are many poor Indian in Rawang, Mentakab, Batu Caves to help. Your MIC is the one to blame not our Constitutions, moron. Help those Indian to get better education. Dont send them to SRJK Tamil because that school sucks. Better send them to Sekolah Kebangsaan or if got money to Chinese school. See… Chinese also got their own Sekolah Kebangsaan ( Jenis )… but their education system is good. How is SRJK Tamil? That is the reason why many Indian in kampung and out skirt not interested to school and finally not even finish their PMR? What kind of work can you get without education certificate? That is why India youth involve in thugs, gangster, snatch thief, robberies, killing, murdering etc…
You, Ambiga and others Indian lawyers, the selected few Indian, who are getting better opportunities, better education, smarter than fews, try to change your Indians life standards rather than annoy other Melayu and Malaysia’s Constitutionals? Hak Istimewa Melayu/Bumi, Islam is our official religion, are Malaysia’s Constitution. Social Contract also in Constitution. If it is not Jus Soli, you, Ambiga, must be born somewhere else. Maybe in India as your great2 grand parent went back to your kampung somewhere near Tamil Nadu and gave birth your parent and your parent gave birth.. you, Ambiga. I pretty sure that, if your were born there in India, trust me, you will not be a lawyer today, who head Bar Council with Datukship before your name. Which King give you the Datukship huh? He must be a Indian King I guess. Nuff said…….
Not only Bar Council, the whole bunch called UMNO and BN are insensitive. Infact the contributors on this blog are also insensitive in majority. We can say it by how much violent words used. Distubia…….
The soil here is very fertile for racial frictions to happen and then to suppress it under the banner of insensitivity only makes things worse,causes blocked energy fields and finally hysteria (Freud called it Libido and William Reich called it Orgone).Find the root cause, Bar Council is not the problem, it is simply the by product, an effect of a larger cause. Look for the source and you will find………the problem is that there no clarity of Mind and awareness to tackle it. We have hoarded so much and produce offsprings that are simply ignorant of love and just.This will go on and on ad-infinitum. What is sensitive now may not be so in the future. It is awareness. Sex subject was a taboo among family members before, it is not so now.The understanding and awareness on the subject has outgrown ignorance. To continue remaining ignorant constitues blasphemy of life.
Sex in Public is sensitive now, maybe not one day when the ignorance is gone. One day people will make love in public with their own spouses I mean, as the ultimate expression of love ( foolish one though). It will happen,slowly, somehow then it will be acceptable.
The existence is of billions of years and it has sheltered infinite amount of experiences. The possibilities are simply too much for us to digest or predict. In 10 years radical changes unimagined before could happen. So becareful what you wish for, it will somehow become a reality.Its just on waiting list now, a very long one.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Any comment pasal budak² UiTM yg lately ni suka sgt nk mogok² ni?
Semoga Tun & keluarga sentiasa dlm lindungan Allah hendaknya.
Assalamualaikum Tun
I agree with everything you said escept the part that it is ok to call the black man SOB. It is NOT OK where I am, in the United States of America. You can get into big trouble if you do. I thought I should say something here, for the record.
Secondly, you could be addressing my children and I will be offended!
Umm Muhammad
Assalamualaikum Yg Berbahagia Tun,
To enable Malays to excel, they have to enable to converse in the respected language where the knowledge comes from, as what you have suggested before and I am fully agreed of it.
To enable the Malays to excel in the economy dominated by chinese in this region (SEA) and other nearby areas, they have to learn this economic language (mandarin or cantonese). Then only they can learn and trade effectively with these peoples.
I am suggesting that Malays adopt Mandarin as third language as early as standard 1.
I would like to have an opinion of Ybg Tun on this, if poaasible.
Thanks.
Assalamalaikum Ayahanda..
Sesungguhnya Nama Malaysia sudah salah…biarkan sahaja ia nya kekal sebagai Tanah Melayu…jadi depa tu sentiasa ingat bahawa tanah yang depa ni pijak adalah hak Melayu…tapi kerana ramai bijak pandai ia di tukar kepada Malaysia… kalau baca betul-betul dlm slang cina makna nya melayu mati…well adakah akan jadi begitu? atau lebih pandaikah Hang tuah dgn berkata tak akan melayu hilang di dunia…tapi kalau setakat melukut di tepi gantang macam kat s’pura tu baik mati…hidup segan mati tak mau…mcm kata nabil Lu pikir lah sendiri…tapi berapa ramai Melayu yang suka berfikir…? sekian dr anakanda
To Ambiga & Co,
Don’t ever challenge the Malay Supremacy/Lordship.
assalamualaikum,
semalam, hari ini dan esok sangat meruncing dalam kehidupan masyarakat majmuk di malaysia. Isu perkauman, isu sensitif antara kaum, isu agama sepatutnya dibincangkan oleh pihak-pihak yng lebin berpengalaman dan arif. Orang berkepentingan dan hingusan patut cuma pasang telinga, belajar dan jangan cepat melenting.
Saya masih ingin bangun pada keesokan hari untuk melihat malaysia harmoni dan aman damai.
Terima kasih Tun atas kepimpinan dan visi agung selama ini. Saya adalah produk dasar pandang ketimur yg sentiasa dibelakang Tun.
Wassalam.
Dulu masa saya masih jaguh berbahas sekolah ada cikgu tanya saya “kenapa u tak mau jadi peguam” bila u punya idea boleh menterbalikkan fakta”…then saya jawab dengan sinis “kalau dah tau menterbalikkan fakta buat apa didokong terus.Kalau yg benar itu kita ikut,,dah tau tak betul, tak baik, baik jangan”.So bila majlis peguam mula menghangatkan keadaan semasa,saya bersyukur sebab tak jadi peguam walaupun saya tau banyak perkara masih boleh dipertikai semata2 memperjuangkan hak peribadi..Tapi jika hak itu boleh menimbulkan huru-hara dan menyebabkan lebih banyak keburukkan kepada banyak pihak lebih baik jangan….dan sesungguhnya pembahagian kuasa oleh Tun dahulu memang berbaloi walaupun tak disukai segolongan orang yang memperjuangkan kepentingan peribadi dari semua pihak..
Lain pulak kerajaan sekarang,,Diangkat balik,dipulihkan kuasa…diberi”komisen”..Seperti memelihara ular yang tak kenal tuan..Sampai masa dia tetap akan “Patuk” jugak.
8. Go to some European countries and you will find condoms on the steps of churches. In others, Christian priests officiate marriages between man and man, woman and woman and they raise families by having sex with other people. It is fine there because it is their interpretation of their rights. But why stop there? Why arrest couples having sex in full view of people in a park?
I have worked in Europe before but I could not find and see couple having sex in the park.
We could find condom in parks in Malaysia too. In Europe, only 1 third of population is erally practicing Christianity. The rest are non Christians.
You could easily buy condom in Europe and throw anywhere and throw to steps of churches. So, AIDS cases in Europe are less than in Asia.
What I found more in Malaysia news are father raped daughter, uncle raped daughter, brother raped daughter, neighbour raped neighbour, etc. At least 2 cases of rape daily in Malaysia?
All the parks in Europe do not allow having sex in the park. Similarly, do you allow rape at home by father on their daughter?
By having a conference or seminar will lead to kiling this and that?
This is not about sensitivity. Are issues discussed in seminars and courts sensitive?
In the same way the Bar Council Forum was a discussion on the issues that arise about conflicting rights and courts, with a need to overcome these conflicts.
It was a discussion towards conflict resolution!
2. What I was talking was about sensitivity – about the need for people to be sensitive to the feelings of other people. It was not about Islam or its teachings or its history per se. It is about the Malays and the non-Malays in this multiracial, multi religious country and their sensitivities.
The non Malay converts want to give up being muslim, this is also their sensitive requirement. What abotu their feeling?
You are just trying to stop the physical bodies of this group of people who want to convert back to be non muslim. In fact, you can’t stop their mind, you can only stop their physical bodies.
What is so afraid of you to let this non Malay to leave practicing Islam? They are just a few, maybe just a few hundreds. This is just a small number compared to millions.
Look at Singaporean Malay and Indonesians, they could choose what they like. But how many Singaporean Malay leave Islam? You hardly could find high number. It makes Singaporean Malay face challenge well.
This is the by-product of the law you imposed during your 2 decades of authoritative ruling where you stop the Malay from being progressive and being modernised like the Malay in Singapore.
I think this is good enough basis to use ISA on these people and put them behind bars (no council) if they still insist to continue. Clearly what they intent to do “mengancam keselamatan negara”…
But if this is being raised then there must be something valid such that they are adamant to talk about it. Then why hasn’t Zaid taken the lead to start a closed door discussion and find avenues to resolve it. This should be his priority -an issue that affects the common people and our everyday life.
It all started with Zaid who makes the bar council too arrogant and demanding so he need to resolve it. His boss should make this his priority.
Salam kepada YAB Tun dan rakan2 bloggers,
1. Most of the bar council people are taking advantage of the situation (Dollah’s fear of them) and most of them chose to provoke the Malays and Islam.
2. Most of the bar council’s idiots are indians, therefore, most indians are taking advantage of the situation (Dollah’s fear of them) and most of them chose to provoke the Malays and Islam.
TO ALL THE OTHER INDIANS, ARE YOU LETTING THESE INDIANS FROM BAR COUNCIL TO CREATE CHAOS? ARE THEY REPRESENTING YOU? BECOS WHEN THE MALAYS HATE THE INDIANS, THEY HATE YOU TOO…
ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY FOREVER OR ARE YOU LEAVING FOR INDIA SOON? IF YOU WANNA BE HERE, BE SENSITIVE LA…TELL OFF THOSE UNGRATEFUL INDIANS IN BAR COUNCIL.
Thank you Tun, luv u…and you guys, the bloggers with the same wavelength with me only.
Dear Tun,
I fully agree with your view. To Bar Council, you should learn to be sensitive to the indigenious people rights. Learn to be thankful that you can make a living peacefully in this land although you are a migrant. Learn to be grateful that the indigenious people do not question your rights as what you have always done to them. If you can’t learn, one day the indigenious will force you to learn and accept it in a hard way. I mean really a Hard way. As Murphy’s Law stated, “…everything will be in chaos if you let loose, until you exert energy or force to correct it.” Think wisely before your action. Remember, nobody has an absolute rights even in your motherland country.
The west puts too much emphasis on the freedom rights of individuals, every so often consuming the rights of the community. In America there exists an elite pool of âThe 1st Amendment Lawyersâ, lawyers who would sell the skins off their back or their mother to defend their myopic reading of the 1st Amendment. Freedom to porn, freedom to slander, freedom to incestuous relationships, freedom to same sex marriages, freedom to burn the American flag (the list may never ends).
Is this the direction our Barrister Council members are looking at? To actually be the localized version of the elite pool? Will the Malays (and non Malays) in this country lets you get your ways with that? Do you seriously only think and feel as if only you are the learned members of this community? Or by holding that colonialist LLB scroll does it makes you feel as champion of the race, chief speaker for all- elite of the fools?
Who recommended Ambiga for a Datuk ship? The public may wants to know. Ambiga was an experiment. You think that she could control her own peers and you invested in her. You gave them influence; you put them up one peg, you even put Tun Dr. Mahathir on the firing line for this misguided goal of yours. An acceptable target? Donât fool around that game with those you donât know. Tun Dr. Mahathir has every right to kick your balls till Kingdom comes.
You spent hundreds of thousands if not millions in back wages to the retired judges? And why not a public revelation? Why veil? You made childish speeches and tried to hold hands publicly again. Did it work? Now get off the wagon and let someone else do the driving. You may sweep all under the exclusive single needle Persians, but you may never rid of the smell. For that stinking truly is yours. You were put there to serve the âmajority publicâ.
If you cannot deliver this and you start to delude yourself with positions and righteous issues, just go back to page one of the text books: To serve the âMajorityâ of the people. Step aside when this has expired upon you and your legitimacies.
hmmm..
nampaknya sekarang ni..semakin kerap tun keluar dan memberi ucapan di media arus perdana..apakah yang telah berlaku..
samaada tun sedar atau tidak..mungkin sesuatu sedang berlaku..mungkin tun boleh jelaskan..saya percaya tun tahu
apakah yang mungkin bakal berlaku kelak..
Tun,
Police Malaysia masih bersikap rasuah.
I was stopped at the traffic light for over taking, the police officer accused me of cutting Queue. He said if he issue summon, the fine is RM300 and I have to go down somewhere in convenient. He then said “macam mana?”.
I said I will go down to pay the fine if there is a case and he has to prove it. I also told him my recorder is working and will ask the judge to tell me whose voice it was.
So he changed his tune and said next time don not cut Q and told me to “drive carefully boss”. Now since when I became the “boss” to Royal Malaysian Police? He must be so used to pay off by the “bosses”.
ASSALAMUALAIKUM TUN;
1.PERSIDANGAN CAWANGAN CAWANGAN SEMAKIN BERAKHIR. SEPINTAS LALU BERLAKU BANYAK JUGA PERUBAHAN DI PERINGKAT GRASSROOT. PEMIMIPN CAWANGAN , WANITA DICAWANGAN BANYAK BERUBAH KEBANYAKAN NYA SECACARA SUKARELA DAN SEBAHGIANNYA DI TANDING. KATALAH 30%. DAN KAMI MENJANGKAKAN 30% JUGA KETUA BAHAGIAN, TIMBALAN, NAIB DAN KETUA WANITA AKAN BERUBAH.
2. HAMPIR 60% PIMPINAN PEMUDA CAWANGAN DAN PUTERI CAWANGAN CAWANGAN BERUBAH ATAS KEHENDAK PERLEMBAGAAN KERANA HAD UMUR. DEMIKIAN JUGA KETUA PEMUDA BAHAGIAN AKAN BERUBAH YANG AKAN MENENTUKAN SAMAADA MUKRIZ ATAU KHAIRY YANG AKAN MENANG.
3. POSTMORTEM PRU 12 IALAH KEHENDAK RAKYAT DAN AHLI UMNO SUPAYA BERUBAH, BERUBAH KEARAH KEBAIKAN . PROSES INI SEDANMG BERALAKU WALAUPUN TIDAK SEBENAR DAN SEPANTAS SAPERTI YANG KITA KEHENDAKI
4. PERWAKILAN G6, PASTI BERUBAH. HARAPAN G7 JUGA BERUBAH MEMANG LOJIK. INI JUGA AKANN MEMUNGKINKAN BARISAN MT UMNO AKAN BERUBAH, WALAUPUN MUNGIN NOMBOR SATU DAN 2 KEKAL. HANYA INI LAH SAJA HARAPAN KAMI DIPERINGKAT BAWAHAN. TERUS TERANG KAMI KATAKAN YANG MT YANG ADA 90% PATUT DITUKAR KEPADA MUKA BARU. SEBAB MEREKA NI TIADA MORAL, DAH KAYA DAN BANYAK MASAALAH.
5. MENJELANG 16 SEPTEMBER RAMALAN KEDAI KOPI IALAH ANWAR AKAN DAPAT 30 ATAU LEBIH MP BN LOMPAT. LOJIKNYA ANWAR DAN USA SUDAH SEDAIAKAN 1 BILLION RINGGIT UNTUK TUJUAN ITU. KATA LAH ANWAR BELI 50 ORANG MP BN, SEORANG MP KAN DAPAT 20 JUTA RINGGIT. PASTI HASRAT USA DAN ANWAR AKAN BERJAYA. TAKKAN BN DAN PAKLAH NAK BERDIAM DIRI. OPTIONNYA IALAH BUBAR PARLIMEN. TAPI BN MUNGKIN KALAH LEBIH BESAR SELAGI PAKLAH MENERAJUI BN DAN UMNO. LALU APA? MAGERAN???
6. MAGERAN MEMANG LOJIK, SEBAB KESELAMATAN NEGARA TERANCAM KERANA CAMPURTANGAN ASING. TAPI SIAPA YANG PERINTAH?, AGUNG ?, TENTERA? ATAU KSN? ATAU PAKLAH LAGI?
7. KALAU PARLIMEN DIBUBARKAN, KAMI MOHON TUN BERTANDING SUPAYA SUARA TUN DIDENGAR DIPARLIMEN. TAPI DIMANA? HANYA 3 PILIHAN. JANGAN BALIK KEKUBANG PASU , SEBALIKNNYA BERTANDING DI PUTRAJAYA, PERMATANG PAUH ATAU KEPALA BATAS. KALAH TAK PA, MENAG TENTU BONUS..AND WE GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS. TUN BERTANDING SEBAGAI CALON BEBAS
Tun Yang Dihormati,
Cara dan resmi orang Melayu, Tun, memang cantik. Sangat bertolak ansur. Lemah lembut, berhemah dan berbudi. Melayu menghormati siapa jua, tak kira bulu.
Jelajahlah ke kawasan-kawasan pedalaman dalam negara, tentu kita boleh tengok macam mana dua atau tiga keluarga-keluarga Tionghua atau Hindu boleh tinggal dengan aman di tengah-tengah perkampungan Melayu.
Kalau di Kelantan tu, keluarga-keluarga Tionghuanya sampai boleh âkecek Kelateâ. Di Batu Pahat, Johor pulak diaorang sangat mesra dengan orang kampung sampai boleh ângomong Jowoâ. Kat Terengganu âpung gitu jugeâ boleh ikut loghat orang sana dan serasi dengan nasi dagang.
Inilah agaknya yang boleh kita tafsirkan sebagai kompromi dan keterbukaan Melayu. Dan keterbukaan macam ni patutnya dihargai oleh kaum lain. Kaum Tionghua dan Hindu yang hidup bersama kita kat negeri ini perlu menghargai persefahaman yang terjalin sejak lebih seratus tahun dulu sampai sekarang.
Kalau tak ada kompromi dan persefahaman macam ni dah lama negara kita hancur, berkecai.
Tapi, macam mana pun, kunci kepada persefahaman ini bergantung pada pemimpin-pemimpin sendiri. Kita perlukan pemimpin berwawasan, berpandangan jauh untuk menggarap perpaduan, persefahaman rakyat. Yang ada la ni dah tak larat nak cakap lagi ……….
Dear Dr M,
“The finest qualities of our nature, like the bloom on fruits, can be preserved only by the most delicate handling. Yet we do not treat ourselves nor one another thus tenderly.”
Henry David Thoreau
1817-1862, American Essayist, Poet, Naturalist
Salam Ayahanda Tun
The Bar Council aspires to become the 4th wing of the government. They have transform from a association of lawyers to a political movement.
Yes, their behaviour is somewhat arrogant and totally insensitive. All of them should be detain under the Internal Security Act (ISA) and charge under the Seditious Act. This is why these laws exist. National security and public safety is of outmost importance in any country.
No matter what reason given, no matter what the cause, issues regarding race and religion should be discuss behind close doors. Havent history taught us all that wars were fought because of religion. The crusades is an example of it. Racial wars also could happen. Have we forgotten Rwanda? Malaysia, May 1969?
Responsible people act responsibly. They use their intellect and compasion. We cannot be consume by our petty differences. We must be united in a common interest. Peace and Tolerance. That is Malaysia.
Salam Ayahanda Tun dan rakan-rakan
paiz
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Pandangan saya pada tun adalah pemimpin sekarang tidak berani bertindak hanya sekadar pandai bercakap baik PM, TPM ataupun Menteri disebabkan oleh kisah sebalik takbir. Kebebasan yg diberi kerajaan memakan diri sendiri.
Apa nak buat tun, kaki bodek dan ampu mengatakan ini yang terbaik. Sebenarnya di Malaysia, Kebebasan perlu terkawal kerana sejarah silam. Saya membesar di zaman tun. saya rindu kepinpinan tun. harapan saya dan mungkin semua rakyat malaysia sekiranya tun ada pilihan pemimpin, suruhlah bangun bersuara dan bertindak. Menjadi pemimpin dan hero rakyat pada waktu ini adalah amat sesuai. kerana kita ketandusan pemimpin seperti ini.
Salam
Semoga sihat walafiat
Salam Tun,
I have been following your comments for a while now and have been impressed with some if not all of your views. And this is no exception…spot on. If chaos rules in this country, all would suffer. I hoped everyone, irrespectve of their beliefs & background, should be more responsible and tolerant as one wrong step could see this country desecrated.
p.s. Think of our young ones…
Regards.
Salam TUN yang dikasehi dan sahabat2 bloggers.
1.Satu penjelasan yang mantap untuk direnung oleh sekalian rakyat Malaysia,terutama Majls Peguam.
2.Majls Peguam sebenarnya faham akan perkara itu. Tapi mereka2 ini adalah dalang2 parti politik, dan forum berkenaan adalah bersifat politik semata2. Mereka mengunakan platform Majlis Peguam untuk menyampaikan agenda politik mereka.
3.Kesempatan ini diambil apabila mereka melihat ada kelemahan dalam kerajaan. Nyata sekali kerajaan tak berbuat apa2 pun untuk menghalang forum tersebut.
4.Zaid, membisu terus. Tugas beliau sudah selesai setelah kes VC Linggam dan pembayaran X’gratia kepada hakim2 yang dipecat.
5.Berbeza dengan peringatan Dr.Zahid hamidi. Adalah dayus kalau (Umno) tidak mengenakan tindakan terhadap mereka2 yang terlibat dalam Majlis Peguam itu.
6.Tapi yang lain2 kemana. Mana budak samseng dari Padang Rengas tu. Dah tak kuat lagi ker….setelah tak naik pangkat…..terperuk kat JPM jer….Merajuk ler tu…..
7.Ingatan kepada Majlis Peguam. Mereka mungkin tidak berhadapan dengan kerajaan yang lemah ini. Tapi mereka mungkin akan berhadapan dengan api kemarahan rakyat jika terus mencabar dan mempermainkan isu2 hak orang Melayu dan Agama Islam.
TUN, terus kan lah memberi maklumat2 yang penting untuk direnungkan oleh rakyat yang maseh setia dan sayangkan TUN.
Tun, jaga kedihatan. Kami maseh mahu Tun terus aktif dalam politik “GLOCAL”…..
Teruskan usaha TUN menegakkan kebenaran. Kami tahu TUN telah lakukan banyak perkara yang benar dan betul.
“A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has chance to get it’s pants on”
–Winston Churchill.
Well said Tun. Keep it up.
There were some comments on TS Hassan Marican’s resignation. He only resigned from posts chairman & director of Petronas Gas Berhad but still retain his post as Petronas’ president & CEO. (Note: Petronas Gas is a subsidiary of Petronas)
“And talking about civilised discourse, the terms used like “flaw in YOUR logic”, “NOT ALLOWED to SO MUCH as to enquire” and “BARBARIC” shows some emotions have been stirred and fingers are pointed even by a simple open blog like this. So you are a good example why an open forum that pretends that sensitivities don’t exist just won’t work to solve problems. Create problems-maybe, Solve, I doubt it.”
You are naive indeed if you think the problems aren’t already there. Pretending to not see problems doesn’t mean they do not exist. As for your sensitivities, they are irrelevant and insignificant when compared to the issue of racial fairness and equity, which are far more important. I hear UMNO cronies are sensitive about their ability to plunder the national coffers being interfered with, perhaps we should respect them by keeping quiet. I hear Pak Lah is sensitive about being overthrown from his UMNO party position, perhaps we should respect him and turn a blind eye to his doings of bribing the ketua-ketua bahagian. I also hear Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe is also sensitive about Morgan Tsvangirai challenging him for the presidency, perhaps he should be allowed to continue his dictatorial rule over the country. If you challenge these sensitivities, you are inviting violence and bloodshed upon yourself, and it’s your own fault. Better leave them alone!
Do you see how ridiculous this “sensitivities” logic is now? Any sensible person would laugh it away in dismissal, because it is nothing short of blackmail against democracy and the rule of law. The only way this travesty can take place, is if the majority decide to discard all pretense of civilizedness and fairness, and behave like barbarians.
the malay lawyers should not hesitate to boycout Bar Councils as a sign of protest. Demonsrate your stand!
Dr. Mahathir,
Hi there. You mentioned the following:
“I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country. It had paid off handsomely. We would not be where we are today if we slug verbally or otherwise, at each other every day.”
Here are my views on your statement.
1. I have always admired your guts in speaking out against the west and your visions in making Malaysia known to others in the world.
2. I believe that you’re a smart politician, better than your ability to be a medical doctor. As smart as you are as a politician, you are also cunning as a fox in refusing to talk about the sensitive racial issues thatâs crippling the minorities for decades.
3. You know very well that the NEP cold have been abolished in 1990, but you very well knew as a smart politician that you will be hated by the Malays forever if you had done so. On the contrary, I believe that the Malays, although they may have hated you by abolishing the NEP in 1990, in the long run they would have appreciated your move as that would have made the Malays work harder and improve themselves. I’m not saying that all Malays are not working hard, I’ implying that as a consequence of ‘spoon feeding’ the Malays, you will make them feel comfortable and unwilling to compete, knowing that the government is always there to bail them out.
