1. I agree entirely with you that building a great nation doesn’t only take brains, but as you said it sure does help.
2. However brains alone without a heart (feelings) can produce a monster.
3. Israel is undoubtedly a great nation, becoming great through the brains and the numerous achievements you have listed. Yes I have used Israeli originated products like Microsoft Windows and Pentium chips (made in Malaysia) by Intel, an American company.
5. I am amazed at the number of Nobel Laureates Israel has produced. I admit we have not produced even one.
6. But when the brain is without a heart it does not care for the misery resulting from the products of the brain.
7. The atom bombs which killed 100,000 men, women, children and babies are the product of Israeli (Jewish) brain. Most of the diabolical weapons now being used to kill millions of people are also the creation of Israelis on Zionist Jews. The depleted uranium and phosphorous shells being used in Gaza are also the product of Israeli brains.
8. The current financial crisis which is destroying the economies of the U.S. Britain and in fact all the countries of the world is due to manipulations of banks, financial institutions and the monetary system by Jewish supporters of Israel.
9. The negation of the freedom of speech when it comes to the alleged killings of Jews in World War II are also inspired by Zionist Jews.
10. But worse of all is the seizure of Palestinian land to create the state of Israel. Not content with the area given to the Jews by the United Nations you have seized more Palestinian land, built settlements on many parts of Palestine, disallowed the use of roads built on Palestinian land to the Palestinians, erected your own check points at the borders of Palestine with Jordan and built your version of the Berlin Wall through Palestinian villages on land that is not part of Israel.
11. Before the creation of Israel, the Jews and Arabs in Palestine lived in peace. Historically Jews had always sought refuge in Muslim countries when the Europeans conducted pogroms against them. This only stopped after the U.S. offered asylum.
12. All the terrorism that we see today, whether state initiated or by irregulars, started after the U.S. backed Israel against Arab attempts to regain their land through conventional wars. Because they were outclassed in terms of weapons by the U.S, / Israel, alliance, then only did the Arabs resort to what is called terrorism. The Israeli response have always been with greater terrorism as is seen in Gaza.
13. I have asked an American what he would do if Texas was given to the Jews to create the state of Israel. He did not answer. But I believe he would fight to get back Texas, employing all the weapons at its disposal.
14. Yet had the United States been willing to create the nation of Israel in the lands under U.S. control or in the U.S. itself, there would be no terrorism in Palestine or in the Middle East. There would be no terrorism in America either because Israel would be wiped out by the U.S. forces. The world would remain peaceful.
15. The brutality committed by your forces in Gaza is out of all proportion to the puny rocket attacks by Hamas. That attack was the result of Israel and the U.S. failing to accept the results of a properly conducted election.
16. Hamas could only establish their Government in Gaza. But you blockaded Gaza, denying them food, medicine, power, fuel etc. If you had not done that I doubt that Hamas would fire rockets at you.
17. Malaysia is well aware that total boycott of Israel is not possible. We are in fact boycotting American products which is an even more impossible task. We would not be able to bring America or Israel down.
18. But what we aim to do is to demonstrate the disgust and the anger that we feel over the inhumanity of the brainy but primitive peoples of Israel and America.
19. You can collect Nobel prizes and other prizes but the world will look down upon you as very primitive people who robbed land through terror against perfidious British and subsequently used your control over the world’s greatest military power to oppress the people whom you had robbed.
20. You have nothing to be proud of, unless of course you take pride in being heartless, in being primitive brutes.
21. The only mitigating factor is the presence among Israelis of a small number who are ashamed of what you have done to the people of Gaza.
Well I have to say I had no idea myself. I appreciate your input. I have read a few other posts on other sites and blogs, but your seems to ring more true than the others I have seen. though I do intend to look around some more. I see you have also had some interesting responses. Do you mind if I pass on the link to this site to some of my friends and colleagues? Is it possible that I could have an rss link? You can contact me on [email protected]. Much appreciated.
assalamualaikum
Saya tak tahu samaada betul atau tidak
Tengok keadaan mcm dah tak sempat nak tunggu orang Islam cipta alat ketenteraan yg canggih.Sekarang ni kene tunggu Imam Mahdi je muncul satukan orang2 Islam, berkat doa nya Amerika akan kalah juga. Mungkin 2012 atau 2019 nanti kita tunggu dan lihat.umur umat Islam sabda Nabi 1500 tahun ditolak 1430 hijrah tinggal 70 tahun lagi.
Janganlah sibuk nak kumpul harta..Dekatkan diri kita pada Allah.
Mungkin peperangan terbesar dunia akan berlaku tak lama lagi..
Semoga Allah menggerakkan hati umat Islam untuk bersatu.Amin
Kita semua cinta dunia dan takut mati,tapi orang yang berani mati saja yang layak untuk hidup.
Salam Tun
nicely said Tun..
Salam Tun
nicely said Tun..
May Allah bless you sir.
Salam to Tun and all,
See, i told you, they take the “God’s promise to return them to Zion” very seriously. But they conveniently forget “the conditions” that they have to fulfill before that can happen.
Please la…
February 20, 2009
Dear Hanan,
Sorry this has taken a while to get to you
OK!!! Lets say, every single Jew men, women,old folks, kids and babies are killed and eliminated from the face of earth. Whats next?????
p.s- think before answering.
to tahir56 I’ve have reponded to you in this thread
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=908&p=15100#p15100
Salam Tun,
entah sape2 la budak(pakcik) hanan tu, buat malu Tun je buat artikel pasal dia. siap dengan sequel lagi. Banyak saya perhatikan dalam statement die underestimate Tun guna cynical joke dan macam2 lagi. Memang die banyak point dan most of them make sense walaupun tak semestinya betul. For god sake your one of the world’s greatest leader and he’s not even in the same league. Kalau ariel firaon ke olmert yang baca dan komen blog tun tu baru la bertemu buku dgn ruas.
Save the best for last.
maaf cara saya.
wassalam.
Salam Tun and all,
For a bit of info on the NEW WORLD ORDER Agenda led by Zionist (which comprised of jews and non-jews)
1. please watch this!! http://www.thearrival.blogspot.com
2. read The International Jew by Henry Ford (Excerpts of the Zionists Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is elaborated in this book) – Tun i’m sure you’ve read these books for I know that you are well-read, if so then this recommendation applies to others.
3. If you can find a review/discussion book on the Talmud, there are some translated into Indonesian Language, most are in Arabic Language.
4. If you can also read up on the Old & New Testament and the Holy Quran, you’ll find in them descriptions of the Jews and their hollier than thou nature, why they are the way they are, and how they’ve incurred Allah SWT wrath on them since the time of prophets Musa and Harun a.s.(don’t much about the time bfore that and the alkitab Zabur).
Then maybe we’ll understand that there is absolutely no point in arguing with Jews or the Masons. They fear no one including Allah ( or Elah or Yahweh in their language.)
The occupation in Palestine happened coz the Rabbis are taking seriously the promised that Allah made to them, i.e to make Jerusalem as their ruling capital of the world (but they always conveniently forget that the promise came with conditions), and that they can only start worshipping Allah when they are all back in Jerusalem (among others).
Wallahualam. Peace be upon all of us.
to ygalg
tahir56:-To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: “You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God
Angsana Rimbun,
you made a statement that sparks curiosity:
“It seems that you are better and well-behaved than our Prophet…..Why dont you use your “kindness (as oppose to terror” and create a new religion….let’s see how many billion people will follow you.”
That statement conveys that religion, Prophet Mohd.’s religion in particular, is started by “kind” people… So, in particular, Prophet Mohd.’s religion has nothing divine by that argument. And it follows that all the jihadist movements in the name of god are made up… So, that means…
Perang Khandak: Angkara Yahudi Bani Quraizah
Oleh: Tuan Guru Hj Nik Abd Aziz Nik Mat
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg07160.html
DI ANTARA perkara utama yang dilaksanakan oleh Nabi s.a.w. selepas berhijrah ke Madinah, ialah mengatasi masalah dengan penduduk berbilang kaum dan agama di Madinah melalui perjanjian Madinah (Shahifah Madinah), khususnya dengan orang-orang Yahudi ahli kitab.
Kandungan perjanjian itu antara lain ialah jaminan dari kerajaan Islam Madinah, menyentuh soal memberikan hak kebebasan semua warga Madinah untuk melakukan kegiatan ekonomi dan sosial, kebebasan mengamalkan ajaran agama dan budaya masing-masing.
Jika sesuatu kaum menghadapi ancaman dari pihak lain, adalah menjadi kewajipan kaum-kaum lain yang sama terikat dengan perjanjian itu untuk membantu. Mereka mempertahankan keselamatan pihak-pihak yang terikat dalam perjanjian itu, sebagai satu tanggungjawab menjaga kesejahteraan dan keamanan.
Selain itu, warga Madinah diikat dengan suatu tanggungjawab dan kewajipan menjaga keamanan negara. Jika Negara Islam Madinah menghadapi ancaman dari mana-mana jua, warga Madinah dari semua etnik sama ada dari keturunan Yahudi atau Arab mempunyai tanggungjawab yang sama untuk mempertahan keselamatan negara.
Semua warga negara Madinah menikmati suasana aman damai dengan perjanjian Madinah yang dipersetujui bersama, sama ada oleh bangsa Arab yang pelbagai keturunan dan juga Yahudi yang pelbagai puak. Berbilang kaum dan pelbagai agama serta anutan tidak menghalang penduduk Madinah mengecapi perdamaian.
Malangnya dalam perang Khandak ini puak Yahudi bani Quraizah telah mencabul perjanjian yang telah dipersetujui bersama itu.
Peristiwa itu bermula apabila seorang tokoh Yahudi bani Nadir bernama Huyayi bin Ahtok telah menemui tokoh Yahudi bani Quraizah bernama Ka’ab bin Asad. Huyai menjalankan kempen awal mempengaruhi Ka’ab supaya yahudi bani Quraizah membatalkan perjanjian dengan Nabi s.a.w..
Huyai bersedia untuk memimpin delegasi memujuk Arab Quraisy Makkah dan juga Arab Ghatfan serta para pembesar di kalangan mereka, untuk mengadakan pakatan memerangi nabi s.a.w.. Huyai telah mengatur pertemuan dengan dua puak Arab itu di suatu tempat bernama Zanab Nuqma.
Kempen yang dijalankan oleh Huyai itu bertujuan supaya ketua Yahudi bani Quraizah, iaitu Ka’ab bin Asad membatalkan perjanjian mereka dengan Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.. Mengikut rancangan Huyai bahawa yahudi bani Quraizah pimpinan Ka’ab bin Asad akan berhimpun di sebelah Uhud.
Sementara Arab Quraisy dan juga Arab bani Ghatfan bergabung dalam satu pasukan, mereka telah memberi pengakuan mengerahkan pasukan perangnya. Mereka hanya akan berhenti apabila sebaik saja menjejakkan kaki di Madinah. Pasukan terbesar ini akan mencabut segala akar umbi kepimpinan Nabi s.a.w. yang telah menubuhkan negara Islam Madinah.
Strategi yang disusun oleh Huyai ketua Yahudi bani Nadir itu menjadikan Madinah terkepung dari semua penjuru. Semuanya untuk meyakinkan Ka’ab bin Asad, bahawa gerakan penentangan terhadap Muhammad s.a.w. dan kaum muslimin Madinah ini, memerlukan kerjasama kukuh dari Yahudi bani Quraizah.
Pada pendapat ketua Yahudi bani Nadir, jika Yahudi bani Quraizah masih terikat dengan perjanjian Shahifah Madinah yang ditanda tangani bersama Nabi s.a.w., sudah tentu rancangan menghancurkan agama yang dibawa oleh Muhammad akan menemui kegagalan.
Sebab itulah Ka’ab bin Asad ketua Yahudi bani Quraizah dibawa bersama dalam delegasi mengatur kesepakatan membentuk tentera al-Ahzab itu, agar rancangan menghancurkan agama Muhammad itu mencapai kejayaan yang diimpikan.
Pada peringkat awal, Ka’ab bin Asad enggan mengikut rancangan Huyai bin Ahtok, kerana Ka’ab masih tetap menghargai perjanjian yang telah dimeterai bersama dengan Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.. Ka’ab sebagai seorang ulama Yahudi tahu akibat orang yang mengkhianati perjanjian, iaitu mereka akan menerima kehinaan sepanjang hayat.
Ka’ab menolak rancangan Huyai kerana kehidupan Yahudi bani Quraizah di Madinah bergantung rapat dengan perjanjian yang dimeterai bersama Muhammad s.a.w.. Dia lebih selesa hidup dalam keadaan terikat dengan perjanjian tersebut, saling bantu-membantu untuk mengekalkan keamanan yang dinikmati bersama sejak empat tahun lalu di negara Madinah yang dihuni oleh pelbagai etnik dan agama.
Menurut Ka’ab, sepanjang perjanjian dengan Muhammad selama empat tahun berlalu, semua berjalan dalam keadaan baik. Kaab mengakui bahawa Muhammad s.a.w. adalah orang yang amat setia dengan janji. Dia tidak pernah lihat dalam diri Muhammad itu melainkan benar dan setia dengan janji.
Huyai tidak mudah mengalah dalam isu ini, walaupun Ka’ab tetap menunjukkan keengganannya untuk bergabung dalam pakatan itu, namun dia tidak putus asa. Dia seorang Yahudi yang sangat licik dan pintar dalam segala putar belit.
Huyai mengingatkan Ka’ab bahawa Muhammad adalah orang buruan yang menumpang hidup di Madinah. Penduduk Makkah telah menghambatnya hingga dia terpaksa lari malam meninggalkan kampung halaman. Tiba-tiba Yahudi bani Quraizah yang sudah sekian lama bertapak di Madinah, terpaksa mengikat setia dengan seorang pelarian.
Ka’ab diperlekeh oleh Huyai atas pendiriannya, terikat dengan perjanjian dengan seorang buruan dari negara lain, tanpa memiliki apa-apa yang boleh dibanggakan. Di manakah kewajaran Ka’ab yang mengetuai Yahudi bani Quraizah, sanggup mengikat diri dan kaumnya dalam satu perjanjian yang hanya menguntungkan Muhammad dan orang-orang pelarian yang bersamanya. Kerana dengan perjanjian itu, orang-orang pelarian pimpinan Muhammad hidup aman dan dilindungi oleh penduduk asal Madinah.
Apakah yang bangsa Yahudi bani Quraizah dapat dari kesetiaannya mengikat diri dengan perjanjian itu? Tanya Huyai kepada Ka’ab. Jika bani Quraizah bersama dalam rancangan yang membabitkan Arab Quraisy yang menguasai Makkah, bererti mendukung satu tugas mulia membebaskan Madinah dari cengkaman orang-orang pelarian yang diketuai oleh Muhammad.
Huyai meyakinkan Ka’ab, bahawa Makkah berada dalam kekuasan sekutu mereka, dan Madinah pula akan dikuasainya selepas Muhammad dan orang-orangnya dicabut kekuasaannya di Madinah. Ini bererti satu pembebasan dari belenggu penguasaan pendatang asing.
Apakah kemuliaan yang diperolehi berkawan dan berjanji setia dengan orang-orang pelarian yang hidup menumpang di Madinah. Lebih baik mengikat pakatan dengan Arab Quraisy Makkah, kerana mereka orang-orang bertanggungjawab menjaga Ka’bah. Mereka mempunyai kekayaan harta yang membolehkan jalinan perdagangan antara saudagar-saudagar Yahudi Madinah dengan para saudagar Arab Makkah yang menjanjikan keuntungan yang besar.
Sungguh hebat hujah-hujah yang dikemukakan oleh Huyai bagi mengubah pendirian Ka’ab, yang peringkat awalnya begitu setia dengan perjanjian yang dimeterai bersama Muhammad s.a.w.. Tetapi akhirnya Ka’ab terpengaruh dengan segala alasan dan hujah yang dikemukan oleh Huyai ketua Yahudi bani Nadir itu.
Cair juga akhirnya pendirian Ka’ab. Dia setuju untuk menyertai pakatan yang diatur oleh Huyai. Dengan itu bererti Yahudi bani Quraizah telah mengakhianati perjanjian Madinah. Perubahan sikap Yahudi bani Quraizah itu menyebabkan suasana kota Madinah menjadi tegang. Mereka sudah berada di ambang peperangan yang besar.
Assalamualaikum Tun;
To HANAN and BLADELIZARD,
Hope to get your feedback of my last article dated Feb 16,2009
Finally someone said it right, tq RyscheClyde
your no. 6 comment is the best advise of all…..tq so much
im out.
May peace be upon all mankind.
Dear BladeLizard
It seems that you are better and well-behaved than our Prophet…..Why dont you use your “kindness (as oppose to terror” and create a new religion….let’s see how many billion people will follow you. People surely hate terror, the prophet who spreads religion thru hatred must not be able to attract a large number of followers. But can you tell me how many muslims now in the world? What’s the fastest growing religion now? Islam spreads the world over, in many countries, many different races,tribes,nations not only the Arab etc. That last until now……..Islam is still here.
Do you read the Quran? Yes it’s in Arabic. If you are Arab (sorry I know you hate Arab), and you know the language, it doesn’t mean that you will understand the book. Quran is not history book, you must learn the religion and understand it so that you could interpret the meaning of every word and phrase in the book. That’s why even the Arab that understand Arabic,have different interpretation regarding certain things in the Quran…..and there are different sect of Islam…..Sunni,Shi…..Sufi….Alawite etc…….why is that so?
You understand English and you can read our constitution, it doesnt mean that you can become lawyer or judge. You have to learn law, right? You understand english and you read computer book,doesnt mean you can become a programmer.
The prophet married 11 wife, 2 of them are Jews. Only one are virgin. You call that sex maniac? You dont have to marry anybody if what you are thinking is all about sex…..just do it…..no need to marry….you are powerful…why marry? Marriage means you have the responsibilty to your wives. Do you have a wife? Why do you marry her,if you have one?
Jews are massacred…because they are not truthful, when they enter into agreement………they break it…..that’s it.
The Prophet Of Terror and The Religion Of Peace, are you the writer of that articles?
All that is said in the article……..happened 2000 years ago…Now we have happened in front of our very eyes it’s not even ten years…..it is just last month (Gaza massacre). and still continue……………..my fren.
You keep saying we are the slave of the Arab (the Master you said)….and I have to say you are the slave of the Jews……(US n Israel)
Dear all,
1. There is no point arguing with the JEWS. You can write what ever you think is right, you can condemn the JEWS, but right now at this very moment (while you reading my comment, you’re actually using JEWISH product).
2. The JEWS are an arrogant people, Ive met few Israelites and I did try to have a conversation with them- but they are not friendly. Especially when they know that you’re a muslim.
3. The ZIONIST ultimate goal is to widened their land as big as they can get. But first they need to crush the Muslims. Then followed by Christians,Hinduism,Bhuddism, and so on..Because the ZIONIST want their city to be the central command HQ of the entire EARTH.
4. Ive nothing much to say about the JEW, all I can say personally- that they are arrogant, an opportunist, cold hearted, and a twisted mind.
5. My advice to anyone who come across with the JEW- Just avoid them. Dont talk..dont even look at their eyes..for it will curse you till death. JUST IGNORE- if a jewish move into your neighbour hood- pack your things and move somewhere else- cause a single jew in a community can create a dissasterous problem that will bring disunity. AND THAT IS FACT
6. JUST IGNORE- TURN YOURSELF AWAY- AVOID..just KEEP ON AVOID..
*yawn* *yawn*…peace and harmony. I’ve heard that since …hm cant remember……..can someone recall how many time the brains & leaders of the world discuss on peace…the UN, the US, the Arab League.
Malaysian, China, Japanese, Koreaa & most of the eastern region are in peace (for the time being). While the western has been in war since……hm again i cant remember.
and there will only be peace if people around the Globe if mankind submit purely to the Lord of ALL creation
To all who have commented before me,
I understand how you may be angry because this person called Hanan dares to defend the Jewish community when we know so well that they are nothing but treacherous murderers and cheats.
However, most of your attempts to put him in his place are failing as the name-calling and angry rants only succeed in degrading your credibility. Frankly, in the eyes of an outsider, the only ones deserving respect or even consideration are Dr Mahathir and Hanan himself. Except for a handful who have managed to keep their head, only Dr Mahathir and Hanan have been arguing rationally, using facts and fairly formed opinion (not without basis or reason) to uphold their stand.
Please, fellow commentors, do not disgrace ourselves. Indeed, Malaysians are said to be known for our Budi Bahasa. Let’s not forget that ourselves. Argue fairly. Otherwise, its just turning into racism.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
My last comment did not appear here Tun, got lost in transit I presume. Did you have anything to do with it, Tun? Never mind, maybe it doesn’t deserve to be read.
The heat in this section is becoming quite unbearable Tun, tugs of words and fists of fury. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if everyone is able to exchange ideas and knowledge and try to communicate intellectually and in a respectful manner and behaviour without intimidating and scoffing and gibing each other.
Insults on one’s belief and religion has been a domineering topic here. If this is allowed to go on, immense enemosity will emerge and this will hinder the right thinking minds people to express themselves professionally thus a tendency to act or to hit back impulsively. We should not embroil in this manner anymore but instead aspire to find peace, make peace, uphold peace and embrace peace.
Scars resulting from wars cannot be erased from memories instantly but hopefully it can be faded away slowly but surely through peace.
Nevertheless Tun to grasp peace in our hands and to feel peace emitting through us is not easy but neither it is impossible. All it takes is to admit that none of us is perfect and mighty above the other. To help the weak and helpless is divine.
Tun, I fully support your every approaches you take to make the world hear and listen to you to make war a crime. This is a very hard task but a very noble one and every human beings who love peace must shoulder this task too and not leave Tun alone to fight on his own.
Tun you’re not only a doctor to cure one’s wounds but also an architecture of world peace and justice.
Take good care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
their forefarthers turn their back from an apostle named (Jesus)…..who came with CLEAR revelation from GOD…..i.e Cruxifiacation!
and now their descendants demand more facts and figures…….*yawn*
you only being unjust to yourself…..not to others
take care all
assalamualaikum
they refuse to listen to Jesus, Zachariah, Muhammad….who came….with ..GOD revelation….&…miracles…yet..they brand the prophets as …sorcerer, lunatic and maniac…
…and why should they listen to us….hehehe…such a waste of time arguing with them.
Ali Baba,
Yes, Hanan is ” Loughing” at me. Propaganda and History is two different entities. Which you failed to understand both.
I would recommend to you to read it again, eventhough it is very disturbing to your Mohammedan Programmed Mind, which still denies and will continue to deny truth. I , on the other hand would still continue to educate ” people” on the fallacies of your sacred belief. And the results are positive so far.
Good luck trying to adjust your mental faculty to the articles. Read and get read. Then if you are brave enough, raise the article contents with your local Imam and see if he himself knows of all this.
Then you decide.
lalok n tidor.
dont confuse it as a deabate, but it is more of a debacle of mohammedans trying to disprove Israel. No matter what any mohammedan say about Israel, they will exist and they will prevail. You know why??? it is the obvious. Israel is not a threat to other arab nations, in which we can see Jordan,egypt,and some other states have embassies and relations wtih them. Even Indonesia has an Israeli embassy there.
Why Malaysians hate Israel?? it is more of a religious zeal than anything else, as shown in your writing below:
“so many prophet was send to guide them to the straight path….ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MANY PROPHETs THEY TRIED TO KILL……and still they think that GOD favoured them…..but yet we are still in debate with them…..funny.”
And to me , it is funny for you to champion your Arab Masters.
Adam, Oh Really? Please show me where i choked up on your prophet? And how I insulted your prophet?
Those articles are the obvious reality that you have chosen to close one eyes upon. It is up to you to free yourself. Or remain scared for life.
Assalamualaikum Tun;
Dear Hanan and Bladelizard and all readers.
1) Very very interesting reading your articles. Do you really study Quran and all those hadiths to find the truth or to satisfy your own agenda.???
2) Did JEW get any new prophet that you guys been waiting for ??? Quran said Muhammad is the last prophet and so far I hear no new prophet after him.
3) I am a Muslim and the most important word everyday come out from me and muslim people when we pray, eat or whatever we do always start with BISMILLAH HIRROHMANIR ROHIM and the meaning is “In the name of Allah the” most beneficent and merciful”. There are 99 names of Allah can choose i.e the most powerful etc, but why “RAHMAN “( beneficent) and “RAHIM “( merciful). Because ALLAH want all of us His creation (human) to have that kind of attitude ( beneficent and merciful) toward others. There are no problem of Muslim, Jews and Christian only those politician created and continue create all the hatred , wars etc. If all of us are beneficent and merciful towards others , there will be no war. Well to do neighbor will look after hungry and miserable neighbor.
4) Muslim ruled Spain for few hundred years and Palestine Muslim ruled what you call now Israel before. You will never realize how fair their attitude towards non Muslim during those days ( may not be perfect ). Are Palestinian people being fairly treated ???
5) Why not see the beauty of Quran and study the miracles of those verses (the truth of Quran) that only were revealed or proven correct with modern sciences. If those verses were man made then those verses will be revealed as man made by the modern sciences.
6) On the hadith , translation and also your own statement those are merely another type of translation or what you guys think/intepret. For example of Saffiyah there are several way you can put in your head and write what ever your head interpret it . …
If it is in Quran then I will agree with you as Quran is words of ALLAH by Muslims. If just only based on several hadiths and when there are contradicting against each other , I will throw away all those hadiths as those are man made book like what happen to big portion of Thorah and Bible proven to be man made. Saffiyah may be happily marrying our prophet Muhammad. Do you know the actual ending ????? I believe big NO. So what you put down in writing is actually is an insult. Unless you know the actual incident???How dare you say a word “rape” done by prophet??? Extremely insulting .
7) We the Muslim have to know the 25 Prophets mentioned in Quran whereby Moses and Jesus are among them. We don’t dare to judge, criticize or say anything bad about those two Prophets and other Prophets.
8) Quran also said that it will take care of all those verses from any alteration to be done by human kind. If you don’t believe in Quran that said Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet then believe in your Thorah and Bible that said there will be another messenger of GOD.
Unless you have a choice (or proven Prophet Muhammad is not the real or fake Prophet ) then to be safe in the life after death it is better that you believe in Muhammad as the last Prophet as it could also the actual correct or the last messenger sent by god/Allah. Both of you are intelligent and why not take the safest road or at least respect other religions.
9) If you study Quran. Allah always use the phraise ” YA AIYUHALLAZI NA A MANU WA A MI LUSSOLEHAT” where it refer to all those person with “faith ” (iman) and do good deeds (soleh)” . SO for Allah the heaven is not just for Muslim but to those that have faith and also good persons. I believe that all those with faith and always do good things are all Muslim in the eyes of Allah /God. In fact we the Muslim believe that if we die with the LAILLAHAILLALLAH (shahadah) is said by us ( No other god beside ALLAH) we have 100% change go to heaven eventhough we have the taste the hell” first for some of the sins.
It is not fair that Allah/GOD will chose only one religion or one group of races to go to heaven … then the rest go to hell. Then why GOD created so many races/colours/etc and put certain chosen race/religion to heaven and the rest to go to hell. God is at the fault then. If you read Quran carefully then you will understand that what ever religious you are and if you truly with ggod faith (iman) and do so many good deeds ( soleh) then no problem the Angle (or Gabriel ) that take your life away will accept you to go to heaven or teach you to say the shahadah in what ever languages/religions etc as long as it is acceptable by GOD/Allah. … up to Allah. I will not accept a religion that say only that is the only religion that will take you to heaven ,then what happen to rest .That is the beauty of Islam.
10) In fact we should learn and respect all other religions and will not be wrong in the after life as you will get one of it to be right if you accept /respect all religions. World will be very boring if only one language/one race/one culture/one skin colour. I love those varieties.
11) There are a lot of things in Quran that make me have such faith and believe in it. It is not just because I was borne as a Muslim . How Quran explain about creation of human/babies it is proven right only after modern science, about universe etc are proven correct…. and it also said Muhammad is the last prophet whereby until now there is yet to appear new prophet.
12) Why not treat all human kind as your own family, if you truly believe we all come from ADAM ( also first human and first prophet for Muslim). Then let Palestine people to have their life what you want your family to live. Then for sure they will love you instead of hate you.
But first both of you, Hanan and BladeLizard need to kill that hatred toward Palestine and Muslim first as if you don’t kill that hatred then you kill the people because of hatred. What happen in Palestine and your country is not because of killing the bad people will solve the problem. It is to kill the hatred in order to save people/children/culture etc….
13 I do hope Hanan and Bladelizard will not put more things on the screen or no more reason people to keep on hatred at each other. Why not putting something how they can work together and love each other. How many children/people you want to see to get kill because a lot of politicians have that such of piece of mind like you??? Please deeply think about it…there are millions good muslims , jew, christian etc . I sincerely hope Hanan and Bladelizard to do better thing in life by really or remotely adapting a Palestinian suffering kid and save that kid from hating you to loving you . Just kill all your hatred … ALL OF YOU…..If you cannot adopt the Palestinian kid then please study or do research and then write us an article how to kill those hatred in order to save innocent kids/human beings. I challenge you to do this!!!
Regards/Salam
Peace for all of us.
to lalok n tidor
logically would be if you provided factual details to confirm Islam is true. you done none of it. except lots of “hurrays”
to tahir56
“1A:- Perhaps HANAN never said this at this debate but tell me if this is not the case, and jews don
Dear Hanan,
Hanan: What about Muslims pretending being experts in Judaism or Christianity?
Ali Baba: Propaganda, if suddenly he raises and criticizes the Judaism or Christianity with his limited knowledge about it. My knowledge about Zionism and Talmud is limited, that
Assalamualaikum,
Hehehe, it’s funny to see a lot of intellectual debate between the so called Children of Israel versus Moslems…….
so many times the Children of Israel turns their back from GOD since the days of Moses till the day of Elijah, John and etc.
so many prophet was send to guide them to the straight path….ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MANY PROPHETs THEY TRIED TO KILL……and still they think that GOD favoured them…..but yet we are still in debate with them…..funny.
bear the fact that…most Christians in Europe now see Islam as the true revelation from GOD. and most of these Chrisitians (prior becoming a Moslem) spent most of their time doing research on Judaism, Islam and Christianity.
After those thorough research, it was Islam that they chose, the Muslim did not pursuade them neither the Moslem did not threaten them. Simply & logically because, they see Islam is the religion for mankind.
Islam is for CHinese, Islam is for the poor, Islam is for the Austronesian, Islam is for Arabs, Islam is for Hindi, Tamil, Sikh….Islam is for Irish, Islam is for the CHilrend of Israel, Islam is for ALL.
GOD creates mankind from Adam and all mankind are only servant to GOD and all shall return to GOD and be judge justly.
O people of Israel, please do not turn your back from GOD, the end is near. FEAR GOD AND ONLY GOD…..commit to the teaching of Abraham pbuh, Ishmael pbuh, Isaac pbuh, Jacob pbuh, Moses pbuh, Jesus pbuh and Muhammad pbuh. seek the truth and that truth will guide you.
MERCIFUL GOD OF ALL CREATION,
GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT PATH, THE PATH OF WHOM YOU FAVOURED. NOT THE PATH OF THOSE WHO INCURRED YOUR DISPLEASURE AND OF THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY.
Bladelizard, your words choked in the web of ignorant.
If I read it clearly, there is a phrases in your comment insulting the prophet.
Muslim readers, do not be fooled by him.
to ygalg
To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: “You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God
The Zionist never wanted Peace.
Count Bernadotte, the U.N elected mediator for peace in Palestine.
Assassinated on September 17th 1948 by the Stern Gang.
“The UN mediator was struck by six bullets and died instantly, along with a French officer seated next to him”.
Stern Gang leaders, were charged with belonging to a terrorist organization.
Some of the the members of the Stern Gang went on to become a priminister ( Shamir 1983) and members of parliament ( Yellin-Mor ).
If one kills the mediator of peace, one kills peace itself.Therefore, from the onset, Zionism never wanted peace.
Peace would mean giving up the illegal settlements and illegal lands.
Moshe Dayan’s Tractors
“I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80 percent, but let’s talk about 80 percent. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plough someplace where it wasn’t possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn’t shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that’s how it was.”
— Moshe Dayan, Israel’s former Minister of Defence, describing how to provoke a military incident on the Golan Heights. From a 1976 interview with Yediot Ahronot newspaper, given on condition that it not be published till after his death. Cited in Ari Shavit’s The Iron Wall, p.236-237.
The word PEACE ( for the Zionist )is just a hoax!.
Dear Tun,
Remember Shylock?
Israel is a pariah state, an accursed nation.
The Jews betray and kill prophets.
And crucified Jesus Christ.
The Jews are a treacherous people, the source of all
troubles in the world, during ancient times and in the present day.
Shall we forget Shylock and his thirst for Christian blood? As it
was then so it is today. And that is the truth. Don’t let us be
deluded.
The crisis nations of the world is grappling with today, the
shutting down of huge industries, and the millions that are forced
out of jobs is directly linked to the criminal greed of banks
owned by Jews.
Through their blinkered view of religion they dare to declare
themselves the chosen of God and falsely believe that they are
the rightful inheritors of this earth and all it’s bounty.
As a people History has no lesson for them. They will continue
to rush on, headlong with their boasts and arrogance. And sooner
than later they will find themselves as a people hunted and
persecuted again.
Let all people who believe in religion and True Guidance remember
Shylock, his greed and his evil.
Dear Tun,
Remember Shylock?
Israel is a pariah state, an accursed nation.
The Jews betray and kill prophets.
And crucified Jesus Christ.
The Jews are a treacherous people, the source of all
troubles in the world, during ancient times and in the present day.
Shall we forget Shylock and his thirst for Christian blood? As it
was then so it is today. And that is the truth. Don’t let us be
deluded.
The crisis nations of the world is grappling with today, the
shutting down of huge industries, and the millions that are forced
out of jobs is directly linked to the criminal greed of banks
owned by Jews.
Through their blinkered view of religion they dare to declare
themselves the chosen of God and falsely believe that they are
the rightful inheritors of this earth and all it’s bounty.
As a people History has no lesson for them. They will continue
to rush on, headlong with their boasts and arrogance. And sooner
than later they will find themselves as a people hunted and
persecuted again.
Let all people who believe in religion and True Guidance remember
Shylock, his greed and his evil.
Dear Ali Baba,
What about Muslims pretending being experts in Judaism or Christianity?
When someone is saying something something opposed to your opinion, does it mean it is propaganda?
Everone bears close to him what he believes is the truth.
When you say it is propaganda it is not proving that what you say is true and not proving that BladeLizard is wrong.
I think, in counter to you, I’m reading most of the comments here even I disagree many of them and try to see if they are still valid as truth. I’m not saying that the things I dont like are propaganda.
Shalom,
Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.
And for a small note, PKR is a bunch of political losers. Mahatir Velaichan, you made this country. No doubt. But you also ruined it eventually. I wouldnt blame you. One man surrounded by thieves and liars cannot make the majority ” approved” decisions.
This is how everything are today after you left it. Corrupt and ruined.
cyborg malaya. Noted. They are Saidina Ali brach of Shiites.Yes alawites are in Tureky and syria. ( Assad family are one of them).
But now it raises the question, why do you label them as ” strange”?? because they are not Sunni’s? What different are they than say the Sufi’s? Bahai’s , ahmadites? Let alone the numerous branches of mohammedans that is around and even the Local Ayah Pin gang!
here are a good link on the discussions in FFI
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=285903&sid=98de793900399e8dd0186e0f7b6d10c2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi
Ha ha ha…………very cheap propaganda by BladeLizard! Non muslim is pretending to be an expert in Islam. What a fool! You’re not good enough to be Salman Rushdie nor Geert Wilders. Even Hanan will lough at you. What a pity!
Dear BladeLizard,
You said “Also, Read read read. Dont hate just because you are told to hate” So we are in a reading trip now……….
Anyway have you read the book that you gave us the abstract from?
Alawites rule Syria….who is Alawite? Here is an abstract from http://www.muslimhope.com/Alawites.htm (plesae visit this site to read more…..)
‘Alawites are an offshoot of Shi’ites. Some other Muslims, particularly in Syria and Lebanon, accept them as Muslims, but others consider themheretics (ghali) and outside of Islam. ‘Alawites have seven pillars of Islam, including Jihad and devotion to ‘Ali,who is divine. ‘Alawites believe in drinking wine, and they have something similar to a communion service. Tens of thousands of ‘Alawites have been killed by other Muslims, but today ‘Alawites are in control in the country of Syria.
Who are these people? What do the following have in common: a persecuted people, wild outlaws, a battery-powered electric messiah, and control of the country of Syria today. Who is it that believes in a “Trinity”, whose Supreme manifestation is Muhammad,
To Hanan and his Jewish clan.
Yes, Ariel Sharon is the most infamous butcher of the innocent Palestian people- old men and women, mothers, girls and ladies, youngsters, infants, and unborn babies living in refugee camps.
For killing so many innocent Palestinian lives, God has cursed the satanic Ariel for the whole world to bear witness of his crime against Palestinian huminity. His semi-corpse is a testimony akin to the mummified of the Pharoah, whom God had cursed for disobeying and attempting to kill prophet Mosses.
God had gifted the knowledge of building great pyramid to the ancient Egyptian, in order to preserve the corpses of Pharoah for the human race to witness them till the end of the world. The curse of God to the Pharoah is infinite and beyond human immagination. Though the Pharoah had been given the best burial in the great pyramid, but the mother earth herself has been forbidden to take back Pharoah’s remains as part of the earth, but to be kept as museum’s relics for the entire generation of humanity to bear witness of this great satanic ruler.
I would like to advice the Jewish authority to preserve the semi-corpse of Ariel in a glass box and place in the national Jewish meseum, similar to the famous Pharoah’s remains kept at the British meseum.
To Hanan and his Jewish clan.
Yes, Ariel Sharon is the most infamous butcher of the innocent Palestian people- old men and women, mothers, girls and ladies, youngsters, infants, and unborn babies living in refugee camps.
For killing so many innocent Palestinian lives, God has cursed the satanic Ariel for the whole world to bear witness of his crime against Palestinian huminity. His semi-corpse is a testimony akin to the mummified of the Pharoah, whom God had cursed for disobeying and attempting to kill prophet Mosses.
God had gifted the knowledge of building great pyramid to the ancient Egyptian, in order to preserve the corpses of Pharoah for the human race to witness them till the end of the world. The curse of God to the Pharoah is infinite and beyond human immagination. Though the Pharoah had been given the best burial in the great pyramid, but the mother earth herself has been forbidden to take back Pharoah’s remains as part of the earth, but to be kept as museum’s relics for the entire generation of humanity to bear witness of this great satanic ruler.
I would like to advice the Jewish authority to preserve the semi-corpse of Ariel in a glass box and place in the national Jewish meseum, similar to the famous Pharoah’s remains kept at the British meseum.
An article of Mohammedan hate origins against the jews by a dear friend of mine.
Read and get read.
By Syed Kamran Mirza
[email protected]
July 6, 2007
In the post 9/11 era of this modern-world, Islamists around the globe are busy with
housewife,
Have you ever met a Jewish woman?????? I guess not.
This is what happens when you are blind in the inside. I am glad that you have shown your true colors here as this is the wish of every single mohammedans to have their arab masters protected by all means. See how much of a slave you have become!! It is sad to see ALL of you behaving senselessly towards the Jews. I have commented earlier but TDM still havent posted it as yet. It contains some facts that might cure your blindness.
As for your beloved profit and his invention, i just want you to do a little home work. Take time reading this. I hope you will finally wake up. As i reiterated in many many forums, I really think that 99.99% of mohammedans malays read the Koran in arabic without understanding its meaning or they simply enjoy pronouncing the arabic language out of spite. This is very very dangerous for the young minds especially.
Prophet of Terror and the Religion of Peace
I n my last article, I articulated the three main motivations of Mohammed’s heinous actions. To reiterate, these reasons were:
1. His fanatic greed for all the wealth that had been created by the blood, sweat and toil of the Jews
2. His maniacal craving for power at any cost. The Jews were the biggest obstacle in his plan to subjugate all of Medinah, so they had to be removed, by any means possible
3. His fear of all other religions. Mohammed was a delusional Megalomaniac, meaning he believed that he was the Supreme Ruler of the world. Anything that threatened this sick fantasy of his, had to be exterminated. Since, the religion of the Jews rejected his pathetic claims to Divine rule, they were the targeted victims in Medinah, just as the Polytheistic Arabs had been his victims in Mecca.
As the frequency of his criminal raids and attacks on Jews, Christians and Pagan Arabs increased to a fever pitch, Mohammed’s megalomania began evidencing itself more openly. He started implementing his systematic objectives of completely suppressing all opposition around Medinah and plundering as much wealth as he could get his hands on, in order to support his final thrust of attacking Mecca.
11) Massacre of Jewish Tribesmen
Date: February 628 A.D
Place: Outskirts of Medinah
Victims: Banu Sa’d Tribe, Thirty Jews from Khaybar
Mohammed was forcing all the tribes around Medinah to make alliances with him and consider him as the primary power in the area. Any tribe who refused to bow down to the Muslim’s terrorist tactics, was immediately subjected to extreme torture and death. Banu Sa’d was a peaceful tribe which was allied with the Jewish Tribesmen of the prosperous oasis of Khaybar. Mohammed was pathological in his fear of opposition. Having murdered all the Jews in and around Medinah, who could pose a potential threat to his rabid bid for power, the Prophet of Islam now was turning his attention to the only possible threat in the area, Khaybar. The Jews of Khaybar had remained neutral when the Meccans had planned a counterattack on Medinah. This enraged Mohammed all the more and fuelled his savage desire to destroy them and tribes like the Banu Sa’d that was linked to them. He sent out a terrorist group of assassins led by Ali. The expedition massacred hundreds of innocent Banu Sa’d tribespeople. They raped all the women and children and stole 500 camels and 2000 goats and sheep. A unit of thirty murderous assassins were hand-picked by the Epitome of Mercy, to infiltrate the sorrounding areas of Khaybar as well. They disguised themselves as Emissaries of PEACE from Mohammed. The Jewish Leader, Usayr Ibn Razim agreed in the interest of peace to accompany them back to the Prophet. He set out with thirty of his men, following the Muslims. As soon as they were out of sight of Khaybar, the muslims fell upon the innocent and hapless Jews and chopped them into pieces. Upon returning Mohammed himself came out to greet his assassins. He embraced the leader of the expedition and exclaimed ” It was Allah surely, who saved you from the company of the oppressive non-believers”. The above example should amply demonstrate what a man of honour, the great Mohammed was. Indeed it can only be a truly pious person who would trick people with an offer of peace and cold-bloodedly MURDER them. Mohammed’s intense hatred for the thorns in his flesh, namely the Jews, began manifesting itself in the spate of vitriolic Revelations, that he conjured up to justify his atrocities on the Jews.
Koran 5:64
“The Jews say: “Allah’s hand is tied up”. Be their hands tied up and be they ACCURSED for the blasphemy that they utter. Nay, Both his hands (Allah’s) are widely outstretched: He giveth and Spendeth as he Pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to Thee (Mohammed) from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed ENMITY and HATRED till the day of Judgement. Every time they kindle the fire of War, Allah doth extinguish it; But they ever strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not people who do mischief.”
The bit about Jews saying “Allah’s hand is tied up” is referring to their protest at the fact that Mohammed and the Muslims had taken control of all the wealth. The Jews who had initially helped the Muslims, when they had nothing, now had every morsel of food snatched from them. The sarcastic comment therefore referred to the fact that it seemed like Allah’s hands were tied when it came to providing even a meagre sustenance for the starving, oppressed Jews, at the mercy of the pious band of criminals of Allah. But even more pathetic is Mohammed’s claim that the reason the Jews were acting so damned rebellious and obstinately opposing the Muslims, was that they were JEALOUS that Allah had hand-picked Mohammed to get his murderous revelations. This is laughably incredulous and mortifying considering the fact that Mohammed pieced together so many of his Koranic revelations, by distoring and twisting parts of the Jewish and Christian scriptures. Even more repugnant is the fact that a Prophet claiming to be the Messenger of a supposedly all beneficient and Merciful God, wishes nothing but ENMITY, HATRED, EVIL and CURSES on the Jews. Do such emotions sound like the wishes of a religious figure that preaches PEACE??? The Prophet of Islam was nothing but a wellspring of malice, hatred and blind poisonous jealousy.
12) Murder of Bedouins in and Meccans on the road to Syria
Date: January- February 628 A.D.
Place: Dumat-Al-Jandal, a trading center enroute to Syria, The Well of Qarda atNejed
Victims: Bedouin women, Meccan Caravan
Zayd Ibn Haritha, the adopted son of the Prophet who divorced his wife, so that his Good Old Dad could have the pleasure, was sent to attack traders in Syria. The Bedouins who were also trading at the outpost, got wind of the Muslims nefarious plans, took up arms and drove away the would-be raiders. Zayd was furious that his plans had been foiled so successfully. He targeted an elderly woman of the same Bedouin Tribe, because she exerted considerable influence and wealth. On a dark moonless night, the aged 90 year old woman was grabbed ruthlessly from her tent. She was tied up and trussed like a chicken and brought back to the Muslim camp. Upon arrival she was gang raped and molested by the pious followers of Allah. She was whipped and beaten to an almost lifeless pulp. The sadistic impulses of the Muslims however did not end there, the night’s entertainment was not done yet. The eerie desert night, suddenly resounded with the cheers and throaty cries of bloodlust as the Bedouin matron’s arms and legs were tied to four camels. Zayd and three others of Mohammed’s select group, then climbed onto each camel and drove each one into opposite directions. As the wrinkled body was ripped apart in a blur of torn and bloodied flesh, cries of delight echoed all around. Such were the entertainment activities of the Peace loving followers of Allah.
Soon after at the Well of Qarda in Nejed, Zayd along with 170 men attacked a hapless trade caravan of Meccans who were returning from Syria. They massacred most of the traders and took two of the men prisoner. But most important of all, the Muslims grabbed a sizeable booty from this cold blooded massacre. They plundered more than a hundred thousand dirhems from this raid. It is no wonder then, that Zayd Ibn Haritha was an “Exalted Martyr”. According to Mohammed himself “And Zayd, the Freedman of Muhammad, counted his freedom as naught compared with the service of Muhammad and Islam.”
All of these activities, were of course, motivated by the divine words of Wisdom, spoken by the Messenger of Allah.
Koran 5:33
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land Is: Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land: That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”
The gruesome spectacle of the Bedouin woman being torn apart, now makes sense. The act was DIRECTLY sanctioned by Allah himself in this Revelation. The plunder and and massacre of the Meccans too, were completely pious Islamic acts as the following verse evidences:
Koran 5:33
” And many gains will they (Pious Muslims) acquire besides, and Allah is Exalted in Power, full of Wisdom. Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall Acquire and he has given you these beforehand; and he has restrained the hands of Men from you; so that it may be a sign for the Believers and that he may guide you to a Straight Path. And other gains there are, which are not within your power now, but which Allah has compassed for you and Allah has Power over all things.”
Allah is giving his kind blessings to the merciful and pure Muslims, to go out and PLUNDER and acquire as many “Gains” as their hearts desire. But Allah’s bribes are far more quantitative, he is generous to a fault and will not stop there. Allah is giving his beloved Muslims assurance, that there will be Far more Wealth to plunder in the future. Not only that, Allah will “restrain the hands” of Men from harming the Muslims, so that they can keep on raping, pillaging and murdering throughout the land. Allah surely knows how to give Muslims a good deal in exchange for all the blood that they will shed for him and the messenger of Peace.
13) Slaughter of all Jews in Khaybar
Date: September 628 A.D
Place: Khaybar and surrounding areas
Victims: Over 500 Jews of Khaybar
Khaybar was the wealthiest Oasis in the Hejaz. The settlement of neutral Jews who inhabited the Oasis were known for their business acumen. Over the years, they had by their own efforts, sweat and toil converted the small Oasis into a flourishing Trade Center of agricultural goods. They were renowned for their extreme generosity, good naturedness and peacability. In other words, the small jewel of a town was like the juiciest piece of meat, which a Vulture like Mohammed could never resist. Mohammed could no longer control his slavering desire to attack Khaybar. His immense greed for the fabulous wealth of the Oasis had overwhelmed him. He had been systematically eradicatiing all the potential tribes that could support Khaybar. Allies of the Khaybar Jews, like the Bedouin Tribe of Ghatafan and the Jewish Tribe of Banu S’ad had been cold bloodedly eliminated and exhorted so that Khaybar would be without friends. The Prophet set out with 1600 men and laid siege to the Oasis. Although greatly outnumbered, the brave Jews fought bravely and staved off the bloodthirsty Mob of Muslims, for over 14 days. In the end the sheer disadvantage of numbers and the starving state of their children forced the Jews to surrender. They emerged with all their, weapons, foodstuffs and wealth, pleading only for the lives of themselves and their families. Instead the Exalted Messenger of Peace, instructed his army to do exactly as they pleased. The frenzied Muslims pounced upon the helpless Jews and murdered every man they could lay their hands on. Women and children were raped brutally and repeatedly . The Prophet led the way as usual. His eye had fallen upon the most beautiful captive in Khaybar, a Jewess called Safia Bint Huyay. As she stood there traumatised and anguished at having just witnessed her father and fiancee being hacked to pieces, the Prophet threw his cloak on her to claim as his booty. Minutes later he savagely consummated his “marriage” to her in a sand dune with the blood and gore of Jihad still covering him, even Saifya’s father’s blood, no doubt. There was no time for a sponsor, dowry, sending out invitations, or a wedding feast, in fact, Muhammed forgot his own law of waiting until her next monthly period had passed. Today we call that rape, but according to the Prophet of Allah, he was just securing her with the bonds of “holy Matrimony”. Indeed the Prophet had committed himself to saving widows in need by marrying them! The remaining women and children who were rounded up were traded in the slave market or retained to be brought up as brainwashed sex slaves, professing Islam.
Allah’s Divine Injunctions had naturally preceded the carnage at Khaybar. As usual the Merciful Allah condoned the slaughter, plunder and rapine committed by Mohammed and his band. :
Koran 33:26
“And those of the People of the Book (Jews) who Aided Them (Meccans) – Allah did take them from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts, so that Some Ye Slew and Some Ye made Prisoners. And he made you heirs of their Lands, their Houses, and their Goods. And of a Land, which Ye had not frequented before (Khaybar) and Allah has Power over all things.”
Koran 2:222
“They ask Thee concerning Women’s courses. Say to them: “They are a Hurt and a Pollution: So keep away from women in their courses (menstrual periods) and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they are purified, Ye may approach them in any manner, time or place. Ordained for you by Allah, for Allah loves those who turn to him constantly and he loves those who keep themselves Pure and Clean.”
As mentioned above, Mohammed himself had received this “Revelation” that Muslims shouldn’t be having sex with women whose monthly period had not passed.
Mohammed of course had outright violated the above rule himself, when he raped Safiya in a beautiful Islamic Wedding ceremony at Khaybar. The Prophet of Wisdom was in a fix. He had no justification for violation of a rule, that he himself had claimed was set by Allah. The only solution was of course, the timely production of some Revelation that would save his ass. Allah in his typical meek and patient manner, was only too happy to oblige. Out spewed two Verses, directly from the quivering Holy Messenger’s mouth.
Koran 66:1-2
“O Prophet! Why holdest Thou to be forbidden That which Allah has made Lawful to Thee? Thou seekest to Please Thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Allah has already ORDAINED for you (Mohammed), the DISSOLUTION OF YOUR OATHS, in some cases and Allah is your Protector; and he is full of Knowledge and Wisdom.”
Not to mention Allah exhibits an unhealthy pattern of complying with Mohammed’s wishes and providing verses that bail him out each time.
With the Conquest of Khaybar, Mohammed was now in exactly the position he desired. He had subjugated all the Tribes around Medinah. He had massacred any significant opposition that may have threatened him, and he had plundered enough wealth to win him hosts of converts willing to kill anything for Booty. He was poised at the threshold of carrying out his heart’s dearest desire; that of attacking and conquering Mecca. But, he would learn his lessons before the realisation of those dreams. In my next article, I will expound further on these lessons and events.
The Works “The Glorious Quran” by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, “The Meaning of the Glorious Quran” by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, “Mohammed” by Maxime Rodinson, and “Muhammad” by Martin Lings have been used to compose this article.
Up to now, it seems that Hanan would not answer to the points I had raised and neither the symphathiser of Hanan
to tahir56
To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: “You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God
tahir56
“Dear Tun! I have been reading every blog you post but this is the first time I am leaving a comment.
To HANAN and all his supporters at this debate I want to say the following.
1: You are taught at your synagouges that you are the God’s chosen people and all the Gentiles”
you been in synagogue?
lalok n tidor
bizarre assertions you are making as there are ancient Torahs date to 7th centurty bce.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3062895,00.html
you’re at fault.
ezra’s second death?
there is no historical records to confirm Arabs are descendants of Ishmael furthermore to affirm Ishmael have existed.
you forgot Deuteronomy 18:15
pretending 18:18 indeed spoke to other than Israelites it would have be Esau’s descendants. not of Ishmael. this only proves the inaccuracies of Muslim scholars
are in concern other religions. but they are human beings it is expected.
but koran who is alleged to be of divine. cannot be forgiven if caught given erroneousness details on other religions. for further elaboration:
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=641
To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Excuse me Tun,
To BladeLizard,
You are so much worst than Hanan! Even Hanan is polite to Tun when he came and still polite when he left. But you are so RUDE! Not civilised and cultured at all. You must had a hard life and so lonely,therefore so so desperate to catch Tun’s attention.
Who are you anyway to mention the Qur’an, the Hadiths and by the way whom do you mean Arab Master….Prophet Muhammad (saw) is that it? He is the true and beloved Prophet of all mankind, to ALL Muslims, not only to the Malays, mind you.
May Allah forever FORBID you from ever mentioning again of His name, His Beloved Prophet and His divine Books to all His prophets.
Have we ever discredit your Books of religious belief (are you a believer?). No.. so why did you? Have some respect please.
Please be reminded that we do not hate the Jews but the Zionists Israelis who oppressed and pounded the weak and the defenceless with their military might mercilessly.
Alas, no use telling over and over again to someone with a heart of stone, like you!
Now who is barking at the wrong tree…you la beeengooong!
Go bark at the mountain instead!
Yea yea not all Malays understand orang putih, so you think the Chinese, Indians understand ka. Oi, ada yang cakap Melayu pun tak tau ni nak hina orang Melayu pula.
Tun, please give no further attention to arrogant and insolent people like him.
They have become so obdurate that whatever truths are laid to them none can soften or wither or mellow them.
You have answered to the calls of Rob and Hanan, so please no more Tun. They’re so irritating and very intimidating and provocative. Ignore them please.
But may I wish them peace be unto them.
Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
dear ygalg,
1st of all i would like to apologized for my words on the bible as a manmade book. it was a bit synical and provocative.
what i really meant was that bible was CORRUPTED by jews scholar after the cruxification of Yahuza (it was not Jesus). The Jew rabbi at that time manipulate the Romans and together they burnt and destroy all the original Bible. Some of them memorized it but corrupt it for unclear purposes. Either to deviate themselves or others. (WALLAHUALAM).
while the torah (taurat) suppoze 2 b the prime scripture for the Israelites before the becoming of Christ, however, after returning from babylon, no one among the Israelites memorized the Torah.
when the prophet Ezra (pbuh)Uzair to some..who before his death had memorized the torah.. …, returned from his death 100 years later, He recites the Torah to some quarters of the children of Israel.
After his second death, no one else among the Israelites had memorized the Torah. Thenafter, the Torah is no longer the prime scripture for the Jews.
However, many of the Muslim scholar believed certain parts of the Bible does have its originality, for instance,
1. the Bible did mentioned about the last prophet from the land of Kedar nearby the deserts & mountains of Paran (Mecca today).
2. The bible also prophezied that :
-The Comforter will come after the departure of Jesus.
-When the Comforter comes, he will reprove the world of sin, truth and justice.
-He will guide the world into all truth.
-The book revealed to him will contain no human word. (Quran)
-He will foretell things to come.
-He will glorify Jesus and clear him of all charges.
3. Among else;
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.”
Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
4. Some of its historical fact : the story of exodus from Egypt have pure similarity with Quran.
My point is, if u scroll up to point no 2. The bible also prophecized that “the book revealed to the Comforter (i.e Muhammad pbuh)will contain no human word”…this refering to Quran….and with a special versed in Quran mention that God promise to protect the authenticity of the Quran and also mention that both the bible and taurat was corrupted by their own scholars.
Hence, u can make your own judgement & reseacrh…..its a free world. after the day of Resurrection only heaven n hell that separate us my brother. Only God knows where we stand in the days of Lifeafter.
Muslim have nothing aginst Christianity or Judaism…..we just glad if you choose the right path. and you can compare the Quran with the rest…i have nothing to gain or nothing to lose.
“Obey those who ask no wages of you (for themselves), and who are rightly guided.” (36:21)
Dear Tun! I have been reading every blog you post but this is the first time I am leaving a comment.
To HANAN and all his supporters at this debate I want to say the following.
1: You are taught at your synagouges that you are the God’s chosen people and all the Gentiles
Assalmualaikum wbt Tun,
The Jews can be so strong and powerful because they believe in themselves, they had gone through a lot of hardship.
Not to mention how they love their own kind, their people and country more than anything.
Compared to us?
We fought, we killed our own kins, for our own need.
We hates our own language, we look down own our own people, we have many beliefs and only that belief is considered ‘truth’.
Why the Japanese can be so strong? why the Jews can be so great that even my pc chip is one of their creation?
Look at the Japanese, why they support Japanese products so much?
Simply because they love their people and have to survived various events.
My 2 cent.
P.s- Cyborg Malaya- Thanks!
History must not be too short………..
Let’s read this.It’s from Wikipedia…….
The Hama massacre (Arabic:
BladeLizard adalah contoh orang putih atau non malay yang anggap orang melayu bodoh….
Boleh jadi dia sendiri orang melayu yang tak mau akui melayu kerana dia anggap orang melayu itu bodoh….
Walhal dia la yang lebih bodoh…. dan nampak sangat bodoh dia….
Dia tak tahu jika dia bodoh kerana dia memang bodoh….
Dear DrPerfect…….
I would like to comment your statement…….
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Israel tetap akan HANCUR 1 hari nanti…Manusia merancang, Tuhan juga merancang…tetapi rancangan Tuhan adalah segala-galanya dan penentu kepada setiap rancangan-rancangan manusia…
This is what happens when Malays are not read in History. Jew this , Jews that… What would you know about the Jews??? Is it all the knowledge of Jews are from your Arab Masters and Koran and Hadiths??
Please wake up. Go meet a Jew someday. Then you will realize that your Arab Master is wrong.
Also, Read read read. Dont hate just because you are told to hate. There area many history books that tells about the Arab Jewish relations before 1947. And Mahatir is Wrong and Blind. He started this issue in the 1970’s with his personal sympathy on the Sabra Shattila issue. Many of you would have forgotten abput this, but it was his mere political mileage trickery that he used to have the Malays surround him and praise him as his their leader.
Where was his voice at the same time when Assad brothers “MURDERED” 50,000 syrians in 2 days in the HAMA incident??? Mahatir, c’mon, answer me. Why didnt you make a war of words with hafeez assad back then?? More mohammedans were murdered there than was in Israel!!! Is it because a mohammedan has the right to do whatever he wants and other mohammedans can just take it lightly???
You are barking at the wrong tree. Here is some excerpts, and for the Melayu’s yang tak tau inggeris, ask your children to translate the below( since Maths and since in English is really doing good for the nation and effective, one of the good things the current goverment have implemented!)
HAMA TRAGEDY
“In February 1982, the Syrian city of Hama became well-known worldwide as the place of the
For an alternative view of this commentary, click below
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=908
Like I said before, the Muslim countries need to develop WMD – Weapons of Mass Destruction to protect ourselves. Why..I think Malaysia needs to develop these weapons too.
To
to lalok n tidor
where do you find Abraham practice Islam in the bible?
funny that Koran contain of these made-man stories thus koran is itself mane made book.
you want argue about it? you can find me at this forum link
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/index.php
Mr. non Jibak
Hanan was just listing out empires of earlier civilization to form comparison in the sense of timeline, other were vanquished but Israeli are still standing firm today and secondly representing them as powerful antagonist against who struggling to survive for centuries and again, as comparison. Did Hanan mentioned something about punishment? It appears that you are twisting away more garbage for recycling purpose perhaps?
sorry for my misquoted of Ishak/isaac/israel….its suppoz to be Jacon/Yaakub/Israel…sorry Mr Joshua n readers.
Mr Joshua,
i like ur comments on the January 29, 2009 8:18 PM,
quite fascinating, however a bit manupulative because the history u wrote mainly trace back from the year 1990’s.
Go to non-jeboak classes and you will learned more.
But still i want to comment on your item 6 line 4, your quote: “Meanwhile the Bible mentions Jerusalem over 800 times and the Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham”.
It’s a bit naive n arrogant of u to relate Prophet Abraham with your descendants or Judaism or Jewish. Prophet Abraham got notting to do with Jewish or whatever you are PREACHING nowadays. He’s a good servant to the GOD of the universe. He never claim he’s a Jewish or practice Judaism.
Your (Jewish) main problem is. I repeat, YOUR MAIN PROBLEM IS. You people are so proud of your Israelist descendants. and that is only Because of most of the PROPHEThood came from the descendants of Isaac/Ishak/Israel.
Heaven or HELL does not chose any descendant or certain ethnic group. ISLAM does not choose any races, ISLAM is 4 ALL….i dont like long comments.
So to make it short. Your limited knowledge of historical roots was due to your 100% trust with the manmade version of the book of BIBLE,TANAKH, TORAH, KETUVIM, TALMUD and GOD knows what and etc.
This is what happen if you keep your faith on a manmade scripture.
Dear Tun,
The state of Israel is with many factors, illegal. With these 101( few?) resolutions agianst the state, I don’t wonder regarding her legitimacy.
Resolution 42: The Palestine Question (5 March 1948) Requests recommendations for the Palestine Commission
Resolution 43: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Recognizes “increasing violence and disorder in Palestine” and requests that representatives of “the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee” arrange, with the Security Council, “a truce between the Arab and Jewish Communities of Palestine…Calls upon Arab and Jewish armed groups in Palestine to cease acts of violence immediately.”
Resolution 44: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Requests convocation of special session of the General Assembly
Resolution 46: The Palestine Question (17 Apr 1948) As the United Kingdom is the Mandatory Power, “it is responsible for the maintenance of peace and order in Palestine.” The Resolutions also “Calls upon all persons and organizations in Palestine” to stop importing “armed bands and fighting personnel…whatever their origin;…weapons and war materials;…Refrain, pending the future government of Palestine…from any political activity which might prejudice the rights, claims, or position of either community;…refrain from any action which will endager the safety of the Holy Places in Palestine.”
Resolution 48: The Palestine Question (23 Apr 1948)
Resolution 49: The Palestine Question (22 May 1948)
Resolution 50: The Palestine Question (29 May 1948)
Resolution 53: The Palestine Question (7 Jul 1948)
Resolution 54: The Palestine Question (15 Jul 1948)
Resolution 56: The Palestine Question (19 Aug 1948)
Resolution 57: The Palestine Question (18 Sep 1948)
Resolution 59: The Palestine Question (19 Oct 1948)
Resolution 60: The Palestine Question (29 Oct 1948)
Resolution 61: The Palestine Question (4 Nov 1948)
Resolution 62: The Palestine Question (16 Nov 1948)
Resolution 66: The Palestine Question (29 Dec 1948)
Resolution 72: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 73: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and “transfer of persons”.
Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) ‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 Mar)
Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 Sep)
Resolution 111: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people”.
Resolution 127: ” … ‘recommends’ Israel suspends its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem”.
Resolution 162: ” … ‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions”.
Resolution 171: ” … determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria”.
Resolution 228: ” … ‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control”.
Resolution 237: ” … ‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees”.
Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area. Calls on Israel’s neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war. Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict
Resolution 248: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan”.
Resolution 250: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem”.
Resolution 251: ” … ‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250″.
Resolution 252: ” … ‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital”.
Resolution 256: ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation”.
Resolution 259: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation”.
Resolution 262: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport”.
Resolution 265: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan”.
Resolution 267: ” … ‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem”.
Resolution 270: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon”.
Resolution 271: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem”.
Resolution 279: ” … ‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon”.
Resolution 280: ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon”.
Resolution 285: ” … ‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon”.
Resolution 298: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem”.
Resolution 313: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon”.
Resolution 316: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon”.
Resolution 317: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon”.
Resolution 332: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon”.
Resolution 337: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty”.
Resolution 338 (22 October 1973): cease fire in Yom Kippur War
Resolution 339 (23 October 1973): Confirms Res. 338, dispatch UN observers.
Resolution 347: ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon”.
Resolution 425 (1978): ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon”. Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon was completed as of 16 June 2000.
Resolution 350 (31 May 1974) established the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, to monitor the ceasefire between Israel and Syria in the wake of the Yom Kippur War.
Resolution 427: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon”.
Resolution 444: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces”.
Resolution 446 (1979): ‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”.
Resolution 450: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon”.
Resolution 452: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories”.
Resolution 465: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program”.
Resolution 467: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon”.
Resolution 468: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return”.
Resolution 469: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians”.
Resolution 471: ” … ‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”.
Resolution 476: ” … ‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claim to Jerusalem are ‘null and void'”.
Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): ‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’.
Resolution 484: ” … ‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors”.
Resolution 487: ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility”.
Resolution 497 (17 December 1981) decides that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
Resolution 498: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon”.
Resolution 501: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops”.
Resolution 508:
Resolution 509: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon”.
Resolution 515: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in”.
Resolution 517: ” … ‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon”.
Resolution 518: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon”.
Resolution 520: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut”.
Resolution 573: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
Resolution 587 ” … ‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw”.
Resolution 592: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops”.
Resolution 605: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
Resolution 607: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 608: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians”.
Resolution 636: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 641: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 672: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for “violence against Palestinians” at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
Resolution 673: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
Resolution 681: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 694: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
Resolution 726: ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 799: “. . . ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
Resolution 1559 (2 September 2004) called upon Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband.
Resolution 1583 (28 January 2005) calls on Lebanon to assert full control over its border with Israel. It also states that “the Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for the purpose of confirming Israel’s withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425.
Resolution 1648 (21 December 2005) renewed the mandate of United Nations Disengagement Observer Force until 30 June 2006.
Resolution 1701 (11 August 2006) called for the full cessation of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah.
Resolution 1860 (9 January 2009) called for the full cessation of war between Israel and Hamas.
Is that too short for us all?, unless one is myopic.
Mr Liew,
Halow aaa Mr Liew, for your goodsake…y dont u read & study Judaism scripture: the tanakh, Christianity book of the gospel, the bible and the muslim’s: Quran. Make your comparison and think. See what happen.
the-servant
To Liew,
Actually I am expecting our
Tun…
1.What is your opinion regarding economy crisis and gaza crisis.
2.Did you think both of this crisis come from jewish propaganda?
What in my mind right now is Economy crisis that happened right now are absolutely Israel propaganda. They attack on America economy so that they have a valid reason to attack Gaza and American will give a green light for that. Here why…
1. When America economy down they need immediate source of income.
2. Selling a millitary weapon/bomb/missiles etc will give them immediate return since others industry has down.
3. Israel is one of the country that buy a weapon/armament from america in large scale.
4. If just buying without using it then it useless.
5. So that attacking Gaza is the answer.
6. American get profit from it, then nothing to care about Gaza.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Hello people, what’s wrong with history? History teaches us to trace back to the roots of existence or happenings. When, why, how, who …these are the questions to be asked to find the answers and the truths. From these answers to the questions then we come to understand the root cause of the whens, the whys, the hows. and the whos. That is why history is very very important. It is essential to analyse historical events from reliable sources to understand the wisdom and lessons that will enrich our lives and and are applicable to us today.
Even if the event occurred yesterday then that’s history too, isn’t it. You want to know when you got that bump on your stupid head so you trace it back to when it happened, and that’s history.
Whenever Muslims donate or do a good deed we don’t arrogantly announced it to the whole world. Its the way of Islam.
Why should we have to be afraid of the powerful and afraid of the consequences if we display our displeasure at them. They are not god and we don’t leave our brothers and sisters facing oppressions alone. Its the way of Islam. We feared nothing and no one except Allah.
So to By Liew and the likes of you, don’t belittle those who want to open your heart and mind to see a bigger perspective in live through and by learning history.
When Prophet Muhammad (saw) sends Ali bin Abi Talib to Yemen to invite them to Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (saw) told Ali: “When you meet them do not fight them until you invite them to Islam. If they refuse, do not fight until they begin fighting you first. If they fight you, do not fight unless they kill one among you, then show them the one killed and ask them: ‘Is there not a better way than killing?, for if Allah guides one person through you, it is better for you than what the sun has risen over or set over”.
We learn from the advice of Prophet Muhammad (saw) to his deputies that Islam does not want war and tries to avoid bloodshed. Fighting is the last resort when all avenues have failed.
The event above was during the times of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). His life history is called the Seerah and we learn from the character and example of Prophet Muhammad (saw) lessons that help us to understand and apply in our lives.
Tun, please take care and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
Dear Mr Non-Jebaok,
can i have ur email adress….i want to know about the ancient history of the famous kingdoms.
the-servant
dear mr liew,
actally haa….what u saying about a total masterplan to help the palestinian is silently being done by moslem all over the world….in many ways…a person like just dont understand…and very difficult to understand…so y dont u just keep quiet and read all the histories, because of historical routes make israel kills the palestinians la bro.
dear mr non jeboak,
what u wrote, is very comprehensive…i absaloutely admire it….require loads of reseach and time…..perhaps Hanan dont even bother..coz he’s a jew, they use quran only for reference….and preparation for battle against the moslem…but they do not used Quran as their guidance for their lifeafter…so ye shall burnt in Hell for their sins.
Salamualiakum
Hi To all bloggers, left n right
My comment about alishaifool comment,
1. So, he does pledge loyalty, simply that he doesn’t? You never found out…
-I expect “I love Jews ” to say that he is loyal to Malaysia, but action speaks louder Are both of you twin?
2. That’s very nice. Please continue to do so, and not only protect the Jews, but everyone. Clearly, at many places of the world, it is not the case now.
-Can you name the that many places?
3. But there are cases where Christians, e.g., needed to hide in a van to study the Bible, as if it’s a van driven by an “ordinary” Palestinian. There is fear, in other words, to practise other faiths.
-In some western countries Muslims are not allowed to wear scarf,hijab to go to school or office. Legislative branches in some western countries even pass law that seem to discriminate religous practise (Islam). Fear, what do you think about muslims in West Bank
and Gaza, do they have no fear to practise Islam or even being muslims…with all what the Jews did.I can also say there are cases of inter-marriages between Muslims and Christians. So by citing such cases, can I say that there is no fear, the two are happy with each other?
Have you heard a fist-fight broke out between Armenian clergy and a Greek priest in Christianity’s holiest shrine on Palm Sunday.The fight is part of a growing rivalry over religious rights at Jerusalem’s Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built over the site where tradition says Jesus was buried and resurrected. This happens almost every year now! Chistian fight christian…….
It’s the position of the state or authority that count the most. Ordinary people tend to act on their own sometimes.If a counrty
passes a law to discriminate against certain faith then it is worrisome.
4. Absolutely, civilized people don’t murder. The point is, most of the people of Tun’s faith think the other way round, that the Operation Cast Lead, e.g., is an act of murdering of civilians, while on the other hand, the firing of Kassam rockets onto kindergartens are not acts of murder. Why? I don’t have to explain.
– Perhaps you could tell us how many women,children and elderly died in the 22 days or how many kindergartens demolished compare to houses,hospital,school,infrastructure burnt in Gaza. So that I could comdemn, may be most of us here could comdemn Hamas for that death of Children,women and the elderly of Israel!
Hamas does not have all the sophisticated weapon to accurately fire their rocket to Israeli military base, even the sophisticated weapon of Israel claimed more civilian lives of that women, children and the elderly.
You would like us to remember that when we mention Israel attack and kill 1300 palestinian, we also have to mention that 13 Israeli died. When hundreds of houses,school,factories etc destroyed in Gaza, we also have to mention that a house is destroyed in southern Israel. Yes we can, but you can see the numbers yourself.
As a general statement, I comdemn all the killing of women,children and the elderly. The question is why Hamas fire rocket to Israel? I think you know our answer.
5. Good for everyone, nice of you. I do, too, and Israel does, too, and so do a good portion of Palestinians. Israeli did look for the Hamas only; the bombings on the UN school, for instance, is now facing investigation–that it was actually Hamas’s Kassam rockets that landed there. This is not the point I am concerned about, but the point is that, in [i]principle[i], the Operation targeted Hamas and Hamas-related factions only.
Your condemnation, I reckon, also applies to those who operated Kassam rockets landing at kindergartens.
-Despite dropping thousand of leaflets,numerous phone call warning, I believe this is just to protect Israel (not civillian) hersefl from international comdemnation. They try to show that they are complying with the law. In fact, in my opinion, it is not. Looking at the scale and magnitude of their operation, their intention is to destroy and to kill (Hamas?).
Israel immediate response regarding the high human death, is most of them are terrorist. If we told 1000 civillian died, quickly the response would be 700 of them are Hamas members. If they fired UN building, quickly they would say , Hamas fired rocket from there. Without UN/World complaint, Israel won’t bother to investigate.
Recently Isreal plans to introduce law to protect their army from prosecution. The have started to bar newspaper from pulblishing names of armies involve in that operation in Gaza . This is done when they realise that UN/international community intends to bring
war crime charges against what Isreal did in Gaza. So what is the point of having internal Israeli investigation?, their army cannot be found guilty.
Israel should be brought before world court. Investigation must be conducted by independent party. Israel goverment must corporate fully and must not fear, if they do not commit any crime all and act as a self-defence of their people.
Thank you. Peace to the world!
Selamat pagi Tun,
Please allow me as usual……
//By Liew on February 6, 2009 1:51 AM
To non jibaok
Hate and anger will not solve the problem and I think you are someone who does not like to solve problem but prefer to comment only. I am not joking when I wrote that the Palestine have nothing better to do then think about fighting. There are many types of people in the world that are suffering the same problem as the Palestine but they are not mentioned. Why ?
Please give solution and don
Dear Hanan,
Understand your routes before making any comments about the palestines
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Well it seems Mr Hanan has gone on a cooling off period but he promised he’ll be back. But he’s not leaving just like that, he left his firing squad behind to continue the shootings at the targets he has gathered here in Tun’s blog.
We’re not running away.
Tun, Mr Hanan kept saying that we’re bombarding him with anger and emotion.
But I would like to ask him which he prefers to be with, to be amongst the brains with a heart of emotions and feelings, or to be amongst the brains but with no heart, no emotions and no feelings, like a wood or better still a monster.
I wonder how he expect us to react when a child was shot in the head by the Zionist Israel, men and women bombed while waving to their loved ones at the door steps, then bomb!..to just feel nothing at all and respond with blank faces, not even with a face of shock, to be like a robot, is that it?
He said he’s not a monster (maybe he’s not) but I’m afraid he could be one in the making along with the hundreds, thousands or millions like him, unless he sees the truth.
But only Allah knows who is ready to be guided and He will show them His way:
“It is not for you (Prophet) to guide them to the right path, but Allah guides whom He pleases.” Al-Baqarah 2:272
But then Tun he’s right too. Different of opinions will occur among us from time to time and to resolve these differences is by resorting to calm logic, not inflated tempers and emotions. When we hear the truth, we should accept it. It is the mercy of Allah that some believers will be guided by Him and will remain calm and collected when facing difficult situations. Prophet Muhammad (saw) gave the most valuable and succinct advice to a man when he said: “Do not get angry.”
When we are angry, we lose control, make mistakes and rash decisions that we will surely regret later when we have become more rational.
Please allow me to state a passage on our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw)
(extract from a book on the Life of the Prophet Muhammad (saw).
Prophet Muhammad (saw) came to complete Allah’s message to the worlds. He was Allah’s last messenger and the one whom Allah gave His last divine revelation, the Qur’an. Prophet Muhammad (saw) said: “My example and the example of other prophets before me is like a man who built a house and built it well and made it beautiful except for one area in the corner. People came to look and admire the house, but wonder: ‘If only this place was completed.’ I am this piece that is missing and I am the last of the prophets.” (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)
As Muslims we believe in the message that Allah’s prophets brought from their
Lord, and we accept all of Allah’s prophets and believed that they delivered the message to the best of their ability. Allah’s message to their prophets was to guide mankind and to inform them of their duty in serving Allah. There is no contradiction in the continuous divine message, rather the message of one prophet completes and compliments the message of those before him. In contrast, the Jews and the Christians only believe in their own prophets and do not believe in Muhammad (saw) as Allah’s messenger.
The Isra’a and Mi’raj.
The journey from the Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Mecca and Al Masjid Al-Aqsa (the farthest mosque in Al-Quds (Jerusalem) illustrates the bond between all religions. Al-Quds represents the religion of Abraham and his descendants; Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus. Mecca represents the religion of Ismail, the son of Abraham and his descendant, Muhammmad (saw). This journey also ties Palestine with the Muslim Umma (nation) and it illustrates the obligations of the Muslims to defend and protect Al Masjid Al-Aqsa as Allah blessed it. Muslims are to be the guardians and protectors of all religion, and their duty is to establish justice and safeguard the freedom and the liberty of everyone, Muslims and non-Muslim alike.
The journey also confirmed the change that Allah made in shifting the Prophethood from the lineage of Isaac to the lineage of Ismail as represented by Prophet Muhammad (saw). This change occurred because the Jews and the Christians did not fulfill their covenant with Allah. Allah chose Muhammad (saw), an illiterate Arab and He chose Arabia which had not been spoiled by the decadence of Rome and Persia as the site of His last divine revelation.
We, Muslims love our Prophet Muhammad very much but the Qur’an stresses the humane nature of Prophet Muhammad (saw) to ensure that he is not glorified to the point of being worshipped. But, as humans with brains and a heart, we do get emotional when he is humiliated by the unbelievers, even after his death.
Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
Mr Hanan or Hainan Mee,
Let me tell you about the city of Palestinia or Canaan, Actually ha….the land that Zionist claim to be theirs belong to God la….
As Mr Non Jeboak stated….Moses guide you Children of Israel (COI) to Canaan (ie. Palestenia) from Egypt. Then after, with God blessing, Moses persuade the COI to enter the city of Canaan.
but, things has not been smooth as Moses thougt it would be….hmmm…..Then, Moses ask the COI to enter the Holy Land (i.e Canaan), HOWEVER by having slavery experience for many years (thx to Egypt’s Kings)…..
the COI reply saying that; the stregth and guile of the people of Canaan cannot be defeated , and the COI will only enter the city of Canaan only if the people of Canaan move away…
two of Moses most trusted men(Joshua and Caleb)advise the COI to enter the city via the front gate agressively, with the trust and believe of GOD and the victory will be theirs in hand.
but again the COI gave their view that; it is better that Moses himslef with GOD and both Joshua & Caleb to go to war for them while they sat and watch the outcome of it.
how tragic….now, the so called COI claims that Al Haram al Sharif Al Quds and the land of palestenia belong to them?…..the holy city only belong to GOD OF ALL CREATION
Dear Mr Hanan,
Please traceback your history laaaa…..Studied the truth about Islam and if interested my brother, convert to Islam…be a mu’min as Prophet Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob(i.e Israel) was….
the Prophet Muhammad, Jesus, Moses have no personal agenda other than being the servant & the messenger of GOD OF ALL CREATIONS.
Like myslef, i dont want your money, neither required any gifts from anyone if you convert to Islam. I got nothing to lose and nothing to gain. It is just for your good sake. We, the muslim were the ones who practice & continuig the teaching of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad not the Jews nor the Christians.
Dear Mr Hana n Non Jibaok,
Please continue your comments as it is very much intellectually amusing
the_servant
Dear Hanan and all interested readers.
I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced back to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.
Having seen how grateful the then victorious Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I’m beginning to ponder why Mahmud Ahmad Nejad could not offer the same to Hanan and his Jewish community, who have neatly assembled in the Jewish state of Israel.
Or it could be the other way round. The ancestors of Ahmad Nejad had devised a secret seeding plan in wooing the dispersed Jews back to the so-called Jewish homeland.