4. You cannot expect to realize the truth if you do not investigate in an unbiased manner. You should know well, as a person trained in math and science, that if the scientist is biased towards an outcome in an experiment, no matter what result was achieved, it will not be a break through. Similarly, if you say that certain racial matters should not be discussed because it may cause violence, it is a ‘fear mongering’ technique that will not allow any debates to take place in this country. Developed nations had their share of disturbances and discomfort and even loss of life when it came to smelling freedom in their respective countries. If Rosa Park did not defy the ruling that separated the sitting of black and white in public buses by sitting in a seat allocated for the whites, the Civil Rights movements would not have materialized in the United States.
5. So, when you say that Malaysians are only paying a ‘small price’ by not discussing certain sensitive issues, I totally disagree with you. Let’s see how big of a price we are paying by not discussing and debating sensitive issues.
a. The Malays, although may feel good that by not discussing sensitive issues like the NEP and other racial issues, can continue to benefit from the Government plans. This only makes them more comfortable and produce the kind of graduates we are producing today where all the universities in Malaysia have been demoted in their world ranking except for UTM ( please see Bernama News on Nov 13, 2007 or visit http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v3/news_features.php?id=295773
b. The non-Malays, on the contrary are being left behind to rightly pursue their tertiary education and also possibly force many average grade students to begin to work after their SPM or STPM. God knows the countless number of non -Malays who suffered by being forced to convert to a Muslim when they marry a Muslim. Where in the Quran or the Islamic scriptures that mentions the need for a non Muslim to convert when they marry a Muslim. I am not a Muslim scholar, but I am a tolerant human being who believes that every major religion is a love and peace abiding religion but the human beings who twist and turn the facts from the scriptures to suit their own needs.
6. Sir, not discussing the sensitive issues may have paid of handsomely for the Malays, but it has certainly caused lots of hardship and heart breaks for the non-Malays. Our cries and heart breaks will find an answer in the future. One race may dominate another for some time, but no race can dominate another race all the time.
7. You are unwilling to debate and discuss sensitive issues out of the fear of losing your own privileges. It is for this reason that I feel you have failed as a leader who could have been more just for the needs of other races in Malaysia. I can understand the applaud given to you in this blog by the people who certainly have benefitted from your policies. I can understand their joy and happiness. But remember this, the joy and happiness of one race at the expense of another race, no matter how gratifying, is NOT justified and against the natural order created by God.
Until then, take care and I hope that my words, although may be provoking, it was only written from the agony that I feel inside. Like you, every time I land in our airport, it’s a great feeling to land in our ‘tanah tumpah darah ku’. Although I’m a not a Malay, but I certainly feel like a Bumiputera, because if you break down that word ( Bumi = Earth and Putera = Sons and daughters of the soil or in the the Tamil language it means the Prince of the Soil) I am also a Bumiputera in the truest sense of that word, Bumiputera.
I pray for your health.
Take care and God bless.
Anba
I still think the information about Islam needs to be spread to all humanity (by ISLAMIC SCHOLARS of course, not by some random people who claim to know fully about Islam). Ianya juga sebahagian daripada hak sama rata.
I pity the non-muslims in Malaysia since they have bad examples of muslims around them which subsequently makes them not interested in learning the sacred knowledge of Islam. Plus, it has been a natural thing in Malaysia to talk about Islam ONLY and ONLY to muslims. Adilkah begini? We Muslims claim that Islam is the true religion, then why are we restricting the access to Islam??
Jika di luar negara, Islam may be condemned, but the number of muslims are arising there. I am not saying that we need to get more people converted to Islam, I just think that everyone should have access to Islam and be able to learn this beautiful religion. Kalau nak ikut sensitiviti orang 100%, susahlah begitu. Kalau macam tu, takkan adalah pusat-pusat sembahyang bagi orang-orang bukan Islam seperti sekarang sebab tentunya ada orang-orang muslim yang sensitif dengan perkara ini.
Just because there are no cases where muslim women with hijab got insulted in the middle of a crowd and muslim men got shot down down the street does not mean Islam is not misintepreted in Malaysia.
Sekian.
Wallahua’lam
TUN,
VERY WELL SAID.
MALAYS SHOULD REALISE…AS MUCH AS THE MALAYS WANT TO BE LIBERAL, THINK AGAIN WHETHER THE OTHER RACES ARE TOLERANT AS WELL.
OVER THE PAST WEEKS AND MONTHS WE HAVE HEARD MALAYS JUMPING TO OTHER PARTIES, CITING THEY WANT TO WORK OR FIGHT FOR ALL RACES NOT JUST MALAYS. BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS HAVE WE HEARD THE OTHER RACES VOWED THE SAME AGAINST THEIR OWN RACE?
THE CHINESE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE CHINESE RIGHTS. THE INDIANS FOR INDIANS’ RIGHTS. BUT THE MALAYS….WANTS EQUALITY?
People are always sensitive.That is human.It is the politicians who have/had made it worse.You are among them.The Bar council is right in what they are doing.If Annuar comes everything will be right and you have said you will leave the country because you could not do what he could.Just do not harp on religion and sensitivity in the future.The new breeed of Malaysian do not know about it.It is the old folks who fought for the independence are worried that the other races will usurp what they think is theirs.Malaysia belongs to everybody who is a citizen and it is their right to have it.
Tun
This is the best writing from you. I do honour and respect your views. Lets go against Anwar coz he is a person who like to take things to the street. Even PKR also supports the Malaysian Bar Council on the open forum to discuss on sensitive issues.
We have seen Pak Lah sold Malaysia to the Singaporeans, we would also probably see Anwar selling Malaysia to the US.
Hidup Tun!!!
For you Tun, in knowledge I seek, but in greatness and wisdom I have found.
Thank you.
Please talk about Petronas future as Tan Sri Hassan Merican has resigned.
Salam Tun,
My political knowledge is not so good. I am just an ordinary layman person like others. Before, I feel that politics is so difficult to comprehend. As time goes by, as maturity level increases, I soon realize that how silly and common sense the politics is. Politics is about people perception on you and not about what you really are. You may be really dumb but that is not important as politics is more dumber. Politics is all around us. If your parent like you more than your other siblings, then you will get more presents from your parent. If many people like you, then you will have many friend. If you bos like you, then you will easily get promoted. Sadly, that also true in the selection of a leader in a country.
Maybe, we should set a specific law which allows only people who has adequate knowledge and posses high level of academic degrees, at least a Ph.D., can be a prime minister.We need a leader who has a sharp, clear, and critical thinking.
Or maybe, anyone who is going to be a prime minister must first take a special test which tests his mental abilities such as basic mathematics, basic financial, basic laws, basic religious, etc. and also basic skills such as public speaking, debate skills, motivational skills, etc.. If he fails this test, then he shouldn’t be allow to be a prime minister.
Wanbot
So it is back to the Bar Council… Really hot topic, surprised me, they are getting far too much attention that they deserve, all because of our angry reaction to their forum.
Malays are angry at the moment…
Even Khalid’s proposal of opening up Mara to non-Malays were treated with disdain, when such proposal had been mooted before by others.
I went to a boarding school, not entirely Malay like MCKK. We had several non-Malays, and I befriended them all. Some of them were very good in their studies, it created healthy competition for us Malays. Having non-Malays in our school created no harm, and I became what I am in part because of them. At least I learnt many things about people of other races and religion. And this race mixing is not unique to my school, other SMK have this feature as well.
But when it comes to university, everyone becomes defensive. Now it involves a matter of whether you get that scroll which may guarantee you getting a life for yourself. And letting some others access gives you less access, hence no one is willing to move an inch.
To tell you the truth, my perception of UITM is not good. I have worked with many of them, they are not good. Their English especially, are substandard. Their technical capabilities, in my experience, are a bit behind those from other local universities. I even have a sister in law, who is a UITM graduate, who is still unable to get a job that pays above RM2k. I find myself in a lot of pressure having to ‘help’ her find and get that job she wants.
So I find proposals to create healthy competition good news indeed.
Off-topic, being a Malay Malaysian, I was proud to see Chong Wei reach the final of badminton. Hope he gets that gold medal for us, long overdue really.
Sensitivities… I’ve had my own brushes with other races’ nuances as well… I live in a mixed neighbourhood, chinese, indian and malay spread across some 5 km radius. There is a big mosque, a big hindu temple, and a chinese temple. My neighbour likes to play mahjong, but the problem is they invite their friends to come and play, and they play until late at night, even on weeknights. And it gets very noisy… Unlike them who are retired, we are a young couple who are committed at work and needed the sleep. My wife always complain to me, but I always tell her it is ok, we just have to shut the windows, and install an air-cond if it’s too hot. My wife siad, why dont they shut their own windows, cos they are the noisy one… I told her, they are retired, no money to switch aircond every night. I know that if we complain to them, it will only break their heart, and with that, the goodwill that we have created thus far.
You see, it is hard to live with people of different races, but no problem is insurmountable. We dont solve problem by shouting at others. I wanted to write more, but too tired…
My 2 sen.
Hi Tun and Fellow Malaysians,
I am working in the Arab world and I discuss with my Arab friends (Muslims and Non-Muslims) about Islam, Orthodox, Jews and many other religions. Our discussions are always informative, educating and intellectually enriching.
There is nothing too sensitive about these things – provided you are mature enough to handle them. Just like sex scenes in the movies. The scenes may be deemed “sensitive” to a 13 yr old, but to an adult, it’s ….nothing much.
It looks like Muslim Malays (the majority but not all) are particularly sensitive to all things regarding race and religion. I suspect it may be a case of their state of mind being somewhat under-developed.
It would do well for the Government (be it UMNO, PAS, PKR, whatever) to develop the mental capacity and emotional maturity of the rakyat before they start enriching their pockets.
Are my statements above sensitive? But I am merely following Tun’s example when Tun lambasts Pak Lah – ie..calling a spade a spade. The spade may not like being called a spade, but a spade is a spade. Or is it?
Salam Hotmat Tun & Famili,
That’s right,totally agreed with your comments,
The non-Malays and Malays in Malaysia have a lot of sensitive issues.
And now,propagation of a belief by opposition party such as Pakatan Rakyat, Bar Council, Tingkat 4 as propaganda to achieve their political GOALS.
Hidup Malaysia, Malaysia Boleh!!!!
Asslmlkm. Sudah lah tu Tun. You should just retire gracefully. I am not challenged by all these issues because i know I can stand by my own without any crutches. I dont hide behind my race nor religion and make my fellow Malaysians feel any lesser than me. Pls dont stifle our growth anymore. Ingat ingat la pada hari yang sudah senja.
Wassalam.
Perrrggghhhh!!! …. Penjelasan Tun yang cukup padat dan lengkap terhadap puak-puak yang mempertikaikan kenyataan Tun mengenai BAR COUNCIL ! Nah ! Amik buah tangan yang padat dan mampat dari Tun! Jangan anggap Tun macam-macam … Tun dah lama dalam dunia pentadbiran kerajaan mahupun organisasi berbilang kaum … Bukan sehari dua, tetapi berpuluh tahun …. Sepak terajang dunia politik adalah asam garam hidup Tun … Jadi, artikel Tun hari ini, amat tepat dan padat memberi gambaran jelas kepada yang belum nampak apa yang dimaksudkan Tun mengenai BAR COUNCIL …
Assalamualaikum Ayahandaku, Tun yang di kasihi….
Semoga Ayahanda dan Bonda kini berada dalam keadaan sihat walafiat dan ceria sepanjang masa .. Aminnn! …
Ayahanda & para pelawat CheDet.com,
Semakin hari semakin jelas nampak sungguh layu kepimpinan AbDolah memimpin negara ini walaupun beliau sedaya upaya menaikkan kembali popularitinya yang menjunam baru-baru ini dengan menggula-gulakan rakyat pada mutakhir ini dengan cerita-cerita membersihkan dirinya dan menambahpopular dirinya kembali, terkini dikatakan harga minyak akan diturunkan … tak faham? dah menjunam tu, susah la nak naik balik AbDolah oiii! …
Tu la … sejak dulu lagi Tun dah bagitau, TURUN SEGERA, TURUN! Tapi ngkau tak nak dengar cakap Tun … ngkau degil AbDolah! degil! … akhirnya populariti ngkau hancur, tak semena-mena BAR COUNCIL pulak dah berani dan biadap “menampar” muka sekalian rakyat beragama Islam dan khususnya Melayu akibat dari kelemahan pentadbiran ngkau wahai AbDolah …. Inilah yang kami semua tak mahu kat ngkau ni AbDolah! …
Rentetan dari “kasih sayang penuh tatangan” bak minyak yang penuh supaya tak tumpah, dari Menteri De Facto Undang-undang Malaysia (yang suka keMABUKan tu) kerana memberi muka yang lebih kepada “ketelusan” sistem perundangan (secara tidak langsung memberi muka kepada BAR COUNCIL), maka dengan ditambah sifat lemah lembut (baca : lembik!) Perdana Menteri Malaysia, maka BAR COUNCIL mula cuba “mengambil alih pentadbiran” akibat sedikit KUASA telah meresap masuk ke dalam Pertubuhan mereka!
Sensitiviti kaum dan agama selama ini terjaga dan dijaga rapi dengan selamat/elok/baik/bagus/cekap/berhati-hati/terkawal telah mula digoncang oleh PM ini dan Menteri De facto Undang-Undang ini, dengan mereka memberi ruang serta peluang kepada BAR COUNCIL(yang telah mendapat restu penuh mereka – demi “ketelusan Sistem Perundangan” kononnya).
Pertubuhan itu, tanpa segan silu kini telah “berani” mencabar hak-hak Melayu dan Agama Islam.
Inilah nilai harga yang perlu dibayar oleh Menteri terbabit yang telah membuka luas “pintu” kepada ahli-ahli perundangan ini “masuk” membawa belantan dan kayu pemukul untuk memukul prinsip negara (yang menjaga hak Melayu & Islam) selama 50tahun lebih yang terjaga rapi! Kini prinsip tersebut sudah lebam-lebam dibelasah oleh Pertubuhan itu …
Rawatan segera patut diberikan oleh Kerajaan yang bertanggunjawab! jika dibiarkan, ia akan membarah dan membawa padah kepada Bangsa Melayu dan Islam di tanahair Malaysia. Kenyataan ini, bukanah bertujuan mengapi-apikan perkauman, tetapi inilah nilai keharmonian selama ini, terganggunya keharmonian ini, jangan terkejut jika 1969 mungkin berulang.
INI YANG KITA SEMUA TAK MAHU TERJADI – KERANA KITA SAYANGKAN MALAYSIA DAN KEHARMONIAN SEMUA KAUM DI MALAYSIA! …. (Seperti sepanjang tempoh 22 Tahun kepimpinan Datuk Seri Dr.Mahathir Mohammed) …
Kita semua pasti masih ingat masa itu, kita semua (baca: semua kaum) hidup harmoni ketika itu tanpa ada sebarang rasa perselisihan antara kita, kerana menghormati hak-hak dan batas-batas yang telah digunapakai sejak merdeka … Jangan mudah lupa. Demi keharmonian.
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Salam Tun,
It just so simple….
How dare u to say that only want ur rights when u ignore the rights of others?
This people is thinking they’re too smart & that’s the problem…
Today’s Malaysia is STOP moving, STOP leading…
1. Poor leadership of the politicians
– Good leader on the top will create good sub-leaders
– Good attitude show on the top, will follow by the bottom
– Leader able create strong culture, trend and make everyone follow
2. Poor management skills in economics, human, and projects
– Chosen leader cannot demonstrate out-standing management skills
– No impressive ideas, planning, and out-standing results
3. Poor attitude of the politicians
– Most of the politician is not professional
– They did not look like a leader. They have been chosen but they lead citizens to riot. Childish…
– Is there any good way to raise up your concern? If there is no, means government has poor system to allow people to complain.
– Government needs a lot of feedback and improvement to be mroe mature and successful.
4. Do Malaysia has religious department? What is their role?
– I purposely mentioned this because all the politicians are too focused on agama and bahasa.
– Should we create one of this department so that dedicated department and dedicated menteri can make sure our agama and bahasa is well protected. (if other agama is getting stronger, what should they do to make their own agama to be more stronger instead of stopping other’s agame to grow)
– win like a man, lose like a man
– As a result, politician can be more concentrated on country’s development
5. What is the main tasks of the politicians?
– I expect politician to contribute on our country’s development which is relates to technology, economics, and create intelligent youngsters.
– Most of the politicians lack of result
– I believe government should create metriks to measure their performance
– If they cannot perform, please do not allocate them to manage the place anymore.
– A place with no improvement is government responsibility as they did not do their work.
Please accept my apologies as I am not good in writings and if my words hurt anyone feeling. As I believe we need drastic changes to make Malaysia a well-known country.
I want to be a proud Malaysian where our country is good in TECHNOLOGY, STRONG ECONOMICS, TOP 10 UNIVERSITIES in the WORLD, OUT-STANDING LEADERS.
P/S:
1. Poor leaders need more trainings. Give them a chance to prove themselves. Get them to experience on how Multinational company like Intel, Dell, GE and others super company create leaders, superb plan leads with good results, manage good account with intergrity….
2. Please produce politician who can create out-standing result.
Tun, I understand that my topic and your topic is so far different. But I hope and need your help to make all this happens. You are the only leader who creates culture and makes everyone follow.
Thanks
RoySiu
FREEDOM : Are we free to fly like a bird. No, because it’s freedom with limit.Everything created by god has its own limit.No matter how clever we are,we can not do what a small insect can.Every organisation in the world must have the limit.its like saya jaga you ,you jaga saya.Even a small organisation with no limit can create a nuclear bom.Certain thing we can do in public but there are certain thing we must only do it in the dark(not in the public).There is no superiority between bar council and the public elected government.MUATUAL RESPECT is important.
Dear Sir,
I bet Pakatan Rakyat and their die hard supporters are happy that “Freedom of Expression”, “Freedom Of Speech” and “Rights to Demonstrate” are finally alive in Malaysia.
Anybody can now discuss any issues they deemed fit without considering the feeling of others. (Read: Freedom Of Speech)
And if anyone is not happy they can always gather to force the other party to stop the discussion. (Read: Rights to Demonstrate)
Meanwhile, UITM students from all over the country has taken to the streets to protest Selangor’s MB proposal to open UITM to non Bumi. (Read : Freedom Of Expression)
And the best part is if all these lead to a disaster UMNO is there to take the blame as always….
Salam and take care Sir…
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Seriously, this really should have been the way the Government responded….analytical, explanative, terse and, to top it all, common-sensible even to the ordinary man on the street; not the usual dull-witted, sterile, brushed-aside and threatening reactions that seem to be the order of the day these days.But then what can one expect from 1/2p6’ers.
May I say Sir that your take on various public issues thus far … correction: since the days you helmed the Government … merely confirms the special God-given gifts that you are blessed with i.e. analytical prowess,sheer depth of knowledge (on any given subject), the unrivalled power of reasoning and the uncanny knack for unraveling complex issues. As far as I am concern, you stand among the very few and, by today’s standards, a rare and true iconic figure.
I eagerly look forward to reading more blogs from you and may Allah bless you with the best of health. Salam.
Assalamu’alaikum YBhg Tun The Maha Guru,
Sedih sungguh saya malam ni. Semua point dah buah begitu banyak sekali macam ribut datang idea tapi semua hilang masa nak preview. Sedihnya tak dapat nak kongsi lebih2!
By the way Tun pls don’t give up on us as we never give up on you!But the rakyat has surely given up with the present leadership of UMNO – the budulah and his YB2.I’m afraid finally they all become babi2 if they are prolonged refusing to see how sick UMNO is right now!as they never stop eating too what they see they take and never keep for the rakyat, not even leftover. How sad and embarrasing all this!!!
How can we go back to the glory Tun?!
I wonder are there any muslim lawyers in BC? Persatuan peguam muslim etc? What about that solicitor with serban that we always see with Anuar Ibrahim.. I thought he is vocal enough.
Hats off Tun!
You always put it out so simply.
But people try make things very complicated and confuse minds and distress society.
You indeed have a very clear cut understanding and vision.
Please continue to enlighten us.
Dear TUN Mahathir and everybody,
I am sure, many of us is wondering how could the Bar Council Ms Ambiga gain the Datukship and which Sultan has bestowed her the title for she seems not fit or deserve for the title of what she has done to the people and drag them to unnecessary trouble.
Similarly, a few years ago, the Sultan of Selangor has revoked a Datukship from a chinese man who was involved in secret society or gangsterism where His Highness Sultan Sharafudin Idris Shah doesnot want whoever been given the title to tarnish or abuse that title. Same goes to Ambiga (President, Bar Council), for the damage she has initiated, her Datukship should be revoked too, as a lesson to others.
Dearest Ayahnda Tun
Assalamualaikum & salam sejahtera buat Tun & Isteri serta keluarga, semuga diberi keberkatan dan sihat walafiat selalu.
Saya bersetuju dengan pendapat Tun. Pada pandangan saya perbincangan seperti yang dianjur oleh MBC tak patut berlaku dan tak patut wujud langsung. Jika pun mereka mempunyai kemusykilan akan masaalah yang berlaku sepatut nya mereka menasihatkan sipolan yang mengadu, pergi jumpa dengan pihak yang berwajib berkaitan dengan isu tersebut dan bukannya mereka hendak menjadi jaguh kepada perkara tersebut.
Saya rasa bagaikan terdapat AGENDA TERSEMBUNYI dengan perilaku mereka ini. Kalau nak diikutkan bagi kita kaum Muslimin, kita lah yang sepatutnya membuat forum yang membincangkan KENAPA MUSLIMIN DISESATKAN oleh agenda-agenda sekian hari, seperti:
1. Penyesatan Umat2 Islam dari segi pengaruh agenda2 sosial
sekarang oleh orang bukan Islam.
2. Umat Islam sentiasa diperkotak katikan dan ditipu dengan
dakyah2 halal haram.
3. Segala arak, tayangan rupa bentuk pendedahan tubuh, rokok, budaya
remaja bersosial, rempit dll sentiasa menduga keimanan orang
Islam dan juga bukan Islam.
Islam mempertahankan prinsip dan batasan hidup, kenapa mereka hendak menentang. Walhal agama lain pun menuntut insan menjadi iman, tetapi mereka tidak sekuat Islam. Oleh demikian mereka ini mesti mempunyai AGENDA tertentu bagi memporak perandakan hidup seseorang insan.
Sepatutnya kita orang Islamlah yang mesti mendesak agar bukan Islam tidak memperkotak katikan orang Islam. Kita cuma hendak mengajak mereka menjadi lebih bertamaddun bukannya hendak suroh mereka berbogel / berhomosek / merendahkan akhlak dsgnya.
Sekian saja pandangan dari saya. Terima kasih banyak2 Tun kerana masih mempertahankan Negara, Bangsa dan Agama.
Wassalamualaikum Ayahnda Tun. Semuga Tun sentiasa berada disisi lindungan Allah.
Salam.
Lihatlah siapa orang kuat BC? India….over dalam apa jua bidang. Kebanyakkan orang India yakin dia apa yang dia fikir betul walaupun sebenarnya tak berapa betul…. Lagi satu, mereka ni kalau bab tunjuk kesalahan orang lain mereka akan buat hingga tahap memalukan orang tersebut…over la katakan…. Bukan semua tapi memang wujud. Kalau ada yang terasa tu jangan nak kondem org lain je tapi cermin-cerminkanlah diri anda tu bersama sikap over anda tu…takde class langsung!
DEAREST TUN.
Its wonderful, what a valuable statements . Did you read, almost all over the blogs , everyone was happy to read and comment. WHY WHY ? You have planted the peace of mind in all the readers by bringing Unity , Harmony among the races in Malaysia. YOU are the leader.No body will question you.
The silence approach of your posting well accepted today. AS the Malay proverb says” BERSATU KITA TEGUH, BERCERAI KITA ROBOH” OR AS per what you always, say ” KITA HARUS RAPATKAN BARISAN BILA MUSUH MENYERANG” .SO WE must be united. Who can unite the malaysian ? ( not 1 race). It you only. COME 100 BAR COUNCIL , WE CAN JUST TRASH THEM if we are United.
The power of speech in you can create millions of people behind you. I am your admirer,since i am 19 years old, now i am 46. Half of my age i admire you. I am with you.
Do me another favour TUN, Please screen all the blogs which is written with bad remarks of any races in this country. Dont publish it. Reject them at early stage or the People in the Power will call you also ” POSTING TERRORIST”. You know why. ?? The have nothing else to do except to find fault against you.