Adolf Hitler finally committed suicide, when he realised that he had failed to exterminate all the Jews, many more were hiding in different parts of the continents of Europe, Asia and America.
However, the Persian could be smarter than the Nazis. Assemble all the ultra Jews in one place and Ahmed Nejab shall send his neclear war heads to wipe out these deceit race from this world.
Dear Hanan and all interested readers.
I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced back to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.
Having seen how grateful the then victorious Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I’m beginning to ponder why Mahmud Ahmad Nejad could not offer the same to Hanan and his Jewish community, who have neatly assembled in the Jewish state of Israel.
Or it could be the other way round. The ancestors of Ahmad Nejad had devised a secret seeding plan in wooing the dispersed Jews back to the so-called Jewish homeland.
Adolf Hitler finally committed suicide, when he realised that he had failed to exterminate all the Jews, many more were hiding in different parts of the continents of Europe, Asia and America.
However, the Persian could be smarter than the Nazis. Assemble all the ultra Jews in one place and Ahmed Nejab shall send his neclear war heads to wipe out these deceit race from this world.
Dear Hanan and all interested readers.
I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.
Having seen how grateful the victorius Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I’m beginning to ponder why
To non jibaok,
History! History!! You are surely a politician and historian and I admire your effort to dig-out so much info to argue with Hanan. But I think those info have no value or answer to solve the Israel/Palestine conflict. In your long reply to Hanan there is not a single solution but pure history, which cannot be proven as history sometime are fictions too and most time it is written or published according to the writer opinion. (like your current views) We know this for sure as The Malaysian Education System is doing the alteration in our Malaysian/British History. Even in these short years, history of British Colonial days in Malaysia can be change so what do you expect if history (stories) that are hundred or thousand of years old?
It is very hard for human not to take side in any conflict but us Malaysian have to stay focus and not to be seen as pro-Palestine and anti-Jews. If we are categorized as Pro-Palestine, we might be grouped under Pro-terrorist by the international communities then our economy will suffer. Ever wonder why our Ringgit suffer and not been fully truly valued? There are many people in the world that dislike what Israel is doing but they are not so vocal or seen to be Pro-Palestine because they know what is the consequences if you go against the powerful.
If you really so concern about the Palestinians, why not you donate half of your property and money to them or take 20 Palestine war victims into your house. I guess you will not do it as you are only a historian and a politician (talk only no action) But then if you do then you will be blessed with good health and wealth and maybe you will be awarded the Nobel Price for kindness to the Palestinians. I salute you for your history lesson.
Hanan,
U have obviously forgotten the good grace of Muslim rulers and citizens who gave your community protection and freedom to practice both your religion, trade and profession when you were persecuted and even evicted from the lands of tyrannical Christian countries. Perhaps, you should also study your scriptures and reflect on the Covenant. Is it quite possible that your community paid the price for breaking the covenant, not only Moses’s teachings but even after? May I ask you to show me where in your books does it show that Palestine is gifted by God? Since when was God in the real estate business?
May I also ask you to read the scholarly works of your own community who compare life in the middle Ages, both under the Crescent and the Cross. Therein, you will find that your brethren were far better off under the Crescent (Under Crescent & Cross – Mark R. Cohen). You will find how Jewish scholars and thinkers thrived under Muslim rulers including holding the highest office.
Perhaps, you may also reflect on why Medina had so many Jewish tribes and why over the centuries many migrated there. Was it due to your own scholars indicating that the final Prophet would reside there? Go on, read your ancient books and learn!!!
Muslims take much joy that our Prophet appealed to the hearts and minds of everyone. We are happy that some of your finest scholars and learned men and women became Muslims as much as those from other faiths. As a mark of respect, I prefer not to refer my good brethren as Jews. There are too many ill conceived connotations to this word. I prefer to address you as the community of Prophet Moses.
Education without wisdom is much like water and acid. Learned people are not necessarily water but could be acid where wisdom is redundant.
Some years ago, I had the good fortune to meet a PhD graduate from Princeton who was an agnostic. It really does not matter. At the end of the day, if you have a headache, I do not need to take the tablet. During the conversation he opined that unless God is proven, as a scientist, it is difficult to fathom His existence. Of course, God in his infinite wisdom does not need to prove himself. After all, our prayers serve to do good for us not for God. God does not need our prayers. So, I asked him,
to non jibaok:
From your comment I can see that you have some biblical knowledge and that you
Aslmualaikum wbt Tun and all fellow bloggers,
Apa khabar?
to Alishaifool,
1. yes, I am arrogant. I admit that.
2. I am arrogant because i see from the fact and historical perspective of arab-israel conflict is totally because of israeli fault. they took over palestinian land on 1948, and u want two ‘neighbor’ live happily ever after?
3. how come people called both country as neighbor? israel not belong to the middle east. even they themselves claimed that they are european, and why they still want to live in palestine even though they know that hamas and every palestinian will always hate them?
4. as a jew, they have political and economic power. they can buy any land in this world. but why they still want to live beside palestinian and willing to face rocket attacked from hamas and rise of intifadah everyday.Oh, I think they deserved that!
5. u took others’ belonging and u want to be friend with them? is it possible? u tell me
6. i am arrogant and i believe that israel is not real.
7. the only solution is, israeli must get out from palestinian land and move to alaska, texas or madagascar or wherever state that willing to accept them and live happily ever after. (unfortunately, i don’t think any of them will welcome israeli)
8. but, again it is not possible to do so. israeli will stay in palestine and will always be there because they believe that palestine is “promising land” promise by Yahweh and they want to establish a Great Israel..
9. i am arrogant, i’m sorry and again, israel is not real.
The Almighty says, “if the Believer comes to Me walking, I go to him running.”
Daisuke Senzaki
UiTM Shah Alam, Malaysia
I am Malaysian Muslim and proud to be one.
Dearest Hanan,
Read carefully Non Jibaok reply February 6, 2009. Study it objectively. I’m afraid what Non Jibaok said is not available at Zionist censored book or literature. Please do not reply Non Jiabok emotionally, otherwise it will resulted in Jewish look more stupid and stubborn like stone. Jews are not Zionist and Zionist is not only Jewish. Your best friend is your own enemy because your enemy will tell the truth while they’re reacting emotionally. Your Zionist will not tell the truth except their objective. Father of the Jews was Yaqob (Israel) and not Zionist.
Hanan
Hello all,
It took me few hours but I read all the posts and comments made on Hanan
Hello.
You are all talking about who invented what and who used what, and tossing ugly comments such as the one above me: “Quote” : To Hanan & Alon The Butcher…
First off all, please stop calling each other names – It is childish and stupid…
In my opinion, the Jews have allways been persecuted etc because of one simple thing… they did not sit quietly and let other people, countries and religious groups empose their belifs.
What happened at the Gaza war with or without Uranium bullets or what ever, I realy have no idea what happend there because I did not participate in it, is not any of my or any other person or country’s business.
If a country is continuasly bomb for 8 years, and the targets are cevilians then any means is appropriate in order to stop it.
Where were you when bombs fell all the time on Israeli setelments?
Did you condone those bombings?
Did you do anything to stop it?
Did you try to assist in the return of the kidnaped soldier Gilad Shalit?
Does it look reasonable that after all what Israel has done, returning so many prisoners, sending money to Gaza, suppling water and electricity and even an Internet connection to Gaza that the Hamas organization will not let Gilad Shalit to go free?
Does it look reasonable that we, the Israeli people, that has no other place to go to, another country to settle in need to ket go of the only thing we have while there are so many Arab nations that can take the Palestinians and help them to live a normal life in their won country?
Would you – lebaikudin – take a palestinian citizen and take him/her into your house in order to help him/her/them?
I guess not, because all you guys ever do is blame and blame and pitty yourselfs and make others fell like your people only suffer.
Do you think it is a coincidence that Arabs are allways shown and presented as terorists in movies?
It is because that the majority of the terorists are Arabs.
Please pay attantion that I DID NOT WRITE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE ARABS ARE TERORISTS!! they are not.
Some of my best friends at work are Arabs (Christian and Muslims).
I am not a religious man. I belive in myself and in the people who live near me.
Yes, I have to admit that many Israelis are dumb and are full of shit, but so are many people in every country, every city and every street, within every religion, skin color or gender in the world.
Try to take some of the things I wrote into considiration, I wish you would try to think in a different way, at least for a few minutes.
And to the Malezian goverment – do try to let people say what they wish – It will only make everything better for you and them.
Salam
Dear Dr. Mahathir,
Thank you very much for hosting my comments in your blog/s.
Despite we have a deep division of opinions and the gap to bridge is wide, I don’t see you as my enemy. We have fewer issues we can agree upon than disagree. Even so, I have respect to you, at least for two reasons. Firstly, because of your age as you are older than me (even I
To all of you that hate Jews and Zionist –
Martin Luther King was a civil rights activist in the US in early sixties.
He had a dream
To non jibaok
Hate and anger will not solve the problem and I think you are someone who does not like to solve problem but prefer to comment only. I am not joking when I wrote that the Palestine have nothing better to do then think about fighting. There are many types of people in the world that are suffering the same problem as the Palestine but they are not mentioned. Why ?
Please give solution and don
salam to all,
to the last question:
Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousands of years?
maybe because all other god worshipers are affraid of the jews?
or maybe just because we dont lecture to the rest on how to live it looks suspicies?
about the jews being the “best killers”.. i think you forgot your history, jews and arabs lived together in peace until all arab nations decided to attack the jews(israel) and lost.. 3 times..
thats how the “palastines” were created.. refugees from the wars the arabs lost… but the arab nations left them behind to rot!
and trust me, the israeli arabs live far better than most arabs in arabs countries.. they can say and do whatever they want and enjoy the jews prosperety..
but the bottom line is, jews were in israel way befor the islam was even created.. so “land robbers” is’nt so exact…
about the gaza last war.. Israelis are never happy when innocent people die.. we feel bad.. but we will defend our selves.. On the other hand take for example 9.11 you could see all over the word Muslims were so happy about the thousands killed they started celebrating… and I don’t see you all burn Russia flags after they attack in Chechnya or Georgia. Most people just let themselves hate the Jews because they are Jews and not because of what they do..
hope i got through…
Dear comentators,
I read your lines and I can not avoid the feeling of sorrow. how much hate can one have to another? people here are cheering the “brains without Heart” paradigm of his retired excellency. But if a heart serves only to nurish hate maybe brains would be better. I have many palestinian friends who would prefer to have Israel as their services provider, and to live in peace with Jews. Once my palestinian friend had an accident and I was the first one to help him. A couple of months later he was the first to help me when I was in trouble. Be careful of believing only what you see on TV or hear from extremists. The real life on the ground is very different. Israelis and palestinians lived well together befor, and will live well together in the future. The less mutual hate we will see the faster this day will come. less propaganda and more facts, less competitiopn and more respect, less individualism and more of a team. And hopefully when we will help Allah to help us we will see brighter days.
Peace on you all.
Dear friends,
Most of you know the history of the state of Israel but please tell me, who are the Palestinians – what is their history, flag, currency…
Israel rise up on top Palestine? is it?
Is any group of people can demand a land? Maybe the African-Americans in U.S. or Muslims in Europe. Anyway, countries that wanted peace with Israel got it!(aka Egypt, Jordan). Israel is not the problem.
Selam,
I agree with Dr. Mahathir.
My family and i also start our fight against zionist products.
I feel better when my wife, my daughter and i go in market to buy some foodstuff and check all of them (country of origin, i look on boycot list as well) and we tryng to avoid all gods which directly or indirectly give support to Israely regime.
I live in Sandzak region which is a part of the Serbia and in my region living mainly muslim population.
We very good know how looks like when your country fight against your just because you are other religion!
Here some links for BOYCOTT OF ISRAELY PRODUCTS:
http://tr-tr.facebook.com/group.php?gid=40443884613
http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.php#companies
http://www.inminds.com/boycott-brands.html
http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.php
http://boycottisraelnow.com/list.htm
senzakidaisuke, before you burst at other as to how arrogant other is, do you see yourself as an arrogant person? I do…
non jibaok,
1. so are you–in response to “you [Hanan] are so unrelenting and without remorse whatsoever with regard to the current topic at hand.” You are unrelenting and without remorse in response to the, e.g., Kassam rockets firing at kindergartens and slaying of innocent aid workers.
2. “A very sly & sneaky attempt, I
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Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
To Hanan & Alon The Butcher
You haven’t answered my only question:
Why Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousands of years?Is your God that mean or He knows some facts that you’re trying to hide?
Wassalam
salam Tun,
ZIONIST JEWS ARE THE BEST AND GREATEST LAND ROBBERS.
ZIONIST JEWS ARE CHILDREN AND WOMEN KILLERS.
THERE’S NO NEED TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.
JEWS ARE THE MAIN ROOT CAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD TODAY.
Jeng3
Dear Tun and fellow bloggers,
to Hanan, i like ur spirit.
1. unfortunately, we are aware that what are u trying to say here is nothing. u can come out with as many fact as u like. i appreciate it but it will change nothing at the end of the day. u start it, u u better finish it.
2. back to the main issue here, israeli army attacked Gaza and palestinian. they killed innocent people i.e woman, children etc. i still remeber when 911 tragedy in New York, the respond made by Tun Dr. Mahathir – he wants the world to find the root of the matter. why terrorist act like that. (actually i strongly believe that 911 is just another liar story mad by Bush and his proxy to attacked Iraq)
3. till the day i write this post, there is no single weapon of mass destruction found in Iraq.but, what happened to Iraq? justice?
4. zionist took palestinian land and u just want them to wait and see the next chapter of their life and generation?
wake up Hanan!! don’t let stupid fact blind ur eyes.
5. in a nutshell, from what u wrote about civilization that try to wiped out jew before, i can say that u are so ARROGANT!
most of them collpase not because of JEW. pls read ur history book
f.n – i’m not emotional and i believe most of fellow friend here are not emotional. they just want to deliver their opinion and tell the truth. i think the one who is emotional here is u
kepada Tun,
maafkan sy. sy sgt mengagumi kewibawaan Tun. teruskan curahkn idea dan pandangan membina Tun utk kepentingan sejagat. Tun bukan milik Malaysia semata, tp Tun milik seluruh dunia. Teruskan, moga Allah memberkati. Ameen.
perjuangan belum selesai..
assalamualaykum Tun,
Mashallah, Very well said. May Allah reward you.
Dear “I love Jews”
You wrote….,
if part of malaysia is given to jews, i would gladly accept it! I m malaysian by the way! I doubt the texans would kill the jews just because their land is given over to the jews. You are jumping to conclusions here Dr. mahathir. Have you seen how civilised americans are compared to the palestinians, iranians etc etc? The problem is not with the land given to israel..it is because the jews are the enemies of islam! And the true muslims will not rest until jews are destroyed under their feet.
oh ya, how do you explain this?
Palestinian militants detonated a bomb targeting an Israeli army patrol along the Gaza border. And this is just a few days after the truce!!!
Can u trust hamas????
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My comment……
if part of malaysia is given to jews, i would gladly accept it!
-You would better apply for Israeli citizenship.Because we, loyal Malaysian citizen, under normal circumstances are not going to give our land to the Jews!
I m malaysian by the way!
-What’s the point of telling everybody that you are a Malaysian, you seem not to love and pledge your loyalty to this country, willing to give everything to the Jews.Are you worshipping the Jews? ( Are you the student mentored by Hanan?)
I doubt the texans would kill the jews just because their land is given over to the jews.
-I have no doubt about this.Look at the American civil war, do you know what is the causes of the war? The south once declared independence from the Union/federation.Off course not because of the Jews!
You are jumping to conclusions here Dr. mahathir.
-This is not a conclusion my friend, nobody could conclude what Texan is going to respond if Texas were to be given to the Jews.We can always opine/think of what’s gonna happen-not conclude. Only God knows, and I don’t think you knows either. I do believe, Texan is not going to be happy. They may do what Tun says……may be (I dont conclude that way).There are a lot of fighting over land…American fought British, American fought American (civil war)
Have you seen how civilised americans are compared to the palestinians, iranians etc etc?
-I don’t quite understand, how civilised American is.what do you mean?
-Imprison people without trial,in Guantanamo. Justice is only for American citizen not the rest of world citizen?
-Refuse to joint or sign international treaty/agreement that is beneficial to the world but not to the American gov interest
-Torture to extract information, remember water boarding?
-Their rendition exercise
-Attack another country base on lies/wrong info
-Count how many people die because of the American Wars?
-How many people the Palestinian kill?…Compare it with Israel? See the number
-How many war the Iranian fight? How many Jews Iran kill? Tell us my fren? How many Iranian died because of American?
That’s modern civilised American
Let’s look at some old civilised American
-Slavery.
-Segregation, black and white – different school,bus etc.
-racism
After 200 years they just have a half black President.
The problem is not with the land given to israel..it is because the jews are the enemies of islam!
-Just go back before 1948,before Israel was created-can you tell me how muslims treat the Jews? Don’t you know that Muslim were proctecting the Jews in Andalusia, while they were killed in Europe.Do you know that the Quran tells us to believe in Abraham,Moses,David etc a lot of Jewish prophet, read the book my fren. But god want us to be careful with the Jews because they are not truthful, they even killed the prophet God send to them. When Islam conquered Jerusalem or when Islam was at its highest stake, did we exterminate the Jews? If so when Islam held a big empire and a lot of Jews resided within the empire……the muslims ruler could have killed all the Jews? Can you tell me when that happen if the problem is not because of land but religion as you claimed.I strongly believe the problem is because of land. The Palestinians are not all muslim.
And the true muslims will not rest until jews are destroyed under their feet.
-Tell me, when the muslims rule, when we destroy the Jews?
-Palestinian are fighting for their land.
oh ya, how do you explain this?
Palestinian militants detonated a bomb targeting an Israeli army patrol along the Gaza border. And this is just a few days after the truce!!!
Can u trust hamas????
-Is there a truce?. It’s only a unilateral cease-fire declared by both side. There is no agreement sign between the two, Egypt still not successful in brokering a truce.Israel still siege Gaza and continue to bomb Gaza.
-Both side break the cease-fire
-Can you trust the Jews?
I am for peace, I hope one day there will be two states living side by side. One is Israel and another is Palestine. I do want to visit the historical place. But I strongly comdemn the killing of children,babies,woman and elderly. If Hamas fired the rocket, go and look for Hamas not other people. As for you, start applying for Israel citizen……I may go and visit you when the two states were established.
I found it strange and sad for you to justify the killing of civilian by anyway you can think of.
God bless you my friend, everybody will face death, civilised people do not murder children,elderly and woman as you claim how civilised American is. It’s for you to do some soul seraching……What do you want here in this blog…..just support what the Jews did. It’s up to you…………….Peace to the world, that’s my pray!
Hanan,
I am simply appalled at your previous posting (slightly before the last one) where it is very clear that you are so unrelenting and without remorse whatsoever with regard to the current topic at hand. No indication of regret nor sympathy towards the Palestinian civilians who were maimed and murdered in Gaza Strip was ever registered by you so far. Instead, only spite and bitterness towards the Palestinians is evident from your comments.
And now, we can sense an attempt by you to register some tinge of dislike towards the Muslims in general with your inclusion of a particular article extract. A very sly & sneaky attempt, I
Now this is not making any sense when the Holocause deniers couldn’t provide any evidence and answers to how the 6 million jews disappear from the Earth.
sallam Tun dan rakan rakan
izin saya ambil petikan surah Bani Israel dalam alquran.
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1.Masa Gemilang kejahatan untuk Bani Israel ialah 2 kali, kali pertama kegemilangan mereka kami hantar hamba kami yang gagah untuk menghukum mereka dan mereka dikalahkan.
2.kemudian kami bangkitkan mereka semula dan kami berkati dengan harta dan anak-anak moga-moga mereka sedar adan melakukan kebaikan.Tetapi mereka kembali melakukan kejahatan.
3.(kali kedua)Pada puncak KEANGAKUHAN mereka, kami utuskan hamba kami semula untuk menghukum mereka. Mereka akan masuk ke masjid dan akan mengalahkan mereka dan mereka (bani israel) akan kalah selama-lamanya.
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kunci kata utama (key words)ialah puncak KEANGKUHAN mereka. Pada ramalan saya inilah masanya kejatuhan mereka dimana KEANGKUHAN mereka pada tahap yang tertinggi.
Pada kali pertama semasa mereka menguasai ekonomi eropah dan penduduk German terpaksa berhutang dengan ceti-ceti yahudi (sejarah yang di ketahui umum), diutuskan Hitler untuk melaknat kan kaum ini.
Saya bukan seorang penulis tetapi Hanan mencabar maruah kita. Pantang anak melayu dicabar. Biar saya terangkan apa yang akan terjadi kepada mereka. Musuh yahudi bukan islam tetapi diri mereka sendiri dan konco-konco (allies) mereka. Sukar untuk di percayai?…Read on..
Saya pernah berhujah dengan seorang mubaliqh kristian.. yang menyatakan jika Isa tuhan maka kaum yahudi ialah tuhan. so we must worship them. (no offence) Maaf it was hard to belive. Saya kata kan jika saya seorang kritian and a Goyim (gentile) a.k.a non-jewish why should I limit myself to be a man while they are gods. Sudah tentu saya akan dapatkan at all cost organ-organ badan mereka dan darah mereka and to replace my body parts with those “Gods parts”.
Or i can sell “god’s” kidney into the black market at high stake. Perkara ini akan insyallah terjadi suatu hari. Dan pasaran permintaannya bukan orang islam.
Tetapi saya akui..Kaum yahudi di lebihkan dari kaum lain. Dalam Al quran ada dinyatakan “o CHILDREN OF ISRAEL I bless you more than anyone else in the universe”..Kenapa tuhan lebihkan? jawapannya “My wisdom is not to be questioned” kata Allah.
Kata kunci dalam ayat ini ialah CHILDREN OF ISRAEL maknanya keturunan yahudi, Darah yahudi, DNA yahudi. Dan Rahmat tuhan kepada mereka memang ketara dengan kepandaian, kekayaaan dan putarbelit.
Mereka mencipta berbagai-bagai benda terutamanya consumer products, ubat gigi, minuman, kedai kopi, gula gula, dan produk – produk mereka dilebihkan oleh tuhan. Sedangkan orang lain juga mampu mengeluarkan produk-produk yang sama tapi tak mampu bersaing. Untuk itu ramai yang ambil jalan if you cannot beat them join them.
Maka ramailah yang terpaksa submit ke kaum yahudi ini dan jadi boneka tunggu masa untuk diperhambakan. Yang untung orang German kerana sewaktu peperangan WW1 dan WW2 ribuan askar german yang cedera menerima darah dari tabung darah Concentration Camp yahudi. Atas sebab yang tertentu mereka dapat menafaat dari DNA yahudi ini. Apabila perang tamat mereka kebanyakanya bekerja di bengkel dan mendapat inspirasi untuk mencipta peralatan jentera, motosikal kereta, Television dan berbagai-bagai lagi hingga ke anak cucu mereka.
Buktinya sehebat mana pun orang jepun mencipta Toyota tak kan sama dengan BMW. Orang german tahu perkara ini tetapi merasiakan dari dunia. Jadi kenapa talibarut yahudi di asia menghadkan diri mereka jadi orang suruhan, mereka juga ingin bersaing di dunia ini. Rahsia ini akan disedari juga oleh dunia satu hari nanti. Pasaran utama untuk DNA dan organ kaum yang di berkati ini ialah di Hongkong dan Jepun. DNA ini di perlukan oleh industrialis, Banker, film Maker, Pemilik pusat judi dan pengeluar barang konsumer dan lain-lain yang ingin bersaing di pasaran dunia…Read on.
Bila DNA sesuatu keturunan itu ada pasaran dan permintaan tinggi sekuatmanapun senjata yang dicipta takkan mampu melindungi mereka. Di Amerika kaum ini tak kan mampu berjalan tanpa diekori untuk di sembelih. Bayangkan dunia memerlukan darah dan organ anda. Apa yang mampu anda lakukan. Waktu inilah Bani israel akan berbaik semula dengan orang islam dan minta di lindungi…Again!.
Apa bila permintaan DNA semakin tinggi terutamanya dari Cina, sejauh mana mereka lari atau sehulu mana pun mereka berlindung tak ada sesiapa mampu menahan mereka dari di sembelih kecuali tuhan.
Cukuplah setakat ini…kerana apa yang akan berlaku seterusnya lebih mengerunkan.
Saya harap insyallah kemenangan yang bakal terjadi ini dapat menyejukkan hati mereka yang bersimpati dengan rakyat Palestin.
Saya tak minta perkara ini terjadi tetapi mereka (bani israel) yang meminta dan tuhan itu adil.
Dear MKM,
You wrote something that it is very special for you and worthy to be published:
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“Good Day TUN and to all Jews haters,
To Hanan,
Please take your twisted explanation somewhere else.Everybody that reads your comment knows that you really are a retarded moron.Seriuosly you Jews really are bunch of morons.I personally think that you Jews are brought up so violently because when you (Jews) were an infant you were sucking up to a smelly Wild Pig milks.
Long Live Adolf Hitler and long live Hamas Fighters.May you keep continue to fight the Jews and send them to hell.”
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I see God blessed you with many good attributes and habits. From what you have written I can understand that you are a most handsome person, a gentleman, respectful, etc…
But unfortunately God missed out to bless you (or did it intentionally) with a bit more in one of your attributes. Guess what is it?
If you couldn
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Excuse me Tun,
To Hanan,
When you jumped into this bandwagon for sure you’ll be shot from all sides. What do you expect, to be showered with flowers and praises? No my dear Hanan, face the consequences and don’t scorn and get all tense up.
If you want to state your stand, do it in your own words and not
from someone else’s works or words or written articles, and please not from a psycho or a schizophrenic. And also don’t go on a merry-go-round or a long and winding road, just be precise and straight to the point whatever is in your mind.
With all the “presentations” that you’ve sent us, so you assume that we will be subdued and succumb to your “sermons”. Mind you Hanan, you can never suffocate us with your untruths and propagandas. Or are you on a secret mission, Hanan, to pull in as many “friends” as you can?
Well, good for you, Hanan there are who swallow just about anything you fed them.
Wars bring sorrows to everyone and that is why our Tun is on a sacred mission to make war a criminal. If you want to bring peace and end to this conflict forever why don’t you embark on this mission too instead of instigating more hatred towards you.
Don’t submit yourself to being a bad Jew. Be a good Jew. That’s what the Torah teaches you, isn’t it. Follow its true teachings and not be easily influenced by some pathetic fallacies.
Thank you and may you find peace.
Tun, keep on striving for peace in the world. We are behind you all the way. Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
Straight forward- I have seen most of the commentors here, from half a world away, think they are experts not only in the basic facts, but also expert in general history and middle east history. I am sure that most of you think that the Arabian Legends as ‘Ali-Babba and the 40 robbers’, or ‘Aladin’ are pure true history facts…
This may explain your ignorance and fanatic way of thinking. You really want anyone to concider your satnds? -Then go and seek out for the Truth. Search for objective sources, not just those which you like that are fed and funded by cheap propaganda. Lets see you face the actual facts of history even if it is against your fanatic brain-washed beliefs. I am not going to lecture any of you about history facts because for the most of you I may not be considered objective, but at least I Visit, Read and Learn before I dare deny others or put up a stand in public.
And lastly, the most interesting part of this blogg is that it seems more practical to get some level of understanding with my local Arab friends than trying to get any understanding from most of you ignorant commentors. Unfortunately those malay friends who dare study the facts and think for them selves are too intimidated to make up their stand openly, but they keep backing me up in e-mails. (-Please keep it on, I truely admire you guys!)
At this point its better to leave all you fanatic commentors to your own warmth of your hate and incitment which keeps you driving. I am sure that leaving you off will make you happy and free to incite and hate more.
May God bring you the wisdom to think for yourselves and not be fed by others ideas.
All the best,
Never been more proud of my Democratic state of ISRAEL,
Alon.
1933
Jan 30, 1933 – Adolf Hitler is appointed Chancellor of Germany a nation with a Jewish population of 566,000.
Feb 22, 1933 – 40,000 SA and SS men are sworn in as auxiliary police.
Feb 27, 1933 – Nazis burn Reichstag building to create crisis atmosphere.
Feb 28, 1933 – Emergency powers granted to Hitler as a result of the Reichstag fire.
March 22, 1933 – Nazis open Dachau concentration camp near Munich, to be followed by Buchenwald near Weimar in central Germany, Sachsenhausen near Berlin in northern Germany, and Ravensbrück for women.
March 24, 1933 – German Parliament passes Enabling Act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.
See also – The Rise of Hitler – from Unknown to Dictator of Germany
April 1, 1933 – Nazis stage boycott of Jewish shops and businesses.
April 11, 1933 – Nazis issue a decree defining a non-Aryan as “anyone descended from non-Aryan, especially Jewish, parents or grandparents. One parent or grandparent classifies the descendant as non-Aryan…especially if one parent or grandparent was of the Jewish faith.”
April 26, 1933 РThe Gestapo is born, created by Hermann G̦ring in the German state of Prussia.
May 10, 1933 – Burning of books in Berlin and throughout Germany.
July 14, 1933 – Nazi Party is declared the only legal party in Germany; Also, Nazis pass Law to strip Jewish immigrants from Poland of their German citizenship.
In July – Nazis pass law allowing for forced sterilization of those found by a Hereditary Health Court to have genetic defects.
In Sept – Nazis establish Reich Chamber of Culture, then exclude Jews from the Arts.
Sept 29, 1933 – Nazis prohibit Jews from owning land.
Oct 4, 1933 – Jews are prohibited from being newspaper editors.
Nov 24, 1933 – Nazis pass a Law against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals, which allows beggars, the homeless, alcoholics and the unemployed to be sent to concentration camps.
1934
Jan 24, 1934 – Jews are banned from the German Labor Front.
May 17, 1934 – Jews not allowed national health insurance.
June 30, 1934 РThe Night of Long Knives occurs as Hitler, G̦ring and Himmler conduct a purge of the SA (storm trooper) leadership.
July 20, 1934 – The SS (Schutzstaffel) is made an independent organization from the SA.
July 22, 1934 – Jews are prohibited from getting legal qualifications.
Aug 2, 1934 – German President von Hindenburg dies. Hitler becomes Führer.
Aug 19, 1934 – Hitler receives a 90 percent ‘Yes’ vote from German voters approving his new powers.
1935
May 21, 1935 – Nazis ban Jews from serving in the military.
June 26, 1935 – Nazis pass law allowing forced abortions on women to prevent them from passing on hereditary diseases.
Aug 6, 1935 – Nazis force Jewish performers/artists to join Jewish Cultural Unions.
Sept 15, 1935 – Nuremberg Race Laws against Jews decreed.
1936
Feb 10, 1936 – The German Gestapo is placed above the law.
In March – SS Deathshead division is established to guard concentration camps.
March 7, 1936 – Nazis occupy the Rhineland.
June 17, 1936 – Heinrich Himmler is appointed chief of the German Police.
Aug 1, 1936 – Olympic games begin in Berlin. Hitler and top Nazis seek to gain legitimacy through favorable public opinion from foreign visitors and thus temporarily refrain from actions against Jews.
In Aug – Nazis set up an Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortions (by healthy women).
1937
In Jan – Jews are banned from many professional occupations including teaching Germans, and from being accountants or dentists. They are also denied tax reductions and child allowances.
Nov 8, 1937 – ‘Eternal Jew’ travelling exhibition opens in Munich.
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March 12/13, 1938 – Nazi troops enter Austria, which has a population of 200,000 Jews, mainly living in Vienna. Hitler announces Anschluss (union) with Austria.
In March – After the Anschluss, the SS is placed in charge of Jewish affairs in Austria with Adolf Eichmann establishing an Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna. Himmler then establishes Mauthausen concentration camp near Linz.
April 22, 1938 – Nazis prohibit Aryan ‘front-ownership’ of Jewish businesses.
April 26, 1938 – Nazis order Jews to register wealth and property.
June 14, 1938 – Nazis order Jewish owned businesses to register.
In July – At Evian, France, the U.S. convenes a League of Nations conference with delegates from 32 countries to consider helping Jews fleeing Hitler, but results in inaction as no country will accept them.
July 6, 1938 – Nazis prohibited Jews from trading and providing a variety of specified commercial services.
July 23, 1938 – Nazis order Jews over age 15 to apply for identity cards from the police, to be shown on demand to any police officer.
July 25, 1938 – Jewish doctors prohibited by law from practicing medicine.
Aug 11, 1938 – Nazis destroy the synagogue in Nuremberg.
Aug 17, 1938 – Nazis require Jewish women to add Sarah and men to add Israel to their names on all legal documents including passports.
Sept 27, 1938 – Jews are prohibited from all legal practices.
Oct 5, 1938 – Law requires Jewish passports to be stamped with a large red “J.”
Oct 15, 1938 – Nazi troops occupy the Sudetenland.
Oct 28, 1938 – Nazis arrest 17,000 Jews of Polish nationality living in Germany, then expel them back to Poland which refuses them entry, leaving them in ‘no-man’s land’ near the Polish border for several months.
Nov 7, 1938 – Ernst vom Rath, third secretary in the German Embassy in Paris, is shot and mortally wounded by Herschel Grynszpan, the 17 year old son of one of the deported Polish Jews. Rath dies on November 9, precipitating Kristallnacht.
Nov 9/10 – Kristallnacht – The Night of Broken Glass.
Nov 12, 1938 – Nazis fine Jews one billion marks for damages related to Kristallnacht.
Nov 15, 1938 – Jewish pupils are expelled from all non-Jewish German schools.
Dec 3, 1938 – Law for compulsory Aryanization of all Jewish businesses.
Dec 14, 1938 – Hermann Göring takes charge of resolving the “Jewish Question.”
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Jan 24, 1939 РSS leader Reinhard Heydrich is ordered by G̦ring to speed up emigration of Jews.
Jan 30, 1939 – Hitler threatens Jews during Reichstag speech.
Feb 21, 1939 – Nazis force Jews to hand over all gold and silver items.
March 15/16 – Nazi troops seize Czechoslovakia (Jewish pop. 350,000).
April 19, 1939 – Slovakia passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.
April 30, 1939 – Jews lose rights as tenants and are relocated into Jewish houses.
In May – The St. Louis, a ship crowded with 930 Jewish refugees, is turned away by Cuba, the United States and other countries and returns to Europe.
July 4, 1939 – German Jews denied the right to hold government jobs.
July 21, 1939 – Adolf Eichmann is appointed director of the Prague Office of Jewish Emigration.
Sept 1, 1939 – Nazis invade Poland (Jewish pop. 3.35 million, the largest in Europe). Beginning of SS activity in Poland.
See also – World War Two in Europe Timeline
Sept 1, 1939 – Jews in Germany are forbidden to be outdoors after 8 p.m. in winter and 9 p.m. in summer.
Sept 3, 1939 – England and France declare war on Germany.
Sept 4, 1939 – Warsaw is cut off by the German Army.
Sept 17, 1939 – Soviet troops invade eastern Poland.
Sept 21, 1939 – Heydrich issues instructions to SS Einsatzgruppen (special action squads) in Poland regarding treatment of Jews, stating they are to be gathered into ghettos near railroads for the future “final goal.” He also orders a census and the establishment of Jewish administrative councils within the ghettos to implement Nazi policies and decrees.
Sept 23, 1939 – German Jews are forbidden to own wireless (radio) sets.
Sept 27, 1939 – Warsaw surrenders; Heydrich becomes leader of RSHA.
Sept 29, 1939 – Nazis and Soviets divide up Poland. Over two million Jews reside in Nazi controlled areas, leaving 1.3 million in the Soviet area.
In Sept – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “The Jewish people ought to be exterminated root and branch. Then the plague of pests would have disappeared in Poland at one stroke.”
In Oct – Nazis begin euthanasia on sick and disabled in Germany.
Oct 6, 1939 – Proclamation by Hitler on the isolation of Jews.
Oct 12, 1939 – Evacuation of Jews from Vienna.
Oct 12, 1939 – Hans Frank appointed Nazi Gauleiter (governor) of Poland.
Oct 26, 1939 – Forced labor decree issued for Polish Jews aged 14 to 60.
Nov 23, 1939 – Yellow stars required to be worn by Polish Jews over age 10.
In Dec – Adolf Eichmann takes over section IV B4 of the Gestapo dealing solely with Jewish affairs and evacuations.
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Jan 25, 1940 – Nazis choose the town of Oswiecim (Auschwitz) in Poland near Krakow as site of new concentration camp.
In Jan – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “…The time is near when a machine will go into motion which is going to prepare a grave for the world’s criminal – Judah – from which there will be no resurrection.”
Feb 12, 1940 – First deportation of German Jews into occupied Poland.
April 9, 1940 – Nazis invade Denmark (Jewish pop. 8,000) and Norway (Jewish pop. 2,000).
April 30, 1940 – The Lodz Ghetto in occupied Poland is sealed off from the outside world with 230,000 Jews locked inside.
May 1, 1940 РRudolf H̦ss is chosen to be kommandant of Auschwitz.
May 10, 1940 – Nazis invade France (Jewish pop. 350,000), Belgium (Jewish pop. 65,000), Holland (Jewish pop. 140,000), and Luxembourg (Jewish pop. 3,500).
June 14, 1940 – Paris is occupied by the Nazis.
June 22, 1940 – France signs an armistice with Hitler.
In July – Eichmann’s Madagascar Plan presented, proposing to deport all European Jews to the island of Madagascar, off the coast of east Africa.
July 17, 1940 – The first anti-Jewish measures are taken in Vichy France.
Aug 8, 1940 – Romania introduces anti-Jewish measures restricting education and employment, then later begins “Romanianization” of Jewish businesses.
Sept 27, 1940 – Tripartite (Axis) Pact signed by Germany, Italy and Japan.
Oct 3, 1940 – Vichy France passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.
Oct 7, 1940 – Nazis invade Romania (Jewish pop. 34,000).
Oct 22, 1940 – Deportation of 29,000 German Jews from Baden, the Saar, and Alsace-Lorraine into Vichy France.
In Nov – Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia become Nazi Allies.
In Nov – The Krakow Ghetto is sealed off containing 70,000 Jews.
Nov 15, 1940 – The Warsaw Ghetto, containing over 400,000 Jews, is sealed off.
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In 1941 – Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states, “I ask nothing of the Jews except that they should disappear.”
In Jan – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “Now judgment has begun and it will reach its conclusion only when knowledge of the Jews has been erased from the earth.”
In Jan – A pogrom in Romania results in over 2,000 Jews killed.
Feb 22, 1941 – 430 Jewish hostages are deported from Amsterdam after a Dutch Nazi is killed by Jews.
In March – Hitler’s Commissar Order authorizes execution of anyone suspected of being a Communist official in territories about to be seized from the Soviets.
March 1, 1941 РHimmler makes his first visit to Auschwitz, during which he orders Kommandant H̦ss to begin massive expansion, including a new compound to be built at nearby Birkenau that can hold 100,000 prisoners.
March 2, 1941 – Nazis occupy Bulgaria (Jewish pop. 50,000).
March 7, 1941 – German Jews ordered into forced labor.
March 26, 1941 – The German Army High Command gives approval to RSHA and Heydrich on the tasks of SS murder squads (Einsatzgruppen) in occupied Poland.
March 29, 1941 – A ‘Commissariat’ for Jewish Affairs is set up in Vichy France.
April 6, 1941 – Nazis invade Yugoslavia (Jewish pop. 75,000) and Greece (Jewish pop. 77,000).
May 14, 1941 – 3,600 Jews arrested in Paris.
May 16, 1941 – French Marshal Petain issues a radio broadcast approving collaboration with Hitler.
June 22, 1941 – Nazis invade the Soviet Union (Jewish pop. 3 million).
June 29/30 – Romanian troops conduct a pogrom against Jews in the town of Jassy, killing 10,000.
Summer – Himmler summons Auschwitz Kommandant Höss to Berlin and tells him, “The Führer has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We, the SS, have to carry out this order…I have therefore chosen Auschwitz for this purpose.”
In July – As the German Army advances, SS Einsatzgruppen follow along and conduct mass murder of Jews in seized lands.
In July – Ghettos established at Kovno, Minsk, Vitebsk and Zhitomer. Also in July, the government of Vichy France seizes Jewish owned property.
July 17, 1941 – Nazi racial ‘philosopher’ Alfred Rosenberg is appointed Reich Minister for the Eastern Occupied Territories to administer territories seized from the Soviet Union.