LET ME SHARE AN ARTICLE HERE TO SOME OF THE READERS. THE LATEST CANDIDATE FOR BN FOR PERMATANG PAUH – DATO ARIFF SHAH. WHO CLAIMS TO BE CHAMPION FOR THE MALAYS , IS ACTUALLY MADE BLUNDER, AND CAUSED TROUBLE FOR THE MALAYS IN JELUTONG, PENANG. HE NEGOTIATED THE MASJID LAND, MALAY LAND FOR A HOUSING DEVELOPER AND MADE HIM SUCCESS BUT THE MALAYS IN JELUTONG SUFFERS. THE LAND TOOK BY THE DEVELOPER WITH JANJI KOSONG AND THE ORANG KAMPONG KENA TIPU. THIS IS THE KIND OF PEOPLE THE PM IS NOMINATING. WHAT A MESS HE CREATING.
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TUN,
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salam perjuangan
_ashar_
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TUN,
Antara BN dan PKR…??
mana pilihan hati?
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salam perjuangan
_ashar_
.
Remember!!!
Please refrain to smoking this side right here right now. It’s unhealthy very dangerous for me, for you, for us as well..
Thank You..
Assallammualaikum,
Dear Tun,
What more can be said with your complete clear and precise explanations. To me it is plain and simple as being preached by NABI S.A.W – ” Kalau kamu mahu dihormati maka sentiasa lah menghormati akan orang lain.”
Our prayer to YOU and TSA for all the good health and blessing from
ALLAH SWT. as always.
Wassallam.
Kesilapan Manusia Di Zaman Kekeliruan
Anas ibn Malik berkata, âNabi s.a.w. bersabda:
âZaman Dajjal adalah zaman kekeliruan. Manusia akan percaya pendusta dan tidak percaya orang yang berkata benar. Manusia tidak percaya orang yang amanah dan mempercayai orang yang khianat.
Persoalan sekarang: Adakah negeri kita sekarang boleh di takrifkan dalam keadaan seperti zaman Dajjal?
Salam, Tun,
Saya amat bersetuju dengan para 20. Banyak orang bersikap kita boleh kutuk semua orang tapi jangan kutuk kita.. Ini semangat gangster. Ada orang boleh membuat lelucon ke atas agama mereka ttapi mereka harus tahu yang kita tidak membuat jenaka ke atas agama kita dan juga agama lain.
Bagi saya, Majlis Peguam dan juga mereka yang mengendalikan Majlis tersebut (Pengerusi dan ahlinya) tidak pernah memperjuangkan keadilan dan hak. Kesemuanya berkpentingan peribadi, dan mencari peluang untuk “grandstanding” untuk dapat anakguaman yang akan membayar yuran guaman untuk firma mereka. Majlis Peguam tidak pernah menegakkan hak orang ramai sekiranya bertentangan dengan kehendak mereka di dalamnya. Saya masih ingat tentang satu kes yang mana seorang anggota polis berharap untuk menyaman satu orang awam yang telah melaporkan beliau menerima rasuah setelah pegawai polis tersebut telah didapati tidak bersalah. Nazri, masa tu menteri undang2 membangkang keras hasrat polis tersebut. Dan Majlis Peguam secara convenient tidak membuat sebarang kenyataan di dalam perihal ini.
Majlis Peguam harus sedar bahawa di dalam menegakkan keadilan, mereka perlu terlebih dahulu mengambil tindakan untuk memastikan semua peguam adalah layak untuk memberikan khidmat mereka supaya masyarakat tidak diperdayakan untuk memperolehi hak mereka. Hak warganegara untuk mendapatkan perkhidmatan peguam yang benar-benar layak kerana di atas kecuaian peguam merupakan juga penindasan dan penafian di atas hak mereka. Kealpaan Majlis Peguam dan juga sikap endah tidak endah ini yang membenarkan peguam-peguam yang jahat, tidak layak, penipu dan yang “blur” dibenarkan untuk menjalankan praktik mereka.
On more nostalgic punya isu, i literally crossed your path some 30 years ago when you came to my village in terengganu to membuka rasmi sekolah kat situ. You were then menteri pelajaran. And again 10 years ago during SUKOM…face to face..and i had masa tu TIME magazine with you on the cover..thought of asking you to sign the mad, but i was so overwhelmed (takut)…
Saya doakan kesihatan dan kebahagiaan kepad Tun dan keluarga.
Dear Tun,
I just wonder mana si budak Zaid sekarang. Dia dah senyap je ikut style Tun Musa jadi “elegant silence”. Dengar kata dia dah tender resignation. Baguslah tu. Right move. After all dia jadi Menteri melalui “BACKDOOR OF THE BACKLANE” of Seri Perdana !! No class and no standard for a supposed to be a very well known successful bumiputra “LOYAR”!
Dear Tun and readers,
As we are progressing, I think it is good for the Bar council to conduct such a forum to discuss varying sensitive issues. Notwithstanding, they are composed of the ‘just’ and the ‘fair’ and absolutely not the politicians. The only problem is they are dumb enough to test the deep water before trying the shallow one first.
In other words their sensitivity-o-meter is very insensitive. This is very dangerous as if your car speedometer is detecting 10m/h but indeed the speed of traveling is 100m/h.
If they are smart aka sensitivity-o-meter is sensitive, they can try increasing the speed a little bit. Wait a little while, see the response. If the car is still intact , they can increase the speed more.
But now unfortunately, the car has lost the window and the door and still they want to increase the speed. So pathetic the bar council is.
Dear Tun,
The Bar Council members are hypocrite people of the first order. If this country becomes chaotic because of their insensitivity by continuing harping on sensitive issues, I think they will be the first people to run away. They know that they will be the first to be slauhgtered for their irresponsible action.
These are the so-called the few elite arrogant people within our society trying to be smart alec.They thought that this is the right time to be heroes and champion for the people.
Assalamualaikum WBT,
Dear Tun,
It’s very saddening to see what has become to our beloved country. The day you made known of your intention to resign, i knew something like this is inevitable. I just didn’t see anyone in the government who’s of your caliber. I was sad the day you left the government but i became more sad looking at the present condition that our country is in. If only the government is not as weak, things like this wouldn’t have happened. How i miss the day you lead us, bringing Malaysia to the eyes of the world with your wisdom and far-sightedness. You are truly one in a million Tun. I will always pray for your good health, and may Allah protect you and your family. Thanks for everything that you have done for us. Your sacrifices are priceless. Take care Tun.
salam Tun,
Bar council memang naik minyak sejak kerajaan bagi ex-gratia spt yg Tun ckpkan tu… nampak sgt dorang ni tak telus dan tak jujur…dan banyak berkata bohong…tp yg sedih tu ada gak yg menyokong…yg non-malays memanglah sah2 menyokong, tp yg bijak pandai melayu pun sokong jugak…pd pendapat saya tak kisah benda2 ni dibincangkan, tp bila dah timbul banyak tentangan sepatutnye dorang lebih bersikap ‘terbuka’ menerima tentangan ini, maksudnya dorang kenalah bijak sikit berfikir…buatlah secara tertutup…ikut pintu belakang org kata…then barulah tak menerima tentangan! ini tidak berdegil nak teruskan…hah ni lah padahnya, terus org menentang…padan muka dorang ni…
pendek kata dorang ni nak tunjuk hero dan berlagak nak mampos, dorang fikir ni negara mak bapak dorang kot!(ni kira marahlah ni)
pada saya, benda ni (forum ni) mungkin boleh memberi pandangan utk memperbaiki sistem yg kita ada, dan mungkin jugak utk melihat perkara2 yg berbangkit disebelahsebelah pihak…saya tak nafikan sebab saya seorg yg berilmiah (jadik mungkin ada kebaikkannya), tp lihatlah suasana persekitaran kita dan pandai2lah adapt, jgn main serbu aje…betul tak…
saya percaya dan yakin jika kerajaan yg menerajui Malaysia masih bersikap lemah lembut spt skrg ini, perkara2 sensitive ini pasti akan berulang/berbangkit…
oleh itu saya berharap pemimpin2 Melayu akan bangun memperjuangkan maruah org2 kita ditanah air ini!…bukannya pemimpin yg nak bersenang lenang, gunakan duit rakyat membazir sana sini…pemimpin sebegini adalah pemimpin bodoh!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Apa yang Tun tulis saya bersetuju 100%. Bila kita lemah orang akan pijak-pijak kepala kita.
Tun, hari ini ada berita gembira untuk peminat sukan dan rakyat Malaysia. Lee Chong Wei telah mengalahkan pemain Korea Selatan Lee Hyun-il dengan 21-18, 13-21, 21-13. Pingat Perak sudah berada ditangan. Mudah-mudahan kita mencapai emas olympic buat julung kalinya pada 17hb Ogos 08 nanti. Marilah kita sama-sama berdoa semoga hasrat dan harapan negara kita Malaysia tercapai.
Satu lagi perkara yang menarik perhatian saya ialah apabila Chong Wei mendapatkan jurulatihnya Misbun Sidek dan memeluknya dengan penuh mesra tanda ucapan terima kasih dan Misbun telah menggosok2 kepala Chong Wei. Tersentuh hati saya melihatnya.
Satu lagi berita hari ini ialah Mohd Saiful Bukhari telah melakukan sumpah mubahalah di masjid Wilayah Persekutuan dengan disaksikan oleh tokoh agama serta orang ramai dan pemberita2. Hanya orang yang benar-benar yakin kebenarannya yang sanggup berbuat demikian.
Beranikah pula Anwar nak ikut jejak Mohd Saiful Bukhari?
Anwar boleh berbohong kepada seluruh rakyat tetapi Anwar tidak boleh berbohong kepada Allah dan kepada dirinya sendiri. Sebab Allah tahu dan dirinya juga tahu apa yang dia telah lakukan. Diharap pengundi-pengundi di Permatang Pauh menjadi pengundi yang bijak dan membuat pilihan yang betul dan tidak mudah tertipu dengan pemimpin yang mementingkan diri.
Makin jelas tindakan Tun terhadap Anwar 10 tahun yang lalu adalah benar.
Semoga Tun sentiasa dirahmati Allah. Amin!
Salam TUN,
1.As always a great piece of writing on sensitivities.
But there are hypocrits in this country, trying to create chaus
and problem.
2.For everything there is a price, even for country peace and stability that these hypocrits cannot understand or just do not want to understand.
3.Hypocrits are here trying to make a name for themselves. They may succeed in achieving this.
4.Since nothing is free, they will also end paying a hefty price.
Salam TUN,
Ke mana hilangnya pembesar-pembesar Melayu Malaysia?????????
Kuasa K Ambiga lebih berbisa! atau sengaja panaskan sentimen perkauman.
Yang tinggal hanya Datuk Ahmad Zahid Hamidi yang lantang membela melayu Islam disokong oleh hanya NGO-NGO melayu.
Datuk Ibrahim Ali bebas bersuara sebebas-bebasnya, “nak suruh anak cucu kencing atas kubur kita sendiri ke”
Wahai pemimpin-pemimpin Melayu yang hebat dan lantang bersuara,berapa lama masa yang diperlukan untuk memikirkan perkara ini.
Sedarlah pelajar-pelajar melayu yang membantu pembangkang dalam PRU12.Pastikan Permatang Pauh jangan lagi jatuh ke tangan pembangkang.Hidup UMNO!
Salam Tun,
saya betul-betul takut sekarang ni. melihatkan mahasiswa kini makin gila akan kuasa. di mana munculnya pakatan aspirasi yang menyokong kerajaan dan di dalamnya makin ramai orang-orang yang kononnya menyokong kerajaan walhal pada hakikatnya hanyalah pengkhianat yang dahagakan kuasa. saya tidak dapat bayangkan apa akan jadi kalau mereka suatu hari memegang tampuk pemerintahan negara. lagi satu saya agak hairan dengan media massa yang menunjukkan demonstrasi pelajar uitm yang menyelar menteri besar selangor iatu datuk khalid kerana cadangan beliau. dalam siaran media ditunjukkan sepanduk-sepanduk yang kiranya kalau rakyat berbangsa lain baca boleh menimbulkan kemarahan. media kian kurang kesedaran mengenai isu-isu sebegini. memang benar menteri selangor itu telah membuat silap. tapi saya agak hairan mengapa tun menyatakan cadangan itu belum sampai masanya untuk dijalankan. seolah-olah ada maksud tersirat disebalik pernyataan tun itu. rasanya saya faham apa yang ingin disampaikan oleh tun. ‘BELUM SAMPAI MASANYA’………
Dear Tun,
It is indeed disheartening to note that many articles are written saying non-bumis are ungrateful to what they get in Malaysia. There are some who say that non-bumis should go back to their original country. Mind these people, our original country is Malaysia. we can only come back to Malaysia.
To all visitors, please do not misinterpret that asking anything more than we get currently as challenging your rights. Sometimes we need to ask before others can give. Also please do not blame the current generation if their knowledge on the ‘social contract’ is shallow. We should look at the school syllabus whether their knowledge on this is enhanced or not.
The new generation do not know what happened 50 years ago. It is our duty to ensure that these values are preached to them. For many of you, please also understand that we get independence not only through struggle by Bumis but also by non-bumis. Due to that fact, the federal constituition was written. As such it is our duty to teach this to our children.
Do not always write artiles with racial overtones. I think only in Malaysia we have different races with different cultures living harmoniously wihout forsaking their original identity. This is unique and let us keep it that way.
Let us understand each other better and we build a better Malaysia. Do not compare anything with any other country. Malaysia is unique in her own way and for me this is the best place to live in.
However I wish to stress that the diffrences among the races are widening. We should together do something to ensure this does not continue. Let us work together and start to teach our children that cooperation among races are important for our future.
I myself can also write many of the racial slurs, “so called discrimination”, abuse by Malays etc. which I had to go through but what is the point. I have worked myself up and can consider to be succesful. The only thing is I have to work “a little harder” than Bumis due to their advatages which makes them one step ahead.
To Bumis, please understand that majority of non-bumis are grateful for being in Malaysia but there will be some grumbles here and there due to particular situation. These are trivial matters and we should not let these be the stumbling block for continuing our friendship and cooperation.
Dear Tun
Well explained yes we must be people sensitive especially
living in a multi racial country like Malaysia.
Freedom of expression is good but donât cross the boundaries
Racial clashes is one of the worst wars in any country.
To those people who are debating the conversion issues I am
sure there are better place and time to debate these things
The BN government is so weak people out there are so frustrated
we are not moving forward political parties are fighting
for position I am so fed up on what is happening politically
and economically.
Tun keep on writing on what is good for the people and the
country.
take care.
Assalammualaikum YM Tun,
I have always been a big fan of yours for years. Despite your advancing age your mind remains as sharp as ever.
I always like the way you use historical facts to analyse the situation and to support your arguments and decisions.
I believe that there are a lot of people out there who have forgotten or totally ignored what you have spent these so many years in building the country once they got hold onto certain postions and ample wealth.
Your article on the racial issue in Malaysia was quite spot on, as always. During your reign, you had developed Malaysia as a role model of a multi-racial country in the world.
I hope more and more Malaysians will open their eyes and realise the need for reformation or change within the current Government body.
I pray to Allah for a long-lasting life for you. The country sorely misses your guidance.
Tun,
The Bar Council can afford to be arrogant because of the weak leadership of the government. The Bar Council will remain insensitive if we still have people like the current de-facto Law Minister in the government.
http://jurublog.blogspot.com/2008/08/when-malays-are-not-well-positioned.html
Salam Tun,
I’m greatful to Allah for giving you strength and health at this age. And at least still actively guiding us in this blog. Your are not alone Tun! We will always be with you.
The current Government is not just insensitive to such issues, but most of them (ministers) have become comfortably numb to the issues that would bring no political benefit to them.
Masa sudah sampai untuk tubuh parti baru, Tun. Cara ini lebih berkesan dari kita cuba memulihkan UMNO yang telah banyak rosak dengan pelbagai penyakit.
Be strong, and live your life to the fullest Tun.
Thanks Tun.
An excellent article.
The best place for the bar council is Kemunting but donât forget to bring together Zaid Ibrahim the back door minister. Corrupted Minister. Back door could be pm in awaiting as well.
Based on the current issue happened is because of stupid and weak PM. During your time this wouldn’t happen. I do hope that god grant you serenity and wisdom to safe this country for a second time.
Awaiting the fallen of the Pak Tidor so he can sleep all night long. Jgn aku sumpah sampai tak bangun, aku tengah marah ini. Mujur ada org pegang.
Keep on writing. Wassalam
Yes. This time I agree with the point below:
“15. I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country. It had paid off hansomely. We would not be where we are today if we slug verbally or otherwise, at each other every day.”
There is no free lunch in this world. Everything has a price to pay for.
Dear Tun,
What a clever way of putting things in perspective. I truly enjoy reading comments from the Public in response to whatever articles you put in. I now see why the Malaysian public are so gullible and to believe everything they read.
Putting across a message to all people that we should be more sensitive if of course the right thing to say. A point that need no further explanation to be deem correct and winning the hearts of many.
You have side tracked from the main / true issue and have not been fully honest to all your readers. Have you explained to your readers what the Bar Council was trying to raise? Can you elaborate how the forum actually undermines Islam and therefore insensitive to the the malays and those professing to the faith of Islam?
Winning an argument or a point is a simple thing for a person with the likes of you. Educating the Public and explaining the true situation and what the Bar Council intended to address was probably somewhat not important or unpopular decision.
The issue is with regard to the Breakdown of the institution of marriage in our country and how some people abuse the use of religion to get away with it.(One of the issues). Many of us still regard Tun as the Best Prime Minister of Malaysia for all Malaysians. I sincerely hope that you would feel the same.
ASSAMUALAIKUM WBR TO OUR TRUE NATIONALIST; TUN DR MAHATHIR…
DID U SEE BULETIN UTAMA TV3 JUST NOW (8.00PM 15/08/08)?
I DIDN’T EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN NOW..SAIFUL BUKHARI AZLAN BERSUMPAH WALLAHI,WABILLAHI,WATALLAHI DI MASJID NEGERI PUKUL 6.20PM TADI..!!
PERSONALLY, SESIAPA PUN YG BERAGAMA ISLAM TIDAK AKAN BERANI BERSUMPAH BEGINI(KALAU SUMPAH BUDAK2,OK LAH) JIKA TIADA KEBENARAN FAKTA KERANA HUKUMAN DR ALLAH SWT BIASANYA AKAN DI BAYAR ‘CASH’ TANPA DI KETAHUI BILA ,DIMANA,BAGAIMANA ,CEPAT ATAU LAMBAT!
I DONT WANT TO BE JUDGEMENTAL BUT I THINK TUN M’S PRAYER HAS BEEN ANSWERED AFTER 10 LONG YEARS.IMAGINE HOW THIS GREAT LEADER BEEN REJECTED,MOCKED,HATED,DESPISED JUST BECAUSE HE FIRED DSAI 10 YEARS AGO.TENGOKLAH BERAPA RAMAI YG PARTICIPATE REFORMATION RALLY DULU…DAN AL GORE DTG MALAYSIA SIAP BERUCAP DGN KECAMAN DAN SECARA HALUS MENGHINA TUN M DIKHALAYAK (TUN M DUDUK SEBARIS DENGANNYA…!)
SAYA MENJANGKAKAN REAKSI PENYOKONG HARDCORE DSAI IALAH;
1-MUNGKIN MENUTUP TV BILA SIARAN (SUMPAH SAIFUL)BERLAKU
2-MASIH DALAM ‘STATE OF DENIAL’,TAK PERCAYA LANGSUNG
3-MENCEMUH SAIFUL SERTA SAKSI2 KAT MASJID TU &
4-MALU SENDIRI TAPI MASIH MENCARI MODAL ‘COVER LINE’..!
TAPI ITU HANYA KEMUNGKINAN SAHAJA KERANA ORANG YG BERSALAH (& CO)TIDAK AKAN BERDIAM DIRI TANPA MELAKUKAN SESUATU ..TMBHAN PULA NAK BERTANDING NANTI..!!!
Thanks Tun, for the explaination. But then Tun, I just wonder what sensitivity of the non-Malay that could not be touched or had not been touched. I wonder if Malays who served beef in official functions with Hindus officers cared about sensitivity of religion. I just wonder.
Asslamualaiku Tun,
Saya baru saja mendapat tahu Tan Sri Hassan Merican telah meletak jawatannya dalm Petronas. Setahu saya, dia adalah seorang yg berkebolehan dan jujur. Rasanya nak menangis….. lepas satu satu. Tun, Tuhan tak kan megubah nasib kita sehingga kita merubahnya. Apakah yang boleh dilakukan oleh kami rakyat jelata biasa untuk memperbetulkan keadaan?
ASSALAMUALAIKUM WBT.
AYAHANDA TUN & BONDA YANG DIKASIHI,
MALAYSIAN BAR COUNCIL
1.TERIMAKASIH TUN DENGAN PENJELASAN YANG MATANG LAGI BERNAS.DATANG DARI PEMIKIRAN SEORANG PEMIMPIN YANG TERSOHOR DI MALAYSIA DAN DUNIA BAGAIMANA MEMELIHARA KEHARMONIAN MASYARAKAT MAJMUK.
2.BAGI MAJLIS PEGUAM,SATU TAMPARAN PADA MUKA SENDIRI,KONON HENDAK MENUNJUKAN KEPANDAIAN-KEBODOHAN PULA DIPEROLEHI..ITULAH NIAT TAK BAIK PADA TUN..
3.MAAF KEPADA PEGUAM PEGUAM,KHASNYA YANG BERADA DALAM MAJLIS PEGUAM,ANDA DIPERLUKAN DALAM BUAT S & P SAJA,KERANA
*YANG SALAH JADI TAK SALAH
*YANG BETUL JADI TAK BETUL
LEPASTU AMBIL FEES BUAT KERJA SALAH NI..
*BAGI YANG BENAR KATA PADA CLIENT”SAYA TAK MENGAKU SALAH”
LEPASTU AMBIL FEES BUAT KERJA SALAH INI..GUNA PUTAR BELIT,ITU SEBAB KARPAL SINGH TAK SUKA NEGARA ISLAM..TAKUT TAK BOLEH CARI MAKAN..KHIDMAT MACAM NI TAK DIPERLUKAN
Dear TUN,
Thank very much for the wonderful article. It builds up my confidence to explain to whoever looking for trouble – irrespective of Malays/ Bumiputra, Indians, Chinese or othe races in Malaysia. Some Malaysians like to try out ideas from western countries to suit our life. Some are Malays whom you sent oveaseas to study and came back to destroy our unity instead of paying back the scholarship that the rakyat had given. It is good to read but not wise to practise everything. The Indians and Chinese who were sent overseas by parents or whoever, gave the impression to outsiders that the Malays are unfair. Even if it is a fact, one should not expose ones weakness to others because they cannot solve our problem; they do not know how.
We have problems in our family but we do not want outside interference. Do not be like Anuar Ibrahim, when in trouble call US for help. We have a family squabble, it is not wise for anyone to pay gangsters to defend him/her.
Let us be rational about this.
SALAM
Dear Tun
Nak tanya, apa hal dengan Petronas ni. Hari ni dah 15 Ogos, tapi takdak pun iklan Merdeka Petronas dalam TV. Tiba-tiba yang keluaq berita Hassan letak jawatan.
Dear Tun,
Malaysian lost a great leader when you step down from being our Premier. Reading your writing brings such sadness; knowing that you could have done so much more for the good of our country.
Great Leaders comes only but once.
I wish those that “hates” your leadership, especially those who think they are “better-off” in another country could read what you have written.
I love reading your blog, for those who knew prefectly well what you were doing then was for the good of Malaysian, we are the fortunate many. Trouble was, there are also many of those who do not see your act of wisdom during your era as PM of Malaysia. And they love to talk about their “racial discrimination” to their “orang puteh” friends to get cheap sympathy and that makes them feel good. Worst is that they have the guts to come and tell us how fortunate they are living in “orang Puteh’s” land. I only thing I see is that they get good hand-out easily. And if they convey their earning into Malaysian Ringgit, than it sounds sooooo much compare to us earning in Malaysia.
The NEWS media should/must print your writing and the world must read your wisdom of your thoughts. The world would be a better place.
Dear bloggers, we are BLESS having Tun for so many years and wish we could still have his wisdom in the governing of our country.
Just praising his wisdom is simply not enough.
FOR THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO?
Can somebody out there start “doing something” PLEEEEEEASE.
Miracles don’t just happen these days.
From my most humble heart, I pray for Tun and Toh Paun’s good health and be blessed with all the good things of life.
Michael OOI
Salam Ayahanda Tun. A writing master piece delivered with political gusto and medical precision. It was a comprehensive observation retold in a straight manner. There is not much else to add or mention apart from agreeing whole fully with the mentioned views. Take care and warmest regards, – Kamal.
dear sir
been reading your views recently
a great found
thanks
SALAM PERJUANGAN BUAT TUN YANG DIKASIHI.
1)Demokrasi ibarat ikan…ikan banyak jenis…ada ikan besar ada ikan kecil,ikan juga boleh dimasak dengan bermacam-macam cara mengikut resepi dan citarasa tukang masaknya….namun ikan tetap ikan walau dimasak pelbagai cara….
2)kerajaan adalah nelayan,iaitu orang yang mencari ikan dengan pelbagai cara ,menjaga ikan dan memastikan ikan akan sampai kedarat dengan selamatnya.
3)Bar counsil adalah tok peraih ikan didarat…orang tengah yang ada kuasa memilih ikan mana yang sesuai dan boleh tawar menawar pula…biasanya mereka akan membeli ikan yang paling baik dengan harga yang paling murah walau dengan cara apa sekalipun.oleh kerana mereka ada kuasa,wang dan menjadi tempat para nelayan menjual ikan …maka mereka akan berpakat sesama mereka atau memulau dari membeli ikan jika harga yang mereka kehendaki tidak dipersetujui oleh nelayan…
maka nelayan terpaksa rela dan akur dengan kehendak tok peraih ini.
4)Oleh kerana ikan yang paling laris dan menjadi idaman ramai iaitu ikan “ketuanan melayu” dan ikan”memeluk islam”…jadi mereka sanggup berbuat apa saja untuk menarik perhatian orang ramai untuk menjual ikan itu walaupun telah ada kedengaran dari pihak nelayan yang tidak setuju ikan itu dijual secara terbuka.maka ramailah orang yang berebut-rebut dan berbalah kerana untuk mendapatkan ikan itu.
5)Walaupun dua ekor ikan jenis itu telah diketahui mahal harganya dan menjadi idaman ramai…tapi persatuan nelayan yang ramai tidak boleh berbuat apa-apa…apa lagi untuk memarahi atau menghalang pihak tok peraih itu kerana menjaga periuk nasi masing-masing…malah ada yang tidak mengaku ikan itu ditangkap oleh mereka…dan ada juga yang mengaku tidak kenal langsung tok peraih itu..tapi selang beberapa hari selepas itu maka ketua nelayan merangkap ketua persatuan nelayan tampil memberi amaran kepada tok peraih ikan(bar council) jangan menjual 2 jenis ikan itu secara terbuka lagi kerana takut boleh mendatangkan huruhara dek kerana perebutan ikan itu..beliau juga mengugut tok peraih yang mereka akan buat mogok…tidak turun kelaut menangkap ikan jika tok peraih buat macam tu lagi…maka pihak tok peraih akur dengan arahan ketua nelayan itu…namun jauh disudut hati tok peraih…masih mempunyai keinginan yang membara untuk menjual ikan-ikan itu dimasa depan…kata mereka lagi ..ikan ni..kalau tak laku pun kita boleh makan sendiri ..rasanya memang sedap walaupun kebanyakan mereka menjadikan maruku sebagai makanan mereka….
6)Dalam pada itu ada seorang kaki pancing yang bernama anwar..memang telah lama mengidam untuk menjadi ketua persatuan nelayan itu…dulu dia adalah ahli persatuan itu tetapi telah dinyahkan oleh ketua nelayan yang sebelumnya(tun) kerana beliau suka sangat memancing ikan didarat…bukan dilaut…beliau juga ada sifat suka memancing ikan dikolam orang lain tanpa pengetahuan tuan kolam,dan kalau tuan kolam tahu pun..tak mengapa kerana tuan kolam telah dibayar wang yang banyak semata-mata ingin memancing ikan.walaupun dia ada kolam sendiri…tapi anehnya ….beliau kadang-kadang mengail ikan yang mahal-mahal dan ikan-ikan yang cantik dalam akuarium dikedai ikan…kalau kedai tutup..beliau sanggup masuk melalui pintu belakang demi memenuhi minat dan hobinya memancing itu..orang tua tua ada berpesan..hobi memancing ni…jangan diamalkan…berhantu…jadi ketagih dan sanggup tipu anak isteri demi minat memancing ini…percayalah.
7)Sikaki pancing itu telah berjumpa dengan tok peraih ikan tadi secara senyap-senyap dan berjanji akan memberi ikan dengan harga yang jauh lebih murah dari harga yang diberi oleh ketua nelayan(paklah).malah..beliau menjanjikan ikan-ikan yang jauh lebih baik dari 2 jenis ikan sebelumnya.beliau pandai memujuk dan berkata-kata manis sehingga tok-tok peraih ikan menggigit jari dan menjadi tak keruan…yang hairannya tok peraih boleh percaya sedang kan mereka tahu sikaki pancing tidak menjadi ahli mana-mana persatuan nelayan pun….dia juga mendakwa sudah ada seramai 30 orang ahli persatuan nelayan yang ingin melompat atau terjun dari kapal menyebelahi beliau..cuma tunggu masa dan ketika saja….
8)Rupa-rupanya sikaki pancing ni ingin memasuki pertandingan memancing di permatang pauh pula…dia kata isterinya telah meninggalkan kolam yang banyak ikan-ikan jinak disitu…dia terlalu yakin memancing disitu..kerana walau apa cara sekalipun dia akan usahakan supaya menang peraduan memancing…dan dia juga telah berpesan kepada orang-orangnya…sila sediakan jala dan racun…jika pancing tak dapat ikan..guna jala ditengah malam..dan jika mahu lawannya kalah….guna racun saja..biar ikan-ikan mati…dia rela ikan mati sebelum dikail oleh pemancing sejati….
9)jadi..kepada orang permatang pauh..jangan sampai dapat ikan busuk yang dah mati atau dapat ikan hidup yang beracun!!!
SEKIAN…DARI WOKYOH……
ASSALAMUALAIKUM AYAHANDA TUN DAN BONDA SITI HASMAH
Anakanda tumpang lalu.
Saja nak cerita satu kejadian benar di Pulau Pinang dalam akhir tahun 1980an. Berlaku satu kejadian samun di sebuah BAR di Georgetown,Pulau Pinang.Kebetulan dalam bar itu ada sekox lawyer TINTED (india).
Lawyer ni punya la eksyen pasai dia ingat dia tu lawyer,terus kata kat penyamun tu.”HEY YOU ALL STOP IT,I’M A LAWYER YOU KNOW!”
Pastu salah seorang dari penyemun tersebut datang kat lawyer tu dan suakan PISTOL kat mulut lawyer buruk tu dan “BEDEBAMM”
Apa lagi REBEH lah mulut lawyer tu .nasib baik tak mampuih.cacat sampai la ni dan bila masuk court jadi macam orang bodoh.
Agak2 nya lawyer2 kat bar council tu pun kena buat macam tu kot!
Semuga Ayahanda dan Bonda selalu di dalam limpahan rahmat ALLAH SWT
WASSALAM
Assalamualaikum YAB(Yang Amat Berjasa) Tun Dr Mahathir,
Peguam kalau diizinkan bercakap, jadi macam tu la…
Kepada samuraimelayu, terharu tengok Chong Wei peluk Misbun. MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!ADEN PUN BULEH!!!TUN DAH DITENTUKAN BOLEH!!!
assalamualaikum wbt.
Ayahanda Tun & Bonda yang dikasihi
MALAYSIAN BAR COUNCIL
1.PENJELASAN YANG AMAT MATANG DAN BERNAS DARI TUN,NILAI PEMIKIRAN DARI PEMIMPIN YANG TERSOHOR BAGI MASYARAKAT MAJMUK DI MALAYSIA DAN DUNIA.HARAPKAN AAB NAK BERI PENJELASAN BEGINI,SAMPAI KIAMATLAH TAK JELAS..
2 BAGI MAJLIS PEGUAM,SATU TAMPARAN KENA PADA MUKA SENDIRI…TAK HABIS BELAJAR NAK DUDUK DALAM MAJLIS PEGUAM,KONON NAK PAMIRKAN KEHEBATAN DIRI,KEBODOHAN DIRI PULA TERJADI..ITULAH NIAT TAK BAIK DENGAN TUN..MALU YANG DIPEROLEHI.
3.MINTA MAAF KEPADA PEGUAM PEGUAM,ANDA BOLEH DIGUNA PAKAI BUAT S&P SAJA, MANA TAKNYA
* YANG SALAH JADI TAK SALAH
* YANG BENAR JADI TAKBENAR
LEPASTU AMBIL FEES DARI KEJA SALAH INI
*YANG BETUL BAGITAU CLIENT “SAYA TAK MENGAKU SALAH”
LEPASTU AMBIL FEES LAGI…SATU PERKEJAAN PUTAR BELIT BUKAN PANDAI PUN
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TUN
BAR Council ni menjadi melampau dan berani kerana kelemahan kerajaan aab.saya telah hilang harap dengan kerajaan lemah ini.
salam sejahtera.
dear sir
been following your views
great found
thanks
That’s why the wise people said ‘It’s not just about what you said, it’s also how you say it’.
If you think someone is stupid, it is your right. But if you go and shout it to his face for no reason, that’s insensitive and thus a wron g thing to do.
Lawyers who chose to disobey rules and law are not fit to call themselves practitioner of law. When the lawyers’ own AGM also can’t be run according to law – no wonder many people demand to be represented by solicitors from England. Maybe we should open up to overseas solicitors to practise here in Malaysia, maybe that will help to raise the standard of the profession.
Dear Tun
You are right about the need to be sensitive about the sensitive issues of various racial groups. It is a very basic skill that every parent should teach their kid – to be respectful of other people. However, I believe that the legal issue of muslim converts should be solved to avoid problems for their families when they die. No flip flop on religion should be allowed. Religion is personal choice – no one could impose their beliefs on other people. But I am sick of reading about the battle between pejabat agama islam with the non-muslims when a muslim convert died. If a muslim decided to convert to islam, it should be done legally including informing their family and if the converts decided to revert to their religion, it should be legally too including a public announcement and change of legal documents to avoid muslim funerals being given to these flip flop muslims. These flip flop muslims are the culprits!.
dear sir
been following your views recently
very informative and enlightening
a great found.
thank a lot
YABhg Tun.
Sudah sampai masanya keistimewaan2 kaum cina dan india spt yg termaktub dlm Perlembagaan dipersoal oleh orang Melayu. Contohnya, apa perlunya sekolah jenis kebangsaan cina dan tamil selepas lebih 50 tahun merdeka? Sekolah2 jenis inilah punca utama polarisasi diantara kaum.
Salam Tun,
Keep it up Tun … I really appreciate it. All Malaysian must read this a very good article. Bravo Tun
Take care…Semoga usaha Tun diberkati Allah
yes, you are absolutely right. Orang Melayu ada pepatah yg berbunyi, orang berbudi kita berbahasa, orang memberi kita merasa. In other words, the feeling of respects must be mutual.
assalamualaikum.
Tun,
good show ,keep it up Tun.we are for u.
Dear Tun,
Sensitivity – you are talking about something which instill in Malaysian many-many years already.
I have friends of Malay, Chinese, Indian, Sabahan, Sarawakian, Muslim, Buddist, Christian, Taoist, Hindu, even native believes. What we known long ago is our MUTUAL understanding of “sensitivity”, which bind us strong together. We are happy, we are close friends. We dont simply cross the border, if we want to discuss sensitive issue, like religion and race, we do it in nice way, not necessary close door. We are mature, we always end up happier after our “sensitive” talk.
What I want to say is, Rakyat know the sensitivity border, is the irresponsible LEADER who provoke the few, to act like monyet and gorilla. It is naive to think the right of Malay and Islam is being “oppressed”.
A responsible LEADER should educate the follower to be mature and concentrate on racial+religious harmony.
If we never uphold the core teaching of our religion, what good a leader can be?
Dear Tun, once again, I urge you to see a wider picture, educate your supporter well.
assalamualaikum Tun,
Setelah sekian lama memendam rasa akhirnya dapat juga saya meluahkan idea dan perasaan di blog Tun ini. Semoga Tun sentiasa sihat dan dipanjangkan umur.
Semoga negara yang kita cintai ini sentiasa aman dan makmur…
Salam Tun,
moga sihat sentiasa.
Sepatutnya penganjur program yang sensitif seperti yang di lakukan oleh Majlis Peguam diheretkan masuk lokap menggunakan ISA. DSAI telah diheret menggunakan ISA sebab penyokongnya berhimpun menyokongnya. Program anjuran Majlis Peguam juga telah menggugat kesejahteraan awam hingga menyebabkan kacau-bilau dengan menyentuh isu sensitif. Adakah ISA untuk kepentingan BN semata-mata? Sepatutnya ISA dapat digunakan pada Ayah Pin dan Rasul melayu tu sekali sebab menimbulkan masalah dengan merosakan agama. Banyak yang perlu diperbaiki. Banyak kerosakan yang perlu diperbaiki dalam negara ni.
Malah pada zaman Tun pun “shit happens”. Bila fikir-fikir balik dan renung kembali dan nilai semula tulisan dalam blog-blog Tun ni. Bukan semuanya berlaku mengikut kehendak pemimpin. Lain yang dirancang lain yang jadi. Bila bermasalah, resultnya di sorok dan diseleweng. Si pemimpin ni ingat dia dah buat yang terbaik untuk rakyat. Menteri yang melaksanakan arahan lepas tangan tangan dan ubah cerita. Akhir sekali rakyat jugak yang sengsara.
Apa pandangan Tun tentang mekanisma pelaksanaan arahan sepanjang TUN memerintah, adakah semuanya seperti yang diarahkan?
Salam Tun
Were is SUHARKAM?
Were is Zaid? Montor..mnetor tahi kuching!
Were is “Im THE LAW”?
Were is PAS?
Until nothing happen to colePs the BAR COUNSIL.
The Bar Counsel is stupid body….not sensetive…just now to use legil word…but reality they are stupid like “SH..”
They try to play with the fire… they do not no were they come from…better they should go back to they country.
They BAR counsil and they member should go to ISA…
Tun you are Prime Miniter Malaysia not Pak Lah!
HUDUP TUN ! HIDUP TUN! HUDUP TUN!
Salam Tun,
Well said Tun. Very interesting. Keep on writing Tun. Regards
Salam Ayah Tun,
Umum mengetahui golongan bijak pandai dari kaum lain di Negara ini dengan bebas mempertikaikan dan menempelak sistem perundangan Islam tanpa sedikit pun rasa hormat dan sensitif kepada perasaan orang Melayu hanya kerana golongan ini merasakan mereka mempunyai kelayakan akedemik dan pengetahuan ilmu yang lebih baik dari orang Melayu yang menganut agama Islam.
Bagaimanakah ini semua boleh berlaku? Saya fikir ianya berpunca dari sikap malas yang amat sebati dikalangan orang Melayu itu sendiri. Ramai dikalangan kita yang mahukan kehidupan yang lebih baik tetapi tidak ramai yang mahu untuk mengorbankan masa mahupun untuk berfikir atau mengerah tenaga. Kita lebih selesa menunggu kerajaan menghulurkan tangan untuk membantu sambil melihat kaum lain berusaha mengejar kekayaan dan akhirnya kita akan mengutuk kejayaan kaum lain dengan alasan hak keistimewaan orang Melayu sudah dinafikan.
Sewaktu Ayah Tun mengumumkan Malaysia bakal menceburi bidang automotif untuk menghasilkan kereta keluaran tempatan, saya yang pada ketika itu masih dibangku sekolah merasa begitu teruja dan sangat bangga dengan cetusan ilham Ayah Tun yang hebat itu.
Walaupun terdapat banyak akhbar menyiarkan artikel-artikel sinis yang menyindir dan memperlekehkan cadangan tersebut, Ayah Tun cekal berhadapan dengan cabaran dan paling dasyat apabila sindiran itu datang dari bangsa Melayu sendiri mempertikaikan kemampuan orang melayu didalam industri permotoran. Saya begitu kagum dengan semangat Ayah Tun yang sangat kental dan tidak tunduk kepada sebarang tekanan.
Pada ketika itu, saya masih terlalu budak untuk memahami apakah sebenarnya faedah yang boleh dinikmati oleh rakyat Malaysia selain dari mampu untuk memiliki kereta dengan harga yang murah. Namun begitu, saya tetap merasa teruja kerana saya fikir rakyat Malaysia akan mendapat ilmu dan kebolehan untuk menghasilkan enjin sendiri dan sudah tentu apabila enjin boleh didapati dengan mudah dan murah, ianya mampu untuk menggantikan tenaga manusia maka banyak faedah yang boleh dinikmati oleh pelbagai industri yang sedang giat berkembang pada masa itu terutama masyarakat luar bandar
Semenjak itu saya menjadikan Ayah Tun sebagai idola saya dan siap tampal gambar Ayah Tun dalam locker asrama saya walaupun ada dikalangan rakan-rakan yang sebaya dengan saya berpendapat Ayah Tun dengan Mat Jenin adalah dari spesis yang sama.
Setelah menamatkan alam persekolahan, saya mendapat tawaran bertugas sebagai seorang Pengurus Acara dan berpeluang untuk mengendalikan banyak majlis-majlis yang dirasmikan oleh Ayah Tun pada ketika itu. Saya mengambil kesempatan itu untuk menghayati setiap ucapan yang Ayah Tun sampaikan ketika berucap dan mengambil nota tentang apa juga yang disentuh dalam ucapan Ayah Tun sebagai sumber ilmu kepada hidup saya…sehingga kadang-kadang saya sampai terlupa tentang gimik pelancaran yang perlu saya aturkan sesudah ucapan Ayah Tun.
Saya dibesarkan didalam masyarakat Felda dan kedua-dua ibubapa saya tidak mempunyai latarbelakang pendidikan yang baik akibat dari kemiskinan malah bapa saya juga tidak tahu menulis dan membaca. Tetapi beliau begitu gigih membanting tulang empat kerat beliau untuk memastikan bahawa anak-anak beliau tidak mengalami nasib yang sama akibat dari kegagalan untuk menguasai ilmu.
Memang benar seperti kata Ayah Tun hanya dengan fasih bertutur dalam bahasa melayu dengan ilmu pengetahuan yang cetek tidak akan menjadikan bangsa melayu mulia dan hebat bersaing dengan negara negara maju. Begitulah pentingnya ilmu didalam mencorakkan hala tuju dan masa depan bangsa, agama dan Negara.
Hari ini saya dapat melihat bagaimana ilmu menjadi kuasa dan senjata kerana mereka yang menguasai ilmu dengan baik mempunyai laluan yang lebih cerah untuk merebut peluang pendidikan, ekonomi dan kuasa politik.
Saya sangat sedih melihat bangsa Melayu terpaksa membawa isu hak keistimewaan orang Melayu sebagai simbol kekuasaan mutlak tanpa menyedari tiada apa yang istimewa dengan orang Melayu sekiranya mereka hanya hebat bersaing sesama sendiri sahaja sedangkan kaum kaum lain di Negara ini lebih cenderung untuk terus meningkatkan penguasaan ilmu mereka sehingga bersedia dan mampu memenuhi kehendak pasaran antarabangsa.
Untuk melakukan sesuatu yang baik itu sememangnya sangat sukar dan penuh dengan cabaran serta pengorbanan dari semua pihak. Tetapi siapakah diantara pemimpin-pemimpin Melayu yang ada sekarang ini mampu untuk membawa orang Melayu keluar dari dunia sempit mereka ini dan sedar bahawa tanggungjawab memartabatkan bangsa Melayu dan usaha untuk memprofessionalkan orang Melayu sebenarnya terletak diatas bahu semua orang Melayu sendiri..Saya fikir Datoâ Mukhriz mampu Ayah Tun!
Dearest Tun.
Excellent articles Tun. Spot on. Tun is very sensitive to the feeling and sensitivity of the multi-racial Malaysian. This understanding is the reason why Tun is able to held the helm of leadership for 22 years. Bravo!!
May God bless Tun always.
Salam Sejahtera Tun,
Orang-orang yang patut disalahkan dari perkara ini:-
1) Paklah – sebab dia tak tahu cara nak tadbir & pimpin negara dengan betul. paklah juga tak tahu nak mengawal sesuatu masalah dalam negara.
2) Zaid Ibrahim – kononnya dia ni nak jadi pakar dalam undang-undang malaysia. Tetapi, dah makan diri sendiri sekarang. Dah tak tau ke mana menghilang sorang menteri nih. Dah masuk Tanjung Rambutan kut? Sebab GILA undang-undang.
3) Majlis Peguam – Mereka ni dah la tak faham sensitiviti rakyat malaysia, dapat pula ‘green light’ dari menteri GILA. Lagi naik minyak la diorang nih. MEREKA NI PATUT DI BAWA KE TAHANAN ISA!! Terutamanya Ambiga.
Diucapkan tahniah kepada Dato’ Zahid Hamidi kerana menguatkan suara islam & melayu. Kami sokong kenyataan Dato’ kepada majlis peguam.
Hello Tun,
As rakyat in Malaysia, I feel sadden that this small issues like this has been blown out of proportion. To me, all “sensitive” issues are as sensitive or not as you want it to be. There is NO hard rule that say YES that is 100% bull’s eye sensitive issues. Malaysian will be Malaysian. It can be Malays, Chinese, Indian or whatever race they are from, bottom line we are all visitors here. Trace back to origins, WE ARE ALL VISITORS.
Down the line someone has make some changes here and there and now… 1 race stand out the most. Who are we to say who? In Australia, it is the same thing that happens. The white claim rights and the local people there are now being pushed aside.
What is so sensitive about it? I guess it all down to FACE VALUE. And EGO issues perhaps or some personal vendetta.
Stop pretending that we actually live in Malaysia harmony. Bottom line, we are not. We canât even speak one language as a nation. Every race speaks own language to one another. If you go to any multi national companies, you still see people of same race sitting together. Anywhere you go there is this invisible line. Now someone tell me, WHO IS SENSITIVE HERE?
Thank you
we should sensitive to other races…
Salam Tun,
Bar Council no use the means right to tackle Muslims. Bar Council can take Muslims case to Islamic court.
This does note. Bar council take approach provoke Islamic law. Whereas design ignorant with the law islam.
make forum will not solve problem of people islam. particularly forum sponsorship bar council that no productive.
but seem bar council stubborn.Not hear advice.
design want good other person but they own not hear advice and stubborn. bar council credibility no self.
person islam have given advice. bar council stubborn. I think proper bar council disbanded.
bar council no help build unity. Malaysia plural country. anytime can fight even if with little cause.
issue of religion is sensitive issue. but bar council as bad people. design like want fire Malaysia.
ok tun….byeeee!!!!!
Salam Tun,
I agree with you ,when you mentioned about sensitives.Human being are sensitive to various issue due toi nmature nature.Bar Council should wait for next 1000 years(If we mature) to discuss about any issue in malaysia,because We all inmature human being.We can’t and will not understand others problems because it very much sensitive to us(What a selffish nature)I wonder Tun!
Salam kepada YAB Tun dan rakan2 bloggers,
Tun, mohon tumpang blog ni untuk menyatakan perasaan kepada pelajar UiTM yang membuat demonstrasi tu…
WAHAI PARA PELAJAR UITM YANG BERDEMONSTRASI…BAGUS KERANA BERSEMANGAT, TETAPI TERSALAH SASAR!
ANDA SEPATUTNYA MENGGUNAKAN TENAGA, MASA, WANG RINGGIT ANDA UNTUK MEMBUAT DEMONSTRASI SUPAYA DOLLAH TURUN, KERANA SI KHALID SEKADAR BOLEH MENCADANG, TAPI DIA TIDAK ADA POWERLA BODO…
DOLLAH YANG MENYEBABKAN NEGARA HURU-HARA DARI SEGI EKONOMI, MAJLIS PEGUAM MENJADI KURANG AJAR, KAUM2 LAIN YANG EKSTREMIS KURANG AJAR, UMNO TIDAK RELEVAN LAGI…SI DOLLAH YANG SALAHGUNA POWER DIA. JADI ALANG2 MAU DEMONSTRATE, TUJULAH KEPADA MUSUH KITA YANG SEBENAR. SAYANG SEKALI…HEPI DOLLAH YOU ALL BACKING DIA MELAWAN ORANG PKR.
NI SEMUA UNTUK MEMBURUKKAN PKR SI ANWAR JUGA (sebab si Khalid PKR), GOOD FOR THE PERMATANG PAUH’S CAMPAIGN, TAPI PELAJAR YANG DIGUNAKAN.
FOKUSLA…ANDA TERPELAJAR, BUKA MATA, DENGAR DENGAN HATI DAN TELINGA. GUNA STUDENT POWER UNTUK KEBAIKAN SEMUA ORANG MELAYU, LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. KHALID IS JUST LIKE ANJING MENYALAK BUKIT, BUT DOLLAH IS THE MAIN CULPRIT.
Terima kasih sekali lagi Tun.
Haaa…… haaaaaa……….
Padan muka kao orang Bar Council….. jangan la sombong sangat.
Sedarlah …. you bar council people, don’t think that you guys are so smart!
Some of you guys, nasib2 je jadi lawyer…… I have some friends dulu masa sekolah….. fail je memanjang, tiba2 dengar buat law kat private kolej, lepas tu pegi london (sebab bapa duit banyak boleh hantar pegi buat Law kat London!). Poo dah!
Dear Tun Dr Mahathir,
We shaked hands today at the National Mosque. The way your eyes scanned the greeters shows that you are still there – one of the greatest leaders the world have ever seen. May god bless you always, in this life and the next.