July 21, 1941 – In occupied Poland near Lublin, Majdanek concentration camp becomes operational.
July 25/26 – 3,800 Jews killed during a pogrom by Lithuanians in Kovno.
July 31, 1941 РG̦ring instructs Heydrich to prepare for Final Solution.
In Aug – Jews in Romania forced into Transnistria. By December, 70,000 perish.
In Aug – Ghettos established at Bialystok and Lvov.
Aug 26, 1941 – The Hungarian Army rounds up 18,000 Jews at Kamenets-Podolsk.
Sept 3, 1941 – The first test use of Zyklon-B gas at Auschwitz.
Sept 1, 1941 – German Jews ordered to wear yellow stars.
Sept 6, 1941 – The Vilna Ghetto is established containing 40,000 Jews.
Sept 17, 1941 – Beginning of general deportation of German Jews.
Sept 19, 1941 – Nazis take Kiev.
Sept 27/28 – 23,000 Jews killed at Kamenets-Podolsk, in the Ukraine.
Sept 29/30 – SS Einsatzgruppen murder 33,771 Jews at Babi Yar near Kiev.
In Oct – 35,000 Jews from Odessa shot.
Oct 2, 1941 – Beginning of the German Army drive on Moscow.
Oct 23, 1941 – Nazis forbid emigration of Jews from the Reich.
In Nov – SS Einsatzgruppe B reports a tally of 45,476 Jews killed.
Nov 24, 1941 – Theresienstadt Ghetto is established near Prague, Czechoslovakia. The Nazis will use it as a model ghetto for propaganda purposes.
Nov 30, 1941 – Near Riga, a mass shooting of Latvian and German Jews.
Dec 7, 1941 – Japanese attack United States at Pearl Harbor. The next day the U.S. and Britain declare war on Japan.
Dec 8, 1941 – In occupied Poland, near Lodz, Chelmno extermination camp becomes operational. Jews taken there are placed in mobile gas vans and driven to a burial place while carbon monoxide from the engine exhaust is fed into the sealed rear compartment, killing them. The first gassing victims include 5,000 Gypsies who had been deported from the Reich to Lodz.
Dec 11, 1941 – Hitler declares war on the United States. Roosevelt then declares war on Germany saying, “Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization.” The U.S.A. then enters the war in Europe and will concentrate nearly 90 percent of its military resources to defeat Hitler.
Dec 12, 1941 – The ship “Struma” leaves Romania for Palestine carrying 769 Jews but is later denied permission by British authorities to allow the passengers to disembark. In Feb. 1942, it sails back into the Black Sea where it is intercepted by a Soviet submarine and sunk as an “enemy target.”
Dec 16, 1941 – During a cabinet meeting, Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states – “Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourselves of all feeling of pity. We must annihilate the Jews wherever we find them and wherever it is possible in order to maintain there the structure of the Reich as a whole…”
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In Jan – Mass killings of Jews using Zyklon-B begin at Auschwitz-Birkenau in Bunker I (the red farmhouse) in Birkenau with the bodies being buried in mass graves in a nearby meadow.
Jan 20, 1942 – Wannsee Conference to coordinate the “Final Solution.”
Jan 31, 1942 – SS Einsatzgruppe A reports a tally of 229,052 Jews killed.
In March – In occupied Poland, Belzec extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with permanent gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.
March 17, 1942 – The deportation of Jews from Lublin to Belzec.
March 24, 1942 – The start of deportation of Slovak Jews to Auschwitz.
March 27, 1942 – The start of deportation of French Jews to Auschwitz.
March 28, 1942 – Fritz Sauckel named Chief of Manpower to expedite recruitment of slave labor.
March 30, 1942 – First trainloads of Jews from Paris arrive at Auschwitz.
In April – First transports of Jews arrive at Majdanek.
April 20, 1942 – German Jews are banned from using public transportation.
In May – In occupied Poland, Sobibor extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with three gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.
May 18, 1942 – The New York Times reports on an inside page that Nazis have machine-gunned over 100,000 Jews in the Baltic states, 100,000 in Poland and twice as many in western Russia.
May 27, 1942 – SS leader Heydrich is mortally wounded by Czech Underground agents.
In June – Gas vans used in Riga.
June 1, 1942 – Jews in France, Holland, Belgium, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania ordered to wear yellow stars.
June 4, 1942 – Heydrich dies of his wounds.
June 5, 1942 – SS report 97,000 persons have been “processed” in mobile gas vans.
June 10, 1942 – Nazis liquidate Lidice in retaliation for Heydrich’s death.
June 11, 1942 – Eichmann meets with representatives from France, Belgium and Holland to coordinate deportation plans for Jews.
June 30, 1942 – At Auschwitz, a second gas chamber, Bunker II (the white farmhouse), is made operational at Birkenau due to the number of Jews arriving.
June 30 and July 2 – The New York Times reports via the London Daily Telegraph that over 1,000,000 Jews have already been killed by Nazis.
Summer – Swiss representatives of the World Jewish Congress receive information from a German industrialist regarding the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews. They then pass the information on to London and Washington.
July 2, 1942 – Jews from Berlin sent to Theresienstadt.
July 7, 1942 – Himmler grants permission for sterilization experiments at Auschwitz.
July 14, 1942 – Beginning of deportation of Dutch Jews to Auschwitz.
July 16/17 – 12,887 Jews of Paris are rounded up and sent to Drancy Internment Camp located outside the city. A total of approximately 74,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, will eventually be transported from Drancy to Auschwitz, Majdanek and Sobibor.
July 17/18 РHimmler visits Auschwitz-Birkenau for two days, inspecting all ongoing construction and expansion, then observes the extermination process from start to finish as two trainloads of Jews arrive from Holland. Kommandant H̦ss is then promoted. Construction includes four large gas chamber/crematories.
July 19, 1942 – Himmler orders Operation Reinhard, mass deportations of Jews in Poland to extermination camps.
July 22, 1942 – Beginning of deportations from the Warsaw Ghetto to the new extermination camp, Treblinka. Also, beginning of the deportation of Belgian Jews to Auschwitz.
July 23, 1942 – Treblinka extermination camp opened in occupied Poland, east of Warsaw. The camp is fitted with two buildings containing 10 gas chambers, each holding 200 persons. Carbon monoxide gas is piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but Zyklon-B will later be substituted. Bodies are burned in open pits.
In Aug – The start of deportations of Croatian Jews to Auschwitz.
Aug 23, 1942 – Beginning of German Army attack on Stalingrad.
Aug 26-28 – 7,000 Jews arrested in unoccupied France.
Sept 9, 1942 – Open pit burning of bodies begins at Auschwitz in place of burial. The decision is made to dig up and burn those already buried, 107,000 corpses, to prevent fouling of ground water.
Sept 18, 1942 – Reduction of food rations for Jews in Germany.
Sept 26, 1942 – SS begins cashing in possessions and valuables of Jews from Auschwitz and Majdanek. German banknotes are sent to the Reichs Bank. Foreign currency, gold, jewels and other valuables are sent to SS Headquarters of the Economic Administration. Watches, clocks and pens are distributed to troops at the front. Clothing is distributed to German families. By Feb. 1943, over 800 boxcars of confiscated goods will have left Auschwitz.
Oct 5, 1942 – Himmler orders all Jews in concentration camps in Germany to be sent to Auschwitz and Majdanek.
Oct 5, 1942 – A German eyewitness observes SS mass murder.
Oct 14, 1942 – Mass killing of Jews from Mizocz Ghetto in the Ukraine.
Oct 22, 1942 – SS put down a revolt at Sachsenhausen by a group of Jews about to be sent to Auschwitz.
Oct 25, 1942 – Deportations of Jews from Norway to Auschwitz begin.
Oct 28, 1942 – The first transport from Theresienstadt arrives at Auschwitz.
In Nov – The mass killing of 170,000 Jews in the area of Bialystok.
Dec 10, 1942 – The first transport of Jews from Germany arrives at Auschwitz.
In Dec – Exterminations at Belzec cease after an estimated 600,000 Jews have been murdered. The camp is then dismantled, plowed over and planted.
Dec 17, 1942 – British Foreign Secretary Eden tells the British House of Commons the Nazis are “now carrying into effect Hitler’s oft repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people of Europe.” U.S. declares those crimes will be avenged.
Dec 28, 1942 – Sterilization experiments on women at Birkenau begin.
Map of Concentration/Death Camps
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In 1943 – The number of Jews killed by SS Einsatzgruppen passes one million. Nazis then use special units of slave laborers to dig up and burn the bodies to remove all traces.
Jan 18, 1943 – First resistance by Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Jan 29, 1943 – Nazis order all Gypsies arrested and sent to extermination camps.
Jan 30, 1943 – Ernst Kaltenbrunner succeeds Heydrich as head of RSHA.
In Feb – The Romanian government proposes to the Allies the transfer of 70,000 Jews to Palestine, but receives no response from Britain or the U.S.
In Feb – Greek Jews are ordered into ghettos.
Feb 2, 1943 – Germans surrender at Stalingrad in the first big defeat of Hitler’s armies.
Feb 27, 1943 – Jews working in Berlin armaments industry are sent to Auschwitz.
In March – The start of deportations of Jews from Greece to Auschwitz, lasting until August, totaling 49,900 persons.
March 1, 1943 – In New York, American Jews hold a mass rally at Madison Square Garden to pressure the U.S. government into helping the Jews of Europe
March 14, 1943 – The Krakow Ghetto is liquidated.
March 17, 1943 – Bulgaria states opposition to deportation of its Jews.
March 22, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory IV opens at Auschwitz.
March 31, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory II opens at Auschwitz.
April 4, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory V opens at Auschwitz.
April 9, 1943 – Exterminations at Chelmno cease. The camp will be reactivated in the spring of 1944 to liquidate ghettos. In all, Chelmno will total 300,000 deaths.
April 19-30 – The Bermuda Conference occurs as representatives from the U.S. and Britain discuss the problem of refugees from Nazi-occupied countries, but results in inaction concerning the plight of the Jews.
April 19, 1943 – Waffen SS attacks Jewish Resistance in Warsaw Ghetto.
In May – SS Dr. Josef Mengele arrives at Auschwitz.
May 13, 1943 – German and Italian troops in North Africa surrender to Allies.
May 19, 1943 – Nazis declare Berlin to be Judenfrei (cleansed of Jews).
June 11, 1943 – Himmler orders liquidation of all Jewish ghettos in occupied Poland.
June 25, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory III opens at Auschwitz. With its completion, the four new crematories at Auschwitz have a daily capacity of 4,756 bodies.
July 9/10 – Allies land in Sicily.
Aug 2, 1943 – Two hundred Jews escape from Treblinka extermination camp during a revolt. Nazis then hunt them down one by one.
Aug 16, 1943 – The Bialystok Ghetto is liquidated.
In Aug – Exterminations cease at Treblinka, after an estimated 870,000 deaths.
In Sept – The Vilna and Minsk Ghettos are liquidated.
Sept 11, 1943 – Germans occupy Rome, after occupying northern and central Italy, containing in all about 35,000 Jews.
Sept 11, 1943 – Beginning of Jewish family transports from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz.
In Oct – The Danish Underground helps transport 7,220 Danish Jews to safety in Sweden by sea.
Oct 4 – Himmler talks openly about the Final Solution at Posen.
Oct 14, 1943 – Massive escape from Sobibor as Jews and Soviet POWs break out, with 300 making it safely into nearby woods. Of those 300, fifty will survive. Exterminations then cease at Sobibor, after over 250,000 deaths. All traces of the death camp are then removed and trees are planted.
Oct 16, 1943 – Jews in Rome rounded up, with over 1,000 sent to Auschwitz.
In Nov – The Riga Ghetto is liquidated.
In Nov – The U.S. Congress holds hearings regarding the U.S. State Department’s inaction regarding European Jews, despite mounting reports of mass extermination.
Nov 3, 1943 – Nazis carry out Operation Harvest Festival in occupied Poland, killing 42,000 Jews.
Nov 4, 1943 – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “It is actually true that the Jews have, so to speak, disappeared from Europe and that the Jewish ‘Reservoir of the East’ from which the Jewish pestilence has for centuries beset the peoples of Europe has ceased to exist. But the Führer of the German people at the beginning of the war prophesied what has now come to pass.”
Nov 11, 1943 РAuschwitz Kommandant H̦ss is promoted to chief inspector of concentration camps. The new kommandant, Liebehenschel, then divides up the vast Auschwitz complex of over 30 sub-camps into three main sections.
Dec 2, 1943 – The first transport of Jews from Vienna arrives at Auschwitz.
Dec 16, 1943 – The chief surgeon at Auschwitz reports that 106 castration operations have been performed.
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Jan 3, 1944 – Soviet troops reach former Polish border.
Jan 24, 1944 – In response to political pressure to help Jews under Nazi control, Roosevelt creates the War Refugee Board.
Jan 25, 1944 – Diary entry by Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, concerning the fate of 2.5 million Jews originally under his jurisdiction – “At the present time we still have in the General Government perhaps 100,000 Jews.”
In Feb – Eichmann visits Auschwitz.
March 19, 1944 – Nazis occupy Hungary (Jewish pop. 725,000). Eichmann arrives with Gestapo “Special Section Commandos.”
March 24, 1944 – President Roosevelt issues a statement condemning German and Japanese ongoing “crimes against humanity.”
April 5, 1944 – A Jewish inmate, Siegfried Lederer, escapes from Auschwitz-Birkenau and makes it safely to Czechoslovakia. He then warns the Elders of the Council at Theresienstadt about Auschwitz.
April 6, 1944 – Nazis raid a French home for Jewish children.
April 7, 1944 – Two Jewish inmates escape from Auschwitz-Birkenau and make it safely to Czechoslovakia. One of them, Rudolf Vrba, submits a report to the Papal Nuncio in Slovakia which is forwarded to the Vatican, received there in mid June.
April 14, 1944 – First transports of Jews from Athens to Auschwitz, totaling 5,200 persons.
In May – Himmler’s agents secretly propose to the western Allies to trade Jews for trucks, other commodities or money.
May 8, 1944 РRudolf H̦ss returns to Auschwitz, ordered by Himmler to oversee the extermination of Hungarian Jews.
May 15, 1944 – Beginning of deportation of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz.
May 16, 1944 – Jews from Hungary arrive at Auschwitz. Eichmann arrives to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By May 24, an estimated 100,000 have been gassed. Between May 16 and May 31, the SS report collecting 88 pounds of gold and white metal from the teeth of those gassed. By the end of June, 381,661 persons – half of the Jews in Hungary – arrive at Auschwitz.
In June – A Red Cross delegation visits Theresienstadt after the Nazis have carefully prepared the camp and the Jewish inmates, resulting in a favorable report.
June 6, 1944 – D-Day: Allied landings in Normandy.
June 12, 1944 – Rosenberg orders Hay Action the kidnapping of 40,000 Polish children aged ten to fourteen for slave labor in the Reich.
Summer – Auschwitz-Birkenau records its highest-ever daily number of persons gassed and burned at just over 9,000. Six huge pits are used to burn bodies, as the number exceeds the capacity of the crematories.
In July – Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg arrives in Budapest, Hungary, and proceeds to save nearly 33,000 Jews by issuing diplomatic papers and establishing ‘safe houses.’
July 24, 1944 – Soviet troops liberate first concentration camp at Majdanek where over 360,000 had been murdered.
Aug 4, 1944 – Anne Frank and family arrested by Gestapo in Amsterdam, then sent to Auschwitz. Anne and her sister Margot are later sent to Bergen-Belsen where Anne dies of typhus on March 15, 1945.
Aug 6, 1944 – The last Jewish ghetto in Poland, Lodz, is liquidated with 60,000 Jews sent to Auschwitz.
Oct 7, 1944 – A revolt by Sonderkommando (Jewish slave laborers) at Auschwitz-Birkenau results in complete destruction of Crematory IV.
Oct 15, 1944 – Nazis seize control of the Hungarian puppet government, then resume deporting Jews, which had temporarily ceased due to international political pressure to stop Jewish persecutions.
Oct 17, 1944 – Eichmann arrives in Hungary.
Oct 28, 1944 – The last transport of Jews to be gassed, 2,000 from Theresienstadt, arrives at Auschwitz.
Oct 30, 1944 – Last use of gas chambers at Auschwitz.
Nov 8, 1944 – Nazis force 25,000 Jews to walk over 100 miles in rain and snow from Budapest to the Austrian border, followed by a second forced march of 50,000 persons, ending at Mauthausen.
Nov 25, 1944 – Himmler orders the destruction of the crematories at Auschwitz.
Late 1944 – Oskar Schindler saves 1200 Jews by moving them from Plaszow labor camp to his hometown of Brunnlitz.
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In 1945 – As the Allies advance, the Nazis conduct death marches of concentration camp inmates away from outlying areas.
Jan 6, 1945 – Soviets liberate Budapest, freeing over 80,000 Jews.
Jan 14, 1945 – Invasion of eastern Germany by Soviet troops.
Jan 17, 1945 – Liberation of Warsaw by the Soviets.
Jan 18, 1945 – Nazis evacuate 66,000 from Auschwitz.
Jan 27, 1945 – Soviet troops liberate Auschwitz. By this time, an estimated 2,000,000 persons, including 1,500,000 Jews, have been murdered there.
April 4, 1945 – Ohrdruf camp is liberated, later visited by General Eisenhower.
April 10, 1945 – Allies liberate Buchenwald.
April 15, 1945 – Approximately 40,000 prisoners freed at Bergen-Belsen by the British, who report “both inside and outside the huts was a carpet of dead bodies, human excreta, rags and filth.”
April 23, 1945 – Berlin reached by Soviet troops.
April 29, 1945 – U.S. 7th Army liberates Dachau.
April 30, 1945 – Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker.
April 30, 1945 – Americans free 33,000 inmates from concentration camps.
May 2, 1945 – Theresienstadt taken over by the Red Cross.
May 5, 1945 – Mauthausen liberated.
May 7, 1945 – Unconditional German surrender signed by Gen. Jodl at Reims.
May 9, 1945 РHermann G̦ring captured by members of U.S. 7th Army.
May 23, 1945 – SS Reichsführer Himmler commits suicide.
Nov 20, 1945 – Opening of the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal.
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March 11, 1946 – Former Auschwitz Kommandant Höss, posing as a farm worker, is arrested by the British. He testifies at Nuremberg, then is later tried in Warsaw, found guilty and hanged at Auschwitz, April 16, 1947, near Crematory I. “History will mark me as the greatest mass murderer of all time,” Höss writes while in prison, along with his memoirs about Auschwitz.
Oct 16, 1946 – Göring commits suicide two hours before the scheduled execution of the first group of major Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg. During his imprisonment, a (now repentant) Hans Frank states, “A thousand years will pass and the guilt of Germany will not be erased.” Frank and the others are hanged and the bodies are brought to Dachau and burned (the final use of the crematories there) with the ashes then scattered into a river.
Dec 9, 1946 – 23 former SS doctors and scientists go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. Sixteen are found guilty, with 7 being hanged.
1947
Sept 15, 1947 – Twenty one former SS Einsatz leaders go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal in Nuremberg. Fourteen are sentenced to death, with only 4 (the group commanders) actually being executed. The other death sentences are commuted.
1960
May 11, 1960 – Adolf Eichmann is captured in Argentina by Israeli secret service.
1961
April 11 – August 14 – Eichmann on trial in Jerusalem for crimes against the Jewish people, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Found guilty and hanged at Ramleh on May 31, 1962. A fellow Nazi reported Eichmann once said “he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction.”
I wanna burst into laughter reading the comments from many of you.
1. There is someone who says THEY have no mercy at all. This is not unusual and it is prevalent among people of Tun’s faith.
2. There is someone who referred Hanan to your Koran. Why not you, this someone, take a look at what the Jewish holy book and the Bible says about Jews? Those books are written way earlier than your book, but alas, I know what you have to say about them–that they are perverted. Well, evidences show that they were not, but, yeah, those are archaeological evidences that don’t appeal to amateurs. So, “perversion” is still your best verbal weapon.
3. Someone claims that Anti-Semitism is, sort of, intended to mislead people and is a lie. For your knowledge, Islamophobia is. People of your faith can talk bad and condemn others vehemently, but if people not belonging to your faith condemn and talk about you/your faith the way you talk about them you know clearly what will happen. Unity in Malaysian society is crippled by exactly this sort of thing.
4. Just prior to this post it is said that the Jew want the land of Palestine because whoever possesses Jerusalem is the King. This city was built by the Jews before being expelled by the Romans. After that, people of your faith come and built the Al-Aqsa right on top of the mount where Solomon’s Temple stands. It’s fair that Jews would like to return to a place where they have been expelled by outside force. Now, it is more likely that it is you who believes and desires to be the King of the world by seizing Jerusalem and taking into possession.
Don’t be upset that some Malaysian speaks in favor of Israel or equivalently against you who outnumber this small group of people. The firing of rockets into civilian areas, the suicide bombing targeting innocent people, the slaughtering of foreign aid workers, the public declaration that a particular ethnic group is to be wiped off the face of the Earth, etc. simply point to the fact that people of your faith are just killers, just as those who you purport are the (only) perpetrators.
By the way, Tun M, had the Empire of the Rising Sun not did what they were doing in the 1940’s, the atomic bombs wouldn’t have been needed; it would not have been invented in fact. Why put all blames of aggression on America or Zionism?
1933
Jan 30, 1933 – Adolf Hitler is appointed Chancellor of Germany a nation with a Jewish population of 566,000.
Feb 22, 1933 – 40,000 SA and SS men are sworn in as auxiliary police.
Feb 27, 1933 – Nazis burn Reichstag building to create crisis atmosphere.
Feb 28, 1933 – Emergency powers granted to Hitler as a result of the Reichstag fire.
March 22, 1933 – Nazis open Dachau concentration camp near Munich, to be followed by Buchenwald near Weimar in central Germany, Sachsenhausen near Berlin in northern Germany, and Ravensbrück for women.
March 24, 1933 – German Parliament passes Enabling Act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.
See also – The Rise of Hitler – from Unknown to Dictator of Germany
April 1, 1933 – Nazis stage boycott of Jewish shops and businesses.
April 11, 1933 – Nazis issue a decree defining a non-Aryan as “anyone descended from non-Aryan, especially Jewish, parents or grandparents. One parent or grandparent classifies the descendant as non-Aryan…especially if one parent or grandparent was of the Jewish faith.”
April 26, 1933 РThe Gestapo is born, created by Hermann G̦ring in the German state of Prussia.
May 10, 1933 – Burning of books in Berlin and throughout Germany.
July 14, 1933 – Nazi Party is declared the only legal party in Germany; Also, Nazis pass Law to strip Jewish immigrants from Poland of their German citizenship.
In July – Nazis pass law allowing for forced sterilization of those found by a Hereditary Health Court to have genetic defects.
In Sept – Nazis establish Reich Chamber of Culture, then exclude Jews from the Arts.
Sept 29, 1933 – Nazis prohibit Jews from owning land.
Oct 4, 1933 – Jews are prohibited from being newspaper editors.
Nov 24, 1933 – Nazis pass a Law against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals, which allows beggars, the homeless, alcoholics and the unemployed to be sent to concentration camps.
1934
Jan 24, 1934 – Jews are banned from the German Labor Front.
May 17, 1934 – Jews not allowed national health insurance.
June 30, 1934 РThe Night of Long Knives occurs as Hitler, G̦ring and Himmler conduct a purge of the SA (storm trooper) leadership.
July 20, 1934 – The SS (Schutzstaffel) is made an independent organization from the SA.
July 22, 1934 – Jews are prohibited from getting legal qualifications.
Aug 2, 1934 – German President von Hindenburg dies. Hitler becomes Führer.
Aug 19, 1934 – Hitler receives a 90 percent ‘Yes’ vote from German voters approving his new powers.
1935
May 21, 1935 – Nazis ban Jews from serving in the military.
June 26, 1935 – Nazis pass law allowing forced abortions on women to prevent them from passing on hereditary diseases.
Aug 6, 1935 – Nazis force Jewish performers/artists to join Jewish Cultural Unions.
Sept 15, 1935 – Nuremberg Race Laws against Jews decreed.
1936
Feb 10, 1936 – The German Gestapo is placed above the law.
In March – SS Deathshead division is established to guard concentration camps.
March 7, 1936 – Nazis occupy the Rhineland.
June 17, 1936 – Heinrich Himmler is appointed chief of the German Police.
Aug 1, 1936 – Olympic games begin in Berlin. Hitler and top Nazis seek to gain legitimacy through favorable public opinion from foreign visitors and thus temporarily refrain from actions against Jews.
In Aug – Nazis set up an Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortions (by healthy women).
1937
In Jan – Jews are banned from many professional occupations including teaching Germans, and from being accountants or dentists. They are also denied tax reductions and child allowances.
Nov 8, 1937 – ‘Eternal Jew’ travelling exhibition opens in Munich.
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March 12/13, 1938 – Nazi troops enter Austria, which has a population of 200,000 Jews, mainly living in Vienna. Hitler announces Anschluss (union) with Austria.
In March – After the Anschluss, the SS is placed in charge of Jewish affairs in Austria with Adolf Eichmann establishing an Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna. Himmler then establishes Mauthausen concentration camp near Linz.
April 22, 1938 – Nazis prohibit Aryan ‘front-ownership’ of Jewish businesses.
April 26, 1938 – Nazis order Jews to register wealth and property.
June 14, 1938 – Nazis order Jewish owned businesses to register.
In July – At Evian, France, the U.S. convenes a League of Nations conference with delegates from 32 countries to consider helping Jews fleeing Hitler, but results in inaction as no country will accept them.
July 6, 1938 – Nazis prohibited Jews from trading and providing a variety of specified commercial services.
July 23, 1938 – Nazis order Jews over age 15 to apply for identity cards from the police, to be shown on demand to any police officer.
July 25, 1938 – Jewish doctors prohibited by law from practicing medicine.
Aug 11, 1938 – Nazis destroy the synagogue in Nuremberg.
Aug 17, 1938 – Nazis require Jewish women to add Sarah and men to add Israel to their names on all legal documents including passports.
Sept 27, 1938 – Jews are prohibited from all legal practices.
Oct 5, 1938 – Law requires Jewish passports to be stamped with a large red “J.”
Oct 15, 1938 – Nazi troops occupy the Sudetenland.
Oct 28, 1938 – Nazis arrest 17,000 Jews of Polish nationality living in Germany, then expel them back to Poland which refuses them entry, leaving them in ‘no-man’s land’ near the Polish border for several months.
Nov 7, 1938 – Ernst vom Rath, third secretary in the German Embassy in Paris, is shot and mortally wounded by Herschel Grynszpan, the 17 year old son of one of the deported Polish Jews. Rath dies on November 9, precipitating Kristallnacht.
Nov 9/10 – Kristallnacht – The Night of Broken Glass.
Nov 12, 1938 – Nazis fine Jews one billion marks for damages related to Kristallnacht.
Nov 15, 1938 – Jewish pupils are expelled from all non-Jewish German schools.
Dec 3, 1938 – Law for compulsory Aryanization of all Jewish businesses.
Dec 14, 1938 – Hermann Göring takes charge of resolving the “Jewish Question.”
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Jan 24, 1939 РSS leader Reinhard Heydrich is ordered by G̦ring to speed up emigration of Jews.
Jan 30, 1939 – Hitler threatens Jews during Reichstag speech.
Feb 21, 1939 – Nazis force Jews to hand over all gold and silver items.
March 15/16 – Nazi troops seize Czechoslovakia (Jewish pop. 350,000).
April 19, 1939 – Slovakia passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.
April 30, 1939 – Jews lose rights as tenants and are relocated into Jewish houses.
In May – The St. Louis, a ship crowded with 930 Jewish refugees, is turned away by Cuba, the United States and other countries and returns to Europe.
July 4, 1939 – German Jews denied the right to hold government jobs.
July 21, 1939 – Adolf Eichmann is appointed director of the Prague Office of Jewish Emigration.
Sept 1, 1939 – Nazis invade Poland (Jewish pop. 3.35 million, the largest in Europe). Beginning of SS activity in Poland.
See also – World War Two in Europe Timeline
Sept 1, 1939 – Jews in Germany are forbidden to be outdoors after 8 p.m. in winter and 9 p.m. in summer.
Sept 3, 1939 – England and France declare war on Germany.
Sept 4, 1939 – Warsaw is cut off by the German Army.
Sept 17, 1939 – Soviet troops invade eastern Poland.
Sept 21, 1939 – Heydrich issues instructions to SS Einsatzgruppen (special action squads) in Poland regarding treatment of Jews, stating they are to be gathered into ghettos near railroads for the future “final goal.” He also orders a census and the establishment of Jewish administrative councils within the ghettos to implement Nazi policies and decrees.
Sept 23, 1939 – German Jews are forbidden to own wireless (radio) sets.
Sept 27, 1939 – Warsaw surrenders; Heydrich becomes leader of RSHA.
Sept 29, 1939 – Nazis and Soviets divide up Poland. Over two million Jews reside in Nazi controlled areas, leaving 1.3 million in the Soviet area.
In Sept – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “The Jewish people ought to be exterminated root and branch. Then the plague of pests would have disappeared in Poland at one stroke.”
In Oct – Nazis begin euthanasia on sick and disabled in Germany.
Oct 6, 1939 – Proclamation by Hitler on the isolation of Jews.
Oct 12, 1939 – Evacuation of Jews from Vienna.
Oct 12, 1939 – Hans Frank appointed Nazi Gauleiter (governor) of Poland.
Oct 26, 1939 – Forced labor decree issued for Polish Jews aged 14 to 60.
Nov 23, 1939 – Yellow stars required to be worn by Polish Jews over age 10.
In Dec – Adolf Eichmann takes over section IV B4 of the Gestapo dealing solely with Jewish affairs and evacuations.
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Jan 25, 1940 – Nazis choose the town of Oswiecim (Auschwitz) in Poland near Krakow as site of new concentration camp.
In Jan – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “…The time is near when a machine will go into motion which is going to prepare a grave for the world’s criminal – Judah – from which there will be no resurrection.”
Feb 12, 1940 – First deportation of German Jews into occupied Poland.
April 9, 1940 – Nazis invade Denmark (Jewish pop. 8,000) and Norway (Jewish pop. 2,000).
April 30, 1940 – The Lodz Ghetto in occupied Poland is sealed off from the outside world with 230,000 Jews locked inside.
May 1, 1940 РRudolf H̦ss is chosen to be kommandant of Auschwitz.
May 10, 1940 – Nazis invade France (Jewish pop. 350,000), Belgium (Jewish pop. 65,000), Holland (Jewish pop. 140,000), and Luxembourg (Jewish pop. 3,500).
June 14, 1940 – Paris is occupied by the Nazis.
June 22, 1940 – France signs an armistice with Hitler.
In July – Eichmann’s Madagascar Plan presented, proposing to deport all European Jews to the island of Madagascar, off the coast of east Africa.
July 17, 1940 – The first anti-Jewish measures are taken in Vichy France.
Aug 8, 1940 – Romania introduces anti-Jewish measures restricting education and employment, then later begins “Romanianization” of Jewish businesses.
Sept 27, 1940 – Tripartite (Axis) Pact signed by Germany, Italy and Japan.
Oct 3, 1940 – Vichy France passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.
Oct 7, 1940 – Nazis invade Romania (Jewish pop. 34,000).
Oct 22, 1940 – Deportation of 29,000 German Jews from Baden, the Saar, and Alsace-Lorraine into Vichy France.
In Nov – Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia become Nazi Allies.
In Nov – The Krakow Ghetto is sealed off containing 70,000 Jews.
Nov 15, 1940 – The Warsaw Ghetto, containing over 400,000 Jews, is sealed off.
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In 1941 – Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states, “I ask nothing of the Jews except that they should disappear.”
In Jan – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “Now judgment has begun and it will reach its conclusion only when knowledge of the Jews has been erased from the earth.”
In Jan – A pogrom in Romania results in over 2,000 Jews killed.
Feb 22, 1941 – 430 Jewish hostages are deported from Amsterdam after a Dutch Nazi is killed by Jews.
In March – Hitler’s Commissar Order authorizes execution of anyone suspected of being a Communist official in territories about to be seized from the Soviets.
March 1, 1941 РHimmler makes his first visit to Auschwitz, during which he orders Kommandant H̦ss to begin massive expansion, including a new compound to be built at nearby Birkenau that can hold 100,000 prisoners.
March 2, 1941 – Nazis occupy Bulgaria (Jewish pop. 50,000).
March 7, 1941 – German Jews ordered into forced labor.
March 26, 1941 – The German Army High Command gives approval to RSHA and Heydrich on the tasks of SS murder squads (Einsatzgruppen) in occupied Poland.
March 29, 1941 – A ‘Commissariat’ for Jewish Affairs is set up in Vichy France.
April 6, 1941 – Nazis invade Yugoslavia (Jewish pop. 75,000) and Greece (Jewish pop. 77,000).
May 14, 1941 – 3,600 Jews arrested in Paris.
May 16, 1941 – French Marshal Petain issues a radio broadcast approving collaboration with Hitler.
June 22, 1941 – Nazis invade the Soviet Union (Jewish pop. 3 million).
June 29/30 – Romanian troops conduct a pogrom against Jews in the town of Jassy, killing 10,000.
Summer – Himmler summons Auschwitz Kommandant Höss to Berlin and tells him, “The Führer has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We, the SS, have to carry out this order…I have therefore chosen Auschwitz for this purpose.”
In July – As the German Army advances, SS Einsatzgruppen follow along and conduct mass murder of Jews in seized lands.
In July – Ghettos established at Kovno, Minsk, Vitebsk and Zhitomer. Also in July, the government of Vichy France seizes Jewish owned property.
July 17, 1941 – Nazi racial ‘philosopher’ Alfred Rosenberg is appointed Reich Minister for the Eastern Occupied Territories to administer territories seized from the Soviet Union.
July 21, 1941 – In occupied Poland near Lublin, Majdanek concentration camp becomes operational.
July 25/26 – 3,800 Jews killed during a pogrom by Lithuanians in Kovno.
July 31, 1941 РG̦ring instructs Heydrich to prepare for Final Solution.
In Aug – Jews in Romania forced into Transnistria. By December, 70,000 perish.
In Aug – Ghettos established at Bialystok and Lvov.
Aug 26, 1941 – The Hungarian Army rounds up 18,000 Jews at Kamenets-Podolsk.
Sept 3, 1941 – The first test use of Zyklon-B gas at Auschwitz.
Sept 1, 1941 – German Jews ordered to wear yellow stars.
Sept 6, 1941 – The Vilna Ghetto is established containing 40,000 Jews.
Sept 17, 1941 – Beginning of general deportation of German Jews.
Sept 19, 1941 – Nazis take Kiev.
Sept 27/28 – 23,000 Jews killed at Kamenets-Podolsk, in the Ukraine.
Sept 29/30 – SS Einsatzgruppen murder 33,771 Jews at Babi Yar near Kiev.
In Oct – 35,000 Jews from Odessa shot.
Oct 2, 1941 – Beginning of the German Army drive on Moscow.
Oct 23, 1941 – Nazis forbid emigration of Jews from the Reich.
In Nov – SS Einsatzgruppe B reports a tally of 45,476 Jews killed.
Nov 24, 1941 – Theresienstadt Ghetto is established near Prague, Czechoslovakia. The Nazis will use it as a model ghetto for propaganda purposes.
Nov 30, 1941 – Near Riga, a mass shooting of Latvian and German Jews.
Dec 7, 1941 – Japanese attack United States at Pearl Harbor. The next day the U.S. and Britain declare war on Japan.
Dec 8, 1941 – In occupied Poland, near Lodz, Chelmno extermination camp becomes operational. Jews taken there are placed in mobile gas vans and driven to a burial place while carbon monoxide from the engine exhaust is fed into the sealed rear compartment, killing them. The first gassing victims include 5,000 Gypsies who had been deported from the Reich to Lodz.
Dec 11, 1941 – Hitler declares war on the United States. Roosevelt then declares war on Germany saying, “Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization.” The U.S.A. then enters the war in Europe and will concentrate nearly 90 percent of its military resources to defeat Hitler.
Dec 12, 1941 – The ship “Struma” leaves Romania for Palestine carrying 769 Jews but is later denied permission by British authorities to allow the passengers to disembark. In Feb. 1942, it sails back into the Black Sea where it is intercepted by a Soviet submarine and sunk as an “enemy target.”
Dec 16, 1941 – During a cabinet meeting, Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states – “Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourselves of all feeling of pity. We must annihilate the Jews wherever we find them and wherever it is possible in order to maintain there the structure of the Reich as a whole…”
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In Jan – Mass killings of Jews using Zyklon-B begin at Auschwitz-Birkenau in Bunker I (the red farmhouse) in Birkenau with the bodies being buried in mass graves in a nearby meadow.
Jan 20, 1942 – Wannsee Conference to coordinate the “Final Solution.”
Jan 31, 1942 – SS Einsatzgruppe A reports a tally of 229,052 Jews killed.
In March – In occupied Poland, Belzec extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with permanent gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.
March 17, 1942 – The deportation of Jews from Lublin to Belzec.
March 24, 1942 – The start of deportation of Slovak Jews to Auschwitz.
March 27, 1942 – The start of deportation of French Jews to Auschwitz.
March 28, 1942 – Fritz Sauckel named Chief of Manpower to expedite recruitment of slave labor.
March 30, 1942 – First trainloads of Jews from Paris arrive at Auschwitz.
In April – First transports of Jews arrive at Majdanek.
April 20, 1942 – German Jews are banned from using public transportation.
In May – In occupied Poland, Sobibor extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with three gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.
May 18, 1942 – The New York Times reports on an inside page that Nazis have machine-gunned over 100,000 Jews in the Baltic states, 100,000 in Poland and twice as many in western Russia.
May 27, 1942 – SS leader Heydrich is mortally wounded by Czech Underground agents.
In June – Gas vans used in Riga.
June 1, 1942 – Jews in France, Holland, Belgium, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania ordered to wear yellow stars.
June 4, 1942 – Heydrich dies of his wounds.
June 5, 1942 – SS report 97,000 persons have been “processed” in mobile gas vans.
June 10, 1942 – Nazis liquidate Lidice in retaliation for Heydrich’s death.
June 11, 1942 – Eichmann meets with representatives from France, Belgium and Holland to coordinate deportation plans for Jews.
June 30, 1942 – At Auschwitz, a second gas chamber, Bunker II (the white farmhouse), is made operational at Birkenau due to the number of Jews arriving.
June 30 and July 2 – The New York Times reports via the London Daily Telegraph that over 1,000,000 Jews have already been killed by Nazis.
Summer – Swiss representatives of the World Jewish Congress receive information from a German industrialist regarding the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews. They then pass the information on to London and Washington.
July 2, 1942 – Jews from Berlin sent to Theresienstadt.
July 7, 1942 – Himmler grants permission for sterilization experiments at Auschwitz.
July 14, 1942 – Beginning of deportation of Dutch Jews to Auschwitz.
July 16/17 – 12,887 Jews of Paris are rounded up and sent to Drancy Internment Camp located outside the city. A total of approximately 74,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, will eventually be transported from Drancy to Auschwitz, Majdanek and Sobibor.
July 17/18 РHimmler visits Auschwitz-Birkenau for two days, inspecting all ongoing construction and expansion, then observes the extermination process from start to finish as two trainloads of Jews arrive from Holland. Kommandant H̦ss is then promoted. Construction includes four large gas chamber/crematories.
July 19, 1942 – Himmler orders Operation Reinhard, mass deportations of Jews in Poland to extermination camps.
July 22, 1942 – Beginning of deportations from the Warsaw Ghetto to the new extermination camp, Treblinka. Also, beginning of the deportation of Belgian Jews to Auschwitz.
July 23, 1942 – Treblinka extermination camp opened in occupied Poland, east of Warsaw. The camp is fitted with two buildings containing 10 gas chambers, each holding 200 persons. Carbon monoxide gas is piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but Zyklon-B will later be substituted. Bodies are burned in open pits.
In Aug – The start of deportations of Croatian Jews to Auschwitz.
Aug 23, 1942 – Beginning of German Army attack on Stalingrad.
Aug 26-28 – 7,000 Jews arrested in unoccupied France.
Sept 9, 1942 – Open pit burning of bodies begins at Auschwitz in place of burial. The decision is made to dig up and burn those already buried, 107,000 corpses, to prevent fouling of ground water.
Sept 18, 1942 – Reduction of food rations for Jews in Germany.
Sept 26, 1942 – SS begins cashing in possessions and valuables of Jews from Auschwitz and Majdanek. German banknotes are sent to the Reichs Bank. Foreign currency, gold, jewels and other valuables are sent to SS Headquarters of the Economic Administration. Watches, clocks and pens are distributed to troops at the front. Clothing is distributed to German families. By Feb. 1943, over 800 boxcars of confiscated goods will have left Auschwitz.
Oct 5, 1942 – Himmler orders all Jews in concentration camps in Germany to be sent to Auschwitz and Majdanek.
Oct 5, 1942 – A German eyewitness observes SS mass murder.
Oct 14, 1942 – Mass killing of Jews from Mizocz Ghetto in the Ukraine.
Oct 22, 1942 – SS put down a revolt at Sachsenhausen by a group of Jews about to be sent to Auschwitz.
Oct 25, 1942 – Deportations of Jews from Norway to Auschwitz begin.
Oct 28, 1942 – The first transport from Theresienstadt arrives at Auschwitz.
In Nov – The mass killing of 170,000 Jews in the area of Bialystok.
Dec 10, 1942 – The first transport of Jews from Germany arrives at Auschwitz.
In Dec – Exterminations at Belzec cease after an estimated 600,000 Jews have been murdered. The camp is then dismantled, plowed over and planted.
Dec 17, 1942 – British Foreign Secretary Eden tells the British House of Commons the Nazis are “now carrying into effect Hitler’s oft repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people of Europe.” U.S. declares those crimes will be avenged.
Dec 28, 1942 – Sterilization experiments on women at Birkenau begin.
Map of Concentration/Death Camps
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In 1943 – The number of Jews killed by SS Einsatzgruppen passes one million. Nazis then use special units of slave laborers to dig up and burn the bodies to remove all traces.
Jan 18, 1943 – First resistance by Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Jan 29, 1943 – Nazis order all Gypsies arrested and sent to extermination camps.
Jan 30, 1943 – Ernst Kaltenbrunner succeeds Heydrich as head of RSHA.
In Feb – The Romanian government proposes to the Allies the transfer of 70,000 Jews to Palestine, but receives no response from Britain or the U.S.
In Feb – Greek Jews are ordered into ghettos.
Feb 2, 1943 – Germans surrender at Stalingrad in the first big defeat of Hitler’s armies.
Feb 27, 1943 – Jews working in Berlin armaments industry are sent to Auschwitz.
In March – The start of deportations of Jews from Greece to Auschwitz, lasting until August, totaling 49,900 persons.
March 1, 1943 – In New York, American Jews hold a mass rally at Madison Square Garden to pressure the U.S. government into helping the Jews of Europe
March 14, 1943 – The Krakow Ghetto is liquidated.
March 17, 1943 – Bulgaria states opposition to deportation of its Jews.
March 22, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory IV opens at Auschwitz.
March 31, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory II opens at Auschwitz.
April 4, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory V opens at Auschwitz.
April 9, 1943 – Exterminations at Chelmno cease. The camp will be reactivated in the spring of 1944 to liquidate ghettos. In all, Chelmno will total 300,000 deaths.
April 19-30 – The Bermuda Conference occurs as representatives from the U.S. and Britain discuss the problem of refugees from Nazi-occupied countries, but results in inaction concerning the plight of the Jews.
April 19, 1943 – Waffen SS attacks Jewish Resistance in Warsaw Ghetto.
In May – SS Dr. Josef Mengele arrives at Auschwitz.
May 13, 1943 – German and Italian troops in North Africa surrender to Allies.
May 19, 1943 – Nazis declare Berlin to be Judenfrei (cleansed of Jews).
June 11, 1943 – Himmler orders liquidation of all Jewish ghettos in occupied Poland.
June 25, 1943 – Newly built gas chamber/crematory III opens at Auschwitz. With its completion, the four new crematories at Auschwitz have a daily capacity of 4,756 bodies.
July 9/10 – Allies land in Sicily.
Aug 2, 1943 – Two hundred Jews escape from Treblinka extermination camp during a revolt. Nazis then hunt them down one by one.
Aug 16, 1943 – The Bialystok Ghetto is liquidated.
In Aug – Exterminations cease at Treblinka, after an estimated 870,000 deaths.
In Sept – The Vilna and Minsk Ghettos are liquidated.
Sept 11, 1943 – Germans occupy Rome, after occupying northern and central Italy, containing in all about 35,000 Jews.
Sept 11, 1943 – Beginning of Jewish family transports from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz.
In Oct – The Danish Underground helps transport 7,220 Danish Jews to safety in Sweden by sea.
Oct 4 – Himmler talks openly about the Final Solution at Posen.
Oct 14, 1943 – Massive escape from Sobibor as Jews and Soviet POWs break out, with 300 making it safely into nearby woods. Of those 300, fifty will survive. Exterminations then cease at Sobibor, after over 250,000 deaths. All traces of the death camp are then removed and trees are planted.
Oct 16, 1943 – Jews in Rome rounded up, with over 1,000 sent to Auschwitz.
In Nov – The Riga Ghetto is liquidated.
In Nov – The U.S. Congress holds hearings regarding the U.S. State Department’s inaction regarding European Jews, despite mounting reports of mass extermination.
Nov 3, 1943 – Nazis carry out Operation Harvest Festival in occupied Poland, killing 42,000 Jews.
Nov 4, 1943 – Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher – “It is actually true that the Jews have, so to speak, disappeared from Europe and that the Jewish ‘Reservoir of the East’ from which the Jewish pestilence has for centuries beset the peoples of Europe has ceased to exist. But the Führer of the German people at the beginning of the war prophesied what has now come to pass.”
Nov 11, 1943 РAuschwitz Kommandant H̦ss is promoted to chief inspector of concentration camps. The new kommandant, Liebehenschel, then divides up the vast Auschwitz complex of over 30 sub-camps into three main sections.
Dec 2, 1943 – The first transport of Jews from Vienna arrives at Auschwitz.
Dec 16, 1943 – The chief surgeon at Auschwitz reports that 106 castration operations have been performed.
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Jan 3, 1944 – Soviet troops reach former Polish border.
Jan 24, 1944 – In response to political pressure to help Jews under Nazi control, Roosevelt creates the War Refugee Board.
Jan 25, 1944 – Diary entry by Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, concerning the fate of 2.5 million Jews originally under his jurisdiction – “At the present time we still have in the General Government perhaps 100,000 Jews.”
In Feb – Eichmann visits Auschwitz.
March 19, 1944 – Nazis occupy Hungary (Jewish pop. 725,000). Eichmann arrives with Gestapo “Special Section Commandos.”
March 24, 1944 – President Roosevelt issues a statement condemning German and Japanese ongoing “crimes against humanity.”
April 5, 1944 – A Jewish inmate, Siegfried Lederer, escapes from Auschwitz-Birkenau and makes it safely to Czechoslovakia. He then warns the Elders of the Council at Theresienstadt about Auschwitz.
April 6, 1944 – Nazis raid a French home for Jewish children.
April 7, 1944 – Two Jewish inmates escape from Auschwitz-Birkenau and make it safely to Czechoslovakia. One of them, Rudolf Vrba, submits a report to the Papal Nuncio in Slovakia which is forwarded to the Vatican, received there in mid June.
April 14, 1944 – First transports of Jews from Athens to Auschwitz, totaling 5,200 persons.
In May – Himmler’s agents secretly propose to the western Allies to trade Jews for trucks, other commodities or money.
May 8, 1944 РRudolf H̦ss returns to Auschwitz, ordered by Himmler to oversee the extermination of Hungarian Jews.
May 15, 1944 – Beginning of deportation of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz.
May 16, 1944 – Jews from Hungary arrive at Auschwitz. Eichmann arrives to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By May 24, an estimated 100,000 have been gassed. Between May 16 and May 31, the SS report collecting 88 pounds of gold and white metal from the teeth of those gassed. By the end of June, 381,661 persons – half of the Jews in Hungary – arrive at Auschwitz.
In June – A Red Cross delegation visits Theresienstadt after the Nazis have carefully prepared the camp and the Jewish inmates, resulting in a favorable report.
June 6, 1944 – D-Day: Allied landings in Normandy.
June 12, 1944 – Rosenberg orders Hay Action the kidnapping of 40,000 Polish children aged ten to fourteen for slave labor in the Reich.
Summer – Auschwitz-Birkenau records its highest-ever daily number of persons gassed and burned at just over 9,000. Six huge pits are used to burn bodies, as the number exceeds the capacity of the crematories.
In July – Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg arrives in Budapest, Hungary, and proceeds to save nearly 33,000 Jews by issuing diplomatic papers and establishing ‘safe houses.’
July 24, 1944 – Soviet troops liberate first concentration camp at Majdanek where over 360,000 had been murdered.
Aug 4, 1944 – Anne Frank and family arrested by Gestapo in Amsterdam, then sent to Auschwitz. Anne and her sister Margot are later sent to Bergen-Belsen where Anne dies of typhus on March 15, 1945.
Aug 6, 1944 – The last Jewish ghetto in Poland, Lodz, is liquidated with 60,000 Jews sent to Auschwitz.
Oct 7, 1944 – A revolt by Sonderkommando (Jewish slave laborers) at Auschwitz-Birkenau results in complete destruction of Crematory IV.
Oct 15, 1944 – Nazis seize control of the Hungarian puppet government, then resume deporting Jews, which had temporarily ceased due to international political pressure to stop Jewish persecutions.
Oct 17, 1944 – Eichmann arrives in Hungary.
Oct 28, 1944 – The last transport of Jews to be gassed, 2,000 from Theresienstadt, arrives at Auschwitz.
Oct 30, 1944 – Last use of gas chambers at Auschwitz.
Nov 8, 1944 – Nazis force 25,000 Jews to walk over 100 miles in rain and snow from Budapest to the Austrian border, followed by a second forced march of 50,000 persons, ending at Mauthausen.
Nov 25, 1944 – Himmler orders the destruction of the crematories at Auschwitz.
Late 1944 – Oskar Schindler saves 1200 Jews by moving them from Plaszow labor camp to his hometown of Brunnlitz.
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In 1945 – As the Allies advance, the Nazis conduct death marches of concentration camp inmates away from outlying areas.
Jan 6, 1945 – Soviets liberate Budapest, freeing over 80,000 Jews.
Jan 14, 1945 – Invasion of eastern Germany by Soviet troops.
Jan 17, 1945 – Liberation of Warsaw by the Soviets.
Jan 18, 1945 – Nazis evacuate 66,000 from Auschwitz.
Jan 27, 1945 – Soviet troops liberate Auschwitz. By this time, an estimated 2,000,000 persons, including 1,500,000 Jews, have been murdered there.
April 4, 1945 – Ohrdruf camp is liberated, later visited by General Eisenhower.
April 10, 1945 – Allies liberate Buchenwald.
April 15, 1945 – Approximately 40,000 prisoners freed at Bergen-Belsen by the British, who report “both inside and outside the huts was a carpet of dead bodies, human excreta, rags and filth.”
April 23, 1945 – Berlin reached by Soviet troops.
April 29, 1945 – U.S. 7th Army liberates Dachau.
April 30, 1945 – Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker.
April 30, 1945 – Americans free 33,000 inmates from concentration camps.
May 2, 1945 – Theresienstadt taken over by the Red Cross.
May 5, 1945 – Mauthausen liberated.
May 7, 1945 – Unconditional German surrender signed by Gen. Jodl at Reims.
May 9, 1945 РHermann G̦ring captured by members of U.S. 7th Army.
May 23, 1945 – SS Reichsführer Himmler commits suicide.
Nov 20, 1945 – Opening of the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal.
Holocaust Statistics
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March 11, 1946 – Former Auschwitz Kommandant Höss, posing as a farm worker, is arrested by the British. He testifies at Nuremberg, then is later tried in Warsaw, found guilty and hanged at Auschwitz, April 16, 1947, near Crematory I. “History will mark me as the greatest mass murderer of all time,” Höss writes while in prison, along with his memoirs about Auschwitz.
Oct 16, 1946 – Göring commits suicide two hours before the scheduled execution of the first group of major Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg. During his imprisonment, a (now repentant) Hans Frank states, “A thousand years will pass and the guilt of Germany will not be erased.” Frank and the others are hanged and the bodies are brought to Dachau and burned (the final use of the crematories there) with the ashes then scattered into a river.
Dec 9, 1946 – 23 former SS doctors and scientists go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. Sixteen are found guilty, with 7 being hanged.
1947
Sept 15, 1947 – Twenty one former SS Einsatz leaders go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal in Nuremberg. Fourteen are sentenced to death, with only 4 (the group commanders) actually being executed. The other death sentences are commuted.
1960
May 11, 1960 – Adolf Eichmann is captured in Argentina by Israeli secret service.
1961
April 11 – August 14 – Eichmann on trial in Jerusalem for crimes against the Jewish people, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Found guilty and hanged at Ramleh on May 31, 1962. A fellow Nazi reported Eichmann once said “he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction.”
To the most offending bloggers here:
I must admit that Dr. Mahathir is so right about you. He always claims that you should use your brains. But once again you are failing to that. He taught you to think but you are not learning it and still using your anger emotions.
Except cursing jargon which your brain is full of it, you have nothing left for the real logical establishment of facts. People are getting angry when they face the true facts of their opponent and stop thinking but release the steam of emotions.
Your cursing jargon was planned to defeat me here and to banish me out of that blog with humiliation. I
hello all,
the scene in Palestine is the guide and the sign from the Great Mighty Allah.I`m 80`s born after almost 30 plus Israel get the land of Palestine.I realize this issue since 4 or 5 years old,hearing from tv..Berita Dunia by Mr Singh or Farith Ismeth and others.Until now i`m just thinking why not Israel kill the Palestine people using the atomic bomb like USA do to Japan.Maybe using 3 nuclear bomb and Palestenian will dissappear from Palestine and Israel can extend their country and take all the Palestine land.Why this not happen?
Why Zionist Jews want the Palestine? Easy answer…who take the Baitulmuqaddis is KING in the world.That why the aim for Islam Government by Greatest Muhammad is take over the Baitulmuqaddis.Who control the Baitulmuqaddis land is the KING. See the back: Christian through Rome or Byzantyn hold Baitulmuqaddis ( Al Aqsa Mosque) is the KING in the world.After defeat to Umar Al Khattab army – Batrix ( Rome General at Baitulmuqaddis) give the key of Baitulmuqaddis town.After that Islam become most powerful empire from all aspect for a long time. After the Palestine occupied by west power…British has become the KING of the world. When the west power manipulated by Zionist Jews the Jews become KING of the world.
The sign from Allah; Muslims must unity and believe Allah will help as long we came back to TRUE route by Allah.Through 2 BIGGEST guider: Al Quran and Sunnah. Look is simple but the two guider is not utilize by Muslims at all.Allah not give the permission Zionist Jews to take down Palestinian until now.That`s why they still fight until now.They afraid and fear to what they created and introduce to world( rocket and launcher ).Jews Zionist is coward and fear with their shadows.That the factor they always want the world in chaos and horror.They really afraid Iran to built the nuclear reactor.why? Iran want declare war with them? Zionist Jews is like ghost see their selves in the glass of water.
To Hanan in reading.
HOLOCAUST is LYING…and created issue existing by Zionist Jews.
The holocaust is like 10 Zionist died then revenge with kill 1500 Palestinian. The Jews died maybe 200 but the issue become 5000 or 5000000 kill by Nazi.European people has been lying by Zionist Jews almost 70 years.
Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
To Balan,Feb 2
1.You were quoting holy bible to advice Tun & fellow bloggers on humanity issues
2.It’s good knowing that you are trying to be rational an caring
3.I’m not in a position to make comments on your belief and faith
4.But you have forgotten to make a research on how bible of today has evolved through centuries of differing interpretation by church leaders
5.I really hope that you wipe clean your mirror first before judging others’ image in it
6.Nothing personal
Wassalam
salam Tun & fellow bloggers
To Alon fr Israel,Feb 3,
Please refer to my above posting to Hanan.It will make you proud killer and robber.Trust me on this!
Wassalam
salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
Dear Hanan,
A robber (read Jews)was caught beating mercilessly a house owner (Palestinian) who he manage to break into.While the house owner struggling for his dear life and possessions,the robber shouted ‘robber,robber’.Policeman arrived (UN,USA),but instead of apprehending the robber,forcing the house owner to share the loot with the robber!
I hope this story will make you feel proud and elevate your patriotism.Happy killing & robbing!It’s Jews’ way of life!
Wassalam
Salam..
Dear Tun,
Yes, you’re right.
A heartless genius is nothing but a complete MONSTER.Adding to that,words by Tayyib Erdogan ..while facing Peres in the World Economic Forum were so true.His expression changed while commenting on the cold-blooded killings of the helpless children in Gaza…It was akin telling Peres that the ruthless murder done by the Israelis was UNFORGIVEABLE.
Some quotes of his that caught my attention:
”..Peres’s loud volume is one sign of psychological criminality..”
”…what Israel is doing is a BARBARIAN act beyond cruelty..”
”..those who clap for the murder here is another humanitarian crime..”
At times, words can be such a great weapon. You and Mr.Erdogan have proved it..
Dear non jibaok,
I have been reading Tun’s blog for sometime and he is sharp in explaining things. His experiences in live and his contribution to all Malaysians and to the whole wide world easily surpasses many or almost all of the commentors here. May he experience the peace amd immense joy all the days of his life together with his wife and whole family.
non jibaok,
In your writings, I “smell a strong odour” of disgust that you’re experiencing. You have a very inclined and a very judgemental mind..just as I am judgemental about you.
Everyone “plays” this judging game and to the player – he’ll say “I am sure, I know without a spec of doubt” but without any concrete evidence to support his claim.
The issue here is a sad one. Palestine !
What is your solution?
What can we do?
What must we do? Let’s think rather than talk….
One author wrote in his book. “The problem that infuriates you the most is the problem that God has assigned you to solve. Do something about it or Shut-up about it”
Everyone is judging everybody and I too judge and am convinced that the “culprit” is religion – Very obviously.
One man’s meat is another man’s poison. What respect does one have for another’s religion. Unless he is afraid of the dire consequences he/she may have to face from the believers of the other faith or the fear of the consequences he may face from the unknown forces for having questioned (ridiculed) the other religion.
It’s embedded within. THE LOVE FOR THE RELIGION is the culprit.
Some live by the written law and religiously force themselves to practice it even to the extent of hate. There is no God in that religion but fear – just plain actions and repurcussions.
There are some who live above the written law and connect it to God – suiting the times and conveniently claim championshiop.
Whom am I speaking about? Is it the Hindus, the Taoist, the Sikhs, the Christians, the Buddhist, the Muslims, the Judaist … W H O ??
It’s not about religion, It’s about who we are.
Who we truly are? What do you do when no one is watching?
Is that how you will behave if God is walking and talking with you?
By throwing ridicule and hate… backbiting and scandalizing…There’ll be non-stop violence.
You can check out this episode from the internet: When someone asked Sir Albert Einstein what he thought of the third world war, he replied….” I don’t know about the 3rd world war but I know the 4th world war would be fought with sticks and stones”.
No one in this world is born a Devil.
No child is born with a Religion or a Race or a Language.
Semua sama..
What can we do? Do something about it or shut-up about it.
I choose not to backbite but again I want to contribute…..
so experience some pain – sell of your car OR your house (legally earned)…. jump into any legal fund-collection body and donate for the well-being of the people in Palestine. DO IT SECRETLY!
You know very well that you won’t suffer as much as the people there….
Your fury will then be lessened because you’ve helped someone to lead a better life.
I have also seen many who donate a comfortable RM 1/= and sign Hamba Allah SECRETLY…. Is God such a poor master ?
READ THIS MESSAGE OF HATE: Do you think God will be proud of Mr.Z
By Z on February 2, 2009 6:11 PM
Hanan, I don’t need to have a dialogue to see who win….the absolute truth is I known this for awhile even when I were kid…and you were in your Israeli mother’s womb your fate already been written that you and your mother gonna straight to hell…I don’t have remorse,mercy or sympathy for any Israeli that got killed by Palestinian because you(Israel) deserved it.
Lastly, Believing in a HOLY GOD is what we can all do. He is in total control over all situation or else the Universe will be no more it will have collided a long time ago.
WSalam
Semuasama
Dear all,
come on.. let’s get back to the topic.
Do we really need to do this (boycott)?
if there is a vote.. then i would say yesss (i do).. that’s only one of actions we could do..
it’s all about the truth.. well, for some people of course, it’s really hard to accept it and couldn’t denied that we couldn’t force someone to believe what we believed..
there are lots articles over the net (from the history till today). Maybe someday they would do further research to find the truth..
just be honest.. open your mind to the facts & see it
thru’ your eyes.. then you may find it.. God bless you!
-abdillaah rabbuljalill
Dear Hanan,
1. thank u for responding to my post.
2. i’m not admiring hitler. but, i just wonder why he wanted to wiped out all jews. he already quote in his personal diary but can i ask u why?
3.i see..is it better to slaughtered other people? but why palestinian should pay for the sin did by the nazi? is this what u call justice? i’m curious
4. yes. hanan, u have to be a bad jew. please…i beg u. from what u have said, it is already shows who u are. but, i don’t hate u, don’t worry.
5. muslims are not hate ALL jew. and not all jew are as bad as those who killed palestinian in Gaza. even some jew in U.K and U.S also force israeli gov not to attacked palestinian. and i know, u are not one of them.
Thank you for your time.
Daisuke Senzaki, UiTM Shah Alam, Malaysia.
I’m Malaysian Muslim and proud to be one.
Good Day TUN and to all Jews haters,
To Hanan,
Please take your twisted explanation somewhere else.Everybody that reads your comment knows that you really are a retarded moron.Seriuosly you Jews really are bunch of morons.I personally think that you Jews are brought up so violently because when you (Jews) were an infant you were sucking up to a smelly Wild Pig milks.
Long Live Adolf Hitler and long live Hamas Fighters.May you keep continue to fight the Jews and send them to hell.
Children Learn
What They Live
If a Child lives with criticism,
He learns to condemn,
If a child lives with hostility,
He learns to fight.
If a child lives with ridicule,
He learns to be shy.
If a child lives with shame,
He learns to feel guilty.
If a child lives with tolerance,
He learns to be patient.
If a child lives with encouragement,
He learns confidence.
If a child lives with praise,
He learns to appreciate.
If a child lives with fairness,
He learns justice.
If a child lives with security,
He learns to have faith.
If a child lives with approval,
He learns to like himself.
If a child lives with acceptance,
And friendship,
He learns to find love in the world.
i guess we all know…..
how these children of the palestines learn and live….
may this world be peace…….
balan a hindraf… for sure
Dear Hanan,
This is again a story of a killer trying to cover up his guilt. A serial assassin (without gut by nature) will never confess the genocide he had committed, even though if he is being placed in court trial. Excuses or so-called evidence will be generated through a group of ‘professional’ barristers to ‘logicalise’ whatever facts and evidence that the world sees and knows from the video and photos easily found in any newspapers or tv in every corner of the world. Only those blind, deaf and being a murderer by generation, are so denial on the lives and soul of the babies of parents, and also dads and moms of the children you have killed because these morons, as i refer, are basically created by universities in the country that do not teach them moral and humanity.
The world must punish these morons. Yet we can’t only rely on the U.N. which is cowed by the Jews. A tribunal MUST be formed and seat by independent panels to put these people in death sentence and it will be the best resort to stop the carnage.
Hanan,
What if the entire world bomb your country, seize your homeland and kill your people, your dad and mom, your son and daughter. What if the land you stand proud of today owned by other people tomorrow. I will really appreciate if you can tell me your feelings and I’m certainly more than ready to share with you.
Sean Lum
3 Feb 2009
assalamualaikum Tun,
Sorry to say but we the muslim are being carried away by the palestinians issues
The jews have a greater agenda than to control the plot of land. Why would they need a land call palestine when they already have the world.
senzakidaisuke… we must not thank hitler. Hitler only helped the jews to become what they are today.
Hanan…oh Hanan…..Once a JEW always a JEW…..now I realize why GOD loves them so muchhhh ….they will twist and turn all the facts they can to legalize their invasion of Palestine and towards their own advantage……I made up my mind long-long time ago….as stated in Al-Quran….Israel/Jews is the lowest level of Human Being…..PERIOD.
Salam Ayahanda Tun,
It’s been a while that I have not been ‘visiting’ you here. Gosh..i guess I have missed a lot of things. In regards to Hanan’s article, as usual you said it well. But then again, people who are heartless will not accept whatever you have said, though they could be brainy. I also like the term ‘primitive brutes’…the Israelis and US are creating more of this species day by day . To some Malaysians, please read the reply by Ayahanda Tun with open mind and open hearts, otherwise you’ll be in the same category as primitive brutes, not physically but emotionally and mentally.
I miss you Ayahanda Tun….take care and do pour us with informsative thoughts…we definitely need your brainy, caring hearts ideas…
Love u,
Orang Edgecumbe Road,
Penang.
Dear Tun, I extremely agreed that Palestinian deserved the independence land and they too deserve to exist. I will never agree with anyone if they said a Palestinian independence fighter is a terrorist. From the day one in my research on security issues, I categorise the Palestine struggle as a humanitarian and not as religion but it seems you are giving priority to Palestine only and not to the other country who face the war too. My question is why Tun never speaks against the WAR IN SRI LANKA? Tamil ethnic irrespective of religion (Hindu, Muslims, Christians) dying everyday but it seems no one bothers. Majority of Malaysian believe speaking against war in Sri Lanka means indirectly supporting the insurgency which I don
Salam Tun,
Kenapalah Tun berhenti jadi PM dan serahkan tampok pemerintahan pada yang tamak, tidak bijak dan pengecut tu. Alangkah baiknya jika kita ada seorang pemimpin yang mahu bersuara tanpa takut menegakkan kebenaran.
Apa yang dirasakan betul, terus disuarakan. Biarpun kecil dan tak berkuasa dimata dunia tetapi sangat membina semangat dan harapan.
Biarpun tak semua pendapat Tun saya boleh terima, dalam hal ini saya menyanjung pendirian Tun.
Allahuakbar…
It
To senzakidaisuke,
As hitler is your role model to follow, I would be the bad Jew.
This is something Rami Kaminski, MD, wrote recently. It will answer all those people like you with distorted brains like yours.
_______________
Long Live Bad Jews!
Why I Am a Bad Jew
Rami Kaminski, MD,
For centuries, we lived in Berdichev. In the brutal Ukrainian winter of 1941, SS soldiers arrived there and rounded up eighty-seven members of my family, babies, young adults, octogenarians, stripped them naked, marched them to a nearby ditch, and executed them. Their lifeless bodies fell silently into a mass grave.
During their two millennia in the Diaspora, Jews were not known to resist. There are few recorded instances in which Jews turned against their host nations or retaliated against their murderers. Instead, the survivors if there were any were expelled or left for another place. The murdered were regarded as good Jews. They accepted their fate helplessly, without resistance.
This narrative of the Jews has played out on the historical stage with boring monotony: Jews get killed because they are Jews. Nothing novel about it. After the Holocaust, however, the world, disgusted by this particularly ghoulish period of history, accorded some sympathy for the Jews.
Media commentary about the ongoing Gaza War reveals the world has now reverted to its pre-Holocaust perspective. Today, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one. The Zionist Revolution is to “blame”. It changed everything. Jews re-created their own country.
The Arabs attacked the new Jewish state the day after independence and promised to complete Hitler’s genocide. In succeeding decades, the Arabs attacked again and again. Strangely, the Jews, many of them refugees from Arab nations, adopted a surprising, new tactic: they fought back.
With Zionism, the Jews stubbornly refused to follow the centuries-old script. They refuse to be killed without resistance. As a result, the world has become increasingly enraged at their impertinence.
The recent events in Gaza and Mumbai make this plain. In 2005, Israel eliminated all Jewish presence in Gaza making it Judenrein and handed it over to the Palestinians. Left behind were synagogues and thriving green houses. The Arabs looted and destroyed them literally the day after Israel ‘s withdrawal was complete. Where these structures once stood, the Palestinians built military bases and installed rocket launchers to shell Israeli civilians. To date, some 7,000 missiles have fallen on Israeli cities and towns, killing and maiming dozens, and sowing widespread terror. Medical studies reveal nearly all Jewish children in the communities bordering Gaza suffer from serious, trauma-induced illness.
The Gazan Palestinians then elected Hamas to lead them. Hamas proceeded to kill or imprison their political rivals, and its leaders, true to the Hamas charter, were unabashed in clearly stating their aims: they will not stop until they achieve their Final Solution, kill all the Jews, take over the land of Israel , and establish a theocracy governed by Islamic law.
As killing Jews for being Jews has been a national sport for centuries, Islamic militants are justified in believing they are merely fulfilling historical tradition in Argentina, India and Gaza. Surely the Jews in Mumbai did not occupy Gaza. They were tortured and killed just for being Jews. And predictably, in the eyes of the world, they immediately became good Jews, just like my murdered family in Bertishev.
Good Jews would wait until Hamas has weapons enabling its members to achieve their ultimate goal of absolute mass murder. Those enraged by Israel’s defensive military action insist Hamas uses only crude rockets, as if Qassams were BB guns, and military inferiority were somehow equivalent with moral superiority. In fact, Hamas now has Iranian-supplied Grad missiles which have landed on Beer Sheva and the outskirts of Tel Aviv.
Westerners have had only sporadic exposure to the indiscriminant killing in the name of holy war which Israel has lived with for years. Memories of 9-11, Madrid , and London have dimmed. This is not because the Islamic militants made a careful choice of weapons. They simply have not yet acquired nuclear bombs. Once they do, the West will develop a less detached view about the Islamists professed intentions for the infidels.
The only enlightened people in the civilized world who actually get it are the Israelis. They ve not had time for detached philosophical ponderings. They ve been too busy confronting the reality of Islamic fundamentalism.
Soon, Iran will have nuclear weapons. It will give them to Hezbollah and Hamas. Today, Jews must take a position: either be “good” Jews willing to be slaughtered without resistance, or be bad Jews who defend themselves at the cost of being pariahs of our enlightened world. Good Jews would wait for another six million to be murdered, and pick up to leave for another country to start the cycle again. The bad ones refuse to go calmly into the ditch.
I confess: I’m a bad Jew!
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Rami Kaminski, MD, is Director and Founder of the Institute for Integrative Psychiatry in New York, a not-for -profit organization aimed at evaluating current psychiatric services and how they integrate with medicine, such as the mutual effects between medical and psychiatric conditions. Prior to that, Dr. Kaminkski was the Commissioner’s Liaison to Families and Community and Medical Director of Operations at the New York State Office of Mental Health. Dr. Kaminski also holds an academic position as Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia University. He earned recognition in 1990 from Mt. Sinai Hospital as Physician of the Year, and received the Exemplary Psychiatrist Awards from the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. Dr. Kaminski ‘s research explores neuropsychiatric aspects of brain disorders, such as Alzheimer and Parkinson’s disease and movement disorders, as well as psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. He was for many years Director of The Schizophrenia research Unit at Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC. Dr. Kaminiski also served as the Medical Director of the PMHP and consultant to the committee in charge of developing the Special Needs Program.
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Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.
Hi all. I am a student from Singapore. This is my first time that I read a blog entry (Hanan) from top to bottom. (of course I skipped some repetitive parts). I am overwhelmed by 2 things.
First, the amount of response that Tun Dr M’s blog generates is just phenomenal.
Secondly, I would like to thank Tun Dr Mahathir for sharing with us his sea of knowledge. Honestly, what I learnt since 11 plus pm till 3 am right now, I would not be able to get it from my lecturers in NTU. Not disrespecting them but they are skilled in other fields.
It is an eye opener. I realised I have been living under a tempurung for 21 years. Time for me to wake up my idea!
Before I leave, I would like to say to Tun, I really respect you as a Muslim and as a leader. Saya suka dengan pemikiran Tun. Saya anggap Tun sebagai salah satu daripada ribuan kekasih-kekasih Allah, yang telah dianugerahkan hati yang terang pelajaran dunia dan akhirat.
Semoga Tun dipanjangkan umur dalam ketaatan & kesihatan, dikuatkan iman, diberkati rezeki, dan bahagia dunia akhirat. Harap dapat bertemu suatu hari nanti. 🙂
Dear Dr. Mhathir,
The problem of the Arab world has obviously become the problem of the Muslim world. I watch amazed as educated people like yourself easily fall down to promoting such concepts as expressed in your item list. This kind of insiting beliefs had existed through out history and mostly in times of crisis.
You are bashing the jews, although this conflict is about Israel and Pleastine. You are bashing Israel although 20% of Israelis are Muslim like yourself and some even serve in the Israeli Army. How is bashing Israel or the US help to promote understanding and peace? You believe you know the facts from half a world away, but as an Israeli let me tell you that I have to live the facts day by day, not hear about them second hand. You do not have to live with the grieve and agony over your best friend’s 3 year old girl that was murdered by a Plestinian “Shaheed”/”Freedom Fighter” entering her own home and shooting her in the head just because she was a jewish child. There are houndred of such murder attempts which are being toppled each week however I am sure you do not hear, nor seeked for them. So, If I am a heartless monster, like you say, how come my heart is weaping? If I am a monster for doing every thing in my power to protect my children from the rightrous brutality of the ones that call them selves “Shaids” and call upon my destruction- then let it be so. But this monster of yours has never cheered for the death of inocents like Muslim all over had in Spet 11. I deeply weap when Plestinian children get hurt when caught in cross fire – They are not to balme. However I dont forgive those who put intentional murder as a goal for their “Holy War” no matter what their cause is.
Thanks from me and from all my good Malay friends sharing similar feeling but are intimidated to express them in open.
Alon,
Israel.
DEAR HANAN,
MY NIECE ALSO NAMED HANAN BUT I THINK SHE WOULD UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE CRUELTY OF ISRAELIS. IF YOU WANT TO JUSTIFY WHAT ISRAEL HAS DONE TO THE PALESTINIANS; JAILED THEM WITH THE CONCRETE WALL, NO TRAVEL WITHOUT ISRAEL PERMISSION, NO SUPPLIES, NO FREEDOM, SEIZING THEIR LAND, DEMOLISHING THEIR HOME AND FARMS, BEING TARGETED BY ISRAEL DRONE AT ANY TIME. AND MANY MORE OF OPPRESSIONS BEING PUT ON PALESTINIANS WITHOUT THEY BEING GIVEN ANY RIGHT TO FIGHT BACK OR AT LEAST TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, IF THEY FIGHT BACK THAT WILL BE BRANDED AS TERRORIST ONLY TO SEE ISRAEL DRONE CAN DO THE KILLING AS THEY WISHED. THE PARALYZED SHEIKH YASEN ALSO DID NOT ESCAPED FROM ISRAEL DRONE, BEING ROCKETED AFTER FINISHED THE DAWN PRAYER. NOBODY WOULD STAY IN GAZA TO PUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST FOR 60 YEARS. I WONDER IF YOU COULD STAY LONGER THAN 2 WEEKS IN GAZA WITHOUT FREEDOM AND SUPPLIES. YOUR GRANDMOTHER, YOUR UNCLES AND YOURSELF ALSO COULD NOT STAND THE NAZI AND RAN AWAY TO US, HOW COULD YOU BLIND YOUR EYES AND HEARTS TO SUPPORT THE SAME CRUELTY AGAINST PALESTINIANS. NO MUSLIMS REALY SUPPORT THE NAZIS HOWEVER IF ISRAELIS WOULD JUSTIFY WHAT THEY DID TO PALESTINIANS, NOT ONLY MUSLIMS BUT OTHER RELIGIONS AND RACES WOULD REGARD HITLER AS THEIR SAVIOR AGAINST THE JEWS.
I HAVE READ ONE AMERICAN JEWS CONVERTED TO MUSLIM BECAUSE OF SIMPLE REASONS;
1. HIS LOOKING FOR UNIVERSAL RELIGION, THAT IS NOT JUDAISM BECAUSE IT IS EXCLUSIVE FOR WHOM WHO BORN JEWS. HOW COMES GOD SO RACIST CREATING THE RELIGION ONLY FOR JEWS.
2. HIS LOOKING FOR RELIGION WITH ONE GOD, IF SO MANY GODS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE DISAGREED WITH EACH OTHER, LIKES ISRAEL AND PALESTINE? NOT IN HINDUISM AND BUDDHISM. MEANWHILE IN CHRISTIAN THERE ARE SON OF GOD, THAT MEAN ALSO FATHER OF GOD AND RUHUL QUDUS, THERE ARE 3 GODS, THAT CANNOT BE. ONE VERSES IN THE BIBLE ARE SAYING MESSIAH HAD SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO CLEAN HIS FOLLOWER SINS BUT IN ANOTHER VERSES MESSIAH ASKING THE GOD WHETHER ANY CHANCE FOR GOD MERCIES AND THIS CONTRADICTING.
3. THEN HE FOUND MANY ANSWERS IN AL QURAN THAT HAVE PROVEN SCIENTIFICALLY THAT IMPOSSIBLE FOR HUMAN BEING 1450 YEARS AGO T NARRATE THE QURAN.
4. THE SURAH AL-IKHLAS HAS DECRIBED HOW IS ALLAH,THE ONLY ONE GOD, THE ETERNAL, THE AABSOLUTE, NOT HE BEGETS AND NOT HE IS BEGOTTEN, AND NOT FOR HIM ANY EQUIVALENT.
WE ARE NEITHER ANTI JEWS NOR SUPPORTER OF HITLER BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE MASSACRE AND GENOCIDAL OF HUMAN BEING PALESTINIANS, WE ARE ALSO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO JUSTIFY THE HOLOCAUST.
THOUSANDS GOOD CANNOT JUSTIFY ONES WRONG.
I WISH TO GET YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS SO I CAN E-MAIL TO YOU THE PHOTOS OF CIVILIANS BEING KILLED WITHOUT PROVOCATION. SO WE CAN TREAT OURSELVES AS GOD CREATION AND WORKING FOR PEACE.
MY EMAIL ADDRESS; [email protected]
DEAR FRIEND HANAN,
TQ
WRM
Tun,
Seperti apa yang dikatakan oleh saya dahulu, Tuhan mencipta kita semua untuk menikmati apa yang diciptanya di dunia ini. Jadi tiada gunanya kita menggunakan akal dan fikiran kita untuk mempertahankan sebarangan peperangan yang hanya akan menghancurkan dunia yang dicipta oleh Tuhan kita. Pada pandangan saya tiada pencipta yang sanggup melihat makluknya berperang sesama sendiri dengan bunuh membunuh sesama umat manusia di dunia. Sekiranya ada maka ia boleh diibaratkan sebagai seorang bapa yang melahirkan anak dan kemudian mengajar mereka untuk saling bunuh dan membunuh sesama anak mereka.Apakah kita berasa megah dengan fakta-fakta kita untuk mempertahankan sebarang unsur peperangan sedangkan ia membawa kemusnahan dan kehancuran kepada umat manusia? Sekiranya Tun merasakan ada bapa yang sanggup berbuat demikian maka tulislah dan siarkan komen saya untuk dilihat oleh semua manusia yang dikatakan bijak dan sentiasa menggunakan akal dan fikiran yang diberikan oleh pencipta kita.
Pada pandangan saya , peperangan berlaku disebabkan oleh kelemahan sifat mereka (sebagai manusia)yang lupa satu sifat yang paling utama dalam satu kehidupan iaitu mencapai kehidupan yang paling sempurna di dunia ini dengan memaafkan kesalahan sesama manusia dan dan bergerak kearahan pepaduan manusia sejagat.Kelemahan inilah yang menyebabkanb manusia gagal di dalam pengujian pencipta kita untuk memaafkan sesama umat manusia dan menggunakan akal dan fikiran untuk mencapai kesejahteraan dan keamanan sejagat demi kebaikan semua makhluk ciptaannya demi untuk mencapai satu kehidupan yang paling bermakna dalam dunia sementara ini. Jadi fikirlah sedalam-dalamnya akan hakikat bahawa kita semua adalah makhluk ciptaan Tuhan tanpa membeza-bezakan warna kulit, agama dan apa-apa yang akan mengugat keamanan sejagat. Sekiranya manusia dapat mengingati unsur paling penting iaitu bagaimana kita wujud di dunia ini maka kita semua akan bersatu dan mencapai satu kenikmatan hidup di dunia sementara ini tanpa berperang.