Let’s throw this to the Bar Council:
“It’s not fair that the Chinese, being a migrant rooted group, to control the Malaysian economy to such an extent that the indigineous Malays, who form 65% of the population, only control 19% of equity ownership, and yet they, the Chinese, complain about assistance and rights given to the Malays, social contract, meritocracy and abolishing NEP”
If we were to discuss this issue openly and press the govt, it would be riots in the streets of Kuala Lumpur and else where, as you said, lives would be lost, properties would be destroyed.
What are they thinking ?
Tun,
Excuse me, please:
SOLCROFT, âI do not think Queen Elizabeth would have been very accommodating of Saudi sensitivities, if she is expected to cover herself up in accordance to Saudi customs every day and not only when visiting Saudi Arabia. Therein lies the problem and the flaw in your logic, TDM.â
1. And you think that your logic have NO problems and flaws?
2. Are you saying that here in Malaysia YOU ARE EXPECTED TO OBSERVE THE CUSTOMS of the Malay and/or the Muslimâs? Come on already!
3. By your moniker, I am not sure of whom you are. Malaysian or not? Malay? Chinese? Indian? Who are you?
4. If you are a foreigner, STAY AWAY FROM OUR âFAMILY PROBLEM!â
5. If you are one of us indeed, how sad and pathetic you are. You made it sounded as though here in Malaysia you are subjected to all kinds of laws, rules, customs, cultures, lifestyles, etc, etc that are associated with the Malays and/or the Muslims.
6. Prior to the present administration led by a TAK CERDIK PM, we, except for few uneducated and uncivilised quarters, which I hope that you do not belong to, respect each otherâs religions, customs, cultures, and lifestyles.
7. We visited each otherâs weddings, festivities, religious places, etc, etc, without any reservations, and we observe the expected dos and donâts.
8. The Malays would not eat beef in the presence of their Hindu friends, and similarly the Chinese would not eat pork in the presence of their Muslim friends, etc, etc. We tolerated each otherâs imperfections. Everything seems perfect UNTIL NOW!
SALAM,
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SALAM TUN,
Saya pecaya kepada PENGALAMAN.
PENGLAMAN ADALAH ILMU TERBESAR DALAM KEHIDUPAN.
PENGALAMAN TUN selama lebih setengah abad sebagai pemimpin dan negarawan menjadikan TUN lebih matang dan berpandangan jauh daripada semua pemimipin yang ada hari ini termasuklah DSAAB dan DSAI.
Tidak akan adanya sebab TUN menolak kepimpinan hari ini jika TANPA ASAS YANG KUKUH.
JADI bercakap hal DEMOKRASI boleh menampakkan kelemahan orang yang TUN TUJUKAN.
TETAPI pendapat saya TUN tidak akan ke mana jika menulis dan hanya bertindak sebagai ‘PENGHIBUR’ dan pembaca merasa ‘TERHIBUR’.
SAYA ingin mengajukan TUN bertindak DEMI NEGARA MALAYSIA.
Bermula dengan ‘TINDAKAN’ BARU DAPAT MERUBAH KEADAAN.
CADANGAN SAYA:
1. TUN perlu mendapatkan sokongan calon pengganti PM yang TUN rasakan layak bertanding melawan PRESIDEN pada EGM UMNO akhir tahun ini dan mencalonkan beliau dengan sokongan MT UMNO.
2. TUN boleh mencabar PAK LAH supaya SATU PETI UNDI KHAS DIADAKAN semasa EGM UMNO nanti bagi melihat sama ada ahli-ahli UMNO masih yakin dengan presiden atau tidak.
3. TUN juga boleh mencadangkan atau mencabar satu poll online diadakan di website PEMUDA UMNO atau website UMNO sama ada mereka yakin dengan presiden hari ini.
CUKUP SETAKAT ITU CADANGAN SAYA KERANA SAYA YAKIN TUN LEBIH BIJAK DARI SAYA MENGENAI INI.
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VOTE SEGERA DEMI MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASALAM
There is no sesitivity in this country.They are created by politician like you to survive.I still remember when the first man to climb Mt Everest was an Indian you asked about the Malay climber.You are the first racialist.I can cite many examples of politician of this category.That was one of the reasons why you were never accepted by the West.Malaysians can live in harmony with all the sensitivity.If they could not it was because of leaders who want to control in the name of majority.What the bar council did was correct.The police are busy defending themselves now.When they have straightened themselves they will come hard on the Lingam case.The AG is busy with Annuar and Baginada.
SALAM TUN,
Sesuatu yang jarang terjadi di MALAYSIA, apabila perbedaan kaum, kritikan terhadap sesuatu kaum atau mencari kelemahan dalam salah satu kaum dan agama menjadi TOPIK PERBUALAN UTAMA.
SAYA MELIHAT KEJADIAN INI AMAT MEMALUKAN DITAMBAH KITA BERADA DALAM ‘BULAN KEMERDEKAAN’.
Semua RAKYAT PERLU BERSATU PADU DAN MENGEKALKAN KEHARMONIAN YANG DIBINA LEBIH DARI SETENGAH ABAD YANG DIBINA ATAS PERASAAN BERTOLAK ANSUR DAN SALING MENGHORMATI PEMIMPIN-PEMIMPIN SETIAP BANGSA DAHULU.
BAR COUNCIL mempunyai TANGGUNGJAWAB MELETAKKAN UNDANG UNDANG pada tahap yang perlu dihormati oleh seluruh warga MALAYSIA .
SEBAGAI SEBUAH BADAN PROFESSIONAL MEWAKILI Peguam-peguam NEGARA, BAR COUNCIL SEPATUTNYA BERTINDAK MELINDUNGI KEHARMONIAN NEGARA.
Saya amat hairan mengapa BAR COUNCIL TIDAK MEMBELA MALAYSIA apabila PEMIMPIN-PEMIMPIN USA CUBA MASUK CAMPUR TANGAN DALAM HAL EHWAL NEGARA.
Saya juga BERSETUJU CADANGAN dari seorang MENTERI KABINET ‘MENGAPA TIDAK BAR COUNCIL MENGHANTAR MEMORANDUM KEPADA KEDUTAAN USA MEMBANTAH CAMPUR TANGAN DALAM HAL EHWAL DALAMAN NEGARA MALAYSIA’.
PEHATIAN!!!!!!!! BAR COUNCIL
Saya MEMOHON BAR COUNCIL
‘MENGAMBIL CONTOH HUBUNGAN ERAT YANG TERJALIN DI ANTARA LEE CHONG WEI, PEMAIN BADMINTON NEGARA DAN JURULATIHNYA, MISBUN SIDEK YANG MELAMBANGKAN SEMANGAT MUHIBBAH WALAUPUN BERBEZA KAUM DAN AGAMA’
HUBUNGAN SEPERTI AYAH DAN ANAK INI HARUS MENJADI TELADAN SELURUH RAKYAT ATAU ‘BANGSA’ MALAYSIA.
PENULIS: HAIRAN MENGAPA KITA DI BAWAH SATU BUMBUNG PERLU BERGOLAK SEDANG ANASIR LUAR SEDANG BERTEPUK MELIHAT KEKUCARAN RUMAH MALAYSIA.
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VOTE SEGERA DEMI MALAYSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASALAM
Salam Sejahtera Tun,
Ikut resam padi makin tunduk makin berisi,
Nampak sangat sejengkal sahaja pemikiran org2 bekuasa dan berpelajaran kat malaysia ni.
Belajar dapat ijazah, hafal buku ilmiah tapi singkat akal fikiran.
sia-sia hantar belajar kalau tak kenal yg baik dan buruk.
Maafkan kalau saya katakan begini, tetapi saya rasa kita tak akan dapat kestabilan di negara ni kalau tak ada sesiapa yg boleh jadi pemimpin yg tegas dan berani.
Sekarang saya tak nampak pemimpin yg mampu membawa perubahan.
Saya rasa kalau ada pemimpin yg boleh satukan semula semua rakyat cuma Tun seorang.
Saya faham Tun dah bersara tapi melihat keadaan sekarang hala tuju negara ni sangat kabur.
Semoga Tun sihat sejahtera.
Dearest Ayahanda Tun,
Harsh as it may sounds in your comments, but word for word it is beautifully applied, but most importantly they contains 100% FACTS.
For a selected few out for Personal Glory, (STUPID AND UNPRINCIPLED BAR COUNCIL )or reasons best known to themselfs they lack far far behind your CONCERNS AND WORRIES especially your Far Sighteness. Just for their own personal hidden agenda, they pawn not only their parents, but OUR COUNTRY as a whole. WHO NEEDS THEM ANYWAY.
Just for your info, Ayahanda, most CHINESE thinks like you.
To most of us, MALAYSIA IS JUST LIKE A TIME BOMB. So am I wrong to say that you are CORRECT? Nobody will benifit. IT is as the sayings goes ALWAYS ‘PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE’.
INFACT ISA (Internal Security act) SHOULD BE THERE FOR A COUNTRY LIKE OURS. PEACE IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
Salam Ayahanda Tun, And May ALLAH Bless You And Family.
Salam Takzim Tun,
The behaviour of the Bar Council is to be expected.They are self appointed guardians of Human Rights in Malaysia.
During your time,the Government had a tight control over their activities that infringed upon sensitive issues.In fact, nobody dared to discuss the 4 sensitive issues as they are forbidden by laws,even in Parliament.We have peace and harmony and the country boomed economically.
But now,because we have a weak Government/Executive with pro Bar Council Law Minister, a friendly Judiciary and seemingly a semblance of support from the Royalty, the Bar Council is just like a Rottweiler being let lose and running wild in an unbridled freedom to bite whom it dislikes!!Sensitivities are non issues in their struggle to ensure freedom of speech, religion ,etc.
If there are troubles, I am not surprised that they are the first ones to take first plane out of the country. They have properties in London, Australia, America,India etc and PR.They are rich.The lives of rich people are more valuable.
The poor Chinese, Indians and Malays have to slog it out and fight each others after their sentiments have been inflamed by the Bar Council protagonists.These ordinary folks from all races are the cannon fodder.
So Tun,what you advocate and rationalise ought to be followed by us for the sake of peace asnd harmony, not only now but also for our future generations.
I recall a laborer who shouted at some body who tried to talk to him about democracy “Go to Hell with Democracy if Your Stomach is Empty “.Bar Council and their supporters/sympathisers have full stomachs after a good dinner of Kobe Steak with Red Wine.
1)i am touched with 15 and 20…
2)dlm bersosial emak selalu pesan..’ biar org brkasar & maki kita jgn kita brkasar dan maki org..’
3)arwah abah saya akan tenung kami dgn matanya kalu melawan cakap org tua…(tenungannya buat kami adikberadik gerun..)
4)’satu hari kita semua akan bersua muka juga.. gaduh2 tak bagus..’
5)kalu takde benda elok nak cakap lebih baik diam…
6)semoga tun sihat dan sentiasa mengingatkan kami ttg hal2 yg baik2..
7)tun, harap tun dpt ulaskan ttg ‘wakil rakyat’ baru Pantai Dalam yg take over fr shahrizat tu….ulas dari segi kaliberity dia, knowledge dia, contribution dia ,credibility, accountability, integrity, genuinity dan how come dia menang dan apa2 lagilah..
and kalu ‘wakil rakyat’ tu UMNO mcmmana?
sorilah saya tahu tun bkn tukang tilik…
sebenarnya saya risau dgn org yg muda2 nak memimpin…
itu perception sayalah….meow..meoww
..
TUN,
Lepas satu, satu isu timbul….
Seperti kehendak KJ,
Tan Sri Hassan Merican yang menaikan nama PETRONAS
melepaskan jawatan hari ini.
Lepas ni Scomi pula ingin memiliki PROTON.
TUN apa dah jadi pada Malaysia,
Pembangkang satu hal pembelot….penipu…
Pemimpin pula dengan anak beranak PEROMPAK…
salam perjuangan…
isteri.antimamak
..
I think most readers who responded to the Bar Council forum with a somewhat jihadist view point have no inkling of what actually went on.
The Bar Council forum panel consisted of legal and/or religious experts. On the panel there were “former Syariah Judge Tuan Dr Haji Mohd Naim Haji Mokhtar, and Institut Kefahaman Islam Malaysia (Ikim) Syariah Law Centre director Dr Wan Azhar Wan Ahmad” (Ref: http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/family_law/bar_council_forum_on_conversion_to_islam.html). The ratio of Muslim to non-Muslim panelists was 3:2. And if these panelists with their impressive portfolios aren’t expert enough, then I don’t know who is.
I think what prompted the Bar Council to hold the forum was the recent rise in inter-faith legal cases such as body-snatching (where deceased members of non-Muslim families purportedly converted to Islam during their lifetime were taken away from their biological families to be buried according to Islamic rites, at a time when the families were grieving the loss of their family members). The court battles and the verdicts that followed recently have shown that the sensitivities of the non-Muslims have not been respected and indicated this is the way it is going to be.
Some readers pointed out what is already enshrined in the Constitution must not be questioned. The truth is, the Constitution makes no mention of such situations nor is there any provision in the current legal system to address such issues as being discussed at the forum. What the Bar Council sought to do was initiate a process to put the missing pieces in place, and to clearly demarcate a grey area as white or black. Unfortunately it was seen as an effort to undermine Islam.
I adopt a humanitarian (as opposed to jihadist) stance on this issue and I see the Bar Council forum as a genuine effort to bring together people of different faiths to discuss an issue which affect them or the people of the faith they represent. I am appalled by the actions of those who stormed the venue to prevent such a good cause from being run. To think that these people who have not had to go through the ordeals the grieving families went through had the cheek to shout about their sensitivities or else threatening violence just disgusts me. These are the people Malaysia can do without.
Tun,
Yes, in view of the multi-racial society in Malaysia and the importance of “peace and harmony”,
all the sentitive issues should be discussed only by relevent leaders in “closed door forum”.
Tun, your clarification here on the “Malaysian Bar council” issue to all the non-malays is very much appreciated.
We support you !!!
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Salam kepada YAB Tun dan rakan2 bloggers,
1. Tun my man, thank you, thank you, thank you for giving us the main points to counter those ungrateful people out there. Me and those who are not verbal, not the extrovert kinds, not witty, not assertive enough appreciate your points, they are simple but powerful sayings, examples.
2. I hope my friends out there start using your democratic rights as stated in the constitution! Get your ideas from Tun’s write-up on social contract, democracy, ketuanan melayu, bar council, majlis peguam, etc. Look straight into the eyes of those ingrates and ungrateful people and shoot your mouth. Don’t have to use english, whack them in bahasa melayu!
3. These ungrateful people are from two categories; the first group are those extremists who are forever unhappy with what the Malays are getting and secondly, those so-called people with new awareness about democracy, liberty, human rights, etc.
3. The first group, the extremist kurang ajar, including bar council. They know very well about the sensitivities that Tun had elaborated, but they wanna gamble…just to check how the malays will react. Strong, mild or weak reactions? Then they will strategize. MY GOD, PLEASE OPEN UP THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE MALAY LAWYERS TO USE TUN’S ARGUMENTS (IF THEY’RE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH)TO COUNTER THOSE OPPORTUNISTS IN BAR COUNCIL..why you let them thrash your religion and race? They deliberately chose to be insensitive. Tun’s simple examples given are logical and simple enough to comprehend. Come on, dont tell me bar council members are damn idiots?
4. Now, how come these idiots from bar council didnt do anything about judge Ian Chin? If the tribunal found those judges guilty and they were given exgratia and the govt refused to disclose the amount, how come bar council idiots kept quiet? Where is democracy? We the rakyat have the right to know (about bar council action on Ian Chin,the amount?) why deny our democratic rights? It’s because bar council is taking full advantage of the sour relationship between Tun and Dollah’s admin…they dont really care about democracy, just a bunch of hypocrites!
5. Now, about the second group of people…shouting about democracy, liberty, human rights, bla, bla..but when they are personally faced with demands, now how many will respect democracy, etc? You will definitely push aside your beliefs on democracy, etc when shit happen to you and your loved ones, right?
6. Bar Council idiots will continue being insensitive because they know Dollah and his idiots are trying to please them, Anwar is on their side, the Malays are disunited, UMNO is a laughing stock now…But, they’re good, they know about the laws and they will ensure they’re within the lawful boundaries! So, the police cannot touch them.
7. Tun knows more than that (about bar council and their democracy)..but Tun being a proactive person could see the dangers coming to us if bar council’s insensitivity continues.
8. All my friends, let’s use our rights to get rid of those idiots in bar council…bar of hypocrites!
Terima kasih sekali lagi Tun.
p.s Betul tak Tun, orang Melayu yang paling kuat dan sensitif menjaga hati orang lain? Kalau tidak macamana dari dahulu lagi kaum2 lain boleh tinggal di sini dengan senang lenang? Orang Melayu akan berbisik supaya tidak menyinggung perasaan kaum lain. Tetapi apabila kaum ini menang dalam PRU tahun 1969, merekalah yang membawa penyapu mahu sapu orang Melayu keluar! Kurang ajar kan? Barulah orang Melayu mengamuk…Inilah yang Tun nampak apa yang boleh berlaku jika kurang ajar berterusan.
Salam Tun Dr Mahathir,
Tun has spoken. Now I understand why people just cannot argue with you. They will loose and eventually get lost. Tun, you are a man of principle and you lead your life with your principle as guidance. Bar Council also have their own principle, and that is to abolished Malay rights… bit by bit. They have started and they of course will bring Anwar to victory regardless he is guilty or not with his sodomy accusation. Why… because Anwar will help them to achieve their aim.
Tun, keep blogging. I am sure many students out there are listening to you. Now, the table has turned… Malay students are for you.
Tun, just want you to know that you are always in my mind. I pray for you as I pray for my own parents. I hope that Allah will put you in the group of Kumpulan Umat Islam yang beriman. Fardhu Ain is easier task to do as it involves oneself, but to commit Fardhu Kifayah as you did for 22 years and still doing it is a rare sample of a True Muslim. Your pahala will tenfold million times. Furthermore you are ultra Malay but you also took care of other races. Majority of them were happy when you were the PM.
Thank you
Dear Tun,
I am great to be part of here making my comment for fellow Malaysians to share.
I would say – any Malaysian leaving in this home country deserved their right. Right that can be seen later by any with their own interpretation and background ( educational level, mindset,cultures,religious belief and exposure to other races ).
It is thus not surprising to see a forum held by BAR COUNCIL eventually received different reactions.Our forefathers with all races fight for merdeka with aim of getting independence.We got it.To achieve this, they were able to give and take.Though there were differences in sharing certain issues, the aim was still clear.
They compromised eventually and they did make it.Salute them as it brought us to what we called ‘Malaysia” today.
Till now, it is a history which we have to remember.Thru pains and disastrous bloodly events, somehow, it became sensitive when we look back.It is kind of wound that never get heal and chronic disease that we chose not to uncover and find out the solution to it. We chose the term : Sensitive – bços we’re multiracial country.
We think this is the best solution to this issue.
But, who chose this.it is the politician.
By name of politician, different point of view , different demand, different … all pop up ! A may interpret his as it is for the sake of race A. Likewise it goes to B which represents race B.
To worsen this, aggressive action seems to be an effective tool for someone to ahcieve his goal.
What is the motif of BAR COUNCIL ?
What has it done in this forum that create bloody event to other races/all races ?In fact, the forum consists of dif.races.
We do not-even sit and listen but turn it down completely with bias mind.
if it is before Merdeka, and our forefathers of all races reacted this way, the British will laugh all the way and we would not be what we can enjoy today.
Unfortunately, after MERDEKA, without BRITISH as master, people tend to demand more and more at their end for one race.So called, deserved right.I would say-whatever our forefathers set in achieving Merdeka is what we have to agree and accept.
But, things get complicated.After Merdeka, more and more new thigns pop up.A piece of cake when it gros bigger-MASALAH.A piece of cake while it is shrinking-also MASALAH.
Where go our spirit of MALAYSIAN like what our forefathers have?
A simple thing which we call wisdom .A wisdom in ensuring all of us tolerating all Malaysian races in leaving harmony yet maintaining each identity. Any plus and minus may have to be treated maturely.
Your plus may defintely be my minus.Same to the opposite.
As Malaysian chinese, I treat in positive manner for the forum.People in the forum represents Malaysian. They are talking some issues which I treat as sensitive but mature to be disccus and no instigation to all races.
They are finding ways and means to look for improvement.
It is unfair if we term it sensitive without-even go and listen what they will say.
it is like a deate, before we start, we give a full stop to one party wihtout any chance claiming they are instigating racial issues.
How many of us in my category ? How many of us in the other category ?
Wihtout knowing this figure,it is only GOD know : the conclusion we pre-term is correct or not.
Let’s take OLYMPICS Beijing as our dream in achieving not international harmony for all ,at least goal in achieving harmonous sociaty for Malaysian all races.
Love you all Malaysian !
Bravo Tun…
We love You…
Assalammualaikum Tun ,isteri serta salam muhibah pd semua warga chedet fan.Benar,kita sebagai warganegara Malaysia apapun bangsa harus menghormati antara satu sama lain.Tetapi apa yang berlaku sekarang sikap setengah mereka yang mudah berburuk sangka.Kadang2 niat kita utk menjelas sesuatu perkara itu,tetapi di salah ertikan.Itu yang menjadi masala pada setengah2 pembaca blog ini yang tidak benar2 memahami apa yang cuba dihuraikan,sebaliknya mereka terus membuat tuduhan atau sengaja buat tak faham.Itu yang susahnya.Dari apa yang telah Tun catatkan disini hanya ingin menerangkan keadaan yang sebenarnya buat kita semua rakyat Malaysia yang mungkin segelintir daripada kita semua tidak tahu sejarah negara ini secara amnya.Inilah sikap manusia yang bila di beritahu dikatakan cuba memnambah tokok tetapi bila tidak diterangkan dikatakan tidak diberitahu hal sebenarnya.Sentiasa ada dolak dan daliknya untuk mencari kesilapan orang lain.Cubalah kita renung dan fikir sebentar sebelum bercakap,lihat diri sendiri adakah kita manusia yang sentiasa jujur/terlalu sempurna?Apakah yang kita telah lakukan selama ini terutama pada negara?.Kadang2 kita bercakap mengikut nafsu ketika marah atau memang sikap busuk hati itu telah tertanam dalam jiwa.Jangan cepat buat tindakkan,kalau masih sangsi atau kita sendiri belum pasti dapat melakukan jika berada di tempat insan seperti Tun.Mangkin diterangkan mangkin jahil /sukar menerimanya .Kerana kecetekkan ilmu pada diri sendiri.Sebagai rakyat semua inginkan negara yang stabil,aman,maju lagi harmoni.Tanpa ada rasa dendam atau buruk sangka diantara satu sama lain ,tak kira dari bangsa apapun tak kira cina ,india,melayu dan sebagainya.Keharmonian ini akan tercapai bila semua bangsa bersatupadu.Mengapa kita nak balas membalas antara satu sama lain?Takut hilang ciri2 agama ,budaya,kepercayaan atau terikut2 pada yang kita sendiri tak tahu.Adakah kita selama ini benar2 menjaga agama,budaya dan kepercayaan bangsa kita?Setengahnya dilihat tak mengamalkan atau mempratiskannya.Itu yang kononnya kita cuba pertahankan.Cuba difikirkan semula,jika tanpa persetujuan antara mereka yang dahulu persetujukan tak mungkin kita berada di bumi Malaysia.Kerana tentu saja ada peperangan/peristiwa yang berdarah akan berlaku.Seperti mana yang kita tahu ,beberapa buah negara yang sentiasa dilanda pertumpahan darah.Adakah itu yang anda mahu ini berlaku diMALAYSIA?.Fikirlah sendiri,sedangkan nenek moyang kita yang kebanyakkan tidak berpelajaran tetapi demi keamanan berada dinegara ini mereka boleh mematuh undang2 dan perlembagaan negara.Bagi mereka yang kebanyakkan merantau dari jauh seperti china,india,indonesia dan byk lagi,tinggal disana bagi mereka belum tentu dapat apa yang mereka perolehi di MALAYSIA.Paling penting keturunan mereka(generasi sekarang) hidup aman ,berpelajaran arau seperti yang kita kecapi sekarang.Oleh itu berfikir sebelum kita buat sesuatu seperti yang berlaku sekarang.Ini sikit sebanyak yang dapat dicatatkan .
TUNGGU APA LAGI, TUBUH PARTI BARU KITA TAKLUK MALAYSIA DARI DEPA!!!
Esok ada calon BEBAS kot diPRK PPauh, biaq dua2 ekoq tu bungkuih.
Aslmualaikum.
Dearie Ayahanda Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad,
Last nite, i watched tv series Numb3r on AXN and one of the dialog was “Don’t talk about religion if you don’t want to have a fight”. From what i understand, somebody will not simply brave to talk on religion if they dunt hv any ‘intention’ behind and unless they searching for chaos!