Quote from Hitler’s Personal Diary
” I could have annihilated all the jews in the world, but i left some of them so you will know why i was killing them.”
signed Adolf Hitler.
Aslmualaikum YABhg. Tun,
how are u? Tun, i’m quite upset when heard that some malaysian supprt israel. but, we can’t do anything regarding that. it is their point of view and they are looking the conflict based on their narrow perspective. some of them thought that the conflict in palestine is muslims problem.
yes, israel is defending themselves..
but why hamas keep attacked them? the answer is simple..
they occupied palestinian land..
is it wrong for them to do so (attacked israel)?
they are defending themselves.
actually, i like the quotation from one of our friend here. he quote quotation from late adolf hitler. hitler is a war criminal. but what he and his army done is very significant to us. i don’t know much bout him but i really respect hitler as a leader.
there is no perfect leader in this world..
but, hitler is not the worst one..
olmert, shimon peres, netanyahu, ehud barak, ariel sharon, bush, blair, john howard is example of among the worse leader in the 21st century..
they do nothing for the future, despite they ruin it..
chaotic…
Tun, keep up the good work.
salam Tun & fellow bloggers,
Dear Hanan,
I have only one question,which puzzled me & others:
Why Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousand of years?
wassalam
Hanan, I don’t need to have a dialogue to see who win….the absolute truth is I known this for awhile even when I were kid…and you were in your Israeli mother’s womb your fate already been written that you and your mother gonna straight to hell…I don’t have remorse,mercy or sympathy for any Israeli that got killed by Palestinian because you(Israel) deserved it.
Dear Hanan,
I liked what you wrote too, with all specific and clean cut facts stated I was able to absorb more history knowledge from you. You even go to the extend of analyzing and listing out the facts point by point as opposing argument and making logical comparisons, these are indeed intelligent argument as it wasn’t swayed by emotions and personal background, I respect and honor you for the knowledge you have in providing comprehensive explaination. God bless you.
hi all,
all i can see in the blog and the comments are hate, hate, and hate…
Tun,
I read all of the 431 comments including Hanan
its ok hanan,
some people will rather use their emotion instead of using their intelligent. anyway you have tried your best, as for me, i rather sit and read those comments out here for it is not worth to educate people whom will not willing to undestand the fact.
Why bother about something in foreign land when in our own land, discrimination and police brutality is overwhelming…
Ibarat gajah di tepi mata tidak nampak, tetapi kuman di seberang laut yang kita nampak.
dear tun,
i have posted in your previous message but i didnt see it surface yet.. anyway i have something to share from christian perspective.
Just my humble quotes from the bible. no offense to my muslim brothers.
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
–1 John 2:9,10
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
–1 John 3:15
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
–1 John 4:20
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another (John 13:34).
But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse (Romans 12:14).
We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it (1 Corinthians 4:12).
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21).
Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).
Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble (1 John 2:9-10).
Hanan,
Here’s another info digging I made for you. All you have to do is just click the link below and you’ll find what you cant find on BBC or CNN.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Assalamualaikum Tun,
To compare the Kugan case with the plight of the Palestinians is not fair, eventhough both bring misery and anguish and distressing to the minds of everyone.
Firstly, the Palestinians are not the criminals or the suspected criminals here. They are the war victims and are prisoners in their own land. They do not commit crime to earn bread and water for a living. They are being pulped to death for a crime they did not commit by a country called Israel.
Police brutalities occurred in every country and in every corners of the world. Remember the beatings of the blacks in the US by the white American police? Remember the fatal shooting of the Brazilian engineer in a bus by the UK police? Remember the death of a young man by the Greek police? Remember the deaths of the Aborigines in Australian police jails? All kinds of brutalities by all kinds of people are to be condemned!
In Malaysia we are blessed with the stability and harmony among all the people and we must admit that we are thankful for the protection of the police to make this country a safe place to live.
Let those found guilty be punished by the law. Nobody is above the law.
Tun, will the time comes when those greatest CRIMINALS OF WAR on earth be tried and punished accordingly to the brutal and inhumane crimes they have committed? It won’t be fair if they are free to roam the world with their dangerous minds and clenching fists to the small and the weak. They are very good in the craft of manipulation, aren’t they Tun.
Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
hihi Tun, semoga sihat selalu.
manusia ada akal tapi takde hati itu teruk seperti yang dikatakan oleh tun, tapi orang yang takde akal atau akal separuh itu dasyat….
seperti muslim yang lain, tun hanya 100% membenci kepada orang bukan islam, jews, america, dan juga singapura, tak mahu tahu sejarah, yang tahu hanya, janji dia islam, dia orang baik, kalau dia bukan islam, maka dia jahat… senang betul cara tun berfikir… adakah konflik-2 yang berlaku di serata dunia begitu mudah ditafsir? begitu senang nak membezakan siapa betul dan siapa salah? kadang-2 suami isteri bergaduh pun kita susah nak kata siapa salah, jangan cakap israel-palestine yang berlaku sejak beribu-ribu tahun dahulu lagi…
saya begitu sedih bila mendengar tun cakap mahu berperang dengan israel, america dan singapura. buat mereka ketawa sahaja… tak tahu apa-apa then mahu perang, macam budak-budak nakal cakap mahu pukul cikgu… tun kan dulu PM, inikah akal yang dimiliki tun?
saya tidak memihak mana-mana pihak, saya cuma tahu yang derita adalah rakyat jelata. bolehkah kita semua abaikan puak, keturunan, agama dan berusaha untuk semua yang memerlukan bantuan?
jews dan arab memang hidup baik bersama. hanya ahli politik yang buat kecoh. sama seperti di malaysia, islam dan bukan islam hidup harmoni cuma orang-orang politik buat kacau…
Dear Tun Dr.Mahathir,
You are a well known champion for Muslims world and the muslims PATI in Sabah. I suppose you are very happy blogging as a retired PM as you have accompliced your mission to turn Sabah a haven for the muslims PATI? You didn’t care who they were as long as they are muslims. The PATI in Sabah proudly say “saya dapat IC projek Presiden Mahathir”. You thought that only the non-muslims will suffer when muslims outnumber them, but you mistaken dear Tun, your own muslims bloods are in worst situation than non-muslims excepts some UMNO muslims are in a comfortable life because they can built homes like JAILs. How many kampong folks killed by your PATI dear Tun? Most are muslims you didn’t even know. How many local muslims children became thief, drug addicts, etc due to the influence by your PATI dear Tun? You didn’t even know. Look at the populations in your JAILs throughout M’sia dear Tun, they are muslims majority. Count the drug addicts in the country dear Tun, you can’t count the muslims with your fingers. So who’s fault is this dear Tun? If you are not “MELAYU MUDAH LUPA” you clearly could remember, it’s you. Nobody else cos Paklah is just the inheritor of your crime.
Hanan,
You may need to do some info-digging before you said anything again about Palestine-Israel conflict. The Palestinians and Israeli were doing just fine (live peacefully) before there is an ISRAEL state.
Try reading Muhammad Asad’s and you’ll find the root cause of this conflict. Perhaps you could see the two sides of your coin perfectly.
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Let there be PEACE, not PISSED.
Salam Ayahanda Tun. Some says let us go read more puisi berapi in front of TV cameras over this whole issue. I dont know, but it’s the happening always with us sir. Some say lets boycott the Americans! My cousin just had an argument with me over it as I told him to get rid of that BMW as they are the main aircraft engine supplier next to Saab Scania for the Israeli Airforce Kffir fighters and their Nachshons VIP carriers. Even this software I am using is kosher somehow. What to do Tun? I look down to the very ground I stood on. And I look around me. And Tun, I still see hungry children even in Malaysia. I cant fix the world, but I can surely fix the community of which I am a part of. So I have decided to do my part, by bringing good food for the children. Lets hope others see that way too sir. We are all they have sometimes.
I say man….., Hanan
What is this, huh..? In your last posting/comments (on February 1, 2009 3:24 PM) you even had to ‘ciplak’ (plagiarize) comments from SUNLEE and nobita. No need to do that lah….., everyone can read what they had said here.
No class lah you. Where’s your originality? Supposedly brainy Ashkenazi Jews like yourself should be more resourceful and have greater writing material…, kan? …errr.., I mean… is it not so?
Anyways (people like to use that word
Ya Zionist datang.. Serang!!
Ya Yahudi datang.. Serang!!
Ya Israel datang.. Serang!!
Serang dan terus serang.
Tak kira walau seketul batu, walau sekecil mata pena tetap jihad.
Membaca tulisan Hanan membuat hati ini tertarik hati untuk terus untuk memboikot barangan Yahudi and the gangs, US & kapir-laknat yang ada di Msia nih. Terus boikot..
Hanan, will you marry me?? I want #U@8$ right now. Let me teach you how to do.. I mean what a different a debate and the ‘kick’.
dear hanan,
My niece also named hanan but I think she would understand more about the cruelty of Israelis. If you want to justify what Israel has done to the palestinians; jailed them with the concrete wall, no travel without Israel permission, no supplies, no freedom, seizing their land, demolishing their home and farms, being targeted by Israel drone at any time. And many more of oppressions being put on palestinians without they being given any right to fight back or at least to defend themselves, if they fight back that will be branded as terrorist only to see Israel drone can do the killing as they wished. The paralyzed Sheikh Yasen also did not escaped from Israel drone, being rocketed after finished the dawn prayer. Nobody would stay in Gaza to put under house arrest for 60 years. I wonder if you could stay longer than 2 weeks in Gaza without freedom and supplies. Your grandmother, your uncles and yourself also could not stand the Nazi and ran away to US, how could you blind your eyes and hearts to support the same cruelty against palestinians. No muslims realy support the Nazis however if Israelis would justify what they did to palestinians, not only muslims but other religions and races would regard hitler as their Savior against the jews.
I have read one american Jews converted to muslim because of simple reasons;
1. his looking for universal religion, that is not judaism because it is exclusive for whom who born jews. how comes god so racist creating the religion only for jews.
2. his looking for religion with one god, if so many gods what would happen if the disagreed with each other, likes Israel and Palestine? not in Hinduism and Buddhism. Meanwhile in christian there are son of god, that mean also father of god and Ruhul Qudus, there are 3 gods, that cannot be. one verses in the bible are saying messiah had sacrificed himself to clean his follower sins but in another verses messiah asking the god whether any chance for god mercies and this contradicting.
3. then he found many answers in Al Quran that have proven scientifically that impossible for human being 1450 years ago t narrate the Quran.
4. the surah Al-Ikhlas has decribed how is Allah,the only one God, the Eternal, the Aabsolute, not He begets and not He is begotten, and not for Him any equivalent.
We are neither anti jews nor supporter of hitler but if you are trying to justify the massacre and genocidal of human being palestinians, we are also have every right to justify the holocaust.
thousands good cannot justify ones wrong.
I wish to get your e-mail address so I can e-mail to you the photos of civilians being killed without provocation. so we can treat ourselves as god creation and working for peace.
My email address; [email protected]
dear friend hanan,
TQ
Dera Tun,
We are so caught up in the sensational that we forgotten the real unseen terrorist which is killing millions and making millions more suffer
Be enlightened an read the following article.
The Terrorist we don’t see
The following text was the basis of a presentation by Tarek El Diwany under the title “Third World Debt” at Cambridge University’s “One World Week” in February 2002
One kind of terrorism hasn’t been making the news recently. Its weapon is debt, and it is a most efficient killer.
“Relieved of their annual debt repayments, the severely indebted countries could use the funds for investments that in Africa alone would save the lives of about 21 million children by 2000 and provide 90 million girls and women with access to basic education”
UNDP Human Development Report 1997, p. 93
The poor nations of the world are told that if they borrow and invest wisely, they will be able to repay their debts and more. But they’ve been hearing this for fifty years, and the debt just keeps on growing.
1980 1990 2000
Developing country debt ($bn) 525.4 1259.8 2140.6
Actual payments of interest plus principal($bn)73.4 140.6 337.8
IMF World Economic Outlook 2001
Western economists tell the developing world that growth will generate sufficient wealth for all their people. But ours is a very unequal world, so when the growth comes few people see its benefits.
“225 people own more wealth than the poorest 2.5 billion people”
UNDP Human Development Report 1998
The development institutions trumpet their aid to the world, to show that something is being done. But what is given with one hand, is taken back many times over with the other. According to the World Bank, in 1999 Angola received $261m in aid but paid $1144m in debt service, Cameroon received $190m in aid but paid $549m in debt service, Kenya received $195m in aid but paid $716m in debt service, and Vietnam received 257m in aid but paid 1410m in debt service (Global Development Finance, 2001).
When charity pop concerts for Africa are held in London or New York, the tens of millions raised are typically enough to pay the continent’s interest bill for a few hours. In 1999, the developing countries excluding the Eastern block were more than $2,030 billion in debt to the developed world (Global Development Finance, 2001). In 2000, the IMF put the figure for total developing country debt at $2,140 billion (World Economic Outlook, 2000). Some $700 million per day now flows in debt repayment from the developing world to the developed world (UNDP Human Development Report, 1997).
If we examine some basic indicators of wellbeing, we can begin to see the physical consequences of the debt. In 1995 the industrialised countries experienced child mortality (the number of deaths at less than 5 years of age per 1000 live births) at a rate of 16. In south Asia the figure was 109, and in sub-Saharan Africa it was 169 (UNDP Human Development Report 1998). This should not surprise us. In Tanzania, debt repayment was six times spending on healthcare, whilst in Uganda annual spending was £2 per person on healthcare and £11.50 per person on debt repayment (Jubilee 2000).
According to the United Kingdom’s Department for International Development in 2000, 1.2 billion people live in “abject poverty”, meaning that they have no basic medical care, nutrition or housing. In the sub-Sahara, 48% of people go without health services, 48% of people are without safe water and 42% are illiterate, whilst in south-Asia the corresponding figures are 22%, 18% and 49.5%. Measured in 1987 US Dollars, GDP per capita in sub Sahara was $520 and in South Asia $521, whilst in the Industrialised Countries it was $12,764 (1995 figures compiled in UNDP Human Development Report, 1998).
Things don’t seem to be getting better either. Real wages in most African countries have fallen by more than 50% since 1980 (Jubilee 2000). According to The Centre for Economic Policy Research in 2001, more than three-quarters of the world’s countries had a growth rate at least 5% lower in the 1980-2000 period than in the 1960-1980 period. China is one major exception, but not because it took advice from the World Bank and IMF. (Far from it in fact. China has been one of the few countries to completely reject IMF and World Bank advice, opting instead for protectionism, an inconvertible currency and a state controlled banking system.) In 1996 the UN said that the poorest third of the world’s people are getting poorer. Even the World Bank has admitted that, between 1987 and 1998, the number of people in absolute poverty (meaning that they survive on less than $1 per day) increased from 1200 million to 1500 million.
Among the various actors in this sad tale, the World Bank and the IMF stand tall. Established under the Bretton Woods arrangements in 1944, the World Bank was to provide development assistance for non-commercial projects, and the IMF was to assist nations in short term balance of payments difficulties and act to ensure currency stability. Often mentioned in the same breath, but entirely separate, the World Trade Organisation (WTO) was established in 1995 as the successor to GATT (the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) in order to implement free trade and global standardisation among the world’s nations. When it comes to defining country types, there is some variation in the methodology of the supranational institutions. Generally speaking, each recognises developing, transitional and developed countries. The OECD’s Development Assistance Committee separates developing and transitional countries according to GNP per capita. Here, “developing” includes “least developed” and “low income” countries which had a GNP per capita below $760 in 1998. In 2002, UNCTAD listed 49 “least developed” countries. The WTO meanwhile allows members to self-select themselves as “developed” or “developing” but, where trade privileges are available to developing countries, one country may challenge another’s self-selection.
Some two thirds of Third World debt is owed to commercial lenders, and one-third to multilateral lenders (these are lenders, such as the World Bank, who have the right to exercise discretionary dispersal of contributions from members). It is important to keep in mind that when figures for total external debt are given, they normally comprise the public and the private foreign currency debt owed by a country. Debt owed in a country’s own currency does not usually present a debt burden for that country because the domestic government can manufacture its own money to repay its debt (one exception is where a currency board or strict peg has been adopted). On the other hand, developing countries cannot manufacture US Dollars or other Western currencies and so debts owed by developing countries to the developed world can indeed become a desperate financial burden.
Apart from the definitional nuances, there are also some statistical traps to be aware of. It is necessary to distinguish between the ‘nominal debt’ of a country and the ‘present value’ of its debt. Since the interest payment on a $10 loan made at 10% is equal to the interest payment on a $100 loan at 1%, loans at subsidised rates of interest that are made to some countries can be stated on a present value basis in order to understate the amount of debt that is owed. For example, in 1999, the nominal versus present-valued debt for Benin was $1.62 billion versus $0.70 billion, and for Burundi $1.06 billion versus $0.54 billion. Another statistical trap is that debt service (quoted as interest plus principal as a percentage of export revenue, or as a percentage of government revenue) may be compiled on the basis of what is actually paid rather than what was contracted to be paid. Debt service figures may therefore appear as if they are not worsening, whereas these figures only remain steady because the country in question is at the limit of what it can pay.
After fifty years at the helm of development policy, a variety of excuses have emerged from the international financial establishment in respect of their performance. The “corrupt dictators” argument is one that seems to have stuck well in the public’s mind but, like the others, it fails to stand up to close inspection. Is the whole of the developing world corrupt? If it is, did Western lenders really not recognise that fact until thousands of billions of dollars had been lent over many decades? Is the whole of the developing world corrupt, or just its leaders? If so, who schooled its leaders, who promoted them and who supported them? Have the Western powers played no part in this? Serious readers of history don’t need me to answer that question of course.
The “recycled petrodollars” argument is similarly lacking in merit as an explanation of the Third World debt problem. In fact, the debt problem had commenced long before the oil price rises of the 1970’s. Egypt in the 1860’s, the Ottomans in the 1870’s, and in the 1930’s almost all of South America defaulted on their debt to the industrialised countries. In the 1960’s, Brazil, Turkey and Argentina were among those rescheduling once again. If the Third World debt problem is not post Oil Crisis, we can hardly hold petrodollar recycling to blame for it.
Another modern habit is to define away those problems that cannot be cured, or to invent new measures if the old ones prove too embarrassing. One example is this:
“Opening up their economies to the global economy has been essential in enabling many developing countries to develop competitive advantages in the manufacture of certain products. In these countries, defined by the World Bank as the ‘new globalizers’ (World Bank, Globalization, Growth, and Poverty: Facts, Fears, and an Agenda for Action) the number of people in absolute poverty declined by over 120 million (14 percent) between 1993 and 1998”.
IMF staff papers, Global Trade Liberalization and the Developing Countries, November 2001
Well done to the propaganda department at the World Bank. It must have taken a long time to think that one up. It reminds me of the way that unemployment was reduced in the UK under the Thatcher government during the 1980’s; a sharp monetary expansion combined with over 100 changes to the definition of the word “unemployed”.
Then there are those factually correct statements that border upon plain distortion because they omit one or more pieces of crucial information. Michael Rowbotham in Goodbye America, 2000 gives the example of Uganda, cited by ex US Treasury secretary Larry Summers as a country that had experienced several years of growth under World Bank policy during the 1990’s. The bit that was missed out was the fact that Uganda’s per capita income in 2000 was 30% less than in 1983. Technically Summers was correct, there had been “several years of growth”, but only after the policies prescribed in Washington had encouraged a catastrophic collapse.
More weighty still is the combined criticism of developing country experts from around the world that Rowbotham has assembled. For example:
“The total collapse of the monetarist experiment in Chile is a salutary lesson in the failure of IMF prescriptions, even when applied in their most rigorous form and by a government totally committed to their success”
Latin America Bureau, The Poverty Brokers, 1983.
In Yugoslavia:
“In the last ten years, the whole IMF policy has been nothing but a failure. All its prognoses were proved wrong, and its policies and measures had an opposite effect from what had been expected”
Singer, H. & Sharma, S. (eds) Economic Development and Third World Debt, 1983.
And in Africa:
“There is a very broad consensus among African governments that the IMF and World Bank terms are often harsh and unsuitable generated severely adverse effects on the overall economies of these countries especially with regard to agriculture, manufacture and foreign trade”
Conference of the Institute for African Alternatives, Onimode, B. [ed.], The IMF, the World Bank Bank and African Debt, Zed Books, 1989.
The philosophy that got much of the world into this dreadful mess has a long pedigree. It began with Benthamite self-interest and ended in the belief that profit maximisation was the goal of human activity. This belief has gone so far that the West now seems to be forgetting that not all wealth is measured in terms of money. Happiness, a stress-free life and environmental quality are some examples of wealth that is not given a monetary value and therefore does not appear in our calculations of GDP. Yet we attach such holiness to GDP that all our efforts are focussed upon increasing it. In 1989, Daly and Cobb calculated that there had been a decrease of 40% in the quality of life in the USA since 1970, based upon adverse changes in factors such as the working week, pollution, stress levels and divorce rates. The Centre for Economic Policy Research in the USA says that the median US real wage was the same in 2000 as it was in 1973, so even most Americans have not shared the growth that the USA is said to have experienced. What hope then for the people of the developing world where wealth inequality is that much higher and “growth” that much lower?
In modern capitalist societies production is generally guided by what makes profit, not by what satisfies need. Normally this would be fine because everyone with a need would have sufficient money to satisfy it. But in an economic system based upon usury and fractional reserve banking, the commercial banks have created a scarcity of money and it is this scarcity that prevents some of the people and nations from fulfilling their requirements. Ignorant of usury, on occasion denying its existence, the conventional economists have failed to promote this analysis of the problem. Instead we are treated to all manner of hocus pocus theories and remedies. As each remedy fails, the public becomes ever more cynical. What we need is a holistic vision, but what we get is tunnel vision, the language of target ranges and accounting ratios. One day the experts will realise that good statistics are driven by a healthy economy, not the other way round.
Like the “war on terrorism”, the “free trade and free markets” mantra has acquired a life of its own. Everything seems to be justifiable, even hunger, if free trade or free markets are involved. Like other mantras, the free trade variety is full of irony. In this case the irony arises because Third World producers have often found themselves selling resources to effective monopoly buyers from the West. The irony continues further because, despite the use of the word “free”, for many developing countries “free trade” amounts to no more than the exploitation of their unskilled labour by a foreign multinational. Developing countries accept this situation largely because of the debt trap. Any source of foreign currency is better than none when interest charges need to be paid. Often, weak regulation (on pollution and labour rights, for example) is used to attract foreign direct investment. At the end of it all the developing countries are too often left with a cut down rainforest, an inconsequential skill set, and a pile of debt that still needs to be repaid.
When advice arrives for the developing countries, it too frequently rides on a World Bank or IMF horse. It is their advisors who dominate government departments in developing countries, often stationed there as part of the conditionality for previous aid packages. Joe Stiglitz, former chief economist at the World Bank, is particularly scathing of the World Bank’s approach to providing financial assistance for developing countries. A country investigation, according to him, involves little more than a close investigation of a country’s Five Star hotels. After this, a begging finance minister is presented with a pre-drafted restructuring agreement for ‘voluntary’ signing. The agreement typically comprises the standard one-size fits-all components of: 1) privatisation; 2) capital market liberalisation; 3) market based pricing; and 4) free trade. The corporate agenda and absolutist ideology is unmistakable.
In the case of Ecuador the absolutism went so far as a recommendation to take the US Dollar as the country’s currency, even though the World Bank itself admitted that this would push 51% of the population below the poverty line. This kind of thing can only be the result of heartless Darwinism invading the space of development economics. The strong will survive, they tell us, as if the weak can be left to die like animals in the jungle.
The weakness of academic discourse in the face of the commercial and economic realities is unsurprising given that so much research is funded by the financial establishment itself. The mighty World Bank determines much of the discourse in development economics because it is one of the most financially powerful institutions on the block. Other cultures, and other paradigms, just don’t fit the Washington consensus. Some of the worst double standards of Western policy can be seen here, where the academic and the political meet.
For example, the Borrow/Invest/Export/Repay development model continues to be promoted even when, as Rowbotham reminds us, not one developing country has gone into debt with the IMF and World Bank and subsequently paid it off. There is the typical IMF response to budget and trade deficits in the developing world, namely that the country in question should engage an austerity programme. Why is the USA, the world’s biggest debtor and holder of the biggest trade deficit, not implementing this advice itself? Then we have the Bush administration authorising an extra $48 billion in weapons procurement expenditure, whilst the UN is telling us that $80 billion invested annually will eradicate poverty in the developing countries and thereby benefit one billion people. Isn’t the best way to protect America from hateful foreigners to make their lives bearable back home?
The host of contradictions continues. Western governments often argue that debt finance is acceptable if projects are self-liquidating. So why don’t they advance finance to developing countries on a profit sharing basis instead of charging interest? The IMF and the World Bank insist that the Third World must remove subsidies, for example in agriculture, but the developed world pays hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies to agriculture, for example by means of the Common Agricultural Policy in Europe. As Stiglitz points out, the Third World is advised to remove barriers to trade and stop protecting domestic industry, but no developed country succeeded in becoming developed like this. (Japan had protection and promoted its Keiretsu model for many decades. The USA had tariffs throughout the nineteenth century. England had a colonial empire to sustain it. Even supposedly successful transitional nations such as South Korea adopted protectionism in the twentieth century.)
It has been asked elsewhere why, if international competition really is so good, foreign doctors lawyers and dentists are not allowed to enter the United States in greater numbers? If US medical salaries were at the European level, then the US would save tens of billions of dollars annually in care costs, certainly much more than the few hundred millions of dollars of annual saving estimated to have been made due to trade liberalisation under the WTO in 1995 (General Accounting Office, USA). Well there’s a restrictive trade lobby for doctors and lawyers of course, we know that, but when do we ever hear the free traders in the WTO, IMF and World Bank complaining about it?
The major supranational institutions urge transparency of procedures in accountancy standards and talk increasingly about accountability and other fine democratic principles, but when it comes to their own behaviour these principles are often nowhere to be seen. For example, IMF board meetings rarely record the voting pattern of directors and don’t release minutes. The US controls 17% of the voting rights at the IMF executive, and then we find that major decisions such as an amendment of the IMF’s Articles or use of its gold reserves require an 85% majority. The IMF board of directors has one seat each for the USA, Japan, Germany, France, UK, Saudi Arabia, Russia and China, but large groupings of other countries find themselves allotted one or two directors only. Thus the whole of Africa has had only two directors, a wholly inadequate state of affairs given that it is incurring much of the debt burden. Then at the WTO we find that three bureaucrats can meet in secret to determine disputes against governments who interfere with the freedom of trade.
Amidst all these contradictions, it is hard to see where the principles meet the practice. The Highly Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) initiative is a good example of the public relations exercise that can be used to dress up ineffectual policy on a grand scale. The HIPC was portrayed in many quarters as an effort on the part of the world’s rich countries to reduce the burden of the most heavily indebted poor countries. In fact, its scope was so restricted, so subjected to conditionality, that it was hopelessly ineffectual.
HIPC was to apply where economic mismanagement and corruption could be shown to have resulted in the wastage of borrowed money. It therefore excluded all those situations in which World Bank or IMF mismanagement and corruption might have been shown to be the cause of the debt build up and, worse still, allowed these institutions to define the meaning of ‘sound management’ when their own practices are often far from sound.
By the “decision point”, the point at which debt relief could be agreed, an HIPC country had to have adopted a Poverty Reduction Structural Plan (PRSP). If the net present value of the HIPC debt was greater than 150% of exports (or greater than 250% of fiscal revenues in the case of internationally “open economies”) then international lenders would commit to provide debt relief by the “completion point”. At the completion point, the HIPC country had to have implemented the PRSP for at least one year, and have met various financial targets set by the World Bank.
Those were the hurdles. So what about the performance?
41 countries fell within the scope of the HIPC initiative, having a total of $205 billion in debt. HIPC therefore excluded some 90% of developing country debt. 23 HIPC countries had reached the decision point by September 2001, and these received $20.7 billion in debt relief. In other words, by September 2001, some 1% of developing country debt had been addressed. Of the 23 countries to have passed the decision point, 4 reached the completion point by the end of 2001. Among these 4 countries, debt service was reduced by up to 50%. Total developing country debt service payments were thereby cut by $1.1bn annually, a reduction of some $3 million per day in the context of total daily debt repayments exceeding $700 million.
HIPC is big on fanfare, small on substance and it is not a cure. In fact the financial establishment is incapable of providing a cure for the debt problem, because that would require its own abolition. We cannot ask a financial system that has grown up on usury and fractional reserve banking to give up usury and fractional reserve banking. The continued procession of monetary crises in the developing world should by now have focussed the media spotlight upon these two practices, but the spotlight remains firmly directed at the “corrupt dictators”, “inefficient practices”, “inflexible labour forces”, in fact anything and everything except the current policies of the lenders themselves. (Past policies on the other hand can quite often be the subject of self-criticism by IMF and World Bank executives because such honesty disarms the critics, makes it look as if the mistakes of the past have been recognised and rectified, and helps to show some humility.)
The Islamic solutions to the problems that we face are based upon an entirely different philosophy to that of capitalist liberalism. Muslims know that economic growth is not the objective of life. The true objective is to worship Allah and this does not require economic growth, nor necessarily imply it. Of course, if it enables us to improve the quality of life there is nothing wrong in having economic growth, but we are dealing with a question of priorities here, of worshipping growth or God. It is becoming clearer by the day in the West that materialism, like all forms of godless self-interest, cannot support the social structures that are essential to the survival of society. Trust is one such structure, without which society will collapse in the long run, but trust and materialism have never been the best of friends.
Once, when the Muslims adhered to the rules of Allah, the world was a very different place. It was characterised by peace and justice, not usury and debt Holocaust. Even for non-Muslims it was a Golden Age, one that thrived for almost 1300 years. Now Islam has been relegated to the back room, and the bankers have assumed the controls. To put debt relief in the hands of such men is like putting a thief in charge of home security. They give us structural adjustment and debt forgiveness, when it is they that should be adjusting, they that should be seeking forgiveness for their usury.
But there is hope. The developing nations should not think that they are powerless in the face of their oppressors. Their best weapon now is the very scale of the debt crisis itself. A coordinated and simultaneous large scale default on international debt obligations could quite easily damage the Western monetary system, and the West knows it. There might be a war of course, or the threat of it, accompanied perhaps by lectures on financial morality from Washington, but would it matter when there is so little left to lose? In due course, every oppressed people comes to know that it is better to die with dignity than to live in slavery. Lenders everywhere should remember that lesson well.
by Tarek El Diwany, February 2002
dear hanan,
My niece also named hanan but I think she would understand more about the cruelty of Israelis. If you want to justify what Israel has done to the palestinians; jailed them with the concrete wall, no travel without Israel permission, no supplies, no freedom, seizing their land, demolishing their home and farms, being targeted by Israel drone at any time. And many more of oppressions being put on palestinians without they being given any right to fight back or at least to defend themselves, if they fight back that will be branded as terrorist only to see Israel drone can do the killing as they wished. The paralyzed Sheikh Yasen also did not escaped from Israel drone, being rocketed after finished the dawn prayer. Nobody would stay in Gaza to put under house arrest for 60 years. I wonder if you could stay longer than 2 weeks in Gaza without freedom and supplies. Your grandmother, your uncles and yourself also could not stand the Nazi and ran away to US, how could you blind your eyes and hearts to support the same cruelty against palestinians. No muslims realy support the Nazis however if Israelis would justify what they did to palestinians, not only muslims but other religions and races would regard hitler as their Savior against the jews.
I have read one american Jews converted to muslim because of simple reasons;
1. his looking for universal religion, that is not judaism because it is exclusive for whom who born jews. how comes god so racist creating the religion only for jews.
2. his looking for religion with one god, if so many gods what would happen if the disagreed with each other, likes Israel and Palestine? not in Hinduism and Buddhism. Meanwhile in christian there are son of god, that mean also father of god and Ruhul Qudus, there are 3 gods, that cannot be. one verses in the bible are saying messiah had sacrificed himself to clean his follower sins but in another verses messiah asking the god whether any chance for god mercies and this contradicting.
3. then he found many answers in Al Quran that have proven scientifically that impossible for human being 1450 years ago t narrate the Quran.
4. the surah Al-Ikhlas has decribed how is Allah,the only one God, the Eternal, the Aabsolute, not He begets and not He is begotten, and not for Him any equivalent.
We are neither anti jews nor supporter of hitler but if you are trying to justify the massacre and genocidal of human being palestinians, we are also have every right to justify the holocaust.
thousands good cannot justify ones wrong.
I wish to get your e-mail address so I can e-mail to you the photos of civilians being killed without provocation. so we can treat ourselves as god creation and working for peace.
My email address; [email protected]
dear friend hanan,
TQ
WRM
Dear Hanan,
When Tun M answers you, he answers with just a few sentences, brutally honest and straight to the point. not you LYING zionists, who have to go around in cirlces, and bring totally irrelevant topic, more so diverting from the question in hand. mark regev, must i say, a good liar, never be able to answer a yes or no question, instead give one hell of a bullshit story to make us forget that we are actually questioning him. just look at your stupid answer hanan, they are more and more spin to leave us of course. but those with even half a brain can see, who the perpetrator is.
1. Israel is robbing other people’s land, ie Palestinians by expanding their territories and creating more ILLEGAL settlements on Palestinian lands, and cal it Israel.
2. Israel is making the owners of the lands homeless and make them refugees living in camps.
3. Isreal is killing innocent civilians and children.
By isadarus on February 1, 2009 7:43 AM
I believe Israel Palestine conflict will continue even after our death. No end to it..forever.
I agree with Isadarus comment this conflict won’t end because you just imagine the innocent Palestinian people that were killed by the Israelis such as women, children,old man and women etc in front of their own eye.Some of them still survive but their beloved one were already dead so they won’t forget this tragedy in their whole life.They will seek revenge one day by any mean they can do.The Palestinian childrens were brought up in this such of situation with war and destruction throughout their life,so you can imagine if they grown up what will they do??? Of cause they will fight for their contry till the last drop of their blood.They won’t put these matters to rest.
You’re my man, Tun! Kita kena tahu sejarah dan asal usul kita sebelum nak berkata sesuatu mengenai bangsa kita. Ternyata Israel hanya lah bangsa yg tak tahu dek untung dan banyak menzalimi penduduk dunia dgn otak2 bijak mereka….
Assalamualaikum Tun,
Please excuse me Tun,
To dear Hanan,
We were never brainwashed to hate anyone, but you did that to yourself. You yourself have shown the whole world how GOOD AT KILLING you have been. You not only bombed using the illegal chemical phosphorous weapons but you also shot the Palestinians with bullets filled with the deadly chemical! And it acts as a time bomb once it entered the human body! Or you just refuse to believe that yours truly can be so cruel and inhumane.
And you dare still want to debate on that!
The PM of Turkey slammed your Perez at Davos right at his face and do you think he, and all the millions of people who witnessed Israeli’s atrocities, too was brainwashed? Yes, millions of people pounded you with words of anger and frustrations? Why? Only words are left as a useful tool or weapon to seek justice and peace. WE do not have the modern illegal killing machines like you do.
When our Tun decided to embark on this mission, do you think he’s looking for popularity and to be glorified? Tun has made himself an open target to all sorts of insults and humiliations too but all for a good cause and he believes, as we believe too, that he’s doing the right thing to promote peace on humanity and to open your eyes and heart to see and seek the real truth.
I see that your reply to Tun has been written politely and I thank you for that. You believe what you do is right but sometimes what you believe can be wrong, when your heart has been blinded from the truth.
Anyway what is it that you believe you have done right?
Right in believing the untruths?
You have gone through great lengths in justifying yourself, but do you not think that you are actually trying to appease yourself from the guilt and the sleepless nights from the bad dreams of slaughtered babies and children and women?
Why punished the Palestinians for the wrongdoings of the Nazis of Germany in Europe?
Why punished the Palestinians for WWI and WWII?
Why punished the Palestinians when they’ve once received you with open arms?
You want an end to the hatred? You want an end to the conflict? You want the Zionists Jews to admit their mistakes?
Why don’t you first tell that to your Olmert, your Perez, your Livni, or your Bush?
See whether they listen to you or do they want to see you or do you dare tell them in your blog (if you have one) since you’re brave enough to ‘tell’ Tun and Tun is willing to ‘see’ you and listen to you and respond to you.
Thank you and may peace be with you.
Tun, I don’t think he’s such a bad person, just a bit lost. Aren’t we sometimes Tun? May someday he finds the true path.
Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.
We are all wrong to stereotype just any races, including jews, ofcourse israilis invades gaza is wrong in all angle but doesnt means every jews in the world is the same murderer, I’ve seen jews in america protest the invasion too.
Not your usual routine
My dearest Hanan,
Refferring to your reply dated February 1, 2009, I’m pleased to inform you that now you’ve started knowing how to use you heart in evaluating the matter. I wish you may think and judge about Zionist (not Jewish), Palestine including Gaza objectively and wisely. Congratulations!
Instead of all this flaming and hate, let’s hear some constructive comments on the Israel-Palestine issues. Better to engage in an intelligent discourse on the issue than just bombarding this guy for expressing his views.
Let’s hear your (all of you) proposal to a solution to a peaceful end.
End the hate.. ya.
As you may see, the morning has broken and some people wake up and didn’t look into the mirror asking themselves what can they do in order to calm down and promote peace.
Read this:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3664761,00.html
Israel decided to ceasfire and let the Palestinians to heal their wounds and rebuild Gaza.
You may blame Israel after we may react on that but Hamas should be blamed by driving the cart to a deep gulf.
You may refer to the anger of commentators below the report. Is this the rockets intention? If yes, then we need to live on our swards forever and the peace olive boughs will wither.
Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.
I liked what SUNLEE wrote.
This was my intention when I started to comment on the Malaysian blogs including that popular one.
I wanted to have your attention to have a new way of thinking.
I’m not saying that everything Israel is doing as the most right thing. We are doing mistakes. No one is purified in justice and is making also mistakes.
The whole conflict is based on misunderstanding and mistakes.
Despite that many people are insulting me here with very humiliating words and a jargon that is not relevant to an open and civilized discussion; I’m not escaping from it and not hiding. However it is very hard for me to read all comments, I can observe the overall mood and understand it very much.
Yes, opening a new page means to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask what we have done to remove fuel from the fire. This is not just a regional Palestinian-Israeli fire. It is a fire that burns the brains and hearts of every one, Muslims, Christians, Jews or whatever the faith and race is.
I came here to establish a dialog by raising my view point of the situation and trying to open your eyes of how we see it. I got very well the impression of your standpoint. Entrenching our strongholds of our opinions is extending the gap and sharpening the knives. Every one of us should exchange his hat with the other side and try to think what wood he/she would do in the opponent
another option beside boycott them, pergi mogok kat embassy amerika tiap-tiap hari,kan senang sikit.
Kalau TUN jadi leader ,kita semua pi,ok?
salam tun
i feel like knocking the head of mesir leaders for blocking the gate to palestine…muslims are killing muslims. what’s wrong to retaliate this time around and avoid obeying the jews? aren’t these people afraid of being asked during the judgement days? what hv we been doing to help our own brothers n sisters there?
Dear Hanan,
I hope you’re reading this. It seems a great effort of yours in order to make a score in the debate. Tun Mahathir however scores a lot of points in just 2-3 sentences. That’s why his blog is so popular. He writes with facts precisely and clearly straight to the point. Maybe you can learn this from his writing.
Best, United Kingdom.
I believe Israel Palestine conflict will continue even after our death. No end to it..forever.
Dear beloved Tun and hello everyone,
I am a Malaysian, and I love my country even tho it is not perfect, it has pros and cons like all other country. I am a young man and I believe I am not as learned as you all (my bad english will testify to that…), my comment may offend some. I would like to apologise.
If we look at the world history and I believe also in some religious scriptures, etc… war has been around for ages. And it shows that war is never good. No matter who participates in it, for what so ever reason, for what so ever purpose, WAR IS NO GOOD. Innocent people die. There is no winner, everyone loses.
Will there be peace… I do not know.. God only knows. But I do not think that blaming USA, Malaysia, Palestine, Israel, etc… which ever country will make any difference. The bottom line is everyone will be blaming someone else but the one in the mirror.
Malaysian goverment must have a reason for doing what they are doing, so does the USA and Israel and the Palestine, Hana, Jew, etc…
I believe and correct me if I am wrong, the real issue will be NOT TO POINT FINGER at the usa, malaysia, israel, , palestine, iraq, etc…. and said “you are wrong”.
What we need to do is to ask EVERYONE including ourself, to look into the mirror. See how have we contributed to either starting the fire or fueling the fire or are we extinguishing the fire, or maybe we have the good intention to extingushing the fire but accidently threw fuel into the fire.
Please if we want to stop the war, first look into ourself. I know that is the hardest thing to do. Even we as an individual find that difficult, what more a country.
If we look into a good mirror we will see all the good and the bad. But too often we purposely distort the mirror to make us look good. The distorted mirror will only do more harm, as the truth will be hidden or ignored.
I believe we all believe in some form of religion, we have many in Malaysia, lets hope and pray that God will get the world leaders to look into the pure mirror that reflects the true image of themself rather then a distroted mirror.
In Malaysia our rukun negara says “To Believe In God”… Lets do that.
Thank you for reading my comment.
Good night
SunLee, Sarawak
SALAM TUN,
KITA JANGAN BOYCOT BARANG-BARANG AMERIKA ATAU ISRAEL,
KITA BAKAR BENDERA CUKUP LEE…
ITU JE YANG PALING SENANG KITA BUAT
LEPAS TU KITA BERPUISI…KITA BACA SAJAK KECAM ISRAEL
KAN ITU YANG BIASA KITA BUAT SEMENJAK DULU KALA LAGI..KAN? KAN?
Assalamualaikum,
we as the malaysian people hate those israel/jews…they should not even exist in this world in the first place…what they know is WAR and conquer….if we had the chance we would like to go Palestine and fight/kill all those israelian/jews…but as you all can see there are many malaysian are becoming like jews…and even worse some of these malaysian more cruel than israel…they throw their baby to the toilet and etc…I dont think jews in israel would do such thing…and the statistic getting worse year by year….guess what? most of us say israel are cruel…did they??
JEWS GOOD AT MANIPULATING THIER WORDS AND FACTS.. LIKE HANAN..
Dear Tun,
To ‘I love Jews’ January 28 2:03am
Of course you would be glad to give part of Malaysia to the Jews cause it is not yours anyway. Although you said you are a Malaysian, I sense you have the mentality of what the British would refer you as a “Sinkekh” or floating immigrant of Malaya in the 1900. You see these “Sinkekh” don’t owe any allegiance to the country they are staying in except for economics purposes.
You also doubt that the Texan would kill the Jews if their state were given to the Jews. For your information, a ship load of Jewish survivors of the Holocaust were denied entry to the civilized USA by the WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) and the American Jew who did not want them and that is a known fact my friend.
Those Jews were later offered a land to call their own which is Uganda but they refuse, fearing they would be label as African and would be discriminate again. But strange isn’t it the Jews in America does’nt look like a Semitic people, they look white while one of the credo of the Jews is ” The Jews don’t believe in inter marriage” I think someone in their family is lying. The other option for the shipload of survivors is Palestine which they readily accepted.
American are more civilized than Malaysian you said? Well I would like to quote from George Bernard Shaw who says ” America is the only country in the world who have move from Barbarism to Decadence without going through any Civilization” So what American civilization were you refering to? The Macdonald and Starbuck civilization?
The truth is you cant stand it when the natives here in Malaysia whom the majority are Muslims knows better than you, infact are smarter than you, breaking the Myth that says they are a stupid lot.
Dear Tun,
This is the first time I am writing in your blog.
I indeed very happy and pround to see how the whole country united in providing whatever suppport we could for Palestine. But at times I do not see the same kind of support given to all citizen of this country.
Tun, may I have comments on Kugan case.
Thank you.
Assalaamualaikum Tun,
Dear sir,
May I ask you why don
Wonder what the Malaysian Federal Government will do if, say for instance, the Pakatan Rakyat led Selangor Government decided to take back Putra Jaya? Lets say they shut of power supply and water and they blocked all entry and exit points.
I don’t wnat to conjecture on that. All that I can tell you, sir, is you just come one of these Sundays to Petaling Jaya while a small group of people stand vigil with candles. See the disproportionate presence of police, FRU and your infamous Special Branch.
The Bersih and Hindraf rallies were peaceful events. Yet they were confronted with fully armed police and FRU with water canons and so on.
Just look at Kugan. He was a lame duck already in the hands of the Police. They kicked him, whipped him, beat him and they killed him.
No sir, I am not here trying to support Israel for what happened in Gaza recently.
I am only trying to show that when we pour scorn at Israel, that its best we look at our own house first.
Israel is doing what they are doing to a sworn enemy who wants them driven out of there and in pursuit of that they shoot rockets that explode, destroy, maim and kill.
Our Police is doing what it is doing at people who call themselves Malaysians. Want to be better Malaysians. Want to be able to equally contribute to the development of Malaysia. Who want to live peacefully with their fellow Malaysians. Want to pursue happiness in their home, that is Malaysia.
In vilifying Israel, maybe a measured dose of it should suffice. We don’t want ourselves tongue tied having to explain our own conduct now, do we?
Salam Tun, Coretan saya dalam tajdid dot com bertajuk Gaza, Hamas dan Islam pun mengaitkan pakatan AS-Israel dan senjata, khususnya nuklear. Jadi bawa Israel ke ICC ke, criminalised war ke, seruan pakatan tentera Islam ke, masih belum menepati pakatan tersebut. Kita kena ada senjata baru, yg setanding dengan nuklear, baru boleh berunding. Lagi pun itulah yg dilakukan oleh Churchill di WW2 dulu. Maknanya apa yang Iran sedang lakukan mungkin bertepatan, walau pun sungguh mengerunkan.
Tapi bagi saya, hak asasi manusia yg terdapat dalam ajaran Islam perlu dicungkil dan dipertonjolkan kepada AS dgn lebih agresif lagi, agar dunia tidak terjebak dalam peperangan yg lebih besar.
Hanan,
Your reply January 30, 2009, proves to me that you are so naive and just like a robot! Your knowledge just based on censored text books and media provided by your zionist. Your zionist text books and media have succesfully produced “robots” who can see, listen and talk, like yourself. You may talk about brain and heart but, without you realise, actualy you do not understand what both are all about. You will disagree with me because you’ve been created to be like that like a “robot” by your own zionist that you’re proud of. Of course it’s good for your zionist or species, but is laughed and sorried by people who use brain and heart objectively. My advise, you’d better learn more before you yourself putting down your jews or your zionist that you’re really proud of. The best friend is your own enemy!
Tun,
I know that you’d love to educate people, but is it worth to educate Hanan and his species who’re only “robots” and worse than naive persons?
Wassalam.
Sir,
Allow me to respond to artkawi:
My dear artkawi, from the bottom of my heart I do not condone the Israelis action in Gaza. The Jews are major badasses. The people in Israel today are not the ones God promised the land to. They are impostors. The Palestinians are the rightful owners of the land. My opinion is based on practicalities. How to get the Jews out? Will USA accept them? Where will they go? So, that is why I say the Palestinians must enter into negotiations with the Israelis. They got to be wise in dealing with these Jews. Israel is more than 60 years old. That is a long time. We are only 51 years old by comparison. I do not wish to argue with you. I agree with your point of view. Shalom my friend.
Izinkan Tun…
Saya bantah sekeras-kerasnya RobinLabu61 artikel Dr.Stephen Carr Leon tentang kebijaksanaan orang-orang Yahudi!!
Cuba bandingkan ?kehebatan? mereka dengan kehebatan yang sebenar orang-orang mukmin…
1) Pertama orang-orang mukmin itu melihat dengan Nur Allah.Lihat apa yang telah di beritahu oleh Imam Ghazali dalam Ihya Ulumuddin.
“Sesiapa yang tidak dapat melihat dengan mata hati maka tiadalah iman pada mereka melainkan pada kulitnya sahaja.”
Hadith Rasullulah s.a.w. ” Berhati-hati dengan firasat orang-orang mukmin kerana mereka melihat dengan Nur Allah “..
Jadi apakah kehebatan melihat dengan Nur Allah ini?..sama lah dengan apa yang di jelaskan oleh Imam Ghazali..Orang bertanya nikmat persetubuhan..bagaimanalah dapat di terangkan nikmat persetubuhan kepada mereka yang tidak melakukannya..samalah bagaimana di ceritakan nikmat warna kepada orang buta azali ?
Hanya mereka yang mukmin sahaja mampu menerangkan kehebatan ini!!
2) Keajaiban amalan orang-orang mukmin.Lihat ketika Nabi Sulaiman a.s bertanya para Jin..”Siapa yang mampu membawa Istana Balqis ke sini?” Kata Ifrit yang kuat..Aku mampu membawanya sebelum tuan bangkit dari duduk.”Berkata pula orang yang mendapat ilmu dari kitab ( Asif Al Barkhiya ) Aku mampu membawanya sebelum tuan mengerdipkan mata”…Maka nerdirilah Istana Balqis di sana..
Apakah tuan-tuan menyangka kisah ini hanya berlaku di zaman dahulu sahaja?.. Ia mampu di lakukan oleh orang-orang mukmin di zaman moden juga dengan beberapa keaadan tertentu..
3) Terlalu ramai orang jahil mempertikaikan kebenaran Mikraj Rasullulah s.a.w..oleh itu seorang ulamak menguji seorang khalifah tentang keajaiban masa…Masukkan kepala tuan ke dalam baldi ini..Maka khalifah memasukkan kepalanya ke dalam baldi..Tiba-tiba khalifah terdampar di luar istananya dan mnderita selama 7 tahun..Bila ia mengangkat kepalanya dari baldi dengan marah untuk menghukum ulamak itu maka dia dapati dia hanya merendam kepalanya di dalam baldi beberapa minit sahaja!!!
4)Tentera Rusia yang menangkap seorang Mujahideen bertanya..Bagaimana kamu akan memerangi kami yang lengkap dengan persenjataan ini? ( analogically reffered to Israel and Palestinian ) Mujahideen itu sembahyang sunat 2 rakaat dan berkata..Tengok ini…dia mengambil segenggam pasir dan menaburnya pada kereta kebal Russia tersebut..kereta kebal itu terbakar..
5)”Tidak menyentuhnya ( AL QURAN ) melainkan hambaNya yang di sucikan..Di turunkan oleh Tuhan Sekalian Alam.Apakah kamu memandang hina bacaannya?”
Quran Surah Al Waqiah.
Hafiz-hafiz AL Quran yang tulin dan sejati memiliki kehebatan yang amat ketara sekali.Hal ini pernah di tanyakan oleh para sahabat kepada Rasullulah s.a.w.Maka jawab Baginda:
“Ketetapan yang pertama ( ajal mubram ) tidak akan di ubah oleh ketetapan yang kedua ( ajal muallaq )melainkan dalam keadaan yang istimewa…dan hal ini jarang terjadi…”
Sebab itu para mujahidden Ikhwanul Muslimin mampu meranduk ( ya meranduk ) Laut Merah bila mereka menyerang tentera Israel dahulu..
Kesemua hal yang ajaib ini memang jarang tetapi ia maunah Allah untuk orang-orang mukmin..
Kehebatan Yahudi ??
Kurap sahaja jika di bandingkan dengan orang-orang mukmin yang sejati!!!!!!!
salam Tun,
To Shalom from Hannan,
There is no need for you to justify your race in long-winded articles.
YOU ARE KILLERS (PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH)… AND YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IN PEACE FOR THE UNTOLD DAMAGE AND SUFFERINGS YOU HAVE INFLICTED ON THE PALESTINIANS.
HEIL THE NEW NAZIS!CONGRATULATIONS IN MAKING THE WORLD WHAT IT IS TODAY!YOU ARE THE MAIN ROOT CAUSE!
Jeng3
Salam Tun,
Boleh Tun bagi komen tentang artikel berkaitan kemungkinan Nusantara menjadi sasaran Yahudi seperti dlm artikel ini?
http://mistisfiles.blogspot.com/2009/01/temubual-sempena-serangan-israel-ke.html
tun,
since u are not PM of Malaysia, pls write all out to them, more critically,bash them-jewish with your writing, and no jewish will condemn malaysia for that as they did when u are in PM seat before,
go tun!
we push u again in front line of blogging jihad!
Tun,
Indeed we are using Israeli engineered software. Perhaps that is why you have talked about Open Source as an alternative when you were in Government. But after you left, there aren’t much leadership on this matter.
Due to inspiration from you, I myself as a 28 years long IT person from COBOL days to now Java, has been leading a worldwide Open Source ERP Project called ADempiere. However it has not received any substantial high level government support or even interest.
Sadly due to the strength of more followers in Germany, our HeqdQuarters is now in Berlin. I hope that when your son Mukrhiz moves up that he can remember your cause and restore more IP and innovation back into this country. We do have geniuses. But alas, in the wrong places.
Redhuan D. Oon
PendAtang Dengan Izin
salam tun,
SALUTE ERDOGAN
SALUTE ERDOGAN
SALUTE ERDOGAN, MAY ALLAH BLESS U
WE IN MALAYSIA SHOULD DEMONSTRATE ON THE STREET SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR HIM, AND SAY TO THOSE DUMB ARAB NEIGHBOURS THAT THEY ARE COWARD, USELESS
PAK LAH, WHAT U SHOULD DO IS TO VISIT ERDOGAN, GIVE HIM MORAL SUPPORT, CUCUK SIKIT JIKA PERLU, TOLONGLAH…..BUKA SIKIT MATA DAN MINDA.
p/s
DR M, IF YOU IN TOUCH WITH MR ERDOGAN PLEASE SEND REGARD FOR HIM, FROM ME RAKYAT MALAYSIA.
IF PEOPLE ASK ME WHO IS MUSLIM LEADER WHAT CROSS IN MY MIND ARE……DR MAHATHIR, MR. AHMEDINEJAD AND NOW…MR ERDOGAN TOO
Assalamualaikum Tun Yang Amat Dihormati,
1.Well said,sir.
2.Sometimes I feel that we have an ‘invisible PM’in Malaysia.
WHERE ARE YOU PAK LAH????
May Allah bless you and Tun Siti Hasmah.
Good morning and salam Tun,
Shalom from Hanan’s comment shows that Israel enjoys in controlling everyone by proxy including Dr Mahathir Mohamad. However brains alone without a heart (feelings) can produce a monster, brains that are bought are only a ‘short-termed gain” and can be destroyed easily if that particular country goes bankrupt in terms of trust, humanity, love and justice.
To Israel, USA and Britain, war means money making. In the past, this theory worked, today, it will not work anymore because of Microsoft and internet. Israel and these 2 countries have made the world an insecure place to live and invest in. Terrorism will be escalated, many of the jew big corporations and investment banks will be killed (or minimized) caused by their self-accumulated greed and hatred outside Israel. Israel is escalating her own enemy net, and they are frightened and insecure that history will repeat itself . If Israel does not stop conquering more Palestine land by force (bomb), history will be repeated.
I think Israel may be wiped out by the crooked politicians (could be majority of them are jews themselves)of USA and Britain and they will use the same strategy learned from Israel’s crooked politicians, that’s why the world is full of “copycats”. Only insecure people will claim that they are powerful, Shalom from Hanan is indeed fightened and insecure. Shalom does not have to be a bit excited and over confident for down-grading Dr Mahathir Mohamad and what Israel has gained today. What Israel gained today may bring more disastrous consequences tomorrow to the people living in Israel and Palestine for trusting USA and Britain. We have learned hard these lessons during cold wars, 1997 and 2008.
Yes, Tun, even Malaysia is manipulated by Jews. However, we are not uncivilized and cruel like Shalom’s mentalitity. We are not attacking the US and Israel because we don’t have to go into war to survive in Asia.
Tun, we should check very well among our government ministers and officials and we will find the Trojan horses there. I think those current and hopping politicians have inherited this Shalom’s mentality whereby money and power are more important than religion, country, family and people because they want to be more superior than Tun, and they do not want to be a puppet to Tun.
I don’t hate Israelis, but I hate the top guns in Israel using their power to kill the innocent lives of muslim and jew. My displeasure is not political, but more to mankind and justice. We are just rising to the modern era of humanity and justice. However, I feel very sorry for Israel and Palestine people because they are focred and drove into the sinking modern era of darkness created by the crooked and greedy politicians.
Good day Tun.
From,
Red Tanglung Gal, Malaysia.
P/S:
//By hairul on January 27, 2009 7:04 PM//
1) Malaysia Boleh Jadi Hebat Macam Israel.
2) Bukankah baik kalau kita belajar bahasa Israel?
Hi Hairul,
Jika anda mempunyai pemikiran ini, anda juga seorang “Shalom”. Di sebuah negara yang berbilang kaum, “moderation” is the best attitute to make our country stronger, peaceful and “pepaduan”. We are taught to respect and tolerate other races for 51 years. Kalau kita nak anti-jews, the best strategi adalah Rukun Negara dan model Mahathirsm.
Salam Ayahanda Tun.
NST HEADLINE JANUARY 31 2009:
Malaysia Airports will build low-cost terminal
(THE STATEMENT OF TRUTH AS IS)
PUTRAJAYA: The proposed RM1.6 billion low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) project in Labu by AirAsia Berhad is as good as off.
This followed reservations raised at a meeting yesterday attended by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and AirAsia chief executive officer Datuk Tony Fernandes, sources said. The meeting, which lasted about an hour, was also attended by representatives from Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad and senior officials from the Transport Ministry, Economic Planning Unit in the Prime Minister’s Department and the Finance Ministry. “Malaysia Airports will build a new LCCT near the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) in Sepang but they will have to work closely with AirAsia,” said a source. “The company’s input in the building of the new terminal will have to be taken into consideration.” The source also said the government felt that AirAsia would not be able to raise the funds to develop the airport that it had earlier proposed in Labu, Negri Sembilan. Ong said an official decision would be announced in two to three weeks’ time as it involved many parties. “The Transport Ministry, EPU, Finance Ministry, Malaysia Airports and AirAsia are meeting for the good of all parties concerned,” he told Bernama. Sources said AirAsia had been given two weeks to provide its wish list, now that Malaysia Airports would be building a permanent LCCT at KLIA. AirAsia would have follow-up meetings with Malaysia Airports and a final meeting with Najib in two weeks, they added. Among the issues that will be discussed between AirAsia and Malaysia Airports are the specifications for the new LCCT and the passenger service charge. (END OF THE REAL TRUTH STATEMENT)
(REINSTATING FACTS TO THE MATTER – DONE WITH A PURPOSE)
It was reported on Jan 5, that conglomerate Sime Darby Berhad had obtained the cabinet’s approval to proceed with its proposed airport on its land in Labu, or KLIA-East, 22km from KLIA. (END OF THE PARTICULAR FACT)
(SPIN DOCTORS ATTEMPT AT SPINNING)
However, Najib said recently that the government was rethinking its earlier decision. The government, he said, was still looking at the proposal and there was no formal decision yet. Najib had also said that the proposal would have to be studied from all angles as the government needed to verify whether it could go ahead with it or a different arrangement was required. AirAsia, in a statement released recently, had said it was looking forward to presenting Najib a detailed brief on KLIA-East and its plans to make Kuala Lumpur the regional hub for low-cost carriers. “Since the cabinet’s approval of Central Malaysian Vision Valley project, of which the KLIA-East LCCT is a vital component, AirAsia and Sime Darby have been in negotiations to finalise the details.”
The budget airline had also said it had received numerous enquiries from domestic and international investors interested in the project. The proposed airport in Labu would be AirAsia’s answer to its fear that Malaysia Airports would be unable to build a new permanent terminal in time to support its passenger and aircraft growth.
(END OF SPINNING).
-Reading the New Straits Time while Kali is boss (5 months post dated resignation note) requires a fine art. Requires sharp mind and focus eyes. The sway steps in on the easy beat side, and you would just keep on reading not knowing what or which the truth is.
And kudos to Datuk Seri Najib.
Dedicated to Hanan and alike,
Saturday January 24, 2009
Kids
teruskan usaha menentang kekejaman yahudi israel dan konco konconya.
Assalamualaikum Tun,
The Palestinian issue has and will always be an Islamic issue. Whatever happens to the them it is of great concern to the Muslim world.
It is good that Mr. Obama wants to make friends with the Muslim world. But as you have rightly pointed out, he is surrounded by Jews or Jews controlled politicians. The Jews influence is very strong in American politics.
Therefore, we cannot and should not rely the fate of the Palestinian or Muslim world on Mr. Obama. It is we, the Muslim world who must change our fate.
You have outlined some strategies, among them, boycotting US and Israel products. In is not so of having an impact on their economy, but more of expressing our disgust on the actions by the US and Israel.
I think the Palestinian issue will and always will be an Islamic issue. They are our Muslim brothers and sisters. It is our duty to protect them and help them.
We cannot rely on Mr. Obama or the UN on this matter. It is up to us, the Muslim nations. All Muslim nations must protect the people of Palestine.
We know from previous engagements with Israel, boycotting them, raising UN resolutions one after another does not work in Israel. Mere rhetoric by Islamic nation leaders also don’t work. Israel will and shall continue to attack Palestine.
Therefore, I would like to suggest that under OIC, Malaysia and other Islamic nations provide peacekeeping military to Palestine. It will be similar to the UN peacekeepers but under the OIC banner. Islamic nations that are strong enough can provide the army. I can name Malaysia, Indonesia, Iran, Syria, and Egypt. For cash and funding will be contributed by Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.
This is a way so that Israel will think twice to attack Palastine. In future, an attack to Palastine is the same as if attacking the whole Islamic world. We will take responsiblity on the security of Palastine. Any diplomatic issues, will be handled by the Islamic world on behalf of the Palastinie.
Having ensured the security of Palestine from future attacks, it is up to the rich Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to provide funding to build schools, hospitals, roads, etc,etc. Hamas must stop its attacks on Israel, at least for now. The whole aim is to make Palestine strong as a nation. Even stronger than Israel. If the US are able to make Israel strong, I don’t see why the combined effort of the Islamic world cannot make Palestine strong also.
There should be a time frame for this.
When Palestine is strong enough, then they will be able to draw their own future. We will help all that we can. Its time we put an end to Israel arrogance and aggression.
Assalamualaikum,wbt Tun Mahathir,
This is the most touched and memorable statement you have made, saya sangat terharu dan sedih. Terharu kerana Tun menyedarkan lagi kami yang sering dibuai kesenangan hingga lupakan rakyat asing yang sengsara. Sedih kerana belum ada lagi manusia lain yang sanggup dan berani bersuara seperti Tun.
Kembalilah semula menjadi pemimpin kami sehingga akhir hayat Tun.
Salam sayang dan hormat kepada mantan pemimpin kami.
Hanan,
You are so concern about the daily 50 rockets launch into Israil town, what about the daily blockage of food, medicine, daily needs, months before the January war, you don’t even want to mention it in your reply to TUN. That justified not 50 rockets but 5000 rockets to be shot into Israel daily.
Hardy
Assalamualikum, dan Salam Sejahtera
1. Kita terpanggil untuk melancarkan kempen memboikot barangan Israel dan Amerika atas dasar kekejaman mereka.
2. Saya berpendapat, BERINTERAKSI DENGAN YAHUDI PON HARUS DIBOIKOT. Tulisan-tulisan orang yahudi dan amerika ke dalam blog ini boleh dibaca secara umum. Mereka tidak akan bersetuju dilabelkan sebagai penjenayah atas sebab-sebab yang biasa dimanipulasikan.
3. Pada pendapat saya, Tun mungkin boleh menafikan tulisan mereka dari disiarkan di blog Tun. Mereka menulis berdasarkan kepentingan bangsa mereka, memanipulasi fakta sejarah dan undang-undang. Kalau tidak silap pun ada pendapat orang bijak pandai, berilmu menyatakan supaya tidak berinteraksi langsung dengan mereka. Saya berpendapat Yahudia tidak akan menerima alasan dan buah fikiran orang lain sebab agenda mereka sudahpun ditetapkan … kekejaman dan penindasan akan berterusan walaupun dengan kutukkan antarabangsa.
AZHAR MD.NOH
Salam YAB Tun,
Suka saya panjangkan untuk tatapan dan renungan sekalian.
Mengapa Yahudi bijak?
Menemui saudara ku sekelian, baru baru ini sekali lagi Yahudi bermaharja lela membantai penduduk Gaza, tanpa merasa belas kasihan, ini dapat difahami kerana bagi kaum Yahudi, Palestin adalah negeri mereka, walaupon dari segi sejarah, memang mereka tahu, Israel memang bukan milik mereka yg mutlak, terima kasih kepada kerajaan British yg. memberi mereka penempatan selepas dihalau oleh Hitler pada perang dunia kedua. Tak perlulah saya mengulang lagi peri laku kaum Yahudi yang sekian lama di halau oleh umat manusia dari zaman Firaun lagi, berjuta juta kaum Yahudi telah dibunuh, tiada suatu bangsa didunia ini yang dibunuh begitu ramai dimuka bumi ini dan kini telah muncul pula di Amerika,kumpulan anti Yahudi , kerana mereka (pribumi Amerika)telah mulai sedar yang mereka telah menjadi hamba dibawah telunjuk Yahudi (Proxy) Hanya masa akan menentukan peledakan dimana kaum Yahudi pula akan menemui penghalauan beramai ramai keluar dari bumi Amerika, mustahil? Jika anda lihat sejarah, tiada apa yang mustahil akan berlaku terhadap kaum Yahudi.
Setelah memantau beberapa lelaman web saya ada terbaca tesis mengenai kaum Yahudi dan saya tertarik untuk membaca dan menterjemahkanya ke bahasa Melayu, semuga ianya dapat memberi menafaat kepada kita dan jenerasi mendatang. Janganlah kida dok mengutuk kaum Yahudi terus terusan, sedang badan dunia (UN) tak dapat melakukan sesuatu. Pembantaian secara zalim diGaza akan segera dilupakan tanpa satu pon general tentera Israil dibawa kepengadilan (sila lihat sejarah UN) maka itu kaum Yahudi bertambah bongkak, tujuan mereka hanyalah melemahkan kaum Arab disekeliling mereka.
Tesis itu bertajuk “Why the jews so smart” suka cita saya alih bahasakanya secara rengkas. Setelah membaca tesis itu, ianya dapat mengubah cara diet saya, semuga pasangan muda dapat mengamalkanya demi melahirkan jenerasi yg baik.
Hakim Ma’ruf Bin Hj Abdul Kadir
Universiti Massachuset
USA.
Mengapa Yahudi Bijak?
Setelah berada 3 tahun di Israel kerana menjalani housemanship dibeberapa hospital disana, ada beberapa perkara yang menarik dapat saya perhatikan untuk dijadikan tesis ini, iaitu “Mengapa Yahudi Bijak?”. Memang tidak dapat dinafikan ramai cendikiawan berbangsa Yahudi, dari segala bidang, Engineering, musik, saintis dan yang paling hebat ialah bidang perniagaan, dimana ia memang paling tersohor. Hampir 70% perniagaan di dunia dikuasai oleh kaum Yahudi, dari kosmetik, pakaian, pemakanan, senjata, perhotelan, perfileman diHollywood dan sebagainya.
Ketika tahun kedua, akhir bulan December 1980 dan sedang saya menghitung hari untuk pulang ke California saya terfikir apakah sebab nya kaum Yahudi begitu pintar? Kenapa tuhan memberi kelebihan kepada mereka? Apakah ini suatu kebetulan? Atau olah manusia sendiri? Adakah bijak boleh dijana? Seperti kilang pengeluaran?
Maka saya pon tergerak membuat tesis untuk Phd saya, disamping kebaikan untuk umat sejagat dan dapat hidup secara harmoni. Untuk pengetahuan anda tesis yang saya lakukan ini mengambil masa hampir lapan tahun, ini kerana untuk mengumpulkan data-data yang setepat mungkin.
Antara data-data yang saya kumpulkan ialah pemakanan, adat resam, ugama, persiapan awal untuk melahirkan zuriat dan sebagainya dan data data tadi saya cuba bandingkan dengan bangsa dan kaum kaum lain.
Marilah kita mulakan dengan persiapan awal melahirkan zuriat. Di Israel, setelah mengetahui yang sang ibu sedang mengandung, pertama kali saya perhatikan ialah, sang ibu akan sering menyanyi dan bermain piano dan si ibu dan bapa akan membeli buku metamatik dan menyelesaikan masalah metamatik bersama suami, saya sungguh hairan kerana teman saya yang mengandung sering membawa buku metamatik dan bertanya kepada saya beberapa soalan yang beliau tak dapat menyelesaikanya, oleh kerana saya memang minat tentang metamatik, tentu saja dengan senang saya bantu beliau. Saya bertanya kepada beliau, adakah ini untuk anak kamu? Beliau menjawab, “ia, ini untuk anak saya yang masih didalam kandungan, saya sedang melatih otak beliau, semuga ia menjadi genius apabila dewasa kelak” Perkara ini membuat saya tertarik untuk mengikut perkembangan beliau seterusnya. Berbalik kepada metamatik tadi, tanpa merasa jenoh beliau membuat latihan metamatik sehingga beliau melahirkan anak.
Seperkara lagi yang saya perhatikan ialah pemakanan beliau, sejak awal mengandung beliau gemar sekali memakan kacang badam dan korma bersama susu , dan untuk tengah hari makan utama beliau ialah roti dan ikan tanpa kepala bersama salad yang digaul dengan badam dan berbagai jenis kekacang, menurut beliau daging ikan sungguh baik untuk perkembangan otak dan kepala ikan mengandungi kimia yang tidak baik yang dapat merosakkan pengembangan dan penumbuhan otak anak didalam kandungan. menurut beliau ini adalah adat orang orang yahudi ketika mengandung dan ianya menjadi semacam kewajipan untuk ibu ibu yang sedang mengandung mengambil pil minyak ikan.
Ketika saya diundang untuk makan malam bersama orang orang Yahudi, perkara pertama yang saya perhatikan ialah menu mereka. Setiap undangan yg sama perhatikan ialah mereka gemar sekali memakan ikan (hanya isi atau fillet) dan biasanya daging tidak akan ada bersama dimeja jika ada ikan, menurut mereka, campuran daging dan ikan tak elok dimakan bersama. Salad dan kacang adalah suatu kemestian, terutama badam. Seperkara yang pelik ialah mereka akan memakan buah buahan dahulu sebelum memakan hidangan utama. Jangan terperanjat jika anda diundang kerumah Yahudi anda akan dihidangkan buah buahan dahulu. Menurut mereka, dengan memakan hidangan kabohidrat (nasi atau roti) dahulu kemudian buah buahan, ini akan menyebabkan kita merasa ngantuk dan lemah dan payah untuk memahami pelajaran disekolah.
Di Israel, merokok adalah taboo, apabila anda diundang makan dirumah Yahudi, jangan sekali kali merokok, dan tanpa malu mereka akan menyuruh anda keluar dari rumah mereka dam merokok diluar rumah mereka. Menurut saintis di Universiti Israel, siasatan menunjukkan nikotin dapat merosakkan sel utama pada otak manusia dan akan melekat pada genes, ini bermakna keturunan perokok bakal membawa generasi yg cacat otak ( bodoh atau lembab). Suatu penemuan yg dahsyat ditemui oleh saintis yg mendalami bidang genes dan DNA. Para perokok harap ambil perhatian. (Ironi nya, pemilik pengeluar rokok terbesar adalah …… tekalah sendiri..!)
Perhatian saya selanjutnya ialah melawati tadika mereka, Pemakanan anak anak tadi cukup dikawal, makanan awal ialah buah buahan bersama kacang badam, diikuti dengan menelan pil minyak ikan (code oil lever) Didalam pengamatan saya, kanak Yahudi sungguh bijak dan rata rata mereka memahami 3 bahasa iaitu Hebrew, Arab dan Inggeris dan sedari awal lagi mereka telah dilatih bermain piano dan violin, ini adalah suatu kewajipan. Menurut mereka bermain musik dan memahami nota notanya dapat meningkatkan lagi IQ kanak kanak dan sudah tentu bakal menjadikan budak itu bijak.
Ini menurut saintis Yahudi, gegaran musik dapat stimulate (semacam senaman untuk otak) maka itu terdapat ramai sekali genius musik terdiri dari kaum Yahudi.
Seterusnya ke darjah 1 hingga 6, anak anak Yahudi akan diajar metamatik berkonsepkan perniagaan dan pelajaran sains amatlah diberi keutamaan. Di dalam perhatian peribadi saya, perbandingan dengan anak anak di California, ianya jauh berbeza tentang IQ dan boleh saya katakan 6 tahun kebelakang!!!. Segala pelajaran akan dengan mudah di tangkap oleh anak Yahudi. Selain dari pelajaran tadi sukan juga menjadi kewajipan bagi mereka dan sukan yg diberi keutamaan ialah memanah, menembak dan berlari, menurut teman saya ini, memanah dan menembak dapat melatih otak mem fokus sesuatu perkara disamping mempermudahkan persiapan untuk perhidmatan negara.
Selanjutnya pemerhatian saya menuju ke sekolah tinggi (menengah) disini murid murid ditekan dengan pelajaran mata sains dan mereka digalakkan mencipta produk, segala projek mereka walaupon kadangkala kelihatannya lucu dan mengarut, tetap diteliti dengan serius apatah lagi ianya berupa senjata, perubatan dan engineering, idea itu akan dibawa ke institute tinggi di Politeknik dan Universiti.
Satu lagi yg di beri keutamaan ialah fakulti perniagaan. Saya sungguh terperanjat melihat mereka begitu agresif dan seriusnya mereka tentang perniagaan. Diakhir tahun diuniversiti, para penuntut dibidang niaga dikehendaki melakukan projek dan memperaktik kanya dan anda hanya akan lulus jika kumpulan anda(10 pelajar setiap kumpulan) dapat keuntungan sebanyak $US1juta! Anda terperanjat? Itulah kenyataan, dengan rangkaian seluruh dunia dan ditaja sepenuhnya oleh syarikat milik Yahudi, maka tidak hairanlah mereka dapat menguasai ½ perniagaan didunia! Siapakah yg mencipta design Levis yg terkini? Ianya dicipta di Universiti Israel oleh fakulti bisnes dan fesyen.
Pernahkah anda melihat cara orang Yahudi melakukan ibadah mereka? Salah satu caranya ialah dengan menggoyangkan kepala mereka, menurut mereka ini dapat mengaktifkan otak mereka dan menambahkan oksijan dikepala, banyak ugama lain di Timur Tengah, seperti Islam juga ada menyuruh umatnya menunduk atau menggoyangkan kepala, ini guna dapat mensimulasikan otak kita supaya bertambah aktif. Lihat orang orang Jepun, mereka sering menunduk nundukkan kepala dan ianya sebagai adat. Ramai orang orang Jepun yg pandai? Adakah ianya sebagai kebetulan? Kegemaran mereka ialah sushi (ikan mentah). Adakah ini kebetulan? Fikirkanlah!
Berpusat di New York, Dewan perniagaan Yahudi bersedia membantu mereka yg berminat untuk melakukan bisnes (sudah tentu untuk Yahudi sahaja) jika mereka ada idea yg bernas, jawatan kuasa akan memberi pinjaman tanpa faedah dan pentadbir dari jawatan kuasa tadi akan bekerjasama dengan anda untuk memastikan yg perniagaan mereka menurut landasan yg betul. Maka itu lahirlah Starbuck, Dell comptr, Cocacola, DKNY, Oracle, Perfileman di Hollywood, Levis, Dunkin Donut dan ada beratus kedai ternama dibawah naungan dewan perniagaan Yahudi di New York. Graduan Yahudi dari fakulti perubatan New York akan disarankan untuk mendaftar dipersatuan ini dan digalakkan memulakan klinik mereka sendiri dengan bantuan wang tanpa faedah, barulah saya tahu mengapa hospital di New York dan California sentiasa kekurangan doktor pakar.
Kesimpulanya, pada teori saya, melahirkan anak dan keturunan yg bijak boleh dilaksanakan dan tentunya bukan semalaman, ianya memerlukan masa, beberapa jenerasi mungkin? Persiapan awal adalah ketika sang ibu mengandung, galakkanlah siibu melakukan latihan metamatik yg mudah tetapi konsisten disamping mendengar musik klasik. Seterusnya ubahlah cara pemakanan, makanlah makanan yg elok dan berhasiat yg baik untuk otak, menghayati musik sejak kecil adalah baik sekali untuk penumbuhan otak kanak kanak, dengan bermain piano dan violin sudah tentu dapat melatih anak anak mencerdaskan otak mereka demikian juga sukan yg memerlukan konsetrasi yg tinggi, seperti memanah, bola keranjang, dart dan menembak.
Merokok menjanjikan jenerasi yg moron (goblok) dan sudah tentu genes bodoh akan mengikut ke jenerasi siperokok. Lawatan saya ke Singapore pada tahun 2005 amat memeranjatkan sekali, disini perokok seperti dianak tirikan dan begitu susah sekali untuk perokok dan anda tahu berapa harga sekotak rokok? US$ 7 !!! ini bersamaan perbelanjaan sehari untuk makan anda!! Saya puji sekali sikap pemerintah Singapore dan menkjubkan sekali!!! dan seperti Israel ianya begitu taboo dan cara pentadbiran dan segi pembelajaran mereka hampir serupa dengan Israel, maka itu saya lihat banyak institusi pelajaran mereka bertaraf dunia walaupon hakikat nya negeri Singapore hanyalah sebuah pulau sebesar Manhattan!!
Anda mungkin muskil, benarkah merokok dapat melahirkan jenerasi goblok, saya telah menemui beberapa bukti menyokong teori ini. Lihat saja Indonesia, jika anda ke Jakarta, dimana saja anda berada, dari restoran, teater, kebun bunga hingga kemusium hidung anda akan segera terbau asak rokok! Dan harga rokok? Cuma US$ .70cts !!! dan hasilnya? Dengan penduduknya berjumlah jutaan orang berapa banyak kah universiti terdapat disana? Hasil apakah yg dapat dibanggakan? Teknologi? Jauh sekali. Adakah mereka dapat berbahasa selain dari bahasa mereka sendiri? Mengapa mereka begitu sukar sekali menguasai bahasa Inggeris? Ditangga berapakah kedudukan mereka di pertandingan metamatik sedunia? Adakah ini bukan akibat merokok? Anda fikirlah sendiri.
Di tesis saya ini, saya tidak akan menimbulkan soal ugama atau bangsa, adakah Yahudi itu zalim sehingga diusir dari semenjak zaman Paraoh hingga ke Hitler, bagi saya itu isu politik dan survival, yg ingin saya ketengahkan ialah, mampu kah kita dapat melahirkan jenerasi yg bijak seperti Yahudi? Jawabanya ialah mungkin dan tidak mustahil dan ianya memerlukan perubahan, dari segi pemakanan dan cara mendididik anak dan saya kira hanya memerlukan 3 jenerasi sahaja. Ini dapat saya lihat sendiri tentang cucu saya, ini setelah saya mengajar anak saya melalui program yg telah saya nyatakan diatas tadi, pada umur 9 tahun (cucu saya) dia dapat menulis esay sepanjang 5 mukasurat penuh. Esay nya hanyalah mengenai Mengapa saya gemarkan tomato!
Selamat sejahtera dan semuga kita dapat melahirkan manusia yg bijak dan bersifat mulia untuk kebaikan manusia sejagat tanpa mengenal batasan bangsa.
Dr. Stephen Carr Leon
salam alaikom Tun dan Tun.
Sometimes I wonder.. why can’t we put it into our head, that Israel is not at all interested in any peace process. even if they did sign any treaty towards peace, they will provoke and make life difficult not only to the palestinians.. but also the rest of the world.look at how the US of A conjured up a few hundred trillion… do they really have that money or the means to pay it back? not once but twice money was created to make more money, any end? no end in sight
Assalamualaikum Tun,
this might not be relevant to the title of the article. Since I do not know how to communicate with you so I am just trying my luck through your blog. I have been reading a book by John Perkins entitled “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”. My first impression of the book is that it’s mind boggling and an eye opener for me since there are information which I did not know before. I believed a man of your status have read the book as well. However, I just wanted to know your opinion is the information given in the book accurate or the author just created the characters and names so that he could sold his book and reward him handsomely? The things he said about Indonesia, Panama and the House of Saud, did it really happened? I know for a fact that Indonesia up to date still in financial turmoil especially after the recession back in 1997 when they borrowed money from IMF.I sincerely would like to know from a person who know things that most common people like me do not know? It somehow reflected on what you have said about globalization that it only do good for developed countries but not for poor countries especially countries in the 3rd world.