Rite now, im so afraid and confuse cz not understand why, what and how about “Pakatan Rakyat menubuhkan kerajaan selepas 16 September”.Hopefully, Tun could share knowledge on this issue.
Im not comfortable with nowaday issues in our beloved country Malaysia. How and what we could do dear Tun? For instance, i tried to share about the jambatan bengkok during the mesyuarat agong cawangan, but the replied i received, its too late cz its about contract which i clearly not understand.but there is one issue which i guess the Johorian would like to raise to Pak Lah the status of the WPI. tanah utk projek tuh sekaki dijual kpd kerajaan rm6, but when sold to the developer so much higher, i cant remember the value, about rm60 or rm6000.
Besides, i tried to spread about your blog to other people which dunt know about this blog yet, example to makcik and pakcik kat kampung2 cz diorang rindu nak bace2 tulisan2 Tun dan kate2 Tun. tp ade gak yg mcm tak percaye Tun ade blog, sbb bagi diorang internet tak blh percaye,hehe…ntah2 org lain tulis. The purpose bukan ape, saje berkongsi bahan bacaan yg blh membuka minda. Bukan org lain pon, our great PM. Bagi kami, waktu Tun masih ade ni la…Pelik, knp our current PM xnk bertanye pendapat Tun?anggap jekla Tun mcm bapa and die anak.biasala bapa, kite pandai camne pon, die tetap nak tegur sbb sayang. Knp kat Singapore they still value Lee Kuan Yew.
BTW, “kalo kite tak blh tegur org tuh atau die tak terima nasihat, kite doakan utk die”. So apelagi, marilah beramai2 berdoa utk pemimpin kite mendapat hidayah, petunjuk dan kebijaksanaan ke jln benar dan bantu rakyatnya dgn kadar segera.
Hope we all pray to Allah or everybody own god to have guidance what we shall do and nuthing bad will happen to our country.Ameen~!
Semoga, Ayahanda Tun dikurniakan kesihatan tubuh badan dan akal yg sesihatnya, panjang umur, sentiasa berada di jln benar dan dilindungi Allah dari org2 yg berniat jahat dan zalim.Ameen!
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Since they know a little bit more about law than the rest of us does not make them wiser than the rest… Sometime they look stupid for doing things that is not good for this multiracial country. And they continue to look studpid for trying to push forward their stupid ideas.
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Salam Tun,
You got this spot on.
On
“6. Some countries may be more open than others and still remain stable. Almost all these countries are single ethnic developed countries with the majority of the people atheistic. Still you don’t call a black man a nigger but it is okay to call him an SOB (Son of a B***h).”
The blacks or the afro-american can call each other “nigger” but it is a taboo for other ethnic origin to use the word against the blacks.
Yeah… the Bar Council is assuming that since they are the “learnt’ ones, they can discuss this openly with out a care to its sensitivity.
And the sad part is what is the government doing about this. So far, very quiet.
Salam AYAHANDA RAKYAT,
Izinkan,
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ASSALAMUALAIKUM WARAHMATULLAH HI TAALA WABAROKATUH
Yang di hormati Ayahanda Tun dan onda Siti Hasmah
Alhamdullillah,akhir nya Ayahanda Tun bersuara juga dekat pariah pariah di Bar Council tu. Biar depa tahu bukan depa saja yang boleh hentam orang tapi orang lain pun boleh hentam depa dan dengan lebih kuat lagi.
Anakanda percaya sewaktu mereka bermesyuarat,tentu keadaan dalam bilik mesyuarat tu gelap dan agak mendung sikit sebab kebanyakkan ahli2 nya tu jenis kulit TINTED sikit.pasai tu hati depa pun kelam.
Last time when i used to drink liquor,i will go to the BAR.After taking a few pegs of Tequila Mariachi,i will fell a bit NUMB to my lips and hands and started talking uncontrollably as if i know everything.That was 30 years ago.After 3 years i quit drinking liquor.
Now the BAR COUNCIL .Also have the name BAR to the council.
I PRESUME THEY (THE TINTED ONES) DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL IN THAT BAR AND THAT IS WHY INSTEAD OF BECOMING NUMB THEY BECOME “DUMB,DUMBER,DUMBEST”.AND THIS ALSO GOES TO THE ,MUSLIM LAWYERS WHO WERE IN NAME ONLY.
Semoga Ayahanda dan Bonda selalu berada di dalam limpahan rahmat ALLAH SWT sentiasa.
Alif Lam Mim
WASSALAM
Dear Tun
One thing I must say, you maybe wrong but you are always clear. I read and read, your blog, and the people who respond to yours, and also others; I hear the word sensitivities strewn everywhere, yet there is no mention of what sensitivities are being discussed. Since you are in a better and more enlightened position, can you, for the benefit of the large majority who are equally confused, set out what the Bar council wanted to discuss that will create sensitivities? I am confused. Maybe it can be an educational blog for all of us to hear from a senior world statesman. You will of course, be rational and set out the parameters for us all. Then the whole lot of us can understand. Please do not forget the silent majority is 26 million and increasing by the day.
Many Thanks and Long Life
Dear Solcroft, whether you like it or not the majority of this country is Malay. And almost all Malays are Muslims. Naturally the Malays & Muslims sensitivities will take precedance over others’ sensitivities. Nobody is saying that you can’t inquire or examine its nature, just do not make it in an open forum (with lots of publicity).
I am a Malay Muslim. I believe Islam is beautiful but some Muslims gave Islam a bad name, therefore I will not be overly sensitive when some people say bad things about Muslims behaviours. I also welcome inquiry by my non-Muslim friends. To me that is an opportunity for me to explain about Islam to the best of my ability. BUT I am a minority in this thinking.
I’m sorry you have to live with Malay-Muslim sensitivities 24/7. I guess that’s the irony of democracy – it protects the majority.
Dear Tun,
You’re definitely right…
-Jinggo Rock-
Tun,
Bilamana kita memperkatakan kebebsan bersuara. Saya rasa tiada guna kebebasan itu jika akhirnya meruntuhkan negara. Kaum dengan kaum mempunyai pandangan sinis.
Retak menantii belah, api dicurah minyak,
Duri mencucuk daging… airmata mengalir tiada berguna selepas segalanya hancur.
Mengapa kita mengikut negara orangyang kononnya bebas seperti Amerika tetapi pada masa yang sama mengganggu gugat yang lain.
Apaguna kita bahagia tetapi diatas penderitaan orang lain.
Bar Council bermain api … peguam melayu menyepi diri .. Parti melayu sunyi sepi …
Salam Tun,
Emville:
bukan tak ada melayu/islam dalam majlis peguam. saya pun peguam juga. malangnya peguam melayu/islam (1) tak bersatu (2) tak peduli (3) terlebih-lebih liberal dari bukan melayu
Sebagai contoh, dalam pemilihan BAR election yang lepas, terdapat lebih kurang 25 calon (kalau tak silap)bertanding , dan calon islam ada 13 orang (pun kalau tak silap). Sudahnya boleh di bilang berapa kerat orang islam yang jadi office bearer walhal JUMLAH CALON YANG PERLU DIPILIH HANYA 12 ORANG SAHAJA.
Satu lagi, jangan ingat dalam SPR aje ada pengundi hantu, dalam BAR pun ada juga. Ingat-ingat lah balik kecoh isu ballot tak tally tahun lepas? Sampai sekarang tiada apa-apa penjelasan- senyap macam tu saja. Makes me wonder if something is not right somewhere?
Itulah senarionya!
Wallahua’lam
**Buleh Belake!**
Assalamualaikum Tun..
saya sokong pendapat Tun…semenjak pak lah memerintah ada saja yang xkena…demonstrasi sini demonstrasi sana…bagi saya memang forum tu x diperlukan..Bar council xde hak untk mengadakan forum utk membincangkan ttg islam sdgkn kita orang islam x pernah pun nak mempertikaikan agama yang laen…memang bila kaum laen membangkitkan isu perkauman,ble kita org melayu bantah dieorang akn ckp kita x open-minded,misi malaysia 4 malaysian n wawasan2020 xdpt dicapailah n etc..kaum laen ptt sedar dieorang hanya menumpang di tanah orang melayu..klu x suke dengan malaysia yang sedia ada,bolehlah BERAMBUS cari negara yang lebih baik dari malaysia…
memang betul BAR COUNCIL da besar kepala…
HIdup Tun, saya suka bce blog Tun…make me wiser..
Terima kasih Tun semoga panjang umur insyaallah
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Saya 100% setuju dengan penjelasan Tun. Dalam kejadian lepas jelas menunjukan perkara sensitif tidak boleh dibincangkan secara terbuka. Dengan kehadiran 1000 orang sudah hampir tidak terkawal. Bagaimana kiranya angka itu menjadi 10,000 atau 100,000? Saya pasti sejarah hitam 13 Mei 1969 akan berulang. Kalau dahulu(1969) penduduk Malaysia cuma kurang 20juta, sekarang bagaimana? Janganlah mencuba sesuatu yang kita tahu akibatnya. Ini bukan soal mencuba masakan, tetapi sesuatu yang akan merosakan negara yang akan di warisi oleh anak cucu kita. Apakah kita mahu melihat anak cucu kita(semua kaum) sentiasa bergaduh dengan rakan-rakan mereka? Atau kita ingin melihat suasana yang harmoni yang telah kita nikmati selama ini. Kepada Bar Council please think wisely.
Dear Tun,
I can sense anger in your posting. Remember your health and please keep yourself healthy.
Most of ‘insensitivy provokation act’ is merely a result of insensitive though of our present government. Certain thing being escalated too far and offended other races. Example is the recent UiTM issues.
Opening UiTM to other races with quota capped at 10% should be an easy approval. It would benefit our social harmony, and the loss of 10% spots can be subsitute by higher achievement of the other 90%. Plus, we could always open more UiTM if we have more qualified bumis with lack of opportunities.
Our government representative however provoke Malays include the highly intellectual malay student there to raise their protest.
I have a lot of non-malay friends and from time to time I do share their hardship of highly limited opportunity in Malaysia. I do understand their frustration. Some request perhaps is too big and too sensitive to be entertained, nevertheless, we have to drive our public to a better harmony and tolerances.
Quota system usually lead to misuse. Support can come in different form as well. I heard Chinese and Indian provide loan/scholarship for their financially challenged student with good performance and UMNO could do the same. We could even have central to fund partially the program and the rest of it need to come out from our Malay society pocket. We accumulated 60% of population with plenty of high status malay. We have Zakat system in place.
What I am saying is we have to be more sensitive to other ethnic as well. We need to elevate ourselves from ‘spoon fed’ and ‘lazy’ perception. We need to challenge ourselves and government to support us is the right way. Malay previllage need not be ignored but relook upon to be less offensive to other ethnic and more constructive to our society as a whole.
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Dear Tun,
Wonderful piece of writing!
I strongly believe we are not ready for the kind of democracy as in the developed countries. For us, the developing countries, guided democracy would be the best; moreso in a plural society like Malaysia. However the catch here is, the Government of the day must have capable leaders especially the PM,to be able to make that kind of direction – which is obviously lacking to say the least. So Bar Council amongst others, is pretending to lead the way by having such forum. The unruly crowd that disrupted the forum made matters worse and ugly words uttered!! Sensitivities ignored will lead to chaos in the country.
Tun you were(still is)able to guide us well and the country prospered during the last 22 years. Now I am not sure.The country is listless; the leadership is at its worse… need I say more?
Tun, continue your writing so that we know the truth of the going ons in the country together with your thinking/guidance. God bless you!!
Salam Tun & Bloggers,
In my opinion, the Malaysian Bar Council is actually a proxy for DAP as they behave more like a political party than to serve the interest of the people with regards to the âRule of Lawâ They do not care about other races sensitivities.
As the present weak PM has become a lame duck, this is the time for them to take the opportunity. They have become even more daring to challenge everything they opposed just to achieve their political agenda.
Peace and stability for the country is not important to them. They have gone astray. The people in the bar council should be changed for the good of the country.
Yg. DiKasihi Tun,
Memang wajar mertabat Tun sebagai seorang Negarawan. Diberi segala apa senjata pun akan digunakan untuk kebaikan buat Tun. Percakapan dan kelakuan memperlihatkan hati budi serta akhlak tinggi Tun.
Malangnya semacam Tun ini berada digulungan minoriti didunia dan mungkin seorang sahaja yang masih hidup di Malaysia. Yang pandai menilaikannya pun digolongan minoriti juga kalau tidak taklah kita berada didalam keadaan membuang yang baik tetapi mengambil yang buruk sekarang ini. Baru diberi pisau potong sayur saja pun dah dibuatnya senjata untuk membunuh. Dek sebab tak kenal permata manikam pula hendak dibunuhnya.
Pemimpin pemimpin yang mengapi apikan semangat perkauman adalah juga yang pertama akan lari apabila rusuhan kaum meletup. Tak habis habislah Rakyat kena tipu dan mati katak kelak. Bosan Tun.
Pergolakan didalam perhimpunan PAS nampak sikit menarik. Sekurang kurangnya ada kesedaran bangsa dan ugama. Cuma saya tak faham kenapa masih bergelumang dengan PKR dan DAP? Saya tak akan mengundi mereka selagi ini berlaku. Biar rosakan saja undi itu.
A’kum Tun & pembaca2 blog Chedet,
Bukan semua yang diamalkan di barat boleh diciplak dan dipakai di negara asia terutama yang berbilang kaum dan agama seperti malaysia. Ketika barat berbangga dengan kebebasan bersuara, kita di Malaysia tidak boleh sewenang2 mengeluarkan kata2 yang boleh menggugat kaum2 lain. Malaysia bukan sahaja tanah tumpah bangsa Melayu, Cina dan India, malah dari kadazan, iban, portugis dll. Hanya di Malaysia kita boleh dapati siaran TV didalam bahasa mandarin & tamil. Malah terdapat sekolah2 bantuan kerajaan yang bahasa pengantar nya mandarin dan tamil. Kerana ini sudah wujud sejak merdeka, kebanyakkan kita tidak melihat sebagai kelebihan kepada Malaysia. Pergilah mana2 negara yang ada toleransi terhadap budaya kaum lain seperti malaysia.
Ingatlah pepatah sebelum kita membuka mulut, “we are nice to people as we expect the same in return”. Kita hidup bermasyarakat dan jiran2 kita terdiri dari pelbagai kaum. Jangan disebabkan ingin sensasi, masyrakat berbilang kaum tidak dapat hidup dalam keselesaan.
Regards,
http://www.my-security-at-home.com
akum tun n semua..
berkenaan kuota pelajar bukan melayu dalam uitm tu sengaja di bangkitkan oleh PKR demi untuk meraih undi kaum bukan melayu di pmatang pauh. jika org melayu melatah n bengang pada mb selangor. PKR akan kata org melayu bersifat perkauman yg kuat n tidak berlaku adil pada mereka yg bukan melayu. bla bla bla… last2 pengundi bukan melayu tidak akan undi BN di pematang pauh… jadilah si ANWAR tu ketua pembangkang di parlimen dan mungkin PM pulak kelak… jadi di nasihatkan agar media jgn sibuk2 n heboh2 hal kuota uitm ni. kementerian dalam negeri pun patut keluar arahan agar keadaan tdk kecoh, jgn bagi student uitm tu buat demonstrasi. paling2 tidak pun sampai lepas election p.pauh… pastu hampa nak ganyang pun lantak lah… kekadang jadi mahasiswa pun kena cerdik n guna akal yg panjang. jgn cepat emosi… TERMASUK VICE CANSELOR UITM.
dear tun, i pray for your health as we still need your watchful eyes; i pray people will take your comment objectively and see things clearly as rain coz it’s just that – objective and crystl clear; for all of us who call themselves malaysian and love happiness and tolerance.
kind rgds
Salam Tun,
Read Solcroft 5.42pm. Solcroft seem like an enquiring person, sounds like a she. If she really wanted to know more about their nature, read their Book and discuss with their Ulama. She would probably get a better understanding then having a public discourse based on sound-bites and ambiguous prespectives.
And talking about civilised discourse, the terms used like “flaw in YOUR logic”, “NOT ALLOWED to SO MUCH as to enquire” and “BARBARIC” shows some emotions have been stirred and fingers are pointed even by a simple open blog like this. So you are a good example why an open forum that pretends that sensitivities don’t exist just won’t work to solve problems. Create problems-maybe, Solve, I doubt it.
Regards.
Salam Tun,
I salute u Tun. Thank you for explaining the true spirit of Malaysian.
You explained it precisely, every word of it.
Tun, Lee Chong Wei sedang beraksi melawan korea dan sedang mendahului 14-10.
Marilah kita sama-sama mendoakan kemenangan buatnya.
Salam Tun,
Hope you are in good health and thank you for your write up.
I agree that the Bar Council should proceed with discussing interest that affect the nation. The topic most pressing and affects every single Malaysian is: –
“How to Reduce Legal Fees and Avoid Lawyers from taking Advantage of their Clients”.
Another topic worth considering is: –
“Why is Ambiga Silent On Justice Chin and Where Is Zaid?”
Regards and Take Care.
Salam Tun,
Thanks Tun for spending your time makes us more mature!!
We all loves you!!!
17. But ours is not. Ours is multi-ethnic country where assimilation has not taken place. After hundreds of years you insist on still being what you are. Still for 50 years we managed to remain stable without the kind of conditions imposed by developed countries on new citizens.
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They refuse to become true Malaysians and yet they want themselves to be treated equaly. FYI, only true Malaysians who speak good Bahasa Kebangsaan, go to Sekolah Kebangsaan, not ashame to wear Baju Kebangsaan, respect the Constitution and have the love for the country to name but a few things true Malaysians should do, should understand what RACIAL HARMONY is all about!
You still have a choice. If London is good, immagrate there. Isn’t this is fair enough!
Dear Tun and fellow Malaysian,
After evaluating everything thatâs happening now and for the last few months in Malaysia, as I said in my previous comment in your post on Demokrasi, freedom of speech in the first place shouldnât have been allowed.
I think everyone knew how big the mediaâs role is in influencing peopleâs thinking. And if the media wrote something good or bad about certain parties, most people just blindly trust whatever they read. But not everybodyâ¦
See, now we donât only have the media to direct the way we think, but we also have these new blooming, sharp-tongued BLOGGERS. As much as I want to think that these people are providing the true, uncensored information about current issues, I also could not help realizing that they in one way or another provoke the racial sentiments in our community at large. Donât get me wrong. I have so much respect for you Tun and I understand that chedet.com is one of the channels for you to reach the widely BN-misled Malaysian.
The foundation of the entire problem today is the weak leader of course. The bar council is doing nothing except for taking advantage of the situation. We were not ready, are not ready and will never be ready to discuss sensitive issues out in the open. As a Malaysian, if we really do love and respect our country we shouldâve understood that.
NO to freedom of speech. We are not mature, forgiving, tolerating and considerate enough for that.
Asalamualaikum whbk Tun,
Yeah! This is a great advise. Let Malaysia be a unique country all along. There is no other Malaysia in the universe. Malaya later Malaysia comes from the word “Malay”. The Malay Archievepelago is much bigger and consist of all land situated in South East Asia and this include Thailand and Combodia. The Malay should be proud of themselves to allow their motherland shared with other races and yet still very consern to the sensitivity of others. Please…be fair…what is not yours belong to others.Let us live in harmony…go to hell with the “racist” and please put the down no matter what is the price!! ISA should be all right.
This is an excellent article. Tun, you really wrote this? It is excellent! Now I know why you can become PM of Malaysia for 22 years. Sigh…I wished I’d known you better when you were active PM bringing changes to Malaysia. Then perhaps I can offer assistance…I must admit sadly that I had quite a different and wrong perception of you when you were PM simply because you were not ‘available’ to me as a person, as it is possible in this blog. I did not know you as a person..only what the papers say and what the televisions showed.
Tun M is quoting “SOB (Son of a B***h)”???? coolll!!!!!!hidup tun!!!
thank your very much to TUN….
Hak org melayu x boleh d pertikai kan sama sekali.
org melayu adalah rakyat pribumi yg telah lama bertapak d tanah melayu.Ini d bukti kan oleh sejarah…iaitu dr mulanya kedatangan parameswara. bagaimana pula dengan sebelum kedatangan parameswara ke tanah melayu?
berbeza pula dengan org cina dan india. mereka adalah rakyat bukan bumiputera, dgn erti kata lain. hak mereka bukan d beri keutamaan. tetapi, hak mereka juga x diabaikan. ini dibuktikan dgn adanya parti MCA & MIC. isu Islam x boleh d pandang remeh…. Malaysia adalah negara islam yg rasmi. oleh itu, isu agama islam x boleh d persendakan atau d pandang ringan. jika zaman dahulu. perjuangan manusia adalah perjuangan menyebarkan agama.
Maka berhati-hati ketika berhujah mengenai isu MELAYU dan ISlam.
Berbeza sekali dengan kehidupan org barat. kita x boleh menyamai mereka. perbezaan kaun dan agama d malaysia menjadikan melaysia satu negara yg perlu kepimpinan yg peka dan juga mengikuti kehendak rakyat semasa.
-pena^Kecil-
Salam semua.
Mintak maaf terlupa satu point. Masa Ian Chin mula2 melemparkan tuduhan pengecut dari Bench terhadap Tun, Chairman Bar Council dan Karpal Singh buat laporan Polis terhadap Tun. Lepas Tuan hentam balek Ian Chin Karpal Singh syorkan tindakan diambil keatas Ian Chin, tapi tak dengar apa2 komen dari Bar Council Chairman(woman).
Apa dah jadi keatas Laporan Polis berkenaan. Boleh saman dak tentang buat laporan palsu, biaq depa dok dalam pulak. Sorang tu kena tahanan ISA ada, tapi tak pernah masuk jel, yang sorang lagi tak pernah kena apa2 lagi kot.
Tapi KERAjaan sekarang tak terpakai, pemimpinnya adalah terdiri dari orang2 pekak, tuli,buta dan bisu.
Bila nak melingkup pun tak tau la.
Dear Tun,
As far as I read the news (both the online and offline), the BAR wanted to have open forum on conversion to Islam, there is nothing there to talk about Malay rights.
We the non-Islam, need to know the system, law and issue created by someone converting to Islam, again, we are not saying that conversion to Islam should be blocked, but merely to explain and talk this issue so that no-more-fighting-for-dead body.
I agree if someone wanted to convert to Islam, but the system, procedure is not clear, that cause a lot of problem. Husband converted go to one court, wife another court, children go where…. explain this.
The BAR wanted to talk about this. It must be OPEN so the people will know.
Now, tell me where they touched about right to Malay?
I for the one person will always say, the right for Malay MUST be protected in order to ensure the whole system is stable.
All what is happening is now, the BN, is playing the racist card again to gain control. (same case the UiTM, the MB was proposing only for the betterment of Malays, but all the hell-broke)
If my Malay friend(s) fail to see this, then I am more sorry then their are.
Hati.Malaysia
DATUK AMBIGA PATUT LETAK JAWATAN
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/bar-council-make-your-voice-valuable/
WHO DISCRIMINATES WHO?
http://writtenbyhim.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/racist/
Assalamualaikum Tun Mahathir,
The bar council try to use their power on other matter rather to finish their dam lousy latecase problem.This people will do no good to us.
They abuse power.Sack them,lousy Bar council head and the minister.They are people who will bring more problem than good thing.
Tun you bring us the best way of life dont let them destroy our lovely country.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Dearest Tun,
That was a wonderful piece of writing explaining not only your view but that of millions of Malaysians.
We too agree with the Tun that the issue was arrogance and insensitivity and nothing else.
Take care of your health Tun
Regards
First of all, it is a great honour to receive an email signed by you, although it is only a request for confirmation.
With great sadness I do not know what went wrong in time but I my mother, father and the elderly in my family have wrong perception against you.
Whatever that goes wrong in the country, they said it started with you and by you.
On the other hand they are also fair and just. As whatever development and richness that you have created, they appreciate and praise you for that.
So, sometime they are happy with you but sometime they are angry because of you. It is very confusing actually.
So talking about sensitivity, if I utter a wrong comment, it will result of me being lectured for hours and all my appointments will be cancelled.
I do not where it is coming from, but Malaysians are producing more cholerics now days. We are angry about everything.
If you mentioned “Anwar” somebody will be shouting and very emotional.
It continues with “Najib”, “Pak Lah”, “Mahathir”, “water”, “electricity”, “rice”, “fuel”, etc.
Malaysians are today very irrational.
And in this choleric and irrational climate that Malaysian is living today nothing would be solved and nothing will be achieved except for personal glory.
It is just like playing footbal where every body is playing wrong, if you feel that you can score a goal alone, just do it. At least if you loose 8 to 1, the one goal is scored by you.
The hatred and blaming will not stop until may be 2020, it is a different kind of Malaysia all together. Not like the founding fathers intended.
In this wind of change Malaysians has to change to adapt especially Malays. Whoever adapt the fastest will reap whatever benefits there is. In protecting the interest of races especially Malays, the government must be more creative.