If the information was true then don’t you think countries like Indonesia will never going to be financially recovered and will become forever slave to the U.S.? Saudi Arabia will be an ally to the U.S. and therefore most of the Muslim world will always not going to be united?
Hopefully you can share some knowledge and enlightened me with regards to this matter. I thank you in advance and I appreciate your kind response.
Wassalam
Fadly J.D.
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Salam Tun,
Your letter to Hanan was spot on. After looking through how the USA and Israel thumbed their noses to the world, I can only believe that the Islamic world has to initiate or at least continue to develop their/our own nuclear capability (yes, I mean nuclear bombs and similar weapons) or other kinds of weapons to protect ourselves. It is obvious that when a country does NOT have WMDs, the USA attacked it (like Iraq). When a country openly stated that it has nuclear bombs and would not even hesitate to use it (like North Korea), the great US of A just produced a whimper. So what did that tell us? A country may as well have a nuclear capability/ powerful weapons to “deter” the US of A and the illegal country called Israel from showing off their powers.
I hate WMDs and all those weapons but sometimes it is worth to develop these weapons just to show to USA and Israel not to mess around or bully the Islamic countries. I believe Iran is doing the right thing – it has developed its own nuclear capability and other weapons (that’s why USA and Israel are so terrified of Iran).
I think the Islamic nations should learn from Iran and Pakistan (and I hope Iran and Pakistan would be willing to share their technologies with other Islamic countries) on how to develop new weapons. Yes, if the Islamic countries would have their own nuclear capability or similar weapons, the Western countries would usually say that the Islamic countries are not much different from the “warlike” countries of USA and Israel. But it sure beats getting killed without any means of defending oneself as in the case of Gaza. Funny isn’t it? In Gaza, you got killed when you did not have weapons and you still got killed when you have one. Well, the answer is obvious – you may as well have weapons and fight all the way – at least you die fighting.
It is time the Islamic countries come together and develop the weapons of mass destruction and aim it(not to use it as yet but as a means of deterence) to USA and Israel – it is the only language these countries understand.
Yg Bhg Tun,
Usah rasa rendah diri sebab setiap penemuan dan pembangunan oleh Yahudi disumbangkan juga oleh negara Islam.
Untuk menggerakkan kereta Bill Gates, minyak Arab juga yang dipamkan ke dalam keretanya. Kalau tak, Gates tu jalan kaki la.
Nak harapkan minyak Teluk Mexico, sepertiga orang Amerika kena kayuh basikal atau naik kuda.
Malah saya penuh yakin Hanan juga menggunakan minyak Arab bagi kegunaan hariannya. Mampukah dia menafikan membuta-tuli sumbangan ini..?
Jadi, kesejagatan membawa maksud pengkongsian – tetapi Zionis hanya faham perampasan dan dimilik-bangsakan oleh mereka.
Jadi, apa nak heran yang Hanan bangga-banggakan tu.
Salam.
To Chris :
I shout to you not because you a deaf…but you so ignorance and don’t want to listen.that the problem..learn the history and know your root. Learn the history of Israel.. I don’t need to listen to Israel/Jewish side of story…because they will talk rubbish..that their atitude..it is in their blood.. Use your clever brain and think..how on earth..as human being is willing to do what israel did to the children, woman,old people and civilian of Palestine people? And they is no justification to justify their action..children don’t launch rocket to Israel..And why Hamas launch rocket to Iarael..because Israel confisticated their land..Please answer this question, what will you do if me (artkawi) take you land, destroy everything that you have? Answer me the best answer you can give.
And you want my suggestion to end this violence…This is my simple suggestion that 5 years old boy can give : 1. Israel get out from land of Palestine. No more Israel country on the Arab Land..Go to USA and ask their land and name country of USA Israel 2. Bring all the criminal war to the justice. Than we will have no war…
The Israel Palestine issue will continue till the end of the world..the reason is so simple..Israel confisticated Palestine’s land and kill palestine people..and they have to pay back have they have done to Palestine..
Salam Ayahanda Tun. Thought I share the cutting below with everyone here. Congratulation to Datuk Seri Najib for making the right call and setting the game straight. Less talk, less beating around the bush and straight to the point. And I am sure many of us here are happy with that decision – just like Tony Fernandez himself. Well done to Datuk Seri Najib.
2009/01/30 NST Online.
Labu airport is as good as off
By : Hamidah Atan & Regina Lee
PUTRAJAYA, Fri:
The proposed new airport in Labu by AirAsia Berhad is as good as off. The decision was conveyed to AirAsia executives when they met the Deputy Prime Minister this afternoon. A source said the Government felt that AirAsia would not be able to raise the funds to develop the new airport.
Instead, Malaysia Airports Holding Berhad will build a new terminal near the Kuala Lumpur International Airport where they will work closely with AirAsia, a source said. AirAsia
We are always being reminded that the land of Israel has been promised by God. We are also being reminded of the injustices of Nazis towards the Jews in World War 2.
However since the time of the prophets, we could see how the Jews mistreated their prophets. How many prophets of Jewish descend have been degraded by the Jews themselves. The Jews have actually lost the rights to the land that they called theirs.
Now if we care to look at the current global economic crisis, we are still being made to pay for the mistakes of the unfair global financial system created by the West through the influence of the Jews.
Dearest Tun,
I was totally surprised that the US who claims to ‘champion’ values like humanity and freedom could not even make a short comment or admit that Israel has gone too far when it ‘tried to disable the Hamas from firing qassam rockets’.
I was hoping that one of the ‘Change’ Barack would do is to do what the leadership before has failed to do – speaking their minds out about Israel. Putting religion, history and race beside, any normal person would AT LEAST know that the death of thousands of innocent civilian is no ‘collateral damage’, especially when it wasn’t even a war, just an ‘operation’. The whole world leaders can see that this is totally absurd (except for Israel allies like the US).
I wished that the new President of the U.S. would be able to speak his mind out about this. To a citizen like me, it would look easy, but it’s a big thing in terms of international diplomacy, where a small comment like that could affect and change the whole diplomatic ties between the two countries and everything else. But if he could really pull that off, the world would then have some hope that change is really in the way. Or else people will be fast to conclude that the US is seriously powerless under the control of the Israel leaders.
p/s – Tun, you’re one of the few leaders who could really speak their mind out. I wish you the very best in your struggle.
Salam Tun,
I would compare you at par with Erdogan the Davos Conqueror. The Moslem world is lacking of strong leaders that have the balls to speak up for the Palestinians’ or Moslems ‘ causes in international arena. Keep it up, you never bore me with your thoughts.
Salam Tun,
I really admire your courage and conviction in standing up for what’s right. You are truly one of the very few who dares to speak the truth and at the same time you are willing to take any type of criticism directed towards you. Recently, I learned about Tony Benn, the president of Stop the War coalition and he was also a former member of parliament of England. If you and Mr.Benn could come together and speak about the brutalities of the Zionists against the Palestinians on the world stage, I bet the both of you could grab some really really big and much needed attention from the rest of the world.
Saya doakan kesihatan yang berpanjangan untuk Tun dan keluarga.
Salam Tun.
Alhamdullilah, at least some people are gutsy enough to admit they use israeli products, and well… Allah gave Israelis the brains to give good to the world, as the Chosen One…yet they forgot that the Lud were also destroyed because of the misuse of their own brains…
Tun, Even as you are retired, I still salute that you and the Opposition (*unfortunately so) are crusading for peace and better lives, not with terror and what not.
And I am gob smacked you took the time to read your readers comments. I wish you Good Health my dear… as how real Malaysians regard you as how the North Koreans to Kim Jong Il.
We can take the small step by not giving them profits,by not paying for Windows and Not using INTEL.
Salam and Selamat Hari Wilayah
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Salam
I want comment what nemesis said regarding atom bombs;
You agreed that, WE/YOU can create or do it ANYTHING/EVERYTHING because to WIN what WE/YOU believes it RIGHT??. So can I assumed you agreed what Hitler do it for the Jews that time because Hitler and their allied BELIEVED they RIGHT ??
What I Confirm my Holy Book (Al-Quran) not permitted to do it. We have the LAW and procedure. For example if the enemy hide in the church/religious home, we cannot shoot or ambush them.
Saya bersetuju dengan pandangan Tun.
Seorang kawan dari bangsa cina telah menghantar email kepada saya, apa yang berlaku di Gaza adalah kerana orang disana adalah “Tidak Berilmu”. Secara peribadinya saya amat bersetuju. Ilmulah yang akan menaikan darjat sesuatu bangsa..apa kata pemuda kita..boleh jenguk
http://youthsays.com/go/2Fp
pandangan remaja malaysia..
Hidup Tun
tun….teruskan bersuara demi keamanan…..ur my true hero….semoga sihat dan dipanjangkan usia…hidup TUNNNN!!!!!
Salam Tun,
Every excellence response to Hanan
Perang besar sudah tidak dapat dielakkan lagi di bumi Palestin. Dan perang itu nanti bukan hanya melibatkan arab sahaja, malah seluruh umat islam dunia. Hanya itu saja jalan untuk menguburkan keangkuhan Israel terus di muka bumi ini. Berapa lama lagi perlu menunggu? Pada saya, sudah tiada masa untuk memboikot & mengejar kemajuan dunia. Sepatutnya dahulu lagi umat islam mempertahankan empayar & mengukuhkan kekuatannya. Tapi semua sudah terlambat. Rasanya, sementara kita sibuk menunggu & melihat, tidak mustahil Iran & Syria pula yang terkorban. & tak mustahil Palestin akan terus lenyap di muka bumi ini dek lambatnya umat islam bertindak.
Tidakkah kita berasa malu tinggal di zaman yang penuh dengan sifat bakhil & banyak angan angan???
Tidakkah kita berasa malu tinggal di zaman umat islam yang seolah olah seperti daging busuk tidak ditutup & dikerumuni oleh anjing-anjing???
To priss01; 28Jan 2009 11.21 pm;
You wrote with no facts. Just simply like to write. Well, maybe its good also if Japanese won the WW2 and rules Malaya. There will no chinese in Malaya. No communist terrorists and no kampung baru equipped with the water and electricity supplies and good roads opened specialy for the chineses given by the british. The Malays shall live in peace with no pigs and dogs arounds..
Another thing, we are not illogical Dr.M hardcore supporter. We wrote what is true.
Aah.. maybe I shouldnt layan you.
What should us put into our heart? Love or hatred?
Dearest Tun, harap Tun dlm keadaan sihat walafiaat. Saya sangat prihatin tentang perkembangan politik di Malaysia. Nampaknya pihak pembangkang tak putus2 cari peluang menghentam kerajaan. Baru2 ini kes Kugan mati di dlm lokap. Apalagi, mereka terus menghentam kerajaan dan pihak polis. Satu lawyer yg berbangsa India(di you tube)tu membesar-besarkan luka yg terdapat di badan Kugan. Katanya di seluruh inci mayat Kugan ada kesan dera. Mereka kata nak tolong komuniti India mereka. Tapi saja cari kesempatan membangkitkan kemarahan org ramai. Mereka apa peduli. Dapat peluang saja, hentam kerajaan. Konon mereka lebih baik mentakbir negara. Satu lagi Tun, tolong selesaikan masalah mempelajari matapelajaran Sains dari darjah satu dlm bahasa Inggeris. Ini kerana ramai org menghentam Tun n kerajaan. Kononnya Tun n kerajaan tak menghormati bahasa Melayu. Walaupun tujuaannya baik, tapi saya raya di peringkat darjah satu, terlalu awal utk mempelajari Sains dlm bahasa Inggeris. Tun pun tahu, ramai org Melayu tak bertutur bahasa Inggeris di rumah, jadi anak2 mereka yg masuk sekolah dari darjah satu terkial-kial utk mempelajari bahasa Inggeris. Di Singapura, pd peringkat darjah satu dan dua, murid2 cuma mempelajari 3 subjek iaitu bahasa Inggeris, Matematik dan bahasa ibunda(spt bahasa Melayu, Cina dan Tamil). Subjek Sain hanya dikenalkan dari peringkat darjah tiga. Jadi saya harap, subjek Sains tak diajar di sekolah2 nasional pd peringkat darjah satu dan dua. Ia boleh diajar dari peringkat darjah tiga ke atas. Setelah 2 thn mereka mempelajari bahasa Inggeris, barulah mereka akan lebih bersedia mempelajari subjek Sains dari darjah tiga dlm bahasa Inggeris. Polisi subjek Sains diajar dlm bahasa Inggeris dari darjah satu telah banyak digunakan oleh pembangkang utk menghentam Tun dan kerajaan. Jangan beri mereka(pembangkang) banyak peluang menentang kerajaan. Sesungguhnya pihak pembangkang tak ada banyak isu atau idea. Mereka pandai bersorak dan mempermainkan kata2 serta mengapi-apikan rakyat supaya menentang kerajaan. Sekian. SEmoga UMNO n BN akan pulih setelah Pak Lah berundur. Lepas tu Pak Lah boleh teruskan hobinya iaitu tiur dan terus tidur….. LAH.
hanaaannnn..come out come out wherever you are….
HANAN !!
VERY SIMPLE,
1300 PALESTINE CITIZENS KILLED. ISRAELIS ONLY 13 I REPEAT ONLY 13
HOW MANY THOUSANDS PALESTINE INJURED ? MORE THAN 5,000. ISRAEL NONE.
WHY?
ISRAEL ALWAYS CLAIMED I REPEAT ISRAEL ALWAYS CLAIMED HAMAS ROCKETS WERE FIRED INTO YOUR LAND. HOW MANY OF THESE ROCKETS HAD BEEN HIT THEIR TARGETS. VERY VERY MINIMAL.
DON’T YOU KNOW THAT THESE ROCKETS WERE FIRED BY YOUR OWN PEOPLE SO HAMAS WILL BECOME THE SCAPEGOAT.HAMAS MILITANTS NOT STUPID BY FIRING ALL THESE ROCKETS AND ISRAEL WILL SENT DOZENS OF YOUR FIGHTER PLANES TO BOMB GAZA. HAMAS KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES IF THEY REALLY FIRED THESE ROCKERS OR WE CAN SAY FIRECRAKERS INTO YOUR LAND.
THOSE DAYS YOU PEOPLE CAN CREATE STORIES BUT OUR TUN MAHATHIR HAD TRAINED US TO BE SMART AND TO USE OUR BRAINS AND HEARTS FOR THE GOOD OF OURSELVES AND OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PLANET.
SOON OR LATER ALLAH WILL BALANCE THIS TRAGEDY AND LET US TOGETHER WITNESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
TODAY ALL OF US WATCHED THE TV NEWS THE TURKEY PM LEFT THE STAGE DURING WEF CONFERENCE. WHAT A SPEECH BY YOUR PRESIDENT WHEN HE EXPLAINED WHY ISRAEL HAD TO ATTACK GAZA. SILLY EXPLANATION.
You may want to see this Dr M.
Mark Regev or Mark Freiberg statements.
Israel admits: “No Hamas rockets were fired during ceasefire”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfFMZ7Y-s_c
Shaf
Hanan,
You and jews(laknatullah) offence said that jewish(laknatullah) is innocent/good such the jews was not have any mistake. It’s no a new thing. Everything is wrong except jew(laknatullah)
Jewish commits since from your prophet time, jews(laknatullah) are big liar race, killing woman , and children not forget your prophets too.
Europe’s People also said the same thing (1500 1940), because of your big liar, you should not have any land in the world. Your conquer all media to be save your act(best actor). Create propaganda to save your act(911 and holoust). Israel kill more that 20,000 Palestinian (I thing more than million), so what can you said??how about Sabra and Shatila massacre??your said 328 to 3,500 people was died, but the JEWS change the fact, FOR WHAT????????BIG LIAR!!!! YOU ARE USING CEMICAL WEAPON, FOR WHAT????TO KILL CIVIL PEOPLE, AND TO DO ENTHIC CLEANSING?????BIG LIAR..
The Jews(laknatullah) often change your view that always to be safe your act. big liar.
Jews(laknatullah)is the main factor of unstable world. BIG LIAR, KILLER.
Sina
salam tun,
dear hanan, if u really have malaysian friends.. ask them what the meaning of this ‘ Berikan saya 5 bangsa/agama yang bangga dengan yahudi…’ 5 only.
not even one i think
My Title:”I only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us (the Jews)”…..SAID BY A DUMB JEW….WHAT HIS NAME?????
TUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!ASSALAMUALAIKUM….MAY ALLAH GIVE YOU GOOD HEALTH ….AMEENNN….
LET US LOOK BACK IN HISTORY ABOUT A RACE CALLED “JEW”…
1)The land called Israel that God would had given to them when they were been deprived and were slaves leaving Egypt was at the end not given to them because of their arrogantness and betrayal to GOD.
2)Their famous histories of killing the prophets and how they changed the books of God and making it their way.
3)When Prophet Musa (Moses) left the jew just for 2 weeks and they were against the words of teh prophet by worshipping cow.
From history indeed JEWS HAVE BRAINS BUT THEY ARE LIKE THE DEVILS…THEY WERE ONCE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD BUT TURN THEIR BACK FROM GOD JUST LIKE SATAN DID….WHERE SATAN WAS ONCE ANGEL OF GOD BUT BETRAYED GOD LIKE THE JEWS DID!!!!AND THATS WHY NO MATTER HOW CLEVER THEY ARE OR RICH OR PRETTY THEY WILL JUST HAVE THAT TINY SHITTY LANE CALLED ISRAEL WHICH DOES NOT HAVE EVEN A DROP OF OIL AND ON TOP OF THAT TO GAIN JUST A SO CALLED LAND!!!…THEY HAD TO KILL PEOPLE……
AND THATS HOW LOW AND DEGRADED THE JEWS ARE!!!BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN CURSED BY THEIR OWN GOD!!!….
AMEEEENNNNN FOR THAT!!!
Saya tertarik dgn komen Hanan tentang “History is stronger than any empire, leader or people”. Sebelum ini saya ada membicarakan tentang kepentingan sejarah kpd kemajuan masa depan. sains dan teknology juga terhasil dr kajian sejarah itu sdiri, utk memperbaiki kualiti kehidupan manusia. tp masih tak berupaya utk memperbaiki kualiti jiwa manusia yg semakin rakus dan tamak. sbb itu Rasulullah diutuskan utk mbimbing dan mjd panduan kpd manusia akhir zaman.
tp sejarah rasulullah juga telah membuktikan betapa bangsa yg kolot dan berpuak2 boleh bersatu membina tamadun yg cemerlang dan berjaya mghdapi bangsa bertamadun yg sudah lama wujud. kenapa kita tak belajar sejarah, ketika mana kita sibuk belajar sains dan teknologi kenapa kita lupakan sejarah. memang betul kata Hanan bhwa sejarah lebih kuat dr mana2 empayar, pemimpin atau org. Sbbnya dia seorang yahudi, berpemikiran seorg bangsa yahudi dan kita tau bagaimana sejarah bangsa yahudi ini yg sememangnya byk berjaya dlm kehidupan dlm stiap zaman walaupun dgn cara yg jijik dan keji shhga sggup membunuh nabi krn menegur atau mempersoal cara mereka utk capai kemajuan.
bangsa yahudi dr dulu sampai skrg memang mau capai apa yg dikehendaki dgn jln yg mudah. dulu mereka pernah cuba nak pergunakan nabi misalnya nabi Musa utk capai apa yg dihajati, skrg mereka cuba pergunakan siapa yg berkuasa utk capai hajat mereka. hajat mereka skrg nak tubuh negara Israel di tanah Palestin krn sejarah mereka bermula dr situ, mereka pergunakan kuasa USA, kuasa wang dolar, kuasa lobi, kuasa minda utk bina teknologi, kuasa senjata yg mereka cipta dan apa2 kuasa yg mereka rasa boleh pergunakan utk capai hasrat mereka. smuanya mereka boleh pergunakan dgn mudah tanpa mereka perlu bersusah payah.
kenapa kita tak belajar sejarah, kenapa kita tak hayati dan fahami sejarah spya kita boleh belajar sesuatu yg baru yg boleh memperkuat dan memperkukuhkan kedudukan kita. kenapa kita tak ikut cara Salahudin al-ayubi yg mengiktiraf semua puak dgn melantik pemimpin setiap puak dlm angkatannya. kenapa kita perlu berparti, siapa yg menang dlm pilihanraya pemimpin dlm parti itulah jd pemimpin negara manakala pemimpin parti lawan gigit jari tggu peluang nak rampas kuasa melalui pilihnraya akn dtg. bknkah ini politik demokrasi pecah belah yg diperkenalkan oleh barat. kenapa kita perlu ikut cara mereka.
apa yg dikatakn hanan itu ada point yg kita tak boleh terima dan ada point yg kita boleh fikir-fikirkan apa maksudnya dan kenapa dia berkata begitu. dr situ kita boleh tau jiwa seorg yahudi dan cara berfikir seorg yahudi. mana yg baik kita ikut, mana yg buruk kita buang jauh2. jika kita tak belajar sejarah, kita MUDAH LUPA perjuangan kita, kita akan lupa siapa musuh kita dan tidak sedar akan apa yg diperlakukan oleh musuh kita. Kita tak tau apa yg kita buat yg kita sangka betul sebenarnya salah. tatkala kita terus bersengkata, musuh kita terus mengatur strategi utk terus memecahbelahkan kita dan memperkukuhkan lagi kekuatan mereka agar kita jauh ketinggalan. tp kita jgn lupa, Rasulullah telah membuktikan keupayaannya sbgai seorg pemimpin utk bangsa yg jauh ketinggalan. begitu juga salahudin al-ayubi telah membuktikan keupayaan kepimpinannya utk bangsa yg mulai berpecahbelah.
There are many postings here talking about Isreal’s brutalities and how it has conspired to take over the world and what’s not. But little was mentioned on the part of how HAMAS should have reacted to the continued economic strangulations by the Isrealis. Instead that direction, it chooses to break the 6 months’ truce with rockets flying over the fence, and later seeks the sympathies of the world for its actions and course. Why in the first place that HAMAS not resort to the UN, or the OIC for help to restrain such astrocities from the Isreali? Why didn’t it seeks the world’s attention on the little economic progress for its people for the past 6 months when it had a duece with Isreali? Anyone know what the HAMAS have done so far for its people since it was the elected Government of the day besides recruiting para militaries? The leader of HAMAS have not shown restrain, or seek to ask for ceasefire eventhough his people are being bombed, but instead chooses to be defiants to the last breath and using religion as a reason to fight on…well, it is easy for him to say so for a person who does not live in the Gaze himself, perhaps. Out of harms way. Using the poor innocent people as a cause to fight for. A sustainable collateral damage in the course to secure heavier support to his political career?
I am not for or against any party here. I am however against the very people who so call championed for the freedom of the people of Gaza. The fight is not for the country. Its for personal gain outright.
If not, why would most western and Arabs have discretely approved of the attack on HAMAS’s positions deep inside Gaza?
Like some of you have mentioned, HAMAS is terror group origin. They are a group of activist who believes that they are borned to fight the every aggression that come from the West. They know little of governing the country and helping its people to earn a living. They know more about weaponeries and warefare, than they know of the demand and supply forces of the market. Why not they learn? Whoever win or loose in this conflict, it is the people who are the real loser. Wake up and take the fighting elsewhere.
They are the champion of raking sympathies from the world.
Keruntuhan ekonomi dunia telah menyebabkan yahudi pening kepala.Untuk mendapat duit mereka telah melancarkan perang terhadap palestin untuk membangkitkan kemarahan negara islam dan seterusnya membeli senjata yang majoritinya dicipta oleh yahudi dan sekutunya. Ramai diantara kita hairan mengapa dunia Islam tidak campur tangan dalam perang hamas – Israel ini. Hamas menyatakan biarlah mereka saja yang berdepan dengan Israel dan menghalang Dunia Islam untuk campur tangan. Sebab yang dapat dilihat ialah ;
1. Memboikot senjata Yahudi
2. untuk mendapatkan simpati dunia dan memndedahkan kepada dunia warna zionis yang sebenarnya.
Yang D Hormati TUN
Kalau dia dapat pulau BP(Island) kita, dia takkan bagi balik, kalau dia dapat Air(Percuma) kita, dia tak an bagi balik, dan kalau dapat dapat Iskandar Malaysia, Adakah dia akan bagi balik ? sila jawab TUN ,
Dearest Tun,
First of all, I am against all forms of war. In fact, I hate war. Through war many innocents people would die. I am not pro Israel and I am not supporting the actions being carried out by hamas.
I need to know something, is Malaysian muslims supporting hamas? Hamas is a terrorist group. Why would malaysian muslims supporting hamas? For the war in Palestines, it was hamas that kept on sending the terrorist rockets into Israel. Even after Israel gave hamas stern warnings that action would be taken if hamas still sending the terrorist rockets into Israel, hamas ignored the warnings and increased the rockets lauching into Israel. What would a country do to protect its citizen? Of course Israel strike back thus receining a lot of critisicm from the muslim communities.
Hamas is using the people of Palentine as human shield. Is that okay? I don’t think so. Remember when hamas was attacking fatah? Is that okay too? For God sake, hamas is a terrorist group and using the Palestinians as their shield. I’m not saying that Israel is doing the right thing also. Israel is also guilty in this war. But what interest me the most is that mostly all Malaysian muslims are apparently supporting hamas the terrorist group.
We must help the people in Palestine. And not blindly spraying criticisms at the Israelis. I want to see peace in the region. And I believe everybody does too.
We should stop at the notion of boycotting whatever products that we believe coming from Israel. Why the United States of America get the blame? Does America involved in the war? What can we achieved from boycotting their products? Nothing to gain and everything to lose. Say for example we go and boycott KFC or COKE, these two products have to close down in Malaysia because they get no business here. What happen to the MALAYSIAN employees that are working for them? With the current economic downturn, who want to support their livehood? Hamas? I don’t think so.
The Arab nations must get rid of hamas from Palestine. The Arabs are the super rich bunch with their oil business. They must contribute more to help Palestine. The Arabs must do away with hamas ideology.
It was hamas that kept on tarnishing the good name of muslims. No religions encouraged their believers to kill to gain something. The jihad must be stopped. The suicide bombers (berani mati as called in Malaysia – to me it is not berani mati, tapi mati bodoh) must be stopped. This suicide bomber has been promised of many things (maybe MACC should look into it) including the passage to heaven. Are their families really been taken care for? Is there really a heaven? Anyone can proof this? Has anyone went to heaven and ccame back to tell the story? These people has been brain washed and certain truth has been kept hidden from them.
The hamas leaders has been hiding. This is typical of a terrorist. They strike and then go into hiding. Who suffers? The innocents people suffered! Osama went into hiding. Saddam Hussein went into hiding but fortunately he was found and hanged. Hamas has been using the people of Palestine for their cruel terrorist ideologist.
What is past let it be past. Do not digged out the past to create new conflict. We must see the future. Peace is the future. Not boycott.
Palestine and Israel must initiate peace talk. Any form of violence must be stop. This can be achieved if hamas is out of the pictures. As for us Malaysian, we must contribute to help the people of Palestine. And not to support the terrorist group hamas. I guess for those who support hamas, don’t just do the talking, go there and grab a gun and fight the Israelis. No point to talk and instigate other countries by boycotting and other means.
God Bless Malaysia.
Regards.
Tun,Kami sentiasa Tun.
http://www.globalmsia.com
boycotting is childish
To Dr Mahathir,
You have been and is a great leader/statesman of Malaysia….you will forever be loved by friends and admired by foes…
To Hanan,
The way the state of Israel was established in 1948,is to me improper and not done with mutual understanding of the majority Arab. To hastily develop a country while at the same time discounting the voices of the surrounding Arab world, lead to establishing a country that will forever be in friction with its neighbors. Through the United Nations and manipulation of politics/world economics, the Jews were able to establish a country at the expense of the Palestinian land. Be reminded there was no Israel before 1948 and many Jews were immigrants-survivors of the holocaust in Europe.The UN gave out a 2 state partition plan (which did not receive majority Arab’s agreement) and later Israel took more than what’s allocated. This is unacceptable greed. Israel is the only country in the world with no fixed borders, i.e expanding borders. Having Palestinians shooting rockets into the land that once was theirs to me is understandable, to me it looks like Israel is defending their illegal land (land taken without prior agreement with majority Arabs). As President Obama has pointed out, mutual respect and mutual interests. Without these elements Israel cannot exist in peace. Both Jews and Muslims have shared long history on the land and have rights, we should think out of the box and go for a single state where both Jews and Muslims can live together.The Romans banned Jews in the land, but under Muslim rule, the Jews were welcomed, protected and regarded ‘people of the book’. That treatment to Jews is ghastly opposite to the denial of killing more than 1,000 Palestinian including women and children under the hood of defense (defending people in robbed land?)of today. The Jews suffering and maltreatment via the holocaust does not mean that Jews have the right to steal Arab land and inflict suffering on Palestinians. Palestinians did not cause the holocaust. Why then are they punished like this? What Dr Mahathir was writing is expressing the shared disgust by many on the injustice of Israel over Palestine for past 60 years.
YABhg Tun,
Salam hormat.
Israel is HANAN….Heartless, Anarchic, Notorious and Arrogant Nation.
YABhg Tun,
Salam hormat.
Israel is HANAN….Heartless, Anarchic, Notorious and Arrogant Nation.
Tun,
Happy New Year
I like what you wrote and agreed with all the points you brought up but it takes two to tango and in many parts of the world including Malaysia, the weaker should
PADAN MUKA SI HANAN !!!
salam tun,
if the world is to follow the Zionist Jews twisted logic,then…
1.THE RED INDIANS SHOULD KILL THE WHITE PEOPLE AND RECLAIM AMERICA.
2.THE ABORIGINES WILL FOLLOW SUIT IN AUSTRALIA.
3.THE MAORIS IN NEW ZEALAND.
4.THE MEXICANS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CLAIM TEXAS AS IT WAS THEIRS AS RECENTLY AS 150 YEARS AGO ONLY!
5.THE ITALIANS SHOULD INVADE ENGLAND AS THE ROMANS RULED FOR SO LONG.
6.WHY,EVEN THE ARABS SHOULD RECLAIM SPAIN!
7.AND COME TO THINK OF IT,THE MONGOLS SHOULD RECLAIM THE WHOLE EURO-ASIA CONTINENT!
The Balfour Declaration was a convenient excuse achieved through trckery,manipulations,threats which the colonial powers were very good at.
It was the easiest way to rid Europe and America of the Jews at the time.
FYI quote..,
“There is one thing the Arab world simply cannot understand. Of all the nations of the earth, America is most insistent that something be done for these suffering Jews of Europe. This feeling does credit to the humanity for which America is famous, and to that glorious inscription on your Statue of Liberty.
And yet this same America
Tun,
Well said,
I hope Hanan eat his word,
U r brilliant as always…….
They r only two leaders capable of leading Malaysia…
U and DSAI……..
the Time when u Both r in Good terms r the best for Malaysia..
Dont Care What happen….
always Respect U guys…………
Salam Tun,
Mohon laluan.
By andi70 on January 28, 2009 6:14 PM
Salam Tun,
i read the article in boycott with interest later, after posting my previous comment. however, i think you need to correct the article title because you are supposed to comment to shalom, not hanan, which is a place ( http://www.fallingrain.com/world/IS/4/Tel_Hanan.html ) in israel.
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Shalom from Hanan, a Jew, Israel.
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need to correct it Tok Det, so that we do not become the laughing stock of shalom.
To andi70,
Shalom (Hebrew) means peace (used as a greeting or farewell)
To Hanan,
Please tell your leaders to
salam Tun,
to malaysiaku,
MY ANSWERS ARE IN CAPITAL LETTERS..
YOU SAID;
Please don’t twist and turn the whole histoty as you like.
The facts is Jews already live more than thousands of years in middle east before Islam came.I personally dont support Isreal or Hammas but I just want fair play for all.Please learn to say Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong no matter whoever did it.
Anyhow Our Police Force can and will match Isreal force at anytime or any place. Malaysia Boleh!
GO AND STUDY HISTORY BOY!AND CORRECT YOUR GRAMMAR AND SPELLINGS BEFORE TRYING TO GIVE ADVICE.
EXCERPTS FROM AN ARTICLE FOR REFERENCE / STARTING POINT BELOW;
If you suggest that I am biased, I invite you to read any sound history of the period and verify the facts.
Such fragmentary records as we have indicate that the Jews were wandering nomads from Iraq who moved to southern Turkey, came south to Palestine, stayed there a short time, and then passed to Egypt, where they remained about 400 years. About 1300 BC (according to your calendar) they left Egypt and gradually conquered most
Hanan, you’re reaching!Already afraid of the inevitable?
Yes, keep feeling big and great, who dares stops you?
While you at that…we will unite and grow.
Hanan’s bullets and bombs are the result of Hanan’s brain.Watching it falls and kills from a comfortable spot, must have jolted Hanan’s brain to great height FULLSTOP It didn’t get anywhere else because Hanan don’t have a heart.
Sure, Hanan has the brain.
But Hanan cannot feel fear, feel sad, feel happy, feel strong, feel angry etc etc etc.
Hanan only knows that feeling exist because Hanan brain’s tells Hanan that.
WE,.. have the brain and the HEART.
We feel fear, we feel sad, we feel happy, we feel strong, we feel angry etc etc etc.
Our religion,is Allah’s mandate.
To Hanan, its a tool.
Come on Muslimim and Muslimat – ENOUGH ,lets unite first.
Ada masanya anak saya takut masuk bilik – gelap. Dia tahu mentol tu elok sebab baru beli, sebenarnya wayar dan switch yang faulty.Jadi kami masuk sama-sama.Hebat, dalam gelap pun dia tahu mana dia simpan mainan dan mainan mana yang dia mahu.
Ketiadaan,kekurangan bukan halangan untuk dapatkan apa yang kita mahu.
Bersikap sederhana sebagai yang dituntut oleh ugama memberi ruang untuk kita berfikir dan bertindak, mudah-mudahan akan bawa kita ketahap jaya juga akhirnya.
Ada orang cepat ada orang lambat, tapi, kalau tak mahu, tak dapat langsung.
Mahulah untuk bersatu.Dan kita akan dapat ganjarannya.
Slowly but Surely.
Assalammualaikum Tun berdua semoga sentiasa diberkati dengan tahap kesihatan yang baik.
Dear Tun,
I mock the local politicians and media for kicking up such a fuss over the atrocities committed by Israel against the people of Gaza. While it is true that these heinous crimes are the most recent after the expiration of another
YAB Tun,
Assalamualaikum, Selamat Sejahtera and Selamat Pagi.
I read both Hanan’s first and second comments.
I could see that the first was posted by a Hanan that was ignorant of the intellectual thinking power of Malaysians as well as readers and commenters of Chedet.
Hanan’s second comment posted on Jan 28, 5.39 pm was somewhat very subdued. May be he just realised that he was poking the hornet’s nest and before knowing it, he was stung from all directions.
I don’t think this Hanan guy is somebody who is highly learned nor educated. Otherwise he would not be so ignorant as reflected by the way he wrote in his first comment. His written English is no better as well. ( I don’t want to ‘reacted’ spontaneously and would appreciate your ‘patient’ to wait for it.(Jan 28, 5.39 pm) ( We all know that YAB Tun is a trained medical doctor but he doesn’t practise it any more).
Hoping that Tun would not be counting him as a ‘beast’ would be an understatement! If Tun wouldn’t, we would! Not just referring you as a ‘beast’ but a ‘monster’!
Hanan, what you wrote in your first comment has angered lots of Malaysian especially Muslims and you are now trying to backpadel your statement by admitting that it was your personal opinion and your view ‘reflects the majority of the Jews’. I challenge you to provide proof to your last statement by providing facts and figures to support your claim. Otherwise please do not make sweeping statements.
By the way Hanan, please don’t try to woo and befriend us because we do not want to be associated with ignorant, snobbish and arrogant Palestinian killers and sympathisers of killers of children, women and old folks.
P.S. YAB Tun, please do not layan this Hanan guy. Not worth your time and effort. Thank you.
Tun,
If we have 10 Tuns M, the Muslim World is a better place.I am proud of you Tun.
Ayahanda & Bonda,
Maaf ese nak cakap sikit.ese sebenarnya tak berapa setuju ayahanda layan cakap cakap orang yang tak berbudaya ni.
Kalau kek Pilah ni, orang macam tu kito kata ‘kurang ajar’.
Ramai yang ese nampak bersikap macam tu.Ese sangatlah TAK RELA Ayahanda dedahkan diri Ayahanda pada orang macam ni.Kita ada budaya kita.Bangsa lain ni, kurang faham pulak ese tentang macam mana dia berfikir.
Tapi sekali lagi ese nak bagitau ese 100% tak setuju bantai membantai secara keterlaluan terutama sekali pada pemimpin ese yang sangat berjasa pada bangsa ese.Diorang apa tau?Bukan pemimpin dia pun.Dia tak kenal ayahanda pun.Dia apa ada pasal.
Dan juga ese syak ada kemungkinan diorang ni pun actually bukan orang asing.Orang kita juga kot?
Aduh…Ayahanda, janganlah layan.Orang kampong kata mengabihkan boreh aja.Saja nak provoke.Belakang kita jangan jangan dia gelak aja nak tengok Ayahnada melatah ke tidak.Tolonglah Ayahanda jangan layan sebab most of them…not your level langsung!Tak berbaloi nak layan.
Tak payah siar apa saya kata ni.Sebab ese oran Melayu sama macam Ayahanda. Didikan yang saya terima dari tok nenek saya tak mengizinkan kita melawan dan mencerca orang yang lebih tua.Inikan pula pemimpin yang sangat berjasa.Saya sungguh tak rela.Tolonglah Ayahanda, saya sangat sedih orang buat Ayahanda saya tercinta macam ni.
Salam dari orang Pilah.(also orang Ansara also Franchisor Melayu)
Bravo Tun…
Another great response from you. To Hanan, don`t mess up with our Tun.
Dearest Tun,
Re boycott America, my thoughts are, if America can be truthful to themselves as what President Obama mentioned that a lot of unduly payoff of bonuses to the big corporations, the bosses and employees, this is road to understanding the greed. The controlling America, the influential and the greedy people can then be identified. America can then learn to respect others within and outside America, without these bad influences. And for all we know, these are mainly under the influence of the Jews, not only for greed but looking for scapegoats amongst the Muslim world for whatever reasons. Rectify it can lead to prosperity to the rest of the world.
Dear President Obama, do check who these people are and follow up with the statements made.
Best Regards.
YABhg.Tun,
Amerika tu sampai kiamat pun tak akan berhenti menyokong dan melindungi israel walau siapa menjadi presidennya.
Saya anak Perak jati dan manusia yang paling saya tak suka pada waktu ini adalah ADUN Bota yang bertukar parti. Dia memang tidak ada maruah kerana mementingkan diri sendiri dan bukannya orang Melayu. Sekian.
Salam Tun,
Now let’s lean far back to recolloect one of the greatest historic event. The story of Umar Al-Khattab, the 2nd Khalifah of Islam was a story that must be treasured, both Muslim and the Jews, in particular, the liberation of Juresalem, by Umar. In that event,we could see thre greatest tolerance ever between jews and Moeslem. why? Because of the characted and the leadership of the Great Khalifah – in modern term – “walk the talk”. From that event we can also derived that the Jews are not only brainy, but actually the are people who already know the future of themselves and the world….So let’s read the story of Khalifah Umar and the libertaion of Juresalem, before we can discuss any further.
Salam Tun,
Now let’s lean far back to recolloect one of the greatest historic event. The story of Umar Al-Khattab, the 2nd Khalifah of Islam was a story that must be treasured, both Muslim and the Jews, in particular, the liberation of Juresalem, by Umar. In that event,we could see thre greatest tolerance ever between jews and Moeslem. why? Because of the characted and the leadership of the Great Khalifah – in modern term – “walk the talk”. From that event we can also derived that the Jews are not only brainy, but actually the are people who already know the future of themselves and the world….So let’s read the story of Khalifah Umar and the libertaion of Juresalem, before we can discuss any further.