For example, in order to maintain this country to be “Tanah Melayu”, the Malays must force themselves to buy land and not selling them. If most Malays are buying Strata Title Houses, how can we maintain the word “Tanah Melayu”.
Spot on
Malaysia is a salad bowl not a melting pot
Malays can never eat babi or when babi on table, sell liquor or gambling entertainment etc while non malays can never live their lives in office the islamic/malay way or allow abolishment of non malay school
its a fact. The NEP still works. No such thing as freedom to say anything. Certain things should remain to ourselves
Pak Lah GEt Out!
Salam
Tun..bukan main lagi bila dakwaan Hakim Chin tentang Tun..cepatnya suruh ambil tindakan tapi bila Tun bagi tau kes Hakim Chin…senyap jea sampai sekarang…..Majlis Peguam nie semuanya mcm ULAR Tun..lidah bercabang…
Salam sejahtera, dear Tun,
Semalam semasa membaca komen pembaca mengenai artikel Tun yg pertama tentang Bar Council, saya juga perasan ramai yg tidak faham, atau sengaja tidak mahu faham, apa yg Tun tuliskan.
Mereka seperti menutup segala pencaindera mereka daripada cuba memahami keadaan sebenar. Mereka seperti setuju amalan budaya tekanan untuk mendapatkan apa yang dihajati.
Adalah merugikan, Tun, bila budaya mengenakan tekanan ini diamalkan secara leluasa…
Teruskan menulis, Tun. Di bawah pimpinan Tun, rakyat Malaysia telah celik. Tetapi sekarang mereka keliru. Semoga kebijaksanaan Tun menangani perkara berbangkit dapat menyatukan semula kami..
Dear Tun,
I am chinese and my parents come from China. I love malaysia and this is my home nowhere else. Respecting from all races is our responsibility and to sacrifice is such a small price to pay. Look at southern Thailand and certain parts of indonesia and the problems they face. We must not take the peace for granted but to value, treasure and cherish it. We do not want to lose the good work Tun had worked so hard for. Thank you Tun and really appreciate your wisdom. Thanks again
Tun yang di hormati,
Bar Council mungkin banyak isu yang hendak di bincangkan. Isu-isu ini mungkin terlalu ‘penting’ bagi mereka sehingga sanggup mengadakan forum ini juga walaupun ada bangkangan dan desakan dari umum agar tidak membuatnya pada masa ini.
Mungkin Bar Council ada membuat penerangan, tapi rasanya sebahagian besar rakyat rasa nya tidak dimaklumkan atau tidak mengetahui tentang kepentingan perkara ini.
Terima kasih
YAB Tun,
Thank you once again for writing and sharing your thought and experience. It is indeed an eye opener especially for those people who think they knows a lot, cleverer than most people, who could solve all the problems in the world and claiming to be the champion of the people.
I would like to share my experience during my tour of duty in one of our neighbouring countries. I was stationed in an area known as ‘conflict affected area (CAA)’, where the so called son-of- the land people has been fighting for their right to self govern for more than 4 decades.
I couldn’t believe how bad the situation was until I saw it with my own eyes. Most of these people are Muslims! They have no proper basic amenities. Their houses are made of bamboo with atap, no proper toilets, drinking water and no proper road. Health is expensive. There is no such thing as public hospital. One has to pay to see a doctor just to get his prescription before buying the medicine at the pharmacy. If one has no money, one is deprived of medical treatment.
The masses there dream about peace, but they have been dreaming for a long long time and it seems that peace is such a long time coming. That part of the country is very fertile with lots of business opportunities. Alas, no investors are willing to spend their money there. The reason? Conflict area and no political stability. How blessed and lucky I am to be born and raised in a country called Malaysia!
Here we are, for the past 50 years, have been enjoying peace. For God’s sake and for the sake of our future generations please do not sacrifice peace just to satisfy your personal agenda.
Remember the motto ‘Unity Is Strength’? Malaysia used to be a Role Model as an Islamic and a developing country and an envy to lots of other developing countries. I am not too sure if that is still true now. Once we are divided, we will be weak.
To all Malaysian, think soberly wih your head and not your heart. Pelase do not destroy the peace foundation that has been laid down by our forefathers just to satisfy certain minority group at the expense of the majority who loves peace.
Good write-up Tun,
As far as I’m concerned the bar council seems to be did it on purpose although they know the issues is too sensitive to discuss openly. That why they arrogantly refused to cancel the forum at first place although thousands of peoples condemns them directly including the Ministers.
I do not think Queen Elizabeth would have been very accommodating of Saudi sensitivities, if she is expected to cover herself up in accordance to Saudi customs every day and not only when visiting Saudi Arabia.
Therein lies the problem and the flaw in your logic, TDM. In this case Queen Elizabeth is not only expected to subject to Saudi sensitivities day in, day out, 24/7, but she is not allowed to so much as even inquire about and examine their nature. Muslim sensitivities encompass almost every aspect of life, and the citizens of a multiracial country is expected to be subjected to these sensitivities without dissent. Whether deliberately or otherwise, to paint a legal and civilized discourse as insensitive provoking and to threaten to retaliate with violence, is nothing short of barbaric.
Dear Tun,
U always the best. Excellent writing indeed.
Luv u always
Banyak perkara yang sebelum ini rakyat tidak mengetahuinya…..ARB Dagang
Tun,
Keep on writing on any issues that will enlighten us as a younger generation. We don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand how weak today’s government is and as a result, the Bar Council is becoming more and more ‘FREE’ to talk about a lot of sensitive issues in our beloved country. I’m not Malays but I have always have a good friendship with them.
I was just wondering if they (Bar Council) will soon talk about our privilege as Sarawakian. I strongly agree if those involved in the ‘OPEN DOOR’ forum (of BAR COUNCIL) on the sensitive issues be put under ISA. Are they not appreciative enough to live in our beloved country that used to be so CALM and PEACEFUL?
Ask them to name any multi-racial country like MALAYSIA.
Otherwise, BUGGER OFF from the country…maybe there’s a greener pasture somewhere for them..
Assalamualaikum, Tun.
Point 13 is spot on. Right of free speech and freedom of expression cannot outweigh the right to security and peace. If the former right is respected at the expense of the latter, then it is a contradiction in principle of democracy, and will lead to a lot of problems not intended in s civil society.
I am worried with the the rise of the Bar Council, that considers itself to be more powerful than the 3 branches (executive, judiciary, and legislative). It is ridiculous that the elected reps from BN and PR today are kowtowing to this (forgive my language, Tun) unelected, undemocratic, elitist, arrogant, condescending group. I fear that we heading the way of feudalism, where these neo-aristocrats will undoubtedly make our lives miserable.
Maybe Jesus was right when he spoke of lawyers. (Luke 11:52, “Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.”
This is just brilliant!!!
Tun yg dikasihi,
Amat benar apa yg diperkatakan Tun.
They simply acused the Malay as racist if we start trying to explain to their raised issues. They will become aggresif once we start explaining it and they will used retaliation as the reason for their aggression. it happened because of lack of sensitiveness which are currently being demonstrate perfectly by the bar council..
We defend our right with sensitivity to others but it seems that others are not even care to do the same. the red 13 May experience did teach us a lot. However, it majorly involved between the 2 races only. we will try to avoid this and hopefully this will not be our last choice that we have since we cannot rely on Pak lah and Pak Lah’s appointed leader!!
I am very sad to see how our sleeping leader doing nothing to at least loosen our anxiety….
Resakse
Way to go Tun!
The reason the Bar Council is doing what they are doing these days is because they know they can get-a-way with it. How can they accomplish this? By having a stupid and weak-ass leader like Pak Lah, thats how!
Tak payah layan la Majlis Peguam Malaysia tu Tun. Sekarang ni apa yg mereka fikir betul dan patut dibuat, mereka akan buat. Sebabnya, kerajaan skrg lemah. Tak mampu nak kontrol mereka ini (dan jugak kumpulan2 yg lain). Klu masa Tun memerintah dulu, ada ke yg berani bersuara isu2 sensitif ni? Sebab tu dlm apa2 keadaan pun, kerajaan yg memerintah (terutamanya pemimpin no 1) kena kuat, berani ambil pendirian dan berani membuat keputusan. Dlm keadaan skrg, klu masalah dalaman negara pun tak selesai, macam mana nak memacu negara ke depan? Bagaimana nak makmurkan negara?
Btw, Majlis Peguam Malaysia ni tak ada ke org Melayu dlmnya? Rasanya ramai loyar Melayu di Malaysia ni. Ataupun semua loyar Melayu ni hanya mampu jadi loyar buruk je?
Tun,
that’s how malaysian treat you. everytime you make a statement, malaysian would always twist them to say that you’re the culprit of all this turmoil in malaysia. but believe us Tun, these coward voices, are just a piece of dirt that can be wipe off with tissue. they are so little but somehow they are loud.dont forget Tun, you have the voice of majority of malaysian. we keep our voices down because we know the true power of us.
Perjuangan belum selesai Tun. Hidup Tun!
Assalamualaikum Tun,
You’ve explained it very clearly. If the bar council still doesn’t get it, well to me it means that they have ulterior motives.
Anyway freedom of speech is another western concept that people in the east simply embrace without being critical of it. The problem with freedom of speech is that no boundries or limitations are included in the definition.
Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights defines freedom of speech as “the right to hold opinions without interference. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression” Where’s the limit to this? Under this pretext, you can insult other people religion or race and get away with it. You can even call a black man ‘nigger’ and says its freedom of speech.
The only real ‘freedom of speech’ is the right to speak the truth.
The meaning of the word truth extends from honesty, good faith, and sincerity in general, to agreement with fact or reality in particular.(Webster dictionary)
– Honesty, good faith and sincerity; well nobody can comment on this with regard to the bar council
– Agreement with fact or reality in particular; The fact is malaysia is a multiracial and multireligion country. The fact is with have 2 system of law, the syariah and civil. The reality is if this delicate multiracial and multireligion balance is tempered with, chaos will ensues. This will lead to violence and destruction. It has happened in the past.
To sum up; message to the bar council and their supporters is that not everything from the west is good,including freedom of speech, be analytical, think, do your reading etc etc. On the other hand you’re definitely not speaking for the truth as you failed to fulfill the criterias as discussed above.
Finally Tun you’ve spoke the truth, which the best kind of speech there is.
Abû Hurayrah relates that Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: âWhoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak a good word or remain silent. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his neighbor. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his guest.â [ Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim ]
I think this hadith nicely sums up the how relationships between muslims and muslims and non muslims in Malaysia should be.
Take care, may Allah bless you Tun
Salam Tun,
1. Since we can live with harmony & peace in this country without any tension, why now certain people try to play the sensitive issue.
REMEMBER!!!!! This the is end result as mentioned by Tun..you have a choice ? PEACE or VIOLENCE
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12. The end result must be tension between the races in Malaysia which may lead to violence, continuous violence. Lives may be lost and property destroyed. “”””
Once this thing happen, it is too late to turning back.
Kaf Yaa Ain Sod Qaa Haa
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TUN,
Kenyataan TUN benar dan tepat sekali.
Dalam hidup berbagai kaum, kita harus menjaga perasaan semua kaum yang ada di Malaysia. Dari sini kita dapat mengujudkan perpaduan kaum, yang merupakan jambatan eams dalam membentuk Negara yang aman, makmur, sejahtera dan Maju.
Sudah 50 tahun lebih baru kini kita mendengar semua ini..
Jelasnya adalah Pemimpin-pemimpin negara yang lemah. Menteri tidak dapat menjaga dan melaksanakan tanggung jawab dalam mengelakkan perkara ini berlaku.
Ini jelas kuasa pemimpin sudah berkurang di Parlimen, pembangkang sudah berani mempersoalkannya.
Pemimpin pun harus punya sensivity, rakyat dah bosan dengan pemimpin yang ada, Bila terhantu baru mengelabah….!!! Semua nak di betulkan namum semua serba tak kena.
Sedarlah, antara kepentingan politik dan kepentingan hak orang Melayu.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
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Angkatan Lancang Kuning Nusantara
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TUN,
Kenyataan TUN benar dan tepat sekali.
Dalam hidup berbagai kaum, kita harus menjaga perasaan semua kaum yang ada di Malaysia. Dari sini kita dapat mengujudkan perpaduan kaum, yang merupakan jambatan eams dalam membentuk Negara yang aman, makmur, sejahtera dan Maju.
Sudah 50 tahun lebih baru kini kita mendengar semua ini..
Jelasnya adalah Pemimpin-pemimpin negara yang lemah. Menteri tidak dapat menjaga dan melaksanakan tanggung jawab dalam mengelakkan perkara ini berlaku.
Ini jelas kuasa pemimpin sudah berkurang di Parlimen, pembangkang sudah berani mempersoalkannya.
Pemimpin pun harus punya sensivity, rakyat dah bosan dengan pemimpin yang ada, Bila terhantu baru mengelabah….!!! Semua nak di betulkan namum semua serba tak kena.
Sedarlah, antara kepentingan politik dan kepentingan hak orang Melayu.
http://isteri-mamak-tua.blogspot.com
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Angkatan Lancang Kuning Nusantara
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Salam buat Tun dan seluruh Malaysia,
Majlis peguam jadi lagu ni di sebakkan menteri yang jaga undang undang Zaid brahim ni tak sensitif dengan agama Islam.Dollah ni dia ambil dalam lubuk mana tak tahu,Tiba tiba jadi menteri,pelek we amba.
Tapi ambo rasa Dato zaid ni tak lebeh dari robot saja,apa tuan dia suruh dia buatlah.bow la jadi robot jadi Zaid Ibrahim lagi baik.
Sebenar nya ambo ni dulu sangat kagum dengan Dato Zaid.
Dear Ayahanda Tun
I’m laughing by the time I finished reading the article. You sure have a way of saying things. I do agree with you 100%. But I do hope that we have a way of making these people really understand what is sensitive meant. I don’t think they understand enough that’s why they always want to create havoc in Malaysia. Can we sent these people back from where there really come from?????
Hope God bless you always.
Dear TUN,
SPOT ON !
Everyone please note point #14.
Salam Tun yang sentiasa dihormati
Your writing is as fresh and sharp as ever and how i wish the current PM is a good and clever as you are.
Agree with some of the previous comments, jangan sampai the Malays “bertukar”.
For 50 years we have been very patient with the non Malays. One race infact became the richest race in this country, but they never stop asking for more and more.
For the Malays please wake up.
Allahu akbar
Semoga Tun dan keluarga sentiasa dilindungi dan dirahmati Allah.
It is clearly showing the “inferior feeling” of letting a conference. It was not just a conference.
A good country leader will always “calm and stabilise” a situation in a country.
Whenever a country leader could not calm and stabilise a country, he is not fitting.
Look at Singapore and Indonesia, there is real freedom.
Look at Singapore, the muslim there is free to convert. But how many muslim convert to other faith? It is not easy to convert. It is a process.
By saying it is sensitive, you are showing inferior of letting a meeting to go on.
If you had said, let the conference go on and let’s see what is the outcome.
Before you see the food, you have already stopped the cook from cooking. How are you going to taste the food?
You do not let the cook to cook but stopping the cook to cook, you are showing inferior that the cook will cook better than you cook.
salam,
Item 10, 11 and 12 are the items that failed to be think of by youth nowadays who really a big fan of freedom of speech…
These lawyer might excel in Law papers and books examination… Did they attend the Life Lesson class. It is called history.
-Angry Boon-
Tun,
Very logical analogy! There’s not point having full freedom but the country destroyed in the process.
tun,
you got a typo. “handsomely”
i agree with you. this should be common sense, and not something that needs to be spelt out for us.
can posts like these be published in the papers? i think it will challenge people’s thinking on sensitivity and “what’s good for them might not be good for us”.
Assalamualaikum Tun & seluruh surfer chedet.com yang beragama islam,
saya setuju 101% tulisan tun, mereka ni tak faham2 lah. Perkara ini terjadi disebabkan:-
1). Pemimpin sekarang tidak tahu mencari apa puncanya. MPN adalah badan pengembang.
2). Bangsa melayu sepatutnya sudah ubah perangai dan sikap:-
– pemalas
– suka berangan2
– semua mahu senang
– alibaba
– minahbabu
3). Bangsa india dan china tidak sedar diri. Mereka tahu mereka bukan bumiputera negeri ini. Bangsa cina adalah pelarian boat dimana pada masa itu mereka terpaksa lari kerana ketakutan, lapar, mengganggur, ekonomi merosot dll. Dengan berbekalkan cuma sehelai sekain dan seluar mereka lari ke tanah melayu tanpa wang. India juga sama cuma mereka dibawa kemari oleh penjajah. Kedua-dua bangsa ini miskin asalnya dan bukan islam. Tetapi walaupun begitu, Dato, nene dan generasi bapa kita menerima mereka dengan hati terbuka dan kasihan serta simpati.
4). Dengan kemahiran yang ada mereka mencari pekerjaan dan perniagaan. Yang pandai cucuk tanam mereka berniaga sayur2an. Yang mahir berniaga pula selepas itu, mereka berniaga dan mendapat untong yang besar kerana melayu malas, tidur dan sempit akal.
5). apabila bangsa I&C (india and cina) ini telah diterima, mereka ini menuntut hak mereka pula. dimana tuntutan2 mereka adalah melebihi dan keterlaluan dari kaum pendatang dinegara2 amerika, europe, australia dll.
6). Sekarang mereka telah sedar PM tidur adalah lemah dan kesempatan ini tidak disia2kan. DAri hindraf ke Majlis peguam dan bermacam2 lagi agenda akan datang telah disusun rapi bagi menggempur atas kebodohan bangsa kita. Sekarang siapa yang patut dipersalahkan. Jawabannya tentu si tua banggak yang tidak sedar diri asal keturunan baba melaka. Dia telah kita suruh berhenti dengan terhurmat tetapi bencana yang dimahukannya. Apa c tidur ini tidak mengerti kebinasaan, pembunuhan, keganasan yang akan berlaku apabila sensitiviti kaum diapi2kan. Step down lah bahlul kaitul!!!!
7). Bangsa kita juga terlalu membagi muka kepada si kaling kapal sink (Karpal Sing) loyar buruk DAP ini. Lim giat siang (Lim Kit Siang) telah siang2 hari ambil kesempatan. Malam pula dia makan ba*i.
8). Untok memajukan bangsa kita semula, bangsa kita mesti pandai dalam semua bidang dan tanpa berharap kepada bangsa IC. Marilah kita halau mereka dari negeri ini dan kita hidup hanya sebangsa sahaja. Luncai menyeru kita pulaukan barang2 yang dijual oleh bangsa IC ini. Kerana barang2 mereka adalah haram untok dibeli. Sabda rasulullah s.a.w yang kurang lebih bererti – “orang islam adalah haram membeli barang2 orang kafir selagi ada orang islam yang menjualnya”. Mufti2, ustaz2, guru2 agama sepatutnya menghilight perkara ini kepada umat islam.
9) Melayu takkan hilang di dunia. walaupun melayu mudah lupa kerana inlah dilema melayu. Tetapi kita tetap islam.
Salam buat Tun serta Keluarga,
Saya rasa Majlis Peguam tak salah. Yang bersalah adalah Zahid. Majlis Peguam tak kan berani buat yang bukan2 kalau Zahid tak sokong dan beri lampu hijau.
Sekarang saya rasa Pak Lah pun dah mula menyampah kat Zahid. Menyesal dia ambik Zahid jadi menteri. Hari2 Pak Lah marah Zahid. Zahid pun dah malu nak jumpa dengan Pak Lah. Sebab tu Zahid diam aja sekarang. Sebab takut, entah2 dia dah lari keluar negeri tak?
Hehehe…
Hidup Tun!
Thank you Tun..
Brilliant article.
I’m the member of the Malaysian Bar but I don’t agree with their agenda.
hmm..so..apa jalan yang kita ada untuk memperbaiki keadaan..
kita membincangkan isu..tetapi..apa pilihan jalan penyelesaian..
kenapa kita tak utarakan atau cadangkan sesuatu..
Assalammualaikum
Tun yang dihormati,
Tun akan sentiasa dikenang atas jasa-jasa, pemikiran-pemikiran, keberanian dan semangat Tun.
Saya membesar dengan Tun sebagai Perdana Menteri Malaysia.
Saya hanya ingin Tun tahu bahawa saya berasa sedih, kecewa, takut dan marah dengan keadaan negara sekarang.
Tapi, saya berasa lebih sedih, kecewa, takut dan marah bila memikirkan keadaan negara pada masa akan datang.
I pledge to defend your opinion in this issue, same as my previous post when you bashed the forum organization. Even I am non-Malay but I learnt to respect others privacy and sensitive issues.
Dearest Tun,
Tun said:
â9. The non-Malays in Malaysia have a lot of sensitive issues too. We cannot touch on them. We would be accused of being racist, being insensitive, provocative and offensive.â
I totally agree with Tun. As always, you ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! You are still the best. In addition, Tun is an excellent author.
If we want people to be sensitive to our own feelings, then by right we shall also show some acceptable level of sensitivity towards othersâ feelings. Please WALK THE TALK.
May Allah SWT bless Tun and family.
Salam Tun,
Membaca Blog Tun mengimbau kembali zaman kegemilangan Malaysia sewaktu Tun menjadi PM.
Sedih dengan apa yg kita lalui sekarang.
Terima Kasih Tun.
Assalamualikum Tun sekeluarga.
Saya sependapat Tun tentang isu “Majlis Peguam”
lihatlah kebanyakkan ahli-ahlinya siapa ?
Boring dengan dia orang ini
I like this blog
http://www.miricommunity.net/
This is where those young guys have their feeling and a lot of info for Miri available here. Some time I feel a bit bad about some issue discusse. I sometime get in a heaty argument. But realising these are young people who express their feeling. It good to know how they feel. And I know it where they release their feeling. They could write bad but mean well.
I would say the stage of internet use in sarawak is wery well quite a matured. Like wise once my discussion area is the Sarawak talk, that is already block. I mean people just talking in the net, of course there are also people who purposely instigate people. That we cannot avoid. It better people are well inform than getting rumour.
Keep you writing these young generation need a well informed of the situation. Not that Hu ha Hu politic. I did not hear anything discussed on what to do after the oil price increase. Just alot of involment of Anuar and Atantuya case. If noting done wring why worry..Go ahead with planning and way forward..Let the relevant department (Police and security people)deal with it.
Dear Y.A.Bhg Tun,
Just like the name pf their association itself, The Bar Council. All them presented and attended the forum deserved to be put behind “bars” for being seditious to Islam and Malays.
Y.A.Bhg. Tun,
Thank you again for putting the truth foward so succintly. Some people think they have a manopoly on sensitivity. In this country the Malays despite being the deprived majority are very sensitive about the sensitivities of the other races here. Go into any kampung and invariably if there is sundry shop owned by a chinese family, the Malay comunity there will band over backwards to make the former feel at home. And this happens all the time anywhere and everywhere. Indians too anywhere and the everywhere are given the same courtesy. So there is unity and the country has prospered until lately. Now there seems to exist a conserted effort by some who think that they know best to lord it all over the rest and derai the good will established among the races in this country. The leaders of the bar caouncil should really leave this country and practise elsewhere. We would all be better off without these pretenders.
YABhgg. Tun,
Salam hormat. Saya tidak faham kenapa Majlis Peguam banyak sangat komplen…
I dont understand why they could not appreciate what we have in this country. Are they the unfortunate group in this country. In fact the members of the Malaysian Councils are the fortunate groups. They make a lot of money and they should help unfortunate Malaysians. Behave like the doctors. Malaysians will appreciate you.
Thank U TDM
Teruskan menulis Tun kami menyokong TDM
Perjuangan Mu belum selesai.
Penulisan Mu membuka mata semua.
TQ tun. Harap panjang Umur supaya kami rakyat dapat menumpang teduh
Dear Tun Dr Mahathir,
thanks for willing to stand up for other races.
salam tun,
saya tak dapat nak komen banyak tentang tulisan tun ni. serba cukup, tiada terkurang dan tiada terlebih. very inteligence writing. ayuh rakyat malaysia tak kira bangsa, bacalah tulisan tun ni panduan kita hidup harmoni.
saya tertanya2, bolehkah paklah menulis seperti ini..
Salam Tun,
Hairan juga orang bijak pandai macam BC masih kelabu. Bahasa yang Tun gunakan sangat mudah ( Majlis Peguam) tapi disebabkan keegoan mereka maka pintu hati mereka tertutup dengan sendiri.
Orang orang macam ini di dalam dunia ini jika Tun tulis atau cakap tak ikut kehendak hati mereka maka berkatalah mereka bahawa Tun racist. Dulu masa belajar mereka hanya fikir nak lulus supaya dapat ijazah undang undang sahaja yang lain mereka pekak sikit Tun.
Saya syorkan supaya Tun jangan peduli orang macam ini,dah cukup jelas penjelasan Tun dalam niat sebenar artikel ini. Lagi pun mereka ini liat nak mengkaji niat Tun selama ini.
Yang penting kami faham mesej Tun, kami lebih ramai dari BC ,dan jangan lupa anak buah kita dari UiTM seluruh tanah air bakal meneruskan jati diri anak MELAYU. Bravo UiTM….
salam.
I think kebanyakkan rakyat sekarang sudah tak mahu Malaysia yang aman damai. Saya cabar awak, awak cabar saya, isu sensitif yang boleh pecah belahkan kaum diungkit. Mereka sengaja nak jadi Malaysia kacau bilau. Mereka selalu tengok kat tv tentang peperangan, street demonstrasi kat luar negara so mereka nak tasting tengok what its like kot. Lebih-lebih lagi “Ketua Street Demonstration” mereka yang bercita-cita nak jadi PM.For me I think sesiapa yang vote dia memang suka kekerasan dan anti peace. Pleaseeeee don’t let him be PM.
Stats Attack!!
from http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/bar_council_members.html
Bar Council Members 2008/2009
Malay 9
Non Malay 27
Total 36
No Name Race
1 Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan (President) Non Malay
2 Mr. Ragunath Kesavan (Vice-President) Non Malay
3 Mr. Lim Chee Wee (Secretary) Non Malay
4 Mr. George Varughese (Treasurer) Non Malay
5 Pn. Hendon Mohamed Malay
6 Haji Sulaiman Abdullah Malay
7 Mr. Edmund Bon Non Malay
8 Datuk Muhammad Shafee bin Md Abdullah Malay
9 Datuk Hj. Kuthubul Zaman Bukhari Malay
10 Mr. Roger Tan Non Malay
11 Mr. Yeo Yang Poh Non Malay
12 Ms. Low Beng Choo Non Malay
13 Mr. Cecil Rajendra Non Malay
14 Cik Yasmeen bte. Hj. Muhamad Shariff Malay
15 Mr. Christopher Leong Non Malay
16 Mr. K. Mohan a/l K Kumaran (Johor) Non Malay
17 Mr Hisyam Teh Poh Teik (Johor) Malay
18 Mr. G. Balakrishnan (Kedah/Perlis) Non Malay
19 Mr. R. Kalianan Subramaniam (Kedah/Perlis) Non Malay
20 Datuk Sukri bin Haji Mohamed (Kelantan) Malay
21 Mr. Indran Rajalingam (Kelantan) Non Malay
22 Mr. Ravindra Kumar (Kuala Lumpur) Non Malay
23 Mr. Steven Thiruneelakandan (Kuala Lumpur) Non Malay
24 Mr. Ng Kong Peng (Melaka) Non Malay
25 Mr. R. R. Chelvarajah (Melaka) Non Malay
26 Mr. Paul Krishnaraja Selladurai (Negri Sembilan)Non Malay
27 Mr. Tony Woon Yeow Thong (Negri Sembilan) Non Malay
28 En. Syed Azimal Amir Bin Syed Abu Bakar (Pahang)Malay
29 Dato’ Ramachelvam Manimuthu (Pahang) Non Malay
30 Mr. Murelidaran s/o M Navaratnam (Penang) Non Malay
31 Ms. Lalitha Menon (Penang) Non Malay
32 Mr. Shan Theivanthiran (Perak) Non Malay
33 Ms. Asbir Kaur Sangha (Perak Bar) Non Malay
34 Mr. Rajpal Singh a/l Mukhtiar Singh (Selangor) Non Malay
35 En. Anuwar B Mohd (Terengganu) Malay
36 Mr. Lee Leng Guan (Terengganu) Non Malay
Mana lawyer melayu yang lain? Tidur ka?
assalamualaikum
Tun dan semua pengunjung chedet.com
Tulisan yang penuh kematangan…..
Bar Council sengaja cuba test power aja tu….
tahniah tun
wslm
Halim Mad Lazim
sintok.kdh
Salams Tun.
As usual, another good piece. I like the part where you said..”After hundreds of years you insist on still being what you are.” Now that they know the government under Mr.zzzzzzzzzzzz is weak, they want to be more than what they are… I think even in their countries of their own origin they can’t get that much. Kalau betul betul nak Bangsa Malaysia, then there should only be one type of school. I have read about so many Chinese australians who can’t even speak Chinese but they are ok with it and they don’t insist on having Chinese schools there. There are those in Malaysia who are the ones who are not thankful with what they have.
Thank Tun,
Once our community when having meeting or planning an occasion. We used to know better other races important day. Sunday morning Christian goes to Church. Friday noon Muslim pray, or Hari Gawai, Chinese new year have special place for Malaysisn worker.
It is sad now this sensitivity is lost. I was sad to hear some company did not know this issue any more. Set example a Semananjung company did not know that Gawai is a public holiday. International company worker is not longer recognising Friday noon is an exception off hour for Muslim to pray. School also now did not recognise Friday
noon.
The younger generation is not well aware of Harmony and Unity of people of Malaysia need. All they learn is academic.
I see from your blog you have address a lot of issue that in bullet form are really very good. You know people do not like reading.
Keep on writing issue to make young realise who we are and where we come from.
One thing I like this new administration of Badwi is to keep the internet open. I have no worry about the internet user, but those who is not exposed or new user to this new media is the problem. Most bloggers as I look at are open minded people and they express them self differently, But in this type write-up there is no feeling and word is taken it is. I have 30 years of internet use, but still I can get emotional about it.
Is there anything in the pipe line of Badawi administration to shut up the internet. This will be stupid move. Under stand your server is not local, Nothing they could do.
Malaysia internet use is the cheapest in the world.
Keep on writing.
Tun,
Your sentence “I believe not being able to discuss certain issues is a small price to pay for having stability and peace in this country”is the crux of the issue. In a multi racial nd multi religious country like Malaysia this is a little sacrifice we have to make in order to manintain peace in the country. I remember in a school trip some years back, we sang a song in the train coach about a Sikh boy’s turban. The song was sang over and over again in the night and all of us just had a good laugh at his expense. When we reached our destination, he took the next train home. All of us thought it was just clean fun…not realizing it was sensitive to him. Many of us learnt a lesson in multicultural sensitivity that day many years ago. If we want to talk about rights, I would say all of us have a right to peace and stability, and along the way all of us have to exercise some restraint.
Bar Council is so RUDE
Please mind others feeling
Please be more sensitive
Dont play with fire
U’ll get burn…cekidout
Salams Tun,
Mereka tidak sensitif kerana kerajaan Pak Lah banyak beri muka kepada mereka semua ini. Mereka rasa, merekalah orang penting dalam membentuk Malaysia yang harmoni. Mereka rasa, dengan bersikap tidak sensitif, negara Malaysia akan aman. Mereka sememangnya silap dan sudah melampau. Keangkuhan mereka sudah terbongkar. Rakyat sudah tahu, mereka memang tak boleh pakai. Orang yang melampau seperti mereka ini sewajarnya kita ajar dia dengan cara terlampau juga, baru mereka sedar akan keterlampauan mereka itu.
Tun,
Kengkadang, ‘orang besar-besar’ ni buat begini semata-mata populariti. Bila dah popular, ada peluang masuk politik. Kalau tukang ambik gambar boleh jadi MP. Blogger boleh jadi MP. Takkan orang-orang besar yg banyak bagi ‘pembaharuan’ tak boleh jadi MP.
Tapi masalahnya, mereka tak fikirkan kesan jangka masa panjang. Yg penting popular dan…
Salam Tun,
1. Agreed with you, Tun.
2. Everyone should read this article and think twice & understand the situation right now.
frm
Kaf Yaa Ain Sod Qaa Haa
Assalamualaikum..
Apa yg berlaku baru2 ini,jelas mencabar kesabaran org2 melayu.. terlintas di fikiran sy, knp tiada campur tgn dr pihak istana (DYMM Agung,Sultan2 & Raja)? .. Bukankah isu yg dibangkitkan sejak akhir2 ini cukup sensitif, cukup mendalam?
Ingin sy bertanya :
1.Apakah kuasa institusi beraja dlm menangani hal ini?
2.Apakah ada batasan(limit) utk mereka bersuara/bertindak?
3.Adakah apa yg berlaku ini merupakan langkah awal yg dibuat secara berperingkat oleh pihak2 tertentu utk menafikan hak2 org melayu & ajaran islam itu sendiri?
Maaf jika komen sy ini menyinggung mana2 pihak.
A’kum Tun Dr Mahathir
Komen yang teramat bernas… Sensitiviti kaum kita perlu dijaga
Kepada mu, Tun Dr Mahathir
‘Dulu Kini & Selamanya’ Hiduppppp TUN
Salam.
Pada pendapat saya Majlis peguam sebenarnya mempunyai agenda politik mereka tersendiri apabila menengahkan banyak isu-isu sensetif terutamanya yang melibatkan pelbagai kaum. Ini bukan satu perkara yang menghairankan kerana jika dilihat keahlian majlis peguam sendiri, kebanyakan mereka terdiri daripada penyokong parti-parti pembangkang dan NGO yang bersifat perkauman yang tebal seperti DAP dan Hindraf.
Saya menyokong apa yang Tun katakan bahawa kebebasan bersuara dalam masyarakat majmuk di negara ini perlulah dikawal bagi mengelak berlakunya pertelingkahan kaum yang lebih serius yang boleh memusnahkan negara ini. majlis peguam juga perlu menilai diri mereka sendiri tentang apa sumbangan mereka terhadap pembangunan negara ini. Pada saya tiada apa jasa majlis ini yang boleh dibanggakan selain menimbulkan ketegangan dan menimbulkan isu-isu yang tidak menggambarkan majlis ini sebagai satu agensi yang profesional.
Assallammualaikum Tun,
Beberapa tahun sebelu ini, keadaan umumnya ok. Negara dalam keadaan terkawal. Walaupun ada beberapa suara yang cuba mencetuskan suasana tidak harmony, tetapi majority rakyat memilih untyuk mengekalkan keharmonian demi mencapai kestabilan.
beberapa kumpulan yang begitu aktif sekarang ini sebenarnya sudah banyak kali cuba meluahkan betapa mereka INGIN SANGAT DENGAN KEBEBASAN MUTLAK TANPA HALANGAN. Bagaimanapun keinginan mereka tesekat kerana ujudnya kerajaan yang bertanggungjawab mengawal dan menghadkan kebebasan agar kepentingan semua kaum terjaga, agar perkara yang sensitif tidak dijadikan bahan bualan murahan tanpa memikirkan sensitivity orang lain.
Keadaan kini berubah. Agak malang kerana pemimpin negara memilih untuk “menjadi popular’ di mata sebahagian kecil masyarakat…golongan profesional yang kononnya memperjuangkan kesamarataan dan kebebasan mutlak. Pemimpin yang mementingkan popularity akhirnya menjadi pemimpin yang lemah dan menjadi bahan mainan. Pemimpin ini memilih untuk memenuhi kehendak sebilangan kecil orang dan pada masa yang sama tidak sedar bahawa tindakannya itu sebenarnya merupakan kepada permulaan untuk satu permasalahan yang lebih besar.
Negara berbilang kaum dan agama ini sebenarnya memerlukan pemimpin yang bijak, cerdas, pro-aktif, amanah, disegani dan juga perlu dilihat sebagai pemimpin yang amat berpengaruh dan berkuasa. Jika tidak memiliki ciri-ciri in i, pemimpin kita akan akhirnya membawa kepada permulaan kebinasaan yang amat dasyat dalam konteks perhubungan antara kaum dan agama dinegara ini.
Negara ini kini melihat satu persatu masalah dan ketidakpuasan hati berlaku, kepincangan , tohmahan, fitnah, rasuah, dan yang paling teruk kedudukan kerajaan yang kelihatan seperti tidak stabil akibatn kumpulan pembangkang yang memperjuangkan demokrasi kononya tetapi mahu menumbangkan kerajaan secara tidak demokratik. Agak sukar meramalkan keadaan negara ini pada maasa hadapan jika kedudukan ekonomi sosial dan politik negara amat tidak stabil. yang jelas, akibat dari semuanya ini, pertumbuhan ekonomi amat perlahan dan krisis keyakinan terhadap kerajaan semakin meninggi. Para pelabur juga semakin gusar dan tidak yakin dengan suasana politik dan kestabilan negara ini. Umumnya, semua melihat betapa negara ini sedang bergerak ke arah kemusnahan, malangnya pemimpin kerajaan dan para pemimpin pembangkan “secara bersama” melihat semua ini sebagai sesuatu yang amat positif.
BAR dan lain-lain kumpulan yang suka mengambil kesempatan sewajarnya membersihkan akal dan hati mereka dari berfikiran sebagai perosak keharmonian sosial negara ini. Adalah perlu bagi mereka meletakkan kepentingan negara mwelebihi kepentingan diri dan kelompok mereka. Mengatakan mereka tidak cukup matang dan kurang semangat kenegaraan mungkin agak keterlaluan. Tetapi menilai apa yang sedang berlaku sekarang seolah-olah mereka ini”umpama musuh dalam selimut” dan seperti bertindak merosak dan membinasakan negara kita bagi pihak negara luar.
Harapan kita akan muncul pemimpin yang boleh meletakkan semula negara ini ke landasan yang betul, soalnya siapa dan bila? Anwar pastinya bukan kerana ternyata orang ini lebihm banyak membawa kebinasaan dari membaiki dan membina. Di kalangan pemimpin UMNO sekarang? mungkin 6 atau 8 tahun dari sekarang barulah negara ini akan memiliki pemimpin seperti Tun Mahathir. Insyallah.
Dear Tun,
Assalamualaikum. With this sincere and crystal clear explanation, if these people are still not satisfied then it is obvious that they are bent on hurting and undermining the Malays and Muslims. The non-Malay and some Malay critics purposely choose to critise you despite the fact that you are clear in your previous piece because they hate you. I can’t understand some of these critics because very often their comments sound very personal, like as if you have done something to them personally (Seperti, Tun pernah cucuk mata mereka).
Thank you,
Wassalam.
A’kum YAB Tun Dr Mahathir.
Satu komen & pendapat yang menarik sekali.
Pandangan YAB Tun adalah benar. Sensitiviti kaum kita perlu dijaga.
Semoga Allah SWT memanjangkan usia YAB Tun.
‘TUN DR MAHATHIR’
“DULU, KINI & SELAMANYA” Hidupppppp TUN…….
Salam Tun..
Terima kasih kerana membuka mata ramai rakyat Malaysia…terutamanya pengundi atas pagar…
gitu lah bapak…kalo hanya nak pentingkan diri sendrik aper jer yg org lain buat n kata tak kena jer kat depa…depa nak org hormat depa tapi depa tak hormat diri sendrik jauh sekali nak hormat org lain….bapak takyah susah ati kat org yg nak kata hantu bukan hantu..nak kata org pun bukan org…sbb depa cuma pentingkan perasaan depa…perasaan org lain depa tak pedulik sket pun…boleh blah lah org mcm nih…kalo depa tak nak bertolak ansur dlm segala hal dlm negara nih p lah carik negara sendrik…dlm satu keluarga pun ada mende yg boleh di kongsi satu keluarga n ada yg hanya boleh di beritahu kpd 1/2 org jer..apa lg satu negara tentu mcm2 kerenah n permintaan penduduknyer….yg paling penting jgn jadik orang orangan…kena hina kena maki org benci pun duk senyum riang lagik..ish…mcm seseorang jer lak…dollah lat tu…
go2 bapak go…cheerssssssssssss……
jasa2 bapak hanya Allah saja lah yg dapat membalasnyer…muga Allah sentiasa memberkati merahmati melindungi bapak dr gangguan syitan n org2 yg berniat jahat n dengki khianat pd bapak n kuarga….
” 20. If what we want is to be able to provoke people as a matter of right more than our own well-being and that of fellow citizens then be insensitive and have open debates by selected people whose views are already known, who are insensitive to the sensitivities of others but are very sensitive about their rights to be insensitive, whatever the cost to others and the country.”….
…EXACTLY!!!
Bila peguam Melayu-Islam nak lawan S. Ambiga?
Tunggu apa lagi..
Salam Tun
My salute to you sir,
for all your arguments, they only make your detractors more and more pathetic.
I believe that all Malaysians, including the members and the highest committees of the Malaysian Bar Council are bound to the Law of our country and our Constitution. Just because they didn’t agree with you, Tun, over many subjects, does not mean they could abuse our Law their own way. Please teach them a lesson. Please bring a stop to all these ruckus and take appropriate actions against those insensitive to others.
But who would have the power to enforce these laws? Tun?
Of course it is the present government. My only hope is that they are not afraid to sacrifice their good name (like when they increased oil price) to do something to prevent racial tensions which in the end would not benefit anyone. Not the Malays. Not the Chinese. Not the Indians or the other races in our beloved country.
God save Malaysia.
salam tun,
Saya sokong !
Thank you TUN,
Inilah yang saya tunggu-tunggu,comprehensive, straight to the point. Diharap Majlis Peguam mengambil maklum apa yang telah Tun huraikan di atas, self-explanatory.
Dan jika masih tidak faham, kami dah tak boleh kata apa-apa pun, maafkan kami jika kami “bertukar!!”
Terima kasih TUN MAHATHIR
Salam.
Lagu Warisan banyak memberi peringatan kepada bangsa kita. Hal-hal sebegini, bila bangsa lain cuba untuk menyentuh hal-hal sensitif bangsa Melayu seolah-olah mencabar kita semua.
Apabila hal begini berlaku, perasaan marah dan dendam bukanlah suatu yang patut dipupuk dengan apa yang berlaku. Penyebabnya yang perlu dicari. Kenapa?
Tak sedarkah kita perpecahan bangsa kita sekarang, bak dari segi parti orang Melayu UMNO atau lain-lain inilah yang menyebabkan bangsa kita sekarang dipandang enteng?
Masalah utama adalah dari situ. Apabila perpecahan bangsa Melayu terjadi, bangsa-bangsa lain akan cuba mengambil kesempatan cuba memperlecehkan kita, agama kita. Mereka menjadi kurang sensitif.
Apa yang penting sekarang ialah kita perlu kembali bersatu. Jgn gara-gara pergaduhan kita, maruah kita tergadai, negeri kita jadi milik orang.
Kalau kata kerajaan sekarang lemah, ayo bantulah kita memperkuatkan kerajaan dengan kembali membersihkan parti memerintah atau UMNO yang sudah banyak berjasa pada kita.
Bukan kita buang bila benda dah jadi sakit. Kita cuba rawat kembali.
Tak relevan, tak sokong Pak Lah, itu bukan alasan. Pak Lah bukan UMNO. Kalau Pak Lah rosakkan UMNO, bersatu ktia untuk merawat kembali parti keramat ini, bersatu jernihkan apa yang dah keruh.
Jgn biar negeri kita tergadai akibat perpecahan bangsa kita Melayu sendiri. Sedar tentang apa yg UMNO sudah pertahankan sekian lama, hak istimewa dan sebagainya.
Marah keterlaluan kalau orang cuba pertikai hak bukan jalan yang baik, guna peluang yang sementara ada untuk terus majukan diri ke tahap maksimal buat kemajuan bangsa sejagat.
Pemimpin Pelajar Kelab UMNO.
Dearest Tun,
I don’t blame you for not publishing my comment on your earlier post because it borders on race and religion.
I have to admit that we Malaysians are a sensitive lot and discussions on race and religion should be done behind closed doors. The subject is always discussed, among families and friends. But this is only mere talk but we have come to accept, respect and live with their cultures and beliefs.
Our talk did not lead us to the streets unlike the recent happening. If they want to stop the forum, they don’t need to drag the whole kampung into the picture. They could have just inform the police to do it.
Our PM & DPM always mentioned that street protests is not our culture, but sadly they did not mention this recently. They only mention not to touch on sensitive religious issues.
I wonder if they are taking sides now?
http://wtfmalaysiangovernment.blogspot.com/
Dear Tun,
Yes sensitive issues shouldn’t be discuss in the open. It will triger uneasiness among the races and religions. But some people they just dont care. Simple as that.
pendapat saya, perbincangan sebegini boleh dibuat tapi haruslah tertutup sebagai menghormati sensitivity masayarakat majmuk.
Cuma untuk perbincangan terbuka biarlah yang menjadi panelnya terdiri dari golongan-golongan yang bijak pandai (peguam) dan ahli dalam agama (ulama) bagi mengelakkan kekeliruan dan salah tafsiran. kalau mahu bincang tentang undang-undang civil sekalipun, haruslah diajak sekali ulama menjadi ahli panel untuk mendapat nasihat, pandangan dan penjelasan terperinci dari sudut agama itu sendiri.
ini sekadar pendapat saya sahaja…
syam @ http://aeropama.com
Dear Tun,
Setuju 100% with your writing!Keep writing to let Malaysian awake of current situation in the country
Malaysia Boleh!
Salam Tokdet…
Semuanya terjadi kerana kelemahan dan kelembapan pemimpin2 sekarang ni, dan sampai sekarang mereka masih lagi berdiam diri tak berani dan tak mampu untuk membetulkan kembali dan mengatasi masalah2 ini dengan segera..
Jika tidak dibendung dengan segera tidak mustahil, dan saya berpendapat peristiwa hitam 1969 pasti berulang, hanya menanti masa dan siapa yang berani memulakan dulu sahaja..
Saya pasti kalau tok masih jadi Perdana Menteri, tiada siapa yang berani provoke dan membangkitkan isu-isu yang sensitif yang boleh menggugat keamanan dan kestabilan rakyat berbilang kaum di negara kita ini…
Tapi sayangnya, pemimpin sekarang ni hanya bertuhankan duit dan mabuk kuasa, tak pedulikan masalah yang nampaknya semakin serius ini…
Salam tok..
Dear Tun,
I am agreed with some of the points which you had outlined here.
Since we are living in a multi-racial community, mutual respect between one and other is very important. We are all civilized and been educated from our parents and school, morals stand on one of the important principes of a person’s life.
Without good moral, without respects, without good images…I dont think that particular person/country will be respect by other nations. It will be much more better for us to value a person with moral and well-behaviours rather than value a person whom is clever but worthless.
Hui Ling
I always believe that too much of anything is never good for anybody. However Tun, hope you could guide us the rakyat on how to tackle all the issues that you’ve raised up. This bar council issue for instance, how do we voice up our concerns when all channels to complaints are very restricted. I also do not want to see too many demonstrations for rakyat to voice up their concerns… but so far.. that’s the only way that we can do…
i wonder if we would ever be like our neighboring country where violence on streets is something normal when people are not satisfied… i sincerely wish that that day would not come…
ieja
Salam Tun,
Saya amat-amat bersetuju dengan pandangan yang bernas dan mantap dari Tun. Bar Council telah lupa sejarah. Segala-galanya hendak bersandarkan kepada tafsiran undang-undang mereka tanpa memikirkan kesan pada negara.
Mereka terlalu ego di sebabkan oleh Zaid Ibrahim. Wahai umat Islam…perlu ingat, Zaid Ibrahim inilah yang pernah membawa hudud ke mahkamah supaya tidak di jadikan undang-undang negara.
Sepatutnya sebagai muslim, dia harus mengkaji mana kelemahan dfar tersebut, bukannya terus menentang.
yes,u r right tun..but the govt just keep silence n even allowed such forum to b held until a demonstration was carried out..
unfortunenately, it shows clearly that our present govt hv no sensitivity..what a pity!
Dear Ayahanda Tun,
Whack them all…..
I WILL BE WITH U FOREVER TUN….
ME AND MY FAMILY LOVE U SO MUCH AYAHANDA TUN….. COME BACK AND SAVE MALAYSIA PLEASE…….
Salam,
Thanks Tun. U make it sound very clear for some of them who not understand the situation. May god bless you sir.
Perhaps thing just made to show how fierce some*one* can be or perhaps… just to draw attention, or again perhaps, someone needed to show how powerful he/she can be now.
But, the best way to keep our Malaysia is – to make peace with everyone and maintain the stability, not making any little situation worse than we already seen.
Salam,
Thanks Tun. U make it sound very clear for some of them who not understand the situation. May good bless you sir.
THE MALAYSIAN BAR COUNCIL………
U All dah melampau…
jgn sentuh sensitiviti orang melayu…jgn pertikai apa yang ada dalam perlembagaan
salam Tun…
I’m the 1st…
hehehe
Dear Tun
Another great article from TDM – eat your heart out “Majlis Peguam Malaysia”.
Like old folks say – “Masuk kandang kambing, mengembek – masuk kandang harimau, mengaum” tapi jangan masuk pulak kandang harimau, nanti kena makan.
“Di Mana Bumi DiPijak – Di Situ Langit DiJunjung”
Rgds
Dearest Tun,
You are sooooo right.. spot on.. bulls eye..
May Allah bless you and Tun Siti forever..
askum tun…..
reading u blogs makes me more viser than before….
for all the information…..tq
regret for putting my vote to pr….
saya menyokong anda Tun…
please……
save our Malaysia….